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		<title>By: hjk</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/11/open-thread-4/comment-page-1/#comment-10870</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 22:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve been so busy watching kdramas, that I feel guilty for neglecting all my &quot;to be read soon&quot; books sitting on my shelf.  Let me just say that I loved Matthew MacFadyen in P&amp;P.  I think he fit the role of Darcy and the overall production style very well (loved that single camera span, too).  He even surpassed Colin Firth (my favorite Darcy until then) in my book, keeping in mind that the movie and mini-series are two totally different styles, and each have their own pros and cons.  He is such a fantastic actor (MI-5/Spooks), and I can&#039;t wait to watch Death at a Funeral (with wife Keeley Hawes, another one of my favs - Under the Greenwood Tree, MacBeth-Shakespeare ReTold).  I also loved Tom Hollander as Mr. Collins.  His body language alone made me laugh out loud a couple of times.

I also like Elizabeth Gaskell&#039;s novels, but I prefer BBC productions.  Wives and Daughters is a must-see (Keeley Hawes, Justine Waddell, Anthony Howell, and Tom Hollander), but my ultimate favorite is North &amp; South.  I rank it right up there with P&amp;P.  Richard Armitage really brought out Thornton character (much more than the novel).  I must have watched over half a dozen times.  Too bad he plays the villan in Robin Hood.  I haven&#039;t read any Trollope yet, but after watching so many BBC productions, I guess I should give it a try (after I catch up on all my kdramas).  Haha.

ellerdnic - I also love reading Phillippa Gregory, one of my favorite historical fiction authors.  I hear they&#039;re making a new movie version of The Other Boleyn Girl.

My all-time favorite British comedy is Coupling.  I can&#039;t even count the number of times I laughed-so-hard-till-my-belly-ached/almost-spit-out-my-food while watching.  Why can&#039;t American TV ever be that funny?  Oh yeah, first there need to be better American actors.  What was with the HORRIBLE casting in the US version?

