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  1. 51 Mylabyrinth

    Hello :)

    I have a favour to ask, pretty please…@ Korean speakers, have you seen this titled video on Youtube:

    “Mary Stayed Out All Night – Entertainment Relay 11.20.2010″

    It looks so lively and cute but I have no idea what they’re saying! :S

    I would love you forever!!!

  2. 52 supah

    Got back from a christmas do with my work colleagues and my outfit was sorta similar to this http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm96/javabeans122/drama/2009/xmas/snow1/xmas2-00011.jpg . Yeah, spotted a green feather hair accessory identical to this in a shop and knew I had to do this look. Sure am still in me twenties like (I swear!), but what can I say, Jo Min-soo inspires me.

    Which brings me to Song Ji-na–Kim Jong-hak sweeping classics; Sandglass and Eyes of Dawn. I’ve started watching the latter and I am quite simply enthralled.

    There was something so much more refined about that era’s dramas (i.e. no soundtrack being drilled into your head–nonstop, does heaps of good).

    Not taking away points from Comrades, it was a good war drama with a strong message to relay, but EoD is THE MOTHER of all war dramas. Gritty, disturbing, realistic, a tad propagandist (because that is highly likely how we roll in war situations — and why soldiers are bas– I mean, far from being ‘heroes’ and why war is shitty and all that). But still it retains an inspiring tone, and the camaraderie between the soldiers remains probably the most natural to date.

    What is it about that generation of actors that makes them so very inspiring and unforgettable? Especially the women. I was so taken by Go Hyun-jung, Lee Seung-yun, Jo Min-soo in Sandglass. Not to mention the female veterans in that drama; amongst them Kim Yeong-ok. If the men were phenomenal the women matched them.

    I can’t say Chae Si-ra in EoD is as sprited and tough as Hye-rin, their situations and characters can’t have been more different but I am equally as thrown aback by her. What an amazeballs actress.

    It’s pretty tragic, nay criminal how the current generation is lacking this calibre of actresses. Or if they can act well they’re not given the right kind of material to work with.

    Oh and IRONY! I remember I watched Giant’s episodes 8 & 9 with my brothers aaaaages ago when those two episodes had newly aired, I had a get-together with them again last night to watch the final three episodes together. Guess what one of them walked in with? A bag of satsumas! Nooooo! Not satsumas, maaaan! :’(

  3. 53 Ladymoonstone143

    Happy Friday to all!

    2 more Fridays and it will be Christmas Eve….I bet everyone is hitting the mall this weekend…lol

    Planning on getting a tree this weekend. Hubby wanted a real tree which I just kinda give in..part of his Christmas gift…lol

    I will not be going anywhere tomorrow though until I can watch the raw episode of Secret Garden because it would drive me crazy if I am out and was not able to watch it…:))

  4. 54 teapot

    Me: “Carbonated Makguli, where have you been all my life?”
    CM: “You idiot, I’ve been sitting here in the market cooler next to the beer the whole time. Geesh, its just NOW you get around to looking at the label of the funny white bottle?
    Me: “Oh, c’mere you… no seriously.”

    • 54.1 John

      I was shocked to see it being sold in 7-11 tbh.

      • 54.1.1 teapot

        You clearly live in a much cooler 7-11 hosting city than I.

  5. 55 John

    As well as a recap of the year’s dramas(which is being done at the moment from what I read…) …is there a preview done for upcoming dramas in the new year?

  6. 56 kristin

    I’m trying to decide what drama to start next… just finished City Hall and finally got around to watching the last episodes of the Woman Who Still Wants to Marry. Show was good but fell flat for me near the end (happens all the time). Any recommendations?

    I was eyeballing Brilliant Legacy, Goong, or one of the early Hong Sisters dramas. I also LOVED City Hall and I’m really enjoying Secret Garden, are there other Kim Eun Sook dramas I should check out??

    • 56.1 John

      I’ve heard that Assorted Gems, Family’s Honor and Shining Inheritance were good. They are some rather lengthy dramas though.

      http://www.koreandrama.org/?p=674 -Family’s Honor. The female main character is sooo cute.

