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I really like Dong Joo's characterization. Haven't seen that kind of insecure beta-hero slowly growing into himself too often, and I think it's a big plus in any man's favor if he favors strong women he can admire and look up to. :-)
Sang Wook has something oddly shifty about him IMO... I know the drama doesn't intend the character to seem that way, but somehow I keep getting "not trustworthy!!" signals from him.
Can someone tell me who's the hero here....the eyes guy or the shifty guy? If it's the eyes guy, I'm not watching. If it's the shifty guy, I don't mind. Shifty is good. I'd take shifty any day over starey eyes.
Yep yep same here I really enjoyed it after watching it... at first it was kind of yawn worthy but the last couple of episodes have been pretty great and Changmin has been doing well as Dong Joo-- I like that kind of character that isn't perfect and he also isn't so cold hearted as most k-drama heroes, he's like a big kid who tries to act like a selfish adult but is really a soft teddy bear who crumbles before the one he loves^^
I actually like his acting more than the actress's even though I've liked her in her other projects... it might be the hair...
Ah, the hair. I'm having a hard time figuring out if I'd like her more with different hair. It's either her character, her acting, or her hair, but she's sorta grating to me. Why do these two handsome men love her annoying self so much?
I'm enjoying it too! At first i found changmin's acting kind of weird. But he's improving. The preview for the next episode is killing me! I wanna fast forward to monday!!
yeah actually really love it... didn't think I would at first, but it's gotten soo good! I adore changmin in it, which i was not expecting...I can't believe there are only 2 episodes left! aah...
Yes i have loved every second of it. The cute has killed me. In every episode there has been cute. and the crazy possibilities of who could end up with who even though from the first episode the audience has known who the main couple was, has been great. There were at least 5 viable couple combinations in this show. It must be a record for Kdrama. Yeah there are secondaries you know will never get the girl but when you look at the writing of this thing. Everything and everyone seemed possible up until episode 14.
I shall miss MAX TIME. where shall I get my cute? Lank God PIE is back or who knows what I might do.
yep still watching, and enjoying it...
I agree with you about Dong joo, he is a bit immature but not too much...i'm glad finally he has realised the truth :-)
Cant wait for next week...
I didnt really like Da Ji...
I really like it and not just because I am VERY partial to Joo Sang Wook. Haha!
Hard to believe it's almost over and it's almost hard to tell who Da Ji will end up with. I am really hoping she ends up with Joo Sang Wook, but I doubt it.
One more week :D
Out of sheer desperation, started watching this on Monday (the dearth of romcoms is killing me!); here we are on Wednesday and I'm so enamored with it. One glance at Joo Sang Wook and I was ALL IN. YIKES! What a perfect guy!
Da Ji is less irritating than initially expected--it's actually only the hair--keep waiting for the new hairstyle to emerge and thought the dress up scene would have more positive results. Her cheerful brightness is not as forced as these characters usually are, and she is glowing in a lot of the scenes where Joon Ho is looking at her.
It's interesting how they are unfolding the backstory in lil' tidbits as flashbacks as the affection seems to be growing between the two, unbeknownst to them. Of course they are hoping that we want her to be with Joon Ho, but like Sylvia mentioned, there seems to be a darkside to this dashing prince with the dazzling smile.
Dong Joo is growing on me, slowly. His standing up for Da Ji and the residents (what Gramps really wanted all along) is working on me as well.
Am trying to drag this one out as long as I can cuz there's really nothing out there after this (Sparkling subs are taking a while to come out). Thanks for a place where I can come and rant about this (lack of romcoms) and gush about that (Joo Sang Wook)!
Side note: it was interesting that he had to publicly address his "preferences" in the media this week.
Oh gosh...that was my first thought when I heard about this drama, too...I loved You're Beautiful, but his acting was just hard to watch sometimes and I would hate to see that repeated in this new drama!!
I agree, love Yonghwa. He just has that certain something. Looking forward to the drama & the new album. Sad that it looks like he'll be leaving WGM. Guess he can't do it all.
It's really a shame that he's leaving WGM. His time on that show has been fantastic.
And yes, true about the acting. There's something in his delivery that's so wooden. I would really like to see him adlib some of his scenes, because I think a bit of his natural charisma is lost as he's going through a script.
Goguma couple fans here on Dramabeans? Nice :-) It's strange having seen him as the serious, brooding Shinwoo and then getting to know his real personality. He's so outgoing! I think he'd do better in this role, but am still a little worried. He's definitely inexperienced, but he has some potential.
oooo,even im waiting eagerly for this drama...its funny (and i can be shallow at times),but da first time i see a drama with a pretty lead actor (with less than questionable acting chops) i barely notice as im too busy swooning over the eye-candy. its when i rewatch the drama do i begin to notice da lshortcommings in the acting department....haha
I don't know, I'm quite hopeful! Have you seen the CFs he did for Hazzy? He was well... not great, but decent! I can see him playing that kind of playful fun-loving character, not the broody quiet sort.
Hope everyone in Japan and those living in the Pacific rim a safe weekend. May you be able to spend it with your loved ones and may everyone be safe and out of harm's way.
I saw one aerial view and the landscape looked like it was littered with toy cars and planes and I immediately felt for the children and asked God to have mercy....
Same here. My mom is now being paranoid after she heard the news. And she tear up when she heard that our country might be affected by tsunami. She told us not to leave the house.
A really heartbreaking sight. The last time I glued onto the TV news for hours on was in regards to 9/11 terrorist attack. I can merely understand all the frustration and fear from families affected from the aftermath, and those who are travelling/vacationing across the Pacific Ocean.
And how lucky are you/we away from such direct geological impact? Stay safe to all!
"CRESCENT CITY, Calif. — Tsunami waves spawned by a devastating earthquake in Japan battered the U.S. western coast Friday, sinking and smashing dozens of boats at harbors and sweeping at least five people out to sea.
Four people were rescued from the water in Oregon, but one man who was taking photos in Northern California was still missing." Quote from MSNBC.
I'm really worried about my friends and host family in Japan! Heard good news from those I could get in contact with but still waiting to hear from others = (
And even after getting hit with the earthquake and the tsunami, they now have to deal with a long series of powerful aftershocks and a possible radiation leak. There is no break from the fear.
My foster parents live in Fukushima. I've lost their contact right when I get back to my country (on the night of my leaving I promised them I'll take care of my foster brother and sister. And I had every intention to keep in touch and take good care of them if they come to visit me). it drives me nut that I lost that paper where I wrote down their phone numbers and emails!
Keep thinking about them. And just now I heard that there's a posibble nuclear leak in the Fukuhima's surrounding areas!
Dear God, please, please take good care of them.
My prayers also go for all who are affected to have the strength and patient to endure this trial.
Yh I really hated that ending, wish they could do an alternative ending where yoon Ji Hoon doesn't die!! I really hate it!! I watch ep 19 and 20 without subs and now refuse to watch it at all cos of the ending!! Really annoyed!!
I thought it was too much to give up (his life) to nail the badie (evil chick). But i guess they were going for irony - to have him on the table and disected - shud have written in the evil chick on the table instead . . .
I'm (still) not interested in the current dramas airing, so I just may go back in time and watch an older drama.
I'm thinking of watching a Yang Dong-geun drama (because I've just been reading praises about his acting). I haven't watched Ruler of your Own World... maybe I'll start with that.
I'm watching Sunny Happiness in my spare time. TW actors' always seem to bug me because their acting is not subtle at all! Although I can see that Mike He's acting has improved.
Prayers for the families and homes affected by the earthquake and tsunami~~
My sis watched Ruler of your Own World, she didn't understand why people said it's really good. She thought that's the most boring drama she has ever seen. I haven't seen it yet, so not so sure if it's good or not.
I couldn't find anything to watch after Dream High and My Princess finished airing, so I started 9 End 2 Outs after Girlfriday's recommendation. I'm only 4 episodes in, but so far so good! I'd definitely recommend it too if you're into rom-coms.
i was in the same boat as you-- so i re-watched "coffee prince" naturally. GONG YOO needs to have a kdrama comeback. ASAP.
and now i'm watching "sunny happiness" because of what everyone said about it on last week's Open Thread! i'm halfway through, and so far, it's been really refreshing! such a change from the few t-dramas i'd seen...and sweet and simple!
Too funny! I just finished re-watching Coffee Prince because I've been bored since My Princess and Dream High ended.
But after reading the opinions above I might give Paradise Ranch a try. I had no interest before. It's what I love about threads like this! Drama Recommendations!!
I've started to re-watch Meteor Garden. I have both series I & II so I hope to relive a wonderful thing. My MG marathon is on pause due to global current events.
ha ha--"I re-watched Coffee Prince, naturally"
definitely my go-to drama to rewatch--
again. . . and again. . .
also thinking of giving Paradise Ranch a try after reading the above
(but, idol-actors. . . not my thing)
Just finished watching Sunny Happiness and love it.. think Mike He is great in it... after watching.. i figure i will go back and watch Devils beside you again.. just to watch a younger Mike He.
Also, I also just finished watching My Princess.. very sweet.. love the ending...
oh.. just want to say that I have finished 'The Devil' last week... omg.. it was so good... if you like 'Sign' and have not watch 'The Devil' should really check it out...
I'm only 6 eps in Sunny Happiness, but I also like the younger brother there. He's cute too. Hopefully though, his character won't become bad/annoying halfway through the run. :) (No spoilers for me!)
Do you mind watching historical dramas? if you have nothing to watch, then you should check out the chinese drama "Jade palace Locket Heart/Gong". It's like boys over flowers (better acting, imo) in the olden days. It's quite funny, though I normally tend to watch kdramas. First ep is a bet meh-ish, but it gets better (and funnier).
Can someone please explain why characters in Korean dramas wear glasses w/o glass? And now it seems to have become a fashion item with idols. I've seen many celebs on reality shows wearing just frames.
I have no idea...and can I just say that it causes some funny situations, because the other day my Korean friend literally just reached out and poked her oppa in the eye, because she was trying to find out if there were lenses in his frames, or if he was making a fashion statement!! LOL!!! :D Luckily he actually did have glass in them, or she would have poked his eye out!
well they do seem to carry off these weird (!) styles perfectly....where as we on the other hand look mighty weird n get lots of stare from the people..haha
it's probably so that there isn't any glare or reflection from the cameras/crew when filming, but they somehow feel that the glasses are vital to the character and choose to do so without the lenses.
or they just wear them for fashion. people are weird.
i thought so too, eye glasses gives reflection and glares which might not be good in the camera. It will be too expensive to wear non-glare ones when you don't really need it. If the stars is not use to wearing glasses like Park Shin Yang in all his KDrama, it will be inconvenient when it fogged, it becomes oily when u constantly touch it, etc. etc. So yeah i think that's the reasons why they wear eye glasses without glasses.
Hahaha, i actually really look on the difference of those eye glasses in Dream High and Sign =)
lol....so they are really wearing glasses w/o glasses?!.....I had a hard time focusing in the first few eps of Dream High wondering whether Baek Hee and Pil Suk were really wearing glasses or just frames...this was especially distracting in the eps with Yonsama cuz his glasses were huge and had glasses in them
I don't know why they do it as a real life fashion statement, but normally on TV, anyone wearing glasses doesn't have actual lenses in the frame. The lenses creates a glare on film making it hard to see the actors eyes and expression, so, they just leave out the lenses.
Some of the students at the middle school where I teach have been doing that since last year. It's quite a distraction as they can pass them around more easily since there are no lens in them. It's all about the look. O.o
i think it's just a fashion statement. some people really look good in glasses, but have perfect vision. i know a lot of people think it's silly to wear glasses without lenses but honestly, aren't a bunch of the things we have on our bodies useless and really just there for adornment? earrings, bracelets, basically all jewelry, belts and suspenders that don't actually hold up anything, changing our hair color, ties, tattoos, growing facial hair, hats that don't block the sun, hairbands that don't keep hair out of our face, summer scarves just to add color to our outfits. just have fun with it i say =]
So weird! I never noticed that the glasses were glass-less! Now I have to look again! I just assumed that they wear some sort of uber-expensive non-reflective lenses.
Oh, what a week...have been feeling under the weather, so I holed up in my apartment this week for a couple of days and treated myself to a 9 End 2 Outs marathon.
I loved the drama so much...I'm turning 30 this year and single, and have had my share of heartache and loss this year, so I seriously identified with the characters!! I laughed, I cried...I drank a lot of coffee...and in the end I really felt the catharsis that comes after watching a good drama!
Hope you all are doing well. I will be praying today for the people of Japan...so sad to hear about the devastation there!!!
I'm 3/4th of the way through that drama, and while I'm not in my 30s yet, it's been identifiable. The friendship in that series is something that seems genuine and makes that drama work! Love it muchly!
I totally agree...there's something so precious about that kind of friendship, and I feel blessed that I've been able to experience it myself...seeing it onscreen was a nice surprise, since it's rare in kdramas!
Also nice...no evil scheming ex! I mean, yes, there's an ex...but at least she's a normal human being and not remotely similar to the robotic fem-bots of most kdramas! I loved that the friendships of the whole group were given time, and that it showed how people who are friends can remain so even when they're going through various different stages of life.
The performances by Lee Jung Jin and Soo Ae were just pitch-perfect, in my opinion...they were joyful and touching at the same time, and the chemistry they had onscreen was wonderful to watch.
It made me miss my best friend that just moved back to Korea so much, but I think in a way it was nice to be reminded of what a beautiful thing that kind of guy-girl friendship really is...even if it doesn't end up in a romance.
I actually just finished the drama and I love how the ending was open-ended to some degree. Like real life, everything doesn't get tied together with a perfect bow at one specific point in time. Stuff comes together, one at a time.
This looks like something I could have written. I watched a that drama a little while ago, and it really struck a cord, because I am also single, insure about my career choice, and turning 30 this year...
Growing up is not not easy or maybe it's getting harder for me anyway... but it's all about about attitude, I guess. Let's make the last year in our 20s a GREAT one! :D
Yeah...this is definitely not where I thought I'd be when I was turning 30, but I'm determined to make it a good year nevertheless!
My heart is still over in Korea right now, and it's been hard dealing with that. But I'm making myself start taking action even though I don't feel much like it, and so I'm about to apply for the Graduate Certificate in TESOL program at a university. If I get in, I'll study there for a year and then after that I'm planning to go to work in Korea.
One thing this drama emphasized is the unpredictability of life, and I really appreciate that - the older I get, the more I realize it's about making the most of the plotline life throws in your direction, and recognizing that you can find joy even within the unexpected. :)
umh,portia...ur planin to go work in korea,so a small question-is it difficult to work and live in korea if u dont know korean and just understand basic n i really mean basic kdrama korean but fluent in english? coz im planin to go work there someday after ma graduation is over
I think if you are teaching English, you can probably find other English-speakers to interact with, since there's a large population of English teachers in Korea right now. From what I understand the usage of English in Seoul is pretty high (well, for Korea anyway) but outside Seoul it's much harder to find English-speaking people.
I would think that you might at least want to study a basic level of Korean before you go over - that's what I'm doing, and my Korean friends have suggested it because they say that even though English isn't that hard to find, fluent English speakers are still rare in Korea. At the very least, having some knowledge of Korean (reading and writing, some speaking) will help you get around the country without as much difficulty as you might have otherwise - plus, that way you'd be able to make more actual Korean friends and not just stay in an English-speaking bubble!
@portia
thank you for you're reply,actually im not going there to teach english,im a civil engineering student,and many korean construction companies come to my college for recruitments after our graduation,so im considering appling for a job with placement in korea.
Place where i live,korean classes are not available,so im triyin my best to learn korean through net. Can you refer me a few self-tutoring korean language books?
Not necessarily. She does have a relationship with a college student but it's more about the best friend relationship between the main leads. It was really good though, I highly recommend it! I marathoned it in about 2 days earlier this week.
What a tragedy that happend in Japan :(
It was really unespected. I hope that Hawai and the other places under the alert of tsumani don't suffer the same impact as Japan.
Peace to all the people that lost their life in this catastrophy and strenght to their families.
its terrifying to see,the devastation in japan.hundreds of lives lost n massive infrastructure damage all around.....the infrastructure can be rebuilt again,but da lives lost can't be replaced.i feel helpless,sitting here at home,warm and safe with family and loved ones when the people there are homeless,hungry and in danger..........let us all pray for the people of japan
I was watching youtube clips of the devastation in Japan and it makes me appreciate that I live in England where there's basically no natural disasters. I pray for the people in Japan (and other countries which are alert for tsunamis).
This is my first time posting on the Open Thread, even though I've been coming to this site for a while!
Has anyone seen Midas yet? The trailer for that show looked a little weird, so it's not on my to-watch list as of now...
And as much as I'm psyched that Yonghwa is going to have another movie role with Park Shin Hye, I really hope that he work on his acting. Love his songs to pieces but his acting not so much.
Subs are slow to come down, but I enjoyed episode 1 and look forward to episode 2. Jang Hyuk is sweet and Min Jung is warm--didn't see the trailers so don't know what the weirdness is about.
Maybe since the tsunami warning has everything closed in Hawaii today, it's a good time to catch up on some kdramas!
There has been some damage from the tsunami on the shorelines, boats, harbors, and some roads are closed. Lots of people were evacuated (including hotels in Waikiki) in low lying areas and are waiting to return home.
I have watched up to Episode 4 Midas. Can't say it is keeping my interest. I was expecting it to be better.I like JH and LMJ acting in their previous dramas, but not this one. Surprisingly there is zero chemistry between them. They were supposed to be an engaged couple in love,but it just did not translate. The plot so far is predictable and boring. Hopefully the pace will up, and get more interesting. I am ready to drop it.
I've been watching Midas, like it. As said in an earlier posting somewhere, Midas is very similar in plot/structure to the Tom Cruise movie, The Firm. The Firm was about a small law firm that laundered money for organized crime. The law firm in Midas supports a rich family. The story seems to be about crossing the double-crossers, up to episode 4 I think, can't determine who/how major players will prevail.
Also watching New Tales of Gisaeng, really like that one, can't wait for each weekend's episodes. It's being recapped on JustDramas.
Looking forward to watching the new Song Il-gook drama, going to wait for a few more episodes. Glad to see something with a little 'meat' after all the 'fluff' of My Princess, Dream High, and Mischievous Kiss, etc.
Watched Bottom of 9th, 2 Outs. It's OK, but like most dramas, could have been tightened considerably with 10 episodes max.
Watched Sunny Happiness, it also wore me out with the shilly-shallying, dilly-dallying. It was a very long trip to get from here to where we knew they would end.
Finished Single Daddy in Love, still don't know what that was about.
Currently also watching Three Dads, One Mom. Cute. Similar to Three Men and a Baby.
Want something that keeps me on the edge-of-my-seat! Something that isn't predictable. Suggestions?
So does everyone know that Kim Soo Hyun's dad was actually the lead singer in a K-rock band in the 80's called Seven Dolphins? I yelled at my computer screen when I read the news, "That's totally Sam-dong!!!" LOL. Now we know where he got his singing talent. I wonder if anyone can find clips or soundbites of his dad singing? I'm so curious to know what he sounds like. :P
Praying for the victims of the Sendai earthquake/tsunami.
Having lived in Tokyo for 4 years, I experienced several earthquakes, but can't even imagine one of this magnitude. Prayers to the people of Japan and all the Pacific Islands in the path of the Tsunami.
Happy Friday everyone!!!!...yay for all those who like me are starting spring next week and have no work to do and plenty of time for dramas!
but there are no current dramas to watch so I'm going to be marathoning a bunch till 49 days start...right now I'm watchin Sunny Happiness and Sons of Sol pharmacy!!....I absolutely adore Sol Pharmacy and their characters, it doeant trump LiB which was the first family drama I watched in terms of directing, acting and story but I still love it and this is the first time I'm wishing I was the part of some fictional Korean household....lol
I wish I was just as into Sunny Happiness though.....Its cute and I can see how it is different from so many Tw dramas I've seen in the past but it hasnt completely drawn me in yet and idk if its because I've been really stressed and cant focus or if its the drama....eitherways I hope I can get into it soon....Also really excited for 49 days after watching the 10 min preview yesterday...it looks cool!....it remind me a bit of Shining Inheritance and Prosecutor Princess in terms of tone so I think that should be a good thing!!!...Anyways happy weekend everyone!!!!
when i read in dramabeans a few days back that huyn bin and song hye-gyo are over....my first thought was-" omo she is single now,hope she wont get hooked up with lee min ho'... as lee minho is always going on and on about how much he admires her...
if nobody in OT has claimed till now,then can i officially claim lee min ho as ma husband....pretty plezzz...("_")
that is exactly my thought when I first saw him in BOF. I didn't like him at first. Idk why. I don't even bother to watch it when it was airing here in our country despite of all the hype it's getting.
But when I watch Personal Taste (I watch because I like the premise of the show) I fell in love with his character. I eventually like him as an actor. He can act. AND he is ridiculously good looking.
I understand that some people like him and some people don't. People have different interest.
@ MJP, as pumpzz mentioned-different people,different taste. well hez my "personal preference" haha...
BOF was a royal mess,lee min ho was the only saving grace in it...:-)
I know LMH doesn't need me to defend him, but I can tell you why I would watch him in anything.
Lee Min Ho is surprising.
From some angles, his looks are average.
The perm they had him in BOF was the most unattractive style I have ever seen on a leading man. It shouldn't have been allowed, but somehow he won over audiences even with it.
From some angles, and with the right hair, he is a god.
