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I can’t believe the last year passed as quickly as it did. It felt like a blur. And yet, sometimes it also felt like forever.

Happy New Year!!

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Happy New Year Javabeans! Thank you for brightening up my life for the past 2+ years... For giving me a second home to run to every day... :)

May 2010 be a great year for all of us! Cheers! :D

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^ I'm also guilty of bookmarking dramabeans.com and clicking on it everyday. Happy new years everyone! Have fun and be safe!

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Happy New Year JB!

It's my first time to join the thread.
I just want to say that I have been following dramabeans for a long time now.
I honestly check the site each time I surf the net.
The recaps and other posts keep me updated.
I also enjoyed the year-end reviews.
It is so fun to read how other bloggers see some of the drama.

More power for another year of fun and kdrama addiction!

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Happy New Year OT family! We've had the countdown to the New Year, now the really important countdown begins!

5 DAYS TIL CHUNO!

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Happy New Year, everyone! Thanks to Javabeans, I get my daily dose of k-drama and korean entertainment news.

It has been a very good year for me. This blog covered You're Beautiful extensively and many times last year, I squealed in delight each time Javabeans posts updates of YB and Jang Geun Seok.

I hope 2010 will be better than 2009. And perhaps a new drama from our fave stars? Good luck, y'all!

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Happy New Year everyone! I hope 2010 will be a better year for everyone..

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HAPPY HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE, MAY 2010 BE A HEALTHY, PLEASANT AND FUN JOURNEY TO ALL OF YOU.

Oh Open Thread, you have no idea how anxiously I have waited for you. To the point that this is a copy and paste document. Thanks Javabeans and crew for that wonderful 2009 kdramas year in review, we all enjoyed it. It was after reading Javabeans and the rest reviews of 2009 kdramas, I realised that I wanted to say something too. But what I wanted to say covers just about everything in relation to Asian dramas and not kdramas alone.

Therefore before you read any further, be prepared for the following:-

1. This is may be the longest post I have ever done on this site or any site ever, please be patient. These thoughts have been brimming in my head for a few days now what a relief felt now that I am able to talk. “I ABSOLUTELY LOVE THIS SITE AND OPEN THREAD”. I’m in a writing mode; this is divided into 4 parts.
2. I am a self proclaimed Asian drama addict who visits dramabeans.com, soompi.com, viikii.net and d-addicts.com everyday. Similar symptoms anyone? Raise your hands. Is there an Asian drama addicts anonymous out there, please let me know, I need to reduce my addiction.
3. What I may write may entertain, amuse, inform and offend some or all. What can I say, it’s my personality.
4. I am a Caribbean island girl and proud of it. I therefore acknowledge having no expertise on the Asian culture at all. I am a graduate from the anime genre into the dramas who never looked back.
5. I do not consider myself a ‘feminist’ but an ‘equal opportunist’, though that’s not necessarily the case in some parts of the world, I have to say watching these shows has made so glad to be born in my country “Hail up Jamaica and Jamaicans everywhere, especially the jam drama addicts you know uself”.

Part 1

With all the above said, let’s get on with my personal reviews and observations of Asian dramas on a whole. I wanted to do this as a response to the year in review by our fellow writers, but I realize there is so much more I wanted to cover so here we are in Open Thread.

Best streaming site discoveries for 2009
1. viikii.net – without a doubt. There are so many praises that I have for this site, I’m choked up. The one word I have for this site “BEAUTIFUL”. It’s the cornucopia of the world dramas to watch and allows all of us drama addicts a place to be ourselves, participate, learn and enjoy dramas from other parts of the world. It’s here I learn about Philippines, Thailand and Indian dramas, already into Korean, Japanese, Taiwanese & Chinese dramas leaning more towards Korean shows. It’s also here where I experimented with the European & South American dramas as well; hands down the Asian dramas win.
2. ovguide.com – this site allows you to explore other streaming sites for just about any type of entertainment i.e. music, movies, anime or dramas that you are interested in. I like that factor a lot, just enter your interest and ovguide gets you there very easy place to be.
3. dramastyle.com – this site is not bad at all, their search feature is great and you can view both movies and dramas from all over as well. Though I haven’t been there recently, the times that I have gone to site I have enjoyed using it.

To the fansub sites, I and the rest of the world thank you for giving us the opportunity to enjoy the dramas that are out there. Without you we would be living in total ignorance – a very sad thing to happen to us all. YOU ARE DEFINITELY MOST WORTHY & THEN SOME.

With all that said I am repeating this advice to all those sites that provides these wonderful gifts to us and then on occasion request a donation to support the site though it’s free.

I do not have a problem with the request; my main problem is how limited are the donation options available on the site. All of you should keep in mind that the sites that you host are not just serving your country; you are actually serving the world which can explain the numerous hits that you get. As such this credit card option limits a lot of people who are willing to donate but do not have one. Please find some solution to resolve this as I am sure that you will all benefit in the long run. The economy is bad worldwide so every mikkle mek a mukkle. My and other fellow watchers mikkle, surely can help you make that mukkle. As we say out here at times - one one coco full basket.

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Happy New Year JB and follow Dramabeans readers!

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Happy New Year Javabeans and to all the bloggers. You all have no idea how help full you have been, especially to new comers like me. After regularly visiting dramabeans, now i feel like a pro in term of knowledge about Korean Entertainment Industry. Its Javabeans where i got to know where to watch and what to watch. And all those amazing discussions and disagreement on what sucks and what works, and how good/bad the drama/movie were, and which star is doing/wearing what. I so appreciate that experience, now I can't imagine a day without dramabeans.com

2009 was a special year for me, I got to know about this site and came across wonderful list of Kdrama. And your Recaps...... Waoooo. You always make my day. I am a big fan of you Sarah. Korean Entertainment Industry owe you big time. I don't think without your site Korean movies and drama would be that much of fun. And the cultural aspect that you at times explain/clarify is amazing for non-korean like me.

