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		<title>By: Samsooki</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/10/open-thread-105/comment-page-5/#comment-163135</link>
		<dc:creator>Samsooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:20:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@kb:

yeap, kms hairplay rox.  it is a bit on the pricey side, but wow, it works well.  Just use a tiny blip tho.

what i do is wet my hands first, then i take a tiny blip of hairplay and then i am able to spread out over two hands evenly.

also, if you want a bit more of a shinier &quot;freeze&quot; look, you can combine a bit of kms with a tiny bit of normal &quot;mega&quot; hairgel, and voila.  Remember to blow out your hair with cold air not hot air, for a shinier look.

@hjkomo -

bleh... 

1.  I was so not expecting what happened at the end of Ep 24 of HGD.  You must take take 책임 (責任) for what happened!  I will bring this up every open thread until you hand over all present and future rights to KJH and take 책임.

2.  Yeah, sleep is at a premium now, but, sleeping is soooo secondary now.  =)))

@belleza -

You agreeing with me makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside.  =)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@kb:</p>
<p>yeap, kms hairplay rox.  it is a bit on the pricey side, but wow, it works well.  Just use a tiny blip tho.</p>
<p>what i do is wet my hands first, then i take a tiny blip of hairplay and then i am able to spread out over two hands evenly.</p>
<p>also, if you want a bit more of a shinier &#8220;freeze&#8221; look, you can combine a bit of kms with a tiny bit of normal &#8220;mega&#8221; hairgel, and voila.  Remember to blow out your hair with cold air not hot air, for a shinier look.</p>
<p>@hjkomo -</p>
<p>bleh&#8230; </p>
<p>1.  I was so not expecting what happened at the end of Ep 24 of HGD.  You must take take 책임 (責任) for what happened!  I will bring this up every open thread until you hand over all present and future rights to KJH and take 책임.</p>
<p>2.  Yeah, sleep is at a premium now, but, sleeping is soooo secondary now.  =)))</p>
<p>@belleza -</p>
<p>You agreeing with me makes me feel all warm and fuzzy on the inside.  =)</p>
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		<title>By: kb</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hjkomo

thanks for the explanation.

samsooki,

i like that song  a lot too,  and i haven&#039;t even seen the drama yet.  thank you for recommending it a while back.  any hope that dramafever will pick up HGD any time soon?  

as an aside, i finally got my hands on that kms hairplay you talked about before.  i was gonna wait until i used up the american crew pomade that i got a while back, but the pomade is so disappointing, i don&#039;t think  i will ever get through using all of it.  

that kms stuff is something else.  i don&#039;t think i will be able to use any other styling product from here onwards.   now i can really imitate the wavy/messy korean drama star hair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hjkomo</p>
<p>thanks for the explanation.</p>
<p>samsooki,</p>
<p>i like that song  a lot too,  and i haven&#8217;t even seen the drama yet.  thank you for recommending it a while back.  any hope that dramafever will pick up HGD any time soon?  </p>
<p>as an aside, i finally got my hands on that kms hairplay you talked about before.  i was gonna wait until i used up the american crew pomade that i got a while back, but the pomade is so disappointing, i don&#8217;t think  i will ever get through using all of it.  </p>
<p>that kms stuff is something else.  i don&#8217;t think i will be able to use any other styling product from here onwards.   now i can really imitate the wavy/messy korean drama star hair.</p>
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		<title>By: hjkomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hjkomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;OY, SAMSOOKI!!!!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;
You&#039;re never going to let that one go, are you?!
난 약속했다.
난 약속지켰다.
매롱!!!

Btw, shouldn&#039;t you be attempting to get &lt;b&gt;every second&lt;/b&gt; of sleep you can possibly manage? o_O</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i><b>OY, SAMSOOKI!!!!</b></i><br />
You&#8217;re never going to let that one go, are you?!<br />
난 약속했다.<br />
난 약속지켰다.<br />
매롱!!!</p>
<p>Btw, shouldn&#8217;t you be attempting to get <b>every second</b> of sleep you can possibly manage? o_O</p>
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		<title>By: belleza</title>
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		<dc:creator>belleza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 07:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Samsooki,

&quot;it turns out that it isn’t because she’s not that smart, that she can’t be with Gil Dong; rather, it is because of forces far beyond Yinok’s control that are causing all the issues.&quot;

I feel the same way about the meaning of that song.  That passage was really well done.  

