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		<title>By: Ruthy</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/01/park-shin-yang-criticized-by-netizen-sbs-denies-involvement/#comment-107269</link>
		<dc:creator>Ruthy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Apr 2009 06:51:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh, this is not good for losing a one of a kind man, a man who have everything, great talent and nice personality. they should not do that foolish decision, because many people truly like and admired him due to his professionalism in terms of acting. His acting skills were very admirable. so please do support him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh, this is not good for losing a one of a kind man, a man who have everything, great talent and nice personality. they should not do that foolish decision, because many people truly like and admired him due to his professionalism in terms of acting. His acting skills were very admirable. so please do support him.</p>
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		<title>By: 4thDimensional</title>
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		<dc:creator>4thDimensional</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 09:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can someone research what other top actors are making or asking for??? I mean those in PSy&#039;s status?

Also how many actors actually sued based on their written contracts denied to them?

Also, Kdramas are major money making for Korea&#039;s Economy, so can someone figure these out???</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone research what other top actors are making or asking for??? I mean those in PSy&#8217;s status?</p>
<p>Also how many actors actually sued based on their written contracts denied to them?</p>
<p>Also, Kdramas are major money making for Korea&#8217;s Economy, so can someone figure these out???</p>
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		<title>By: foreigner</title>
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		<dc:creator>foreigner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Mar 2009 01:18:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t know, i kind of couldn&#039;t get SBS&#039;s point......
if they keep on banning PSY, other TV stations or movie company will want to recruit him when they could.
and if i were PSY, i would play even harder to demonstrate my ability for a better chance of big success, and that is definitely not going to work for the place once tried to ban me....
so.....what&#039;s the purpose for?
they want to save money, in order to lose other chances that can earn money?
i know PSY&#039;s pay is not inexpensive; however, his dramas lasted, right?
if they count on the following money PSY might make, they will know his values.</description>
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<p>i don&#8217;t know, i kind of couldn&#8217;t get SBS&#8217;s point&#8230;&#8230;<br />
if they keep on banning PSY, other TV stations or movie company will want to recruit him when they could.<br />
and if i were PSY, i would play even harder to demonstrate my ability for a better chance of big success, and that is definitely not going to work for the place once tried to ban me&#8230;.<br />
so&#8230;..what&#8217;s the purpose for?<br />
they want to save money, in order to lose other chances that can earn money?<br />
i know PSY&#8217;s pay is not inexpensive; however, his dramas lasted, right?<br />
if they count on the following money PSY might make, they will know his values.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 22:06:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I lost sleep last night.

To Berny: Thanks for your insights; they are logical!

If you want to help escalate your unanswered voices on this ban matter, please visit:
http://cb4py.wordpress.com/about/
This is a brand new site trying to take the counter ban voices one level higher so it&#039;s felt by the broadcasting stations.

Be prepared to work like crazy if you choose to help out but it&#039;s worth it if you believe you can help. 

This site is accepting suggestions / comments for 3 days, until midnight Jan 11, 2009 (EST).  Then it will finalize on all action items and set a schedule to achieve the &quot;impossible&quot; on Feb 5. 2009.

Dear javabeans, may I boldly (&quot;뻔뻔&quot;) ask you to please put up a small post in your hot site; your referral will be dearly treasured and remembered; you have a very wide fan base and they listen to you!  :)   Only if you feel like.  Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I lost sleep last night.</p>
<p>To Berny: Thanks for your insights; they are logical!</p>
<p>If you want to help escalate your unanswered voices on this ban matter, please visit:<br />
<a href="http://cb4py.wordpress.com/about/" rel="nofollow">http://cb4py.wordpress.com/about/</a><br />
This is a brand new site trying to take the counter ban voices one level higher so it&#8217;s felt by the broadcasting stations.</p>
<p>Be prepared to work like crazy if you choose to help out but it&#8217;s worth it if you believe you can help. </p>
<p>This site is accepting suggestions / comments for 3 days, until midnight Jan 11, 2009 (EST).  Then it will finalize on all action items and set a schedule to achieve the &#8220;impossible&#8221; on Feb 5. 2009.</p>
<p>Dear javabeans, may I boldly (&#8221;뻔뻔&#8221;) ask you to please put up a small post in your hot site; your referral will be dearly treasured and remembered; you have a very wide fan base and they listen to you!  <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />    Only if you feel like.  Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Berny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 08:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To : JEAN

Hi Jean, thanks for the insights and comments too. I’m really glad you believe in PSY too.

