Episode 6 of Mary Stayed Out All Night postponed
by javabeans
Two major events have taken television programming priority in Korea, resulting in the pre-emption of a number of regularly scheduled shows this week. Included in the bunch is Mary Stayed Out All Night — so, no recap today.
First off, the recent North Korean bombardment on a South Korean island has sparked international outrage and concern, and has been the subject of special news reports on all three broadcasters. On top of that, there’s also the 2010 Asia Games in Guangzhou, China, which will continue through the end of this week, closing on Saturday, November 27.
Thus we’ll have to wait another week for Episode 6 of Mary Stayed Out All Night, originally scheduled to air today, November 23. SBS pre-empted variety show Strong Heart, although it did air a new episode of Giant (which was on at a later hour), while MBC pre-empted episodes of daily sitcom All My Love and daily drama Stormy Lovers.
As for the attack: On the 23rd, North Korea fired onto Yeonpyeong Island, located just south of the maritime border with a civilian population of about 1,600 and a military presence of 1,000. Two South Korean marines were killed, while 16 soldiers and 3 civilians were injured. This act of aggression comes eight months after the sinking of the South Korean Cheonan ship that killed 46 sailors. Read more in the following articles (in English) from Joongang Daily, Reuters, and New York Times.
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51 ikaw@ako
November 23, 2010 at 6:55 PM
i didn't know the relationship between the South and the North Korea was that bad.
i don't understand why these people go such length just to prove a point.
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52 archaenon
November 23, 2010 at 6:56 PM
Hopefully North Korea chills out, I'm not sure what they are playing at, but I think if they went into war, China won't back them up like they think.
As for MSOAN, not sad, not sad at all. Now there can be more time concentrated on eps of Secret Garden.
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Endroine
November 24, 2010 at 10:22 AM
OMG ARE YOU ON HERE TOO O.o
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53 brookeeve
November 23, 2010 at 7:08 PM
I come back better educated than only an hour ago!
I feel certain that this will not turn into WW3. Both Russia and China have stated that they are not cool with what's going on. If we can stay united on this issue, then I think that NK will feel compelled to step down. I do not feel that China will back NK because they are making way more money off of the US's debt than if they were to actually go to war with the US. That would only hurt them. I would also like to point out that we are all upset with NK government, not with the NK people.
I pray that the NK people are safe and that this action does not make their already grim lives worse.
I pray for the families of the SK people who lost their lives. I hope that they are comforted by knowing that the world is mourning with them.
I pray that the governments of the world will take a stand together and realize that no one ever wins in war. I pray that peace prevails, and alternate solutions are sought.
I pray that the North Korean government is dissolved, and that others with more noble intentions take over.
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anais
November 23, 2010 at 8:56 PM
Actually, my concern lies not with NK getting Chinese or Russian backing but with NK creating a new set of alliances, one that is comprised of developing nations intent on having access to nuclear technology. We already know that NK has ties with Iran, for example, via nuclear technology. If NK is able to find an alternate power and economic base, the fact that China is already much more vested in the status quo (i.e., friendly relations with the US) won't matter as much to NK.
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brookeeve
November 23, 2010 at 10:21 PM
There's a lot that I want to say, but that I know I shouldn't say. I don't mean to be purposefully vague, so I hope that you don't think that I'm speaking down to you or that I somehow think that you are a slow child. Truthfully, I respect the intelligence of the people on this website. Please understand that there are things that I cannot say.
1.) Last year, the United States spent 48% of the world economy on our military. This is not the first time that they have done this.
2.) Nuclear weapons are awful and horrible and dirty. Most of the Great Eight, as they consider themselves, don't even use them anymore because they are 'old fashioned.' There is something out there a lot worse.
3.) China will not back North Korea unless it is beneficial to them. The only country the US truly needs to concern itself with is China. Iran and SK do not have the people, land mass, economy, or scientific advancement necessary for the US to concern itself with. The only thing that will stop the US from squashing something like this is concern over civilian casualties... and although that is something to give everyone pause, if the US feels that we are threatened in any way this will no longer become a concern.