I really, really love the song If.  For whatever reason, I actually liked Kim Yu-na&#039;s version a little bit better, note misses and all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxsk-US2Vws

@ockoala,

&quot;A lessor thespian, and a lessor kookier real life persona than JGS in real life, may be overwhelmed by the guyliner, ridiculous bordering on fruity-punk attire, and earlier hairdo-from-hell.&quot;

Yup, and that&#039;s the thing.  In real life, Zoolander&#039;s fashion sense is even wilder than this.  He&#039;s playing down to TK!!  ;)

(But I also feel that&#039;s kinda the point with Zoolander.  He should let out his inner freako in one of his roles.  Not this one, but definitely something else down the line.)  In any case, TK is a really, really well written part.  The characterization is very detailed and I think the Hong Sisters wrote it with him and a wink to Maestro Kang Mae.

&quot;2004 Yoon Eun-hye? &quot;

See, on paper, you would think so.  But the difference there is 2009 Park Shin Hye is already a seasoned actress, and her performance actually requires a lot of finesse in order to prevent the slapstick from going overboard.  2009 YEH (let alone 2004 YEH) is still kind of a ham; you feel like, at times, she&#039;s still conscious of the camera looking at her.  Park Shin Hye, not so much.

But admittedly I&#039;m partial to PSH because really she&#039;s the female equivalent of Jang Geon Seok.  She&#039;s 19 years old, but she&#039;s already a veteran entertainer.  She&#039;s done a daeha.  She&#039;s worked through daily drama.  She&#039;s done a number of Hallyu properties (probably should have been lead in Goong S.)  She&#039;s hosted variety and award shows.  She&#039;s released a single and her dancing chops rivals Son Dambi, if not BoA.  

&quot;2004 Han Ji-min is right after her almost nun turn as baby Song Hye-gyo….&quot;

I kinda wished Han Ji Min played adult Song Hye Kyo in All In.  Even 2009 Han Ji Min, who regardless of the role kinda gives off this Suffering Nun vibe, no matter what.  :D

One thing though . . . HJM still tightens up when she&#039;s doing close scenes with her male leads.  Her chemistry can be hit-and-miss because of that, and it&#039;s not a real surprise she does better with, erm, Ladies Men.  (I&#039;m looking at you So Ji Sup and Lee Seo Jin ;) )  Plus, she&#039;s not great at comedy.  She&#039;s on paper right for the character, but I don&#039;t know . . .

&quot;Lee Junki as 2004 Hwan Tae-kyung,&quot;

