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	<description>Deconstructing korean dramas and kpop culture</description>
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		<title>By: belleza</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/03/open-thread-22/comment-page-1/#comment-30279</link>
		<dc:creator>belleza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Mar 2008 09:19:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Crystal,

Some of it has to do with Korean internet culture, which is the most developed in the world.  Regular awards shows hand out prizes reflecting the Netizen community, and KBS will shape their future programming and casting around Netizen opinion.  And this also spreads into Asian American culture too -- I think there&#039;s more pop culture blog sites covering K-pop than there are for C-pop and J-pop [I]combined[/I]  Koreans have taken enormous pride in spreading their pop culture all over Asia.  It&#039;s the equivalent of Scotland suddenly become the cultural center of the UK.

I still like watching J-dramas, but even in Japan, their popularity has significantly declined due to the over, over-emphasis on idol actors/actresses.  If you&#039;re an actress of over 25, you&#039;re over the median age for a female lead in a J-drama.  If you&#039;re an actor of over 32, you&#039;re over the median age.  That said, the popularity of J-drama have increased significantly among the Netizen community, and it&#039;s kinda moved KBS to program in a more original original direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Crystal,</p>
<p>Some of it has to do with Korean internet culture, which is the most developed in the world.  Regular awards shows hand out prizes reflecting the Netizen community, and KBS will shape their future programming and casting around Netizen opinion.  And this also spreads into Asian American culture too &#8212; I think there&#8217;s more pop culture blog sites covering K-pop than there are for C-pop and J-pop [I]combined[/I]  Koreans have taken enormous pride in spreading their pop culture all over Asia.  It&#8217;s the equivalent of Scotland suddenly become the cultural center of the UK.</p>
<p>I still like watching J-dramas, but even in Japan, their popularity has significantly declined due to the over, over-emphasis on idol actors/actresses.  If you&#8217;re an actress of over 25, you&#8217;re over the median age for a female lead in a J-drama.  If you&#8217;re an actor of over 32, you&#8217;re over the median age.  That said, the popularity of J-drama have increased significantly among the Netizen community, and it&#8217;s kinda moved KBS to program in a more original original direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Crystal</title>
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		<dc:creator>Crystal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Mar 2008 01:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Since you are all Korean drama fans, I was wondering if you also like watching Japanese dramas.
I think Korean productions are more giving to their audience and fans since their websites are filled with information (sometimes there&#039;s even an English version), with lots of official photos and wallpapers available for free download.
It&#039;s not the same with Japanese (and Taiwanese) dramas and I find that somewhat frustrating.</description>
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<p>Since you are all Korean drama fans, I was wondering if you also like watching Japanese dramas.<br />
I think Korean productions are more giving to their audience and fans since their websites are filled with information (sometimes there&#8217;s even an English version), with lots of official photos and wallpapers available for free download.<br />
It&#8217;s not the same with Japanese (and Taiwanese) dramas and I find that somewhat frustrating.</p>
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		<title>By: belleza</title>
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		<dc:creator>belleza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 21:21:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@marcel,
Amen to that.  

@Alodia,
Yeah, Seven Days (which BTW has been optioned to be remade as a Hollywood flick) ended up going to Lost&#039;s Kim Yun Jin, and it did well at the box office.  And to be fair, that&#039;s probably a better choice since Shiri kinda molded Yun Jin&#039;s image as the tough chic you don&#039;t mess wit.  I also felt the same with DaeMul, and IMO it was probably a honor just to be associated with the ultra A-list tagged to that project.  (Though, yes, a rom-com with Sun Ah and  Kwon Sang Woo basically writes itself.  Guaranteed hit if you can afford the bill.)

Thing about Sun Ah is her whole career has been a struggle.  Coming back from Yesterday.  Coming back from MNIKSS.  And in fact, her comedic style was partially molded from her struggles acting and talking like other Koreans.  Those experiences also give her a different philosophy from other actors.  Other actors (like Song Hye Kyo) want to prove they can do different roles and challenging films.  For her, the biggest joy is doing something she&#039;s loved for and making crowd pleasing films.

