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	<description>Deconstructing kdramas and kpop culture</description>
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		<title>By: Pre-Teen Talents</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/07/oh-no-they-dint/#comment-109682</link>
		<dc:creator>Pre-Teen Talents</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Apr 2009 17:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow where do you start with this topic hmmm!

The whole Junior Idols thing appears to be an industry in need of a major &#039;Shake-Up&#039; for some years now, more particularly in Japan where it seems that Under 15&#039;s Idols have become a whole industry in itself and a confusing mass of legitimate Talents amongst a vast amount of what is seen by the West and much of the East as &#039;Totally Inappropriate&#039; imagary of Minors.

Young Male Teenagers and &#039;Adults&#039; posting photos and exchanging wallpapers of the likes of Saaya Irie at age 11, 12,13 may think it is cool in idolising such performers and arguing the fact that it is legitimate currently in Japan, however, in doing so they are also condoning the exploitation of &#039;Very Young Children&#039; and those who prey on the Aspirations of the young. The fact is, there is a behind the scenes element to the Junior Idols industry that pedals the euqivelant of &#039;Soft Child Porn&#039; under the guise of &#039;Junior Idols&#039; and &#039;Cosplay&#039; and I&#039;m certain that if many who post photos of such idols were totally aware of that, then they may think twice and consider the bigger picture.

Terms and Fashions such as &#039;Lolita Fashion&#039; and &#039;Gothic Lolita&#039; have become immense in popularity over the years amongst adults, nothing wrong with that, however, it does become a problem when those in the &#039;So Called&#039; Junior Idols Industries adopt these looks and themes to Market Children, fact is an 11 year old girl in a Shorts Skirt Maids Outfit and High Heels Posing Provocatively is seen by a majority of caring adults globally as unacceptable.

If the more &#039;Sleezy&#039; side of that industry is not addressed and seen as acceptable, then it is, unfortunately going to open the flood gates to more mainstreem promoters of young Talents such as the groups you highlight to market those youngsters in those similar ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow where do you start with this topic hmmm!</p>
<p>The whole Junior Idols thing appears to be an industry in need of a major &#8216;Shake-Up&#8217; for some years now, more particularly in Japan where it seems that Under 15&#8217;s Idols have become a whole industry in itself and a confusing mass of legitimate Talents amongst a vast amount of what is seen by the West and much of the East as &#8216;Totally Inappropriate&#8217; imagary of Minors.</p>
<p>Young Male Teenagers and &#8216;Adults&#8217; posting photos and exchanging wallpapers of the likes of Saaya Irie at age 11, 12,13 may think it is cool in idolising such performers and arguing the fact that it is legitimate currently in Japan, however, in doing so they are also condoning the exploitation of &#8216;Very Young Children&#8217; and those who prey on the Aspirations of the young. The fact is, there is a behind the scenes element to the Junior Idols industry that pedals the euqivelant of &#8216;Soft Child Porn&#8217; under the guise of &#8216;Junior Idols&#8217; and &#8216;Cosplay&#8217; and I&#8217;m certain that if many who post photos of such idols were totally aware of that, then they may think twice and consider the bigger picture.</p>
<p>Terms and Fashions such as &#8216;Lolita Fashion&#8217; and &#8216;Gothic Lolita&#8217; have become immense in popularity over the years amongst adults, nothing wrong with that, however, it does become a problem when those in the &#8216;So Called&#8217; Junior Idols Industries adopt these looks and themes to Market Children, fact is an 11 year old girl in a Shorts Skirt Maids Outfit and High Heels Posing Provocatively is seen by a majority of caring adults globally as unacceptable.</p>
<p>If the more &#8216;Sleezy&#8217; side of that industry is not addressed and seen as acceptable, then it is, unfortunately going to open the flood gates to more mainstreem promoters of young Talents such as the groups you highlight to market those youngsters in those similar ways.</p>
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		<title>By: Muhria</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/07/oh-no-they-dint/#comment-82912</link>
		<dc:creator>Muhria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Jan 2009 05:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>tsk. tsk. tsk.

