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		<title>By: tonya_so_kawaii</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonya_so_kawaii</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Dec 2009 01:31:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love your beautiful it was fun to watch</description>
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		<title>By: sleeplessinwgtn</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 09:45:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ockoala

I have been following the Autumn Concerto.  One of the reasons is also Vanness, who I first saw in MG.  However I also saw him in antoher drama with Vic Z, where his acting improved a bit over his MG performance.  Of course, Vic&#039;s acting improved tremendously, evidenced by his latest B&amp;W.  (I&#039;m still saddened and feel sorry for Vic, for losing out to newbie Mark).  However, I&#039;m also liking the story (tho&#039; it&#039;s a probably a reincarnation of earlier dramas) and the lead female character.  I like that the writer did not turn her into the usual pathetic , pitiful lead female - she&#039;s been given a strong character.

Your observation that men look better in their 30&#039;s is so true.  And that&#039;s also true with women.  The good features become more defined and whatever remaining &#039;baby fat&#039; they have are gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ockoala</p>
<p>I have been following the Autumn Concerto.  One of the reasons is also Vanness, who I first saw in MG.  However I also saw him in antoher drama with Vic Z, where his acting improved a bit over his MG performance.  Of course, Vic&#8217;s acting improved tremendously, evidenced by his latest B&amp;W.  (I&#8217;m still saddened and feel sorry for Vic, for losing out to newbie Mark).  However, I&#8217;m also liking the story (tho&#8217; it&#8217;s a probably a reincarnation of earlier dramas) and the lead female character.  I like that the writer did not turn her into the usual pathetic , pitiful lead female &#8211; she&#8217;s been given a strong character.</p>
<p>Your observation that men look better in their 30&#8242;s is so true.  And that&#8217;s also true with women.  The good features become more defined and whatever remaining &#8216;baby fat&#8217; they have are gone.</p>
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		<title>By: belleza</title>
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		<dc:creator>belleza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 06:27:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ockoala,

&quot;And it’s all due to my love for the robot/human hybrid Song Seung-hun.&quot;

Half teddy bear, half Borg -- resistance is warm and fuzzy with Song Seung Heun!!  :D

@hjkomo,

“There won’t be contrived episode endings with close-up shots of This Jang Hyuk or This Oh Ji Ho’s eyebrows (or pecs? :P ) just to keep the audience hanging on for the next ep.”

What?????  *cue frozen bluescreen closeup shot of This Belleza’s National Eyebrow and that fat lady vocal ohhhhhaahhhhhhhhh*

Ah I do love Queen Duckie.  Sure, I agree with Thundie that it’s the Kingdom of Shilla-ela-ela version of “Dumb and Dumberer”, but I also argue it has a little Ace Ventura and even Cable Guy in there.  If you believe, Duckie put a man on the moon, man on the mooooonnn!!!!  This Belleza and the Table of Evil (seriously, This Belleza loves This Mishil but does she ever stand in this show??!!??) approve!!  *cue eyebrow*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ockoala,</p>
<p>&#8220;And it’s all due to my love for the robot/human hybrid Song Seung-hun.&#8221;</p>
<p>Half teddy bear, half Borg &#8212; resistance is warm and fuzzy with Song Seung Heun!!  <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>@hjkomo,</p>
<p>“There won’t be contrived episode endings with close-up shots of This Jang Hyuk or This Oh Ji Ho’s eyebrows (or pecs? <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  ) just to keep the audience hanging on for the next ep.”</p>
<p>What?????  *cue frozen bluescreen closeup shot of This Belleza’s National Eyebrow and that fat lady vocal ohhhhhaahhhhhhhhh*</p>
<p>Ah I do love Queen Duckie.  Sure, I agree with Thundie that it’s the Kingdom of Shilla-ela-ela version of “Dumb and Dumberer”, but I also argue it has a little Ace Ventura and even Cable Guy in there.  If you believe, Duckie put a man on the moon, man on the mooooonnn!!!!  This Belleza and the Table of Evil (seriously, This Belleza loves This Mishil but does she ever stand in this show??!!??) approve!!  *cue eyebrow*</p>
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		<title>By: ockoala</title>
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		<dc:creator>ockoala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 03:56:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ langdon-unni

The ONLY, SOLE, SINGLE reason I am watching Autumn Concerto is because I cannot for the life of me believe that the male lead is the self-same Vanness Wu from F4, Meteor Garden days, which is when I last saw him.  Good god, was that what was hiding behind that curtain of girly hair in MG?  