@rika,
Kang Ji Hwan is kind of the Hugh Jackman of K-drama.  He was a successful musical theatre actor (Grease) before he crossed over to TV, where the money was better.  As a result, he&#039;s a bit older than other actors with comparable TV experience.  He can act really broad; he act really small, straight from the eyes; he can sing; he can dance.  He can&#039;t keep Jang Geun Suk from confusing wounded gravity with tedious self-absorption, but that&#039;s another rant . . ..  :D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@marcel,<br />
Amen to that.  </p>
<p>@Alodia,<br />
Yeah, Seven Days (which BTW has been optioned to be remade as a Hollywood flick) ended up going to Lost&#8217;s Kim Yun Jin, and it did well at the box office.  And to be fair, that&#8217;s probably a better choice since Shiri kinda molded Yun Jin&#8217;s image as the tough chic you don&#8217;t mess wit.  I also felt the same with DaeMul, and IMO it was probably a honor just to be associated with the ultra A-list tagged to that project.  (Though, yes, a rom-com with Sun Ah and  Kwon Sang Woo basically writes itself.  Guaranteed hit if you can afford the bill.)</p>
<p>Thing about Sun Ah is her whole career has been a struggle.  Coming back from Yesterday.  Coming back from MNIKSS.  And in fact, her comedic style was partially molded from her struggles acting and talking like other Koreans.  Those experiences also give her a different philosophy from other actors.  Other actors (like Song Hye Kyo) want to prove they can do different roles and challenging films.  For her, the biggest joy is doing something she&#8217;s loved for and making crowd pleasing films.</p>
<p>@rika,<br />
Kang Ji Hwan is kind of the Hugh Jackman of K-drama.  He was a successful musical theatre actor (Grease) before he crossed over to TV, where the money was better.  As a result, he&#8217;s a bit older than other actors with comparable TV experience.  He can act really broad; he act really small, straight from the eyes; he can sing; he can dance.  He can&#8217;t keep Jang Geun Suk from confusing wounded gravity with tedious self-absorption, but that&#8217;s another rant . . ..  <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kiongna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kiongna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 16:28:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Read of the loss ...sincere condolences to LDG and his family so tragic, so sad...the year so far has been horrid for him..*sighs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Read of the loss &#8230;sincere condolences to LDG and his family so tragic, so sad&#8230;the year so far has been horrid for him..*sighs*</p>
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		<title>By: marcel</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 07:55:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>belleza, 
i feel so sorry for him.. i just saw the news articles and their family photo.. it&#039;s horrifying.. i can&#039;t believe something this terrible happened to him.. it&#039;s such a tragic loss..</description>
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<p>belleza,<br />
i feel so sorry for him.. i just saw the news articles and their family photo.. it&#8217;s horrifying.. i can&#8217;t believe something this terrible happened to him.. it&#8217;s such a tragic loss..</p>
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		<title>By: Easter Egg Hunter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Easter Egg Hunter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m busy hunting easter eggs on Fluff(friends)!</description>
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		<title>By: rika</title>
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		<dc:creator>rika</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 03:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>first time in an open thread...hehe
just have to share my thoughts about Kang Ji Hwan..i first saw him in the series &quot;Be strong Goem..&quot; something..i forget the title..didn&#039;t watch it coz it&#039;s too long...anyway, i love his smile, and he just looks good...but i didn&#039;t follow any of his drama though..until Hong Gil Dong..and while waiting for subs, I&#039;m currently watching Capital Scandal...he&#039;s acting is great here...he can pull of a dramatic and funny scene..the dancing too and the flirting haha..of course in Hong Gil Dong the action!</description>
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<p>first time in an open thread&#8230;hehe<br />
just have to share my thoughts about Kang Ji Hwan..i first saw him in the series &#8220;Be strong Goem..&#8221; something..i forget the title..didn&#8217;t watch it coz it&#8217;s too long&#8230;anyway, i love his smile, and he just looks good&#8230;but i didn&#8217;t follow any of his drama though..until Hong Gil Dong..and while waiting for subs, I&#8217;m currently watching Capital Scandal&#8230;he&#8217;s acting is great here&#8230;he can pull of a dramatic and funny scene..the dancing too and the flirting haha..of course in Hong Gil Dong the action!</p>
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		<title>By: Nonbirira</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nonbirira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We had our college/university graduation ceremonies on Good Friday.   Sat through both.  Was a LONG haul but I was so proud of some of those kids - oops - young adults! Cleaning all day Saturday since my 2 nieces arrive on Easter Sunday for 1 week in Japan.  Can&#039;t wait!  