My knowledge of the entire situation is also quite limited, and I had just a personal understanding about it on the articles I have read online.   But I hope his supporters can be vigilant because in some parts of the world, an actor like PSY is never and should never be treated like this.  They should give him the respect he deserves.  

I support him because:
1.  He’s a brilliant actor  2. He’s a professional and he gives his best performance in every project.  3.  He has surpassed a lot of challenges in his life.

I’ve never really read about the exact stand of SBS or their exact official statement, but obviously that station is the source of this all and then it was backed up by the KTDPCA.

This could be how it happened ?  (please correct me if I’ve made a mistake somewhere):

1.	For the past few years, there was no FIXED BASIS/ SYSTEM  FOR COMPUTATION on actor’s fee, and was confounded by the influx of  outsourced productions and corporate sponsorships.  “Free Contract Deals” became the “IN” thing.

2.	So I think it was in this “scenario” that the CONTRACT of PSY and SBS has been signed. (based on what I’ve read there is a contract signed ! ).

3.	Then the global crisis became serious.

4.	SBS then might have tried to re-negotiate with PSY, and perhaps proposed a settlement out of the contract (relying on other instances  where other top actors volunteered to have their fee cut).

5.	PSY might have (this is purely my personal hunch, it might not be accurate) declined because perhaps SBS cannot present him a valid system for the fee reduction…like the percentage basis etc…since according to the KBI they have not come up with a fixed system yet.  And led to the filing of that lawsuit.

So SBS, KYDPCA retaliated and the rest as they say is history.

If there is indeed a legal contract signed, PSY has the right to take legal action and counter-sue.  I just hope both parties settle this out of court.  But they have to lift the BAN first!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To : JEAN</p>
<p>Hi Jean, thanks for the insights and comments too. I’m really glad you believe in PSY too.</p>
<p>My knowledge of the entire situation is also quite limited, and I had just a personal understanding about it on the articles I have read online.   But I hope his supporters can be vigilant because in some parts of the world, an actor like PSY is never and should never be treated like this.  They should give him the respect he deserves.  </p>
<p>I support him because:<br />
1.  He’s a brilliant actor  2. He’s a professional and he gives his best performance in every project.  3.  He has surpassed a lot of challenges in his life.</p>
<p>I’ve never really read about the exact stand of SBS or their exact official statement, but obviously that station is the source of this all and then it was backed up by the KTDPCA.</p>
<p>This could be how it happened ?  (please correct me if I’ve made a mistake somewhere):</p>
<p>1.	For the past few years, there was no FIXED BASIS/ SYSTEM  FOR COMPUTATION on actor’s fee, and was confounded by the influx of  outsourced productions and corporate sponsorships.  “Free Contract Deals” became the “IN” thing.</p>
<p>2.	So I think it was in this “scenario” that the CONTRACT of PSY and SBS has been signed. (based on what I’ve read there is a contract signed ! ).</p>
<p>3.	Then the global crisis became serious.</p>
<p>4.	SBS then might have tried to re-negotiate with PSY, and perhaps proposed a settlement out of the contract (relying on other instances  where other top actors volunteered to have their fee cut).</p>
<p>5.	PSY might have (this is purely my personal hunch, it might not be accurate) declined because perhaps SBS cannot present him a valid system for the fee reduction…like the percentage basis etc…since according to the KBI they have not come up with a fixed system yet.  And led to the filing of that lawsuit.</p>
<p>So SBS, KYDPCA retaliated and the rest as they say is history.</p>
<p>If there is indeed a legal contract signed, PSY has the right to take legal action and counter-sue.  I just hope both parties settle this out of court.  But they have to lift the BAN first!</p>
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		<title>By: Jean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now I fully understand why I can&#039;t be a lawyer... coz my head hurts after reading Berny&#039;s comments.  :)

To Berny:  thank you for your insight!