Lee Jung Ki as 2004 Hwan Tae Kyung is frankly . . .unfair.  It&#039;s like casting 2004 Jo In Sung to play Jung Pyo or 2004 Kwon Sang Woo to cry over a white piano in some random beach.  Oh wait, he really did do that.  O_o</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Samsooki,</p>
<p>&#8220;it turns out that it isn’t because she’s not that smart, that she can’t be with Gil Dong; rather, it is because of forces far beyond Yinok’s control that are causing all the issues.&#8221;</p>
<p>I feel the same way about the meaning of that song.  That passage was really well done.  </p>
<p>I really, really love the song If.  For whatever reason, I actually liked Kim Yu-na&#8217;s version a little bit better, note misses and all.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxsk-US2Vws" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxsk-US2Vws</a></p>
<p>@ockoala,</p>
<p>&#8220;A lessor thespian, and a lessor kookier real life persona than JGS in real life, may be overwhelmed by the guyliner, ridiculous bordering on fruity-punk attire, and earlier hairdo-from-hell.&#8221;</p>
<p>Yup, and that&#8217;s the thing.  In real life, Zoolander&#8217;s fashion sense is even wilder than this.  He&#8217;s playing down to TK!!  <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>(But I also feel that&#8217;s kinda the point with Zoolander.  He should let out his inner freako in one of his roles.  Not this one, but definitely something else down the line.)  In any case, TK is a really, really well written part.  The characterization is very detailed and I think the Hong Sisters wrote it with him and a wink to Maestro Kang Mae.</p>
<p>&#8220;2004 Yoon Eun-hye? &#8221;</p>
<p>See, on paper, you would think so.  But the difference there is 2009 Park Shin Hye is already a seasoned actress, and her performance actually requires a lot of finesse in order to prevent the slapstick from going overboard.  2009 YEH (let alone 2004 YEH) is still kind of a ham; you feel like, at times, she&#8217;s still conscious of the camera looking at her.  Park Shin Hye, not so much.</p>
<p>But admittedly I&#8217;m partial to PSH because really she&#8217;s the female equivalent of Jang Geon Seok.  She&#8217;s 19 years old, but she&#8217;s already a veteran entertainer.  She&#8217;s done a daeha.  She&#8217;s worked through daily drama.  She&#8217;s done a number of Hallyu properties (probably should have been lead in Goong S.)  She&#8217;s hosted variety and award shows.  She&#8217;s released a single and her dancing chops rivals Son Dambi, if not BoA.  </p>
<p>&#8220;2004 Han Ji-min is right after her almost nun turn as baby Song Hye-gyo….&#8221;</p>
<p>I kinda wished Han Ji Min played adult Song Hye Kyo in All In.  Even 2009 Han Ji Min, who regardless of the role kinda gives off this Suffering Nun vibe, no matter what.  <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>One thing though . . . HJM still tightens up when she&#8217;s doing close scenes with her male leads.  Her chemistry can be hit-and-miss because of that, and it&#8217;s not a real surprise she does better with, erm, Ladies Men.  (I&#8217;m looking at you So Ji Sup and Lee Seo Jin <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  )  Plus, she&#8217;s not great at comedy.  She&#8217;s on paper right for the character, but I don&#8217;t know . . .</p>
<p>&#8220;Lee Junki as 2004 Hwan Tae-kyung,&#8221;</p>
<p>Lee Jung Ki as 2004 Hwan Tae Kyung is frankly . . .unfair.  It&#8217;s like casting 2004 Jo In Sung to play Jung Pyo or 2004 Kwon Sang Woo to cry over a white piano in some random beach.  Oh wait, he really did do that.  O_o</p>
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		<title>By: kdxmel</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2009/10/open-thread-105/comment-page-5/#comment-163021</link>
		<dc:creator>kdxmel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 06:17:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw a very detailed explanation on how the header rotations work a while back but don&#039;t have the energy to dig it up...but I swear, I get CH banners at least twice a day, sometimes 5! (I counted).  I&#039;m not complaining :P  But I also think I&#039;m gonna come right out and start requesting for YB headers...just throwing it out there....</description>
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<p>I saw a very detailed explanation on how the header rotations work a while back but don&#8217;t have the energy to dig it up&#8230;but I swear, I get CH banners at least twice a day, sometimes 5! (I counted).  I&#8217;m not complaining <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />   But I also think I&#8217;m gonna come right out and start requesting for YB headers&#8230;just throwing it out there&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: mzpakipot</title>
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		<dc:creator>mzpakipot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 05:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>awwww......i have a CH Banner....i feel much better now. I don&#039;t have internet connection at my new place and I&#039;m piggybackriding right now..keke! I&#039;m always late for open thread, so I&#039;ll just say HAPPY ADVANCE OPEN THREAD everyone!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>awwww&#8230;&#8230;i have a CH Banner&#8230;.i feel much better now. I don&#8217;t have internet connection at my new place and I&#8217;m piggybackriding right now..keke! I&#8217;m always late for open thread, so I&#8217;ll just say HAPPY ADVANCE OPEN THREAD everyone!!</p>
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		<title>By: lovenyc52</title>
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		<dc:creator>lovenyc52</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:15:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ockoala - 
&quot;And am going insane with a certain kiss that ends episode 6 of YB. Roar of anger from ockoala!~&quot;

ya my head exploded after this. i had to pause, breathe, and play again.  i don&#039;t LIKE UEE DAMMIT!!!!!  i&#039;m also biased because i&#039;m not a fan of hers to begin with and then having her of all people play the &#039;evil girl&#039; role irks me even more ha.

