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Goong S: Status Report

Although GOONG S hasn’t yet wrapped (they’ve aired 16 of 20 episodes), I figured I could weigh in now, since it’s nearly completed.

Goong S (aka Palace S) was possibly one of the most anticipated kdramas early this year, coming off the tremendous popularity of the original Goong. Unfortunately, it’s failed to live up to its hype, and is getting soundly thrashed in the ratings, although that isn’t necessarily a sole indicator of the show’s quality.

There’s the fact that the fan base of the show largely skews young, and in an extremely wired society, many of the fans are watching the show online rather than on television (MBC reports indicate that Goong S is their highest-watched show online, despite performing poorly in the regular ratings). There’s also the fact that its direct ratings competitors are doing extremely well, Surgeon Bong Dalhee, which is purported to be vaguely Grey’s Anatomy-like in nature, and Dal Ja’s Spring. I haven’t seen Surgeon Bong Dalhee because frankly, one Grey’s Anatomy is more than enough for me, but it’s supposedly a strong show, and I’m a huge fan of Dal Ja’s Spring, so there you go.

In any case, Goong S isn’t doing terribly well, which is a shame because it has all the elements for success: an appealing if inexperienced cast, a talented director (Hwang In Roi did Goong), beautiful sets and costumes, lovely music and scoring, and high production values.

And yet, it doesn’t manage to gel.

It has gotten better in the latter half, if you’ve bothered to stick around, though it’s understandable if you’ve bailed.

 

ACTING AND CASTING:

It seems the acting is the main area of criticism, given the very inexperienced young cast. Ironically, the biggest target of critique is also the most improved — SE7EN (aka Choi Dong-wook) started out over-the-top and exaggerated. To be fair to his acting choices, that was built into the character, given that Kang Hoo starts out happy-go-lucky and gradually becomes more solemn once he feels the weight of his royal obligations.

As he settled into his role, and as Hoo transitions from a trendy, energetic guy to solemn prince, Se7en’s performance has become more thoughtful. He still has a long (long, long) way to go as an actor, but given the tremendous expectations, the high profile of the project, and the fact that this is his debut acting role, he’s scraped through. (And I say this as someone who is neither a huge fan of the Goong franchise nor Se7en as a singer-performer.)

Having arrived at Episode 16, looking back on the earlier episodes, it’s surprising to see how his character has changed so much. And Se7en should get some credit for that; not so much in acting ability, but in screen presence.

HEO YI JAE is another newcomer, and although her inexperience is pretty obvious (she overdoes her reactions and gasps excessively), there’s something about her that can be charming. If you can get past the overacting.

She plays YANG SOON-YI, a palace attendant serving both princes, who becomes the object of affection for both. Somehow, the cliched setup doesn’t diminish my enjoyment of her relationship with Hoo, who happens to be her childhood classmate. However, I can’t bring myself to buy into Soon-yi’s attraction to Joon.

PARK SHIN HYE is a lovely girl whose age, I find, to be a detriment because there is no way to hide that a 16-year-old is trying to play the mature, conniving adult SHIN SAE-RYUNG. It’s like a little girl playing in mommy’s dress and heels. She’s improved a bit as the character warms, going from coldly ambitious to slightly vulnerable, and she does tend to do better playing the latter than the former.

KANG DOO, I find terribly miscast as the second prince, LEE JOON. It’s not that he’s interpreting the character wrong; it’s just that he holds no appeal as the cold, thoughtful second male lead. They’ve given him plenty of backstory to make him sympathetic (his father is overbearing; his mother is overbearing; he plays the guitar, ergo he is sensitive!). So I must conclude that the only mistake was that he was entirely miscast. Unfortunately, that one aspect nearly killed my interest in the series altogether, because a love triangle never works when you find one of the legs to be utterly preposterous.

 
But the biggest travesty comes with the casting of MARK JORDAN, a half-Korean German model who barely speaks English, and no Korean, in the series. If we are supposed to believe that his Professor Alex character is the Queen’s bygone boyfriend from their years together at Oxford, it’s ridiculous to have her speaking only in Korean, and him replying only in very bad English.

This is the Kim Samsoon curse, whereby apparently Koreans are so enamored of good-looking half-Korean men that all of a sudden they give them acting roles when they are clearly sadly undertrained and undertalented. It may have worked for Daniel Henney in My Name Is Kim Samsoon, but not here. I can’t bear to listen to the Queen-Alex conversations. If he’s not going to speak Korean anyway, they should have had him speaking his native German instead. Eek.

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SETS AND LOCATIONS:

The artistic design of the show continues to be among its strongest attributes. The lighting and angles are always meticulously prepared, and the shots always saturated in vivid colors. Bravo.

