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	<title>Comments on: Point-counterpoint: In defense of Eun-soo</title>
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		<title>By: deannadsc</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/07/point-counterpoint-in-defense-of-eun-soo/comment-page-1/#comment-73559</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 08:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>where can i find MSS&#039; drama recaps for episodes 14-16, please? the dvd i bought has the worst english subtitles &amp; i rely very much on your recaps to fully understand the twists &amp; turns leading to its ending...
thanks &amp; keep up the good work!!!</description>
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thanks &amp; keep up the good work!!!</p>
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		<title>By: sleeplessinwgtn</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/07/point-counterpoint-in-defense-of-eun-soo/comment-page-1/#comment-68350</link>
		<dc:creator>sleeplessinwgtn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:34:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad someone as eloquent as javabeans has explored Eun Soo&#039;s character on the other side of the fence.  I liked the drama and  didn&#039;t feel the negativity towards Eun Soo that majority of the commentators did.

As Dahee highlighted, Eun Soo is not the typical pretty and perfect lead character.  Pretty much like the 2nd female lead in Coffee Prince, Han Yoo Ju, who was disliked by a lot viewers at the start because she was insensitive to the 2 cousins, stringing along Han Kyul and cheating no Han Seong.  However, I think that&#039;s reality... sometimes you find yourself in a situation when things are better left grey rather than black and white.  Of course we know that sooner or later we cannot keep sitting on the fence.

These dramas show the journeys we all make to &#039;near perfection&#039;.  Sometimes, the pace is slower than we would like it to be.

I can understand Eun Soo and I love how she portrayed the character.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad someone as eloquent as javabeans has explored Eun Soo&#8217;s character on the other side of the fence.  I liked the drama and  didn&#8217;t feel the negativity towards Eun Soo that majority of the commentators did.</p>
<p>As Dahee highlighted, Eun Soo is not the typical pretty and perfect lead character.  Pretty much like the 2nd female lead in Coffee Prince, Han Yoo Ju, who was disliked by a lot viewers at the start because she was insensitive to the 2 cousins, stringing along Han Kyul and cheating no Han Seong.  However, I think that&#8217;s reality&#8230; sometimes you find yourself in a situation when things are better left grey rather than black and white.  Of course we know that sooner or later we cannot keep sitting on the fence.</p>
<p>These dramas show the journeys we all make to &#8216;near perfection&#8217;.  Sometimes, the pace is slower than we would like it to be.</p>
<p>I can understand Eun Soo and I love how she portrayed the character.</p>
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		<title>By: xiaoSxin</title>
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		<dc:creator>xiaoSxin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:27:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh god.. JAVABEANS AND DAHEE.. you rock!!!! this counterpoint discussion is amazing!!! excellent job on the analysis!!!! i have not watched my sweet seoul yet but after reading this, i&#039;m already geared up to watch it so that i know what is all the buzz about Eun soo&#039;s character.. I didn&#039;t watch it before because from the descriptions it is like another 30 something working female torn between a younger guy and a successful male. and I LOVE DAL JA&#039; S SPRING, so i wanted to take some &quot;time off&quot; between these 2 series so that when I watched MSS, I wouldn&#039;t compare it to DJS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh god.. JAVABEANS AND DAHEE.. you rock!!!! this counterpoint discussion is amazing!!! excellent job on the analysis!!!! i have not watched my sweet seoul yet but after reading this, i&#8217;m already geared up to watch it so that i know what is all the buzz about Eun soo&#8217;s character.. I didn&#8217;t watch it before because from the descriptions it is like another 30 something working female torn between a younger guy and a successful male. and I LOVE DAL JA&#8217; S SPRING, so i wanted to take some &#8220;time off&#8221; between these 2 series so that when I watched MSS, I wouldn&#8217;t compare it to DJS.</p>
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		<title>By: Atreyu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atreyu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 00:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not good with words.. but i can&#039;t help it but to drop a few cents worth.. 

At first i was a bit skeptical with this drama, knowing that not many ppl into this kind of drama.. of self discovery journey.. i love it! its the same feeling as i had after i watched Someday.. 

what eun soo experieced is what normally a 30s single woman would experience. There will be times that we are not certain of the direction that we are taking.. and sometimes, we like to use some diversion as a way of trying to feel so frustrated in life..