4.) China is not prepared for a war with the US. They will be in 4 or 5 years, but not right now. They do have some advancements, but they cannot touch what we have now.
5.) The US never felt threatened by Iraq. We still do not feel threatened by Afghanistan. We have fought 'fairly' over there in order to preserve as many lives and even land and resources as possible. Should Iran and North Korea feel comfortable enough to threaten the US or any other country with nuclear weapons, they are screwed. China realizes this. Russia realizes this. This is why they very quickly spoke up condemning these acts. If you will remember post 9/11, Saudi Arabia bought ad time on the major networks in America declaring solidarity and alliance with these actions. This was not a dumb move, and China and Russia are both following suite.
This is what you really need to concern yourself with:
1.) NK can count. They realize that Obama (who is the most peace loving or weak president we have ever had, depending on which side you listen to) only has 2 more years in office. They do not have a lot of time to act as most of the polls show that it is unlikely he will be re-elected.
2.) If the US is pushed into war, (and as allies of South Korea, this is a strong possibility) NK cannot afford an extended fight. This will cause them to act much more violently and rashly.
3.) I have heard rumors of NK experimenting with biological warfare. THAT is what scares me more than anything.
I can't think of anything more that I can or am allowed to say. I'm just prayin' real hard that everyone stays safe and that our snipers have really good aim.
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anais
November 23, 2010 at 11:45 PM
I agree with so much of what you've said. Just a bit ago, I was thinking how quickly US would abandon South Korea if such an alliance proved strategically disadvantageous.
But again, my concern lies not with the US but with the countries beginning to acquire/develop nuclear technology or biological weapons. As you say, China, Russia, US, and others who have a lot to lose know the futility of violent confrontation. Unfortunately, I am not so confident about countries like North Korea, where there is so much internal volatility that could explode unexpectedly. Again, I'm not so concerned about those who are calculating. I am concerned about those who aren't calculating but have access to destructive power.
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anais
November 23, 2010 at 11:50 PM
Oh, but this part:
I don’t mean to be purposefully vague, so I hope that you don’t think that I’m speaking down to you or that I somehow think that you are a slow child.
That sounds awful, despite the disclaimers. I'll just accept that you didn't intend the not so great choice of words and laugh it off. Yes? :)
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Viola
November 24, 2010 at 4:43 AM
I hope you don't mind me stepping into your discussion Anais. :) Brookeve is a teacher in a rather stressed school system. That might have lead to the choice of words. She is also one of the most frank and caring person I know, and the least condescending to boot. So, yes I would laugh it off. :)
anais
November 24, 2010 at 7:16 AM
Hola Viola, thanks for the confirm. I remembered Brookeeve from the homosexuality thread a while back and knew she likely had not intended anything negative.
brookeeve
November 24, 2010 at 11:50 AM
I love you Viola! You are the best little sister on the planet. And Anais, I realized what I said could be interpreted as rude to the extreme, and I apologize for that. I explained a little better at #76, so I hope that you read that and forgive me my arrogance.
anais
November 24, 2010 at 6:16 PM
No worries. I didn't think you were being arrogant. Just unintentionally less than optical choice of words. Happens to everyone.
anais
November 24, 2010 at 6:17 PM
Ha! Case in point!
Just unintentionally less than optical choice of words.
That ought to be "optimal"
soni
November 24, 2010 at 7:38 AM
Brookeeve very informative, I don't know why you shouldn't say the things that you want to say. I loved your post....more please? Can you do a comparison between China and Russia, how do these two countries see one another?
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soni
November 24, 2010 at 7:43 AM
I meant to say the politics between China and Russia.
brookeeve
November 24, 2010 at 11:49 AM
I answered your question the best I could at #76. I hope that it helped!
a
November 24, 2010 at 10:46 AM
"The US never felt threatened by Iraq."Agreed.
but the US is quite fickle when it comes to their relationships…
Pray tell who armed the taliban against the soviets?
Who propped up Saddams regime initially?
I dont think the South can be too sure of full US support..
and if China does choose to back N.K even partially (in the case of an escalation of conflict without fully fledged war) it could be the beginning of China as a fully fledged superpower.