Despite how young he is, he can take on the aura of a much older and more mature man. I agree with JB about LMH being the main reason BOF succeeded despite its hotmess-ness.
At 23 years old, with no leading man experience to call on, he carried the show.
He started as a model, right? He shouldn't have been able to do this.
He was able to do angry/hateful JunPyo so we all loathed him as much as JanDi, but then, somewhere, we started to see him as sad and lonely.
(I'll take LMH's angry over SSH's any day of the week.)
He also does the "I cannot tell you how I feel, but I love you" face very well. Is the word "conflicted"?
In interviews, he is a big goof with no sense of entitlement, and shares embarrassing stories about himself willingly.
I don't like the CF work that much, because I think it's all one note "Look at how freaking hot I am! I would totally wear this sexy outfit IRL, and all this guy-liner, I would. And see that gorgeous woman over there trying to get my attention with little or not clothes on? I don't."
So in other words, I should see him in something other than Boys Over Flowers? Okay, I am willing to give him a chance. I will check out some of his other work then. I'll start with Personal Taste. Thanks for the honest replies!
So awhile back I was serching online for something cute to use as my display pic. I love Hello Kitty and saw someone with a Hello Kitty tatoo, wearing the Hanibal Lector mask...sick right? So I went online searching for it.
I checked under "Emo Hello Kitty" and I found a nude one. Yeah, Hello Kitty with boobies and a vajayjay.....OMG! I can't bleach my eyeballs enough. Totally traumatized by this, cus naked cartoons are just wrong!
Hyun Bin's enlistment made me sad coz he'll be away for two years!! I will miss Binnie :( Also, his breakup made me shocked, I wish them both all the best.
Yoon Eun Hye is being rumored to be the female lead of the upcoming drama Sweet Scandal and guess what........... Lee Seo Jin and Park Shi Hoo are the male leads!!! I like them both but I prefer Park Shi Hoo to be the male lead. Gosh, I really hope that she accepts the role. :D
As for the dating news, Finally, Go Soo is dating and I'm very happy for him.
What are your thoughts on Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah? It was rumored that they are dating (They're both in Paris now) Some took pics also. :D
I pray for Japan. God bless us all. Enjoy the weekend. Let us all pray for for Japan.
Jung Woo Sung is sexy and intense, while Lee Ji Ah is... just MEH for me. I don't see it, but I want JWS to be happy and settle down soon (he is after all approaching 40)...
With a lot of things happening in the world right now (and Im sure in many of your own worlds, too!) I have mixed feelings that there is nothing much that is exciting going on in the kdrama landscape. Bit sad that MP is over but also happy that we can have some semblance of normality in our lives, hahaha.
I've decided to focus now on nutrition, particularly for kids.
So Im reading "Optimum Nutrition for your Child's Mind: Maximise Your Child's Potential" by Patrick Holford and later will chew on "What to Eat" by Marion Nestle.
No, I dont have my own kids...just kids that I care for during my volunteer work. Im trying to find out how we can give better foods that will significantly help them to improve how they learn.
It's exciting to learn about this in the context of how the east is now rising vs the west, oriental medicine and western medicine, and in the backdrop of Tiger Mom/Amy Chua's book, Robert Compton's 20 Million Minutes project/documentary film and Dambisa Moyo's books.
Any life-changing books you are reading these days, OT people?
As far as children, there is a tiny one called Brain Gym that among many things, stresses the importance of water for brain development, and how so many kids tend to be dehydrated.
Another parenting book: NurtureShock, by Po Bronson and Ashley Merryman talks about how parents need to avoid non-specific and non-action related praising.
It reminds of the difference between the
English idiom:Good job!
vs
Korean idiom: You worked hard!
Thanks, Jomo. Should read on that Nurture Shock. I know! In YouTube there's a channel by 2MillionMinutes and they feature one clip where it says how kids in India/China are not classified as either good in this or that subject but rather if they fail in that subject the understanding is that it is not a permanent thing and they should therefore work on it so that they can improve.
I just finished "Women, Television and Everyday Life in Korea"by Youna Kim, a Korean who teaches at the London School of Economics, based on interviews with women in 3 age groups and 2 social/economic classes. The research was done 10 years ago, but has given me a LOT more respect for the choices made by the women characters in the dramas I watch. Brought out the centrality of family but lack of individual options faced by Korean women, at least 10 years ago.
I got it at the University Library, but if you don't have access that way, a public library may be able to get it on interlibrary loan. Sometimes there is a charge if it comes from an academic library, which I think this one would; probably a lot less than buying it, though.
Thanks, isabelh. I think Kim Youna should write another book about the internet communities that grew from the TV dramas that are now easily available online and the vast dubbing/subbing/segmenting/recapping/reviewing explosion that these media spawned in the last decade. Maybe starting with the people here in DB :-) but I guess the people here can write much better about it than any learned scholar. Any takers? :-)
Happy Friday everyone!!!! I hope you all have a great weekend! :D I'm off to do some heavy duty spring cleaning! :D After I am done I will relax by watching some Paradise Ranch and Sunny Happiness :D :D HUGS to my OT friends and family! Now I'm off to take some Claritin before I start :P
GDragon in a Kilt :D Enjoy!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teK9URDmQjY&feature=player_embedded
I guess it is time for us to count our blessings...So horrible...
I have a question for ceux qui parlent francais.
Does it ever confuse you when they someone asks a question like
"Do you know why that happened?"
and the response is what sounds like
"Que sait?"
I automatically hear "Qui sait?" so it makes sense!
My prayers are with the People of Japan. For those of you on OT that have friends and family there. I pray they are safe and that God is watching over them. Ameen.
Here are the countries that a tsunami could hit:
The National Weather Service list includes Japan, Russia, the Philippines, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Australia, Fiji, Mexico, New Zealand, Guatemala, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Panama, Honduras, Chile, Ecuador, Colombia, Peru and the United States.
May God watch over them. Ameen.
"Que sait?" is the colloquial form of "Que sait-on?" (literally "What does one know?" or "What is known?" or "What do we know?" and idiomatically "Who knows?").
Par exemple: "Pourquoi n'arrêtent-ils pas de se parler de la fiction Coréenne?" "Pfft, que sait?" "Why won't they stop talking about Korean drama? Pfft, who knows?" :D
Oh, hahaha! I COMPLETELY didn't realize you were talking about Korean. Then, no, I have no effing idea. Hahaha. Wow, Lahlita. Reading comprehension FAIL.
Where did you hear that? Sounds too weird for my French brain. But yes, it's awesome being able to make the connection automatically :) I speak Frenglish all the time at home and with other bilinguals (I'm a Montrealer). Makes for some interesting conversations.
I asked my Korean tutor about that, cause I also kept hearing what sounded like French. She told me this comes from 그 ("that") and 사이 ("between"), so you get 그 사이에 ("meanwhile" or "in the meantime").
My dictionary writes it as I just did (그 사이에), to mean "meanwhile." My tutor, however, wrote it as 그새 (which sounds more exactly like what I hear) and defined it as "in the meantime" or "already."
I think she was trying to explain that it has the sense of something happening between two other things, or along the way between two actions or states, or interrupting two actions... like you'd say "You're back from teaching already?" with the 그새 coming between "teaching" and "back."
Or the other example she gave (probably more applicable to dramas) is you might say this to someone if they promised they wouldn't gamble or smoke, or cheat on you or whatever... then it'd be with the 그새 coming between the idea of your promise and the gambling (or whatever), and meaning something like "You couldn't keep from doing that again, already?"
Now that I'm thinking about this, though, I think I'm going to have to ask my tutor again, cause I also feel like I hear this in response to questions like "Why did that happen?" -- in which case what I hear in French makes perfect sense -- but I'm not sure an answer like "already" or "meanwhile" makes complete sense. Maybe it's just the way the question/answer translate into English...
My friend is in Japan teaching preschool English. He said that he was stuck in the school with the kids when it hit, and that they all spent the night safely in the school because they couldn't go home. He said that he's safe, but that there's a lot of dead bodies and destruction.
He also married a girl over there, and she and her family are safe, so praise God.
Everyone pray for the people affected by the earthquake in Japan! May God give patience to those still buried and those who survived. May He help us learn the right lessons from these tragedies. May He guide the rescuers' hands. May He increase us in love for the poor and the oppressed.
Yes, but there is an alleged hide away list now being circulated in the Internet. Some big names like the former chairman of Lotte group, the former CEO of a major news agency and the current CEO of Olive9!!!
I am not talking about those ladies. I am referring to the guys that appeared on the list!!
You can pretty much assume that many of the actresses who made to the top, especially those do not attend good university and have some family background are falling prey to those guys!! It is sad, but those guys have the money, power and connection. And those ladies what air time, fame, and money. Hence, it is pretty much an exchange and some of them feel that they were short change or overtaken by guilt, shame and conscience, that's the reasons you see so many suicide recently.
JJY is not the first and never will be the last one!!
I know, but there would not be "those guys" if the actresses or whoever were not willing to make the uneven exchange.... The rate is not to their advantage.
Ppl know what's going on and chose to turn a blind eye because of all the "cute"....I'm not a fan of the "cute" for obvious reasons....
Which "cute" are referring to? It is best for us to speculate about the "cute". Many actresses' names are now being implicated. You or I can draw up our own conclusion looking at the authenticity of the list and names. But, what I can tell you is that, it will be covered up eventually, and the press will do self censoring, under the name of protecting the Korean waves.
Uneven exchange is very subjective. I think it all voice down to equate lust with greed for money, fame, recognition and popularity. That's the price of aspiring to become a star!!
Yes, in her alleged letter, she alleged some of her seniors who were once advised her to take it easy, because they had far worst treatment as comparing to her. So, names of actresses who attached to her former agency were implicated. Two of them were veterans and one is very popular, and the other one is attached to a very popular husband!!
If this happened in the US, once the wives found out they would divorce their husbands (eventually, after showing their support for the cameras) and take half of whatever he owns for the children....
I think that it is a big mistake to blame actresses for giving in to the pressure of the casting couch. That is really blaming the victim. Men who pressure their subordinates for sex in any workplace, whether in the corporate world, the university, or in the entertainment industry need to face the consequences of their criminal behavior!
Good point, i bet those guys will sure have the best lawyer in town to help them to argue along the line of bill, especially the 89-year old Lotte's former chairman!!
Well, how can we be sure of what bill told us, and what's the truth? LOL!!!
It is an exchange, I dare to argue that those actresses were not victim!! Those actresses had to ask what 's their own real motive is? If what they want is quick route to fame and money, they really have no one to blame accept themselves. It is an exchange!!
I agree it may not be entirely truthful to make any woman who has participated in a casting couch scenario to be a victim. Many do enter into the arrangement freely, greedily, and willingly, with eyes wide open. But that may not be the case all the time. Also consider how so very young many aspiring actresses are (ouch bad sentence). The casting couch mentality is sadly commonplace and agents, etc. may also try to pressure actresses into reluctantly agreeing to trade sexual favors. Furthermore, it's inherently an imbalanced position where the man has the position, power, and leverage. Not all the women are victims, but it still sickens me that there are men who abuse their power and prey on all that youthful desperation.
My heart goes out to everyone affected by the earthquake and tsunami in Japan. I'm not particularly religious at the moment, but I'll pray for them as well.
Yes, point taken that some of them were so very young. However, it is an unwritten rule, so one so very young does have some sense of whether they have been forced into it unwillingly i.e rape or simply playing along ignorantly. Furthermore, the question now also involves some veteran actresses. Then, it makes one wonder whether those A list actresses in Korea were mere high class prostitute?
The strange thing is that there were hardly any cases of actresses being rape cases publicize or mere taboo, except what one saw on Dream High?
Imbalance power, position etc is true, but Korea is a country rules by law, and have a criminal justice system which is working, but why these girls did not come forward, but chose a tragic way to end their lifes?
You know, I don't know that I would consider most cases rape as much as regretted sex, which is a entirely different. But even if it's not rape, repeatedly selling yourself (whether it was completely a free choice or if it was coerced) takes an enormous toll on self esteem that may not be initially apparent. I've been depressed so I know - it's not necessarily clear to oneself that you're depressed and that you need to go find help.
I know the casting couch is something that girls who want to break into the entertainment industry are probably aware of, but at the same time it could be a case of thinking you were ready to do what it took and realizing that you're really not. Perhaps JJY got in over her head, and when she realized how unhappy she was with herself and felt trapped by her past choices. Who knows, really? It could she had other problems we don't know about.
The main reason actresses don't come forward or even privately seek help is because they feel shame, they feel dirty, they feel irredeemable, and the Korean society and press doesn't do much to help. Which is not to single out Korea - victim blaming is omnipresent. You find it in just about any society, it's just that Korea in particular can be very vicious to women involved in sex scandals. The subject is taboo - I was surprised that Dream High went there. Because the problem is so invisible in the public discourse, women are afraid to come forward, worried about their (maybe even their family's) reputations, and don't know where to turn for help. I try not to speculate major stars (in Hallyu or Hollywood) because it would drive me nuts and I can't really do much about it.
Now we have three emotions at play with those "cute"' i.e fear, shame and guilt. Korea is a country which is high in masculine and high power distance. Hence, I believe what JJY did may actually work to shame those guys. The next, I hope there will be some divine interventions to make those guys feel fear and guilty!!!
This is sad...but also the reality not only in Korean entertainment but in other countries as well. What's even sadder, or should I say better (depends on how you see it), the people who went through this kind of ordeal in Korea are driven to end their own lives. I say better because in other countries the society/ environment seem to be comparatively more corrupted/ more liberal and so those who are forced or driven to this path just swallow their pride/dignity/humanity and even convince themselves it's alright. They may have not ended their lives but it is no different when dignity and self-respect is lost. The fact that some of the Korean women/men would rather end their lives than live with the shame tells a lot about the remaining dignity of that society.
I think this is the price for ambition and success. The society does not help when audience demand so much from their idols in terms of looks and appearances and when talent managers do not truly take good care of their talents but only treat them as milking cows.
Im no expert on law, but with regards to the young actors/actresses/stars, even if they agreed to it willingly as a kind of fair exchange, is this not considered statutory rape? Because the men/women who victimise them used their positions of power to make them agree to the act. But I guess the age of consent would differ in various countries...
I guess the perspective of you ladies on victim is quite different from a guy perspective. I see it as a deal, a willing buyer and willing seller. The cute feel they were short change, shame and guilt when the deals went sour.
Furthermore, How can it consider statutory rape when the girl actually agreed to do it with a "hope" for something in exchange (whether not to shame the family, out of their own shame or guilt).
If these "cute" has no self love and self respect in the first instance, how can they expect similar treatment from those guys?
Everything has a price, except unconditional love or true love.
I think our perspective changes when we speak about the people who went through this ordeal not as distant idols or stars but as our own friends or family even.
In those cases, we may not just speak about technicalities or legalities, but whether the person they dealt with have abused their power over that person even if he/she was willing to agree to the act for a fair exchange.
Laws are meant to protect the powerless and in most cases those in power go scot-free because they hold all the aces and most of the time the other party is not willing to expose them for shame of exposing also their own gullibility and/or similar dark intentions.
If we are talking about people we love who are driven to this kind of situation, we may exhaust all our resources to ensure that those who took advantage of their gullibility, innocence, or stupidity even, be responsible somewhat for what happened to that person in the end. If not for their gross abuse of their power these people would not be ending their lives in such a tragic way. And even if they ended their lives eventually for lost hopes and dreams at least it will not be because somebody made them a promise that required them to lose their self-respect in the process.
I'm a woman and while not knowing the full details do not see these actors as victims but hostages to their own desires for fame, money and a better lifestyle. Self-respect and self-love can make you not succumb to carnal cravings of the rich and powerful. These men cannot be fully to blame for preying on those who willing come to their dens of lust.
These actors are not my friends or families even though I like or love to watch them on the screen. They are strangers in whom I may take an interest in just to see them again. If they are good, I think providence would have paved the way for them if genuinely good at their craft. The good ones should help each other, but I rather think this is the opposite due to the "crazy" fans out there who will go nuclear to protect their own as if they have any rights. It's all imagined and that is scary what the industry cultivates in the way of maintaining a scoreboard on these ladies (men no doubt want in on this fandom).
This insane pressure for attention, which is milked for all its worth is fueled by the fans. The fans keep this sort of thing perpetuated and some love to ruin lives or think they have some noble cause to help their idols along..... As a spectator in all of this and sometimes a contributor in a drama’s popularity because the “drama” was so good based on the acting, directing and script.
Why should we pity these entertainers who are living comfortably after they pay an entrance fee of "free sex"? They took the easy way to fame and surprise, surprise some men wanted interest on their investments…. There are probably lots of young women still willing to and are going that route even as I type this because they want the name recognition and lofty lifestyles and are conned into being a participant in promoting the Korean wave…. They are martyrs indeed cultivated within this collective society.
sorry to jump in. i'm new here. my older sis frequents this site and got curious (im using her laptop so...ssshhh!)
this topic sure is very controversial and no doubt extremely debatable. hence many societies would rather just sweep this under the rug for fear of opening up more scary stuff. too hot to handle indeed.
for purposes of discussion only, may i know your point of view on the following...do you agree/disagree?
1. the world is evil and bound for destruction.
2. human beings are basically evil and if given the chance will self-destruct.
3. if people do evil things to others they should be held responsible for it.
4. if people do evil things to him/herself then they deserve what they get in terms of the consequences of their sins.
5. sometimes people who do evil things to others or to themselves do not get the appropriate punishment right away and that is reality but eventually they will get what they deserve unless they ask pardon/reprieve.
6. even if the evil deed is grave if the sinner sincerely asks for forgiveness he/she deserves to be pardoned however the consequences of his/her sins may not be totally eradicated.
7. part of asking for forgiveness is making amends for what you admitted to doing wrong.
7. even if all the above is true/agreeable to you, in the face of all the inherent evil, all good men should still try to fight against evil and try to save the powerless, the children, the abused and try to delay/prevent/preserve those who are on their way to destruction.
i'm asking this because our views on the above will determine how we will view and approach the issue of the casting couch.
and finally, do you believe that we all make a stand for or against something? and not making a stand is in fact already a stand in itself?
sorry for all the questions...hope you can enlighten me some more (maybe i will use this topic for my next term paper in class...arghh!)
SpongeBob is a man. You can tell by the way he writes.
You sound like you have some background knowledge of Christianity. Most of your questions seem based on that knowledge. The word "sinner" is a dead give away... This word can also be off-putting to some, confusing to others.
As to whether you are male or female... Write some more and I may be able to tell.
JJY's suicide case and the police is re-opening the case!! In one of her alleged letter, she claimed she had had sex with 31 guys (some quite big shot) in Korea for more than 100 times.
31 guys and more than a 100 times!!!!! gawd,this is really sickening.....
BUT then again this is rampant in most of the entertainment business all over the world.....this may some what be a lil different,but even in the modelling world,models are made to go through these dealings.And at times even males,and not onli females are made to go through this kind of ordeal.I had read a article where an aspiring male(straight) modal had confessed being forced to go to bed with a homosexual designer to get a place in a place in his next fashion show..
no doubt this will be a 7 day wonder, and then swiftly swept under the carpet...and the casting couch auditions will continue to go on until someonelse dies and then its investigations all over again...
I am very very curious, what is holding up those pants? I have looked very very diligently ;) and I can not figure it out!
Is it the force of friction or tension? I know that some of it has to be is friction, it opposes the downward acceleration of the pants caused by gravity and the mass of the pants itself...but somehow it just doesn't seem enough! I want to know!
Are those magic, holy pants?! Considering that it is Siwon, it doesn't feel too far fetched does it? :P
(Trying to figure out how that pant is staying up is the most fun I had in physics class since the semester started!) :P
Viola, I have a question for you. If there were a fire raging next door, and you look out your window and see Siwon in one window waving frantically at you and mouthing oh-so-sexily SAVE ME FIRST VIOLA, and SSH in the other window tilting his head equally frantically at you and roaring sexily SAVE ME FIRST VIOLA who would you save? You've only got time to pull one guy out one window onto your rope ladder. You can only save one.
Yeah, m'kay. First Viola would save !SIWON. Then if she any time left over, she would run back into the inferno, get some edible massage creams to use on !SIWON, and then run out, leaving SSH in to die in flames.
I'm not sayin' all she cares about it Siwon, I'm just sayin'...yeah, all she cares about is Siwon. Is all I'm sayin'. ;) Heh, that's my girl!
YY, I am surprised that this was even a question! Let me ask you one is return: If it was the choice between saving Grandpa and SSH...who do you save? :P
By the way, I love how you guys wrote Siwon, in all caps with multiple exclamation points and the truly novel way of Lahlita!
While it doesn't capture my feeling wholly, nothing else really can, until they invent the font :
"deep and abiding love vaster than the oceans, strong as the pillars of the earth and burning with the passionate heart of a sun"! :P
But good tries none the less! :)
clichique, my oppa has moved on to a better place. I prefer to interact with the living, thank you. Do you remember how he actually REFUSED to go and kept coming back to OT? Haven't heard from him in a while, so I guess he's with the angels now. Phew.
Viola, I am so so sad you're letting me perish in the inferno. You save Siwon whose abs are inferior to mine, and you leave me to be consumed by a cruel raging fire. I weep at your callousness. Pls someone hold my head still. I have been tilting so much and so hard since I read Viola's post that I have no strength to do anything else. I must have tilted 300,000 times since I read those heartless words. My head, my neck, my teeth hurt....but the pain is not equal to that knife struck deep in my heart. Struck, impaled and twisted. YAHHHHHH!!!! *tears off speedo and runs crying into shower*
Dear, dear Don't Call Me Mr. Hand Towel, please don't hide your perfect self and cry in the shower..
