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	<description>Deconstructing korean dramas and kpop culture</description>
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		<title>By: PaymnTawtaw</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/10/open-thread-104/comment-page-6/#comment-225252</link>
		<dc:creator>PaymnTawtaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Apr 2010 22:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>serve the world for no honest use; therefore you
But, as I think,--for truly would I speak,
&#039;spare not me?&#039; Indeed your &#039;O Lord, sir!&#039; is very
When in a wood of Crete they bay&#039;d the bear
Clown  O Lord, sir! spare not me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>serve the world for no honest use; therefore you<br />
But, as I think,&#8211;for truly would I speak,<br />
&#8216;spare not me?&#8217; Indeed your &#8216;O Lord, sir!&#8217; is very<br />
When in a wood of Crete they bay&#8217;d the bear<br />
Clown  O Lord, sir! spare not me.</p>
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		<title>By: Aster</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/10/open-thread-104/comment-page-6/#comment-161182</link>
		<dc:creator>Aster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 15:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all!  IRIS is truly amazing and You&#039;re Beautiful, very entertaining so I definitely recommend those two.  Watch out for Smile, You - all the characters are so incredibly annoying - from the tyrant Grandpa down to the disrespectful mechanic assistant - ugh!  I just had to quit!

Have a great weekend everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all!  IRIS is truly amazing and You&#8217;re Beautiful, very entertaining so I definitely recommend those two.  Watch out for Smile, You &#8211; all the characters are so incredibly annoying &#8211; from the tyrant Grandpa down to the disrespectful mechanic assistant &#8211; ugh!  I just had to quit!</p>
<p>Have a great weekend everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: mookie</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/10/open-thread-104/comment-page-6/#comment-161095</link>
		<dc:creator>mookie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 08:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like IRIS ep2 more... it&#039;s growing on me (not that ep1 was not good).  If some scenes were given better editing (end of ep1, beginning of ep 2... draggy for me) I&#039;ll even like it more. 

on KTH though, I think she&#039;s serviceable in IRIS and cant be more gorgeous, the writing and the directing is tailoring to her capabilities well.  I don&#039;t find her buggy because the storyline will clearly be heavy on LBH.  She&#039;s never going to win any credible acting awards...which I think she is smart enough to know.  But again, she&#039;s dazzlingly gorgeous which is a requirement for the character.  The prob I have is she looks way younger than her age, she still looks like a fresh college grad at most, let alone the boss of the guys....and LBH, JJH look their real age, esp jarring when next to KTH.  I think we&#039;re being harsher on her because she&#039;s a girl, SSH has exactly the same amt of acting chops, but we cut him slacks thro the years because we can drool all over him..... and he got an acting award for just being his insanely gorgeous self.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like IRIS ep2 more&#8230; it&#8217;s growing on me (not that ep1 was not good).  If some scenes were given better editing (end of ep1, beginning of ep 2&#8230; draggy for me) I&#8217;ll even like it more. </p>
<p>on KTH though, I think she&#8217;s serviceable in IRIS and cant be more gorgeous, the writing and the directing is tailoring to her capabilities well.  I don&#8217;t find her buggy because the storyline will clearly be heavy on LBH.  She&#8217;s never going to win any credible acting awards&#8230;which I think she is smart enough to know.  But again, she&#8217;s dazzlingly gorgeous which is a requirement for the character.  The prob I have is she looks way younger than her age, she still looks like a fresh college grad at most, let alone the boss of the guys&#8230;.and LBH, JJH look their real age, esp jarring when next to KTH.  I think we&#8217;re being harsher on her because she&#8217;s a girl, SSH has exactly the same amt of acting chops, but we cut him slacks thro the years because we can drool all over him&#8230;.. and he got an acting award for just being his insanely gorgeous self.</p>
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		<title>By: langdon813</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/10/open-thread-104/comment-page-6/#comment-160934</link>
		<dc:creator>langdon813</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 22:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>YO, IRIS!

I...I&#039;M REALLY HAPPY FOR YOU WITH THEM HUGE RATINGS AND ALL, BUT IMMA HAFTA HIT YOU BACK LATER, CAUSE YOU&#039;RE BEAUTFUL MIGHT JUST BE ONE OF THE BEST DRAMAS OF ALL TIME!