The US does not have (minerals/oil) to gain from S.K
As for obama he is no different from any other US president, he might not spew bushisms every other minute but policy wise i think he is not averse to picking a fight when necessary/ in the best economic/strategic interests of the US
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brookeeve
November 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM
Okay, I'm probably going to go into this a little deeper than what you wanted, but these are the questions that are on every single website when people want to criticize American military policy. Soon, I'm just going to start copying and pasting my words on those other sites, but I want to answer your questions here 'cause I can write in a higher academic tone and that makes me happy.
The United States armed Afghanistan against Soviet aggression during The Cold War. When we were over there training them, we also brought ideas about "educating women is cool," and "you should wait until a chick is passed her 12th birthday to marry her," and "science is SOMETIMES more accurate than religion." The Taliban, a religious extremist group was formed from some of these members, and they didn't like that knowledge gave their people power and therefore ruling them would require more than just some holy writings. With the advent of global communication, this gave even more knowledge to the people they were trying to rule. Knowledge is power, and that isn't just a saying we teachers try to push into your heads in order to get you to study. When the Taliban attacked the United States, their stated reasons were that they did not want the US to corrupt the members of their religion with pornography and the view that women were to be treated equally. The Taliban is not Afghanistan, who's government and people are actually pretty jazzed that we're hanging out over there (or at least, when my brother was stationed there, that is what he told me).
Bush Sr. helped Hussein maintain power in Iraq. I would also like to point out that at the time, he wasn't committing genocide against 40,000 Kurdish people and funding terrorists. If you think that we should maintain peaceful relations with someone who thinks that's a great idea just because we were friends with them in the past, there is nothing that I can tell you that will change your mind.
I think that South Korea can be fully assured of US support, as they have helped us in Iraq and Afghanistan, and the only true problems that we have are trade negotiations over US beef and cars. SK has been a friend to the US, and has continued to try and help out with the disastor that was Katrina, our oil spill, our national defense research, our economic crisis, and our education system. Just because the news hasn't figured out how to be unbiased doesn't mean that there aren't more information sources out there. I think that this is the only thing that you said that bothered me.
China won't back NK. It makes no logical sense at this point. They have trade relations, but they don't need the trade; NK does.
I don't like Obama just like I don't like Bush just like I didn't like Clinton just like I didn't like Bush Sr. I could care less what party is in power because nothing changes except the amount of money that gets taken out of my paycheck. I voted for Barr in the last presidential election so that I could complain about our government with a clear conscience. I knew that Obama was going to do exactly what he has done, and I knew it was going to make me mad, which it has.
54 mattever
November 23, 2010 at 7:10 PM
So sad to hear about it. I hope they can resolve the matter peacefully and no more killing.
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55 ar_arguably romantic
November 23, 2010 at 8:01 PM
I know people are hoping for a peaceful resolution to this and to the entire war between north and south korea, but I feel like a peaceful resolution is a very long way off. This is the second strike within a year. Though no one wants war, I don't think anyone in South Korea wants to let this slide either without punishment. I wonder if North Korea will try to deny that they fire this one too.
Even if Kim Jong Il and his entire family gets killed (especially that heir of his, I'm crossing my finger that this miracle will happen someday soon), there is still an entire government of officials who wants to keep this regime so that they can continue to profit off the fear, blood, and sweat of the other 95% of the population. And with technology today, you can really keep track of every single person, where they are and what they are saying and doing. Channels of information are more tightly controlled today than 50 years ago...and even 10 years ago. Even in the days of absolute monarchy in the 1600s, the control over people was nowhere near today's. I'm not sure we will see a peaceful North Korea in our lifetime.
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anais
November 23, 2010 at 9:03 PM
Ditto.
When East Germany fell in 1989, I was full of belief that North Korea too would fall once its economy proved unsustainable. I never imagined that North Korean regime would prove so shockingly totalitarian, demonstrating complete disregard for the welfare of its citizenry.
