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		<title>By: hjkomo</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/06/open-thread-88/comment-page-4/#comment-126935</link>
		<dc:creator>hjkomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 15:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn. I gotta get me the dvds.
But then, I&#039;d need to find a way to hole myself up for a couple weeks. ;)

Haha...IKEA....&lt;i&gt;avoid it like the plague.&lt;/i&gt; :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn. I gotta get me the dvds.<br />
But then, I&#8217;d need to find a way to hole myself up for a couple weeks. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Haha&#8230;IKEA&#8230;.<i>avoid it like the plague.</i> <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Samsooki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samsooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 13:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Choi Siwon .... he even looks like Rick Hunter.  Great pick.

Yoo Ji-tae, I am not sure.  Roy is the &quot;hyung&quot; or &quot;big brother,&quot; but doesn&#039;t have to be taller or physically larger.  He just has to have the personality, the wisdom, the skill, the knowledge, patience, discipline and love to be the older big brother.  He&#039;s sort of a static character though.  Him and Claudia, the template for all happy marriages which end in tragedy as Roy gets mortally wounded in a battle against the Zentradi aliens and chooses to spend his last moments with his wife rather than in a hospital room.  

The death scene would be just incredible.  Roy, every now and then, wiping blood from his mouth surreptitiously, in the other room, just lightly strumming a Spanish instrumental love song on his beat up guitar while Claudia chats away, talking about this and that, making a pineapple salad (Roy&#039;s favorite), and the Roy smiles slightly, tears streaming down his face as he watches Claudia happily making her dish, then Roy&#039;s eyes close and the guitar stops, and Claudia doesn&#039;t realize it right away.... and then she does.... omg.

Kim Haneul sound about right for Lisa Hayes.  She got that lonely insecure perfectionist role down pat.

Oohhh, and Tae Yeon (SNSD) as Minmei .... just about perfect.  She has the voice, the moves, the face and personality.  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Choi Siwon &#8230;. he even looks like Rick Hunter.  Great pick.</p>
<p>Yoo Ji-tae, I am not sure.  Roy is the &#8220;hyung&#8221; or &#8220;big brother,&#8221; but doesn&#8217;t have to be taller or physically larger.  He just has to have the personality, the wisdom, the skill, the knowledge, patience, discipline and love to be the older big brother.  He&#8217;s sort of a static character though.  Him and Claudia, the template for all happy marriages which end in tragedy as Roy gets mortally wounded in a battle against the Zentradi aliens and chooses to spend his last moments with his wife rather than in a hospital room.  </p>
<p>The death scene would be just incredible.  Roy, every now and then, wiping blood from his mouth surreptitiously, in the other room, just lightly strumming a Spanish instrumental love song on his beat up guitar while Claudia chats away, talking about this and that, making a pineapple salad (Roy&#8217;s favorite), and the Roy smiles slightly, tears streaming down his face as he watches Claudia happily making her dish, then Roy&#8217;s eyes close and the guitar stops, and Claudia doesn&#8217;t realize it right away&#8230;. and then she does&#8230;. omg.</p>
<p>Kim Haneul sound about right for Lisa Hayes.  She got that lonely insecure perfectionist role down pat.</p>
<p>Oohhh, and Tae Yeon (SNSD) as Minmei &#8230;. just about perfect.  She has the voice, the moves, the face and personality.  </p>
<p>Great choices!!</p>
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		<title>By: Samsooki</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/06/open-thread-88/comment-page-4/#comment-126903</link>
		<dc:creator>Samsooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 12:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hjkomo!  oohhhhh, so unfair!  :)

i have a Soompi recap project going on, I got Star In My Heart (still only on Ep 3 because I grow tired of the poor orphan girl who gets beaten down by rich step sister in law story line, even if it is the O.G. of story lines), City Hall to finish, Partner to start, Friend:  The Legend to start, 2 Outs In The Bottom of the Ninth, a ton of billable hours to make up, I got a wife who wants to go to IKEA but I really don&#039;t want to go.....  


JB,

Yes, you are right about the casting.  I wasn&#039;t really thinking too hard about it.  Sort of lazy in terms of who I chose.  hehe, i apologize for the bad casting, but i still have to say that I adore (present tense) Robotech.

AND I will say, I have the collection of Robotech.  It cost ... well, more than I care to admit because there were so many episodes, but it was worth it.  When I was sick a few years ago, I had a 3-4 day binge and I just ate slept and watched my series - drove my wife crazy and she decided to go shopping every day as revenge against me taking over the TV.