Please help correct my elaboration on your comments if I misread you:

In banning PSY (but not Bae Yong Jun):

1) is the KTDPCA trying to get all the broadcasting stations to revert back to the &quot;pay grade&quot; system for all actors (actresses alike) so the outsourcing production companies have a pay scale to follow how much to pay to the actors - is that what they&#039;re going to do; and 

2) if there&#039;s additional income from sponsors / overseas then that money will be the sole benefit of the the production company (assuming it can close such  sponsorship deal without the broadcasting station) and a list of predefined (don&#039;t ask me who or how this list is set) top-star(s) involved will get additional rewards?

And one thing I am still unsure:  the ultimate reason why this production company didn&#039;t pay up in the first place:  was it because SBS (which aired the Money&#039;s Warfare and the bonus round) couldn&#039;t cough up with the money in the first place or was it because production company over-estimated the sponsorships it would get for the bonus round - that we&#039;re talking about around July 2007 when the economy was blooming bright?  I really want to know if SBS is behind this or not...  perhaps this is a super naive question?...

And most importantly to me on this matter really, who can override this ban, how else can we help, do you know?   Anyone?

For those interested in reading the article Berny kindly mentioned and nicely summarized:
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/art/2008/12/201_35806.html

Re: this article, I think I saw news on Kwon Sang-woo voluntarily reduced his pay before PSY got the ban, but I also think that that was for his new work.  In Park&#039;s case, his agency started this lawsuit way before the economy flopped (I think in July 2008 but don&#039;t quote me).  There&#039;s no indication on whether Song Seung-heon did his &quot;cut&quot; / changed his compensation method for the East of Eden before or after PSY got the ban.   I realize the reporter didn&#039;t quote PSY&#039;s ban in the article, but this article (Dec 9, 08) came out right after the ban was announced so the association or even worse, implied comparison was obvious (anyone who thinks it&#039;s not that obvious?).  Having these actors and their nice gestures referenced, it made PSY look like he desersed the ban because he didn&#039;t drop the lawsuit, and this makes me more angry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now I fully understand why I can&#8217;t be a lawyer&#8230; coz my head hurts after reading Berny&#8217;s comments.  <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>To Berny:  thank you for your insight!</p>
<p>Please help correct my elaboration on your comments if I misread you:</p>
<p>In banning PSY (but not Bae Yong Jun):</p>
<p>1) is the KTDPCA trying to get all the broadcasting stations to revert back to the &#8220;pay grade&#8221; system for all actors (actresses alike) so the outsourcing production companies have a pay scale to follow how much to pay to the actors &#8211; is that what they&#8217;re going to do; and </p>
<p>2) if there&#8217;s additional income from sponsors / overseas then that money will be the sole benefit of the the production company (assuming it can close such  sponsorship deal without the broadcasting station) and a list of predefined (don&#8217;t ask me who or how this list is set) top-star(s) involved will get additional rewards?</p>
<p>And one thing I am still unsure:  the ultimate reason why this production company didn&#8217;t pay up in the first place:  was it because SBS (which aired the Money&#8217;s Warfare and the bonus round) couldn&#8217;t cough up with the money in the first place or was it because production company over-estimated the sponsorships it would get for the bonus round &#8211; that we&#8217;re talking about around July 2007 when the economy was blooming bright?  I really want to know if SBS is behind this or not&#8230;  perhaps this is a super naive question?&#8230;</p>
<p>And most importantly to me on this matter really, who can override this ban, how else can we help, do you know?   Anyone?</p>
<p>For those interested in reading the article Berny kindly mentioned and nicely summarized:<br />
<a href="http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/art/2008/12/201_35806.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/art/2008/12/201_35806.html</a></p>
<p>Re: this article, I think I saw news on Kwon Sang-woo voluntarily reduced his pay before PSY got the ban, but I also think that that was for his new work.  In Park&#8217;s case, his agency started this lawsuit way before the economy flopped (I think in July 2008 but don&#8217;t quote me).  There&#8217;s no indication on whether Song Seung-heon did his &#8220;cut&#8221; / changed his compensation method for the East of Eden before or after PSY got the ban.   I realize the reporter didn&#8217;t quote PSY&#8217;s ban in the article, but this article (Dec 9, 08) came out right after the ban was announced so the association or even worse, implied comparison was obvious (anyone who thinks it&#8217;s not that obvious?).  Having these actors and their nice gestures referenced, it made PSY look like he desersed the ban because he didn&#8217;t drop the lawsuit, and this makes me more angry.</p>
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		<title>By: Berny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Berny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 10:25:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Better Understand the PSY situation