I feel that Tae Oh is like a diversion that eun soo needs.. all this while, her life has been a bit down.. not turn out as what she seems want it to be.. tae oh has make a her see another angle in life.. with tae oh, she becomes more matured and more certain of what decision she should make/take.. as for yong soo.. he is her pillar of strength.. i agree with dahee&#039;s comment.. when we want to seek a life partner, we should search someone who can bring out the best in us.. and that&#039;s what Yong soo did.. the love just blossom.. sigh.. i just loveee the love story between yong soo with eun soo.. even though the pace is a bit slow.. but then, we should enjoy journey of love and discovery.. 

lastly.. that compass is absolutely cool!!! now, they are moving in one direction..</description>
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<p>I am not good with words.. but i can&#8217;t help it but to drop a few cents worth.. </p>
<p>At first i was a bit skeptical with this drama, knowing that not many ppl into this kind of drama.. of self discovery journey.. i love it! its the same feeling as i had after i watched Someday.. </p>
<p>what eun soo experieced is what normally a 30s single woman would experience. There will be times that we are not certain of the direction that we are taking.. and sometimes, we like to use some diversion as a way of trying to feel so frustrated in life..</p>
<p>I feel that Tae Oh is like a diversion that eun soo needs.. all this while, her life has been a bit down.. not turn out as what she seems want it to be.. tae oh has make a her see another angle in life.. with tae oh, she becomes more matured and more certain of what decision she should make/take.. as for yong soo.. he is her pillar of strength.. i agree with dahee&#8217;s comment.. when we want to seek a life partner, we should search someone who can bring out the best in us.. and that&#8217;s what Yong soo did.. the love just blossom.. sigh.. i just loveee the love story between yong soo with eun soo.. even though the pace is a bit slow.. but then, we should enjoy journey of love and discovery.. </p>
<p>lastly.. that compass is absolutely cool!!! now, they are moving in one direction..</p>
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		<title>By: melica</title>
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		<dc:creator>melica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a little late in beginning watching this show but I thought I&#039;d add my two cents...

I think Eun Soo seems pretty realistic.  She seems like a lot of women in their twenties and early thirties trying to figure out what it means to be an adult and what one wants when she doesn&#039;t really know herself or her motivations that well. And she is moving forward sort of blindly and people are caught in her confusion and cowardice.  Also I didn&#039;t see her confessing love to Tae-oh as disingenuous.  She completely meant it but what that love actually adds up to in relationship longevity and compatibility isn&#039;t all that much.  There is a lot of love to be had but most loves don&#039;t end up being grounds for stable long lasting relationships.  Just my opinion...

Thanks for the point-counterpoint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a little late in beginning watching this show but I thought I&#8217;d add my two cents&#8230;</p>
<p>I think Eun Soo seems pretty realistic.  She seems like a lot of women in their twenties and early thirties trying to figure out what it means to be an adult and what one wants when she doesn&#8217;t really know herself or her motivations that well. And she is moving forward sort of blindly and people are caught in her confusion and cowardice.  Also I didn&#8217;t see her confessing love to Tae-oh as disingenuous.  She completely meant it but what that love actually adds up to in relationship longevity and compatibility isn&#8217;t all that much.  There is a lot of love to be had but most loves don&#8217;t end up being grounds for stable long lasting relationships.  Just my opinion&#8230;</p>
<p>Thanks for the point-counterpoint.</p>
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		<title>By: kotatsulove</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/07/point-counterpoint-in-defense-of-eun-soo/comment-page-1/#comment-51508</link>
		<dc:creator>kotatsulove</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Aug 2008 16:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thanks for this discussion!  while i&#039;m kind of in the middle of both of your views, its great to hear another side.  while i love hearing Javabeans&#039; opinions, i find myself being biased against Eun-Soo because that&#039;s all i hear.  i don&#039;t hate Eun-Soo, but i definitely am not a huge fan of her character.  i&#039;m merely sticking with the show because of the sub-plots.  and the voice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks for this discussion!  while i&#8217;m kind of in the middle of both of your views, its great to hear another side.  while i love hearing Javabeans&#8217; opinions, i find myself being biased against Eun-Soo because that&#8217;s all i hear.  i don&#8217;t hate Eun-Soo, but i definitely am not a huge fan of her character.  i&#8217;m merely sticking with the show because of the sub-plots.  and the voice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 05:50:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The song is awesome anyways.</description>
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<p>The song is awesome anyways.</p>
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		<title>By: jb</title>
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		<dc:creator>jb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow...sigh...envy...the two of you really have a way with words...I almost believe between the two of you, you can influence how the world sees kdrama!!!! 