but i am loving this show.  JGS does the angsty eyes so damn well and PSH is lovely and adorable.  i still cannot stop raving about how darn hilarious and adorable HongKi is too.. his expressions slay me.  There were so many awesome scenes in ep. 6.  i think one of my favorites had to be the manager&#039;s daydream of what happened with JGS, PSH and the taser. the audio to that killed me. pure &lt;3

now onto IRIS.... wait for me TOP..i&#039;m coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ockoala &#8211;<br />
&#8220;And am going insane with a certain kiss that ends episode 6 of YB. Roar of anger from ockoala!~&#8221;</p>
<p>ya my head exploded after this. i had to pause, breathe, and play again.  i don&#8217;t LIKE UEE DAMMIT!!!!!  i&#8217;m also biased because i&#8217;m not a fan of hers to begin with and then having her of all people play the &#8216;evil girl&#8217; role irks me even more ha.</p>
<p>but i am loving this show.  JGS does the angsty eyes so damn well and PSH is lovely and adorable.  i still cannot stop raving about how darn hilarious and adorable HongKi is too.. his expressions slay me.  There were so many awesome scenes in ep. 6.  i think one of my favorites had to be the manager&#8217;s daydream of what happened with JGS, PSH and the taser. the audio to that killed me. pure &lt;3</p>
<p>now onto IRIS&#8230;. wait for me TOP..i&#039;m coming.</p>
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		<title>By: samsooki</title>
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		<dc:creator>samsooki</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 04:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, it&#039;s anniversary week.  Exactly 20 weeks ago (see Open Thread #85), my wife and I finished HGD, and we saw the ending of HGD (ep 24) and I was shocked because hjkomo promised me one ending and we got a totally different ending than the one that hjkomo promised.  I was not ready for what I saw, but I liked it a lot regardless.  

Anyhoo, as I draft recaps, I like to listen to k-music (not completely surprising), and the k-music I like listening to, is k-drama OST music.  Sort of gets me in the recapping mood.  And one of my most fav k-drama OST songs is &quot;If&quot; by Tae-Yeon of SNSD, the title track to the Hong Gil Dong drama series.  But even though I&#039;ve listened to the song a thousand times, tonight I got a new take on the song.  

I don&#039;t think that I ever really paid attention to the lyrics; I just sort of liked the song and I liked how it meshed with the drama and the romance between Gil Dong and Yinok.  But now sort of a have a handle now on why I loved both the drama and the song.  Here are the lyrics to the song again, roughly translated by me:

&quot;If&quot; by Tae-Yeon.
&lt;em&gt;
If I should go, if I should get close to you,
What would your thoughts be?
But I don’t have the courage (to do so).

If you should go, if you should go ahead and leave,
How do I get myself to let you go?
I always get scared (to even think about it)

CHORUS:
Because I’m not very smart, I know all I can do is watch you from a distance
And it’s also because my heart which does not know how to do anything,
Might lead to us to being like strangers to each other.
Because I’m really dumb, I know that I don’t even know how to say that I love you
And the pain and sorrow that follows in the time after seeing you
Is what is frightening me so.

If you should come, if you should come all the way to me.
What would I have to do (in such a case)?
It is something truly unknowable to me.

Chorus
Repeat second half of chorus.&lt;/em&gt;

What is interesting is that this song is basically a dirge.  It&#039;s an expression of emotions based on a tragedy.  The song is about a girl who likes a boy, but the girl isn&#039;t that smart and so she believes that she has to stay away from him - first because she might screw up any possibility of a relationship, and also because she is afraid of feeling the sorrow that follows after seeing him.

It isn&#039;t that the girl is afraid of being rejected by Gil Dong per se, but since she isn&#039;t that smart, she can&#039;t figure things out to be confident enough to believe that things will work out.  It is SUCH an honest assessment of why she has to stay away.  Is it that only people who aren&#039;t so smart, end up being so brutually honest with themselves (i.e., smart people tend to fool themselves with justifications and distractions)?  If only everyone in the world were this honest with their feelings, how much better would the world be?

What is also interesting is that as smart as Gil Dong is, he too, has the same fears and the same inability to see into the future, to see what would happen if they did get together.  It isn&#039;t a matter of intelligence after all, but a matter of whether the lines of fate will allow them the chance to be together or not.  In a rather ironic way, the singer of the song is actually wrong - it turns out that it isn&#039;t because she&#039;s not that smart, that she can&#039;t be with Gil Dong; rather, it is because of forces far beyond Yinok&#039;s control that are causing all the issues.   

