Dramabeans Podcast #6
by | May 7, 2011 | 110 Comments

Podcast #6 is here!

In which javabeans and girlfriday discuss:

  • My Name Is Kim Sam-soon
  • Soulmate (18:05)
  • What’s Up Fox (23:25)
  • Goong and Goong S (35:09)

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Songs Used in Podcast (In order of use)

“Be My Love” by Clazziquai from the My Name Is Kim Sam-soon OST
“She Is” by Clazziquai from the My Name Is Kim Sam-soon OST
“Bonbon au Chocolat I” from the My Name Is Kim Sam-soon OST
“Where I Belong” by Sia from Soulmate
“What’s Up Fox?” from the What’s Up Fox? OST
“ꢁ” (Palace) from the Goong OST
“Crystal Flower” from the Goong OST
“Falling in Love Again” by Bobby Kim from the What’s Up Fox? OST


110 Comments from the Beanut Gallery
  1. mskololia

    Wow, so early in the morning….I’ve only seen the first drama discussed on the podcast. I like the Coffee House intro OST btw.

  2. GirlU.k

    I love Goong, it’s one of my all time favourites despite the flaws! Btw is that a picture of Moon Chae Won?

  3. jyyjc

    Sam soon is one of my favourite dramas ever.

  4. ricky the royal highness

    sam soon is sooo likeable! She reminds me of my own mother (except my mother cant bake)

    • 4.1 Ellie

      Wouldn’t it be nice to have a mom that could bake. Of course the weight gain would be a downside.

  5. ricky the royal highness

    Did I mention that I luuurvvee hearing both of your voices?

    And is it crazy to say that I may or may not have constructed both of your faces in my mind?

    I’m not a stalker, I swear
    *shifty eyes*

  6. anon

    funny, i was just thinking last night that a podcast about now would be great πŸ™‚

  7. czak

    I have loved all the dramas discussed except for GOong S. It was too slow phased for me…
    samsoon love love love their chemistry…
    Goong had me rooting for the 2nd male lead from start til end. But still loved shin!
    what’s up fox was just so adorably funny.
    Especially loved SOULMATE

    • 7.1 czak

      of course SamSoon has a special place in my heart…
      Love love Samsoon…

      so agree with Goong S, I watched all 20 episodes just hoping that it might get better but damn, it was just horrible…
      I would want it again only if someone pays me a million dollars…!!!

  8. marina

    aw, I get sentimental just thinking about these dramas(except Goong2 of course). Thanx java and gfriend for another enjoyable podcast!

  9. strawberryfieldsforever

    aaah…goong!one of my favorites πŸ˜€

  10. 10 blue1004

    The last episode of Baker King hit 50.8%, higher than Samsoon, whose highest rated episode was 50.5%. (This is based on TNms ratings, so it might be different for AGB.)

    • 10.1 blue1004

      Hehe, now that I’m done listening to it in entirety, I really enjoyed this podcast!

      I have to agree with you ladies on 1.5. OMG, I was so embarrassed for my people watching that drama that I couldn’t continue on. Shin Hyun Joon’s character in that drama was not a 1.5er, but actually a Korean adoptee and he was learning Korean from Shim Eun Ha. Why do I remember all this? Banish the memories!

      I agree about Soulmate’s ending. I watched that drama pretty recently after hearing many people complain about the ending. But when I watched it, I thought it was a perfectly appropriate ending for the story so I couldn’t understand people’s complaints.

      OMG, I had to pause the podcast because I was too busy laughing at Bingoong Mama. I totally forgot about that, but I appreciate the reminder. The joke’s still funny now. But I like the Korean bbang bbang jokes too.

      Thanks for the laughs!

  11. 11 C

    OMG! I felt the same about Kim Sun Ah’s cutsy thing! I know Koreans have the ae gwo thing, but that was overkill! And I loved hearing excellent English spoken between 2 characters. I don’t remember any other drama where I’ve seen two fluent speakers…

  12. 12 Lorlena

    It would be a good idea/bet to give one another a drama you think is bad but have not seen it… that way you may end up with a funny punishment (if its bad)…or a nice drama that slip true the cracks (if its ok). But this month- who will have the time for one more….