It just breaks my heart because I know from personal experience how hard it is hiding in the bathroom/toilet/shower when your heart is breaking (I swore that I'll never go to that place for any reason/a minute longer but for the obvious one) however with you being there....I'll keep you company as long as it takes to hold your perfect head in my arms/laps/where ever you want to put it.
Viola is neither callous nor heartless. She's known for her pure compassionate heart and perfect self. I love her dearly. But you should understand when it comes to Siwon...your superior abs mean nothing. I couldn't tell you here the things she did for Siwon!
And besides she knows I love you, she knows I'll save you (I've been known to have a tendency to save a divine looking man).
So, please stop those tears now. Only heaven knows how taxing that must be for you.
And we don't want you to have puffy eyes don't we?
I am so sorry to have hurt you! It pains me greatly that you think I am heartless and cruel! But it is love, and only LOVE that makes me blind to your Vast charm ( and I do mean that in all its clever implications :P ) and cruel in my blindness.
After all, "..the heart has reasons that reason can not know..." why else would I choose someone who clutches his bible to to his chest and mutters "kim suh an moo.." if I even walk within five feet of him, over your speedo less self in a shower...*gulp* *fans self*
Please, do not despair. There are so many women who is just dying to comfort you. Take Pipit for example: she is scarred from the time she had to hide in the bathroom from OKie Dokie, because of a slight misunderstanding where she might have ran away with Okie Dokie's husban Henny to a deserted island.. But that's beside the point.
My point is that Pipit absolutely traumatized by the bathroom, and she is offering to keep you company there for as long as you want! Just think of the sheer devotion!
So, forget me and find happiness with a woman who truly appreciates your eyelashes, abs and head tilt. Just think of me as some bad woman you met in an accident and * breath catches on a sob* be *hic* Happyyyyy * runs away crying* :P
Forget that Kdrama void we are currently experiencing! We have all the drama we need here on the OT. And if we thing something is lacking, we will promptly create one.
Well done ladies and Hand Towel! And of course, what a very fine picture, SiWon!
Also, I knew that a mere raging inferno won't stop you Mr Hand Towel! You would just use your superpower and turn yourself into a Hand Towel that would promptly smother the flames!
But, poor Siwon, he lacks your super morphing powers, so off course I have to save him! :)
How are your associates The Kidnappers by the way? Please send them my fond regards. :)
Very good question, Viola. One would think you are interested in more than navel circumstances.
Seriously, the answer to your questions is both friction and tension. Those two physical properties allow for the pants to stay in place.
Unless you are sitting/standing perfectly still, the movement of muscles under the clothing not only creates friction (surface resistance to relative motion) but tension (the force by which a part is pulled when forming part of any system in equilibrium or in motion).
So the cloth moving against Siwon's thighs, groin, buttocks is friction, while his muscles moving against the fabric, the fabric moving against itself at different fulcrums, and Siwon's muscles actually being taut are all forms of tension.
I wonder who would be picked to play the leads in hana kimi kor version. Any suggestions? What about the BoF girl and Lee Min Ho? Ugh. I can't believe I typed that. Bleah. SSH and KTH? Nah. They're too old. The long-haired dude from Mary and PSH from You are beautiful? Hey, wait a minute....the long-haired dude was in YAB too! With PSH! Ok ok I know....the cute chef guy from MP and Oh Hani from PK? I know! The cute girl in Coffee House and Dream High...she'd be perfect! Fresh, cute and can pass off as a pretty boy. Hm.... who to pair her with? KHJ?
You're probably just messing around, but now that I think about it, yeah, Eunjung (ahem Coffee House/Dream High girl) would totally be perfect for the role.
Because Hana Kimi seem all about idol, how about Eunjung and Siwon? Eunjung and Hong-ki? (uh-oh fangirling :) ) Eunjung and Park Yuchun? (No, never hear about JYJ, I just know there's a group named DBSk :P )
because SM is the one who bought the story, so I think they'll put their artists in the production.
Some from SuJu, DBSK ( sorry to say but this means only Yunho or Chang Min ), or Shinee as lead actor... My wish actually Jay of TRAX, but he's too old for this drama... so, probably Minho of Shinee? he's been talking about starting acting career.
I'd like to see Heechul as supporting actor.
As for the lead actress, they'll pick someone from SNSD or f(x), soo....hmmm, Luna? Sulli will act on other drama, so I don't think she'll be here.
SNSD girls are all too feminine as the lead role, IMO
sinc.e this SM their going to cast a bunch of THEIR idols.....i'.d love to see Heechul play Nakatsu...since he's got th boy-love perfected to a T....lol....also would be gr8 cus he Jeremy in YAB reminded me of Nakatsu aa lot....overactive imagination...lol
I am SO. EXCITED. for this!!! I'm probably going to hugely disappointed, but how awesome is this going to be people!??
I hope they put a suju guy in it, just cos I adore them, even if it's only a cameo... I really liked the japanese casting, but Korean is my preference for dramas, so i'm hoping I'll like it EVEN MORE.
I think eunjung would be good, but she's kinda done that role already so she probs won't.
I don't care I just hope its GOOOOD!!
sorry, waaay too excited about this.
oh but heechul would be a GREAT, and I mean GREAT namba sempei....
I also enjoyed Dream High, because I love some Kpop and the idol groups. Story is good, acting is not really.
If you're into makjang, there's a good one, Flames of Ambition. I wish I can understand Korean wayyyyyyyy better so I can catch up with recent episodes. But the English subs are really worth to wait. :D
paradise ranch, dr champ, obgyn, liar game (its japanese but quite good), that love comes is a tdrama with Joe Cheng only 12 episodes and quite nice, our slightly risque relationship was good too.
I am addicted to Korean variety shows. Well, for now I'm only following Running Man, Lets Go Dream Team, We Got Married, Happy Together, and Oh! My School.
Plan to watch 1N2D with UTW if there's English sub available.
I think some idols are meant to be in variety shows instead of becoming actors. They're dorky being themselves, and really entertaining.
My most favorite person in variety world is Yoo Jae Suk.
He's so talented in making mood and MC-ing. He always has things to say!
I really like his style, and he can bring up the atmosphere, and he always helps the cast mates to shine.
I like his jokes, and he's not rude.
I learn many things by watching variety shows.
So what's your favorite variety shows? Give me recommendations!
I'm also addicted to korean variety shows. I watch 1N2D, Oh! My School! Happy together and Qualifications of Men. It's all from KBS World because that's the only channel who has English subs and the channel that we can access.
yes! KBSW variety shows are <3
I kind of miss the game show trend of the past, however. It ended sort of around the time that Jiwaza and X-man/Loveletter era ended.
Now seems to be the trend of the "talkies".
Unfortunately, the only variety I have access to are saturated with idols; I love me the pretty but I want to see the other aspects of K-ent as well. That's kind of why I want SGB back haha!
hey all Kdrama addict ....Happy good Friday ... love you all
GO SOO off the market, ALEX off the market, Jung Woo Sung off the market .... Hyun Bin went to Marine ... Ohh so sad day for this Fangirl .... OPPA ...OPPA... OPPA don't break my heart ... :-( ... hehehe
This is really really random....but I am watching Secret Garden now....yeah I know...ONLY NOW...? And I have a habit of going thru the recaps after every epi I watch...
JB , if u r reading this there's a teensy mistake on the recap page for secret garden. Epi 14 is put as epi 13. The link is correct though. Just wondered if you'd wanna correct it.
p/s - I dunno why I'm taking this long to finish SG....I love Hyun Bin and HJW...but I really don't really like their characters all that much...can't explain it. I love and hate them. Am I making any sense...ok forget this...this topic is long outdated anyway.
swui, you are not alone, hehe...i love HB and HJW, too, but could never fully connect with their characters in SG :-) i just watched it for the funny hijinks and for the sake of finishing the series.
He, he I just finished a week ago. I don't really like Ra im character, too passive or something (ehm kinda remind me of my self :D). But Joo won, Oska, and secretary Kim character just love!
Even without whoever writer behind the funny and sometime deep script, PD or director behind those beautiful scene, and music director behind the background music and ost, Hyun Bin alone with designer cloths, walking around, brooding, crying, acting crazy, anything at that fantastic abode, enough to make me stick till 20 episode, swooning. Miss Binnie....
Haha...I'm watching for similar reasons too..I like the side characters surprisingly...Oska, Seul, Secretary....(JooWon andRa-Im's) occasionally I guess ... Well...off to finish off the series somemore....5 more to go!
Hand Towel, oh Hand Towel, has anyone ever told you you look like Seungri from Big Bang? Especially from the music video of Lollipop? (I know this song came out a long time ago, but I just started listening to k-pop).
Just wanted to share that there was some fashion show where I live (Singapore) yesterday and Park Shin Hye was actually in attendance. So I thought it was pretty cool, though all I caught of her was a glimpse when she walked out the store, all gracefully.
It's my first time on the Open Thread... I just wanna say hi to all of you ( I have been reading you for the last months and you keep me company... Thanks Javabeans, Girlfriday and all the people who writes coments...)
P.S... My heart and my prayers go to the people of Japan,
Living in this world -
to what shall I compare it?
Its like a boat
rowing out at break of day,
leaving no trace behind.
You know I'm not the one who like re-watching drama, three time is my max and it is rare. But you know, today I re-watch Coffee House again and I forget how many time I've already watched this drama. I guess I just miss watching Kang Ji-hwan acting in drama so much. Please, K drama God don't let me go too far till I have to watch my leftover Firework, Hong Gil Dong is OK, but not Firework. So K drama God help KJH resolves his contract problem soon so I can watch him acting in drama this year. Amen
Sincerely yours,
PS: All my pray for every one in Japan and all who affected by Tsunami and earthquake
Heyyy everyone - Happy friday :)
This site is my favourite place on the net and i've finally built up the courage to post...
Firstly my prayers to those affected by the earthquake, the pictures are shocking!
And just wanted to know is anyone watching New tales of Gisaeng - is it good?
Thanks
so, i realize paradise ranch isn't exactly popular here on dramabeans, but i happen to love it. if you have seen up to episode 14 like me, what are your thoughts? i'm so happy we got a confession, and i hope they don't chicken out on it. either way, i'm guessing the drama will be good these remaining 2 episodes. they've managed to keep dramatic weight without filling it with excessive angst so far. i developed a soft spot for donjoo as the drama progressed, and the message of moving on was played out well. of course, i'm hoping for the happy ending!
My only big complaints are the bad editing and directing on the reshoots. I know that there are times when Changmin was not available due to schedule. and I realize that he had to do reshoots in places without the original cast, but it should not be that obvious. There have been several scenes where I know he is talking to a camera someplace else without any other actors near him.
Reposting from 1.6.
i have loved every second of it(- the editing and directing blunders). The cute has killed me. In every episode there has been cute. and the crazy possibilities of who could end up with who even though from the first episode the audience has known who the main couple was, has been great. There were at least 5 viable couple combinations in this show. It must be a record for Kdrama. Yeah there are secondaries you know will never get the girl but when you look at the writing of this thing. Everything and everyone seemed possible up until episode 14.
First.. SBS confirmed the cancellation of their 9pm drama hout. Dammmit.. I want WHAT'S UP to finally make it on the air at least before Lim Ju Hwan enlists. Don't be cruel SBS, he's going away soon, fans need to him and I think he needs this drama too before he disappear for 2 years.
Second.. this "rumor" about LJA and JWS. Ockoala unni... I kinda know your pain. I do not even have words how to describe how this must be for you. LJA?! *shudder*
Third.. this massive earthquake hitting Japan and now tsunami warning all over the Pacific. Last night, we couldn't get hold of our relatives in Japan.. although they live far away from Sendai and TOkyo. It was frightening. Finally they were able to email us that they are OK after about 4 hours since the quake. Phew
awwwww.....i admit its not been the greatest week to me either....hopefully things get better though it may take a while in Japan....hope u feel better!
The reports of the fires and floods in Japan
are so horrendous, that it's hard to believe
that it's real.....and not some fake film of toy/
miniature boats and cars.
Anybody know how much damage the actual
earthquake caused first? Was its epicenter
in a remote region) before the tsunami hit?
I hope that God hears the world-wide prayers
being said for the safety of the people caught
up in this nightmare situation....
The epicenter was in the ocean around 150 km's ? from the coast of Sendai. But the quake reached Tokyo as well and was felt all the way in Hokkaido (Northern Japan)
The damage has been enormous, the waves destroyed a whole city 4 million people are without electricity
Thousands of people are still missing and around 300 have died, two trains are missing and a boat with 100 people onboard was taken by the waves.
This day has been crazy with the earthquake in Japan and the tsumani. I haven't been able to contact my japanese friends so I'm a bit worried.
Currently addicted to New tales of Gisaeng, it's a longer drama but I like it.
I'm not looking forward to SM's planned adaptation of hanakimi, BOF was horrid so this could be x1000000 times worse.
Just want to say that Thorn Birds is killin' my love for Joo Sang Wook. Ugh...even his hotness and acting talent can't save the severe melo-ness of that show. Oh Drama Gods, please fix it with some decent writing before its too late. =(
i can't stand that he seems to be dating that bitch
and what???!...now she's pregnant...of courseeee. Though I have to admit their kiss in episode 1 was pretty hot...
the other dude that was in Spring Waltz seems really nice and cool though. It would be nice if he gets the girl.
But the guy who has a childhood history with the girl...always yets the girl in kdramas
btw it kinda annoys me how that girl is so fricken naive.
I dont know if anyone else is living in the States, but living here now, I find myself very surprised by everything that is happening around me. The paranoia and fear about everything that is the "other" is very odd for a country that is "all accepting."
Maybe I'll just burying myself in drama-lalaland and ignore the outside world haha.
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Its ok to be shocked, even angry but I do have a question... Who said America is/was "all accepting?" I've lived here all my life and I've never heard such a thing. We have never been an "all accepting" country or culture. We "allow," "ignore," and "tolerate" most anything but "accept" is something totally different.
From your statement, I assume you believed somehow that America was made up of subhumans(not being sarcastic) but its not. We're just people. People who get it wrong and prejudge, make assumptions and say things that make others believe we're uneducated or untrusting.
I can't speak for all Americans, however, I am by no means paranoid or afraid by the "other" things in life, and I don't associate with anyone who is as you describe. But with that said, aren't most cultures and countries concerned and disillusioned about the "other." Are you perhaps equating caution and question with fear(just asking)?
I think its easy to pass judgment when its not your home and you are on the outside looking in.( I know I do it when I watch dramas and films.) How I combat that is to take into consideration the history and culture of that country, my cultural expericence, then tack on the one thing we share, "finite humanity." I don't get along with everyone, like everyone, or understand everyone, whether they live here, speak English, eat meat or serve Christ, like I do. I do, however, have opinions, convictions and moral standards that are deeply rooted and influenced by my cultural background, like everyone else. I am an "other" in almost every sense, therefore, I attract attention, fear and paranoia no matter the country I'm in, and America honestly is no different, but its my home. If you didn't think(know) so, I truly hate you were misinformed.
I don't say this, to imply that its right or fair but its a reality based solely on the fact that people are people, who screw up and do dumb stuff. We have pockets of stereotypic behavior and racist views in all our lives in one way or another. Its one thing I hope we can one day, all accept, then strive to improve.
America is going through a weird time right now. I think most of your fear has to come from the news. Stop watching CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and the like...you will be much happier, believe me.
Focus on individuals. I think everyone stereotypes groups of people, but one-on-one interactions are the best anyway.
Go for a walk or to the bookstore, smile at some people and they will smile back. At least that is what happens in Texas
Buhdoop, that is a very perceptive insight. I think a lot of the "fear" and "hatred' are being generated by a very small percentage of people, but since they are the loudest, and their voice saturates the media, it creates the false perception that they speak for the entire country.
It's an unfortunate fact that our brains are not that efficient at processing information, and if we hear something often enough we come to accept it as the truth.
So, if you turn off the filter of the media, and base your opinions entirely on personal interaction, then you get a different, and on the whole a much happier picture. :)
Basically people are people everywhere, while most of them are good, there is always some unhappy soul who wants to make others as miserable as themselves.
I feel incredibly thankful for this site. I have met some of the most outstanding people here, and all of them are as different from me as it possible to get.
Take Brookeve and I for example: on the surface we are as different as it possible to get; different religion, race, background, familial situation, upbringing, country, and perhaps the biggest difference of all I was raised in NYC and she was raised in the... drumroll... midwest/ heartlands (?) ( my grasp of geography is very shaky :P) *gasp* :p
But, despite all that superficial difference, we have found so much in common that it has become a running joke between us. :)
In all seriousness, the group that we have in Facebook is my second family. Every single one of us there is as different from each other as possible, yet we all share a commonality of experience that is sometimes uncanny.
So, what I am trying to say in this loooooong post is this: Yes, there is some awful people out there but there are lovely people in the world too. And the best part is that the lovely people outnumber the awful ones! :P
What a wonderful thread.
There were times when I completely stopped watching the news as all that I saw were violence, hatred agains some groups and political disputes (they seriously destroyed my piece of mind).
Yes, one on one before making any generalisation.
And yes, there's a FB group for those who love Kdrama. I don't know the rules. But since I'm at the other side of the planet I'm the one who is answering your question. Other members might give a better answer when they see this.
Anyway, like what Viola said deep down inside we're all the same.
I'm fine Brookeeve. It does feel like forever. I just returned from eastern part of Indonesia yesterday. Don't ask about the internet connection when my cell hardly work. Anyway good to be back and getting in touch with you again ^-^
I'm lovely too. I am lovely inside and out. I am lovely in my speedo. I am even lovelier out of my speedo. My abs are lovely too. Unlike Siwon's, my abs are real. Siwon's are just painted on. My eyelashes are lovely. They are also longer than Siwon's. And I can tilt. Siwon can't tilt to save his life. Hah!
I'm American, and I do think there's something kind of disturbing going on in certain circles these days. Whether it's the Muslim "McCarthyism" or the strangely prevalent and persistent belief (even outside the Fox News/Tea Party circles) that President Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim... I think a lot of people have a lot of fear about their personal futures and the country's future. Unemployment is high, people don't see their standard of living improving, they don't feel that their children will be better off than they are, we hear incessantly about our debt and deficit ... I think a lot of people feel that the American dream as they always understood it is ending or dead, and that does make them very anxious. And I think certain commentators/pundits/politicians/whatever are very eager to capitalize on this sense of fear and anxiety and find someone to blame for it -- anyone that is "other" (which is how we come back to demonization by the current opposition party of those who are not part of its base...)
I could go on and on, but I know this isn't a political thread :)
I'm gonna stick up for America real quick here... because its my country and its the only one that I have any claim to. I'm not European-American or African-American or Asian-American... all I've got is American-American, so I tend to be a little gung ho when it comes to my country.
I live in a military town. Down my street, I've got people of every single color, nationality, creed, religion, sexual orientation, etc. Our kids all play together, and we all sit on our front porches in the evenings and yell at each other's kids. We teach our kids to respect each other and themselves, and we don't really have an 'other' on our street at all.
One thing you will find about Americans, though, is that we'll talk to anybody. Most of us will even be respectful when we're speaking to others. We're a friendly and affectionate people. Smile a little, be open to some conversation, and I'm sure you'll find that we're a friendly group of people.
Also, I LOVE VIOLA!!!! She is the bestest little sister on the planet! We really aren't the same person, we just play the same character!
thank you guys for all of your comments! I suppose it does ease my concerns; it was an off-hand comment about my initial hurts when I arrived, I didnt mean to offend but I see that I did. I must say that those "hurts" still persist but the transition has been easier.
I was born here but grew up outside the States and now work in the Public Health sector at the state level dealing with security. I guess you can see the kind of circles I move in, why I am surprised by "paranoia" haha.
I dont know much about the regional differences to comment but I'm sure once I step out of the office and face the outside world, it might be better. It might not. Who knows? :D
It's Rachel's post that, at this moment, I most identify with.
Alvina, you didn't offend me in the least. I was hurt too by some ignorant people. What I was trying to say that, yes, there are hurtful people here in America, who will dislike you for your religion/skin color/ orientation or heck which football team you support, but the vast majority of the people will accept you, and some precious few will love you. :) *hugs* I hope things get better for you. :) We are always here in OT if you need to talk more. :)
If what I said resonated with you in any way, I'm glad. I guess what I mean is that -- I think -- the fear and anxiety and even anger a lot of Americans feel when they think about how they and the country are doing these days are not at all groundless, and I can understand and empathize with that. What is very unfortunate is the way some people (are encouraged by pundits and political leaders to) channel these fears into a kind of hateful paranoid xenophobia, rather than looking for practical solutions to America's real problems. Very depressing... in the end, I have to agree with Glenn Beck (although for rather different reasons): "I love my country, and I fear for it."
You can also try washing your eyes out with milk, it has casein that will help wash away the capsaicin. I can't think of anything else! Poor Brit from Blightly! *hugs*
thanks to everyone for their tips.I only had water but that seemed to do the trick. However,now my lips and chin are burning because I lent on them whilst perusing through Dramabeans :) I curse Jamie Oliver :(
HEYYYYYY
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN WATCH "PROPOSE"...THE 1997 DRAMA GIRLFRIDAY WAS RAVING ABOUT???????????????????????????????????