  7. 57 diadda

    For the the guy couple in MSOAN. Someone else’s handy work and they did an excellent job.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPZE46nqE4Y

    • 57.1 brookeeve

      Wow. That was amazing!

    • 57.2 Viola

      that was…. um.. yeah. Decadent. :) I think one person, who watched only one episode of Mary, asked if Mary was a regular girlxboy pairing drama after watching this! That just cracks me up.

  8. 58 John

    Watching My Girlfriend is a Gumiho…and man, the glasses guy’s face is so shiny….it’s unreal. He’s almost too pretty to be a boy.

    I don’t know why I didn’t watch this drama earlier..Shin Mina..WOW.

  9. 59 beggar1015

    Started watching Ja Myung Go. On Episode 6 right now. Surely I’m not the only one who has watched this while screaming “Get the baby! Get the baby! Stop talking and get the damn baby out of the water!!!”

  10. 60 Amg1

    Well somebody posted a link last week for a video link of the girl-band “Sistar”, I commented how the girl in the short shorts was very hot, than I commented that I hope that all the girls were over (18 the legal age here in the US), only to find out that one of the girls still 17 years old, so that brings the age old dilemma for me ;

    1- As far as I know all man (heterosexual) there is a “Primal Response” somewhere in the male brain when we see an attractive female, but the trick now days is that according to scientist woman are maturing faster than 40/30 or so years ago due to all the hormone additives in food, and I may say this not in man’s defense since I am one of them that some girls now days look so grown up at 15/16 years old that is hard to tell the difference and most times when we as men see those girls unfortunately we do check them out, and I will admit that our thoughts at those times are not very “Saintly” I may add.

    I will not condemn the girl-bands for using some choreography that is borrowed from “Las Vegas” strip if you know what I mean since I have indulge in watching those videos, but this is my question;

    Are we as an “Open” society trough the media “making: young girls grow to fast?

    I hope not , but at times seems to me that we may be doing just that!!!!!

    • 60.1 Jomo

      I don’t think there is anything inherently wrong with being attracted to attractive and provocatively dressed people. It’s not your fault that your mind is pleased by what your eyes are seeing.

      Art, in all its forms, has celebrated the human body for centuries.

      And, as far as women becoming mature earlier, I’m not too sure about that one. Remember it was normal for girls to marry very young and have babies as teens even in the early 20th century. We could theorize that men find women the most attractive when they are the most fertile.

      Do you thing that is that wrong?

  11. 61 belleza

    “Are we as an “Open” society trough the media “making: young girls grow to fast?”

    Nothing to do with open society, per se. It’s just marketing to get ajushi and general fanboy interest, just as every Korean male actor and idol nowadays are obligated to “show the goods.” The ajushhi have Yoona; the noonas have Yo Seung Ho. :D

    Also, the sensuality is still rather passe compared to the States or even Japan. For example, SNSD’s Japanese fanbase are girls, who look at them as sassy, empowerment exemplars. Why? Because compared to a moe group like AKB48 (who ran a music video actually depicting a love hotel scenario . . . something that make Americans flip out), they would be.

    That said, there is definitely a stark contrast between K-pop today and 10 years ago. Then again, there is a stark contrast between Justin Beiber and Justin Timberlake 10 years ago.

  12. 62 Karluhh

    I don’t get why Boys Over Flowers is so popular.For me, it was disappointing. After watching all seasons of the Japanese version first, I knew they had huge shoes to fill, and they just didn’t cut it.

  13. 63 Amg1

    I have been watching some live performances by the Japanese girl-band “Berryz Koubou” and even tough this is not my “cup of tea” I must admit that they are quite good since it is apparent that they do not “LIP SYNC” in concert like 99.99% of all the Korean Girl-bands, which is a shame, digital enhancements can do miracles for a mediocre singer, even tough this girls are not the best I got to give it to them because at least they do sing literally live at their concerts, here is some proof that!!!!