Hong Gil Dong may be an action fusion saguek fusion, but really, it is a love story and a potential epic tragedy.  And this song that I have on infinite repeat, really really captures the essence of that tragedy.

Okay, back to recap drafting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, it&#8217;s anniversary week.  Exactly 20 weeks ago (see Open Thread #85), my wife and I finished HGD, and we saw the ending of HGD (ep 24) and I was shocked because hjkomo promised me one ending and we got a totally different ending than the one that hjkomo promised.  I was not ready for what I saw, but I liked it a lot regardless.  </p>
<p>Anyhoo, as I draft recaps, I like to listen to k-music (not completely surprising), and the k-music I like listening to, is k-drama OST music.  Sort of gets me in the recapping mood.  And one of my most fav k-drama OST songs is &#8220;If&#8221; by Tae-Yeon of SNSD, the title track to the Hong Gil Dong drama series.  But even though I&#8217;ve listened to the song a thousand times, tonight I got a new take on the song.  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that I ever really paid attention to the lyrics; I just sort of liked the song and I liked how it meshed with the drama and the romance between Gil Dong and Yinok.  But now sort of a have a handle now on why I loved both the drama and the song.  Here are the lyrics to the song again, roughly translated by me:</p>
<p>&#8220;If&#8221; by Tae-Yeon.<br />
<em><br />
If I should go, if I should get close to you,<br />
What would your thoughts be?<br />
But I don’t have the courage (to do so).</p>
<p>If you should go, if you should go ahead and leave,<br />
How do I get myself to let you go?<br />
I always get scared (to even think about it)</p>
<p>CHORUS:<br />
Because I’m not very smart, I know all I can do is watch you from a distance<br />
And it’s also because my heart which does not know how to do anything,<br />
Might lead to us to being like strangers to each other.<br />
Because I’m really dumb, I know that I don’t even know how to say that I love you<br />
And the pain and sorrow that follows in the time after seeing you<br />
Is what is frightening me so.</p>
<p>If you should come, if you should come all the way to me.<br />
What would I have to do (in such a case)?<br />
It is something truly unknowable to me.</p>
<p>Chorus<br />
Repeat second half of chorus.</em></p>
<p>What is interesting is that this song is basically a dirge.  It&#8217;s an expression of emotions based on a tragedy.  The song is about a girl who likes a boy, but the girl isn&#8217;t that smart and so she believes that she has to stay away from him &#8211; first because she might screw up any possibility of a relationship, and also because she is afraid of feeling the sorrow that follows after seeing him.</p>
<p>It isn&#8217;t that the girl is afraid of being rejected by Gil Dong per se, but since she isn&#8217;t that smart, she can&#8217;t figure things out to be confident enough to believe that things will work out.  It is SUCH an honest assessment of why she has to stay away.  Is it that only people who aren&#8217;t so smart, end up being so brutually honest with themselves (i.e., smart people tend to fool themselves with justifications and distractions)?  If only everyone in the world were this honest with their feelings, how much better would the world be?</p>
<p>What is also interesting is that as smart as Gil Dong is, he too, has the same fears and the same inability to see into the future, to see what would happen if they did get together.  It isn&#8217;t a matter of intelligence after all, but a matter of whether the lines of fate will allow them the chance to be together or not.  In a rather ironic way, the singer of the song is actually wrong &#8211; it turns out that it isn&#8217;t because she&#8217;s not that smart, that she can&#8217;t be with Gil Dong; rather, it is because of forces far beyond Yinok&#8217;s control that are causing all the issues.   </p>
<p>Hong Gil Dong may be an action fusion saguek fusion, but really, it is a love story and a potential epic tragedy.  And this song that I have on infinite repeat, really really captures the essence of that tragedy.</p>
<p>Okay, back to recap drafting!</p>
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		<dc:creator>ockoala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 00:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ belleza

1.  I agree - as much as JGS is perfectly cast as TK today in 2009 - I can&#039;t say this is the breakthrough performance for him.  JGS is a legit actor in my eyes, I may someday say his TK was my favorite role he every played, but I know he will have some breakthrough performance in him coming along.  