OR IF ANYONE HAS ANY DOWNLOAD LINKS...IF THEY COULD SEND THEM TO ME. PLEASEEEE. THANKS!
I am completely overwhelm by this tragedy, my hearth and my prayers goes out to the Japanese people, may providence be in your side as you recover from such a horrific natural disaster.
For the family's that have lost love ones, may you find comfort, and may this tragedy will eventually turn out for the betterment of all the people of Japan.
So far 4 Nuclear Reactors have stop from working, lets hope and pray that a Nuclear catastrophic may be averted, and spare more suffering....... : O {
We need to pray constantly and send our love thoughts to Japan and its people who are still suffering from strong after shocks.
Let's pray that they will soon find relief and that the shaking stops so that they may begin repairs and cleaning up.
The news have shown very little of the conditions the survivors are in. I'm sure many are suffering from the cold and exposure. They may be hungry, thirsty and tired. They may be mourning the loss of loved ones and property and need our prayers to comfort them
Let's pray also for the relief workers. They have a monumental task ahead.
Let's pray that the nuclear reactors be shut down. If a meltdown were to occur, it could also affect other countries in the vecinity (China, Korea).
I'm in need of a mood lifter (aren't we all?) Can anyone recommend a good Korean rom com feature film? I liked My Little Bride and Seducing Mr. Perfect (in spite of the always wooden Henney).
He Was Cool
My Wife is Gangster
My Boyfriend is Type B
My Tutor Friend
Unstoppable Marriage - Best option!
And if you want silly laughs at potty humor. my guilty pleasure is 'Attack On the Pin Up Boys' I can't stop laughing at this thing that features a much younger Super Junior.
The Art of Seduction - was a lot like "Mr. Perfect"
Too Beautiful too lie - choked from laughing so hard
Highway Star - not really a rom-com, but quite funny
... and if it doesn't have to be a Korean rom-com, a personal favourite of mine is "Secret" with Jay Chou.
I woke up today as the Japan news was breaking. I watched live as that solid wall of water smash into Sendai. It was a horrible way to start the day. I was glued to my TV for the greater part of the day. *sigh*
There is also a minority protest here in Saudi Arabia (I wrote "minority" cuz Shiite Muslims are a minority here). It's nothing big really.... I hope it won't continue. We're all under an unofficial curfew and the govt used cloud seeding to stop further protests. I think it's kinda smart. It's raining heaps here.
It's been a slow but crazy week altogether though. I'm thankful for Big Bang's comeback stages and the acapella version release of their EP. KBS Music Bank is pissing me off seriously but I'm still thankful Big Bang is doing well.
Happy Friday everyone!^^
@brookeeve unni, did you see GD & TOP on the shows Night After Night & KJE Chocolate?=P
heyy!! u live in saudi arabia too? COMRADE! lol,
n yes, the japan thing is majorly depressing. pluss the may 11 thing. i dont get it, wasnt everyone happy? we expats have less rights than the shiites, but we're not complainin'. well, im not. so r u korean originally??? im like THE ONLY one in my friends circle who loves asian dramas, i get the looks but I DONT CARE!! :D
who else is dying for more kim soo hyun? just started watching will it snow for christmas, n im already bummed out from the fact that he'l only be in the first 2 eps. and i started watchin fathers house, N I COULD WATCH THE SECOND EP!!! n kim soo hyun is only in the second episode!!!! i could only find it on viikii, n the shtupids uploaded the wrong video in the second episode. *sigh* couldnt find download links for it either, help, anyone?
Okay, Jung Woo-Sung fangirlys, what is up with this? Is it too difficult for actors/actress' to just act in the dramas and NOT fall for each other? Another instance of life imitating art or just friends?
You gotta figure that on Dramas the actors and actresses spend so much with each other, developing fake relationships and connections, that sometimes something just sparks between the actor and actress.
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1 Sylvia
March 11, 2011 at 6:53 AM
Anyone else watching Paradies Ranch? I'm really enjoying it!
I really like Dong Joo's characterization. Haven't seen that kind of insecure beta-hero slowly growing into himself too often, and I think it's a big plus in any man's favor if he favors strong women he can admire and look up to. :-)
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 8:01 AM
I am rather enjoying it. I can't believe everything will be resolved in two episodes.
Joo Sang Wook is breaking my heart. The poor man just wants to share his hotness with a girl, and keeps getting thwarted.
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YY
March 11, 2011 at 8:12 AM
The eyes, Jomo, the eyes....
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Sylvia
March 11, 2011 at 8:53 AM
Sang Wook has something oddly shifty about him IMO... I know the drama doesn't intend the character to seem that way, but somehow I keep getting "not trustworthy!!" signals from him.
So, you guys can have him; he's all yours. :-)
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legalisfun
March 11, 2011 at 1:17 PM
i agree with you, there's a 'something not right' vibe coming from him...
YY
March 11, 2011 at 11:49 PM
Can someone tell me who's the hero here....the eyes guy or the shifty guy? If it's the eyes guy, I'm not watching. If it's the shifty guy, I don't mind. Shifty is good. I'd take shifty any day over starey eyes.
Sylvia
March 12, 2011 at 6:17 AM
If you mean Sang Wook with the eyes guy, then he's also the same shifty guy I'm talking about. :-) He's not the hero, so you can watch it. ;-)
The hero isn't shifty at all, and there's nothing odd about his eyes that I can see...
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elle loves kdrama
March 11, 2011 at 7:54 PM
I know. I just want to hug him!
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Cherry
March 11, 2011 at 9:15 AM
I actully started watching it yesterday & already at the 10th episode !!
Dong joo's & Da ji's flashbacks from when they were married crack me up every time =)
This drama isn't that bad after all : Changmin's hotness & childishness and Yeon hee's stupidity-mixed-with-some-cleverness add to its charm =)
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March 11, 2011 at 9:42 AM
YES!!!!!!!!!! I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!!! JUST SAW EP 14...CAN'T WAIT!!! I'm a bit sad it'll end, but boy, was it great.
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Minnetter
March 11, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Yep yep same here I really enjoyed it after watching it... at first it was kind of yawn worthy but the last couple of episodes have been pretty great and Changmin has been doing well as Dong Joo-- I like that kind of character that isn't perfect and he also isn't so cold hearted as most k-drama heroes, he's like a big kid who tries to act like a selfish adult but is really a soft teddy bear who crumbles before the one he loves^^
I actually like his acting more than the actress's even though I've liked her in her other projects... it might be the hair...
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hookedonmonix
March 11, 2011 at 10:18 PM
Ah, the hair. I'm having a hard time figuring out if I'd like her more with different hair. It's either her character, her acting, or her hair, but she's sorta grating to me. Why do these two handsome men love her annoying self so much?
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Xin
March 12, 2011 at 2:46 AM
I'm enjoying it too! At first i found changmin's acting kind of weird. But he's improving. The preview for the next episode is killing me! I wanna fast forward to monday!!
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funnylittlefishy
March 11, 2011 at 12:08 PM
yeah actually really love it... didn't think I would at first, but it's gotten soo good! I adore changmin in it, which i was not expecting...I can't believe there are only 2 episodes left! aah...
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diadda
March 11, 2011 at 12:30 PM
Yes i have loved every second of it. The cute has killed me. In every episode there has been cute. and the crazy possibilities of who could end up with who even though from the first episode the audience has known who the main couple was, has been great. There were at least 5 viable couple combinations in this show. It must be a record for Kdrama. Yeah there are secondaries you know will never get the girl but when you look at the writing of this thing. Everything and everyone seemed possible up until episode 14.
I shall miss MAX TIME. where shall I get my cute? Lank God PIE is back or who knows what I might do.
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legalisfun
March 11, 2011 at 1:21 PM
yep still watching, and enjoying it...
I agree with you about Dong joo, he is a bit immature but not too much...i'm glad finally he has realised the truth :-)
Cant wait for next week...
I didnt really like Da Ji...
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elle loves kdrama
March 11, 2011 at 7:53 PM
I really like it and not just because I am VERY partial to Joo Sang Wook. Haha!
Hard to believe it's almost over and it's almost hard to tell who Da Ji will end up with. I am really hoping she ends up with Joo Sang Wook, but I doubt it.
One more week :D
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giddy
March 16, 2011 at 1:34 PM
Out of sheer desperation, started watching this on Monday (the dearth of romcoms is killing me!); here we are on Wednesday and I'm so enamored with it. One glance at Joo Sang Wook and I was ALL IN. YIKES! What a perfect guy!
Da Ji is less irritating than initially expected--it's actually only the hair--keep waiting for the new hairstyle to emerge and thought the dress up scene would have more positive results. Her cheerful brightness is not as forced as these characters usually are, and she is glowing in a lot of the scenes where Joon Ho is looking at her.
It's interesting how they are unfolding the backstory in lil' tidbits as flashbacks as the affection seems to be growing between the two, unbeknownst to them. Of course they are hoping that we want her to be with Joon Ho, but like Sylvia mentioned, there seems to be a darkside to this dashing prince with the dazzling smile.
Dong Joo is growing on me, slowly. His standing up for Da Ji and the residents (what Gramps really wanted all along) is working on me as well.
Am trying to drag this one out as long as I can cuz there's really nothing out there after this (Sparkling subs are taking a while to come out). Thanks for a place where I can come and rant about this (lack of romcoms) and gush about that (Joo Sang Wook)!
Side note: it was interesting that he had to publicly address his "preferences" in the media this week.
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Janet
March 18, 2011 at 7:32 AM
I watched the first 5(?) episodes of PR and got bored/ stopped. I will look into it again.
After MP & DH ended, I kinda got into Taiwanese dramas. Does anybody else think that Changmin has a resemblence to Jerry Yan?
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2 PoisonIvy
March 11, 2011 at 6:56 AM
i'm actually looking forward Jwith ung Yonghwa and Park Shin Hye's new drama...
Yonghwa, as much as i like you, you better start taking acting lessons seriously and not mess this up.
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Ashley Thomas
March 11, 2011 at 7:07 AM
Oh gosh...that was my first thought when I heard about this drama, too...I loved You're Beautiful, but his acting was just hard to watch sometimes and I would hate to see that repeated in this new drama!!
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DeeDee315
March 11, 2011 at 7:09 AM
I agree, love Yonghwa. He just has that certain something. Looking forward to the drama & the new album. Sad that it looks like he'll be leaving WGM. Guess he can't do it all.
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Emily
March 11, 2011 at 7:15 AM
It's really a shame that he's leaving WGM. His time on that show has been fantastic.
And yes, true about the acting. There's something in his delivery that's so wooden. I would really like to see him adlib some of his scenes, because I think a bit of his natural charisma is lost as he's going through a script.
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PoisonIvy
March 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM
lol guess i'm not the only who's sad about him leaving WGM. i really hope he takes acting classes.
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lvsanchez
March 11, 2011 at 8:06 AM
Goguma couple fans here on Dramabeans? Nice :-) It's strange having seen him as the serious, brooding Shinwoo and then getting to know his real personality. He's so outgoing! I think he'd do better in this role, but am still a little worried. He's definitely inexperienced, but he has some potential.
joybells
March 11, 2011 at 7:34 AM
oooo,even im waiting eagerly for this drama...its funny (and i can be shallow at times),but da first time i see a drama with a pretty lead actor (with less than questionable acting chops) i barely notice as im too busy swooning over the eye-candy. its when i rewatch the drama do i begin to notice da lshortcommings in the acting department....haha
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porninja
March 11, 2011 at 8:32 AM
I don't know, I'm quite hopeful! Have you seen the CFs he did for Hazzy? He was well... not great, but decent! I can see him playing that kind of playful fun-loving character, not the broody quiet sort.
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3 mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 6:56 AM
Praying for the families in Japan and Hawaii due to the tsunami.
Happy TGIF otherwise!
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Stella
March 11, 2011 at 7:23 AM
Same here.
Hope everyone in Japan and those living in the Pacific rim a safe weekend. May you be able to spend it with your loved ones and may everyone be safe and out of harm's way.
To those who are affected, stay strong!
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YY
March 11, 2011 at 7:30 AM
It's so horrific. I just saw images from TV. I remember the 2006 tsunami vividly. It's like a nightmare repeating itself.
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 7:37 AM
So tragic. God bless them.
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djeedjes
March 11, 2011 at 7:43 AM
My prayers to everyone who affected.
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Emma
March 11, 2011 at 7:46 AM
My friend is is Tokyo. I tried to contact but couldn't get through. Hope everything is alright.
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mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 7:54 AM
I saw one aerial view and the landscape looked like it was littered with toy cars and planes and I immediately felt for the children and asked God to have mercy....
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Ani
March 11, 2011 at 8:07 AM
Love to Samoa and the smaller islands along the ring of fire. Love to those up and down the U.S West Coast as well.
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pumpzz
March 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM
Same here. My mom is now being paranoid after she heard the news. And she tear up when she heard that our country might be affected by tsunami. She told us not to leave the house.
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March 11, 2011 at 9:51 AM
my prayers go out as well!
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Carinne
March 11, 2011 at 10:57 AM
Disheartening TGIF Peeps!
A really heartbreaking sight. The last time I glued onto the TV news for hours on was in regards to 9/11 terrorist attack. I can merely understand all the frustration and fear from families affected from the aftermath, and those who are travelling/vacationing across the Pacific Ocean.
And how lucky are you/we away from such direct geological impact? Stay safe to all!
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QD
March 11, 2011 at 11:19 AM
This friday... my thoughts are with the people of Japan...
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Arhazivory
March 11, 2011 at 11:25 AM
Mine too. Been following the news since morning. Really praying for them over there.
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MJP
March 11, 2011 at 1:40 PM
Japan, Hawaii, Oregon, and California now too.
"CRESCENT CITY, Calif. — Tsunami waves spawned by a devastating earthquake in Japan battered the U.S. western coast Friday, sinking and smashing dozens of boats at harbors and sweeping at least five people out to sea.
Four people were rescued from the water in Oregon, but one man who was taking photos in Northern California was still missing." Quote from MSNBC.
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Balletgoddess
March 11, 2011 at 2:27 PM
I'm really worried about my friends and host family in Japan! Heard good news from those I could get in contact with but still waiting to hear from others = (
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ar_arguably romantic
March 11, 2011 at 3:38 PM
Praying for the people in Japan too.
And even after getting hit with the earthquake and the tsunami, they now have to deal with a long series of powerful aftershocks and a possible radiation leak. There is no break from the fear.
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Lily
March 11, 2011 at 4:27 PM
Same here. Hope everyone in Japan stays safe, and that they will all be able to recover from this disaster.
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pipit
March 11, 2011 at 6:24 PM
My foster parents live in Fukushima. I've lost their contact right when I get back to my country (on the night of my leaving I promised them I'll take care of my foster brother and sister. And I had every intention to keep in touch and take good care of them if they come to visit me). it drives me nut that I lost that paper where I wrote down their phone numbers and emails!
Keep thinking about them. And just now I heard that there's a posibble nuclear leak in the Fukuhima's surrounding areas!
Dear God, please, please take good care of them.
My prayers also go for all who are affected to have the strength and patient to endure this trial.
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 8:02 PM
Oh Pipit. *hugs*
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pipit
March 11, 2011 at 9:16 PM
Hugs back
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brookeeve
March 11, 2011 at 8:34 PM
Sending you hugs, dearest!
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pipit
March 11, 2011 at 9:20 PM
Gladly taking all the hugs sent by Brookeeve
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autumnscribbles
March 11, 2011 at 10:30 PM
Praying for the safety and wellbeing of those affected by the earthquake and tsunami.
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4 Dara
March 11, 2011 at 6:59 AM
What an ending for 'Sign' O_O! Anyone?
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jojo
March 11, 2011 at 8:40 AM
Twilight Zone....
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Linda165
March 11, 2011 at 10:58 AM
Shhhhhhhhh!!! I'm still waiting for the subs!!!!
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Yasmin
March 13, 2011 at 10:27 AM
Yh I really hated that ending, wish they could do an alternative ending where yoon Ji Hoon doesn't die!! I really hate it!! I watch ep 19 and 20 without subs and now refuse to watch it at all cos of the ending!! Really annoyed!!
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Lishuys
March 25, 2011 at 1:22 PM
I thought it was too much to give up (his life) to nail the badie (evil chick). But i guess they were going for irony - to have him on the table and disected - shud have written in the evil chick on the table instead . . .
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5 saraha
March 11, 2011 at 7:04 AM
I'm (still) not interested in the current dramas airing, so I just may go back in time and watch an older drama.
I'm thinking of watching a Yang Dong-geun drama (because I've just been reading praises about his acting). I haven't watched Ruler of your Own World... maybe I'll start with that.
I'm watching Sunny Happiness in my spare time. TW actors' always seem to bug me because their acting is not subtle at all! Although I can see that Mike He's acting has improved.
Prayers for the families and homes affected by the earthquake and tsunami~~
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Bellamafia
March 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM
My sis watched Ruler of your Own World, she didn't understand why people said it's really good. She thought that's the most boring drama she has ever seen. I haven't seen it yet, so not so sure if it's good or not.
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 7:53 AM
I liked Sunny Happiness and Mike He was nice to look at. The 45 minute episodes seemed to fly by.
MH reminded me a LOT of John Stamos when he had that little smirky smile going on.
I even google imaged the pair of 'em to see if I could find photos to back it up.
My research indicated that JS smiles a lot while MH smolders, and most importantly, damn! they are both very good-looking men.
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porninja
March 11, 2011 at 8:34 AM
I couldn't find anything to watch after Dream High and My Princess finished airing, so I started 9 End 2 Outs after Girlfriday's recommendation. I'm only 4 episodes in, but so far so good! I'd definitely recommend it too if you're into rom-coms.
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ohemgee
March 11, 2011 at 9:16 AM
i was in the same boat as you-- so i re-watched "coffee prince" naturally. GONG YOO needs to have a kdrama comeback. ASAP.
and now i'm watching "sunny happiness" because of what everyone said about it on last week's Open Thread! i'm halfway through, and so far, it's been really refreshing! such a change from the few t-dramas i'd seen...and sweet and simple!
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Jeanie65jh
March 11, 2011 at 9:50 AM
Too funny! I just finished re-watching Coffee Prince because I've been bored since My Princess and Dream High ended.
But after reading the opinions above I might give Paradise Ranch a try. I had no interest before. It's what I love about threads like this! Drama Recommendations!!
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Carinne
March 11, 2011 at 11:02 AM
I've started to re-watch Meteor Garden. I have both series I & II so I hope to relive a wonderful thing. My MG marathon is on pause due to global current events.
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Becks
March 11, 2011 at 9:22 PM
ha ha--"I re-watched Coffee Prince, naturally"
definitely my go-to drama to rewatch--
again. . . and again. . .
also thinking of giving Paradise Ranch a try after reading the above
(but, idol-actors. . . not my thing)
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hookedonmonix
March 11, 2011 at 10:23 PM
me too! It's the only k-drama I've bought the dvds for. Although, after ep 12, the subs go sharply downhill.
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Lishuys
March 25, 2011 at 1:27 PM
i wasnt going to watch sunny happiness becos of the lame title but since u say itz okay - ill give it a go. beside . . . . mike he.
and agree on gong yoo . . . for sure asap:)
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silka
March 11, 2011 at 9:41 AM
Just finished watching Sunny Happiness and love it.. think Mike He is great in it... after watching.. i figure i will go back and watch Devils beside you again.. just to watch a younger Mike He.
Also, I also just finished watching My Princess.. very sweet.. love the ending...
oh.. just want to say that I have finished 'The Devil' last week... omg.. it was so good... if you like 'Sign' and have not watch 'The Devil' should really check it out...
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MJP
March 11, 2011 at 2:34 PM
Hey! That is exactly what I did. I finished Sunny Happiness and then went back and rewatched the first three episodes of Devil Beside You! Neat-o!
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saraha
March 11, 2011 at 10:19 PM
I'm only 6 eps in Sunny Happiness, but I also like the younger brother there. He's cute too. Hopefully though, his character won't become bad/annoying halfway through the run. :) (No spoilers for me!)
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angelpur
March 12, 2011 at 2:56 AM
Do you mind watching historical dramas? if you have nothing to watch, then you should check out the chinese drama "Jade palace Locket Heart/Gong". It's like boys over flowers (better acting, imo) in the olden days. It's quite funny, though I normally tend to watch kdramas. First ep is a bet meh-ish, but it gets better (and funnier).
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6 DeeDee315
March 11, 2011 at 7:05 AM
Can someone please explain why characters in Korean dramas wear glasses w/o glass? And now it seems to have become a fashion item with idols. I've seen many celebs on reality shows wearing just frames.
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Ashley Thomas
March 11, 2011 at 7:09 AM
I have no idea...and can I just say that it causes some funny situations, because the other day my Korean friend literally just reached out and poked her oppa in the eye, because she was trying to find out if there were lenses in his frames, or if he was making a fashion statement!! LOL!!! :D Luckily he actually did have glass in them, or she would have poked his eye out!
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joybells
March 11, 2011 at 7:46 AM
well they do seem to carry off these weird (!) styles perfectly....where as we on the other hand look mighty weird n get lots of stare from the people..haha
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ohemgee
March 11, 2011 at 9:23 AM
it's probably so that there isn't any glare or reflection from the cameras/crew when filming, but they somehow feel that the glasses are vital to the character and choose to do so without the lenses.
or they just wear them for fashion. people are weird.
