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		<title>By: kb</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jul 2009 02:09:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>samsooki 130

whoa, that clip looks awesome.  

i remember when i was litlle, i would have a nightly one-on-one death match between my two storm shadows before i went to bed.  the one without the broken thumb always won.</description>
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<p>whoa, that clip looks awesome.  </p>
<p>i remember when i was litlle, i would have a nightly one-on-one death match between my two storm shadows before i went to bed.  the one without the broken thumb always won.</p>
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		<title>By: langdon813</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 22:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, crap. 

I&#039;ve been out of town for two days with very limited internet access (SO much reading to catch up on here) and came home to an email that Dramafever has changed the player on their wonderful, fantastic, addictive, awesome site that I visit EVERY SINGLE DAY...and of course I can&#039;t download the new player because of the restrictions on my laptop (company computer).

OH MY GOD!!!

I am going to need rehab...not to mention psychiatric care. Seriously, I&#039;m so upset. And not one single person in my life will get why this is such a big freaking deal to me. 

:-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, crap. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been out of town for two days with very limited internet access (SO much reading to catch up on here) and came home to an email that Dramafever has changed the player on their wonderful, fantastic, addictive, awesome site that I visit EVERY SINGLE DAY&#8230;and of course I can&#8217;t download the new player because of the restrictions on my laptop (company computer).</p>
<p>OH MY GOD!!!</p>
<p>I am going to need rehab&#8230;not to mention psychiatric care. Seriously, I&#8217;m so upset. And not one single person in my life will get why this is such a big freaking deal to me. </p>
<p> <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Samsooki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samsooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Jul 2009 20:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GI JOE exclusive clip WITH an LBH speaking line!

This movie looks like it totally rocks.  For this kind of film, there is no thinking or reflection or time to think about sociological and / or ethnic, racial or other considerations, or wonder whether asian-american should get more meaningful roles on tv and on the big screen.  If the entire movie is like this, then I am thrilled and excited, and I will see it twice in the theatre, then buy the DVD.  The second time I watch, I would have to watch it alone, to re-live the period of my life where if I had cooler parents I would have had GI Joe action figures:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RziPkSWPWrs

(LBH&#039;s english is pretty good!)</description>
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<p>This movie looks like it totally rocks.  For this kind of film, there is no thinking or reflection or time to think about sociological and / or ethnic, racial or other considerations, or wonder whether asian-american should get more meaningful roles on tv and on the big screen.  If the entire movie is like this, then I am thrilled and excited, and I will see it twice in the theatre, then buy the DVD.  The second time I watch, I would have to watch it alone, to re-live the period of my life where if I had cooler parents I would have had GI Joe action figures:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RziPkSWPWrs" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RziPkSWPWrs</a></p>
<p>(LBH&#8217;s english is pretty good!)</p>
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		<title>By: lb_tmi</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 16:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in Save the last dance, more should have been developed between Eun soo and the Dr. there was potential for so much more in that relationship!! 

and the OST ROCKS!!! i LOVE edward chun&#039;s voice. AMAZING! all the songs are so beautiful... i still listen to it at least once a week on my mp3. (but i only found it for DL about 4 months ago). 

My love Patzzi.. i bought for the sole purpose of Kim Rae Won. i think i&#039;ve said numerous times, i&#039;m quite shallow... i LOVE staring at good-looking guys... it&#039;s a plus that these guys are talented. i think i would have liked the drama better if i didn&#039;t have to concentrate so hard on figuring out the subtitles... they were horrible! my understanding is that the korean is translated to chinese, then chinese translated to simple english... so ALOT is lost in translation. it&#039;s been a while since i watched it, but from what i can remember, the bad girl was a real sneaky witch... and something about dolphins and scraping up poo! LOL!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>in Save the last dance, more should have been developed between Eun soo and the Dr. there was potential for so much more in that relationship!! </p>
<p>and the OST ROCKS!!! i LOVE edward chun&#8217;s voice. AMAZING! all the songs are so beautiful&#8230; i still listen to it at least once a week on my mp3. (but i only found it for DL about 4 months ago). </p>
<p>My love Patzzi.. i bought for the sole purpose of Kim Rae Won. i think i&#8217;ve said numerous times, i&#8217;m quite shallow&#8230; i LOVE staring at good-looking guys&#8230; it&#8217;s a plus that these guys are talented. i think i would have liked the drama better if i didn&#8217;t have to concentrate so hard on figuring out the subtitles&#8230; they were horrible! my understanding is that the korean is translated to chinese, then chinese translated to simple english&#8230; so ALOT is lost in translation. it&#8217;s been a while since i watched it, but from what i can remember, the bad girl was a real sneaky witch&#8230; and something about dolphins and scraping up poo! LOL!</p>
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		<title>By: epyc</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 14:45:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Samsooki and lb_tmi 