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(Palace halls)

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(Chamber of the Executive Council of Parliament)

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(Prince’s quarters)

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(Bottlecap cafe)

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COSTUMING:

Another strong plus. One of the more interesting scenarios raised by Goong and Goong S is the juxtaposition of the traditional and the modern — both in philosophy and in aesthetic. The costuming raises this point marvelously.

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(Princes’ royal uniforms)

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(They’ve done a pretty good job designing around the constraints of the traditional male hanbok, which I’ve always thought were bland and unexciting. I don’t know much about fashion, but I find the lines and silhouettes very modern and flattering. It’s nice that the men have as interesting wardrobe choices as women usually do, rather than simply being outfitted in suits all the time.)

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(The Palace maid costumes are smart and attractive; I covet their shoes, which I now realize aren’t visible in this pic.)

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(Palace maid lineup)

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(Because neither of the female leads are royalty, there is less female hanbok-based designing than there was in the original Goong, which is disappointing. Still, they manage to sneak in one or two designs here and there, such as this getup worn by a guest musical performing group.)

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STORY and PLOT:

Here’s where we start running into problems. It’s not that it’s a bad idea, because it’s in fact a great one. But somehow, it feels as though the writing and plotting had all the essential ingredients and were in the midst of cooking, but were taken out of the oven too early. So we can see the shape of what those ingredients were, and get an idea for what the intended final product was — and yet, what we have is a mushy, not-quite-cooked dish that falls somewhere in between.

The setup still works, as we introduce a young man raised as a commoner to the royal life that is his natural birthright. This immediately creates conflict, because if there’s something that tradition does not question, it’s bloodline and birthright. Thus Hoo’s entree into royalty is unquestioned; and yet, his initial incompatibility with royal life raises the issue of meritocracy: What constitutes a ruler, and what gives someone the right to lead an entire nation? Prince Joon has been groomed to succeed the Queen; should that fall by the wayside because someone appears with a closer blood tie to the throne, no matter if his qualifications are less than adequate?

Furthermore, the political intrigues provide an interesting philosophical backdrop, with royal elders, parliament representatives, the royal family, and the citizenry all vocal and divided in ideology as to how to handle this sudden discovery of Prince Hoo’s existence.

Throw in some romance, family dynamics, secret cover-ups and assassination attempts, and what we should have is a recipe for success.

But… not so much.

There are some nice moments. They are, unfortunately, too few and far between. It seems as if the writers got bogged down in the cliches of the genre, rather than just flying free with all the things that made this idea fresh and different. For instance —

Villains:

I think Goong S essentially suffers from a simplicity of conflict. There are two main threads of conflict — the political and the romantic — but both are terribly straightforward. On one hand, a man wants his son to succeed politically and will do everything to ensure that. On the other, two guys fight over a girl, as a second girl switches her mind back and forth between the two guys (probably ending up with neither).

HYO-JANG DAE-GONG, the Grand Prince who is Joon’s father, is entirely too one-dimensionally eeeeevil. While there are benefits to having an obvious bad guy, our hero’s challenges need not be limited to that one person. It would have been so much more interesting if the fight for the crown was layered in struggle — outward struggle between the Princes, inward struggle with themselves — but with the Hyo-jang puppeteering everything to his evil machinations, the conflict becomes predictable, tedious.

Plus, how is he doing everything to undermine the royal family without the Queen knowing? In Goong, the exiled Queen’s maneuverings were believable because there was an old loyalty to her among those who believe she was wrongly cast out of the Palace. They are willing to serve her to right an old wrong. In Goong S, however, Hyo-jang is the one attempting to corrupt the order of things; how is he so powerful?

Romance:

Naturally, I’m rooting for the two leads (Hoo and Soon-yi) to end up together, as they inevitably will, but the best kdramas know how to make full use of their relationship geometry, using their second leads well. In order for the central relationship to successfully pay off in the end, we have to believe their struggle to get to their end point was real and earned. Otherwise, all of the conflict keeping them apart seems cheap and easy.

So I’m of two minds of the relationship pairings: I’m onboard with the main couple, but find the side relationships so lacking it’s ridiculous. In the beginning, Sae-ryung and Joon are together in a political arrangement devoid of emotion, so we don’t care when that relationship gets broken up.

Starting in the second half of the series, Sae-ryung and Joon seem to genuinely develop feelings for Hoo and Soon-yi, respectively, which is a nice turn of events because it humanizes all four characters and crystallizes their dilemmas: Duty or affection? Ambition or emotion?