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Beng
March 11, 2011 at 3:04 PM
i thought so too, eye glasses gives reflection and glares which might not be good in the camera. It will be too expensive to wear non-glare ones when you don't really need it. If the stars is not use to wearing glasses like Park Shin Yang in all his KDrama, it will be inconvenient when it fogged, it becomes oily when u constantly touch it, etc. etc. So yeah i think that's the reasons why they wear eye glasses without glasses.
Hahaha, i actually really look on the difference of those eye glasses in Dream High and Sign =)
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danna
March 11, 2011 at 7:30 AM
lol....so they are really wearing glasses w/o glasses?!.....I had a hard time focusing in the first few eps of Dream High wondering whether Baek Hee and Pil Suk were really wearing glasses or just frames...this was especially distracting in the eps with Yonsama cuz his glasses were huge and had glasses in them
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hunla15
March 11, 2011 at 8:10 AM
I don't know why they do it as a real life fashion statement, but normally on TV, anyone wearing glasses doesn't have actual lenses in the frame. The lenses creates a glare on film making it hard to see the actors eyes and expression, so, they just leave out the lenses.
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 8:13 AM
I used to wonder about that until I watched You're Beautiful.
Then I saw the scene with:
http://www.asianbite.com/Themes/images_comment/20110219063233.jpg
and understoood everything.
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houstontwin
March 11, 2011 at 11:05 AM
I see your point!
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Emily
March 11, 2011 at 1:47 PM
True that. Even with his mouth hanging open, he's SO ADORABLE!
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giddy
March 11, 2011 at 9:14 AM
Some of the students at the middle school where I teach have been doing that since last year. It's quite a distraction as they can pass them around more easily since there are no lens in them. It's all about the look. O.o
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GrandmaFran
March 11, 2011 at 12:15 PM
i think it's just a fashion statement. some people really look good in glasses, but have perfect vision. i know a lot of people think it's silly to wear glasses without lenses but honestly, aren't a bunch of the things we have on our bodies useless and really just there for adornment? earrings, bracelets, basically all jewelry, belts and suspenders that don't actually hold up anything, changing our hair color, ties, tattoos, growing facial hair, hats that don't block the sun, hairbands that don't keep hair out of our face, summer scarves just to add color to our outfits. just have fun with it i say =]
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ar_arguably romantic
March 11, 2011 at 8:39 PM
So weird! I never noticed that the glasses were glass-less! Now I have to look again! I just assumed that they wear some sort of uber-expensive non-reflective lenses.
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Balletgoddess
March 11, 2011 at 10:10 PM
I know right!!! I wAS thinking the same thing while watching Dream High
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7 Ashley Thomas
March 11, 2011 at 7:06 AM
Happy happy Friday, Open Thread friends!
Oh, what a week...have been feeling under the weather, so I holed up in my apartment this week for a couple of days and treated myself to a 9 End 2 Outs marathon.
I loved the drama so much...I'm turning 30 this year and single, and have had my share of heartache and loss this year, so I seriously identified with the characters!! I laughed, I cried...I drank a lot of coffee...and in the end I really felt the catharsis that comes after watching a good drama!
Hope you all are doing well. I will be praying today for the people of Japan...so sad to hear about the devastation there!!!
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Emily
March 11, 2011 at 7:18 AM
I'm 3/4th of the way through that drama, and while I'm not in my 30s yet, it's been identifiable. The friendship in that series is something that seems genuine and makes that drama work! Love it muchly!
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Ashley Thomas
March 11, 2011 at 7:56 AM
I totally agree...there's something so precious about that kind of friendship, and I feel blessed that I've been able to experience it myself...seeing it onscreen was a nice surprise, since it's rare in kdramas!
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 7:30 AM
Just finished this morning, and it still resonated with me and I am approaching 50 (YIKES!)
I gasped and LOL'ed and sighed during this, to my sleeping husband's dismay.
It was nice that we had a lot of time with the OTP without constantly switching to a subplot about father in debt, or something.
Lee Tae Sung was adorable, and you can see why they cast him in Playful Kiss. Is he starring a new drama yet?!
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Ashley Thomas
March 11, 2011 at 8:04 AM
Also nice...no evil scheming ex! I mean, yes, there's an ex...but at least she's a normal human being and not remotely similar to the robotic fem-bots of most kdramas! I loved that the friendships of the whole group were given time, and that it showed how people who are friends can remain so even when they're going through various different stages of life.
The performances by Lee Jung Jin and Soo Ae were just pitch-perfect, in my opinion...they were joyful and touching at the same time, and the chemistry they had onscreen was wonderful to watch.
It made me miss my best friend that just moved back to Korea so much, but I think in a way it was nice to be reminded of what a beautiful thing that kind of guy-girl friendship really is...even if it doesn't end up in a romance.
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Emily
March 11, 2011 at 1:49 PM
I actually just finished the drama and I love how the ending was open-ended to some degree. Like real life, everything doesn't get tied together with a perfect bow at one specific point in time. Stuff comes together, one at a time.
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elle loves kdrama
March 11, 2011 at 8:08 AM
This looks like something I could have written. I watched a that drama a little while ago, and it really struck a cord, because I am also single, insure about my career choice, and turning 30 this year...
Growing up is not not easy or maybe it's getting harder for me anyway... but it's all about about attitude, I guess. Let's make the last year in our 20s a GREAT one! :D
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Ashley Thomas
March 11, 2011 at 8:24 AM
Yeah...this is definitely not where I thought I'd be when I was turning 30, but I'm determined to make it a good year nevertheless!
My heart is still over in Korea right now, and it's been hard dealing with that. But I'm making myself start taking action even though I don't feel much like it, and so I'm about to apply for the Graduate Certificate in TESOL program at a university. If I get in, I'll study there for a year and then after that I'm planning to go to work in Korea.
One thing this drama emphasized is the unpredictability of life, and I really appreciate that - the older I get, the more I realize it's about making the most of the plotline life throws in your direction, and recognizing that you can find joy even within the unexpected. :)
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sunshine
March 11, 2011 at 8:41 AM
umh,portia...ur planin to go work in korea,so a small question-is it difficult to work and live in korea if u dont know korean and just understand basic n i really mean basic kdrama korean but fluent in english? coz im planin to go work there someday after ma graduation is over
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Ashley Thomas
March 11, 2011 at 10:04 AM
I think if you are teaching English, you can probably find other English-speakers to interact with, since there's a large population of English teachers in Korea right now. From what I understand the usage of English in Seoul is pretty high (well, for Korea anyway) but outside Seoul it's much harder to find English-speaking people.
I would think that you might at least want to study a basic level of Korean before you go over - that's what I'm doing, and my Korean friends have suggested it because they say that even though English isn't that hard to find, fluent English speakers are still rare in Korea. At the very least, having some knowledge of Korean (reading and writing, some speaking) will help you get around the country without as much difficulty as you might have otherwise - plus, that way you'd be able to make more actual Korean friends and not just stay in an English-speaking bubble!
sunshine
March 12, 2011 at 4:04 AM
@portia
thank you for you're reply,actually im not going there to teach english,im a civil engineering student,and many korean construction companies come to my college for recruitments after our graduation,so im considering appling for a job with placement in korea.
Place where i live,korean classes are not available,so im triyin my best to learn korean through net. Can you refer me a few self-tutoring korean language books?
lvsanchez
March 11, 2011 at 8:09 AM
Is it by any chance similar to Woman Who Still Wants to Marry? If so, I'm definitely going to have to check this one out.
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girlatsea
March 11, 2011 at 9:45 AM
Not necessarily. She does have a relationship with a college student but it's more about the best friend relationship between the main leads. It was really good though, I highly recommend it! I marathoned it in about 2 days earlier this week.
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8 Kdramaddict
March 11, 2011 at 7:07 AM
What a tragedy that happend in Japan :(
It was really unespected. I hope that Hawai and the other places under the alert of tsumani don't suffer the same impact as Japan.
Peace to all the people that lost their life in this catastrophy and strenght to their families.
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9 joybells
March 11, 2011 at 7:09 AM
its terrifying to see,the devastation in japan.hundreds of lives lost n massive infrastructure damage all around.....the infrastructure can be rebuilt again,but da lives lost can't be replaced.i feel helpless,sitting here at home,warm and safe with family and loved ones when the people there are homeless,hungry and in danger..........let us all pray for the people of japan
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 8:27 AM
amen
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angelpur
March 12, 2011 at 3:00 AM
I was watching youtube clips of the devastation in Japan and it makes me appreciate that I live in England where there's basically no natural disasters. I pray for the people in Japan (and other countries which are alert for tsunamis).
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10 Emily
March 11, 2011 at 7:12 AM
Hello everyone, TGIF!
This is my first time posting on the Open Thread, even though I've been coming to this site for a while!
Has anyone seen Midas yet? The trailer for that show looked a little weird, so it's not on my to-watch list as of now...
And as much as I'm psyched that Yonghwa is going to have another movie role with Park Shin Hye, I really hope that he work on his acting. Love his songs to pieces but his acting not so much.
Prayers to the families in Japan and Hawaii!
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Ashley Thomas
March 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM
Welcome to the OT family! :)
I haven't watched Midas yet, either, for the same reason. Maybe they should have rethought the way they did the trailer, hahaha! >.<
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joybells
March 11, 2011 at 7:26 AM
welcome emily
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 8:01 AM
Welcome Emily! *hugs* :)
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Emily
March 11, 2011 at 1:51 PM
Thanks for the warm welcome, all!
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giddy
March 11, 2011 at 9:22 AM
Subs are slow to come down, but I enjoyed episode 1 and look forward to episode 2. Jang Hyuk is sweet and Min Jung is warm--didn't see the trailers so don't know what the weirdness is about.
Maybe since the tsunami warning has everything closed in Hawaii today, it's a good time to catch up on some kdramas!
There has been some damage from the tsunami on the shorelines, boats, harbors, and some roads are closed. Lots of people were evacuated (including hotels in Waikiki) in low lying areas and are waiting to return home.
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Birdie
March 11, 2011 at 11:25 AM
I have watched up to Episode 4 Midas. Can't say it is keeping my interest. I was expecting it to be better.I like JH and LMJ acting in their previous dramas, but not this one. Surprisingly there is zero chemistry between them. They were supposed to be an engaged couple in love,but it just did not translate. The plot so far is predictable and boring. Hopefully the pace will up, and get more interesting. I am ready to drop it.
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MJP
March 11, 2011 at 2:37 PM
Emily, Glad you are here! Welcome!
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Elle-Emme
March 11, 2011 at 2:40 PM
i am watching it
its different set up upi have a woman who is scheming to take over her father business
there are subtle background stories which i am now wondering how they will get solved
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watchumlots
March 12, 2011 at 1:33 AM
I've been watching Midas, like it. As said in an earlier posting somewhere, Midas is very similar in plot/structure to the Tom Cruise movie, The Firm. The Firm was about a small law firm that laundered money for organized crime. The law firm in Midas supports a rich family. The story seems to be about crossing the double-crossers, up to episode 4 I think, can't determine who/how major players will prevail.
Also watching New Tales of Gisaeng, really like that one, can't wait for each weekend's episodes. It's being recapped on JustDramas.
Looking forward to watching the new Song Il-gook drama, going to wait for a few more episodes. Glad to see something with a little 'meat' after all the 'fluff' of My Princess, Dream High, and Mischievous Kiss, etc.
Watched Bottom of 9th, 2 Outs. It's OK, but like most dramas, could have been tightened considerably with 10 episodes max.
Watched Sunny Happiness, it also wore me out with the shilly-shallying, dilly-dallying. It was a very long trip to get from here to where we knew they would end.
Finished Single Daddy in Love, still don't know what that was about.
Currently also watching Three Dads, One Mom. Cute. Similar to Three Men and a Baby.
Want something that keeps me on the edge-of-my-seat! Something that isn't predictable. Suggestions?
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11 hsinya
March 11, 2011 at 7:14 AM
So does everyone know that Kim Soo Hyun's dad was actually the lead singer in a K-rock band in the 80's called Seven Dolphins? I yelled at my computer screen when I read the news, "That's totally Sam-dong!!!" LOL. Now we know where he got his singing talent. I wonder if anyone can find clips or soundbites of his dad singing? I'm so curious to know what he sounds like. :P
Praying for the victims of the Sendai earthquake/tsunami.
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 8:15 AM
Photo linkies, please?
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anitalotti
March 11, 2011 at 11:17 AM
Or the Korean spelling of the name so I google them myself?
Thanks in advance.
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hsinya
March 11, 2011 at 7:31 PM
The news articles don't come with pictures of his dad:
http://news.donga.com/3/all/20110309/35431178/1
But here's his iTunes page with a picture of him in shades (His name is 김충훈):
http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/id380031502
Also an album folder of Seven Dolphins:
http://blog.daum.net/_blog/BlogTypeView.do?blogid=0ROKo&articleno=19773&_bloghome_menu=recenttext#ajax_history_home
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anitalotti
March 12, 2011 at 5:43 AM
Thanks!
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jomo143
March 12, 2011 at 6:29 AM
Wow! Thanks for doing all that research!
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12 DeeDee315
March 11, 2011 at 7:14 AM
Having lived in Tokyo for 4 years, I experienced several earthquakes, but can't even imagine one of this magnitude. Prayers to the people of Japan and all the Pacific Islands in the path of the Tsunami.
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13 danna
March 11, 2011 at 7:20 AM
Happy Friday everyone!!!!...yay for all those who like me are starting spring next week and have no work to do and plenty of time for dramas!
but there are no current dramas to watch so I'm going to be marathoning a bunch till 49 days start...right now I'm watchin Sunny Happiness and Sons of Sol pharmacy!!....I absolutely adore Sol Pharmacy and their characters, it doeant trump LiB which was the first family drama I watched in terms of directing, acting and story but I still love it and this is the first time I'm wishing I was the part of some fictional Korean household....lol
I wish I was just as into Sunny Happiness though.....Its cute and I can see how it is different from so many Tw dramas I've seen in the past but it hasnt completely drawn me in yet and idk if its because I've been really stressed and cant focus or if its the drama....eitherways I hope I can get into it soon....Also really excited for 49 days after watching the 10 min preview yesterday...it looks cool!....it remind me a bit of Shining Inheritance and Prosecutor Princess in terms of tone so I think that should be a good thing!!!...Anyways happy weekend everyone!!!!
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danna
March 11, 2011 at 7:31 AM
just heard the news on Japan....my prayers for all the victims
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14 joybells
March 11, 2011 at 7:21 AM
when i read in dramabeans a few days back that huyn bin and song hye-gyo are over....my first thought was-" omo she is single now,hope she wont get hooked up with lee min ho'... as lee minho is always going on and on about how much he admires her...
if nobody in OT has claimed till now,then can i officially claim lee min ho as ma husband....pretty plezzz...("_")
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pumpzz
March 11, 2011 at 9:39 AM
lol. Yeah he was so open about it.
I hope the same way too. I'm okay with Son Ye Jin though. (Yeah. I ship them)
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MJP
March 11, 2011 at 2:17 PM
Seriously, what is likeable about Lee Min Ho? I just don't get it...
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pumpzz
March 12, 2011 at 12:23 AM
that is exactly my thought when I first saw him in BOF. I didn't like him at first. Idk why. I don't even bother to watch it when it was airing here in our country despite of all the hype it's getting.
But when I watch Personal Taste (I watch because I like the premise of the show) I fell in love with his character. I eventually like him as an actor. He can act. AND he is ridiculously good looking.
I understand that some people like him and some people don't. People have different interest.
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joybells
March 12, 2011 at 3:01 AM
@ MJP, as pumpzz mentioned-different people,different taste. well hez my "personal preference" haha...
BOF was a royal mess,lee min ho was the only saving grace in it...:-)
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jomo143
March 12, 2011 at 8:14 AM
I know LMH doesn't need me to defend him, but I can tell you why I would watch him in anything.
Lee Min Ho is surprising.
From some angles, his looks are average.
The perm they had him in BOF was the most unattractive style I have ever seen on a leading man. It shouldn't have been allowed, but somehow he won over audiences even with it.
From some angles, and with the right hair, he is a god.
Despite how young he is, he can take on the aura of a much older and more mature man. I agree with JB about LMH being the main reason BOF succeeded despite its hotmess-ness.
At 23 years old, with no leading man experience to call on, he carried the show.
He started as a model, right? He shouldn't have been able to do this.
He was able to do angry/hateful JunPyo so we all loathed him as much as JanDi, but then, somewhere, we started to see him as sad and lonely.
(I'll take LMH's angry over SSH's any day of the week.)
He also does the "I cannot tell you how I feel, but I love you" face very well. Is the word "conflicted"?
In interviews, he is a big goof with no sense of entitlement, and shares embarrassing stories about himself willingly.
I don't like the CF work that much, because I think it's all one note "Look at how freaking hot I am! I would totally wear this sexy outfit IRL, and all this guy-liner, I would. And see that gorgeous woman over there trying to get my attention with little or not clothes on? I don't."
This was fun!
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pumpzz
March 12, 2011 at 8:47 AM
^^
Very well said. You put my thoughts into words.
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MJP
March 12, 2011 at 1:40 PM
So in other words, I should see him in something other than Boys Over Flowers? Okay, I am willing to give him a chance. I will check out some of his other work then. I'll start with Personal Taste. Thanks for the honest replies!
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15 Stella
March 11, 2011 at 7:29 AM
Happy Friday Everyone!
So awhile back I was serching online for something cute to use as my display pic. I love Hello Kitty and saw someone with a Hello Kitty tatoo, wearing the Hanibal Lector mask...sick right? So I went online searching for it.
I checked under "Emo Hello Kitty" and I found a nude one. Yeah, Hello Kitty with boobies and a vajayjay.....OMG! I can't bleach my eyeballs enough. Totally traumatized by this, cus naked cartoons are just wrong!
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joybells
March 11, 2011 at 7:39 AM
haha,must have been a shocker
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Ashley Thomas
March 11, 2011 at 8:17 AM
This made me laugh out loud at my desk! Hahahah, you poor thing...sounds like you need a mind-wipe to clear you of that image. :D
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 8:31 AM
Here you go Stella. *hands over brain http://media.photobucket.com/image/brain+bleach+/Midge626/Other/MotivatorBrainBleach2.jpgbleach*
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 8:32 AM
brain bleach http://media.photobucket.com/image/brain+bleach+/Midge626/Other/MotivatorBrainBleach2.jpg
:P
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16 daebak
March 11, 2011 at 7:32 AM
Hyun Bin's enlistment made me sad coz he'll be away for two years!! I will miss Binnie :( Also, his breakup made me shocked, I wish them both all the best.
Yoon Eun Hye is being rumored to be the female lead of the upcoming drama Sweet Scandal and guess what........... Lee Seo Jin and Park Shi Hoo are the male leads!!! I like them both but I prefer Park Shi Hoo to be the male lead. Gosh, I really hope that she accepts the role. :D
As for the dating news, Finally, Go Soo is dating and I'm very happy for him.
What are your thoughts on Jung Woo Sung and Lee Ji Ah? It was rumored that they are dating (They're both in Paris now) Some took pics also. :D
I pray for Japan. God bless us all. Enjoy the weekend. Let us all pray for for Japan.
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saraha
March 11, 2011 at 10:23 PM
Jung Woo Sung is sexy and intense, while Lee Ji Ah is... just MEH for me. I don't see it, but I want JWS to be happy and settle down soon (he is after all approaching 40)...
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17 samgetang
March 11, 2011 at 7:38 AM
With a lot of things happening in the world right now (and Im sure in many of your own worlds, too!) I have mixed feelings that there is nothing much that is exciting going on in the kdrama landscape. Bit sad that MP is over but also happy that we can have some semblance of normality in our lives, hahaha.
I've decided to focus now on nutrition, particularly for kids.
So Im reading "Optimum Nutrition for your Child's Mind: Maximise Your Child's Potential" by Patrick Holford and later will chew on "What to Eat" by Marion Nestle.
No, I dont have my own kids...just kids that I care for during my volunteer work. Im trying to find out how we can give better foods that will significantly help them to improve how they learn.
It's exciting to learn about this in the context of how the east is now rising vs the west, oriental medicine and western medicine, and in the backdrop of Tiger Mom/Amy Chua's book, Robert Compton's 20 Million Minutes project/documentary film and Dambisa Moyo's books.
Any life-changing books you are reading these days, OT people?
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 9:06 AM
As far as children, there is a tiny one called Brain Gym that among many things, stresses the importance of water for brain development, and how so many kids tend to be dehydrated.
Another parenting book: NurtureShock, by Po Bronson and Ashley Merryman talks about how parents need to avoid non-specific and non-action related praising.
It reminds of the difference between the
English idiom:Good job!
vs
Korean idiom: You worked hard!
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samgetang
March 11, 2011 at 1:10 PM
Thanks, Jomo. Should read on that Nurture Shock. I know! In YouTube there's a channel by 2MillionMinutes and they feature one clip where it says how kids in India/China are not classified as either good in this or that subject but rather if they fail in that subject the understanding is that it is not a permanent thing and they should therefore work on it so that they can improve.
Here's the link to that:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVTbCs9ib7Y&feature=related
First time I heard about dehydration among kids as one reason for their poor brain dev. Thanks for that, Jomo.