Ever since I watched the State of Mind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVBcYEV6Wgs or http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0456012/), I have come to believe that a euphoric, peaceful reconciliation like the fall of the Berlin wall is in Koreas' future. I do believe, if it ever happens, it will be bloody and a part of a larger, likely global war.
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anais
November 23, 2010 at 9:09 PM
Er.... that ought to have read:
Ever since I watched the State of Mind (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVBcYEV6Wgs or http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0456012/), I have come to believe that a euphoric, peaceful reconciliation like the fall of the Berlin wall is DEFINITELY NOT in Koreas’ future.
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Viola
November 25, 2010 at 12:45 AM
Thank you very much for posting the link Anais. I found it very enlightening. :)
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56 isabella
November 23, 2010 at 8:12 PM
When politicians make horrific decisions from their ivory towers to go to war, the only outcome for everyone is death and misery. Especially for women and children. My prayers are with both the Coreas and may they find a peaceful solution without resorting to arms.
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57 caryatid
November 23, 2010 at 9:00 PM
i hope that NK will just stop hurting their blood brothers... many blood have been spilled for one man's quest for supremacy...
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58 aray
November 23, 2010 at 9:15 PM
i thought after this internet era there will not be another "FEODALISM"
North Korea should changed its name into The Kingdom of Korea..
With Kim's dynasty and absolute power tends to corrupt
and let their own people suffer in hunger and poverty
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59 tamu
November 23, 2010 at 9:18 PM
GOD ...
NK got nuclear...
hope this kim jong un has clear mind and good heart
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60 Carinne
November 23, 2010 at 10:00 PM
Missiles and bombs, or bats and balls... I don't like such actions misused to overcompensate for whatever is short in the pants of NKoreans. Such shame to see more of them lack wit alliancing peace.
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61 maja
November 24, 2010 at 12:17 AM
I,m worried about the people that are affected by this incidenthope this ends well... so worried one of my S. Korean friends is enlisted and am so worried for him... hope he is safe as well as for all Koreans North and South...
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62 Vecchio
November 24, 2010 at 12:31 AM
I hope people don't forget China has been supporting the existence of this poor third world country for half a century. Appalling.
China is in no way, with "us". And by "us", I mean the alliance of South Korea and the NATO countries.
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63 Net-chan
November 24, 2010 at 1:27 AM
I heard about that on the news yesterday. Seems like China is not supporting North Korea this time. Good!
But I was shocked to hear what the North did! They said (on the news) that it was the 1st bomb attack ever since 1953 i.e. the Korean War (seems like it is not true given the fact that a boat was sunk 8 months ago. Bloody French journalists).
Hope all the families are well. And hope nothing bad will follow...
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64 MissKaNia
November 24, 2010 at 3:41 AM
it's a good thing, though. I hope Mary's writers and producers can come up with new ideas and twist and changed the somewhat boring storyline
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65 stellarley
November 24, 2010 at 4:07 AM
That is so sad. The whole world is watching and waiting for the result of this unfinished wrath between the 2 countries. But do not worry because the whole world is also praying for peace. Violence was never and will never be the only means to finish any conflict. Everybody will just suffer, most esp the innocent civilians. I'm from the Phils and we perfectly understand where you're coming from. We also have domestic conflicts of our own and until now has never been resolved. Who knows when will it end.. every body is praying..
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66 alex
November 24, 2010 at 4:46 AM
So sad ! So shoked !
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67 zoeraindasherbenji
November 24, 2010 at 4:54 AM
Perhaps the reunification will happen when Kim Jong Il has passed on and his son takes over. The youngest son, right, and perhaps some persuasion by both the UN and the South Korea would work on the young one. I'm just saying young people are more impressionable.
But, when the two Koreas are unified then I think we'll see the economy take a turn for the positive. Because there's hope for peace (and that makes investors happier) and South Korea has to rebuild North Korea.
I am just about amazed how North Korea's military technology continues to make progress when Kim Jong-il continues to hoard money for himself. And how is it that he's so rich anyway? Who pays tribute to him? Seriously, which country is helping North Korea?