Thanks for sharing your view on New Heart.  Perhaps I&#039;ll pick it up again when I have the time.  Save the Last Dance is actually pretty good - it is a very well-done cliche drama.  Highly watchable is how I&#039;d describe it.  In fact, I think I watched it more than once.  Both Eugene and Ji Jung are so gorgeous in it and their actings are not bad at all.    KJH, of course, is the added bonus as the doctor admirer of Eugene (and his scenes are those I could re-watch more than once, especially the one where he comes to pick up Eugene for their first date). 

I like My Love Patzzi too.  Jang Nara is lovely in this drama together with Kim Rae Won.  I&#039;d always prefer her quirky character and acting here than her other more famous drama: the Successful Delightful Girl (?).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Samsooki and lb_tmi </p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your view on New Heart.  Perhaps I&#8217;ll pick it up again when I have the time.  Save the Last Dance is actually pretty good &#8211; it is a very well-done cliche drama.  Highly watchable is how I&#8217;d describe it.  In fact, I think I watched it more than once.  Both Eugene and Ji Jung are so gorgeous in it and their actings are not bad at all.    KJH, of course, is the added bonus as the doctor admirer of Eugene (and his scenes are those I could re-watch more than once, especially the one where he comes to pick up Eugene for their first date). </p>
<p>I like My Love Patzzi too.  Jang Nara is lovely in this drama together with Kim Rae Won.  I&#8217;d always prefer her quirky character and acting here than her other more famous drama: the Successful Delightful Girl (?).</p>
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		<title>By: Samsooki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samsooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@126 lb_tmi - Jul 21, 2009 at 2:05 pm 

&lt;em&gt;Save the Last Dance is one of 3 dramas i actually own (the others being Green Rose and My Love Patzzi). I have watched and re-watched it over and over again… more than i ever thought i would, and have come up with only this… I am completely shallow. i can’t get passed *MY* Ji Sung’s lips. i thought he was wonderful as Changho, i thought the first 3-4 eps were very well acted by Ji Sung. I didn’t like him as much as Hyunwoo, but that was probably because of the story line. i do have to agree with you on the point that Sujin was one of the best “i love him, can’t leave him, but i’ll never be w/ him because of the main girl” characters. 

New Heart, i watched it when it first started airing… i think i’m on around ep 9 or so. But i have to disagree, i think the Dr. Choi steals every scene he is in. his presence is so strong.. at least so far that i’ve watched… i will pick it up again JUST for Ji Sung tho. &lt;/em&gt;


1.  Okay, I own Save The Last Dance For Me, one of our very very first purchases of k-dramas ever.  We started watching k-dramas in January 2009, and our first purchase was MNIKSS and our second DVD set purchase was Save The Last Dance For Me.  I bought it because I liked Eugene when she was a member of SES.  Anyway, the soundtrack is killer!  Edward Chun, duuuuuuude!  So, this drama has a very special place on our DVD shelf, and even though the drama itself wasn&#039;t that awesome, it is still immensely watchable and it is a favorite of mine.

2.  New Heart - Dr. Choi is a scene stealer, no doubt.  But, to me, it&#039;s a side story.  As with most dramas, New Heart is a love story and about the road that is travelled by Ji Sung and Hesok girl (played by Kim Min Jung).  I thought the first part of the drama (before Ep 11) was kind of about the hospital and to me that&#039;s just not as interesting because it is just a bunch of cllches walking around and butting heads.  