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Part 2

Rating of other Asian countries dramas that I have watched, what was liked and disliked.

As previously stated I am a drama addict, I also like exploring other country’s shows to ascertain adding it to my watch/not watch list, so thank you viikii.net for giving me the opportunity to do so – isn’t this site beautiful.

Korean dramas – love them (the majority of the dramas that I have watched are from this country, they are not doing a bad job at all). My tastes here are eclectic but I like watching the historical, contemporary and fusion sageuk. I like sleeping, so no horror shows for me. What I like most about Korean dramas is their variety there something for everyone. I have introduced many people to this genre as well, the feeling was mutual, love at first watch.
Japanese dramas – like them, they do have fun shows to watch. Have not watched much as I did in the past, but they are interesting stories that allows you to think. For those into melodrama, mix up mix up and romance. These shows are not for you as very little of that is shown on their screen.
Taiwanese dramas – like them, though them have a tendency to use the same storyline a lot to the point of boredom. I was pleasantly surprised to actually have 3 dramas that I have enjoyed and am enjoying watching this year. Hands down Taiwanese dramas provide the most realistic love scenes especially when it comes to kissing, they have a few mishaps compared to other shows (its little) but when you see a couple kiss they are into each other, sometimes hot, on occasion tasteful & nice not the typical blah kiss scenes from the other Asian dramas for that I thank them. Plus it’s not in every episode, its’ usually few, but when its’ done, its’ done well. PDs from other countries watch & learn from the Taiwanese, in my opinion they have this aspect down pat. Any naysayers out there please tell me.
Chinese/mainland dramas – do not mind them. For those into the wuxia, fantasy stuff with lots of fighting, 30 – 40 episode long show. This is for you, don’t watch them as much because they can be boring and dragggged out, its like – get on with the story already ‘dang’ and I’m being nice here. Just start to watch one now – The book and the sword it’s new so we’ll see. You can get them from d-addicts.com for those interested.
Philippine dramas – like them, they are good shows. However, my biggest peeve is that I have yet to watch a completed, subbed drama. Why – because from what I have seen those who bring the shows to us end up stopping at some point. Dislike this much, just when you are getting to the good stuff & enjoying the show it just stops and ends up ruining the whole meal, what a big downer. Don’t spell sense watching it in the first place. I am enjoying the one that I am watching right now – ‘Because There Is Only You’ which is currently being shown at viikii.net, its 110 episodes – 85 has been uploaded to date. For those segmenters and subbers who may stop by here please complete this show myself and the rest of the fans thank you from our hearts if you do so. It would be the first Philipino drama that I actually completed watching, should I be so lucky. For those who want to volunteer go to the site i.e. viikii.net and offer your services, thanks. There would be more watchers of these type of dramas if they could just complete one.
India dramas – don’t appeal to me, they tend to bore me at times. I am sure that there are very good shows, watched some movies and loved them. However I am not into continuous singing and no kissing policy whatsoever especially when these shows are romantic, there are times to me when a hug does not suffice, one or two kisses would do. Don’t think I’m asking much, but it’s more personal taste especially with a romance drama as said sometimes hugging do not suffice, wonder where is the passion of these people? Don’t feel it. Though I am aware it’s a culture thing so that’s why I can see with it, but these are not for me.
Thailand dramas/lakorns – dislike them a lot. As previously stated I’m an equal opportunist and not a feminist. But any show/set of shows that have the hero rapes the heroine and everyone is okay with it is a huge huge turn off for me. They appear to do so with the main couple that’s married as if that justifies everything – rape is rape no matter how you look at /word it. These so called heroes and heroines of the shows are supposedly educated, sensible and intelligent people (though that remains to be seen) and you are telling me that they cannot have an “intimate” relationship without this scene in the show at all that’s sad and very disgusting. That’s the lakorns that I have seen to date, I stopped after I think the 3rd one could not complete any of them because of this factor. Did a rant on viikii.net and not gone back since, do not miss this at all. Another factor is that they have some of the female leads so stupid I have to wonder at the culture of this country and what message are they trying to send out there to the world about themselves on a whole. I particularly feel sorry for the women who go through this and if possible try to report this to the police there. I do understand that it’s not reality and a drama, but it’s sad all the same. For those who enjoy this genre – different strokes for different folks.

So that’s it in relation to Asian dramas ratings.

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Part 3

Observations of Asian dramas – cross the board, common occurrence for all/most of them, no matter the country – Japan, Korea, Philippines, China & others I think. It is here I may offend some readers; these are just my views. Dramas are that dramas, real life are put on such a backburner it’s hard to reach at times. We do love to be entertained, but some things when watched don’t make much sense, never the less we are entertained so we bear with it or ignore it, more times than not they are ignored. We try to/ignore the illogical flow of the storyline and its characters most times, there are times I want to go these places in question and shake the writers hard or knock some sense into them, in this case ‘the beam me up Scotty transporter from Star Trek would work here and be very handy’, can u imagine how many of us would use that machine? I will be using Korean dramas as examples as it’s the type I watch the most, but these also occur in other Asian dramas as well. Beginning now.