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November 24, 2010 at 6:12 AM
Read comment #62
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zoeraindasherbenji
November 24, 2010 at 7:22 AM
No, from what I read, China is standing on the fence at the time of the Cheonan warship. Wen Jiabao is not backing North Korea while it is sorry and distressed about the fight.
Wen Jiabao is not going to back North Korea. Read again. I understand that China is North Korea's main trading partner. But, that does not mean that they are backing North Korea in full force. The world would hate China if they started positively supporting North Korea. They could either get on South Korea's side or stay on the fence. Right now, I think they should stay on the fence and maintain friendly relations with as many countries as possible.
I don't think China would want a war with the United States when they can just take over the world economy in 5 to 10 years. Why would they want a war? Nobody fights with arms and rifles when they can use money.
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Severine
November 24, 2010 at 8:02 AM
I completely agree. Although China has been "supporting" North Korea as its biggest trading partner, it does not mean that they would support them in a war effort. The Chinese government's greatest priority (and it has been for several decades now) is economic growth, and in order to achieve that they need economic stability. This explains why they have relatively amicable ties with a lot of its volatile neighbors, including Pakistan, Myanmar, and North Korea. China needs peace at its borders in order to advance its economic objectives; therefore, they will never choose to support North Korea if it chooses to declare war on South Korea.
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anais
November 24, 2010 at 9:40 AM
The thing is that, although China may not back North Korea in a war, it does continue to support North Korea's existence by maintaining trade with the latter. And while China continues to function as an economic intravenous drip, North Korea buys itself the time to develop additional trade partners and nuclear technology. As a historical counterpoint, one reason for East Germany's collapse was the collapse of USSR's economy.
I don't think anyone believes that China or Russia would back North Korea in a war scenario (were a war to actually ignite), but they certainly would not let the US use the opportunity to make further inroads into their Far East Asian backyard and potentially into their own territory. That is where war games scenarios get complicated.
Anyhow, the sad reality is that the Koreas would be the loser in any scenario different from the status quo and its weakness in relation to the larger powers renders it valuable primarily as a geopolitical buffer/portal, as has been the case since the 19th century when imperialistic ambitions of various countries converged on Korea and Manchuria.
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zoeraindasherbenji
November 24, 2010 at 11:21 AM
China's economy cannot fall. It cannot. A lot of people are counting on China's economy. It should not fall, if it falls, there will be another financial depression. Seriously.
If North Korea were to get attacked, millions of people would flock to China for refuge and shelter and when that happens, share prices will fall. Not a good idea since there are so many factories and companies in China. You know all that made-in-China stuff, prices would go up. You get the idea. Which is why China should provide food and fuel to North Korea, because besides Kim Jong Il, there are still people living there. At the rate NK is aggressively pushing SK, China might just have to make a stand and take SK's side for good without offending NK. That's the tricky part, how is China going to say yes to SK without hurting NK? There's no way out.
anais
November 24, 2010 at 6:20 PM
Yeah, totally agree that the Chinese economy must not fall. That would suck for all of us. Just mentioned East Germany/Russia to contextualize.
You are also right that China is vested in not having NK fail.
zoeraindasherbenji
November 25, 2010 at 3:20 AM
Oh.. yea, sorry, I thought you 'wanted' China's economy to take a turn for the worse so that North Korea would go down.
zoeraindasherbenji
November 24, 2010 at 7:27 AM
Here are the articles I've read.
http://edition.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/asiapcf/11/24/china.north.south.korea/
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Asia-Pacific/2010/0528/China-leans-toward-South-Korea-s-view-of-Cheonan-warship-sinking
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6AN2IW20101124
Which really does not back North Korea. While China may 'express' regret and pain at the loss of life, they're on the fence. Kim Jong Il's personal wealth, I want to know where it comes from. Because I don't know how the North Koreans live with their so-called leader leeching off them.
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68 pohonphee
November 24, 2010 at 6:40 AM
Hope God gives Kim Jong-il and Kim Jong-un some peace of mind and heart...
Imagine what the world will be if all the money that use for war can be used for buying food for people in hunger, building home and buying cloth for families who suffer from cold, constructing schools and supplying good books for children, or providing medicine for patients with no money?