    : O }

    (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLNTiPAdeaE&NR=1)

    (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ-FVtSUvLs&feature=related)

  14. 64 supah

    Oooh! Amg1! Berryz Koubou!
    Funny you should mention them, I sorta like their Dchingis Khan (Jengisukan) cover. It’s the one song that Giant’s Mi-joo missed out on by not singing it. ”Nice brother, hot brother, go brother…”
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9mvNAeZQzdM
    Even the laugh; ”WAHAHAHAHA!”, it fits! Fun times! <3

    @janna
    Bro, where you at? Is everything ok? You’ve got me worried now, with what you said last time. (HUUG!) Come back! xox

  15. 65 Amg1

    *Vikii v.s Viki*
    (Or The Transition From Hell!)

    I think I am not the only one that has notice that the website formerly known as “Vikii” has change not only “Format but also their Name”. I am afraid that this may not be the best thing that has happen to all Drama lovers from around the world or at least the ones here in the US.

    The former “Vikii” format work great for most of us here in the USA and for most people from around the world, there was only one thing that the founders from “Vikii’ overlook from the beginning and that at the end may prove to be their demise, they “Infringe” on the “Copyright” of the holders of the original material.

    Now as you know I posted several articles about the changes in the American Law and how the guys at “Pirate Bay” lost their case in court etc,etc, so it was a matter of time before sites like “Vikii” may suffer the same misfortune.

    Not all the Countries that produce “Telenovelas/Dramas” will really bother to go after a site like “Vikii” since in a round about way its “Free Advertisement” for them even when they do not collect royalties when watch a foreign show. But the ones who do care as in the case of the Korean entertainment Industry all they have to do was to call the “Office of Homeland Security” and filled a complaint and believe me that they would have been shut down a long time ago.
    So now that they have finally gone “Legit” what does that mean for us the viewer?

    I do not thing that we need to worry about the Telenovelas/Dramas that are not being made in Korea since they have not so far force “Viki” to pay for the “broadcasting rights as far as I know ( I may be wrong) for right now.

    The problem arises from the point that once you go legit, now they need to compete against other “Legit” sites for the “right of broadcast”, and that seems to be where “Viki” has fallen behind, case in point they seem to have been having a hard time acquiring the “Rights” for the latest “Trendy” dramas from Korea (seems that Gloria and Playful kiss was the last shows that they acquired, I may be wrong again).

    Since the Korean stations are in the business of making money they will try to sell the rights to the highest bidder, and as we can see the site “DramaFever” has had no problem so far in having all the latest Korean Dramas in their play list, which in the long run is good for the general viewer ( but not for the hardcore addicts like some of us, that really sucks!).

    I believe that “DramaFever” have the “Right Idea (format) since they instead of going “Bootleg” from the beginning they did it all “Legit” by buying the “rights” of the dramas from the beginning, thus clearing all the problems associated with the “Open Format” that Vikii was build upon, I do believe that “DramaFever” not only has become the “primary purveyor” of K-Dramas here in the USA, but in the next five years they will be the “Biggest” one.

    I know that a lot of you are thinking that this is unfair, but I do not agree with that assumption since all free commerce is base upon “competition” and we the consumer at the end of the day we benefits from that, and besides I will not advocate for the braking of any laws, I am not being “self righteous” but we need to remember that this is a “Public Forum”.

    So than what’s next?

    Well in one hand we lost the ability to watch some of the latest “trendy dramas” from Korea, along with the ability to watch a drama that is about 98% properly translated, we lost the “One Big Family” feeling that once we had, on the other hand we still have the chance to watch the latest “Trendy Dramas” from Korea even when the subs are not the best, also we are not promoting “Piracy” when we watch a legit show, so all in all we still benefit. For me the future looks better I do believe that there will be more company’s that will get in the K-Drama bandwagon, and we all will benefit even more, furthermore I believe that if the guys at “Viki” are able to hang tight and transition properly they will still be a great force to reckon with (since this problem only affect us her in the USA)!!!!

    Below is an article concerning the “Vikii change”.

    ( http://www.cnbc.com/id/40568561)

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