1. Why does everyone have to study in the US? Yes the US has excellent schools but so does their own country and other parts of the world as well, it’s especially difficult to believe that the character has studied overseas at an English speaking country at that for over a minimum of 2 years and their speaking skills are very weak. It is especially hard when they have the character getting excellent/high grades and awards. I am sure based on that a lot of public speaking had to be done and as such their English spoken or used is weak. This is also the case when these characters having supposedly lived in these countries for over 5 years of their lives. As such my expectations are that yes you can speak your own country’s language well but if you have been to an English speaking country over a good period of time i.e. 2 years or more your spoken English should be fair at best, not poor/very poor. I do understand how difficult it can be to learn a new language and culture – speaking from experience here though it was 4 months some years ago, I spoke the basics after that time it wasn’t poor, it was fair & then went home,. However, I do not think that I’m asking for much. I had an issue with Sons of Sols Pharmacy, not a bad show – Brutus’s family because of it. According to the storyline they have lived/grew up in the US for over 15 years their child and adulthood was spent there yet the English was spoken – very poorly by Brutus with smatterings about the place, none by the children who were born & raised there, and none by the sister an international lawyer at that who spent her child & adulthood there. I could not believe in this family at all because of it. It’s also the case with Bokshil as well, I don’t think I heard her speak any English in the show at all, though it appears that she understood it, through books that were shown & watching the shows, this aspect of her I could not believe in. In the medical profession in that country understanding and speaking Basic English is a must. After these factors were put in place, cannot in full sincerity believe the characters with the end result shown.
2. Do these shows have something against birth control, does it exist over there, I wonder. It appears that hardly anyone or no one practices safe sex, STD’s/AIDS anyone? Are they saying that these do not exist in their country? They have characters cheating on the other in some of the dramas (in some cases it is frequent), what are they bringing to their faithful spouses when they come home I wonder? Yes I understand it’s not real, but get real, these things happen a little dose of reality & prevention helps. It does not have to be obvious some subtlety would do. Do not sweep this aspect under the rug and its not tasteless/vulgar when discussed or used in the show in the right manner. Its’ like they want us to believe that everyone is purer than snow – not. Despite doing a lot of stuff, they are still very pure including the partners as well- pleeaze give me a break here.
3. Where do all the clothes come from? It amazes me at times when watching a drama, the character supposedly coming from overseas after being there for a serious length of time or moving to someone’s house and all they carry is a carryon bag/mini suitcase/knapsack and yet everyday or sometimes more than once a day they are wearing a different or new outfit coming out of this magical luggage with an endless supply of clothes, bags, accessories and shoes. Oh yes, and gifts to give people. Plus they are not shopping for these items. These characters are now living at these homes for not one week; we are talking in excess of a month here or forever. It’s the same with the closets as well. It never ceases to amaze me, whoever manufactures these magical luggage’s/closets please give me a link to your website, I want one – bottomless mini suitcase & endless closet. Do me a favor PDs, if one don’t exist, please give the characters a real huge suitcase/s with wheels to carry around, it can be empty for all I care, make me believe in something in this area. Most of the times I ignore it but its one of the reasons why I stopped watching Creating destiny, silly it may be but frankly this aspect was getting on my nerves.
4. Why do the cultures appear to over value their sons and under value their daughters? This is just not right, there are many cases where when watching these shows it’s the sons who can do no wrong and the daughters are Jezebel to the limit. As for the mothers/moms-in-laws – they even give the devil the jitters, be very very afraid. Not that there are no Jezebels mind you, but there are a lot of raw diamonds and gems as well. It’s the female that gets blamed a lot for the wrongs/situations that occur in the show as said before not all are blameless, but over 70% of the time she gets blamed, not the guy, he’s just at fault or is the contributing factor to the crime. These women are expected to be wives, mothers, daughters and then some. How can they expect them to learn to love and appreciate themselves in order to pass than on to someone? To make matters worse, it’s the mothers who spoil the child doing every/all things to the point that they are either of use, rotten, useless or decent. This is the explanation of the mama boys that exist over there. When the male decide to become his own man and choose a female of true worth, the mother objects and all hell breaks loose. Love/cherish your mothers, yes respect and listen to them totally agree but do not let them control all of your lives, your worthy girlfriend or wife is your future and continuation to your next life guys word of advice here. How would you feel if someone treated your daughter like that? I am so glad that I was not born there or live in that culture, it makes me appreciate myself and country more, I feel sorry for the girls who has to deal with this component. But that’s how the world is, we tend to undervalue our daughters but without them how would a future exist, it’s the same for sons as well. Please show us that the daughters have as much value as the son. Though there are few of the dramas that I have seen where the daughter is valued as much the son.
5. Why must there be an immediate pregnancy? Usually the character gets pregnant after the 1st night of ‘passion’ or just a look ‘miracle baby anyone?’, what happened to ‘couple time’ doesn’t that exist? Its more a personal principle of mine than anything else, children are a blessing yes but to me its more important for the couple to be a couple especially when they just got married for at least 6 months. Once children come into the picture, the couple time is significantly reduced. I like the idea the couple being a couple going through the quirks of daily life and dealing with each other adjusting to moods, arguments etc appeals to me more than an immediate pregnancy story. In Assorted Gems – I was pissed at BiChiwi for advising Kang Ji to get pregnant so soon after marrying Sanho, its not completely 3 months yet, she’s in her early 20’s and with a husband who does only studies all day. They were still adjusting to each other give them 1 year please. What’s the big rush to get pregnant or be a parent immediately after marriage, you just getting to know the other is one measly year too much to ask for? I still did not like it that they got pregnant either, but slightly (key word slightly) forgave them due to her father issues, may be he’ll live long enough to see his grandchild prior to his death, the pregnancy in this case would be Kang Ji’s family hope. Once Bichiwi or Ruby marries, I really do not want to see an immediate pregnancy, please give them one year.

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Happy Jan 1 OT!!!

hey all lurkers and first time posters! we wish you the best of 2010, a safe and prosperous and happy year.

To my extended family on dramabeans, you guys have no idea how awesome it is to have you guys adopting our baby poop generator named Ji Hoonie into your hearts.

Much love, much happiness and CitC Episode 2 to all!

(btw, the CitC OST parallel lines song has turned me into a wannabe rapper. i was going to rap my open thread comment, but I had a difficult time rhyming "prosperous" with anything but "pus" so I gave up.)

:D

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@ chasen8888, you can count me as the no.1 addict of Asian drama, BTW am Asian, and i too am a big fan of the site you mentioned. They are my best friends, i can't live a day without them. After discovering Viikii, dramabeans, Soompi and dramastyle i am literally living in my computer screen when i am at home. Initially i was so depended on My soju, can't belive all these options.