But almost immediately, when Hoo and Soon-yi’s relationship blossoms in Episode 16, Sae-ryung and Joon revert right back to how they were before, and their brief vulnerability hardens. Well, they were interesting for a second.

 

(Spurned second leads: Like they even had a shot.)

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Unlike with the failed characterizations of Sae-ryung and Joon, it’s much easier to buy the development between Hoo and Soon-yi because their relationship is much more grounded.

In the early episodes, it seemed that Soon-yi and Hoo were both channeling the same personality, which created a dynamic that was interesting and weird at the same time. (They were both the klutzy, energetic, lively characters like Chae-kyung of the original Goong.) Furthermore, they grew up together, and despite their disparity in rank now, they have a familiarity and a shared history. It’s hinted that Hoo had boyhood feelings for the younger Soon-yi, since he went out of his way to torment her, and is still unable to tell her that he’s the one who gave her a secret gift back in the sixth grade gift exchange.

They talk to each other using familiar speech (banmal), and they come from the same world. Perhaps most significantly, Soon-yi is the only person who knew Hoo’s mother as he knew her: kind, gentle, caring. Hoo’s mission to become Crown Prince is driven by his love and loyalty to his mother, and it’s fitting that only Soon-yi can understand his need to clear her name, at the cost of anything else.

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Hoo’s filial loyalty is a nice motivator for him, and has really turned him into a focused, serious adult over the course of the series. It’s a welcome facet of his character to have someone motivated by much more than material success or romantic desire.

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As the series has progressed, Soon-yi and Hoo both become more serious and mature, again developing on a parallel track. It’s a different approach from the norm; kdramas tend to throw opposites together. But instead, these two are of the same kind in a Palace that, while being home to them both, regards them as outsiders.

Thus their relationship is rooted in something deeper than others suspect on the surface, but it remains believable. I found it particularly significant when Hoo sacrifices his mother’s ring to save Soon-yi’s job, although it puts his own position in jeopardy.

When Joon tells Soon-yi about Hoo giving up his ring for her, you can sense Joon’s shock at the magnitude of Hoo’s self-sacrifice, and his disappointment in himself because he knows that he would not have been able to do the same. So there’s an underlying admiration for his rival, even as his own ambition for the girl is brimming over. That was a nicely handled moment.

In return, in Episode 12, Soon-yi sacrifices her own future at the Palace to return Hoo’s ring to him.

I wish the series had managed to explore more of their perceived rank differences, because there seems to be a whole area of unmined conflict there. Instead, we got a bunch of lame love triangle manipulation, which, because I don’t buy either of the second leads, feels empty and cliched.

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OVERALL:

With two weeks left, I know now that Goong S isn’t going to be the show I’d hoped it would be, not close. Still, it became a more enjoyable show once I dropped my initial expectation over what the show woulda-coulda-shoulda been, although that line of thinking still drives me up a wall because this drama should have been better! But part of that effort is distancing oneself from the automatic comparison to its predecessor, Goong, even though I know I made mention of it several times. The comparison is natural; but I think the show is much better when viewed on its own terms.

I’m pretty confident the romantic resolution will be wrapped up adequately; I just hope the payoff with the royal succession is, too. And while I’m drawing up a wish list, I’d like to request more time with Hoo’s buddies, because they’re funny, and Hoo seems relaxed and comfortable around them in a way that he hasn’t been in a while.

And, as soon as the fansubbing group I’m working with can finish up translating the series, perhaps the series will get more recognition overseas. Despite all the flaws and weaknesses of Goong S (and there are many), I appreciate it for what it is, and enjoy the work that went into making it.

I’m normally pretty critical of my kdrama-watching, but for some reason, despite all the reasons I shouldn’t like Goong S, I can’t help but keep watching. Perhaps it has something to do with its strange distinction of having gone swiftly from surefire blockbuster hit to underdog. Or perhaps its biggest detractor (the acting) is also its charm. I guess something doesn’t have to be perfect to be apealing.

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I completely agree with everything you've said. With 20 episodes, it should have been more than enough to develop all of the potential plot threads and conflicts creating a thoroughly unique and interesting show. I mean, do we need to focus so much on the love quadrat in every single k-drama? Even in doing so, I'm sure one way they could have made it more interesting was to make it a little less clear that the two leads were going to get together. I mean, we know they are, but to have some *real* and conflicting feelings brewing between main leads and the second leads might have been interesting, enough to amp up the conflict a little more. There's just so much more the show could have done, I would have liked if they cut the entire Queen/Alex (shudder), which I ALWAYS skip, to fit in more important and potentially interesting scenes. But oh well.

All in all it's still a good drama that I'm enjoying so far.