ONE OF THE BEST DRAMAS OF ALL TIME!!

shrug....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>YO, IRIS!</p>
<p>I&#8230;I&#8217;M REALLY HAPPY FOR YOU WITH THEM HUGE RATINGS AND ALL, BUT IMMA HAFTA HIT YOU BACK LATER, CAUSE YOU&#8217;RE BEAUTFUL MIGHT JUST BE ONE OF THE BEST DRAMAS OF ALL TIME!</p>
<p>ONE OF THE BEST DRAMAS OF ALL TIME!!</p>
<p>shrug&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: lb_tmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>lb_tmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this thread is still going on so strong.. i feel like i&#039;ve been missing out.. 

i&#039;m so jumping on the YB bandwagon and torturing myself w/ the waiting for the next episode to air having a tantrum... starting tomorrow :-p

i just LOVE the OST for YB... i dl&#039;ed it this morning.. and i have it on repeat along w/ the OST for Tamra the Island. funny.. i&#039;ve not watched either of these dramas, but love the OSTs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this thread is still going on so strong.. i feel like i&#8217;ve been missing out.. </p>
<p>i&#8217;m so jumping on the YB bandwagon and torturing myself w/ the waiting for the next episode to air having a tantrum&#8230; starting tomorrow :-p</p>
<p>i just LOVE the OST for YB&#8230; i dl&#8217;ed it this morning.. and i have it on repeat along w/ the OST for Tamra the Island. funny.. i&#8217;ve not watched either of these dramas, but love the OSTs.</p>
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		<title>By: langdon813</title>
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		<dc:creator>langdon813</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 16:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@260, ockoala

I feel bad about trying to steal JGS from you, but as soon as I saw that little Pebbles and Bam Bam ponytail on top of his head, it was beyond my power to control. 

That, and the &quot;I will NOT hug her back, I WILL NOT hug her back, NO NO NO I WON&#039;T DO IT&quot; pose with his arms up in the air. 

OMG, now I have to go watch it again. :-D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@260, ockoala</p>
<p>I feel bad about trying to steal JGS from you, but as soon as I saw that little Pebbles and Bam Bam ponytail on top of his head, it was beyond my power to control. </p>
<p>That, and the &#8220;I will NOT hug her back, I WILL NOT hug her back, NO NO NO I WON&#8217;T DO IT&#8221; pose with his arms up in the air. </p>
<p>OMG, now I have to go watch it again. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':-D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: hjkomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hjkomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>^ Thanks for the TGTBTW rating. I&#039;m looking for something to watch with my nephew this weekend...&lt;i&gt;two birds, one stone&lt;i&gt;...I always feel bad watching drama episodes because he doesn&#039;t get to watch the entire series, so I thought I might try a movie.

@ langdon813

Of course, I&#039;ve seen Cranford....and everything else that&#039;s made it&#039;s way over here from the BBC. :D
What&#039;s with all the hot British men portraying villains on Robin Hood? First, Richard Armitage, and now, Toby Stephens?

@ gracefulmoonie

I rewatch all my favorite BBC period dramas at least once a year. Hubby always knows when I get into my period-fix-mode - &quot;You&#039;re watching this &lt;i&gt;again&lt;/i&gt;?! Haven&#039;t you seen it like 100 times?&quot;

Romola Garai in a new Emma production? Can&#039;t wait until it airs here. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>^ Thanks for the TGTBTW rating. I&#8217;m looking for something to watch with my nephew this weekend&#8230;<i>two birds, one stone</i><i>&#8230;I always feel bad watching drama episodes because he doesn&#8217;t get to watch the entire series, so I thought I might try a movie.</p>
<p>@ langdon813</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;ve seen Cranford&#8230;.and everything else that&#8217;s made it&#8217;s way over here from the BBC. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
What&#8217;s with all the hot British men portraying villains on Robin Hood? First, Richard Armitage, and now, Toby Stephens?</p>
<p>@ gracefulmoonie</p>
<p>I rewatch all my favorite BBC period dramas at least once a year. Hubby always knows when I get into my period-fix-mode &#8211; &#8220;You&#8217;re watching this </i><i>again</i>?! Haven&#8217;t you seen it like 100 times?&#8221;</p>
<p>Romola Garai in a new Emma production? Can&#8217;t wait until it airs here. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ockoala</title>
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		<dc:creator>ockoala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:44:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ hjkomo

Welcome back, and I hope you continue to get better!  Everyone at work is sick as well, I&#039;ve been lucky (knock on e-wood) so far.  I have a business trip to Boston next week, and praying for good health throughout.