He looks like he can play TK in his sleep, it&#039;s looks effortless, and and probably is indeed effortless for him.  TK is not terrible hard to grasp for a good actor, and I love that JGS is owning TK instead of the other way around.  A lessor thespian, and a lessor kookier real life persona than JGS in real life, may be overwhelmed by the guyliner, ridiculous bordering on fruity-punk attire, and earlier hairdo-from-hell. 

2.  Lee Junki as 2004 Hwan Tae-kyung, with his Go Mi-nyeo as......2004 Yoon Eun-hye? (no, too obvious a choice, and somehow to earthy for a nun and to be paired with Junki).......Ah, this is easy......what with all the clamoring in the comments for this.....2004 Han Ji-min as Go Mi-neyo.  Does the thought make your heart race like it does mine.  2004 Han Ji-min is right after her almost nun turn as baby Song Hye-gyo....

I would pay to watch A.N.-jell tour with Junki as the lead singer....seriously, like buy a ticket and fly to Asia pay.

&quot;He was born to play this part. Born. To . Play. TK.&quot; - I&#039;m glad someone (esp. this belleza), though along the same lines.

But 2009 JGS as TK and 2009 PSH as MN - I love it!!!  Love it!!  And am going insane with a certain kiss that ends episode 6 of YB.  Roar of anger from ockoala!~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ belleza</p>
<p>1.  I agree &#8211; as much as JGS is perfectly cast as TK today in 2009 &#8211; I can&#8217;t say this is the breakthrough performance for him.  JGS is a legit actor in my eyes, I may someday say his TK was my favorite role he every played, but I know he will have some breakthrough performance in him coming along.  </p>
<p>He looks like he can play TK in his sleep, it&#8217;s looks effortless, and and probably is indeed effortless for him.  TK is not terrible hard to grasp for a good actor, and I love that JGS is owning TK instead of the other way around.  A lessor thespian, and a lessor kookier real life persona than JGS in real life, may be overwhelmed by the guyliner, ridiculous bordering on fruity-punk attire, and earlier hairdo-from-hell. </p>
<p>2.  Lee Junki as 2004 Hwan Tae-kyung, with his Go Mi-nyeo as&#8230;&#8230;2004 Yoon Eun-hye? (no, too obvious a choice, and somehow to earthy for a nun and to be paired with Junki)&#8230;&#8230;.Ah, this is easy&#8230;&#8230;what with all the clamoring in the comments for this&#8230;..2004 Han Ji-min as Go Mi-neyo.  Does the thought make your heart race like it does mine.  2004 Han Ji-min is right after her almost nun turn as baby Song Hye-gyo&#8230;.</p>
<p>I would pay to watch A.N.-jell tour with Junki as the lead singer&#8230;.seriously, like buy a ticket and fly to Asia pay.</p>
<p>&#8220;He was born to play this part. Born. To . Play. TK.&#8221; &#8211; I&#8217;m glad someone (esp. this belleza), though along the same lines.</p>
<p>But 2009 JGS as TK and 2009 PSH as MN &#8211; I love it!!!  Love it!!  And am going insane with a certain kiss that ends episode 6 of YB.  Roar of anger from ockoala!~</p>
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		<title>By: belleza</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 22:35:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ockoala,

&quot;I cannot imagine the day that Jo In-sung can out Jo In-sung himself from his performance of Jung Jae-min in WHIB&quot;

And that&#039;s the thing.  Watching JIS trying to out &quot;Aarrgghhhhoooommwwaahhharrgghhhfistinmouth@#$@#%!!!!&quot; himself makes you wonder whether he acts . . . . or he really needs to see a therapist?  :D  

Yet, having said that . . . 

&quot;(it’s kinda like a creepy peepshow, you can’t look away when a hot, grown man has regressed into every oedipal id in the drama psyche).&quot;

It&#039;s reassuring to see JIS actually get into a relative state of normalcy through the 2nd half of Spring Day.  You almost tell yourself, &quot;okay, so WHiB didn&#039;t really have to end THAT way?  It wasn&#039;t inevitable.  He didn&#039;t have to aarrgghhhhoooommwwaahhharrgghhhfistinmouth@#$@#%!!!!&quot; &quot;

&quot;And JGS – I hope he doesn’t follow in JIS’s footsteps, good footsteps, no doubt, a baeksang in the pocket – &quot;

I fear more of that from Kim Bum.  When I heard his role model was JIS, I could definitely see that in KB&#039;s acting style (esp. the yelling when he&#039;s upset.)  Which is not a good thing IMO -- it&#039;s very easy to turn into, well, a &quot;Aarrgghhhhoooommwwaahhharrgghhhfistinmouth@#$@#%!!!!&quot; Robot if you always go for that.  