when youre low you can only get higher,
and Wonder Girls have done just that,
Nobody lives have redeemed the girls of 
their Tell Me days(hmm... didnt they also just
debut that year as well...) well its been about 2
years and the girls have def improved so you
can keep your 07 lives
and ill listen to 08&#039;s good stuff, 

hmm this was a great perf by the girls
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snGMvQHWNx8</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>tsk. tsk. tsk.</p>
<p>when youre low you can only get higher,<br />
and Wonder Girls have done just that,<br />
Nobody lives have redeemed the girls of<br />
their Tell Me days(hmm&#8230; didnt they also just<br />
debut that year as well&#8230;) well its been about 2<br />
years and the girls have def improved so you<br />
can keep your 07 lives<br />
and ill listen to 08&#8217;s good stuff, </p>
<p>hmm this was a great perf by the girls<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snGMvQHWNx8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snGMvQHWNx8</a></p>
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		<title>By: Baby Phat Discounts</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/07/oh-no-they-dint/#comment-77076</link>
		<dc:creator>Baby Phat Discounts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Dec 2008 12:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice Baby Phat information (i like it) I only think they are a little bit expensive, don&#039;t you think? Bye Bye</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice Baby Phat information (i like it) I only think they are a little bit expensive, don&#8217;t you think? Bye Bye</p>
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		<title>By: ak</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/07/oh-no-they-dint/#comment-55398</link>
		<dc:creator>ak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2008 03:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ugh horrible.
btw listen to wonder girl&#039;s live perform. of the song irony,
i think they&#039;re voices are more alto and that&#039;s why they can barely sing their latest songs haha not to be all defensive, to be honest i don&#039;t even like them that much but whatever, trying to give them a chance</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ugh horrible.<br />
btw listen to wonder girl&#8217;s live perform. of the song irony,<br />
i think they&#8217;re voices are more alto and that&#8217;s why they can barely sing their latest songs haha not to be all defensive, to be honest i don&#8217;t even like them that much but whatever, trying to give them a chance</p>
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		<title>By: Lilith11</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lilith11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 16:22:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WTF?  Who would their... music even appeal to?!  Are men so desperate nowadays that they find them &quot;attractive?&quot;   I mean, I&#039;ve got nothing against child stars, long as they can juggle an education, but this is crossing the boundary.  Look, you don&#039;t put six/eight year olds in freakin&#039; miniskirts, high heels, and midriff baring shirts!  That&#039;s just..... sick.... soooooooo freakin&#039; damn sick.  I mean, yeah, people like BoA debuted at thirteen, but 1). at least she&#039;s a damn teen and 2). She was wearing a freakin&#039; BODY SUIT.  Yeesh, leave the sexy image to the older ones who actually have the confidence, maturity, and BODY to pull it off, like Chae Yeon and Hyori.  I mean, even BoA, who debuted at 13/14, at least waited until she was of age to start going for a more sexy image and even then, she kept to pants.  And what about their parents!  They&#039;re actually okay with their daughters doing this?  WTF?

What&#039;s the world coming to these days?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WTF?  Who would their&#8230; music even appeal to?!  Are men so desperate nowadays that they find them &#8220;attractive?&#8221;   I mean, I&#8217;ve got nothing against child stars, long as they can juggle an education, but this is crossing the boundary.  Look, you don&#8217;t put six/eight year olds in freakin&#8217; miniskirts, high heels, and midriff baring shirts!  That&#8217;s just&#8230;.. sick&#8230;. soooooooo freakin&#8217; damn sick.  I mean, yeah, people like BoA debuted at thirteen, but 1). at least she&#8217;s a damn teen and 2). She was wearing a freakin&#8217; BODY SUIT.  Yeesh, leave the sexy image to the older ones who actually have the confidence, maturity, and BODY to pull it off, like Chae Yeon and Hyori.  I mean, even BoA, who debuted at 13/14, at least waited until she was of age to start going for a more sexy image and even then, she kept to pants.  And what about their parents!  They&#8217;re actually okay with their daughters doing this?  WTF?</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the world coming to these days?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaenna</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/07/oh-no-they-dint/#comment-54672</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaenna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 19:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is this world coming to? Hahaha. When I saw this all I could do was laugh. And I agree with most of what everyone i saying here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is this world coming to? Hahaha. When I saw this all I could do was laugh. And I agree with most of what everyone i saying here.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 03:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you on that. I mean, don&#039;t get me wrong, i like the wonder girls and all, but they are just too young to be dressing like that. Imagine those children who look up to them. I sure as hell wouldn&#039;t want my little girl running in clothes like that, and give me an excuse, &quot;but the wonder girls wear this mommy&quot;. The horror.</description>
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<p>I agree with you on that. I mean, don&#8217;t get me wrong, i like the wonder girls and all, but they are just too young to be dressing like that. Imagine those children who look up to them. I sure as hell wouldn&#8217;t want my little girl running in clothes like that, and give me an excuse, &#8220;but the wonder girls wear this mommy&#8221;. The horror.</p>
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