No one win over a war, they are all lost (this include countries who take side) because they choose to solve problems through war.
Hate WAR, love K drama...
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brookeeve
November 24, 2010 at 11:47 AM
True, true my new little sister. Someday, I'm going to come pick you up and we're going out drinking... as soon as I cross the ocean!
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Viola
November 25, 2010 at 12:41 AM
You are right sis, no one wins a war, and it is always the innocents who suffer for the blind ambition of the few. I watched the documentary on Nk, and it breaks my heart to see the faith they have in a leader who doesn't care about them at all. The powerful plays at politics and draws borders with the blood of the innocents.
We seriously need that plane unnie! If we just stop to pickup each member of our family, we would end up doing a world tour promoting international and interfaith peace through Kdrama love. :)
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pohonphee
November 25, 2010 at 3:20 AM
*Hugs* two of my beloved sisters. I like your idea Viola. A plane is surely needed here.
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69 adela
November 24, 2010 at 6:58 AM
ya sea en ingles, espanol, koreano, frances, chino u otros idiomas la verdad q es preocupante que no secen las ostilidades entre las dos Koreas y yo y me imagino que muchas de las seguidoras de los dramas estamos en un estado realmente de preocupacion con respecto a los actores que recientemente se han enlistado en su servicio militar, por ellos y por tantos otros. y que no deberia de ocurrir lo que esta pasando y mucho menos que muera gente por casusa de motivos irracionales...
either in English, Spanish, koreano, French, Chinese or other languages the truth is disturbing that the ostilidades secen between the two Koreas, and I imagine many of us followers of the dramas really are in a state of concern regarding actors who have recently enlisted in military service for them and many others. and that should not happen what is happening, much less people are dying for irrational reasons
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70 Meli
November 24, 2010 at 7:53 AM
Until man learn how to control the war within himself He will continue to inflict war upon everyone else
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brookeeve
November 24, 2010 at 11:45 AM
This is a very good quote!
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71 Su-yeon
November 24, 2010 at 8:14 AM
The shelling was politically motivated, I think, and this tension will not long last. Me and S. Korean are already accustomed to live with such a hot-tempered neighbor. Government will find a peaceful solution for this matter, simply because we have a lot to lose. And further, I believe that any form of war cannot be permittable at any expense. We should always keep in mind that over 70 milion innocent civilians are involved in this situation.
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72 ACP
November 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM
Hey! I don´t know if its true but I just read in a Brazilian Site that M3 was on air yesterday, but just more late than usual. Can it be possible?
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73 ACP
November 24, 2010 at 9:02 AM
Hey! I don´t know if its true but I just read in a Brazilian Site that M3 was on air yesterday, but just later than usual. Can it be possible?
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74 MEK
November 24, 2010 at 9:10 AM
i think south korea need to take all the willing people out of north korea and just bomb the hell out of them!!! Just blow them out of the face of the earth. They've been antagonizing the whole world with their threats and mischevious actions and its now time for someone to just stop them...
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75 ACP
November 24, 2010 at 9:22 AM
"However, ‘Mary Stayed Out All Night’ fans will feel relief and be able to watch tuesday episode, which was postponed from 22:00h to 22:55h (Seoul Hour), after handball game."
in http://s2ingayo.wordpress.com/2010/11/23/kbs2-cancela-o-music-bank-desta-semana/
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76 brookeeve
November 24, 2010 at 11:12 AM
Reasons why I have to be purposefully vague: I have worked on National History Projects (Oral History Project, Military Personal Historical Accounts, etc.) within the United States Library of Congress, and some of the information I have learned I have had to sign documents stating that I would not release that information to the public until the year 2020, when that information will be reviewed and then deemed either irrelevant or I sign another piece of paper that agrees again that I will not release information for another number of years. Also, I live in an area North of Memphis, where there is a Navy Base that has been 'shut down.' I have a habit of frequenting drinking establishments when I need to pick up my in-laws, who have a certain Clearance within the United States military, and when drunk are very entertaining to me. Also, I can figure things out very easily, and explain them very easily (which is why I'm a teacher).