Robotech really was the original Korean drama series.

It wasn&#039;t about robots, or technology, or advanced weaponry (although it had transforming robots that was unbelievably cool).  It was about whether warring peoples could find a way to live together.  It was about finding peace during war.  It was about breaking boundaries between races, among ethnicities.  It was about young love, and about mature love, about family and sacrifice and dreams.

Robotech was about finding your identity (remember when Marlene was injured during a battle with the Invid, and she found that her blood was green (meaning that she was actually an Invid) not red, and she was devastated because all of her adult memories were of fighting the Invid and hating them.... and then finding out that she was actually an Invid spy whose mission had to be scrubbed when she lost her memories....)  That kind of storyline just BLEW my mind as a kid.  It was like they invented mature story lines with transforming robot fighter planes and mecha.  I was soooo stunned by that development and I spent days trying to think about what would happen if I was battling the Invid and then I found that my blood was green too?  Would I switch sides?  Would I still fight against the Invid?  Would I just cry and lose my mind?  What to think?

....while all other cartoons were like Tom and Jerry, or Smurfs, or even GI Joe (which made no sense) or even Voltron (which made a little more sense, but still, like, so unrealistic), Robotech was dealing with racism, classism, sexism, love triangles, answering questions like who is family,  what is the meaning of love, how do we get to peace when everybody wants war.  And the OST.  And the battle scenes.  Can you even compare it against any other cartoon ever?

Robotech was the original korean drama series.  I loved it then, I love it now, THIS is why I love korean dramas - it is the same thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hjkomo!  oohhhhh, so unfair!  <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>i have a Soompi recap project going on, I got Star In My Heart (still only on Ep 3 because I grow tired of the poor orphan girl who gets beaten down by rich step sister in law story line, even if it is the O.G. of story lines), City Hall to finish, Partner to start, Friend:  The Legend to start, 2 Outs In The Bottom of the Ninth, a ton of billable hours to make up, I got a wife who wants to go to IKEA but I really don&#8217;t want to go&#8230;..  </p>
<p>JB,</p>
<p>Yes, you are right about the casting.  I wasn&#8217;t really thinking too hard about it.  Sort of lazy in terms of who I chose.  hehe, i apologize for the bad casting, but i still have to say that I adore (present tense) Robotech.</p>
<p>AND I will say, I have the collection of Robotech.  It cost &#8230; well, more than I care to admit because there were so many episodes, but it was worth it.  When I was sick a few years ago, I had a 3-4 day binge and I just ate slept and watched my series &#8211; drove my wife crazy and she decided to go shopping every day as revenge against me taking over the TV.</p>
<p>Robotech really was the original Korean drama series.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t about robots, or technology, or advanced weaponry (although it had transforming robots that was unbelievably cool).  It was about whether warring peoples could find a way to live together.  It was about finding peace during war.  It was about breaking boundaries between races, among ethnicities.  It was about young love, and about mature love, about family and sacrifice and dreams.</p>
<p>Robotech was about finding your identity (remember when Marlene was injured during a battle with the Invid, and she found that her blood was green (meaning that she was actually an Invid) not red, and she was devastated because all of her adult memories were of fighting the Invid and hating them&#8230;. and then finding out that she was actually an Invid spy whose mission had to be scrubbed when she lost her memories&#8230;.)  That kind of storyline just BLEW my mind as a kid.  It was like they invented mature story lines with transforming robot fighter planes and mecha.  I was soooo stunned by that development and I spent days trying to think about what would happen if I was battling the Invid and then I found that my blood was green too?  Would I switch sides?  Would I still fight against the Invid?  Would I just cry and lose my mind?  What to think?</p>
<p>&#8230;.while all other cartoons were like Tom and Jerry, or Smurfs, or even GI Joe (which made no sense) or even Voltron (which made a little more sense, but still, like, so unrealistic), Robotech was dealing with racism, classism, sexism, love triangles, answering questions like who is family,  what is the meaning of love, how do we get to peace when everybody wants war.  And the OST.  And the battle scenes.  Can you even compare it against any other cartoon ever?</p>
<p>Robotech was the original korean drama series.  I loved it then, I love it now, THIS is why I love korean dramas &#8211; it is the same thing.</p>
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		<title>By: hjkomo</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/06/open-thread-88/comment-page-4/#comment-126864</link>
		<dc:creator>hjkomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 08:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah...JB, I remember squeeling when you made that post (but that was back in my lurking days).