With the sudden (for me) resurgence by VIc Zhou in Black &amp; White, and now Vanness in Autumn Concerto (OMG, he is realllllly fine, and doing a credible acting job as well - his character is like Dao Mingshi, Gu Jun-pyo, but a playboy ass instead of just a psycho ass) - I am just agape at how really, I find most men really do look better in their thirties than in their twenties.  Which makes me fear for my heart (it&#039;ll probably stop dead in its beat) once Kim Bum, Jang Geun-soek, Yoo Seung-ho, et. al., really grow up in ten years time.  

Anyway - dropping another hint, the news I have may involve not one, but four, huge celebrities.  Brace yourself!  BTW, if it turns out to be a joke perpetrated on the gullible Chinese media, well then, I take no responsibility for disseminating the information.

@ hjkomo

I love Ha Ji-won and her pout-seduction techniques, I&#039;ve been meaning to watch Damo, I know of all the great, great reviews about it.  I&#039;ll definitely watch it before Chuno starts airing.  And no, I don&#039;t mind in the least if every single Chuno ep. ended with a shirtless Jang Hyuk or Oh Ji-ho, preferably embracing Lee Da-hae or pining for her.  I love male angst, but pair it with unrequited or silent angst, well, that&#039;s like my cake with a cherry on top.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ langdon-unni</p>
<p>The ONLY, SOLE, SINGLE reason I am watching Autumn Concerto is because I cannot for the life of me believe that the male lead is the self-same Vanness Wu from F4, Meteor Garden days, which is when I last saw him.  Good god, was that what was hiding behind that curtain of girly hair in MG?  </p>
<p>With the sudden (for me) resurgence by VIc Zhou in Black &amp; White, and now Vanness in Autumn Concerto (OMG, he is realllllly fine, and doing a credible acting job as well &#8211; his character is like Dao Mingshi, Gu Jun-pyo, but a playboy ass instead of just a psycho ass) &#8211; I am just agape at how really, I find most men really do look better in their thirties than in their twenties.  Which makes me fear for my heart (it&#8217;ll probably stop dead in its beat) once Kim Bum, Jang Geun-soek, Yoo Seung-ho, et. al., really grow up in ten years time.  </p>
<p>Anyway &#8211; dropping another hint, the news I have may involve not one, but four, huge celebrities.  Brace yourself!  BTW, if it turns out to be a joke perpetrated on the gullible Chinese media, well then, I take no responsibility for disseminating the information.</p>
<p>@ hjkomo</p>
<p>I love Ha Ji-won and her pout-seduction techniques, I&#8217;ve been meaning to watch Damo, I know of all the great, great reviews about it.  I&#8217;ll definitely watch it before Chuno starts airing.  And no, I don&#8217;t mind in the least if every single Chuno ep. ended with a shirtless Jang Hyuk or Oh Ji-ho, preferably embracing Lee Da-hae or pining for her.  I love male angst, but pair it with unrequited or silent angst, well, that&#8217;s like my cake with a cherry on top.</p>
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		<title>By: langdon813</title>
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		<dc:creator>langdon813</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:46:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@243, ockoala

      * * * la-la-la-la-la-fingers-in-my-ears-can&#039;t-hear-you-la-la-la-la-la * * *

Other than YB, the only shows I watch live are Amazing Race and Survivor, and those only because of my husband&#039;s insistence that I spend at least two hours a week with him. And that&#039;s it for US shows, at least until Lost and Friday Night Lights come back on. I&#039;m sort of halfheartedly watching Autumn Concerto but it only comes on once a week, so I think I&#039;ll  stop until it&#039;s finished and catch back up later. It&#039;s not exactly keeping me on the edge of my seat like some other ridiculously addictive show I could mention. ;-)

I&#039;m diving back into Friend later on tonight, I had to take a break for a couple of days but I&#039;m up to Ep 10. Halfway there now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@243, ockoala</p>
<p>      * * * la-la-la-la-la-fingers-in-my-ears-can&#8217;t-hear-you-la-la-la-la-la * * *</p>
<p>Other than YB, the only shows I watch live are Amazing Race and Survivor, and those only because of my husband&#8217;s insistence that I spend at least two hours a week with him. And that&#8217;s it for US shows, at least until Lost and Friday Night Lights come back on. I&#8217;m sort of halfheartedly watching Autumn Concerto but it only comes on once a week, so I think I&#8217;ll  stop until it&#8217;s finished and catch back up later. It&#8217;s not exactly keeping me on the edge of my seat like some other ridiculously addictive show I could mention. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;m diving back into Friend later on tonight, I had to take a break for a couple of days but I&#8217;m up to Ep 10. Halfway there now.</p>
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		<title>By: ockoala</title>
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		<dc:creator>ockoala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 02:05:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ langdon-unni

