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	<description>Deconstructing korean dramas and kpop culture</description>
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		<title>By: Jin Yoo</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/01/theyre-a-list-for-a-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-18744</link>
		<dc:creator>Jin Yoo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 13:28:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh but A-List Stars like; Jang Dong Gun, Lee Byung Hyun, Jeon Ji Hyun, Lee Young Ae, Jeon Do Yeon all seemed to have &#039;embarassed&#039; themselves on variety shows back in the 90s, and maybe becoz they still are not too big then. Watching them back then, is really an embarassment~ They were dancing and doing silly stuffs too back then, but it was funny. I dont think they can ever do that again now since theyve been around the biz for long I think they really should be seen as Seniors or as Seonbaes to be looked up to. And knowing korean media/critiques nowadays if they go out in a variety/talk show there&#039;s a big chance some things they say may hurt / damage thier career one way or another.. and those stars are known not even in Asia but internationally now too. I think it&#039;s also a precaution. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh but A-List Stars like; Jang Dong Gun, Lee Byung Hyun, Jeon Ji Hyun, Lee Young Ae, Jeon Do Yeon all seemed to have &#8216;embarassed&#8217; themselves on variety shows back in the 90s, and maybe becoz they still are not too big then. Watching them back then, is really an embarassment~ They were dancing and doing silly stuffs too back then, but it was funny. I dont think they can ever do that again now since theyve been around the biz for long I think they really should be seen as Seniors or as Seonbaes to be looked up to. And knowing korean media/critiques nowadays if they go out in a variety/talk show there&#8217;s a big chance some things they say may hurt / damage thier career one way or another.. and those stars are known not even in Asia but internationally now too. I think it&#8217;s also a precaution.</p>
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		<title>By: rub</title>
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		<dc:creator>rub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:33:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Happygirl,

SKH &quot;The Show Must Go On&quot;  is was a flop last year as the box office....</description>
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<p>SKH &#8220;The Show Must Go On&#8221;  is was a flop last year as the box office&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: happygirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>happygirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 07:14:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Ed,

You think &quot;The Host&quot; is a flop??? Since you used &quot;all&quot; hence including SKH.</description>
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<p>You think &#8220;The Host&#8221; is a flop??? Since you used &#8220;all&#8221; hence including SKH.</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/01/theyre-a-list-for-a-reason/comment-page-1/#comment-18536</link>
		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:41:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>p.s. maybe the biggest question is, what variety show in korean TV land has the power of influence like oprah, letterman, tonight show, that celebs absolutely must do to have a box-office hit? maybe they stars aren&#039;t on them b/c the ratings and exposure haven&#039;t proven their usefulness? because these stars certainly put in many hours for press conference, interacting with media on set of production, greeting audience who paid to see their movies in the theater, etc!

methinks the My Daily writer is putting in a few wons for their variety show friends:P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.s. maybe the biggest question is, what variety show in korean TV land has the power of influence like oprah, letterman, tonight show, that celebs absolutely must do to have a box-office hit? maybe they stars aren&#8217;t on them b/c the ratings and exposure haven&#8217;t proven their usefulness? because these stars certainly put in many hours for press conference, interacting with media on set of production, greeting audience who paid to see their movies in the theater, etc!</p>
<p>methinks the My Daily writer is putting in a few wons for their variety show friends:P</p>
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		<title>By: ed</title>
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		<dc:creator>ed</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 04:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yes there is a pattern or expectation for &quot;A-lister behavior&quot;, like maintaining mystery, dignity. but oftentimes it boils down to HOW a film is promoted, what media they decide to target. just cos these A-listers don&#039;t get on variety shows doesn&#039;t mean they aren&#039;t &quot;whoring&quot; themselves out to commercials, product endorsement, constant cycling of news items by their PR muscles in news media. all the A-listers named above have suffered flops in the last 2 years -- every single one of them (well K-films have been in recession since &#039;06.) even if they still maintain the A-lister image from associating with the occasional blockbuster (or b/c no media has aggressively shot them down yet to create a &quot;eww him/her again&quot; backlash), none of which depend on just a single star anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes there is a pattern or expectation for &#8220;A-lister behavior&#8221;, like maintaining mystery, dignity. but oftentimes it boils down to HOW a film is promoted, what media they decide to target. just cos these A-listers don&#8217;t get on variety shows doesn&#8217;t mean they aren&#8217;t &#8220;whoring&#8221; themselves out to commercials, product endorsement, constant cycling of news items by their PR muscles in news media. all the A-listers named above have suffered flops in the last 2 years &#8212; every single one of them (well K-films have been in recession since &#8217;06.) even if they still maintain the A-lister image from associating with the occasional blockbuster (or b/c no media has aggressively shot them down yet to create a &#8220;eww him/her again&#8221; backlash), none of which depend on just a single star anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Heeee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heeee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 03:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love, love, LOVE Jeon JiHyun.  