Choi Siwon would make an EXCELLENT Rick Hunter!
And I could definitely see Yoo Ji Tae as his older brother...but who would be his Claudia?

Hm...Kim Haneul...lonely inside - yes...but cranky noona? She wasn&#039;t really cranky with Kim Jae Won in Romance.
Maybe, Son Ye Jin? I could see her cranky. ;)

Any word on the remake?

You and Samsooki should just write the kdrama version. :D
&#039;Cause who knows when Jajangmyun Space Odyssey&#039;s gonna get off the ground... ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah&#8230;JB, I remember squeeling when you made that post (but that was back in my lurking days).</p>
<p>Choi Siwon would make an EXCELLENT Rick Hunter!<br />
And I could definitely see Yoo Ji Tae as his older brother&#8230;but who would be his Claudia?</p>
<p>Hm&#8230;Kim Haneul&#8230;lonely inside &#8211; yes&#8230;but cranky noona? She wasn&#8217;t really cranky with Kim Jae Won in Romance.<br />
Maybe, Son Ye Jin? I could see her cranky. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Any word on the remake?</p>
<p>You and Samsooki should just write the kdrama version. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
&#8216;Cause who knows when Jajangmyun Space Odyssey&#8217;s gonna get off the ground&#8230; <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: javabeans</title>
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		<dc:creator>javabeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, jumping in the fake-casting thing:

Rick has to be impulsive and reckless and immature, so give it to an idol star like Choi Siwon who would totally go for the selfish starlet before realizing his noona Lisa is where it&#039;s at.

Roy has to be older, &quot;bigger&quot; than Rick in maturity and in physical presence, so someone like Yoo Ji-tae. 

Lisa has to be believable as the cranky noona and very perfectionist but lonely inside, so she&#039;s got to be an older, more seasoned actress like... a really dressed-down Kim Haneul? 

Minmei has to be super young, selfish, cute, flighty, love-to-hate her -- so a bubbly idol star like Tae Yeon would be perfect!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, jumping in the fake-casting thing:</p>
<p>Rick has to be impulsive and reckless and immature, so give it to an idol star like Choi Siwon who would totally go for the selfish starlet before realizing his noona Lisa is where it&#8217;s at.</p>
<p>Roy has to be older, &#8220;bigger&#8221; than Rick in maturity and in physical presence, so someone like Yoo Ji-tae. </p>
<p>Lisa has to be believable as the cranky noona and very perfectionist but lonely inside, so she&#8217;s got to be an older, more seasoned actress like&#8230; a really dressed-down Kim Haneul? </p>
<p>Minmei has to be super young, selfish, cute, flighty, love-to-hate her &#8212; so a bubbly idol star like Tae Yeon would be perfect!</p>
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		<title>By: javabeans</title>
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		<dc:creator>javabeans</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 02:01:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse me? 

THERE IS A ROBOTECH DISCUSSION AND I AM NOT A PART OF IT?!?!?!

Ahem. Might I direct you all to this? http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/09/excuse-the-squealing-nine-year-old-girl-blame-anime/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse me? </p>
<p>THERE IS A ROBOTECH DISCUSSION AND I AM NOT A PART OF IT?!?!?!</p>
<p>Ahem. Might I direct you all to this? <a href="http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/09/excuse-the-squealing-nine-year-old-girl-blame-anime/" rel="nofollow">http://www.dramabeans.com/2007/09/excuse-the-squealing-nine-year-old-girl-blame-anime/</a></p>
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		<title>By: hjkomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hjkomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 01:22:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. Robotech was probably one of my earliest drama addictions...and I say &lt;i&gt;drama&lt;/i&gt;, yes, because it had everything you&#039;d look for. Damn, my brother and I were glued to the TV for all three seasons.

A kdrama remake would be TOTALLY AWESOME!!!

But I&#039;m surprised you wouldn&#039;t want Kang Ji Hwan as Rick Hunter. o_O
And how about Son Ye Jin as Claudia?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Robotech was probably one of my earliest drama addictions&#8230;and I say <i>drama</i>, yes, because it had everything you&#8217;d look for. Damn, my brother and I were glued to the TV for all three seasons.</p>
<p>A kdrama remake would be TOTALLY AWESOME!!!</p>
<p>But I&#8217;m surprised you wouldn&#8217;t want Kang Ji Hwan as Rick Hunter. o_O<br />
And how about Son Ye Jin as Claudia?</p>
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		<title>By: Samsooki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samsooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 04:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@186 hjkomo -

&lt;em&gt;&quot;Job Well Done started out interesting…..then the writers went all crazy and makjang (in a not-addictive sort of way)…enough said.