Dramabeans, I hope you can continue to put up &#039;My Sweet Seoul&#039;  episode summaries. One, you write so well and I love reading your stuff. Two, I don&#039;t speak Korean and I have been watching &#039;unsubbed&#039; episodes but still loving the premise of it and always waiting patiently for your writeup. But now, Youtube/Veoh have taken the episodes off so I am totally cut off from this series.

...Sob...strong anti-Eun Soo feelings aside, could you please continue to write the summaries...I know I am not alone...right? Anyway, as always, you have been wonderful - every posting, every word, keep it up dear! Have a good week ahead..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow&#8230;sigh&#8230;envy&#8230;the two of you really have a way with words&#8230;I almost believe between the two of you, you can influence how the world sees kdrama!!!! </p>
<p>Dramabeans, I hope you can continue to put up &#8216;My Sweet Seoul&#8217;  episode summaries. One, you write so well and I love reading your stuff. Two, I don&#8217;t speak Korean and I have been watching &#8216;unsubbed&#8217; episodes but still loving the premise of it and always waiting patiently for your writeup. But now, Youtube/Veoh have taken the episodes off so I am totally cut off from this series.</p>
<p>&#8230;Sob&#8230;strong anti-Eun Soo feelings aside, could you please continue to write the summaries&#8230;I know I am not alone&#8230;right? Anyway, as always, you have been wonderful &#8211; every posting, every word, keep it up dear! Have a good week ahead..</p>
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		<title>By: Kiongna</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2008/07/point-counterpoint-in-defense-of-eun-soo/comment-page-1/#comment-50886</link>
		<dc:creator>Kiongna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*High Fives* dear Dahee..!  I&#039;m totally with you on this one...I just couldn&#039;t understand why dear Javabeans and Thundie couldn&#039;t take to Eun Soo or more like Choi Kang Hee&#039;s portrayal of Eun Soo - I find her so endearing in all her faults... and I never once though her selfish...somewhat blur, wanting to please too much, timid sometimes and falling into small potholes here and there loads of times - and many times not intentionally...aisah.. I do feel for her...

Can&#039;t wait to see her progress with THE VOICE - ohhhhhhhhhhh producers, writer - DO NOT, I reiterate DO NOT pull a fast one on us Eun Soo and Young Soo shippers and DO NOT I repeat DO NOT do some !@##$$%%% ending (that was like no ending!!) like that of some bodyguards drama aigooooo a lorry of tomatoes would like not be enough to do my baseball practice on ya! (LOL I don&#039;t even play baseball!! LOL)

I so like how Eun Soo and Young Soo&#039;s slow, gentle progress into their relationship...every second - PRECIOUS...all the pauses..the simple words..LOVE em

AJA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*High Fives* dear Dahee..!  I&#8217;m totally with you on this one&#8230;I just couldn&#8217;t understand why dear Javabeans and Thundie couldn&#8217;t take to Eun Soo or more like Choi Kang Hee&#8217;s portrayal of Eun Soo &#8211; I find her so endearing in all her faults&#8230; and I never once though her selfish&#8230;somewhat blur, wanting to please too much, timid sometimes and falling into small potholes here and there loads of times &#8211; and many times not intentionally&#8230;aisah.. I do feel for her&#8230;</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t wait to see her progress with THE VOICE &#8211; ohhhhhhhhhhh producers, writer &#8211; DO NOT, I reiterate DO NOT pull a fast one on us Eun Soo and Young Soo shippers and DO NOT I repeat DO NOT do some !@##$$%%% ending (that was like no ending!!) like that of some bodyguards drama aigooooo a lorry of tomatoes would like not be enough to do my baseball practice on ya! (LOL I don&#8217;t even play baseball!! LOL)</p>
<p>I so like how Eun Soo and Young Soo&#8217;s slow, gentle progress into their relationship&#8230;every second &#8211; PRECIOUS&#8230;all the pauses..the simple words..LOVE em</p>
<p>AJA</p>
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		<title>By: bethany</title>
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		<dc:creator>bethany</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 22:16:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>super fun! these are definitely interesting... thought provoking~</description>
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<p>super fun! these are definitely interesting&#8230; thought provoking~</p>
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