I&#039;ve never watched any daily kdramas before, but AZN started playing Here Comes Ajumma recently.  At first, I couldn&#039;t really get into it, but given there wasn&#039;t much else to watch, I gave it a try.  The first twenty or so episodes weren&#039;t too exciting, but then I found more episodes on veoh &amp; now I&#039;m hooked. Why can&#039;t we get KBS America in N.Cal?</description>
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<p>I&#8217;ve been so busy watching kdramas, that I feel guilty for neglecting all my &#8220;to be read soon&#8221; books sitting on my shelf.  Let me just say that I loved Matthew MacFadyen in P&amp;P.  I think he fit the role of Darcy and the overall production style very well (loved that single camera span, too).  He even surpassed Colin Firth (my favorite Darcy until then) in my book, keeping in mind that the movie and mini-series are two totally different styles, and each have their own pros and cons.  He is such a fantastic actor (MI-5/Spooks), and I can&#8217;t wait to watch Death at a Funeral (with wife Keeley Hawes, another one of my favs &#8211; Under the Greenwood Tree, MacBeth-Shakespeare ReTold).  I also loved Tom Hollander as Mr. Collins.  His body language alone made me laugh out loud a couple of times.</p>
<p>I also like Elizabeth Gaskell&#8217;s novels, but I prefer BBC productions.  Wives and Daughters is a must-see (Keeley Hawes, Justine Waddell, Anthony Howell, and Tom Hollander), but my ultimate favorite is North &amp; South.  I rank it right up there with P&amp;P.  Richard Armitage really brought out Thornton character (much more than the novel).  I must have watched over half a dozen times.  Too bad he plays the villan in Robin Hood.  I haven&#8217;t read any Trollope yet, but after watching so many BBC productions, I guess I should give it a try (after I catch up on all my kdramas).  Haha.</p>
<p>ellerdnic &#8211; I also love reading Phillippa Gregory, one of my favorite historical fiction authors.  I hear they&#8217;re making a new movie version of The Other Boleyn Girl.</p>
<p>My all-time favorite British comedy is Coupling.  I can&#8217;t even count the number of times I laughed-so-hard-till-my-belly-ached/almost-spit-out-my-food while watching.  Why can&#8217;t American TV ever be that funny?  Oh yeah, first there need to be better American actors.  What was with the HORRIBLE casting in the US version?</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never watched any daily kdramas before, but AZN started playing Here Comes Ajumma recently.  At first, I couldn&#8217;t really get into it, but given there wasn&#8217;t much else to watch, I gave it a try.  The first twenty or so episodes weren&#8217;t too exciting, but then I found more episodes on veoh &amp; now I&#8217;m hooked. Why can&#8217;t we get KBS America in N.Cal?</p>
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		<title>By: ellerdnic</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Marzy I saw Becoming Jane and it&#039;s okay...I guess I&#039;m just a sucker for happy endings and that ruined the movie for me.(oopps! too much info?)</description>
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<p>Marzy I saw Becoming Jane and it&#8217;s okay&#8230;I guess I&#8217;m just a sucker for happy endings and that ruined the movie for me.(oopps! too much info?)</p>
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		<title>By: ellerdnic</title>
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		<dc:creator>ellerdnic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 07:48:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can&#039;t believe that a lot of people like Pride and Prejudice as well! I was so excited when they started showing the trailer and LOVED it as soon as I saw it in the theatre. Matthew McFadyen is the ULTIMATE Mr. Darcy for me. I disagree with Da Vinci Code though. I thought it was really interesting when I first read it but its popularity kind of ruined it for me. A lot of similar books came out and in the end I kind of got sick of it.
As for good books right now, I like the Devil and Miss Prym by Coelho and I heard Middlesex and Kiterunner is really good. I am reading The other Boleyn Girl which is a cross between history and drama. I just thought it interesting that King Henry VIII took an interest to Anne Boleyn&#039;s sister first before he married her. Anyway, it&#039;s pretty good so far.
On a different note, I can relate to being drawn to watching Gossip Girl despite its &quot;Mean Girls&quot; tendencies. The actresses that play Serena and Blair are really not that credible as high school students. They look more like working girls but I am really drawn to the lifestyle of the rich and famous...not to mention the things that they wear in the show! Wow! I&#039;d just have to say, I love Blair&#039;s fashion sense more than Serena&#039;s...</description>
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<p>I can&#8217;t believe that a lot of people like Pride and Prejudice as well! I was so excited when they started showing the trailer and LOVED it as soon as I saw it in the theatre. Matthew McFadyen is the ULTIMATE Mr. Darcy for me. I disagree with Da Vinci Code though. I thought it was really interesting when I first read it but its popularity kind of ruined it for me. A lot of similar books came out and in the end I kind of got sick of it.<br />
As for good books right now, I like the Devil and Miss Prym by Coelho and I heard Middlesex and Kiterunner is really good. I am reading The other Boleyn Girl which is a cross between history and drama. I just thought it interesting that King Henry VIII took an interest to Anne Boleyn&#8217;s sister first before he married her. Anyway, it&#8217;s pretty good so far.<br />
On a different note, I can relate to being drawn to watching Gossip Girl despite its &#8220;Mean Girls&#8221; tendencies. The actresses that play Serena and Blair are really not that credible as high school students. They look more like working girls but I am really drawn to the lifestyle of the rich and famous&#8230;not to mention the things that they wear in the show! Wow! I&#8217;d just have to say, I love Blair&#8217;s fashion sense more than Serena&#8217;s&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Marzy</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 04:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im loving your open threads sarah!! so insightful and its fun to read all the comments.im so glad there are more people who like austen, P&amp;P is one my faves.  ive had my share of people who cant enjoy it because of the baggage. but i find her writing really nice. i like bronte sisters works too. 
nice book suggestions. i must read again too. last book i read was time traveller&#039;s wife. i want to read this classis the other bolyn girl. its gonna be made into a movie.
anybody see becoming jane? what did u guys think? im waiting for it too come out here or borrow a dvd. 

btw, who wrote everything is illuminated?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>im loving your open threads sarah!! so insightful and its fun to read all the comments.im so glad there are more people who like austen, P&amp;P is one my faves.  ive had my share of people who cant enjoy it because of the baggage. but i find her writing really nice. i like bronte sisters works too.<br />
nice book suggestions. i must read again too. last book i read was time traveller&#8217;s wife. i want to read this classis the other bolyn girl. its gonna be made into a movie.<br />
anybody see becoming jane? what did u guys think? im waiting for it too come out here or borrow a dvd. </p>
<p>btw, who wrote everything is illuminated?</p>
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		<title>By: javabeans</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/11/open-thread-4/comment-page-1/#comment-10794</link>
		<dc:creator>javabeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 20:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;kotatsulove&lt;/strong&gt;, yes &lt;em&gt;Everything Is Illuminated&lt;/em&gt; was a novel before it was a film, and catapulted its author into literary stardom as being all sorts of wunderkind-y brilliant. (Naturally, it came with ensuing backlash.)

