Have I mentioned I was able to go to bed. yesss <3

For the purposes of this discussion, they are irrelevant.

“If you really think this, you don’t know anything about women.”

It’s simply true. Why is it that you deny it? Is it because it establishes a difference between men and women? By the same logic you may as well deny having a vagina.

“It is clear that we are talking about the Western world, not Outer Absurdistan.”

Not really, we were discussing women in general (even those in Outer Absurdistan).

“When it is said that women are less “visual” than men, it means that women don’t respond strongly to a man’s appearance (they often completely disregard it), or to porn.”

If you really think this, you don’t know anything about women.

It is clear that we are talking about the Western world, not Outer Absurdistan.

“Both men and women are visual creatures because humans in general are visual creatures.”

When it is said that women are less “visual” than men, it means that women don’t respond strongly to a man’s appearance (they often completely disregard it), or to porn.

It isn’t. ”

Yes, it kind of is. In many countries it can get you killed.

“I don’t see what’s so difficult about admitting that men and women are different and respond differently to different things.”

I’m not quite sure what you mean by that but if you refer to the “visual creatures” thing: Both men and women are visual creatures because humans in general are visual creatures. I don’t know were the opposite idea came from and why so many men seem to believe it but it’s just not true.

Which does nothing to alter the fact that these are both very popular.

@54 “YES, it can happen.”

The point was that porn is trash.

“again… really?”

Yes.

“maybe there isn’t as much “male sexualization” in the media because it is controled for men?”

This is a feminist myth.

“or because woman expressing sexual desire still kind of taboo?”

It isn’t.

@55 “Females. We do have hormonal need of the sexual kind , you know?”

And your point is…?

I don’t see what’s so difficult about admitting that men and women are different and respond differently to different things.

Guys in korean entertainment with abs are in dime in a dozen today. Most get pec implants to supplement their gym regime but Lee Jung-jae has been around for quite some time. He has topped little polls here and there for his ab-worthy body but i think it is time he has his share of limelight. I hope this movie bags something at Cannes, if not for him, then Korea as a whole