I also want to say I think of Dramabean's readers as the smart fans of KLand. I don't ever find that I have to think of smaller words to explain what I'm thinking or feeling when I post in this forum. It's a nice thing.
There was a request that I analyze the situation between China and Russia. This is going to take a little bit of time, because these two countries have almost nothing in common and its hard for an outsider (me, an American) to guess what they are truly feeling for and thinking about each other. I can give you the American view of what I have observed, but for a more accurate account I hope that we have members from those countries who can correct my mistakes, of which I am sure there will be more than a few.
As far as I understand it: Russia is having problems with its own government at this point. There are rumors of the Russian Mob being in charge of the police force and or the military in Russia, and the government also having ties to the mob. It is hard for anyone to predict how a mob or a gang will handle things. This is not to say that the mob is badly educated or that they cannot make rational decisions, but based on my experience with gangs and their mentality, I do not think that Russia will help or hinder North Korea because they see nothing in it for them. My best guess is that Russia views China like this: they're worried about them advancing because they will soon be a Superpower, and as of yet they have no Official Alliances with them that will help them, but they aren't freaking out because China still has a ways to go.
China is a little different matter. I and all of my friends haven't been able to really just chill out with our Chinese exchange students. Russians are easier because you can get drunk with them and I am a firm believer in "in vino veritas." Whenever Chinese policy has been discussed around me, the Chinese nationals who have been around have kept their mouths firmly shut. So I'm going to guess based on things that I have picked up on. China thinks that North Korea is backwards. No one is very supportive of a straight Communist government anymore. China is very busy becoming a Superpower, and does not have time to deal with North Korea acting the fool. Also, China could care less what Russia is doing because they're having a lot of internal problems.
About the nuclear war: North Korea might have uranium. They might have a few centrifuges, and the technology to make a "dirty bomb." This does not mean that they are capable of what the United States and its Allies are capable of... and I write this with checking my documents about what I'm allowed to say. This is not me talking down to anyone. Let me point out to you that we had the capability to release a nuclear bomb when we had rotary telephones. We spend more money on weapons development than anything else. We now have cell phones... are we still really worried about nuclear bombs? Also, it takes more than uranium and a centrifuge to make a dangerous nuclear bomb. Sticking uranium in a missile will not make a nuclear bomb. It takes a little more science than that.
China doesn't care if the US does anything in Asia. Truthfully, they could simply demand that the US repay the loans taken out by both Bush and Obama, and when the US couldn't pay they could demand half of our land (which if they were smart, would include all of the MidWest, cutting out our food supplies) or all of our gold reserves, making the US Dollar become worthless. The US will go over there, probably make friends with the Chinese, support South Korea, draw pictures with a few of our missiles over North Korean airspace, and then come home. We have no advantage in gaining more inroads into Asia, unless those political analysts who are predicting a Chinese/American Alliance based off of the rules between the Chinese/American Alliance from WWII have any credibility whatsoever. And that delves into conspiracy theories of one world government and whatnot, and I don't want to get into conspiracy theories at this point (although most days I find them fun).
Keep in mind that I say these things with the hope that North Korea has one foot in reality. We are going to have to wait until more developments occur. I can say that the United States has officially deployed several of our warships to the Yellow Sea today with the excuse of martial drills.
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soni
November 24, 2010 at 4:05 PM
Thank you so much, I knew I would get an answer today from you. I envy your knowledge and grateful that you took the time to share it!
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Viola
November 25, 2010 at 12:51 AM
unnie, you are amazing! I learned so much from reading your posts. :)
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zoeraindasherbenji
November 25, 2010 at 6:10 AM
Whoa, thanks for the information...