Happy New Year Javabeans and to all the bloggers. You all have no idea how help full you have been, especially to new comers like me. After regularly visiting dramabeans, now i feel like a pro in term of knowledge about Korean Entertainment Industry. Its Javabeans where i got to know where to watch and what to watch. And all those amazing discussions and disagreement on what sucks and what works, and how good/bad the drama/movie were, and which star is doing/wearing what. I so appreciate that experience, now I can't imagine a day without dramabeans.com

2009 was a special year for me, I got to know about this site and came across wonderful list of Kdrama. And your Recaps...... Waoooo. You always make my day. I am a big fan of you Sarah. Korean Entertainment Industry owe you big time. I don't think without your site Korean movies and drama would be that much of fun. And the cultural aspect that you at times explain/clarify is amazing for non-korean like me.

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That’s it for my overall observations of the typical stuff you see in the dramas. There may be more, you can name them.

Part 4 – finally phew!!

Ratings of dramas watched in 2009

Korean dramas – agree that it was an improvement over 2008. I started watching them in summer 2007. There were more watched than dropped this year.

Favorites - would watch more than one time, if and when I find time that is

Story of a Man – very smart show
Return of Illijimae – my second favorite for this year. Numero 1 is a tie and goes to City Hall and Story of Man.
Queen Seon Deok – fan of historical dramas so therefore its #my 1 historical compared to the others that were shown earlier this year
Assorted Gems – it is a gem indeed
Smile, You – the chemistry between the leads is just “Special and natural” its very hard to copy, looking forward to their future work
City Hall – the best romantic show of the year. Plus they show a couple dealing with different types of growth in their own way. For the PDs out there, that how couples suppose to kiss, like they are into each other and like to kiss. Learn that please, none of that foo foo/paste lips on person ½ second crap. I do not mind the innocent kisses now and then when appropriate it should be used but they need to show that the woman actually liked to be kissed by the guy she likes & the guy really likes to kiss her.
Family Honour

Liked – The weekend dramas has made a leap this year, there were so much to enjoy and it was difficult to pick and choose which ones to drop and which to keep.

Sons of Sols Pharmacy
Brilliant Legacy
You are Beautiful
Cain and Abel
Invincible Lee Pyung Kang – its sneaky, has a unique way of growing on you. Check it out.
Will it snow for Christmas – like it so far
Temptation of an Angel – its my kcrack for the year.
Romance Zero – a sleeper about the matchmaking industry in Korea, surprisingly funny little show, check this one out as well. It’s really nice.
Tamra the island – pleasant surprise

Disappointed – these shows I started to watch with good expectations but could not finish it because it either got boring or lost interest with the storyline at some point. Wait a minute, I did finish one.

East of Eden – what a huge disappointment, it had so much potential and just went to waste after 40 episodes or is it before? I removed this show from my PC, to think I was saving for future re-watch, bummer.
Boys before Flowers – the writers just messed up Geum Jan di’s character. In terms of comparison of idol type of shows – You are beautiful definitely beats it by far.
Creating destiny – will not go there
Hot blood – too much broken links do make one lose interest.
Empress Chun Chu – just stopped & could not go beyond #13.
Ja Myung Go – after just watching Kingdom of the Winds (Song II Gook fans out there? Me a hail you up!! Hello). This show just disappoint could not get past episode 1
Dream, Heading to ground, Strike Love and Triple – the sports dramas which I usually enjoy did not do anything for me especially when trying to balance both sports and love. They were all hard watches, which end up not being watched at the early part of the show. Watch Buzzer Beat – Japanese one which is a good sports show to watch.
My Fair Lady – painful to watch, waste of talent and stupid story to boot
Style - terrible

Could not get myself to watch even if you paid me
Cinderella man – the age gap was too hard for me to ignore with the leads
The Three Brothers – though it get great ratings the mama boys issue is too much
Don’t hesitate – admit to starting it stopped at #8 then it has become the only show that I watch via soompi readers at the site, the storyline and the complete stupidity of the leads never cease to amaze me, no one on the supposedly good side has any sense, its safer for all to watch it this way.
Loving you a thousand times – will not go there
He who cant marry - as above

Just by this listing alone, I realize that I have watched too much computer and very little TV. My 2010 goal is to reduce the number of dramas watched, gone excessive here.

Japanese dramas – much less watched than the previous year as I have leaned towards the Korean types more so. Their type of dramas usually about work /suspense/ very little comedy & romantic storyline, occasionally they can be a good watch, so with that said -

Overall liked
Buzzer Beat – favorite jdrama, light and sweet. The romance component was just right
JIN – smart show
Real clothes – food for thought on how clothes affects a person’s everyday life and their outlook on themselves as well as people’s perceptions of them based on how they dress. Did not get the significance until one of the leads advise the person “Look at yourself in the mirror a little longer, what do you see?/ is it do you like what you see?” something along those lines. I thank the team for subbing this drama, though it has ended, am highly anticipating subs for ep 8 to 11.
Liar Game 2 - its good though, I have stopped watching because there’s too much drama being watched, have to slow down

Other
Mr. Brain – not bad I like the actor Takuya Kimura, he does good work
Tokyo Dogs – could not get pass episode 1
Gyne – all about babies etc, did not hold my interest for long
God Hand Teru – not bad, liked that it was just 6 episodes
Shojoko Seira – the little Princess, the girl gets a commendation for sainthood (character) and acting (actor). Though I did have an issue with the English aspect, she grew up in India a country cornucopia of languages, spoke French & Japanese only. She also read stories to the Indian staff in Japanese, they supposedly understood her.

Taiwanese dramas – they usually have the same storyline which has eventually put me to sleep and turned off their shows. But there were surprises this year.