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isabelh
March 11, 2011 at 9:42 AM
I just finished "Women, Television and Everyday Life in Korea"by Youna Kim, a Korean who teaches at the London School of Economics, based on interviews with women in 3 age groups and 2 social/economic classes. The research was done 10 years ago, but has given me a LOT more respect for the choices made by the women characters in the dramas I watch. Brought out the centrality of family but lack of individual options faced by Korean women, at least 10 years ago.
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samgetang
March 11, 2011 at 1:12 PM
Very interesting, isabelh. I think kdrama addicts should read on that one. How do you get a copy of it?
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isabelh
March 11, 2011 at 2:29 PM
I got it at the University Library, but if you don't have access that way, a public library may be able to get it on interlibrary loan. Sometimes there is a charge if it comes from an academic library, which I think this one would; probably a lot less than buying it, though.
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samgetang
March 11, 2011 at 4:34 PM
Thanks, isabelh. I think Kim Youna should write another book about the internet communities that grew from the TV dramas that are now easily available online and the vast dubbing/subbing/segmenting/recapping/reviewing explosion that these media spawned in the last decade. Maybe starting with the people here in DB :-) but I guess the people here can write much better about it than any learned scholar. Any takers? :-)
legalisfun
March 11, 2011 at 1:41 PM
i would love to read it but amazon is selling it fo...£90!!!!!
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samgetang
March 11, 2011 at 4:25 PM
wow! 90pounds! must be either a very thick book or a very sought after book :-) looks like the kdrama addicts are onto it already....
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18 lessaofpern
March 11, 2011 at 7:43 AM
Happy Friday everyone!!!! I hope you all have a great weekend! :D I'm off to do some heavy duty spring cleaning! :D After I am done I will relax by watching some Paradise Ranch and Sunny Happiness :D :D HUGS to my OT friends and family! Now I'm off to take some Claritin before I start :P
GDragon in a Kilt :D Enjoy!!!! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teK9URDmQjY&feature=player_embedded
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 8:33 AM
*hugs* :p
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19 jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 7:46 AM
I guess it is time for us to count our blessings...So horrible...
I have a question for ceux qui parlent francais.
Does it ever confuse you when they someone asks a question like
"Do you know why that happened?"
and the response is what sounds like
"Que sait?"
I automatically hear "Qui sait?" so it makes sense!
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 8:05 AM
I have just found out about what happened in Japan. This so saddening. :( My prayers are with them.
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lessaofpern
March 11, 2011 at 8:13 AM
My prayers are with the People of Japan. For those of you on OT that have friends and family there. I pray they are safe and that God is watching over them. Ameen.
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lessaofpern
March 11, 2011 at 8:30 AM
Here are the countries that a tsunami could hit:
The National Weather Service list includes Japan, Russia, the Philippines, Indonesia, Papua New Guinea, Australia, Fiji, Mexico, New Zealand, Guatemala, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Nicaragua, Panama, Honduras, Chile, Ecuador, Colombia, Peru and the United States.
May God watch over them. Ameen.
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mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 8:43 AM
What an extensive list....The world will have to come together on this one.
OMO!
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Neimat Ilyas
March 11, 2011 at 8:53 AM
Ameen.
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Lahlita
March 11, 2011 at 10:11 AM
"Que sait?" is the colloquial form of "Que sait-on?" (literally "What does one know?" or "What is known?" or "What do we know?" and idiomatically "Who knows?").
Par exemple: "Pourquoi n'arrêtent-ils pas de se parler de la fiction Coréenne?" "Pfft, que sait?" "Why won't they stop talking about Korean drama? Pfft, who knows?" :D
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 10:22 AM
Do you know what they are saying in Korean that sounds like "Que sait?"
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Lahlita
March 11, 2011 at 10:36 AM
Oh, hahaha! I COMPLETELY didn't realize you were talking about Korean. Then, no, I have no effing idea. Hahaha. Wow, Lahlita. Reading comprehension FAIL.
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM
LOL!
Alex P
March 11, 2011 at 11:07 AM
Where did you hear that? Sounds too weird for my French brain. But yes, it's awesome being able to make the connection automatically :) I speak Frenglish all the time at home and with other bilinguals (I'm a Montrealer). Makes for some interesting conversations.
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 11:39 AM
I wish I could give you an exact scene.
After later, I will find a link of a clip that I can post here.
(I lived in QC City from 1981 -1985 when I was at Laval.)
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Rachel
March 11, 2011 at 4:31 PM
I asked my Korean tutor about that, cause I also kept hearing what sounded like French. She told me this comes from 그 ("that") and 사이 ("between"), so you get 그 사이에 ("meanwhile" or "in the meantime").
My dictionary writes it as I just did (그 사이에), to mean "meanwhile." My tutor, however, wrote it as 그새 (which sounds more exactly like what I hear) and defined it as "in the meantime" or "already."
I think she was trying to explain that it has the sense of something happening between two other things, or along the way between two actions or states, or interrupting two actions... like you'd say "You're back from teaching already?" with the 그새 coming between "teaching" and "back."
Or the other example she gave (probably more applicable to dramas) is you might say this to someone if they promised they wouldn't gamble or smoke, or cheat on you or whatever... then it'd be with the 그새 coming between the idea of your promise and the gambling (or whatever), and meaning something like "You couldn't keep from doing that again, already?"
Anyway, that's what I understood from her :)
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Rachel
March 11, 2011 at 4:48 PM
Now that I'm thinking about this, though, I think I'm going to have to ask my tutor again, cause I also feel like I hear this in response to questions like "Why did that happen?" -- in which case what I hear in French makes perfect sense -- but I'm not sure an answer like "already" or "meanwhile" makes complete sense. Maybe it's just the way the question/answer translate into English...
jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 7:37 PM
Wow! Thanks for the detailed and still mystifying answer.
Could it be like the French "comme ci, comme ca"?
Like this like that
Somewhere in the middle
I have to find someone saying it so I can trace back what type of question is asked.
If asked a HOW or WHAT question, do you expect a time answer?
THIS is why I love studying languages. It really works your imagination.
Aisuo415
March 11, 2011 at 11:56 AM
Is it '글쎄' ?? Because that means well (as in... 'Well... let me see.') and you'd pronounce it... well, kind of like that haha
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 12:17 PM
THAT'S IT! Merci!
is the 글 a part of the expression that sounds like
"Kwa koo nohn"
which I am guessing means "I see" but not really?
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brookeeve
March 11, 2011 at 3:35 PM
My friend is in Japan teaching preschool English. He said that he was stuck in the school with the kids when it hit, and that they all spent the night safely in the school because they couldn't go home. He said that he's safe, but that there's a lot of dead bodies and destruction.
He also married a girl over there, and she and her family are safe, so praise God.
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 6:25 PM
I am so glad he is alright! *hugs*
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20 Shin mi rAe
March 11, 2011 at 7:47 AM
My prayers to the people of japan and the pacific ream. Be strong. Be safe.
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21 Neimat Ilyas
March 11, 2011 at 7:49 AM
Everyone pray for the people affected by the earthquake in Japan! May God give patience to those still buried and those who survived. May He help us learn the right lessons from these tragedies. May He guide the rescuers' hands. May He increase us in love for the poor and the oppressed.
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mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 7:51 AM
Amen, and amen!
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lessaofpern
March 11, 2011 at 8:13 AM
Ameen.
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annie
March 11, 2011 at 1:26 PM
Ameen.
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22 SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 7:56 AM
Wonder anyone of you have been following JJY scandal? The alleged identities of the 31 persons appeared on her list is interesting!!
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mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 8:02 AM
Are you referring to the actress who committed suicide?
If so, I read today that now there is this insinuation that someone has tampered with her letters....She is not going to get justice it seems....
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SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 8:21 AM
Yes, but there is an alleged hide away list now being circulated in the Internet. Some big names like the former chairman of Lotte group, the former CEO of a major news agency and the current CEO of Olive9!!!
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mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 8:38 AM
So these guys are no longer paying for the regulars, the actresses and ??? are now their prostitutes of choice....
Sighs, the more things change, the more they stay the same....
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SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 8:57 AM
Human nature never change: greed, lust, anger, pride/ego, ignorant and jealousy/suspicious.
mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 9:11 AM
I hope these ladies are not going that route to get a "sponsor" for their makeovers for existence in kdramaland?
It a snare that's been around for ages, "...all is vanity..."
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SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 9:49 AM
I am not talking about those ladies. I am referring to the guys that appeared on the list!!
You can pretty much assume that many of the actresses who made to the top, especially those do not attend good university and have some family background are falling prey to those guys!! It is sad, but those guys have the money, power and connection. And those ladies what air time, fame, and money. Hence, it is pretty much an exchange and some of them feel that they were short change or overtaken by guilt, shame and conscience, that's the reasons you see so many suicide recently.
JJY is not the first and never will be the last one!!
mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 10:00 AM
I know, but there would not be "those guys" if the actresses or whoever were not willing to make the uneven exchange.... The rate is not to their advantage.
Ppl know what's going on and chose to turn a blind eye because of all the "cute"....I'm not a fan of the "cute" for obvious reasons....
SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 10:10 AM
Which "cute" are referring to? It is best for us to speculate about the "cute". Many actresses' names are now being implicated. You or I can draw up our own conclusion looking at the authenticity of the list and names. But, what I can tell you is that, it will be covered up eventually, and the press will do self censoring, under the name of protecting the Korean waves.
Uneven exchange is very subjective. I think it all voice down to equate lust with greed for money, fame, recognition and popularity. That's the price of aspiring to become a star!!
SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 10:12 AM
Sorry, it is best we do NOT speculate about the cute!!!
mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 10:16 AM
Are you serious???? Am I reading you correctly? They have posted names of other actresses!!!! That is just wrong.
Once I read that there was a possible tampering with the letters, I thought coverup and reasonable doubt....
mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 10:18 AM
True dat about NOT speculating re the "cute"....
SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 10:28 AM
Yes, in her alleged letter, she alleged some of her seniors who were once advised her to take it easy, because they had far worst treatment as comparing to her. So, names of actresses who attached to her former agency were implicated. Two of them were veterans and one is very popular, and the other one is attached to a very popular husband!!
SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 10:31 AM
Forgot to add, four actresses from the aforesaid agency had committed suicide in the past 2 years!! Amen!!
mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM
If this happened in the US, once the wives found out they would divorce their husbands (eventually, after showing their support for the cameras) and take half of whatever he owns for the children....
SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 11:02 AM
Haha...I have to disagree with your statement. It does not apply to bill and Hilary for the sake of serving the American interest!!! LOL
mskololia
March 11, 2011 at 11:09 AM
kekekeke, Bill did not "sleep" with that woman. Remember?
houstontwin
March 11, 2011 at 11:15 AM
I think that it is a big mistake to blame actresses for giving in to the pressure of the casting couch. That is really blaming the victim. Men who pressure their subordinates for sex in any workplace, whether in the corporate world, the university, or in the entertainment industry need to face the consequences of their criminal behavior!
SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 11:18 AM
Good point, i bet those guys will sure have the best lawyer in town to help them to argue along the line of bill, especially the 89-year old Lotte's former chairman!!
Well, how can we be sure of what bill told us, and what's the truth? LOL!!!
SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 11:25 AM
It is an exchange, I dare to argue that those actresses were not victim!! Those actresses had to ask what 's their own real motive is? If what they want is quick route to fame and money, they really have no one to blame accept themselves. It is an exchange!!
tildy
March 11, 2011 at 12:30 PM
I agree it may not be entirely truthful to make any woman who has participated in a casting couch scenario to be a victim. Many do enter into the arrangement freely, greedily, and willingly, with eyes wide open. But that may not be the case all the time. Also consider how so very young many aspiring actresses are (ouch bad sentence). The casting couch mentality is sadly commonplace and agents, etc. may also try to pressure actresses into reluctantly agreeing to trade sexual favors. Furthermore, it's inherently an imbalanced position where the man has the position, power, and leverage. Not all the women are victims, but it still sickens me that there are men who abuse their power and prey on all that youthful desperation.
My heart goes out to everyone affected by the earthquake and tsunami in Japan. I'm not particularly religious at the moment, but I'll pray for them as well.
SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 1:47 PM
Yes, point taken that some of them were so very young. However, it is an unwritten rule, so one so very young does have some sense of whether they have been forced into it unwillingly i.e rape or simply playing along ignorantly. Furthermore, the question now also involves some veteran actresses. Then, it makes one wonder whether those A list actresses in Korea were mere high class prostitute?
The strange thing is that there were hardly any cases of actresses being rape cases publicize or mere taboo, except what one saw on Dream High?
Imbalance power, position etc is true, but Korea is a country rules by law, and have a criminal justice system which is working, but why these girls did not come forward, but chose a tragic way to end their lifes?
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tildy
March 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM
You know, I don't know that I would consider most cases rape as much as regretted sex, which is a entirely different. But even if it's not rape, repeatedly selling yourself (whether it was completely a free choice or if it was coerced) takes an enormous toll on self esteem that may not be initially apparent. I've been depressed so I know - it's not necessarily clear to oneself that you're depressed and that you need to go find help.
I know the casting couch is something that girls who want to break into the entertainment industry are probably aware of, but at the same time it could be a case of thinking you were ready to do what it took and realizing that you're really not. Perhaps JJY got in over her head, and when she realized how unhappy she was with herself and felt trapped by her past choices. Who knows, really? It could she had other problems we don't know about.
The main reason actresses don't come forward or even privately seek help is because they feel shame, they feel dirty, they feel irredeemable, and the Korean society and press doesn't do much to help. Which is not to single out Korea - victim blaming is omnipresent. You find it in just about any society, it's just that Korea in particular can be very vicious to women involved in sex scandals. The subject is taboo - I was surprised that Dream High went there. Because the problem is so invisible in the public discourse, women are afraid to come forward, worried about their (maybe even their family's) reputations, and don't know where to turn for help. I try not to speculate major stars (in Hallyu or Hollywood) because it would drive me nuts and I can't really do much about it.
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 3:54 PM
Tildy that was a very well thought out response. Thank you.
SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 8:44 PM
Now we have three emotions at play with those "cute"' i.e fear, shame and guilt. Korea is a country which is high in masculine and high power distance. Hence, I believe what JJY did may actually work to shame those guys. The next, I hope there will be some divine interventions to make those guys feel fear and guilty!!!
samgetang
March 11, 2011 at 4:17 PM
This is sad...but also the reality not only in Korean entertainment but in other countries as well. What's even sadder, or should I say better (depends on how you see it), the people who went through this kind of ordeal in Korea are driven to end their own lives. I say better because in other countries the society/ environment seem to be comparatively more corrupted/ more liberal and so those who are forced or driven to this path just swallow their pride/dignity/humanity and even convince themselves it's alright. They may have not ended their lives but it is no different when dignity and self-respect is lost. The fact that some of the Korean women/men would rather end their lives than live with the shame tells a lot about the remaining dignity of that society.
I think this is the price for ambition and success. The society does not help when audience demand so much from their idols in terms of looks and appearances and when talent managers do not truly take good care of their talents but only treat them as milking cows.
Im no expert on law, but with regards to the young actors/actresses/stars, even if they agreed to it willingly as a kind of fair exchange, is this not considered statutory rape? Because the men/women who victimise them used their positions of power to make them agree to the act. But I guess the age of consent would differ in various countries...
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SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 8:58 PM
I guess the perspective of you ladies on victim is quite different from a guy perspective. I see it as a deal, a willing buyer and willing seller. The cute feel they were short change, shame and guilt when the deals went sour.
Furthermore, How can it consider statutory rape when the girl actually agreed to do it with a "hope" for something in exchange (whether not to shame the family, out of their own shame or guilt).
If these "cute" has no self love and self respect in the first instance, how can they expect similar treatment from those guys?
Everything has a price, except unconditional love or true love.
samgetang
March 12, 2011 at 2:20 AM
I think our perspective changes when we speak about the people who went through this ordeal not as distant idols or stars but as our own friends or family even.
In those cases, we may not just speak about technicalities or legalities, but whether the person they dealt with have abused their power over that person even if he/she was willing to agree to the act for a fair exchange.
Laws are meant to protect the powerless and in most cases those in power go scot-free because they hold all the aces and most of the time the other party is not willing to expose them for shame of exposing also their own gullibility and/or similar dark intentions.
If we are talking about people we love who are driven to this kind of situation, we may exhaust all our resources to ensure that those who took advantage of their gullibility, innocence, or stupidity even, be responsible somewhat for what happened to that person in the end. If not for their gross abuse of their power these people would not be ending their lives in such a tragic way. And even if they ended their lives eventually for lost hopes and dreams at least it will not be because somebody made them a promise that required them to lose their self-respect in the process.
mskololia
March 12, 2011 at 7:14 AM
I'm a woman and while not knowing the full details do not see these actors as victims but hostages to their own desires for fame, money and a better lifestyle. Self-respect and self-love can make you not succumb to carnal cravings of the rich and powerful. These men cannot be fully to blame for preying on those who willing come to their dens of lust.
These actors are not my friends or families even though I like or love to watch them on the screen. They are strangers in whom I may take an interest in just to see them again. If they are good, I think providence would have paved the way for them if genuinely good at their craft. The good ones should help each other, but I rather think this is the opposite due to the "crazy" fans out there who will go nuclear to protect their own as if they have any rights. It's all imagined and that is scary what the industry cultivates in the way of maintaining a scoreboard on these ladies (men no doubt want in on this fandom).
This insane pressure for attention, which is milked for all its worth is fueled by the fans. The fans keep this sort of thing perpetuated and some love to ruin lives or think they have some noble cause to help their idols along..... As a spectator in all of this and sometimes a contributor in a drama’s popularity because the “drama” was so good based on the acting, directing and script.
Why should we pity these entertainers who are living comfortably after they pay an entrance fee of "free sex"? They took the easy way to fame and surprise, surprise some men wanted interest on their investments…. There are probably lots of young women still willing to and are going that route even as I type this because they want the name recognition and lofty lifestyles and are conned into being a participant in promoting the Korean wave…. They are martyrs indeed cultivated within this collective society.
feverpitch
March 12, 2011 at 10:27 AM
hi everyone!
sorry to jump in. i'm new here. my older sis frequents this site and got curious (im using her laptop so...ssshhh!)
this topic sure is very controversial and no doubt extremely debatable. hence many societies would rather just sweep this under the rug for fear of opening up more scary stuff. too hot to handle indeed.
for purposes of discussion only, may i know your point of view on the following...do you agree/disagree?
1. the world is evil and bound for destruction.
2. human beings are basically evil and if given the chance will self-destruct.
3. if people do evil things to others they should be held responsible for it.
4. if people do evil things to him/herself then they deserve what they get in terms of the consequences of their sins.
5. sometimes people who do evil things to others or to themselves do not get the appropriate punishment right away and that is reality but eventually they will get what they deserve unless they ask pardon/reprieve.
6. even if the evil deed is grave if the sinner sincerely asks for forgiveness he/she deserves to be pardoned however the consequences of his/her sins may not be totally eradicated.
7. part of asking for forgiveness is making amends for what you admitted to doing wrong.
7. even if all the above is true/agreeable to you, in the face of all the inherent evil, all good men should still try to fight against evil and try to save the powerless, the children, the abused and try to delay/prevent/preserve those who are on their way to destruction.
i'm asking this because our views on the above will determine how we will view and approach the issue of the casting couch.
and finally, do you believe that we all make a stand for or against something? and not making a stand is in fact already a stand in itself?
sorry for all the questions...hope you can enlighten me some more (maybe i will use this topic for my next term paper in class...arghh!)
- from a curious observer
feverpitch
SpongeBob
March 12, 2011 at 7:29 PM
Hahah...is it your mid term assignment? LOL
feverpitch
March 13, 2011 at 7:24 AM
mr, or is it ms, spongebob, yes sorta...thanks if you can help...
An Observer
March 13, 2011 at 12:00 PM
SpongeBob is a man. You can tell by the way he writes.
You sound like you have some background knowledge of Christianity. Most of your questions seem based on that knowledge. The word "sinner" is a dead give away... This word can also be off-putting to some, confusing to others.
As to whether you are male or female... Write some more and I may be able to tell.
joybells
March 11, 2011 at 8:59 AM
im lost here,can somebody please explain to me wat scandal?
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SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM
JJY's suicide case and the police is re-opening the case!! In one of her alleged letter, she claimed she had had sex with 31 guys (some quite big shot) in Korea for more than 100 times.
The 31 names are now circulated on the Internet.
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joybells
March 12, 2011 at 3:21 AM
31 guys and more than a 100 times!!!!! gawd,this is really sickening.....
BUT then again this is rampant in most of the entertainment business all over the world.....this may some what be a lil different,but even in the modelling world,models are made to go through these dealings.And at times even males,and not onli females are made to go through this kind of ordeal.I had read a article where an aspiring male(straight) modal had confessed being forced to go to bed with a homosexual designer to get a place in a place in his next fashion show..
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legalisfun
March 11, 2011 at 1:51 PM
no doubt this will be a 7 day wonder, and then swiftly swept under the carpet...and the casting couch auditions will continue to go on until someonelse dies and then its investigations all over again...
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ar_arguably romantic
March 11, 2011 at 3:49 PM
99% of me agree with you. I remember the news about the JJY and casting couch issue ending after 2 or 3 weeks.
The other 1% hopes that the Dream High episode has indicated to people that this is serious issue and that these filthy POS be prosecuted.