&lt;strong&gt;rai&lt;/strong&gt;, yes, I&#039;ve read &lt;em&gt;Norwegian Wood&lt;/em&gt;. You know, despite liking the book, it isn&#039;t my favorite because it&#039;s so different from his others. It&#039;s the least &quot;Murakami-esque&quot; in style yet it&#039;s one of the books he&#039;s most known for. He&#039;s been said to break from the rigidity of classical Japanese literature -- Kawabata, Mishima -- and while most of his works are wildly different from his predecessors, Norwegian Wood is the most simple and autobiographical. (Supposedly.) But it IS a beautiful book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>kotatsulove</strong>, yes <em>Everything Is Illuminated</em> was a novel before it was a film, and catapulted its author into literary stardom as being all sorts of wunderkind-y brilliant. (Naturally, it came with ensuing backlash.)</p>
<p><strong>rai</strong>, yes, I&#8217;ve read <em>Norwegian Wood</em>. You know, despite liking the book, it isn&#8217;t my favorite because it&#8217;s so different from his others. It&#8217;s the least &#8220;Murakami-esque&#8221; in style yet it&#8217;s one of the books he&#8217;s most known for. He&#8217;s been said to break from the rigidity of classical Japanese literature &#8212; Kawabata, Mishima &#8212; and while most of his works are wildly different from his predecessors, Norwegian Wood is the most simple and autobiographical. (Supposedly.) But it IS a beautiful book.</p>
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		<title>By: merriwether</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:19:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>docmitasha, I had a similar reaction to Emma. The first time I tried to read it, I gave up half way and then I picked it up again for school and after watching Clueless. Reading P &amp; P was what changed my mind about Jane Austen. Now I&#039;m slowly working my way through all her novels. 

blab, I think the cast you&#039;re referring to was Ang Lee&#039;s Sense and Sensibility?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>docmitasha, I had a similar reaction to Emma. The first time I tried to read it, I gave up half way and then I picked it up again for school and after watching Clueless. Reading P &amp; P was what changed my mind about Jane Austen. Now I&#8217;m slowly working my way through all her novels. </p>
<p>blab, I think the cast you&#8217;re referring to was Ang Lee&#8217;s Sense and Sensibility?</p>
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		<title>By: Tessa</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Omg. I really like that song. Thanks. You&#039;ve been doing a good job augmenting my music library with good taste.  

And uh, do you happen to remember any good bad novels to read?? I&#039;ve been having difficulty trying to find something quick to entertain me now that I have a lapse in school work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Omg. I really like that song. Thanks. You&#8217;ve been doing a good job augmenting my music library with good taste.  </p>
<p>And uh, do you happen to remember any good bad novels to read?? I&#8217;ve been having difficulty trying to find something quick to entertain me now that I have a lapse in school work.</p>
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		<title>By: docmitasha</title>
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		<dc:creator>docmitasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m completely devoted to british lit--enough to minor in it--and adore charles dickens, keats, eliot, the bronte sisters (ah, the beauty that is wuthering heights!) almost all the heroes of eng lit...excluding jane austen. I could never, ever stand her, and last year I decided maybe I was just unfairly biased because of the reason you described, and gave her another shot with Emma, and I think I read half of it but all the while wanting to strangle the main character, slam the book and never try again! I&#039;m not sure why i have such an intense adverse reaction to her writing...I actually do believe I&#039;m missing on something great, but I still can&#039;t make myself go through P&amp;P or S&amp;S! Its not the genre, I think, because on the other hand Louisa May Alcott is one of my favorite American authors, and her books trail the same paths often (in a very different style), its just something about the way the story runs and her characters in general....i know its a pity,  missing out on experiencing a literary genius. Maybe I&#039;ll give it one more shot one day....</description>
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<p>I&#8217;m completely devoted to british lit&#8211;enough to minor in it&#8211;and adore charles dickens, keats, eliot, the bronte sisters (ah, the beauty that is wuthering heights!) almost all the heroes of eng lit&#8230;excluding jane austen. I could never, ever stand her, and last year I decided maybe I was just unfairly biased because of the reason you described, and gave her another shot with Emma, and I think I read half of it but all the while wanting to strangle the main character, slam the book and never try again! I&#8217;m not sure why i have such an intense adverse reaction to her writing&#8230;I actually do believe I&#8217;m missing on something great, but I still can&#8217;t make myself go through P&#038;P or S&#038;S! Its not the genre, I think, because on the other hand Louisa May Alcott is one of my favorite American authors, and her books trail the same paths often (in a very different style), its just something about the way the story runs and her characters in general&#8230;.i know its a pity,  missing out on experiencing a literary genius. Maybe I&#8217;ll give it one more shot one day&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: blab</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 19:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>talking about Pride an Prejudice, i loved the other cast better with Emma Thompson, Hugh Grant, Kate Wintslet etc... This new cast was good, but Darcy didn&#039;t do it for me... I just couldn&#039;t buy it coming from him....oh well

