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		<title>By: luvyenz</title>
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		<dc:creator>luvyenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Mar 2010 03:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i don&#039;t like SSH, i don&#039;t like mafia&#039;s or gank&#039;s story, but i love LMK so i guess i will wait n watch this movie just because of Minki. But please don&#039;t let minki&#039;s character die like his other blockbuster movies ok,pleasse.... (coz i never watched ABT before,so i don&#039;t know the story). Just give him some happy ending Ok. Fighting MINKI.....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t like SSH, i don&#8217;t like mafia&#8217;s or gank&#8217;s story, but i love LMK so i guess i will wait n watch this movie just because of Minki. But please don&#8217;t let minki&#8217;s character die like his other blockbuster movies ok,pleasse&#8230;. (coz i never watched ABT before,so i don&#8217;t know the story). Just give him some happy ending Ok. Fighting MINKI&#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Life is not Fair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life is not Fair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 54 - SSH is never a poor choice, commercially he will gather revenue (from investors), all Hallyu stars are rich beyond belief (by Korean standards of course), so he doesn&#039;t need the money, he needs to continue to challenge himself to do good character roles, albeit, acting performance as well.  

@ 55 - You&#039;d actually think Kim Bum will even be considered for such a role? after his drama &#039;Dream&#039; never saw life and can&#039;t even pass the 10% ratings marker? and even JJM was also the lead.  Which really angers me, JJM just had a decent success with FF co-starring with JIS and that drama just gave him a set back to no end.  I couldn&#039;t believe he took that role.  I mean what was he thinking? 

SSH&#039;s EOE drama was a mess behind the scenes especially with the terrible ending.  But the drama kept me watching until the very end.  I think he can still pull off the role well with this movie if he continues to focus and takes our criticism to his advantage to make him work harder.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 54 &#8211; SSH is never a poor choice, commercially he will gather revenue (from investors), all Hallyu stars are rich beyond belief (by Korean standards of course), so he doesn&#8217;t need the money, he needs to continue to challenge himself to do good character roles, albeit, acting performance as well.  </p>
<p>@ 55 &#8211; You&#8217;d actually think Kim Bum will even be considered for such a role? after his drama &#8216;Dream&#8217; never saw life and can&#8217;t even pass the 10% ratings marker? and even JJM was also the lead.  Which really angers me, JJM just had a decent success with FF co-starring with JIS and that drama just gave him a set back to no end.  I couldn&#8217;t believe he took that role.  I mean what was he thinking? </p>
<p>SSH&#8217;s EOE drama was a mess behind the scenes especially with the terrible ending.  But the drama kept me watching until the very end.  I think he can still pull off the role well with this movie if he continues to focus and takes our criticism to his advantage to make him work harder.</p>
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		<title>By: mimim</title>
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		<dc:creator>mimim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 10:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok SSH is handsome even i hate him. 
but i feel his acting will be as sour as in FATE.
That movie totally pathetic..

SSH not teen idol anymore that i feel when Kim bum take some serious Roles.

anyway hey ALL!!!  (  waving!!!! ) do you think SSH will have same fate like Chow yun fat ??? i don&#039;t think so ..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok SSH is handsome even i hate him.<br />
but i feel his acting will be as sour as in FATE.<br />
That movie totally pathetic..</p>
<p>SSH not teen idol anymore that i feel when Kim bum take some serious Roles.</p>
<p>anyway hey ALL!!!  (  waving!!!! ) do you think SSH will have same fate like Chow yun fat ??? i don&#8217;t think so ..</p>
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		<title>By: Mara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 04:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>okay, all 54 of us agree that SSH is a poor choice, but the man is smokin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>okay, all 54 of us agree that SSH is a poor choice, but the man is smokin</p>
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		<title>By: epyc</title>
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		<dc:creator>epyc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 07:11:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ 52 Life is not Fair 

You are right - it really depends on what new materials and thoughts are to be injected in the remake.  Or rather, remake is not the right term where the movie is inspired by some previous works (just think YB that has obvious traces of He is aWoman, She is a Man).  For example, the 1960s HK movie directed by Lung Kong, based on which ABT was made, has little resemblance of the ABT we know apart from the gangster and cop brother storyline.  

ABT&#039;s success lies squarely with (a) John Woo&#039;s sensational treatment of his materials which in many ways is an epic bromance (in the Chang Cheh tradition) and (b) the perfect casting and prime acting of Chow Yun Fat, Ti Lung, Leslie Cheung.   CYF&#039;s character strictly speaking is a  supporting role but he pulls it off so well that it becomes his signature career role.  Let&#039;s put it that way, he is born to play Brother Mark.