The story really really really comes to life at the end of Ep 10 and Ep 11-15 is just great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@126 lb_tmi &#8211; Jul 21, 2009 at 2:05 pm </p>
<p><em>Save the Last Dance is one of 3 dramas i actually own (the others being Green Rose and My Love Patzzi). I have watched and re-watched it over and over again… more than i ever thought i would, and have come up with only this… I am completely shallow. i can’t get passed *MY* Ji Sung’s lips. i thought he was wonderful as Changho, i thought the first 3-4 eps were very well acted by Ji Sung. I didn’t like him as much as Hyunwoo, but that was probably because of the story line. i do have to agree with you on the point that Sujin was one of the best “i love him, can’t leave him, but i’ll never be w/ him because of the main girl” characters. </p>
<p>New Heart, i watched it when it first started airing… i think i’m on around ep 9 or so. But i have to disagree, i think the Dr. Choi steals every scene he is in. his presence is so strong.. at least so far that i’ve watched… i will pick it up again JUST for Ji Sung tho. </em></p>
<p>1.  Okay, I own Save The Last Dance For Me, one of our very very first purchases of k-dramas ever.  We started watching k-dramas in January 2009, and our first purchase was MNIKSS and our second DVD set purchase was Save The Last Dance For Me.  I bought it because I liked Eugene when she was a member of SES.  Anyway, the soundtrack is killer!  Edward Chun, duuuuuuude!  So, this drama has a very special place on our DVD shelf, and even though the drama itself wasn&#8217;t that awesome, it is still immensely watchable and it is a favorite of mine.</p>
<p>2.  New Heart &#8211; Dr. Choi is a scene stealer, no doubt.  But, to me, it&#8217;s a side story.  As with most dramas, New Heart is a love story and about the road that is travelled by Ji Sung and Hesok girl (played by Kim Min Jung).  I thought the first part of the drama (before Ep 11) was kind of about the hospital and to me that&#8217;s just not as interesting because it is just a bunch of cllches walking around and butting heads.  </p>
<p>The story really really really comes to life at the end of Ep 10 and Ep 11-15 is just great.</p>
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		<title>By: lb_tmi</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 21:05:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ samsookie

Save the Last Dance is one of 3 dramas i actually own (the others being Green Rose and My Love Patzzi). I have watched and re-watched it over and over again... more than i ever thought i would, and have come up with only this... I am completely shallow. i can&#039;t get passed *MY* Ji Sung&#039;s lips. i thought he was wonderful as Changho, i thought the first 3-4 eps were very well acted by Ji Sung. I didn&#039;t like him as much as Hyunwoo, but that was probably because of the story line. i do have to agree with you on the point that Sujin was one of the best &quot;i love him, can&#039;t leave him, but i&#039;ll never be w/ him because of the main girl&quot; characters. 

New Heart, i watched it when it first started airing... i think i&#039;m on around ep 9 or so. But i have to disagree, i think the Dr. Choi steals every scene he is in. his presence is so strong.. at least so far that i&#039;ve watched... i will pick it up again JUST for Ji Sung tho. 


@ langdon813

chaebol is sugar daddy or husband? i already got me a husband, and lemme tell ya, he&#039;s a disappointment... can&#039;t handle any of this kdrama obsession by his wife. i may need to get hooked up w/ a sugar daddy so that me and my mama can fuel the obsession some more... which part of the world should we attack, i mean look for this sugar daddy? and whip them bros of mine in shape... have them obtain a sugar mama to support my mama and me!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ samsookie</p>
<p>Save the Last Dance is one of 3 dramas i actually own (the others being Green Rose and My Love Patzzi). I have watched and re-watched it over and over again&#8230; more than i ever thought i would, and have come up with only this&#8230; I am completely shallow. i can&#8217;t get passed *MY* Ji Sung&#8217;s lips. i thought he was wonderful as Changho, i thought the first 3-4 eps were very well acted by Ji Sung. I didn&#8217;t like him as much as Hyunwoo, but that was probably because of the story line. i do have to agree with you on the point that Sujin was one of the best &#8220;i love him, can&#8217;t leave him, but i&#8217;ll never be w/ him because of the main girl&#8221; characters. </p>
<p>New Heart, i watched it when it first started airing&#8230; i think i&#8217;m on around ep 9 or so. But i have to disagree, i think the Dr. Choi steals every scene he is in. his presence is so strong.. at least so far that i&#8217;ve watched&#8230; i will pick it up again JUST for Ji Sung tho. </p>
<p>@ langdon813</p>
<p>chaebol is sugar daddy or husband? i already got me a husband, and lemme tell ya, he&#8217;s a disappointment&#8230; can&#8217;t handle any of this kdrama obsession by his wife. i may need to get hooked up w/ a sugar daddy so that me and my mama can fuel the obsession some more&#8230; which part of the world should we attack, i mean look for this sugar daddy? and whip them bros of mine in shape&#8230; have them obtain a sugar mama to support my mama and me!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Samsooki</title>
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		<dc:creator>Samsooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 17:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@123, epyc

I am very surprised.

Usually, I am pretty good about judging dramas early on, as to whether I would like it.  And I didn&#039;t really like New Heart all that much as I started watching around episode 3 or 4 or maybe it was 5.  They all sort of ran together and there really wasn&#039;t much that was that interesting.

And I didn&#039;t really feel the chemistry between the main leads.