Favorites
Black and White - the best ever to come from this country, I was wondering where they were hiding this show; it was such a refreshing change from the usual stuff that this country brings. Looking forward to the movie coming this year.
Autumn’s Concerto – it’s a nice love story. The kid Xiao Le is adorable you will love him and it’s a good ensemble. The PDs from other countries may need to go there in order to see how a first time couple should kiss, it was sweet and later got hot. We can eliminate the hot if necessary.
Momo Love – fun story especially about the 4 brothers and 1 girl in the family, and how they deal with her love life; it will be finishing in 2 weeks. If you are a fan of the group Fahrenheit this is the show for you two of the main guys are in there as leads – Jiro and Calvin.

Other
Roseate Love – not bad, but this show can be so tiring on the viewer
Knock Knock Loving you – started okay, but went downhill could not finish it at all.
Easy Fortune, Happy Life - typical Taiwanese drama
Hi, my sweetheart – its okay, but I’m not into the show

In terms of the Hana Yori Dango story – it has so far been done by 4 countries i.e. Japan, Korea, Taiwan and China. Seen them all.
Japan, Hana Yori Dango 1& 2 – the best out of all four though the movie was messed up to me it made me glad that I watched the series first, Taiwan, Meteor Shower 1 & 2 – not a bad watch but they dragggged the storyline forever & a day could have ended earlier, Korea, Boys Before Flowers – what a shame they did to this story line as well as the characters, the one thing I enjoyed about this show was what they did with the side characters i.e. Soeul couple, I felt there more chemistry between them than the main leads in the latter part. China, Let's watch the Meteor Shower - this show like the Taiwanese one dragged, but it had the best behaving F4 of the bunch and the female ‘Makino’ was actually smart, other factors were that it had a more balanced family life aspect out of all the previous set watched , there was more involvement of the fathers/males figures in the children’s lives which I liked. What I did not like was the constant repeating of the same clothes by lead characters, expect it for the poor but not the rich or very rich as this F4 is suppose to be. If you are very rich make us believe that you are.

So there you have it my review of Asian dramas for 2009 and then some hope you all enjoyed, the very very very long post, the rants and the raves etc. Thanks Javabeans and thread. ALL THE BEST FOR 2010, HOPE ITS FILLED WITH BRIGHT HOPE AND NOT HOPELESSNESS, JOY AND NOT SADNESS, SUCCESS AND NOT FAILURE AND LOVE. I gone for now.

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it's been more than a year since i started watching kdramas and movies...thanks for this i have move on with my life... it was a good therapy! And recently i learned about dramabeans and i enjoyed more, watching the new kdramas...and learning more about the stars i love...
Thank you to all Behind Dramabeans and we wish you all the best for the year 2010!!!

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Happy New Year!!!

Hope everybody New Year fills with love,prosper,good health,and of course many excellent dramas.

Thank You JB and guest bloggers. Now back to my lurkdom.

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Happy New Year, Javabeans! :)

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Hi Javabeans,
I just want to say Happy New Year and thank you for this website. It is my daily 'fix' and without it, I'd be so lost in the land of K-dramas. Again, wish you a great new year and that I appreciate you!

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@ Samsooki I have to confess that your comment are always good read. Every time i come across Samsooki i always scroll back to see what the heck you have written this time. You always have this some sort of punch line which is hilarious most of the time. Can't believe you are still as active as ever even after all the diapers session. Happy New Year to baby Ji Hoon in his first New Year. God Bless

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@18, emeldy -

The most frustrating thing is opening a diaper you JUST changed, and see it soiled by mustardy poo, and see it has run up his back - now you have to change his diaper, his clothes, wipe him down, and do it before his pee fountain goes off ramdomly.

Still, jihoonie is healthy and relatively happy. Although hjkomo gomo reminded me that CitC is not rated "G" and so good parenting does not include watching rated PG-14 dramas with an infant... :D

I am still learning to parent!!

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its great to be in a new year, all the dramas that im one step closer to watching yay. I never really comment on the OT's because by the time i arrive there are already millions of comments.

@chasen8888
I always find it interesting when i come across someone who is not asian but loves dramas, like me. I always wonder how they got into them, for me i was into anime then jdramas then onto kdramas which i happen to prefer. some of the sites you mentioned have become my life saver, i like viikii as it is just so fast but sometimes the quality of the vids are not the best and mysoju was pretty much my first port of call when i started out. I could scroll down and choose something at random, which is a method that has reaped great rewards for me.

@ Samsooki
i know you may get this all the time but i always look forward to reading your posts, you write so well. I'm at a loss as to why you don't have your own blog as i think i speak for many when i say it would be a welcome addition to my online routine, thought i'm sure having baby Ji Hoon may make this difficult (congrats btw). I blame you for my city hall addiction :) and I look forward to reading another great recap.

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May the new decade awakes our internal wellspring of contentment, happiness and inner peace. ^_______^ V

Thank you Sarah Beans and meow meow to your cat!! ^________^

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Happy New Year everyone!!

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HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! :D

Chuno-ary is here! 5 more days!!!

I've been so busy this past week...I haven't had a chance to catch up on OT#115.

@ chasen8888

Wow, thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. Loved your Part 3, especially the closet and contraceptives comments.

@ onemorepls

Don't go back to lurkdom. OT is for everyone to chime in with thoughts, news, and even rapping.

@ Samsooki

LOL. Is Ji Hoonie on breastmilk? If so, consider yourself lucky. Mustardy poo is much more pleasant than formula poo. And I'm sure you've learned by now to always keep a cloth diaper/burp rag/towel handy to block the pee fountain because you never know when it's going to strike. ;)

I am honored to add another nephew to my brood, and my current one would be thrilled because he was mightily disappointed that he ended up with 2 younger sisters but no brothers.

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HAPPY NEW YEAR!
I plan to start the year right by lessening the lurking, which is one of my resolutions.
Thanks for being ever wonderful JB!

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@ Samsooki i so understand what you are talking about. Well we are 5 siblings and i am the youngest and the only one not married and without kids. So i practically grew with kids, so i know everything about changing diapers and what comes with it. I blame my sisters and brother for my lack of desire to have kids of my own. Talking about family, i miss them especially this season when i am away from home for Christmas and New Year. Thats the reason Sol Pharmacy and Assorted Gems are so relate able for me. A crazy bunch of big family, though am yet to finish them.