Yet, I have a hard time picturing Song Seung Heon playing CYF&#039;s role.  Let&#039;s wait and see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ 52 Life is not Fair </p>
<p>You are right &#8211; it really depends on what new materials and thoughts are to be injected in the remake.  Or rather, remake is not the right term where the movie is inspired by some previous works (just think YB that has obvious traces of He is aWoman, She is a Man).  For example, the 1960s HK movie directed by Lung Kong, based on which ABT was made, has little resemblance of the ABT we know apart from the gangster and cop brother storyline.  </p>
<p>ABT&#8217;s success lies squarely with (a) John Woo&#8217;s sensational treatment of his materials which in many ways is an epic bromance (in the Chang Cheh tradition) and (b) the perfect casting and prime acting of Chow Yun Fat, Ti Lung, Leslie Cheung.   CYF&#8217;s character strictly speaking is a  supporting role but he pulls it off so well that it becomes his signature career role.  Let&#8217;s put it that way, he is born to play Brother Mark.</p>
<p>Yet, I have a hard time picturing Song Seung Heon playing CYF&#8217;s role.  Let&#8217;s wait and see.</p>
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		<title>By: Life is not Fair</title>
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		<dc:creator>Life is not Fair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 20:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Before ABT even aired Chow was not even close to what he was after .  So, point being, Chow was a mere &quot;mediocre actor&quot; like aka you know who, then afterwards, he became a great actor.  

Again, if SSH can pull this off, he will be a &quot;great actor,&quot; because he will have that chip on his shoulder of you guys, and yes me too, who keeps criticizing him that he&#039;s just a &quot;pretty face&quot; and nothing more.  If he does this role well, I will give him that great respect.  Because a dynamic and talented actor will adapt to his role and make us believe he is that person on screen.  

ABT will closely be on the microscope of hardcore fans like me and some of you here.  I have a lot of respect for the Korean Fingerpoint production co. for taking this project to be portrayed in a Korean style.  And what&#039;s with all the negatives that I&#039;m reading?  I don&#039;t understand what&#039;s the big deal?  If you don&#039;t want to watch it, don&#039;t.  Movie remakes are always being done all the time and will continue to, so it&#039;s nothing new. 

 In case all of you don&#039;t know, ABT was also itself a remake! It was a remake of a 1967 Cantonese film called &#039;Story of a Discharged Prisoner&#039; which ABT surpasses obviously because of the technology in film making at that time.  So there&#039;s nothing wrong with remakes, all it can do is to make it better or worse.  What&#039;s to stop the Korean version to do even better? technology is even more advance now than it was in the &#039;80s.  

Also, reading on some news that this will not be an exact &quot;remake&quot;? it will just have the basic blueprint of ABT but it&#039;s gonna be in a Korean storyline.  Some preliminary articles report,  the story is that the character that Song is portraying was in a special forces unit in North Korea and was sent to South Korea, and somehow he got entangled in a gang war or conflict.  

I&#039;ll support this production because I&#039;m a fan of ABT, so if SSH hits a home-run and performed excellently with this project, I won&#039;t say anything negative about this man anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before ABT even aired Chow was not even close to what he was after .  So, point being, Chow was a mere &#8220;mediocre actor&#8221; like aka you know who, then afterwards, he became a great actor.  </p>
<p>Again, if SSH can pull this off, he will be a &#8220;great actor,&#8221; because he will have that chip on his shoulder of you guys, and yes me too, who keeps criticizing him that he&#8217;s just a &#8220;pretty face&#8221; and nothing more.  If he does this role well, I will give him that great respect.  Because a dynamic and talented actor will adapt to his role and make us believe he is that person on screen.  </p>
<p>ABT will closely be on the microscope of hardcore fans like me and some of you here.  I have a lot of respect for the Korean Fingerpoint production co. for taking this project to be portrayed in a Korean style.  And what&#8217;s with all the negatives that I&#8217;m reading?  I don&#8217;t understand what&#8217;s the big deal?  If you don&#8217;t want to watch it, don&#8217;t.  Movie remakes are always being done all the time and will continue to, so it&#8217;s nothing new. </p>
<p> In case all of you don&#8217;t know, ABT was also itself a remake! It was a remake of a 1967 Cantonese film called &#8216;Story of a Discharged Prisoner&#8217; which ABT surpasses obviously because of the technology in film making at that time.  So there&#8217;s nothing wrong with remakes, all it can do is to make it better or worse.  What&#8217;s to stop the Korean version to do even better? technology is even more advance now than it was in the &#8217;80s.  </p>
<p>Also, reading on some news that this will not be an exact &#8220;remake&#8221;? it will just have the basic blueprint of ABT but it&#8217;s gonna be in a Korean storyline.  Some preliminary articles report,  the story is that the character that Song is portraying was in a special forces unit in North Korea and was sent to South Korea, and somehow he got entangled in a gang war or conflict.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll support this production because I&#8217;m a fan of ABT, so if SSH hits a home-run and performed excellently with this project, I won&#8217;t say anything negative about this man anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: glitzyglam</title>
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		<dc:creator>glitzyglam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:46:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wait, so it this going to be a movie or a drama? Either way, I am uber excited. I love both boys (ESPECIALLY the handsome mr. 숱검댕이) and it&#039;s kind of weird to imagine them in something together.. I dunno why..