But two nights ago, I finished Cinderella Man&#039;s last two episodes by going onto dramafever.com and just skipping through it to finish it.  And i thought i could do the same with New Heart.  (Actually, I really thought I was only a few episodes from finishing).  But when I got to dramafever.com last night, I found that I was only on like Ep 9 or 10 of the series!   I had no idea, since the television series on MBC America doesn&#039;t list which episode you are on.  I just thought it was almost over.  But it was just getting started and I was kind of depressed because I hate just dropping a series and not finishing it.  So, I thought I could just watch maybe 5-10 minutes of each episode to see how it ends.

But starting Ep 11, they got their act together and the script, the acting, the directing, the music, everything came together.  And I said, &quot;&lt;em&gt;hmmm!  what&#039;s this that is catching my eye, making me proscrastinate from doing my  BON subbing and the 30 other things I have to do tonight.... maybe i&#039;ll just watch this one episode and then get back to work... &lt;/em&gt;&quot;

Then, about 4-5 hours later, well past my bedtime, I found myself finishing Ep 15, and thinking, dang, where did my time go?

LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@123, epyc</p>
<p>I am very surprised.</p>
<p>Usually, I am pretty good about judging dramas early on, as to whether I would like it.  And I didn&#8217;t really like New Heart all that much as I started watching around episode 3 or 4 or maybe it was 5.  They all sort of ran together and there really wasn&#8217;t much that was that interesting.</p>
<p>And I didn&#8217;t really feel the chemistry between the main leads.</p>
<p>But two nights ago, I finished Cinderella Man&#8217;s last two episodes by going onto dramafever.com and just skipping through it to finish it.  And i thought i could do the same with New Heart.  (Actually, I really thought I was only a few episodes from finishing).  But when I got to dramafever.com last night, I found that I was only on like Ep 9 or 10 of the series!   I had no idea, since the television series on MBC America doesn&#8217;t list which episode you are on.  I just thought it was almost over.  But it was just getting started and I was kind of depressed because I hate just dropping a series and not finishing it.  So, I thought I could just watch maybe 5-10 minutes of each episode to see how it ends.</p>
<p>But starting Ep 11, they got their act together and the script, the acting, the directing, the music, everything came together.  And I said, &#8220;<em>hmmm!  what&#8217;s this that is catching my eye, making me proscrastinate from doing my  BON subbing and the 30 other things I have to do tonight&#8230;. maybe i&#8217;ll just watch this one episode and then get back to work&#8230; </em>&#8221;</p>
<p>Then, about 4-5 hours later, well past my bedtime, I found myself finishing Ep 15, and thinking, dang, where did my time go?</p>
<p>LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: langdon813</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:56:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@119, lb_tmi

Sorry, my child...you have two long-lost brothers who are currently draining me dry financially. Although they have moved away from home, they haven&#039;t quite figured out the whole &quot;live within your means&quot; concept.

So unfortunately I must now ask you, in true Kdrama fashion...can you please work 2 or 3 extra jobs and send your poor web-mom some money to help with HER Kdrama addiction?

Look on the bright side...by doing this you&#039;re almost guaranteed to snag yourself a gorgeous chaebol, thus cementing both of our positions (and cash flow problems) for life. 

Love ya!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@119, lb_tmi</p>
<p>Sorry, my child&#8230;you have two long-lost brothers who are currently draining me dry financially. Although they have moved away from home, they haven&#8217;t quite figured out the whole &#8220;live within your means&#8221; concept.</p>
<p>So unfortunately I must now ask you, in true Kdrama fashion&#8230;can you please work 2 or 3 extra jobs and send your poor web-mom some money to help with HER Kdrama addiction?</p>
<p>Look on the bright side&#8230;by doing this you&#8217;re almost guaranteed to snag yourself a gorgeous chaebol, thus cementing both of our positions (and cash flow problems) for life. </p>
<p>Love ya!</p>
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		<title>By: epyc</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jul 2009 06:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Samsooki

Would love to hear your review of New Heart after you finish it.  I started half of Ep 1 and then dropped out although every now and then people are saying it is quite alright.  I dropped Good Job Good Job after about 15 episodes.  The first six or seven episodes are really lovely as a heartwarming family drama and I love most of the characters (ie until the mum turns to a different person).  For the love of Chae Rim, I sustained a little bit longer....

There is no way on this earth that I would even start Cinderella Man, though!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Samsooki</p>
<p>Would love to hear your review of New Heart after you finish it.  I started half of Ep 1 and then dropped out although every now and then people are saying it is quite alright.  I dropped Good Job Good Job after about 15 episodes.  The first six or seven episodes are really lovely as a heartwarming family drama and I love most of the characters (ie until the mum turns to a different person).  For the love of Chae Rim, I sustained a little bit longer&#8230;.</p>
<p>There is no way on this earth that I would even start Cinderella Man, though!</p>
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