Currently on my third episode of flowers for my life... liking the humor and the characters... Na Ha Na is crazy hilarious!! guys check it out, not only because javabeans said it was good, but because you get another person , ME, confirming it... ^_^

OMG!!! is this some sort of virtual telepathy or what?? me too i&#039;ve been wanting to read more...pilled up about 5 books on  my night table and getting ready to devoure them....&quot;Life of pi&quot; is right up there with &quot;A lesson before dying&quot;... both look interesting...

oh i love open threads!!! lol</description>
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<p>talking about Pride an Prejudice, i loved the other cast better with Emma Thompson, Hugh Grant, Kate Wintslet etc&#8230; This new cast was good, but Darcy didn&#8217;t do it for me&#8230; I just couldn&#8217;t buy it coming from him&#8230;.oh well</p>
<p>Currently on my third episode of flowers for my life&#8230; liking the humor and the characters&#8230; Na Ha Na is crazy hilarious!! guys check it out, not only because javabeans said it was good, but because you get another person , ME, confirming it&#8230; ^_^</p>
<p>OMG!!! is this some sort of virtual telepathy or what?? me too i&#8217;ve been wanting to read more&#8230;pilled up about 5 books on  my night table and getting ready to devoure them&#8230;.&#8221;Life of pi&#8221; is right up there with &#8220;A lesson before dying&#8221;&#8230; both look interesting&#8230;</p>
<p>oh i love open threads!!! lol</p>
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		<title>By: tooizzy</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 17:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I LOVE READING!! But my current addiction is drama right now. (^_^) I have tons of book at home that I haven&#039;t finished yet. My reading habits cover a whole range from &quot;Jewelry Making&quot; to &quot;Asian Calligraphy&quot; to &quot;Shonen Jump&quot; to history &quot;Washington&#039;s Crossing&quot; to fic &quot;A Wrinkle in Time.&quot; I&#039;ve loved Patricia Cornwell&#039;s series and there was a romance one about vampires called Carpathians to a depressing one called  &quot;Lovely Bones&quot; to &quot;Blink: The power of Thinking Without Thinking.&quot;  I don&#039;t particularly like horrors because my imagination is much worse than a movie.  I love any version of Jane Austens books. All of them are more conversation intensive than physically. I love the fact that it makes you think. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE READING!! But my current addiction is drama right now. (^_^) I have tons of book at home that I haven&#8217;t finished yet. My reading habits cover a whole range from &#8220;Jewelry Making&#8221; to &#8220;Asian Calligraphy&#8221; to &#8220;Shonen Jump&#8221; to history &#8220;Washington&#8217;s Crossing&#8221; to fic &#8220;A Wrinkle in Time.&#8221; I&#8217;ve loved Patricia Cornwell&#8217;s series and there was a romance one about vampires called Carpathians to a depressing one called  &#8220;Lovely Bones&#8221; to &#8220;Blink: The power of Thinking Without Thinking.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t particularly like horrors because my imagination is much worse than a movie.  I love any version of Jane Austens books. All of them are more conversation intensive than physically. I love the fact that it makes you think. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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