  13. 13 IbeenJGS

    currently re-watching KSS, supeeer love she is !

  14. 14 janna

    Woo, new podcast! I just wish they came out on a Monday so I could wedge it in between NPR stuff while working. Yeah..nerd…

    • 14.1 ricky the royal highness

      I wish they would do one daily so I could listen to them every time I have breakfast.

      Ok bad idea. I would probably spew food all over my family as a consequent of laughing too much.

      • 14.1.1 janna

        Yes. That would be awesome.

        “This is All Chaebols Considered with javabeans and girlfriday. Support to Dramabeans comes from the following… hot guys.”

        • Dux


  15. 15 Paula

    This was a great podcast, thanks! I’ve seen Kim Sam Soon, though its been a few years now, and listening to this makes me want to see it again! I loved Soulmate as well, it was an excellent drama! I had started watching What’s Up Fox? but for some reason, never finished it, but maybe I should give it another go. I was totally on the Goong bandwagon πŸ™‚ but I never bothered with Goong S because I didn’t hear good things about it. I really liked what you said about the KDrama heroine, especially with how Kim Sam Soon kind of broke the mold as far as that had been established so far. I haven’t seen a lot of older dramas, but I’ve been watching some now, just to see what they were like. Right now I am watching Wedding with Jang Nara, but its kind of boring πŸ™ I have to say that this is the first time I really like none of the characters, and after seeing Jang Nara in Successful Story and My Love Patzzi, this character is just sooooo different for her, its disappointing. I like her when she does spunky and hot-tempered, not this apologetic crybaby sap she is in Wedding. OK, I digressed enough πŸ™‚

    • 15.1 bjharm

      I would give wedding a few more episodes, though it is one that people either rave about or hate, there are changes to the characters, though Sena always stays rather immature, in cute way as only Jang Nara can carry off.

      • 15.1.1 Paula

        OK, I will try keeping that in mind, I do like Jang Nara, and I like the second male lead, I’ve seen him in Attic Cat, Dal Ja’s Spring and Oh! My Lady! and he always does his character well. I am over half way through, so I will complete it, if only to see how things resolve themselves πŸ™‚

        • bjharm

          the second male lead did a mini drama two 20 minute parts with Jang Nara called PEN , should be around on youtube with eng sub, or was.

  16. 16 olive

    For some reason the podcast cuts off at 20 minutes for me! I wanted to hear the rest of it…

  17. 17 Ley

    First time I’m listening to your podcast, I just couldn’t resist Sam Soon and Goong. <3

  18. 18 diadda

    And the commentary continues! Thanks ladies for your insights on some of my fav dramas.

    (“What’s Up Fox” being my favorite thing of all time.)


  19. 19 Eleven11

    Oh yay! i’m going to listen to this in the morning, seeing as its like 3am… can’t wait! I love KSS, Soulmate and Whats Up Fox, so excited to hear some other thoughts on them =)

  20. 20 Kim

    gosh now i’m gonna have to go look for and download the whole Kim sam soon OST. lol… i want more She is..

  21. 21 samsooki

    The drama MNIKSS was my beginning, and I was astonished at how much heart the drama revealed and how honest a portrayal Samsoon brought to the table. Social commentary, wit, heart, drama, yearning, loss, hope, conflict, just… Everything.

    I wanted to share the drama with others but I had but one dvd set. My only solution was to purchase another dvd set so that I would never be without MNIKSS.


    There may be better dramas out there, but the first and the most special is still samsoon.

    • 21.1 mud

      Say WHAATT? samsooki’s back??? For good??? Or am I just imagining…

      • 21.1.1 samsooki

        Apparently I’ve underestimated this raising a family thing… seems to swallow all time not spent working or sleeping. All of my k-drama watching is now just done by memory…and this drama (and a few others) keep me going. =)

        There is this song on the MNIKSS OST, called “Inside My Heart” by Kim Jung Eun. It’s one of two MNIKSS OST songs on my infinite playlist – it just about perfectly captures my mood sometimes and I how feel about missing the things that I’ve cherished but had to leave behind.