but it&#039;s interesting because I was introduced to both of them through SITCOMS (남자셋 여자셋 &amp; Rainbow Romance) so I just constantly have funny images of them in my mind :/ haha I miss 남자셋 여자셋!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wait, so it this going to be a movie or a drama? Either way, I am uber excited. I love both boys (ESPECIALLY the handsome mr. 숱검댕이) and it&#8217;s kind of weird to imagine them in something together.. I dunno why..</p>
<p>but it&#8217;s interesting because I was introduced to both of them through SITCOMS (남자셋 여자셋 &amp; Rainbow Romance) so I just constantly have funny images of them in my mind :/ haha I miss 남자셋 여자셋!</p>
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		<title>By: DramaFever.com Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Fever Watch - Nov 13, 2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>DramaFever.com Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The Fever Watch - Nov 13, 2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 17:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Woo&#8217;s 1986 hit A Better Tomorrow is being remade, with Song Seung Heon taking on the Chow Yun Fat role. This one is titled Invincible and moves the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: raz</title>
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		<dc:creator>raz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 12:33:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I JUST SAW THE MOVIE BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS WHAT THE HELL ALL OFF YOU TALKING ABOUT.   THIS IS A CLASSIC MOVIE BUT I DON&#039;T UNDERSTEND WHAT SO GREAT ABOUT THOSE ACTORS ( CHOW AND LESLIE) THAT SSH CAN&#039;T GET INTO THEIRS SHOES????
 I&quot;M TALKING AS A MOVIES AND DRAMAS FREAK.
I&quot;M SURE THAT THIS  REMAKE WILL BRING US A DEVELOPMENT PLOT THAT
REFLECTING OUR DECADE (LIKE &quot;IRIS&quot;) .
MY DEAR SSH I&quot;ll CROSSFINGERS TO YOUR&#039;S SUCCESS.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I JUST SAW THE MOVIE BECAUSE I WAS CURIOUS WHAT THE HELL ALL OFF YOU TALKING ABOUT.   THIS IS A CLASSIC MOVIE BUT I DON&#8217;T UNDERSTEND WHAT SO GREAT ABOUT THOSE ACTORS ( CHOW AND LESLIE) THAT SSH CAN&#8217;T GET INTO THEIRS SHOES????<br />
 I&#8221;M TALKING AS A MOVIES AND DRAMAS FREAK.<br />
I&#8221;M SURE THAT THIS  REMAKE WILL BRING US A DEVELOPMENT PLOT THAT<br />
REFLECTING OUR DECADE (LIKE &#8220;IRIS&#8221;) .<br />
MY DEAR SSH I&#8221;ll CROSSFINGERS TO YOUR&#8217;S SUCCESS.</p>
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		<title>By: Jessica</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jessica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 11:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always intrigued when other Asian countries remake another Asian film because I feel there&#039;s a greater respect to the original material when compared to Hollywood remakes.

Also, because many Asians have either already seen the original or they&#039;ll watch it because they like the remake.

So I&#039;m actually curious how this remake will turn out.

However, like ockoala &amp; epyc mentioned, I&#039;m a little wary of Song Seung-heon.

Don&#039;t get me wrong, I love SSH, but this character needs a &quot;bad boy&quot; type of person. Someone you can look at and feel completely safe with because you know he&#039;s going to kick the bad guys ass.

SSH has more of a, let&#039;s-sit-down-over-there-and-stare-into-each-other&#039;s-eyes-type vibe :)

But I think Lee Min-ki is talented enough to pull off Leslie Cheung&#039;s role---of course in his own style.

@ ockoala #27

I LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!

I actually just started to watch YB and when someone mentioned in Episode 7 that the piano scene reminder her of that movie I felt the urge to re-watch it again immediately :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always intrigued when other Asian countries remake another Asian film because I feel there&#8217;s a greater respect to the original material when compared to Hollywood remakes.</p>
<p>Also, because many Asians have either already seen the original or they&#8217;ll watch it because they like the remake.</p>
<p>So I&#8217;m actually curious how this remake will turn out.</p>
<p>However, like ockoala &amp; epyc mentioned, I&#8217;m a little wary of Song Seung-heon.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I love SSH, but this character needs a &#8220;bad boy&#8221; type of person. Someone you can look at and feel completely safe with because you know he&#8217;s going to kick the bad guys ass.</p>
<p>SSH has more of a, let&#8217;s-sit-down-over-there-and-stare-into-each-other&#8217;s-eyes-type vibe <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I think Lee Min-ki is talented enough to pull off Leslie Cheung&#8217;s role&#8212;of course in his own style.</p>
<p>@ ockoala #27</p>
<p>I LOVE THAT MOVIE!!!</p>
<p>I actually just started to watch YB and when someone mentioned in Episode 7 that the piano scene reminder her of that movie I felt the urge to re-watch it again immediately <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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