&quot;@ ockoala – sorry you had to endure the Mane of Distress and KTH. Unfortunately, she has not improved in Iris. LBH is emoting through every pore on his body, while KTH reciprocates with a blank stare.&quot;

D*mn......^*&amp;%^&amp;$^%&amp;*(HJVGJI^&amp;*%^*$%*^(*&amp;U........  I&#039;ve been hesitating to watch IRIS, because the recent photos of scenes involving KTH, I see her stare in full action, and it makes me pissed/distressed, because it really is one of two reasons I am probably NOT going to watch IRIS during it&#039;s initial run, but will wait until it&#039;s done airing.  I&#039;m hoping either she or LBH dies in the end, then I&#039;ll watch.

The other reason is - I am so in love with You&#039;re Beautiful (a drama I had below zero expectations of once they started releasing promos), that I&#039;m suddenly in the rom-com mood, and cannot for the life of me (even as a card-carrying member of the Drool Team) want to switch genres and watch IRIS.  I&#039;m actually wanting to watch my darling Junki in HERO, and making those 2 dramas my commitment this fall.

I stand to be persuaded otherwise - also, I&#039;m kinda contrarian, IRIS is doing blockbuster numbers, I kinda want to help the underdogs.....

As for TGTBTW, landgon described it perfectly, but I think it&#039;s suitable for a 12 year old, but that depends on the 12 year old.  The more mature one would be fine, still a kiddo, I would skip.

@ kdxmel

Please don&#039;t ask anything about HGD, because I&#039;ll be tempted to answer you - and that would spoil and detract from the ride.  Enjoy!

@ langdon-unni

*humph* so now, it&#039;s not enough you&#039;ve got Kim Bum on your babycakes train, you want to add my cutie Jang Geun-soek, who I&#039;ve been fangirling mommy-like since his Hwang Jin-Yi days......well, you can borrow him, but remember I called dibs 2 years ago!  He&#039;s cute and a good actor, isn&#039;t he?  =-)  I pretend not to see him in any other incarnation other than his dramas, as JGS in real life is......odd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ hjkomo</p>
<p>Welcome back, and I hope you continue to get better!  Everyone at work is sick as well, I&#8217;ve been lucky (knock on e-wood) so far.  I have a business trip to Boston next week, and praying for good health throughout.</p>
<p>&#8220;@ ockoala – sorry you had to endure the Mane of Distress and KTH. Unfortunately, she has not improved in Iris. LBH is emoting through every pore on his body, while KTH reciprocates with a blank stare.&#8221;</p>
<p>D*mn&#8230;&#8230;^*&amp;%^&amp;$^%&amp;*(HJVGJI^&amp;*%^*$%*^(*&amp;U&#8230;&#8230;..  I&#8217;ve been hesitating to watch IRIS, because the recent photos of scenes involving KTH, I see her stare in full action, and it makes me pissed/distressed, because it really is one of two reasons I am probably NOT going to watch IRIS during it&#8217;s initial run, but will wait until it&#8217;s done airing.  I&#8217;m hoping either she or LBH dies in the end, then I&#8217;ll watch.</p>
<p>The other reason is &#8211; I am so in love with You&#8217;re Beautiful (a drama I had below zero expectations of once they started releasing promos), that I&#8217;m suddenly in the rom-com mood, and cannot for the life of me (even as a card-carrying member of the Drool Team) want to switch genres and watch IRIS.  I&#8217;m actually wanting to watch my darling Junki in HERO, and making those 2 dramas my commitment this fall.</p>
<p>I stand to be persuaded otherwise &#8211; also, I&#8217;m kinda contrarian, IRIS is doing blockbuster numbers, I kinda want to help the underdogs&#8230;..</p>
<p>As for TGTBTW, landgon described it perfectly, but I think it&#8217;s suitable for a 12 year old, but that depends on the 12 year old.  The more mature one would be fine, still a kiddo, I would skip.</p>
<p>@ kdxmel</p>
<p>Please don&#8217;t ask anything about HGD, because I&#8217;ll be tempted to answer you &#8211; and that would spoil and detract from the ride.  Enjoy!</p>
<p>@ langdon-unni</p>
<p>*humph* so now, it&#8217;s not enough you&#8217;ve got Kim Bum on your babycakes train, you want to add my cutie Jang Geun-soek, who I&#8217;ve been fangirling mommy-like since his Hwang Jin-Yi days&#8230;&#8230;well, you can borrow him, but remember I called dibs 2 years ago!  He&#8217;s cute and a good actor, isn&#8217;t he?  =-)  I pretend not to see him in any other incarnation other than his dramas, as JGS in real life is&#8230;&#8230;odd.</p>
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		<title>By: samsooki</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@255 hjkomo -