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77 meow48
November 24, 2010 at 6:25 PM
read the above. when people are hungry, things like overthrowing their govt... like reuniting a divided nation... become secondary to survival. a dictator who is most successful, keeps its citizens down and out to prevent them from having time to ask themselves how can i make this better when i have mouths to feed. it is a proven strategy that withstands the history of time. I pray that sk and nk difficulties do not escalate. i remember the cold war... hiding under our desks at school for bombing drills... so naive back then. now nk has nukes. and will show no restraint in using them as a bargaining chip, or selling them for that matter. it is a sad thing that the money could not have been spent on feeding its people... of helping the people grow and improve and become a nation with dignity and pride. I can only pray that sk can still keep showing restraint after getting two black eyes. but really, how much more can one take? i will keep my thoughts and prayers for these things to be resolved peacefully, without conflict and without awakening any sleeping dragons.
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78 esther
November 25, 2010 at 2:55 AM
kim jong il is just a dickhead. i wish someone could kill him so there wont be further deaths. its just that one person who needs to go to hell , so innocent lives arent taken.
i know this shouldn't be coming out of a christians mouth but sometimes i had wished this message could be sent to him personally and that he would be reading all of it. so he knows how many people hate him and his careless plans.
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79
November 25, 2010 at 5:39 AM
just a thought... maybe NK leader wont act like that if HE doesn't have someone behind him. Why does NK leader hate SK so much?
In this situation a mediator is needed but i hope it's not US co'z it's seems that most of the time when US tried to get in between NK fired up (its just my observation).
"IN WAR NO ONE WINS EVERYONE IS A LOSER"
PEACE :)
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80 Allie
November 25, 2010 at 2:40 PM
It's amazing how big political events can affect other facets of society, such as the entertainment industry. This is macroeconomics in the working!
On a different note, it's quite disheartening when the innocent citizens of both parts of Korea want to unite but the political animosity hinders any progress toward such peace. :/
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81 bluericeball
November 26, 2010 at 3:23 AM
bummer, bummer, bummer..
just when the story starts to sizzle, then this happens...
but what the heck, its some serious stuff that is going on with the country... its sad to think that both Koreans (South and North) are going for each others throat again..
i pray that they will come to a peaceful agreement and not do harm against each other...
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82 weissman
November 26, 2010 at 6:29 AM
1. It took China twenty five years to recover from Communism and they are still working at it.
2. NK is governed by people interested in one thing and one thing only, continuing to govern NK. They will do that by any means possible, including international terrorism.
3. NK is both financially bankrupt and starving (25% of the NK population do not have enough to eat, and this includes the most vulnrable people, the elderly and small children). They only way the can reasonably feed their people is through hand outs from both SK, China and anybody else they get get food and money from including the US.
4. North Korea is the most militarized country in the world today, having the fourth largest army in the world, at about 1,106,000 armed personnel, with about 20% of men ages 17–54 in the regular armed forces.It also has a reserve force comprising 8,200,000 personnel. It operates an enormous network of military facilities scattered around the country, a large weapons production basis, a dense air defense system, the third largest chemical weapons stockpile in the world, and includes the largest Special Forces contingent (numbering 180,000 men).
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anais
November 26, 2010 at 7:18 PM
Scary. And what a waste. Thanks for the info - though I knew of NK's militarism, seeing actual figures is utterly shocking and appalling.
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83 Lady Seoul
November 26, 2010 at 10:25 PM
This really sucks bad.
On a bright note we'll have one week filled w/ 3 episodes of MMM! <3
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84 SadieStarr
November 26, 2010 at 11:11 PM
i was soo so shockd when i cme online and saw the headlines D:
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85 Dara
November 28, 2010 at 4:43 AM
Two episodes done, decidedly I 'm on it for the cuteness!
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86 weissman
November 28, 2010 at 8:50 PM
A note on China and US relations -the reality
The chinese hold more US debt then just about anybody else. You know what happens if the person how owes you tons of money goes belly up, you go belly up.
Which side will china be on if push comes to shove
Money talks every things else is just lip service
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87 Hohoho
November 28, 2010 at 10:55 PM
So sad for both parties and for all of us!
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88 yahoo!
November 29, 2010 at 11:49 AM
Pls vote for Jang Geun Suk & Moon Geun Young at
http://kr.promotion.yahoo.com/asiabuzz2010
JKS's #1 in both Asia & Male categories. MGY's #3 in Female category. Voting ends on November 30, 2010!
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