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As of now, in the philippines, we are still on Goong (princess hours) but I'm done watching it thanks to internet. I was looking for the next sequel of goong when I encountered goong and goongS website and learned that goong S is somewhat related to the first sequel. at first i didnt liked the idea of having different actors and actresses but I was more curious about the comments that i read. most of it were harsh which leads me watching it. and I agree with what you wrote on Episode 20, i myself dont know seven but he was able to give justice to the character. same goes with the other actors and actreses. all of them were great!
as for you, I really envy you that you were able to create this beautiful website! Thank you!

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goong is, i think, at its last week in the philippines. and like cel, i heard rumors about the sequel and youtube gave me goong s.

i was thrilled to find out that se7en plays the main role, and to think that it's his first try in the acting business. i first knew him as the performer, along with the very famous ones --- rain and boA --- and have heard that he too is joining the koreanwave fever not primarily for his looks (he's just cute, unlike gorgeous and sexy bi), but for his music and dancing. and i loved him since then.

the acting was commendable for a first timer.

i definitely did not enjoy kang doo! research showed that he's one of the earlier kpop stars, and i honestly believe that he rather belongs to that earlier days. he was too old and ehe-ugly for the role. and i never liked his eyes. acting-wise, he was...say...ok (i guess...poor him).

yang soon-yi. another cute face for my computer! she's okay.

sae-ryung. boy, did i hate her! hehe...she's that good. and for a 16-year old, her acting was praiseworthy.

i can't help but compare this series to goong (which was dramatically hilarious and had the better soundtrack), but i think the series is all-in-all okay. hey, i love koreanovelas (term used here in the philippines)!

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hope that there willbe a dvd already 'cause it's sooo tiring to always download in the web and it takes time though...

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Well... I think your critics are great! although I wish you would praise most of the elements... hihi.. because I am a huge fan of goong s. But yeah, I know nothing is perfect, right...

Don't know why, but I found the story since the beginning so fresh, different, n unique... i love it... so when u are already in love with it, u don't care about its weaknesses..hihi....

I agree about alex n queen. They should talk in one language... it's so weird, one talking korea, the other talking english. but, i like them though, i was kind of waiting for their meeting n conversation no matter what... :)

About the side or second pair (sae ryung n joon), yeah I don't really like them esp. park shin hye (she should not act as an antagonist, doesn't suit her), but I guess their character is fair. What I mean is that they don't overeact n do act sensibly... not like other k drama type, whose second leads/pair are so annoying... yes, annoying... most of them are in a half or full comedy situation (including goong n full house, sorry, no offence)... but this goong s second leads are natural n mature... like... that they are supposed to be!

Overall, I agree with you about music (which I found great too, like goong), costumes, cinematography (lighting n angle), n cast (esp, seven n heo yi jae -- somehow, somewhat I found them interesting too, no matter of their lack acting).

Finally, one thing I really want to tell you all, that I guess without se7en, there aren't millions of goong s fans out there overseas who probably just know him in goong s... And as for me, I really really enjoy watching it, n goong s is probably the best k drama I ever watched! (n there are so many i tell u!) I can't believe it, but that's the fact.... aja goong s.... long live Prince Hoo....

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goong s with subs was still incomplete at youtube.. while in veoh.. it's already complete but its hard to donwload all episodes.. ='( although i've watch the first 5 episodes of this kdrama, i'm still looking foward for ep6 and up to have subs.. ='( anyways, javabeans. thanks for this.. =)

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haha i was drawn to the show too, though you rightly pointed out that there are many reasons to be critical and not to like it. It is indeed a charming show. Especially towards the end when Hoo portrayed his maturing with a lot of charisma, even though i wasn't a fan of seven to start with. Soon yi was pleasant, and her acting did improve, and most importantly of all, she had remarkable chemistry with Hoo! The love between them was portrayed very naturally and Hoo was soooo caring. It's hard not to go gaga over the two on screen. Thanks for the nice analysis, i love reading about what people think about shows(:

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please upload the review of goong..(palace).. :)

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Well.. As I watched Princess Hours way back 2007 I just watched Goong S this 2014 month of July..

I haven't expected that this was a sequel of Goong, but when i see the set, production designs and the medium i thinks first that the director was the same.

For the character since most of them were first timer its a great experience for this project but on the other side the shifting of the characters were to drastic...i mean to say because it was a sudden shifting. But for Se7en he pull it of but I believe he has still a room for improvements and I wanna know if he's still do acting right now.. And same with the other cast. I can see that Park Shin She character Sae-ryung she improves so much as of now.. I came to think that korea have so many actor and actresses but i comment the korean talented writers and director.. I hope here the Philippines they create same kind of story here...

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