Nope, the news had nothing to do with your LMK, you can sleep easy tonight.  Might I suggest gearing yourself up for the inevitable, though, it&#039;s bound to happen, and I don&#039;t want to fan you whilst you faint away at the news that your LMK has knocked up XYZ actress and they are headed to the alter in 1 months time.

@ hjkomo

Watching TV shows live is a love-hate relationship for me.  I love the rush of it, I hate the anxiety of watching for the airing time of the next episiode.  But I thoroughly enjoy the fan-excitement after each airing.

On current US TV shows, other than Lost and 24, we don&#039;t have as many cliffhanger shows from week to week, so if I watch any, it&#039;s mostly episodic shows.  I&#039;ll probably be a mess of Lost-ness once Jan 2010 as well (and if the sacrificed too early Boone shows up, I&#039;l just going to faint away with giddiness - I want the last season of lost to be purely eye candy, because unless JJ Abrams is the almighty, he&#039;s pretty much going to not really explain anything to my satisfaction so I should just not expect that).

Anyways, back to watching live - since I started k-dramas only in the last 2 years, my first encounter was box sets where everything was all done and you can power through an entire drama in 2 days, and I loved that.  Watching live has been a new experience for me, and guess which drama prompted me to start?

East of Eden!  And it&#039;s all due to my love for the robot/human hybrid Song Seung-hun.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ langdon-unni</p>
<p>Nope, the news had nothing to do with your LMK, you can sleep easy tonight.  Might I suggest gearing yourself up for the inevitable, though, it&#8217;s bound to happen, and I don&#8217;t want to fan you whilst you faint away at the news that your LMK has knocked up XYZ actress and they are headed to the alter in 1 months time.</p>
<p>@ hjkomo</p>
<p>Watching TV shows live is a love-hate relationship for me.  I love the rush of it, I hate the anxiety of watching for the airing time of the next episiode.  But I thoroughly enjoy the fan-excitement after each airing.</p>
<p>On current US TV shows, other than Lost and 24, we don&#8217;t have as many cliffhanger shows from week to week, so if I watch any, it&#8217;s mostly episodic shows.  I&#8217;ll probably be a mess of Lost-ness once Jan 2010 as well (and if the sacrificed too early Boone shows up, I&#8217;l just going to faint away with giddiness &#8211; I want the last season of lost to be purely eye candy, because unless JJ Abrams is the almighty, he&#8217;s pretty much going to not really explain anything to my satisfaction so I should just not expect that).</p>
<p>Anyways, back to watching live &#8211; since I started k-dramas only in the last 2 years, my first encounter was box sets where everything was all done and you can power through an entire drama in 2 days, and I loved that.  Watching live has been a new experience for me, and guess which drama prompted me to start?</p>
<p>East of Eden!  And it&#8217;s all due to my love for the robot/human hybrid Song Seung-hun.</p>
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		<title>By: hjkomo</title>
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		<dc:creator>hjkomo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ ockoala
&lt;i&gt;&quot;– I’m going to die come Jan 2010 b/c I ABHOR watching sageuks live, my heart can’t take the cliffhangers in those, but I will do it for Chuno, how can you not watch that?).&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Don&#039;t worry...this is PD Kwak Jung Hwan here. I have faith in him. 
There won&#039;t be contrived episode endings with close-up shots of This Jang Hyuk or This Oh Ji Ho&#039;s eyebrows (or pecs? :P ) just to keep the audience hanging on for the next ep. ;)