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23 Viola
March 11, 2011 at 7:57 AM
Fun with Physics: K Idol Edition
Episode 1 : Gravity Defying Pants
Exhibit A :http://api.ning.com/files/b4UnZQexX8Kbw5NFwGqAcwZ32K*bi4A5Q7KtPUBiWu4_/SuperJunior81ChoiSiwon.jpg
I am very very curious, what is holding up those pants? I have looked very very diligently ;) and I can not figure it out!
Is it the force of friction or tension? I know that some of it has to be is friction, it opposes the downward acceleration of the pants caused by gravity and the mass of the pants itself...but somehow it just doesn't seem enough! I want to know!
Are those magic, holy pants?! Considering that it is Siwon, it doesn't feel too far fetched does it? :P
(Trying to figure out how that pant is staying up is the most fun I had in physics class since the semester started!) :P
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YY
March 11, 2011 at 8:10 AM
Viola, I have a question for you. If there were a fire raging next door, and you look out your window and see Siwon in one window waving frantically at you and mouthing oh-so-sexily SAVE ME FIRST VIOLA, and SSH in the other window tilting his head equally frantically at you and roaring sexily SAVE ME FIRST VIOLA who would you save? You've only got time to pull one guy out one window onto your rope ladder. You can only save one.
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lessaofpern
March 11, 2011 at 8:16 AM
Ha! Even I know the answer to that one! SIWON!!!!!!! :D
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 8:18 AM
SIWON, just a guess.
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Lahlita
March 11, 2011 at 10:34 AM
Yeah, m'kay. First Viola would save !SIWON. Then if she any time left over, she would run back into the inferno, get some edible massage creams to use on !SIWON, and then run out, leaving SSH in to die in flames.
I'm not sayin' all she cares about it Siwon, I'm just sayin'...yeah, all she cares about is Siwon. Is all I'm sayin'. ;) Heh, that's my girl!
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 3:40 PM
YY, I am surprised that this was even a question! Let me ask you one is return: If it was the choice between saving Grandpa and SSH...who do you save? :P
By the way, I love how you guys wrote Siwon, in all caps with multiple exclamation points and the truly novel way of Lahlita!
While it doesn't capture my feeling wholly, nothing else really can, until they invent the font :
"deep and abiding love vaster than the oceans, strong as the pillars of the earth and burning with the passionate heart of a sun"! :P
But good tries none the less! :)
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clichique
March 11, 2011 at 5:45 PM
This doesn't need an answer, because the answer is clear. She'd choose Grandpa.
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YY
March 12, 2011 at 12:29 AM
clichique, my oppa has moved on to a better place. I prefer to interact with the living, thank you. Do you remember how he actually REFUSED to go and kept coming back to OT? Haven't heard from him in a while, so I guess he's with the angels now. Phew.
Don't call me Mr Hand Towel
March 12, 2011 at 12:18 AM
Viola, I am so so sad you're letting me perish in the inferno. You save Siwon whose abs are inferior to mine, and you leave me to be consumed by a cruel raging fire. I weep at your callousness. Pls someone hold my head still. I have been tilting so much and so hard since I read Viola's post that I have no strength to do anything else. I must have tilted 300,000 times since I read those heartless words. My head, my neck, my teeth hurt....but the pain is not equal to that knife struck deep in my heart. Struck, impaled and twisted. YAHHHHHH!!!! *tears off speedo and runs crying into shower*
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samgetang
March 12, 2011 at 2:28 AM
hahahahaha!
pipit
March 12, 2011 at 3:36 AM
Dear, dear Don't Call Me Mr. Hand Towel, please don't hide your perfect self and cry in the shower..
It just breaks my heart because I know from personal experience how hard it is hiding in the bathroom/toilet/shower when your heart is breaking (I swore that I'll never go to that place for any reason/a minute longer but for the obvious one) however with you being there....I'll keep you company as long as it takes to hold your perfect head in my arms/laps/where ever you want to put it.
Viola is neither callous nor heartless. She's known for her pure compassionate heart and perfect self. I love her dearly. But you should understand when it comes to Siwon...your superior abs mean nothing. I couldn't tell you here the things she did for Siwon!
And besides she knows I love you, she knows I'll save you (I've been known to have a tendency to save a divine looking man).
So, please stop those tears now. Only heaven knows how taxing that must be for you.
And we don't want you to have puffy eyes don't we?
Viola
March 12, 2011 at 11:13 AM
Dear, Mr. Don't call me Mr Hand Towel
I am so sorry to have hurt you! It pains me greatly that you think I am heartless and cruel! But it is love, and only LOVE that makes me blind to your Vast charm ( and I do mean that in all its clever implications :P ) and cruel in my blindness.
After all, "..the heart has reasons that reason can not know..." why else would I choose someone who clutches his bible to to his chest and mutters "kim suh an moo.." if I even walk within five feet of him, over your speedo less self in a shower...*gulp* *fans self*
Please, do not despair. There are so many women who is just dying to comfort you. Take Pipit for example: she is scarred from the time she had to hide in the bathroom from OKie Dokie, because of a slight misunderstanding where she might have ran away with Okie Dokie's husban Henny to a deserted island.. But that's beside the point.
My point is that Pipit absolutely traumatized by the bathroom, and she is offering to keep you company there for as long as you want! Just think of the sheer devotion!
So, forget me and find happiness with a woman who truly appreciates your eyelashes, abs and head tilt. Just think of me as some bad woman you met in an accident and * breath catches on a sob* be *hic* Happyyyyy * runs away crying* :P
MJP
March 12, 2011 at 1:48 PM
Forget that Kdrama void we are currently experiencing! We have all the drama we need here on the OT. And if we thing something is lacking, we will promptly create one.
Well done ladies and Hand Towel! And of course, what a very fine picture, SiWon!
Viola
March 12, 2011 at 3:03 PM
Also, I knew that a mere raging inferno won't stop you Mr Hand Towel! You would just use your superpower and turn yourself into a Hand Towel that would promptly smother the flames!
But, poor Siwon, he lacks your super morphing powers, so off course I have to save him! :)
How are your associates The Kidnappers by the way? Please send them my fond regards. :)
MJP
March 11, 2011 at 2:55 PM
Double sided tape. Thats what holds all the stars clothes together.
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leonardswench
March 12, 2011 at 2:22 PM
Aww, these pants! And on this body!!
Very good question, Viola. One would think you are interested in more than navel circumstances.
Seriously, the answer to your questions is both friction and tension. Those two physical properties allow for the pants to stay in place.
Unless you are sitting/standing perfectly still, the movement of muscles under the clothing not only creates friction (surface resistance to relative motion) but tension (the force by which a part is pulled when forming part of any system in equilibrium or in motion).
So the cloth moving against Siwon's thighs, groin, buttocks is friction, while his muscles moving against the fabric, the fabric moving against itself at different fulcrums, and Siwon's muscles actually being taut are all forms of tension.
This physics lessons screams for a lab class ...
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MJP
March 12, 2011 at 7:09 PM
Regarding Siwon's picture... Does anyone know if that is a real tatoo or fake? I believe it says "Carpe Diem".
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Ambie
March 12, 2011 at 8:32 PM
its fake
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24 minho
March 11, 2011 at 7:57 AM
i recently watched Iris and am so bitter about the end gosh why did Hyun jun have to die.its was worth watching:)
Praying for the affected in Japan.
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25 YY
March 11, 2011 at 8:01 AM
I wonder who would be picked to play the leads in hana kimi kor version. Any suggestions? What about the BoF girl and Lee Min Ho? Ugh. I can't believe I typed that. Bleah. SSH and KTH? Nah. They're too old. The long-haired dude from Mary and PSH from You are beautiful? Hey, wait a minute....the long-haired dude was in YAB too! With PSH! Ok ok I know....the cute chef guy from MP and Oh Hani from PK? I know! The cute girl in Coffee House and Dream High...she'd be perfect! Fresh, cute and can pass off as a pretty boy. Hm.... who to pair her with? KHJ?
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porninja
March 11, 2011 at 8:42 AM
You're probably just messing around, but now that I think about it, yeah, Eunjung (ahem Coffee House/Dream High girl) would totally be perfect for the role.
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pohonphee
March 11, 2011 at 9:00 AM
Because Hana Kimi seem all about idol, how about Eunjung and Siwon? Eunjung and Hong-ki? (uh-oh fangirling :) ) Eunjung and Park Yuchun? (No, never hear about JYJ, I just know there's a group named DBSk :P )
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djeedjes
March 11, 2011 at 9:29 AM
because SM is the one who bought the story, so I think they'll put their artists in the production.
Some from SuJu, DBSK ( sorry to say but this means only Yunho or Chang Min ), or Shinee as lead actor... My wish actually Jay of TRAX, but he's too old for this drama... so, probably Minho of Shinee? he's been talking about starting acting career.
I'd like to see Heechul as supporting actor.
As for the lead actress, they'll pick someone from SNSD or f(x), soo....hmmm, Luna? Sulli will act on other drama, so I don't think she'll be here.
SNSD girls are all too feminine as the lead role, IMO
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pumpzz
March 11, 2011 at 9:46 AM
Heechul as the third wheel! Yes! Minho might be good.... He's quite good in The Pianist with Han Ji Hye... I think?
and for the girl... I would wish it's Amber or Krystal of f(x)
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brookeeve
March 11, 2011 at 8:41 PM
Amber would be perfect!
danna
March 11, 2011 at 9:29 AM
sinc.e this SM their going to cast a bunch of THEIR idols.....i'.d love to see Heechul play Nakatsu...since he's got th boy-love perfected to a T....lol....also would be gr8 cus he Jeremy in YAB reminded me of Nakatsu aa lot....overactive imagination...lol
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danna
March 11, 2011 at 9:35 AM
I meant I think Hongki would be great
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funnylittlefishy
March 11, 2011 at 12:14 PM
I am SO. EXCITED. for this!!! I'm probably going to hugely disappointed, but how awesome is this going to be people!??
I hope they put a suju guy in it, just cos I adore them, even if it's only a cameo... I really liked the japanese casting, but Korean is my preference for dramas, so i'm hoping I'll like it EVEN MORE.
I think eunjung would be good, but she's kinda done that role already so she probs won't.
I don't care I just hope its GOOOOD!!
sorry, waaay too excited about this.
oh but heechul would be a GREAT, and I mean GREAT namba sempei....
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brookeeve
March 11, 2011 at 8:40 PM
Definitely Heechul as Namba!!!!
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anitalotti
March 11, 2011 at 1:07 PM
You do remember that you have to pick the leads from the talent pool of SM Entertainment, do you?
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26 sams
March 11, 2011 at 8:09 AM
Hello, does anyone have a good drama recommendation for something that has come out recently?
I know that's a broad question but I would just like some suggestions with maybe a blurb as to what its about and what makes it good.
Thanks to all who respond!
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djeedjes
March 11, 2011 at 8:18 AM
I'm currently like Midas.
I also enjoyed Dream High, because I love some Kpop and the idol groups. Story is good, acting is not really.
If you're into makjang, there's a good one, Flames of Ambition. I wish I can understand Korean wayyyyyyyy better so I can catch up with recent episodes. But the English subs are really worth to wait. :D
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 8:55 AM
Is this not up to date on Dramafever?
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djeedjes
March 11, 2011 at 9:32 AM
As I'm not residing in the US, I can't access dramafever.
I usually get English subs from WithS2, and never disappointed.
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sams
March 11, 2011 at 12:05 PM
Djes,
So, Midas and Dream High? Flames of Ambition?
I've been away from k-dramas for a while, so I'm not really conversant on what's out there.
How good are the ones you mentioned?
Thank you!
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legalisfun
March 11, 2011 at 1:57 PM
paradise ranch, dr champ, obgyn, liar game (its japanese but quite good), that love comes is a tdrama with Joe Cheng only 12 episodes and quite nice, our slightly risque relationship was good too.
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 2:37 PM
Does Dr. Champ have a compelling romance and good chem?
That's what draws me in.
Thanks!
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diadda
March 11, 2011 at 3:30 PM
I liked Dr champ not for the chemistry but for the characters. It drags a bit in the middle but it is good.
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 4:35 PM
Giant is calling to me and I keep turning away...
It's time, I think.
Elle-Emme
March 11, 2011 at 2:49 PM
president
midas
queen of reversals
my princess
dream high
secret garden
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27 djeedjes
March 11, 2011 at 8:11 AM
I am addicted to Korean variety shows. Well, for now I'm only following Running Man, Lets Go Dream Team, We Got Married, Happy Together, and Oh! My School.
Plan to watch 1N2D with UTW if there's English sub available.
I think some idols are meant to be in variety shows instead of becoming actors. They're dorky being themselves, and really entertaining.
My most favorite person in variety world is Yoo Jae Suk.
He's so talented in making mood and MC-ing. He always has things to say!
I really like his style, and he can bring up the atmosphere, and he always helps the cast mates to shine.
I like his jokes, and he's not rude.
I learn many things by watching variety shows.
So what's your favorite variety shows? Give me recommendations!
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cranky
March 11, 2011 at 8:28 AM
honey if you like MC Yoo, you've gotta watch Infinity Challenge. Seriously!!
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pumpzz
March 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM
I like that guy too.
I'm also addicted to korean variety shows. I watch 1N2D, Oh! My School! Happy together and Qualifications of Men. It's all from KBS World because that's the only channel who has English subs and the channel that we can access.
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Alvina
March 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM
yes! KBSW variety shows are <3
I kind of miss the game show trend of the past, however. It ended sort of around the time that Jiwaza and X-man/Loveletter era ended.
Now seems to be the trend of the "talkies".
Unfortunately, the only variety I have access to are saturated with idols; I love me the pretty but I want to see the other aspects of K-ent as well. That's kind of why I want SGB back haha!
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28 ILUKD
March 11, 2011 at 8:23 AM
hey all Kdrama addict ....Happy good Friday ... love you all
GO SOO off the market, ALEX off the market, Jung Woo Sung off the market .... Hyun Bin went to Marine ... Ohh so sad day for this Fangirl .... OPPA ...OPPA... OPPA don't break my heart ... :-( ... hehehe
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danna
March 11, 2011 at 9:13 AM
u left out Go Soo..lol
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danna
March 11, 2011 at 9:17 AM
nevermind....i must have memory issues
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29 ILUKD
March 11, 2011 at 8:24 AM
My hearts goes to all the people of Japan ... Hope you all are safe and sound ... love you ... god bless you
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30 swui
March 11, 2011 at 8:26 AM
This is really really random....but I am watching Secret Garden now....yeah I know...ONLY NOW...? And I have a habit of going thru the recaps after every epi I watch...
JB , if u r reading this there's a teensy mistake on the recap page for secret garden. Epi 14 is put as epi 13. The link is correct though. Just wondered if you'd wanna correct it.
p/s - I dunno why I'm taking this long to finish SG....I love Hyun Bin and HJW...but I really don't really like their characters all that much...can't explain it. I love and hate them. Am I making any sense...ok forget this...this topic is long outdated anyway.
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samgetang
March 11, 2011 at 8:53 AM
swui, you are not alone, hehe...i love HB and HJW, too, but could never fully connect with their characters in SG :-) i just watched it for the funny hijinks and for the sake of finishing the series.
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pohonphee
March 11, 2011 at 9:25 AM
He, he I just finished a week ago. I don't really like Ra im character, too passive or something (ehm kinda remind me of my self :D). But Joo won, Oska, and secretary Kim character just love!
Even without whoever writer behind the funny and sometime deep script, PD or director behind those beautiful scene, and music director behind the background music and ost, Hyun Bin alone with designer cloths, walking around, brooding, crying, acting crazy, anything at that fantastic abode, enough to make me stick till 20 episode, swooning. Miss Binnie....
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swui
March 11, 2011 at 9:05 PM
Haha...I'm watching for similar reasons too..I like the side characters surprisingly...Oska, Seul, Secretary....(JooWon andRa-Im's) occasionally I guess ... Well...off to finish off the series somemore....5 more to go!
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31 jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 8:29 AM
Happy Friday, Everyone!
As you all pass into Life after MP, don't forget all the good times we have had together on this thread.
You know my motto:
We all need sombody to lean on.
Peace out!
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samgetang
March 11, 2011 at 1:23 PM
The Hand Towel, looks like you are forever leaning/tilting...
Sure, we need somebody to lean on as you always remind us. LOL!
Peace to you, too!
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Emily
March 11, 2011 at 2:05 PM
Hand Towel, oh Hand Towel, has anyone ever told you you look like Seungri from Big Bang? Especially from the music video of Lollipop? (I know this song came out a long time ago, but I just started listening to k-pop).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIRW_elc-rY
Seriously, Hand Towel. I thought that you made a younger clone of yourself and stuck him in this video. And then gave him a cape and a lollipop.
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clichique
March 11, 2011 at 5:53 PM
Hand Towel-sama,
Why does your message sound like an elegy. :( Makes me miss the cuteness galore that was My Princess. :(
And please, you out-lean/tilt all of us here. There's no way we could measure up to that.
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32 porninja
March 11, 2011 at 8:39 AM
Just wanted to share that there was some fashion show where I live (Singapore) yesterday and Park Shin Hye was actually in attendance. So I thought it was pretty cool, though all I caught of her was a glimpse when she walked out the store, all gracefully.
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33 vicka
March 11, 2011 at 8:49 AM
Hi, everybody... Happy Friday...
It's my first time on the Open Thread... I just wanna say hi to all of you ( I have been reading you for the last months and you keep me company... Thanks Javabeans, Girlfriday and all the people who writes coments...)
P.S... My heart and my prayers go to the people of Japan,
Living in this world -
to what shall I compare it?
Its like a boat
rowing out at break of day,
leaving no trace behind.
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MJP
March 11, 2011 at 3:02 PM
Hello! Welcome Vicka!
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brookeeve
March 11, 2011 at 8:42 PM
Welcome!
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34 pohonphee
March 11, 2011 at 8:50 AM
Dear K drama God,
You know I'm not the one who like re-watching drama, three time is my max and it is rare. But you know, today I re-watch Coffee House again and I forget how many time I've already watched this drama. I guess I just miss watching Kang Ji-hwan acting in drama so much. Please, K drama God don't let me go too far till I have to watch my leftover Firework, Hong Gil Dong is OK, but not Firework. So K drama God help KJH resolves his contract problem soon so I can watch him acting in drama this year. Amen
Sincerely yours,
PS: All my pray for every one in Japan and all who affected by Tsunami and earthquake
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dami
March 11, 2011 at 9:40 AM
lol
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snowanh
March 11, 2011 at 9:43 AM
I think that KJH is free of lawsuit...hope to see him in drama soon.
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Jane
March 11, 2011 at 12:29 PM
LOl. I'm praying along with you. But yeah, never Fireworks.
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samgetang
March 11, 2011 at 1:18 PM
LOL! Dry spell in kdramaland....
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35 KeyaLock
March 11, 2011 at 9:11 AM
Heyyy everyone - Happy friday :)
This site is my favourite place on the net and i've finally built up the courage to post...
Firstly my prayers to those affected by the earthquake, the pictures are shocking!
And just wanted to know is anyone watching New tales of Gisaeng - is it good?
Thanks
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MJP
March 11, 2011 at 3:04 PM
A big Howdy-do KeyaLock! Welcome to the OT!!!
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Viola
March 12, 2011 at 3:09 PM
Welcome KeyaLock!! *hugs* I love delurkees! :P
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36 @.@
March 11, 2011 at 9:53 AM
HI FRIENDS!!!! Happy Friday!!!
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Viola
March 12, 2011 at 3:10 PM
Happy Friday! :)
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37 @.@
March 11, 2011 at 9:59 AM
so, i realize paradise ranch isn't exactly popular here on dramabeans, but i happen to love it. if you have seen up to episode 14 like me, what are your thoughts? i'm so happy we got a confession, and i hope they don't chicken out on it. either way, i'm guessing the drama will be good these remaining 2 episodes. they've managed to keep dramatic weight without filling it with excessive angst so far. i developed a soft spot for donjoo as the drama progressed, and the message of moving on was played out well. of course, i'm hoping for the happy ending!
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diadda
March 11, 2011 at 1:11 PM
My only big complaints are the bad editing and directing on the reshoots. I know that there are times when Changmin was not available due to schedule. and I realize that he had to do reshoots in places without the original cast, but it should not be that obvious. There have been several scenes where I know he is talking to a camera someplace else without any other actors near him.
Reposting from 1.6.
i have loved every second of it(- the editing and directing blunders). The cute has killed me. In every episode there has been cute. and the crazy possibilities of who could end up with who even though from the first episode the audience has known who the main couple was, has been great. There were at least 5 viable couple combinations in this show. It must be a record for Kdrama. Yeah there are secondaries you know will never get the girl but when you look at the writing of this thing. Everything and everyone seemed possible up until episode 14.
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legalisfun
March 11, 2011 at 2:02 PM
yep still watching and enjoying it!!!!
Donjoo is a great character...
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38 xiaoSxin
March 11, 2011 at 10:03 AM
Yesterday SUCKED BIG TIME.
First.. SBS confirmed the cancellation of their 9pm drama hout. Dammmit.. I want WHAT'S UP to finally make it on the air at least before Lim Ju Hwan enlists. Don't be cruel SBS, he's going away soon, fans need to him and I think he needs this drama too before he disappear for 2 years.
Second.. this "rumor" about LJA and JWS. Ockoala unni... I kinda know your pain. I do not even have words how to describe how this must be for you. LJA?! *shudder*
Third.. this massive earthquake hitting Japan and now tsunami warning all over the Pacific. Last night, we couldn't get hold of our relatives in Japan.. although they live far away from Sendai and TOkyo. It was frightening. Finally they were able to email us that they are OK after about 4 hours since the quake. Phew
Weekend.. what will it bring to us now?