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Hahaha...global waming, Samsooki!! Use less disposable diapers if possible.

You know there are so much fuss about global warming. If you observed the people who attended the conference in Denmark, 60-70% of them are overweight or obese, and many of them also brought with them 1/2 dosen of kids...boy, that's the cause of global warming!! Overpopulated world which is full of overweight people!! The most obvious one is of the USA!!

So, the new decade resolution is not to push for the use of alternate energy or control carbon emission. The more practical resolution should be birth control and all those overweight leaders should go on a diet of one meal per day. They should first set an example and having their kids and babies wearing pants that have a big hole at the butt to facilitate easy release of pee fountain and poo. Agreed?

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Woke up this morning NOT feeling like P. Diddy...

All this week my parents have been crazily watching all fo the Gayo Dajuns. I, for one, just go to allkpop.com & briedly read about them than wasting hours in front of the TV. But what do I know? I always sit in front of my laptop watching dramas, hehe.

I really wish the boy groups will dominate in 2010! Not to be sexist of course but I'm just so sick of girl groups now (cough cough SNSD)

Happy New Years :)

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Happy New Year, everyone. Best wishes for a healthy, happy, and good-drama-filled 2010.

@ samsooki: onerous, phosporous, wasps-r-us, Bosphorous, vaporous. OK, only 2 are true rhymes, but with a little squeezing, the others could work.

@ chasen888 : I can see you've been saving that up for a while! Good to get it off your chest, eh? I agree with a number of your observations... somehow the relatively minor illogic of the clothes drives me mad... partly that there are so damn many when the character arrived with only a handbag or is supposed to be dirt poor, and partly b/c they are often just so awful. Sometimes it helps to remember it's just a drama, and sometimes it's fun to yell at the screen.

Samsooki's list of dramas watched in his review prompted me to try to recall what I'd watched this year. More than I thought, and way less than samsooki (!!) ... (* indicates they're 2009 dramas)

*BBF
Hana Yori Dango (ok, it's a J drama but it was a key drama for the year)
Pure 19 (finished it up after gap of 1.5 yrs)
Mr Goodbye
*Accidental Couple
*City Hall
*The Road Home (missed a few towards the end)
*A Daily about a small town (I can't remember the name, set in the 60s) (had a bus driver, bus company rivalries, a girl singer, a rich girl who turned out to be adopted from family of the poor girl singer, etc)
I Love My Little Sister (J drama)
First Kiss (J drama)
*Sons of Sol Pharmacy House
*The Man Who Can't Get Married
Coffee Prince (re-watch)
Hanadan (re-watch)
*You're Beautiful
Buzzer Beat (J-drama)
Hello, Miss!
*Triple (couldn't finish it)
Last Scandal of My Life
*Story of a Man (first 5-6 eps)

Favourites of 2009 dramas: You're Beautiful and City Hall, also Sons of Sol Pharmacy House. I liked Accidental Couple, but mostly for introducing me to Hwang Jung Min (sp?) and the younger siblings.

Thanks to Javabeans for a great site and a great group of OTers, and for introducing me to the notion of watching a drama while it's being shown.. with all the fun of the myriad commentaries from Dramabeans readers. It's been a very enjoyable drama year.

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Happy New Year everyone!

I'm going to be spending the weekend watching bowl games and maybe try to catch up on 'Loving You 10,000 Times'. By the way, is this one I should keep watching? I have tseveral episodes on DVR and only finished the first two episodes so have to play catch up. Since it's so long, I'm trying to figure out if I should drop it. I don't know what I was thinking but I find myself watching the following dramas at the same time:

Angel's Temptation
Iris
Invicible Lee Pyung Kang
Loving You 10,000 Times
Rewacthing You're Beautiful
And about to start on Hwang JinYi

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@29:
Hwang Jini got duller by each episode for me. The only reason I watched it was because of Jang Geun-seok who is undeniably cute & innocent here. You wouldn't have ever believe he'll play a character like Hwang Tae-kyung in the future.

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Happy New Year 2010 - and the dawn of a new decade!

The 2000s have been spectacularly good to me, so I wanted to also thank my dramabeans family for being such an intelligent, funny, warm, soothing group of virtual friends to have. :-)

@ mookie, bspanda, serendipity, Taohua

Happy to report: the offiical TVB release of the Duke of Mount Deer is AWESOME! Great video transfer with miniscule degradation (for a 25 year old drama, they must've kept it in an airtight safe), and most importantly for everyone here at DB, it has very very good English subtitles! (I'd give it an 8/10, but you will understand exactly what is being said, what is going on, and even the flavor of the dialogue, which involves some rather colorful cursing from our wastrally hero).

This is the first time I've seen Duke with English subs, and first time I've watched it with English subs (to test it out for you guys, I'm going back to the Chinese subs shortly). The box set is gorgeous, with a subtle golden burnished color, with two mini-boxes inside, each with a cover of Andy or Tony.

Duke is the one drama that made me interested in Chinese history (much like watching sagueks has made me interested in Korean history - thank you E. Wagner!).

Anyways, I'm going to track down the box set of Legend of the Condor Heroes asap, since it's clear that these TVB releases are worth collecting.

@ mookie

This is a reply your last post in OT 115, but thank you for summing up the Louis Cha novels and their importance in Chinese pop and academic culture in modern times. I improved my Chinese reading skills solely on reading Louis Cha and Ni Kuang novels, LC for the wuxia and politics, NK for the sci/fi and X-files meets Alias. One of NK's heros - Yuan Zhen-hsia, is my ultimate novel love, I love that man, too bad he's floating out in space somewhere last I checked (yo, NK, bring the good doctor back to earth, m'kay?).

When you are LC and you've written your magnum opus like you did with Duke and the Cauldron, yeah, you can call it a career, but I sure miss his storytelling and wish to god he'd give us another novel. And his wuxia novels really are the Chinese equivalent of comic books, with its own code of conduct and mythology.

