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	<title>Comments on: Korean-Japanese co-production Tokyo Showers</title>
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		<title>By: Raquel</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/05/tokyo-showers/#comment-98118</link>
		<dc:creator>Raquel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 00:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually I love this drama, I really don&#039;t know why...</description>
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		<title>By: shro</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/05/tokyo-showers/#comment-41160</link>
		<dc:creator>shro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 02:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SOULMATE HUNK!!!!</description>
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<p>SOULMATE HUNK!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: ruzan</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/05/tokyo-showers/#comment-41140</link>
		<dc:creator>ruzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 00:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, Kim Tae Woo in a drama. I&#039;m always curious when a movie actor decides to act in a drama. Will check this out because of him.</description>
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		<title>By: belleza</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/05/tokyo-showers/#comment-41107</link>
		<dc:creator>belleza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 21:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually liked the Friends K-J drama a lot (Won Bin &gt; FTW!), but the most notable bit is the part where Won Bin&#039;s character does his service.  That part is essentially an commercial for the Korean military and a not very subtle message to Japan about Korean&#039;s ability to defend itself.  As George Bush would say, don&#039;t mess with Seoul! 

@sowhat,

Rondo didn&#039;t draw a very good response, but I thought it was a better Hong Kong-style thriller (a la Infernal Affairs) than, say, Time of Dog and Wolf.  Oh and Ayaka&#039;s &quot;I Believe&quot; is LOVE!

@Miki,

I&#039;d say both Japan and Taiwan have stronger idol industries than Korea.  Seriously, all K-drama complaints about pretty faces that can&#039;t act go out the window if you consider that Sung Yu Ri&#039;s acting skills (pre-Hong Gil Dong) would be considered &quot;average&quot; in J-drama. 

Most &quot;headliner&quot; J-dramas are targeted toward teenage girls (overall TV viewership in Japan isn&#039;t high anymore.)   Thus the most popular J-dramas are usually ones with idols from Johnny Entertainment , and it&#039;s rare for a JE junior to have a kissing part in a show lest they alienate their audience.  Most lead actresses (even Nanako Matsushima) started out as U15 idols and gravure.  Korean netizens are notorious all over Asia, but part of that is due to the familiar relationship between stars and fans, hereas image management in Japan is much tighter.  For example, Inoue Mao got heat from Arashi fans due to her casual interaction with Matsumoto Jun during public appearances.  And when Nagase broke up with Ayu, implying it was mostly due to her, much of her fanbase completely turned on her.

The irony is that Japanese actors/actresses, even top tier, aren&#039;t paid nearly as well as their Korean counterparts.  It&#039;s not that merely idols are treated unusually well, but if a drama botches a JE idol&#039;s image, Mr. Johnny Himself will end your career in J-drama.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually liked the Friends K-J drama a lot (Won Bin &gt; FTW!), but the most notable bit is the part where Won Bin&#8217;s character does his service.  That part is essentially an commercial for the Korean military and a not very subtle message to Japan about Korean&#8217;s ability to defend itself.  As George Bush would say, don&#8217;t mess with Seoul! </p>
<p>@sowhat,</p>
<p>Rondo didn&#8217;t draw a very good response, but I thought it was a better Hong Kong-style thriller (a la Infernal Affairs) than, say, Time of Dog and Wolf.  Oh and Ayaka&#8217;s &#8220;I Believe&#8221; is LOVE!</p>
<p>@Miki,</p>
<p>I&#8217;d say both Japan and Taiwan have stronger idol industries than Korea.  Seriously, all K-drama complaints about pretty faces that can&#8217;t act go out the window if you consider that Sung Yu Ri&#8217;s acting skills (pre-Hong Gil Dong) would be considered &#8220;average&#8221; in J-drama. </p>
<p>Most &#8220;headliner&#8221; J-dramas are targeted toward teenage girls (overall TV viewership in Japan isn&#8217;t high anymore.)   Thus the most popular J-dramas are usually ones with idols from Johnny Entertainment , and it&#8217;s rare for a JE junior to have a kissing part in a show lest they alienate their audience.  Most lead actresses (even Nanako Matsushima) started out as U15 idols and gravure.  Korean netizens are notorious all over Asia, but part of that is due to the familiar relationship between stars and fans, hereas image management in Japan is much tighter.  For example, Inoue Mao got heat from Arashi fans due to her casual interaction with Matsumoto Jun during public appearances.  And when Nagase broke up with Ayu, implying it was mostly due to her, much of her fanbase completely turned on her.</p>
<p>The irony is that Japanese actors/actresses, even top tier, aren&#8217;t paid nearly as well as their Korean counterparts.  It&#8217;s not that merely idols are treated unusually well, but if a drama botches a JE idol&#8217;s image, Mr. Johnny Himself will end your career in J-drama.</p>
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		<title>By: kotatsulove</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/05/tokyo-showers/#comment-41076</link>
		<dc:creator>kotatsulove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh yay, its Ryohei!  he&#039;s so adorable in Soulmate.  this doesn&#039;t look super appealing to me, but i hope it goes better than Friends did.</description>
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		<title>By: anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 18:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Playing a Korean student dreaming of becoming a singer while working part-time in a restaurant.&quot;
That won&#039;t be too hard for her.</description>
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That won&#8217;t be too hard for her.</p>
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		<title>By: Miki</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/05/tokyo-showers/#comment-41050</link>
		<dc:creator>Miki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 14:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;They wait for rain&quot;

I think this is better practice. Sure, you should have SOME flexibility, I&#039;m not going to disagree, but I like real rain. Artificial rain looks....artificial. It&#039;s really obvious most of the time. 

And the Japanese idol syndrome is as big, if not worse than in Korea....I&#039;m not surprised the cast gets special treatment. But then I don&#039;t believe they don&#039;t do that in Korea either.</description>
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<p>&#8220;They wait for rain&#8221;</p>
<p>I think this is better practice. Sure, you should have SOME flexibility, I&#8217;m not going to disagree, but I like real rain. Artificial rain looks&#8230;.artificial. It&#8217;s really obvious most of the time. </p>
<p>And the Japanese idol syndrome is as big, if not worse than in Korea&#8230;.I&#8217;m not surprised the cast gets special treatment. But then I don&#8217;t believe they don&#8217;t do that in Korea either.</p>
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