One of the main reasons is that she sells through her talent (or lack thereof, as some people might say), never through promotions, and variety show appearances are absolutely unheard of.  I love how she just does her thing and gets out as quickly as she can, and avoids the celebrity spotlight.  She rarely does interviews and has a heavy veil over her private life.  Whenever she makes a film, she always takes at least a year&#039;s worth of rest in between along with commercials, in order to ensure comfortable time for herself and the industry, instead of scrambling for every film offered in order to make more money.  One of the many reasons why I respect her as an actress.  A true gem.</description>
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<p>I love, love, LOVE Jeon JiHyun.  One of the main reasons is that she sells through her talent (or lack thereof, as some people might say), never through promotions, and variety show appearances are absolutely unheard of.  I love how she just does her thing and gets out as quickly as she can, and avoids the celebrity spotlight.  She rarely does interviews and has a heavy veil over her private life.  Whenever she makes a film, she always takes at least a year&#8217;s worth of rest in between along with commercials, in order to ensure comfortable time for herself and the industry, instead of scrambling for every film offered in order to make more money.  One of the many reasons why I respect her as an actress.  A true gem.</p>
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		<title>By: dae</title>
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		<dc:creator>dae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 20:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve not been able to watch any korean tv shows that has the same format as oprah or jay leonard or any talk shows in the same format yet. I have seen xmen, or yashimanman(?) and though I find them cute and most often admire those matinee idols allowing themselves to be humiliated in some way or the other, but I don&#039;t blame the actors with big names not to engaged in those shows either to promote or just be visibile in those shows. I hope though and would like to see them on the news re their current activities whether shooting or  beeing stalked by paparazzis. I think it&#039;s better to not always see them as oppose to not seeing them at all. If they already have a tv series running on TV, I think its okay to forget about plugging on variety shows. But if they only have a few movies slated to be shown for the year and no tv series at all, I think it&#039;s still good to have them on tv shows - variety or what have you. There&#039;s the consideration of their image, but it wouldn&#039;t hurt the variety shows to do something creative and ingenuine to match their guest status and still be comical (if it be a comic variety show). I&#039;d say the one&#039;s who embarassed themselves mostly are those who accept the invitations of these variety shows when in fact they know what will be asked of them to do and they don&#039;t have the capability nor specific talent to show. Now, there&#039;s also the consideration wether the TV networks would want to guest these actors though, since its also a fact that even these actors are big stars it does not relate to big ratings having them on the show. I wonder, if actors get paid by the networks to guest in their shows to plug their projects or is it the producers of their movies/tv series that does so? Because that would mean then that they (tv networks) would rather not invite them &#039;cause it could be a not so profitable endeavor. Either way, I think it counts that the marketing arm/management of these talents to work on their guesting schedules and the network shows getting them to guest. As a fan, let&#039;s just keep partonizing their projects and pray hard that we see them on TV at the time when we&#039;re watching!.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not been able to watch any korean tv shows that has the same format as oprah or jay leonard or any talk shows in the same format yet. I have seen xmen, or yashimanman(?) and though I find them cute and most often admire those matinee idols allowing themselves to be humiliated in some way or the other, but I don&#8217;t blame the actors with big names not to engaged in those shows either to promote or just be visibile in those shows. I hope though and would like to see them on the news re their current activities whether shooting or  beeing stalked by paparazzis. I think it&#8217;s better to not always see them as oppose to not seeing them at all. If they already have a tv series running on TV, I think its okay to forget about plugging on variety shows. But if they only have a few movies slated to be shown for the year and no tv series at all, I think it&#8217;s still good to have them on tv shows &#8211; variety or what have you. There&#8217;s the consideration of their image, but it wouldn&#8217;t hurt the variety shows to do something creative and ingenuine to match their guest status and still be comical (if it be a comic variety show). I&#8217;d say the one&#8217;s who embarassed themselves mostly are those who accept the invitations of these variety shows when in fact they know what will be asked of them to do and they don&#8217;t have the capability nor specific talent to show. Now, there&#8217;s also the consideration wether the TV networks would want to guest these actors though, since its also a fact that even these actors are big stars it does not relate to big ratings having them on the show. I wonder, if actors get paid by the networks to guest in their shows to plug their projects or is it the producers of their movies/tv series that does so? Because that would mean then that they (tv networks) would rather not invite them &#8217;cause it could be a not so profitable endeavor. Either way, I think it counts that the marketing arm/management of these talents to work on their guesting schedules and the network shows getting them to guest. As a fan, let&#8217;s just keep partonizing their projects and pray hard that we see them on TV at the time when we&#8217;re watching!.</p>