Funny thing with LC though, he creates the wulin code of conduct, and then spends various novels (mostly in Wandering Warrior and also in ROCH), ripping it to shreds for its false modesty, pretend chivalry, adherence to form over substance, and the way martial arts leads everyone to the pursuit of glory and accolades at the expense of their own souls.

I learned a lot from LC, and my fave novel is also Wandering Warrior.

Oh, and I'm no expert in TVB golden age dramas (that would be @ mookie) - but I did watch a heck of a lot of them as well as Taiwan dramas in the 80s and 90s. And I can say without a shred of doubt and can debate it with anyone - the only dramas which hold up well with time and can be re-watched by a viewer today are the TVB classic adaptations of LC novels from the 80s. The other random TVB dramas are dated, all the Taiwan dramas are ridiculous and overwrought. But the combination of amazing source material (LC), with the best actors in a generation (Andy, Tony, Leslie, Chow Yun-fat), and all the production teams behind what would be THE golden age of HK cinema in the 90s - yeah, you've got some gems that remain as relevant today as they did in the 80s. And these gems created the drama monster that I am today. ;-)

And I'm pretty much all k-dramas now, but still, I credit HK dramas for getting me started.

Lastly, CHUNO in less than 5 days!

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Happy New Year JB and all the rest of the JB family!

Cheers to Sons of Sol winning the Editors' Pick for best family drama! It was an awesome depiction of family with all its foibles, dramas and inspiration, especially the feuding dads, Brutus with grandad and of course, the brothers Sol. Here's to more good K-dramas this year.

Success, prosperity and health for everyone this year!

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Oh....I'm craving 떡국 (dduk-gook: rice-cake soup)! :(
My mom's cooking some right now, and my brother's family is on its way over to my parents' house. I already gave the kids their New Year's money, and I had some dduk-gook last week, but it's not the same as having it on New Year's Day. :(

random: look what my hubby found on youtube and wanted to show me -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN21lcvIsvM

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Happy New Year Everyone!

I don't even think I'd be able to list the 2009 Korean dramas I watched this year let alone the Japanese or Taiwanese or Chinese. I honestly don't think I watched that many that were actually 2009 dramas.

I can only really list a few (Korean - Taiwanese - Japanese) :

Assorted Gems: Five Stars; My review of it would totally echo Hjkomo's.
Return of Iljimae: Four Stars
Loving You 1000 Times: Since I stopped watching at episode 24 (for now, I will go back to it), I can't really give a good review of this. But it's one of those dramas that definitely isn't the best out there, but it doesn't suck either, and for one reason only do I keep watching: The Main Couple.
Will it Snow for Christmas: Four Stars (for now...it'll go up or down depending on if the main characters get together in the end or not...).
Autumn's Concerto: Such an adorable drama based on one little character that I fell in love with within seconds of his first appearance. The main leads would also make a very adorable couple and I hope that happens soon! Definitely Five Stars here, especially since it's not the stereotypical Taiwanese drama.
Black & White: I don't think I need to say anything about this...that hasn't already been said by multiple people in multiple open threads. Five Stars.
BOSS: The only Japanese drama I watched this year that was actually from 2009. Well, the only one I finished. I'm a bit behind on Mr. Brain and Love Shuffle. I'm hoping for a season season, but I don't know if that will happen. Five Stars.

I hope I can actually manage to watch all the 2010 dramas I have on my list before the end of 2010.

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Happy New Year to you all! May we all have a happy and healthy 2010.

I hope you all have your New Years meal underway - ours is hoppin John, cabbage and sausage this year. The blackeyed peas bring luck, the greens money and the meat strength....or something like that. It's a good hearty first day meal anyway! (food obsessed much?)

Someday I'll out myself here to explain just how I ended up as momosan. LOL! Because if any of you meets me IRL, you are going to be going WHAT?! especially given my rant about Dru Hill in the last OT. 8-)

I'm reaching back into my Abe Hiroshi locker and queuing up Change for the next j-drama; and I'm going to try Invincible Lee Pyung Kang while waiting for Chuno. The kid is back at her homebase as of tomorrow, so my journey down j-drama highschool stories is hopefully drawing to a close. I tell ya, when you find Nobuta wa Produce a serious tearjerker, it's time to grow up and watch some saguek. Whew! Actually many of them are quite good - rewatching Dragon Zakura was fun (and has probably ruined me for God of Study), as was Gokusen 1 - that and scary stuff are genres that j-drama does quite well - but mentally I'm about 12 now from watching too many of these in a row.

Actually, I believe I'll queue up some Torchwood and enjoy a little John Barrowmen before watching the end of The End of Time and the exit of one of the best Doctors ever. Ah Ten, it's been fun. Sigh.

Other than Chuno, what's coming up on the radar?

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Happy New Year to all!!!

Since us lurkers are sharing a bit, I thought I'd share my own start with kdramas -

Way back in 2004, there I was on maternity leave with my new-born daughter in my arms, yet oddly addicted to So This Is Love (yes....a daily!) What was this??? Who knew this kind of entertainment was out there??!!! This was the pre-online days for me, just local cable, and I had no idea what I was in for. First me, then my husband became hopelessly addicted (via VHS, no less!!!). I would call him every day to taunt him about what exciting new development had occurred. And my daughter just slept and pooped!

Over five years later, we are more addicted than ever.

Samsookie - don't worry about the bad influences on your little Ji Hoon; my Cora is a perfectly normal five year old who doesn't speak a word of Korean (or even read english very well) but thinks Kim Sun Ah is just about the coolest woman on tv. Go figure!

Now, on to more great drama in2010!

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HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE!!!!!!!
The end of last year marks my first full year of kdrama addiction and I can't wait to see what this year brings!