Globally, indeed, there is a financial crisis. BUT still, what the Korea Television Drama Production Company Association (KTDPCA) did to PSY was too extreme and clearly there was much injustice here. I want to believe that in South Korea people uphold a “democratic” way of life….much opposite to that of the North. So why is it that the KTDPCA didn’t not even give much consideration for a proper “negotiations” first before acting harshly. Because in any broadcasting industry there are bylaws promulgated to protect equally the production companies and the actors. Laws and regulations are done after a consensus, KTDPCA can’t just decide on a new ruling just because they feel like it.

The crisis is also not PSY’s fault. You know why? Because it was recently posted in The Korea Times, that even Ha Yun geum (of the Korean Broadcasting Institute) admitted that the TV industry needs a “stable” and “effective” system in managing the money paid to actors. They even had to hold the seminar “The Crisis of TV Dramas and Normalization of Performance Fees,” to come up with possible solutions. So clearly, when the crisis hit them nobody was prepared ! No clear rules were set up yet. So where did that KTDPCA based their decision to ban PSY. Crazy right?

The instability of the payment system according to this article was caused by the following conflicting factors:

1. The “cash support” given to Major Networks  VS.  that given to Outsourcing Productions.

2. The actors’ fee computation based on the Grading System  VS.  Free Contract Deals

3. Unregulated sponsorships offered by businesses to the TV dramas.


So everyone has been the victim of the non-system they themselves have created. It’s like a “free for all” “anything goes” kind of system. So I think, that it was on this chaotic situation that PSY wanted to defend what is rightfully his.

Okey there are actors, like Kwon Sang-woo, who “voluntary” offered to have his fees lowered. That was really very good of them…but without a fixed system, how far do you think can this “voluntary thing” sustain for them? Financial crisis are volatile, it’s up, then it’s down, the up again. You can only volunteer for so long…in the long run if there will be no clear system to protect them …actors are going to jeopardize their own careers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Better Understand the PSY situation</p>
<p>Globally, indeed, there is a financial crisis. BUT still, what the Korea Television Drama Production Company Association (KTDPCA) did to PSY was too extreme and clearly there was much injustice here. I want to believe that in South Korea people uphold a “democratic” way of life….much opposite to that of the North. So why is it that the KTDPCA didn’t not even give much consideration for a proper “negotiations” first before acting harshly. Because in any broadcasting industry there are bylaws promulgated to protect equally the production companies and the actors. Laws and regulations are done after a consensus, KTDPCA can’t just decide on a new ruling just because they feel like it.</p>
<p>The crisis is also not PSY’s fault. You know why? Because it was recently posted in The Korea Times, that even Ha Yun geum (of the Korean Broadcasting Institute) admitted that the TV industry needs a “stable” and “effective” system in managing the money paid to actors. They even had to hold the seminar “The Crisis of TV Dramas and Normalization of Performance Fees,” to come up with possible solutions. So clearly, when the crisis hit them nobody was prepared ! No clear rules were set up yet. So where did that KTDPCA based their decision to ban PSY. Crazy right?</p>
<p>The instability of the payment system according to this article was caused by the following conflicting factors:</p>
<p>1. The “cash support” given to Major Networks  VS.  that given to Outsourcing Productions.</p>
<p>2. The actors’ fee computation based on the Grading System  VS.  Free Contract Deals</p>
<p>3. Unregulated sponsorships offered by businesses to the TV dramas.</p>
<p>So everyone has been the victim of the non-system they themselves have created. It’s like a “free for all” “anything goes” kind of system. So I think, that it was on this chaotic situation that PSY wanted to defend what is rightfully his.</p>
<p>Okey there are actors, like Kwon Sang-woo, who “voluntary” offered to have his fees lowered. That was really very good of them…but without a fixed system, how far do you think can this “voluntary thing” sustain for them? Financial crisis are volatile, it’s up, then it’s down, the up again. You can only volunteer for so long…in the long run if there will be no clear system to protect them …actors are going to jeopardize their own careers.</p>
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