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		<title>By: hellaakon</title>
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		<dc:creator>hellaakon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 12:34:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ hjk

You can choose which is the potato...I have no preference. :)</description>
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<p>You can choose which is the potato&#8230;I have no preference. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Felicity</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felicity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 06:20:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lol, I wouldn&#039;t put Joo Ji Hoon in the same category with Wonbin, Jang Dong Gun, Jeon Ji Hyun and Lee Byung Hun. Those stars are A-listers who&#039;ve made huge box-office hits, while JJH is just a newbie with a popular idol tv drama. Idol stars have nothing to lose by appearing on variety shows as it makes them appear more accesible to the audience, and will help to establish their personas in viewers&#039; minds. Unless of course, these idol stars have very slow wits or pretentious air to them, then avoiding variety shows would be preferable than exposing their dull personalities. For top stars like JDG, LBH and Song Kang Ho, they are already so established and audiences have a firm impression of their style. So it&#039;s up to them whether or not they want to do the talk show circuit. Most of them don&#039;t because they don&#039;t have to - their name attached to the movie project is enough to create buzz. The system is different in Hollywood, I think because in Hollywood  select talk shows are seen as more respectable and have wider influence. There are high class talk shows like Oprah, Leto and Letterman and then there are those like Jerry Springer and Jimmy Kimmel. A-listers will never appear on the trashier talk shows, and usually Oprah gets A-listers to appear on her shows as a friendly favour, so that&#039;s a win-win situation for all - I promote my movie while you get higher ratings for your talk show when I appear. The powerful stars in Hollywood are close knit and scratch each other&#039;s backs.</description>
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<p>Lol, I wouldn&#8217;t put Joo Ji Hoon in the same category with Wonbin, Jang Dong Gun, Jeon Ji Hyun and Lee Byung Hun. Those stars are A-listers who&#8217;ve made huge box-office hits, while JJH is just a newbie with a popular idol tv drama. Idol stars have nothing to lose by appearing on variety shows as it makes them appear more accesible to the audience, and will help to establish their personas in viewers&#8217; minds. Unless of course, these idol stars have very slow wits or pretentious air to them, then avoiding variety shows would be preferable than exposing their dull personalities. For top stars like JDG, LBH and Song Kang Ho, they are already so established and audiences have a firm impression of their style. So it&#8217;s up to them whether or not they want to do the talk show circuit. Most of them don&#8217;t because they don&#8217;t have to &#8211; their name attached to the movie project is enough to create buzz. The system is different in Hollywood, I think because in Hollywood  select talk shows are seen as more respectable and have wider influence. There are high class talk shows like Oprah, Leto and Letterman and then there are those like Jerry Springer and Jimmy Kimmel. A-listers will never appear on the trashier talk shows, and usually Oprah gets A-listers to appear on her shows as a friendly favour, so that&#8217;s a win-win situation for all &#8211; I promote my movie while you get higher ratings for your talk show when I appear. The powerful stars in Hollywood are close knit and scratch each other&#8217;s backs.</p>
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		<title>By: marzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>marzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jan 2008 03:50:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>id hafta agree that korean variety and american talk shows are far different. not unless they&#039;d come out with a show that doesnt need the antics with the talk. just simple talk and maybe a game using brains? or such? but i bet that wouldnt draw audiences to watch those. i think the korean audiences like the variety show style cause it shows a humbler/human like quality to stars because it shows who can take clowning around, losing, doing silly things, and being blown in the face right? but to the other stars it maybe its not on their level or pride as well. so i can understand that. it also speaks for itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>id hafta agree that korean variety and american talk shows are far different. not unless they&#8217;d come out with a show that doesnt need the antics with the talk. just simple talk and maybe a game using brains? or such? but i bet that wouldnt draw audiences to watch those. i think the korean audiences like the variety show style cause it shows a humbler/human like quality to stars because it shows who can take clowning around, losing, doing silly things, and being blown in the face right? but to the other stars it maybe its not on their level or pride as well. so i can understand that. it also speaks for itself.</p>
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