And thanks for the Robotech nostalgia.&quot; &lt;/em&gt;


Job Well Done.... I honestly can&#039;t figure out any of the characters.  They are from Planet Mitchissuh.  I love Jung Ae Ri (Temptation of Wife) as Seung Hun&#039;s mom and of course Chae Rim rocks, but everybody in this drama is taking crazy pills and I can&#039;t understand anyone&#039;s motivation.

Ahhhhhh  Robotech... first love triangle I ever saw .....  Lisa Hayes, Min Mae and Rick Hunter....   LOL!  Robotech should be remade into a Korean drama.

Lisa Hayes .......... played by Han Ga In.
Lynn Min Mei ...... played by mmm.... Yoon Eun Hye.
Rick Hunter ......... played by Yoon Kye Sang.
Roy Fokker .......... played by Hwang Jung Min
Admiral Gloval .... played by Choi Il Hwa 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@186 hjkomo -</p>
<p><em>&#8220;Job Well Done started out interesting…..then the writers went all crazy and makjang (in a not-addictive sort of way)…enough said.</p>
<p>And thanks for the Robotech nostalgia.&#8221; </em></p>
<p>Job Well Done&#8230;. I honestly can&#8217;t figure out any of the characters.  They are from Planet Mitchissuh.  I love Jung Ae Ri (Temptation of Wife) as Seung Hun&#8217;s mom and of course Chae Rim rocks, but everybody in this drama is taking crazy pills and I can&#8217;t understand anyone&#8217;s motivation.</p>
<p>Ahhhhhh  Robotech&#8230; first love triangle I ever saw &#8230;..  Lisa Hayes, Min Mae and Rick Hunter&#8230;.   LOL!  Robotech should be remade into a Korean drama.</p>
<p>Lisa Hayes &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. played by Han Ga In.<br />
Lynn Min Mei &#8230;&#8230; played by mmm&#8230;. Yoon Eun Hye.<br />
Rick Hunter &#8230;&#8230;&#8230; played by Yoon Kye Sang.<br />
Roy Fokker &#8230;&#8230;&#8230;. played by Hwang Jung Min<br />
Admiral Gloval &#8230;. played by Choi Il Hwa </p>
<p>hehe</p>
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		<title>By: langdon813</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 02:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@186, hjkomo

I&#039;m definitely watching True Blood and definitely agree about Stephen Moyer!  I&#039;m a big fan of the books and I think all of the casting for the show is pretty spot-on. I&#039;m having to treat them as two entirely different things though, since the show is starting to bear zero resemblance to the books! 

Alan Ball is a genius; I still miss Six Feet Under. 

2 eps into City Hall, heading into the 3rd!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@186, hjkomo</p>
<p>I&#8217;m definitely watching True Blood and definitely agree about Stephen Moyer!  I&#8217;m a big fan of the books and I think all of the casting for the show is pretty spot-on. I&#8217;m having to treat them as two entirely different things though, since the show is starting to bear zero resemblance to the books! </p>
<p>Alan Ball is a genius; I still miss Six Feet Under. </p>
<p>2 eps into City Hall, heading into the 3rd!</p>
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		<title>By: hjkomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hjkomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 01:44:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Samsooki

Job Well Done started out interesting.....then the writers went all crazy and makjang (in a not-addictive sort of way)...enough said.

And thanks for the Robotech nostalgia. :D

________

Someone in the Ask Javabeans thread mentioned True Blood, and I had meant to ask if anyone else was watching it. Stephen Moyer&#039;s delectable (much more than his Ultraviolet days), and Alan Ball&#039;s always up to something good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Samsooki</p>
<p>Job Well Done started out interesting&#8230;..then the writers went all crazy and makjang (in a not-addictive sort of way)&#8230;enough said.</p>
<p>And thanks for the Robotech nostalgia. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>________</p>
<p>Someone in the Ask Javabeans thread mentioned True Blood, and I had meant to ask if anyone else was watching it. Stephen Moyer&#8217;s delectable (much more than his Ultraviolet days), and Alan Ball&#8217;s always up to something good.</p>
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