&lt;i&gt;...which leads me to a question I&#039;ve been meaning to ask - &lt;/i&gt;
I&#039;ve seen several comments around that people dislike watching dramas live because they don&#039;t like waiting a whole week for the next episode.
I think I&#039;m the opposite. Throughout my drama-watching experience, I&#039;ve found that I actually end up enjoying a drama more when I follow it live. I&#039;m able to savor it thoroughly, read news about it, watch BTS &amp; NG&#039;s, listen to the OST, and have great discussions with intelligent folk. Whereas, with marathon-watching a drama, there&#039;s the danger of getting too caught up in the momentum of back-to-back episodes which can mask the true degree of my enjoyment.
I don&#039;t know...does anyone else have the same experience?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ ockoala<br />
<i>&#8220;– I’m going to die come Jan 2010 b/c I ABHOR watching sageuks live, my heart can’t take the cliffhangers in those, but I will do it for Chuno, how can you not watch that?).&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Don&#8217;t worry&#8230;this is PD Kwak Jung Hwan here. I have faith in him.<br />
There won&#8217;t be contrived episode endings with close-up shots of This Jang Hyuk or This Oh Ji Ho&#8217;s eyebrows (or pecs? <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' />  ) just to keep the audience hanging on for the next ep. <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>&#8230;which leads me to a question I&#8217;ve been meaning to ask &#8211; </i><br />
I&#8217;ve seen several comments around that people dislike watching dramas live because they don&#8217;t like waiting a whole week for the next episode.<br />
I think I&#8217;m the opposite. Throughout my drama-watching experience, I&#8217;ve found that I actually end up enjoying a drama more when I follow it live. I&#8217;m able to savor it thoroughly, read news about it, watch BTS &amp; NG&#8217;s, listen to the OST, and have great discussions with intelligent folk. Whereas, with marathon-watching a drama, there&#8217;s the danger of getting too caught up in the momentum of back-to-back episodes which can mask the true degree of my enjoyment.<br />
I don&#8217;t know&#8230;does anyone else have the same experience?</p>
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		<title>By: epyc</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 239 rambutan 

Didn&#039;t realise the hotelier 2002 forum is still thriving!!  I watched Hotelier about two years ago and had a great time backreading all things H at that forum back then.  Damo has been on my to-watch-list but somehow I thought it would scar me like What Happened in Bali.  The DVD is untouched so far.  I will watch it one day though.  Will catch up with you about My Queen in the next OT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 239 rambutan </p>
<p>Didn&#8217;t realise the hotelier 2002 forum is still thriving!!  I watched Hotelier about two years ago and had a great time backreading all things H at that forum back then.  Damo has been on my to-watch-list but somehow I thought it would scar me like What Happened in Bali.  The DVD is untouched so far.  I will watch it one day though.  Will catch up with you about My Queen in the next OT.</p>
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		<title>By: epyc</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Jang Dong Gun and Ko So Young!  I&#039;ve seen their movie Love Wind Love Song but it didn&#039;t leave much an impression - will have to re-watch it.  (Thanks, ockoala and look forward to the juicy goss in the next OT.  I need a break from the heart-wrenching final scene of YB Ep 10 .....)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, Jang Dong Gun and Ko So Young!  I&#8217;ve seen their movie Love Wind Love Song but it didn&#8217;t leave much an impression &#8211; will have to re-watch it.  (Thanks, ockoala and look forward to the juicy goss in the next OT.  I need a break from the heart-wrenching final scene of YB Ep 10 &#8230;..)</p>
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		<title>By: rambutan</title>
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		<dc:creator>rambutan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@211 Ockoala: &quot;Maybe I ought to finally get my butt ready to watch Damo?&quot;

My recommendation: Watch it! Damo is the only sageuk that I return to once a while over the past few years. I&#039;ve read all 82 pages of love and insanity for Damo contained here.  http://www.hotelier2002.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2242&amp;postdays=0&amp;postorder=asc&amp;&amp;start=0.

Took me 2-3 years to do that, and it was fun! You will recognise a few celebrity names in the Kr drama viewers scene in this thread, too!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@211 Ockoala: &#8220;Maybe I ought to finally get my butt ready to watch Damo?&#8221;</p>
<p>My recommendation: Watch it! Damo is the only sageuk that I return to once a while over the past few years. I&#8217;ve read all 82 pages of love and insanity for Damo contained here.  <a href="http://www.hotelier2002.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2242&#038;postdays=0&#038;postorder=asc&#038;&#038;start=0" rel="nofollow">http://www.hotelier2002.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2242&#038;postdays=0&#038;postorder=asc&#038;&#038;start=0</a>.</p>
<p>Took me 2-3 years to do that, and it was fun! You will recognise a few celebrity names in the Kr drama viewers scene in this thread, too!</p>
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