My thing with Zoolander is that he&#039;s really settled for this.  I know I&#039;m not being fair - -his performance here is really good, what with the double-takes, neurotic tics, and that yummy guyliner (mmmmm . . . .emo boy with thing stuck up his butt . . . )  If I hadn&#039;t seen his previous performances, where he got interesting roles but seemed stuck in a rut, I would be more happy for him.  I can&#039;t really say, wow Zoolander&#039;s really expanded his range, &quot;Sid Vicious-meets-Billy Idol&quot; lips aside.

&quot;And speaking of Mr. Zoolander – if YB was 5 years ago – would Junki have nailed the role of TK?&quot;

Oh hun -- if Lee Jung Ki did this part and was still sporting his Pepsi Choice of a New Generation Hair  -- An Jell would become what the Flower Four is in Meteor Garden.  A legitimate group touring all over Asia with loads of yaoi fun between him and guyliner rival Shin Woo (squeeeeee!!!!!!)

Guy liner + Zoolander = Smirky hot
Guy liner + Lee Jung Ki = International Situation in Asia

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ockoala,</p>
<p>&#8220;I cannot imagine the day that Jo In-sung can out Jo In-sung himself from his performance of Jung Jae-min in WHIB&#8221;</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s the thing.  Watching JIS trying to out &#8220;Aarrgghhhhoooommwwaahhharrgghhhfistinmouth@#$@#%!!!!&#8221; himself makes you wonder whether he acts . . . . or he really needs to see a therapist?  <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>Yet, having said that . . . </p>
<p>&#8220;(it’s kinda like a creepy peepshow, you can’t look away when a hot, grown man has regressed into every oedipal id in the drama psyche).&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s reassuring to see JIS actually get into a relative state of normalcy through the 2nd half of Spring Day.  You almost tell yourself, &#8220;okay, so WHiB didn&#8217;t really have to end THAT way?  It wasn&#8217;t inevitable.  He didn&#8217;t have to aarrgghhhhoooommwwaahhharrgghhhfistinmouth@#$@#%!!!!&#8221; &#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;And JGS – I hope he doesn’t follow in JIS’s footsteps, good footsteps, no doubt, a baeksang in the pocket – &#8221;</p>
<p>I fear more of that from Kim Bum.  When I heard his role model was JIS, I could definitely see that in KB&#8217;s acting style (esp. the yelling when he&#8217;s upset.)  Which is not a good thing IMO &#8212; it&#8217;s very easy to turn into, well, a &#8220;Aarrgghhhhoooommwwaahhharrgghhhfistinmouth@#$@#%!!!!&#8221; Robot if you always go for that.  </p>
<p>My thing with Zoolander is that he&#8217;s really settled for this.  I know I&#8217;m not being fair &#8211; -his performance here is really good, what with the double-takes, neurotic tics, and that yummy guyliner (mmmmm . . . .emo boy with thing stuck up his butt . . . )  If I hadn&#8217;t seen his previous performances, where he got interesting roles but seemed stuck in a rut, I would be more happy for him.  I can&#8217;t really say, wow Zoolander&#8217;s really expanded his range, &#8220;Sid Vicious-meets-Billy Idol&#8221; lips aside.</p>
<p>&#8220;And speaking of Mr. Zoolander – if YB was 5 years ago – would Junki have nailed the role of TK?&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh hun &#8212; if Lee Jung Ki did this part and was still sporting his Pepsi Choice of a New Generation Hair  &#8212; An Jell would become what the Flower Four is in Meteor Garden.  A legitimate group touring all over Asia with loads of yaoi fun between him and guyliner rival Shin Woo (squeeeeee!!!!!!)</p>
<p>Guy liner + Zoolander = Smirky hot<br />
Guy liner + Lee Jung Ki = International Situation in Asia</p>
<p>He was born to play this part.  Born.  To .  Play.  TK.</p>
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