(I don't know if I allowed to post this but b/c it You're Beautiful related I give myself permission):

A New Years Present for all the YOU'RE BEAUTIFUL and 2PM fans (I know you're out there), the SBS Gayo Daejun parody subbed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rwaWK8IrH2Y

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happy new year to all!

javabeans - thank you for this site that has become part of my daily routine..

may all the bloggers in this site have all the necessary inspirations they need to bring us witty, funny and thought provoking blogs - on this 2010!

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Happy New Year for all may 2010 be a happy and a joyful year for all and hope everyone's dreams and hopes become true this year ..
and thank you JB for having us all grouped here under this wonderful site of yours..
am from the middle east and I've recently found my way to Kdramas about a year ago and I've been addicted ever since and then your site for me is just as the icing on the cake :p ,, love to read ur insightful thoughts and opinions about different dramas not to forget your awesome recaps :D

wish u all the best and a another year filled with Kdramas :D
cheers for all * note i'd like to hear what everyone did on the new year's eve ;)*.

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Happy new year Javabeans, and happy new year to all the people here^^
@ Samsooki: I haven't yet congratulated you on your son"s birth so let me wish you the best to you and your family.
I hope 2010 will be an interesting year drama-wise and I thank you Javabeans in advance for the amazing recaps you will provide us^^

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Happy New Year!! Thank you so much for the past few dramabeans.com posts with the reviews and awards recaps and episode recaps. I feel a bit spoiled! =D

And I had managed to watch Black and White (tw drama) before 2009 ended- began it last weekend and finished it a couple days ago. I didn't think I was going to live up to my goal. The drama was addictive and the acting and plotting was very suspenseful. However, there were some really annoying logical holes and Ying Xiong's behavior was out of line for me at times.

I've also been watching the j-drama Untouchable- which is another there-is-a-conspiracy-by-a-higher-power type of drama. It's been pretty good so far!

are there any upcoming taiwan/japanese/korean romantic comedies coming out within the next week or two? I sort of miss following dramas in real time with the crazy suspense of waiting for episodes to come out week after week.

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Wishing everyone a healthy peaceful funny 2010. Happiness is overrated.

@chasen8888
I enjoyed your raving and ranting and agree with so many points you made. I want to make some points myself but I am so lazy. So appreciate your enthusiasm and passion.

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chasen8888, I am an addict too. I started watching in 2007. My first kdrama was Dae Jo Young. I was blown away by the quality of acting, the costumes, the story and the good looking men!

After that I never really looked back at American TV shows or movies. The only reason I recently connected my converter box to TV is so I can watch the last season of LOST.

I love kdrama and jdrama because I learn something new and interesting. I've watched dramas and movies that made me look at life situations with new eyes.
I now read quite a few blogs belonging to people that live in Korea and Japan.
I'm listening to new music and really loving it.
So, it has been an interesting journey all starting with one kdrama.

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Happy new year everyone! :)
Wishing you all happiness, health and fortune!

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Happy New Year!!!

I thought I'd have time to marathon dramas during my holiday break, but too bad I didn't. I have started Dal Ja's Spring and Bad Family, though. I hope to finish them before Pasta starts on the 4th (I doubt it).

So excited for this year onwards; I'll be seeing Gong Yoo in action again. Weee!!

@samsooki
What about "poisonous", even "dangerous"...kekeke...

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happy new year, everyone! it's been quite a year of dramas, so let's hope more good stuff is on the way! javabeans, thanks for keeping this blog, i always pop by for news and recaps, and it's such a nice place to be. thanks for all your hard work!

@samsooki, congrats on your new baby! do you and the missus plan to have more kids?

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Hi everyone, AKEMASHITE OMEDETOU!!

I can't believe it's 2010 already. o_O

Thank you so much, Sarah, for keeping us all up to date on all things Korean pop-culture, and for your awesome recaps. Thanks again, to all of the guest bloggers, recappers, and reviewers for doing an amazing job on all of your projects this year. And finally, thanks to all my fellow viewers/readers/commentators for helping to make DB such a lively and informative place!! ^^

Well, it's time to go help mom de-Christmas their house. *sigh* this may take all week... XD

Everyone have a great year!!

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@ mookie

Re: the Yang's Saga:

"but I rem they ALL looked freakishly yumcakes in their outfits, it’s not just those regular wuxia rainbow coats, it’s Saint Seiya-esque ARMOR and headgear and WEAPONS (ie equivalent of Chuno’s bare torsos+ DIRT&sweat)…. omgomgomg"

Ha ha ha, you are killing me. Yes, yes, it was the ultimate fan service in so many ways, but for the ladies, TVB dolled up Andy, Tony, Michael, Felix, et. al. in the most kick-ass military warrior outfits in the history of the wuxia genre. With SPEARS, too! (the Yang brothers were renowed at their family fighting technique, The Yang Family Spear - either that, or the spears were stand-ins for their, um, "prowess").

When you made reference to Saint Seiya (i.e. Knights of the Zodiac), I almost spit out my morning coffee, now THAT is a blast from the past. Beyond Robotech, Transformers, G.I. Joe, Gundam - there was Saint Seiya in the coooolest outfits and special powers in the history of Japanese manga. My brother had all the Saints dolls, and I would make them fight the Robotechs. Way to bastardize the universes.

Anyways, back to fan servicing, k-dramas need to do it once in awhile, it really becomes just a magical meta moment for us. I am happy with either samsooki's space cowboy odysessy, or even my silly magical powered brothers, cuz ultimately, we want to see our fave actors/actresses in one production so we can watch it over and over again.

I'm off to watch either Avatar or Sherlock Holmes, I'm leaning towards the latter, in a RDJ mood with a side of Rachel McAdams. Not even Signourney Weaver with her Stinkfoo sweatshirt is enticing enough.

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Happy New Year to Everyone! Wishing you all happy, safe and healthy 2010! And a big welcome to all the first time posters!

Chuno-time is almost here! Looking forward to all new dramas starting next week--the year is already starting off well ;)

@ockoala
Thanks for letting us know! I'm placing my order this weekend and I'm super-excited!

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