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danna
March 11, 2011 at 7:19 PM
awwwww.....i admit its not been the greatest week to me either....hopefully things get better though it may take a while in Japan....hope u feel better!
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39 grace, the one from Jersey, USA
March 11, 2011 at 10:05 AM
The reports of the fires and floods in Japan
are so horrendous, that it's hard to believe
that it's real.....and not some fake film of toy/
miniature boats and cars.
Anybody know how much damage the actual
earthquake caused first? Was its epicenter
in a remote region) before the tsunami hit?
I hope that God hears the world-wide prayers
being said for the safety of the people caught
up in this nightmare situation....
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Jenny
March 11, 2011 at 10:10 AM
The epicenter was in the ocean around 150 km's ? from the coast of Sendai. But the quake reached Tokyo as well and was felt all the way in Hokkaido (Northern Japan)
The damage has been enormous, the waves destroyed a whole city 4 million people are without electricity
Thousands of people are still missing and around 300 have died, two trains are missing and a boat with 100 people onboard was taken by the waves.
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40 Jenny
March 11, 2011 at 10:07 AM
This day has been crazy with the earthquake in Japan and the tsumani. I haven't been able to contact my japanese friends so I'm a bit worried.
Currently addicted to New tales of Gisaeng, it's a longer drama but I like it.
I'm not looking forward to SM's planned adaptation of hanakimi, BOF was horrid so this could be x1000000 times worse.
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41 Sly
March 11, 2011 at 10:14 AM
Just want to say that Thorn Birds is killin' my love for Joo Sang Wook. Ugh...even his hotness and acting talent can't save the severe melo-ness of that show. Oh Drama Gods, please fix it with some decent writing before its too late. =(
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:D
March 11, 2011 at 10:51 AM
i can't stand that he seems to be dating that bitch
and what???!...now she's pregnant...of courseeee. Though I have to admit their kiss in episode 1 was pretty hot...
the other dude that was in Spring Waltz seems really nice and cool though. It would be nice if he gets the girl.
But the guy who has a childhood history with the girl...always yets the girl in kdramas
btw it kinda annoys me how that girl is so fricken naive.
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ck1Oz
March 11, 2011 at 6:17 PM
Waa.....ait.I haven't watched it because my heart can't take it.I am planning to come in at ep 14.
She's pregnant?????That that 2nd lead woman is preggers????
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42 Alvina
March 11, 2011 at 10:41 AM
I dont know if anyone else is living in the States, but living here now, I find myself very surprised by everything that is happening around me. The paranoia and fear about everything that is the "other" is very odd for a country that is "all accepting."
Maybe I'll just burying myself in drama-lalaland and ignore the outside world haha.
***
Japan; anyone have updates?
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Brit from Blighty
March 11, 2011 at 10:52 AM
can you define "other"?
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notoriousnoona
March 11, 2011 at 1:28 PM
Its ok to be shocked, even angry but I do have a question... Who said America is/was "all accepting?" I've lived here all my life and I've never heard such a thing. We have never been an "all accepting" country or culture. We "allow," "ignore," and "tolerate" most anything but "accept" is something totally different.
From your statement, I assume you believed somehow that America was made up of subhumans(not being sarcastic) but its not. We're just people. People who get it wrong and prejudge, make assumptions and say things that make others believe we're uneducated or untrusting.
I can't speak for all Americans, however, I am by no means paranoid or afraid by the "other" things in life, and I don't associate with anyone who is as you describe. But with that said, aren't most cultures and countries concerned and disillusioned about the "other." Are you perhaps equating caution and question with fear(just asking)?
I think its easy to pass judgment when its not your home and you are on the outside looking in.( I know I do it when I watch dramas and films.) How I combat that is to take into consideration the history and culture of that country, my cultural expericence, then tack on the one thing we share, "finite humanity." I don't get along with everyone, like everyone, or understand everyone, whether they live here, speak English, eat meat or serve Christ, like I do. I do, however, have opinions, convictions and moral standards that are deeply rooted and influenced by my cultural background, like everyone else. I am an "other" in almost every sense, therefore, I attract attention, fear and paranoia no matter the country I'm in, and America honestly is no different, but its my home. If you didn't think(know) so, I truly hate you were misinformed.
I don't say this, to imply that its right or fair but its a reality based solely on the fact that people are people, who screw up and do dumb stuff. We have pockets of stereotypic behavior and racist views in all our lives in one way or another. Its one thing I hope we can one day, all accept, then strive to improve.
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QuietLurker
March 11, 2011 at 1:49 PM
America is going through a weird time right now. I think most of your fear has to come from the news. Stop watching CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and the like...you will be much happier, believe me.
Focus on individuals. I think everyone stereotypes groups of people, but one-on-one interactions are the best anyway.
Go for a walk or to the bookstore, smile at some people and they will smile back. At least that is what happens in Texas
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jomo143
March 11, 2011 at 2:39 PM
Excellent advice!
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 2:46 PM
Buhdoop, that is a very perceptive insight. I think a lot of the "fear" and "hatred' are being generated by a very small percentage of people, but since they are the loudest, and their voice saturates the media, it creates the false perception that they speak for the entire country.
It's an unfortunate fact that our brains are not that efficient at processing information, and if we hear something often enough we come to accept it as the truth.
So, if you turn off the filter of the media, and base your opinions entirely on personal interaction, then you get a different, and on the whole a much happier picture. :)
Basically people are people everywhere, while most of them are good, there is always some unhappy soul who wants to make others as miserable as themselves.
I feel incredibly thankful for this site. I have met some of the most outstanding people here, and all of them are as different from me as it possible to get.
Take Brookeve and I for example: on the surface we are as different as it possible to get; different religion, race, background, familial situation, upbringing, country, and perhaps the biggest difference of all I was raised in NYC and she was raised in the... drumroll... midwest/ heartlands (?) ( my grasp of geography is very shaky :P) *gasp* :p
But, despite all that superficial difference, we have found so much in common that it has become a running joke between us. :)
In all seriousness, the group that we have in Facebook is my second family. Every single one of us there is as different from each other as possible, yet we all share a commonality of experience that is sometimes uncanny.
So, what I am trying to say in this loooooong post is this: Yes, there is some awful people out there but there are lovely people in the world too. And the best part is that the lovely people outnumber the awful ones! :P
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clichique
March 11, 2011 at 5:49 PM
Wait, hold up. There's a Dramabeans FB group??!
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brookeeve
March 11, 2011 at 8:44 PM
Feel free to look for me using my handle @gmail.com and I'll add you to it.
pipit
March 11, 2011 at 9:00 PM
What a wonderful thread.
There were times when I completely stopped watching the news as all that I saw were violence, hatred agains some groups and political disputes (they seriously destroyed my piece of mind).
Yes, one on one before making any generalisation.
And yes, there's a FB group for those who love Kdrama. I don't know the rules. But since I'm at the other side of the planet I'm the one who is answering your question. Other members might give a better answer when they see this.
Anyway, like what Viola said deep down inside we're all the same.
pipit
March 11, 2011 at 9:27 PM
Ahh... my reply overlapped with Brookeeve's.
I see you're still up Brookeeve ^-^
Viola
March 11, 2011 at 9:31 PM
I make an impassioned speech about peace, love and tolerance and what you notice is the FB group?! LOL! :)
Search Viola Choi (yes, Choi. You seem so surprised! :P) on fb, if you want to come and play with us. *hugs*
Viola
March 11, 2011 at 9:43 PM
Pippit, it's the psychic pigeons! They are everywhere these days! :P
brookeeve
March 11, 2011 at 10:27 PM
Pipit! Hey girl, haven't talked to you in forever and a day, it feels like. How are you doing?
pipit
March 11, 2011 at 11:56 PM
I'm fine Brookeeve. It does feel like forever. I just returned from eastern part of Indonesia yesterday. Don't ask about the internet connection when my cell hardly work. Anyway good to be back and getting in touch with you again ^-^
diadda
March 12, 2011 at 4:02 AM
The FB group is not affiliated with Dramabeans in anyway other than we met here and like Kdramas.
Don't call me Mr Hand Towel
March 12, 2011 at 5:40 AM
I'm lovely too. I am lovely inside and out. I am lovely in my speedo. I am even lovelier out of my speedo. My abs are lovely too. Unlike Siwon's, my abs are real. Siwon's are just painted on. My eyelashes are lovely. They are also longer than Siwon's. And I can tilt. Siwon can't tilt to save his life. Hah!
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Viola
March 12, 2011 at 10:56 AM
Mr. Don't call me Mr Hand Towel,
Yes, indeed you are lovely!
Lovelier by far than the pale rose
and the blood-bright sunset too.
But, my love though he be,
lash-less, ab-less and tilt free,
Is lovelier still
Than thee.
For my love is the evening wind
that twines thorough my hair,
He is the breath I take
through all the sounding hours.
:)
Rachel
March 11, 2011 at 9:25 PM
I'm American, and I do think there's something kind of disturbing going on in certain circles these days. Whether it's the Muslim "McCarthyism" or the strangely prevalent and persistent belief (even outside the Fox News/Tea Party circles) that President Obama is a Kenyan-born Muslim... I think a lot of people have a lot of fear about their personal futures and the country's future. Unemployment is high, people don't see their standard of living improving, they don't feel that their children will be better off than they are, we hear incessantly about our debt and deficit ... I think a lot of people feel that the American dream as they always understood it is ending or dead, and that does make them very anxious. And I think certain commentators/pundits/politicians/whatever are very eager to capitalize on this sense of fear and anxiety and find someone to blame for it -- anyone that is "other" (which is how we come back to demonization by the current opposition party of those who are not part of its base...)
I could go on and on, but I know this isn't a political thread :)
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brookeeve
March 11, 2011 at 8:58 PM
I'm gonna stick up for America real quick here... because its my country and its the only one that I have any claim to. I'm not European-American or African-American or Asian-American... all I've got is American-American, so I tend to be a little gung ho when it comes to my country.
I live in a military town. Down my street, I've got people of every single color, nationality, creed, religion, sexual orientation, etc. Our kids all play together, and we all sit on our front porches in the evenings and yell at each other's kids. We teach our kids to respect each other and themselves, and we don't really have an 'other' on our street at all.
I also live in the South. Whenever we have an incident, the media always finds the least educated, most toothless hick to interview and make everyone in the South look like they're mentally challenged in some way. Please see the following clips as examples: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMtZfW2z9dw or http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2jAv6y6y8M&feature=related
One thing you will find about Americans, though, is that we'll talk to anybody. Most of us will even be respectful when we're speaking to others. We're a friendly and affectionate people. Smile a little, be open to some conversation, and I'm sure you'll find that we're a friendly group of people.
Also, I LOVE VIOLA!!!! She is the bestest little sister on the planet! We really aren't the same person, we just play the same character!
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 9:45 PM
I LOVE you too, unnnie.
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Alvina
March 12, 2011 at 8:26 AM
thank you guys for all of your comments! I suppose it does ease my concerns; it was an off-hand comment about my initial hurts when I arrived, I didnt mean to offend but I see that I did. I must say that those "hurts" still persist but the transition has been easier.
I was born here but grew up outside the States and now work in the Public Health sector at the state level dealing with security. I guess you can see the kind of circles I move in, why I am surprised by "paranoia" haha.
I dont know much about the regional differences to comment but I'm sure once I step out of the office and face the outside world, it might be better. It might not. Who knows? :D
It's Rachel's post that, at this moment, I most identify with.
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Viola
March 12, 2011 at 10:35 AM
Alvina, you didn't offend me in the least. I was hurt too by some ignorant people. What I was trying to say that, yes, there are hurtful people here in America, who will dislike you for your religion/skin color/ orientation or heck which football team you support, but the vast majority of the people will accept you, and some precious few will love you. :) *hugs* I hope things get better for you. :) We are always here in OT if you need to talk more. :)
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Alvina
March 12, 2011 at 10:44 AM
haha yay! *handshake and hug*
Thank you :D
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Viola
March 12, 2011 at 12:04 PM
:)
Rachel
March 12, 2011 at 5:10 PM
If what I said resonated with you in any way, I'm glad. I guess what I mean is that -- I think -- the fear and anxiety and even anger a lot of Americans feel when they think about how they and the country are doing these days are not at all groundless, and I can understand and empathize with that. What is very unfortunate is the way some people (are encouraged by pundits and political leaders to) channel these fears into a kind of hateful paranoid xenophobia, rather than looking for practical solutions to America's real problems. Very depressing... in the end, I have to agree with Glenn Beck (although for rather different reasons): "I love my country, and I fear for it."
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mskololia
March 12, 2011 at 6:36 PM
I used to work in law enforcement on the financial end so I get what your saying without saying it. I went to another sector to work.
Peace of mind is a terrible thing to lose when life is too short. :)
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Alvina
March 13, 2011 at 2:46 PM
indeed...
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43 Brit from Blighty
March 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM
Please help! I've rubbed chili in my eye and I've never known such pain apart from childbirth! I could really swear right now. Any tips?
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Arhazivory
March 11, 2011 at 11:28 AM
Lots and lots of water.
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 11:36 AM
Contact lens solution will break down the capsaicin from the pepper! So wash your eyes out with contact lens solution. :P Hope it help.
Bleach also breaks down capsaicin...but I don't think you want bleach in your eyes.... :P
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 11:42 AM
You can use 100% aloe vera gel/juice if you have any handy. I hope you feel better soon.
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 11:48 AM
You can also try washing your eyes out with milk, it has casein that will help wash away the capsaicin. I can't think of anything else! Poor Brit from Blightly! *hugs*
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Brit from Blighty
March 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM
thanks to everyone for their tips.I only had water but that seemed to do the trick. However,now my lips and chin are burning because I lent on them whilst perusing through Dramabeans :) I curse Jamie Oliver :(
Brit from Blighty
March 11, 2011 at 1:04 PM
ooh! I'll try that! thanks :) (chin and lips now hurting over an hour after chopping chilies) *hugs* back.
ck1Oz
March 11, 2011 at 6:20 PM
If ALL else fails....go to ED and ask for amethocaine 0.5% or 1% eyedrops.
Trust me I've had people turn up at emergency complaining of pain post cutting chillis :-)
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 9:32 PM
Did any of those things help? Please let us know how you are doing. :)
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Brit from Blighty
March 12, 2011 at 12:21 AM
thanks for your concerns. The pain eventually left. So lucky to have my Dramabeans chingus with excellent advice :)
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44 :D
March 11, 2011 at 10:46 AM
HEYYYYYY
DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE I CAN WATCH "PROPOSE"...THE 1997 DRAMA GIRLFRIDAY WAS RAVING ABOUT???????????????????????????????????
OR IF ANYONE HAS ANY DOWNLOAD LINKS...IF THEY COULD SEND THEM TO ME. PLEASEEEE. THANKS!
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notoriousnoona
March 11, 2011 at 9:19 PM
I found it on AZNV. It might also be on AM-Addiction. I haven't checked there but most of the time if there are subs, its up there as well.
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:D
March 11, 2011 at 11:27 PM
THANK YOU SO MUCH! you have no idea how happy I am right now :D
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45 maureen
March 11, 2011 at 10:55 AM
Praying for those in Japan. Keep the faith.
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46 SpongeBob
March 11, 2011 at 11:58 AM
Hey, what do you all think of the athene's couple spotted in Paris?
http://www.koreaherald.com/entertainment/Detail.jsp?newsMLId=20110311000349
http://gurubootcamp.net/koreandrama/korean-drama-news/exclusive-jeong-woo-seong-and-lee-ji-ah-lovers-in-paris-captured-street-date-in-france-20110310
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47 amg01
March 11, 2011 at 12:23 PM
* Japan Earthquake*
I am completely overwhelm by this tragedy, my hearth and my prayers goes out to the Japanese people, may providence be in your side as you recover from such a horrific natural disaster.
For the family's that have lost love ones, may you find comfort, and may this tragedy will eventually turn out for the betterment of all the people of Japan.
So far 4 Nuclear Reactors have stop from working, lets hope and pray that a Nuclear catastrophic may be averted, and spare more suffering....... : O {
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Lisa
March 12, 2011 at 12:21 AM
We need to pray constantly and send our love thoughts to Japan and its people who are still suffering from strong after shocks.
Let's pray that they will soon find relief and that the shaking stops so that they may begin repairs and cleaning up.
The news have shown very little of the conditions the survivors are in. I'm sure many are suffering from the cold and exposure. They may be hungry, thirsty and tired. They may be mourning the loss of loved ones and property and need our prayers to comfort them
Let's pray also for the relief workers. They have a monumental task ahead.
Let's pray that the nuclear reactors be shut down. If a meltdown were to occur, it could also affect other countries in the vecinity (China, Korea).
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48 Lisah
March 11, 2011 at 12:29 PM
I'm in need of a mood lifter (aren't we all?) Can anyone recommend a good Korean rom com feature film? I liked My Little Bride and Seducing Mr. Perfect (in spite of the always wooden Henney).
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diadda
March 11, 2011 at 12:46 PM
He Was Cool
My Wife is Gangster
My Boyfriend is Type B
My Tutor Friend
Unstoppable Marriage - Best option!
And if you want silly laughs at potty humor. my guilty pleasure is 'Attack On the Pin Up Boys' I can't stop laughing at this thing that features a much younger Super Junior.
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anitalotti
March 11, 2011 at 1:26 PM
The Art of Seduction - was a lot like "Mr. Perfect"
Too Beautiful too lie - choked from laughing so hard
Highway Star - not really a rom-com, but quite funny
... and if it doesn't have to be a Korean rom-com, a personal favourite of mine is "Secret" with Jay Chou.
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Lisah
March 11, 2011 at 2:41 PM
I liked both Seduction and Too Beautiful, is Jay Chou the guy from Green Hornet?
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anitalotti
March 12, 2011 at 5:46 AM
Yes, he is!
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 9:37 PM
Thanks to yours and others recommendation I am watching Too Beautiful to Lie. It's awesome! Thanks! :)
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QuietLurker
March 11, 2011 at 1:52 PM
My sassy girlfriend or My sassy girl? Not sure on the exact name, but everyone says that one is good. I haven't seen it yet though.
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danna
March 11, 2011 at 7:26 PM
Antique Bakery
Too Beautiful to lie
Speed scandal actually make that ever film Cha Tae Hyun's in :p
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 9:36 PM
Thank you for your recommendations Danna. I am watching Too Beautiful to Lie and I am loving it! :P
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Lisa
March 11, 2011 at 11:59 PM
"S-Diary", starring Kim Sun Ha (City Hall, MNIKSS),Gong Yoo, Kim Suro.
She's On Duty, with Kim Sun Ha
"Mr. Hong" aka Mr Handy
"Liar" with Joo Jin Mo and Kong Hyeog Jin
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pumpzz
March 12, 2011 at 12:58 AM
100 days with Mr. arrogant
Crazy First Love
He was cool
She's on Duty
Love So Divine
My Tutor Friend
She's on Duty
there's so manyyy! haha
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49 x0mi07
March 11, 2011 at 1:53 PM
I woke up today as the Japan news was breaking. I watched live as that solid wall of water smash into Sendai. It was a horrible way to start the day. I was glued to my TV for the greater part of the day. *sigh*
There is also a minority protest here in Saudi Arabia (I wrote "minority" cuz Shiite Muslims are a minority here). It's nothing big really.... I hope it won't continue. We're all under an unofficial curfew and the govt used cloud seeding to stop further protests. I think it's kinda smart. It's raining heaps here.
It's been a slow but crazy week altogether though. I'm thankful for Big Bang's comeback stages and the acapella version release of their EP. KBS Music Bank is pissing me off seriously but I'm still thankful Big Bang is doing well.
Happy Friday everyone!^^
@brookeeve unni, did you see GD & TOP on the shows Night After Night & KJE Chocolate?=P
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ria151
March 12, 2011 at 11:31 PM
heyy!! u live in saudi arabia too? COMRADE! lol,
n yes, the japan thing is majorly depressing. pluss the may 11 thing. i dont get it, wasnt everyone happy? we expats have less rights than the shiites, but we're not complainin'. well, im not. so r u korean originally??? im like THE ONLY one in my friends circle who loves asian dramas, i get the looks but I DONT CARE!! :D
who else is dying for more kim soo hyun? just started watching will it snow for christmas, n im already bummed out from the fact that he'l only be in the first 2 eps. and i started watchin fathers house, N I COULD WATCH THE SECOND EP!!! n kim soo hyun is only in the second episode!!!! i could only find it on viikii, n the shtupids uploaded the wrong video in the second episode. *sigh* couldnt find download links for it either, help, anyone?
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50 MJP
March 11, 2011 at 1:59 PM
Okay, Jung Woo-Sung fangirlys, what is up with this? Is it too difficult for actors/actress' to just act in the dramas and NOT fall for each other? Another instance of life imitating art or just friends?
http://www.hancinema.net/exclusive-jeong-woo-seong-and-lee-ji-ah-lovers-in-paris---captured-street-date-in-france-28434.html
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Viola
March 11, 2011 at 9:39 PM
Note to self: Get a drama role playing opposite a certain K idol! :P
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MsRetta
March 11, 2011 at 10:55 PM
I agree! and I have a list!
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John
March 11, 2011 at 10:48 PM
You gotta figure that on Dramas the actors and actresses spend so much with each other, developing fake relationships and connections, that sometimes something just sparks between the actor and actress.
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