My opinion is that average (American) 12 year olds can watch the good the bad and the weird with little to no issues (by the time they are 12, they will have seen way more violent and/or graphic imagery, but as always, it depends on the child and the parent).

The more important issue is how to guide children through the torrent of daily images and information from all sorts of sources, to give them foundation and balance among social / moral / ethical / cultural / generational mores, and what they see and read and watch and listen to.

:)

Personally, as good as the korean movie was (and is), I would recommend watching the original film, The Good, The Bad and the Ugly instead.  It is a better film, imo, although it put my wife to sleep due to its inordinate length (I think it tops 3 hours).  The original spaghetti western is a fantastic story and the acting is tremendous.  One of Clint Eastwood&#039;s best acting roles ever.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@255 hjkomo -</p>
<p>My opinion is that average (American) 12 year olds can watch the good the bad and the weird with little to no issues (by the time they are 12, they will have seen way more violent and/or graphic imagery, but as always, it depends on the child and the parent).</p>
<p>The more important issue is how to guide children through the torrent of daily images and information from all sorts of sources, to give them foundation and balance among social / moral / ethical / cultural / generational mores, and what they see and read and watch and listen to.</p>
<p> <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Personally, as good as the korean movie was (and is), I would recommend watching the original film, The Good, The Bad and the Ugly instead.  It is a better film, imo, although it put my wife to sleep due to its inordinate length (I think it tops 3 hours).  The original spaghetti western is a fantastic story and the acting is tremendous.  One of Clint Eastwood&#8217;s best acting roles ever.</p>
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		<title>By: langdon813</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@255, hjkomo

TGTBTW has some pretty violent scenes; there&#039;s no nudity or sex (sad for us but not so much for the 12-year old). We do get a very nice, very gratuitous scene of LBH in his underwear!

But the violence is pretty rough, although it&#039;s handled in a very over-the-top manner. When I first watched it I compared it to O Brother Where Art Thou meets Pulp Fiction, if that tells you anything. There&#039;s a cool Tarantino-ish / Coen Brothers vibe to it.  Some absolutely BRILLIANT chase scenes. 

I love North and South. Richard Armitage...the ONLY reason I watch Robin Hood on BBCA! Cranford is wonderful too, have you seen that?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@255, hjkomo</p>
<p>TGTBTW has some pretty violent scenes; there&#8217;s no nudity or sex (sad for us but not so much for the 12-year old). We do get a very nice, very gratuitous scene of LBH in his underwear!</p>
<p>But the violence is pretty rough, although it&#8217;s handled in a very over-the-top manner. When I first watched it I compared it to O Brother Where Art Thou meets Pulp Fiction, if that tells you anything. There&#8217;s a cool Tarantino-ish / Coen Brothers vibe to it.  Some absolutely BRILLIANT chase scenes. </p>
<p>I love North and South. Richard Armitage&#8230;the ONLY reason I watch Robin Hood on BBCA! Cranford is wonderful too, have you seen that?</p>
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