Speaking of Shibuya-kei - anyone familiar with &quot;Orange Pekoe?&quot;  I LOVE this group!  A bit jazzier than some Shibuya-kei groups.  Highly recommend their Organic Plastic Music CD - which was their breakthrough album.  (Wikipedia describes them as jazz - not as Shibuya-kei - but I have seen them described as such in Japan.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We had our college/university graduation ceremonies on Good Friday.   Sat through both.  Was a LONG haul but I was so proud of some of those kids &#8211; oops &#8211; young adults! Cleaning all day Saturday since my 2 nieces arrive on Easter Sunday for 1 week in Japan.  Can&#8217;t wait!  </p>
<p>Speaking of Shibuya-kei &#8211; anyone familiar with &#8220;Orange Pekoe?&#8221;  I LOVE this group!  A bit jazzier than some Shibuya-kei groups.  Highly recommend their Organic Plastic Music CD &#8211; which was their breakthrough album.  (Wikipedia describes them as jazz &#8211; not as Shibuya-kei &#8211; but I have seen them described as such in Japan.)</p>
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		<title>By: Alodia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alodia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 00:12:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope LDG&#039;s-brother-incident won&#039;t affect his upcoming drama with Kim Sun Ah. I&#039;ve been waiting for Suna&#039;s comeback after My Name Kim Sam Soon and had always been disappointed for about 3 years now.
1. The first project that she accepted amongst many offers after the &quot;phenomenal&quot; My Name Is Kim Sam Soon, which is &quot;Thursday&#039;s Child&quot; had been shelved and eventually given to another actress and was changed to &quot;Seven Days&quot;. Could have been a great outlet for Kim Sun Ah&#039;s acting prowess after MNIKSS. Too bad, many things happened, including her being sued by the production staff.
2. Eventually after a long wait, &quot;Girlscouts&quot; came into the picture. Not a totally exciting project for her. But better than nothing. Seems enjoyable too. Supposed to be shown this April but was moved to June.
3. DaeMul was given to Go Hyun Jung. Although it was not &quot;officially announced&quot; that it was offered to Sun Ah, she was still included in the list last year by the Korean media.
4. Finally, something exciting came up when &quot;When It&#039;s At Night&quot; (밤이면 밤마다) was announced a couple of days ago.
Then something bad happened with LDG... =.= I really hope this will not affect their project nor it would cause any delays. That&#039;s the least thing that Sun Ah needs at the moment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope LDG&#8217;s-brother-incident won&#8217;t affect his upcoming drama with Kim Sun Ah. I&#8217;ve been waiting for Suna&#8217;s comeback after My Name Kim Sam Soon and had always been disappointed for about 3 years now.<br />
1. The first project that she accepted amongst many offers after the &#8220;phenomenal&#8221; My Name Is Kim Sam Soon, which is &#8220;Thursday&#8217;s Child&#8221; had been shelved and eventually given to another actress and was changed to &#8220;Seven Days&#8221;. Could have been a great outlet for Kim Sun Ah&#8217;s acting prowess after MNIKSS. Too bad, many things happened, including her being sued by the production staff.<br />
2. Eventually after a long wait, &#8220;Girlscouts&#8221; came into the picture. Not a totally exciting project for her. But better than nothing. Seems enjoyable too. Supposed to be shown this April but was moved to June.<br />
3. DaeMul was given to Go Hyun Jung. Although it was not &#8220;officially announced&#8221; that it was offered to Sun Ah, she was still included in the list last year by the Korean media.<br />
4. Finally, something exciting came up when &#8220;When It&#8217;s At Night&#8221; (밤이면 밤마다) was announced a couple of days ago.<br />
Then something bad happened with LDG&#8230; =.= I really hope this will not affect their project nor it would cause any delays. That&#8217;s the least thing that Sun Ah needs at the moment.</p>
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		<title>By: belleza</title>
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		<dc:creator>belleza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 23:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>marcel,

I imagine this past year has been truly a nightmare for LDG.  Also I wonder how this affects Han Ji Hye, and whether there is any kind of friendship between them left so that she can help him through this.

I mean, this is the very nightmare scenario every parent fears when their children go abroad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marcel,</p>
<p>I imagine this past year has been truly a nightmare for LDG.  Also I wonder how this affects Han Ji Hye, and whether there is any kind of friendship between them left so that she can help him through this.</p>
<p>I mean, this is the very nightmare scenario every parent fears when their children go abroad.</p>
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