        Who knew that this would be the last love of mine…

        I miss my k-drama watching days

        • So3

          OMG, Samsooki!! I hope you’re reading this – my big “Thank You!!” for the great recaps of CH!!!!!!! I was late in reading it so kinda regret not being able to say my appreciation to you.

        • hookedonmonix

          Don’t worry, children get older and can feed, toilet and entertain themselves, and husbands get used to being ignored. There’ll be time. πŸ™‚

    • 21.2 maria

      hi, samsooki!!! we miss you round these parts!!!!!! i know youhave real-life stuff you’re dealing with, but just letting you know– you are missed! πŸ™‚ πŸ™‚

  22. 22 maltreti

    Soulmate is one of my all time favourit dramas. The story was soooo good. I loved all the pairings and characters and the soundtrack is my favourite one.

    Goong was for me very painful to watch. I didn’t like the main characters at all.
    Actually I especially didn’t like the two main actors. They were both just selfish and I kind of remember them as wimps.

    Anyway. Thank you for this podcast. It was very funny and interesting to listen to both of you. Have a nice weekend! ^^

  23. 23 Leslie

    finally some acknowledgement for What’s up Fox. Its the drama that got me so into Chun Jung-myung!! I know how dramabeans love Chun Jung-myung!

  24. 24 UJ

    i listened to your whole podcast while playing entanglement πŸ˜€
    out of the 5 dramas that you have mentioned i have seen 3…
    i know you guys and hundreds of others love kim sam soon but i never really got into it…i have seen the whole drama but for me sam soon was a bit too obnoxious and loud…i m not saying i like the whole princess type of leads but she was just too loud! put i did enjoy parts of it..
    As for goong its not my favorite yoon eun hye drama (that spot is only reserved for coffee prince) but i did like it…i have seen it twice but at the second time i basically forwarded all the royal politics and skipped to the yoon eun hye and taeja joenha’s part…oh my friends dont agree with me but i did feel a bit sorry for the second lead hyo rin…lets admit it taeja was as ass!
    as for goong s it was a mess! i was naive enough to watch the whole series (i was young and foolish back thn)…i actually mistook it for goong! stupid me i know!

    i really enjoyed your podcast…and like one of your previous podcast it has made me wanna watch a new drama “soulmate”…i will forever be thankful to you guys for convincing me to watch sungkyunkwan scandal by how much you guys were gushing about it…i had discarded it previously but i really want to say THANKYOU!! was it not for you guys i would have missed a gem!

    i would like to make a request…please make a podcast on your favorite dramas…top 5 of both javabeans and girlfriday…that would be awsm!

    stay happy! πŸ˜€
    lots and lots and lots of love from Pakistan

  25. 25 Christina

    Yay! Another podcast~ =D

  26. 26 singingzombies

    I have seen 4 of the 5 dramas and…

    Totally loved Kim Sam Soon. I love the sassy assertive female leads way more than the passive ones which is why I was more forgiving of Suzy’s character in Dream High early on when she was all bitch and had very little empathy because constantly I was saying (well at least she’s not a carpet and won’t get walked all over)

    I was also really really bummed about Goong S. I also watched all the episodes. The thought of rewatching it sends shivers down my spine. I think every episode as it was airing was more of a “plz plz get better…. there’s potentially good stuff here” along with maybe 5 min an episode of a sign of something that could have been but never got there.

    Dramas with the definitely male leads don’t come as often as ones with the definitely female leads (at least the ones I watch) and it just really really sucked it dropped the ball in the execution department pretty much the whole way.

    Especially the Goong universe is so fun, because they have the Avatar’s Pandora effect where half the fun is just seeing the world portrayed so believably the whole time.

    Awesome podcast. Honestly the first one I’ve listened to but totally gonna go back in time and get the first 5.

  27. 27 singingzombies

    Oh also. Soulmate was amazing. Once in 5 years kind of drama for sure (maybe longer… definitely rare quality in all aspects of it.)

  28. 28 Deeliteful

    I’m so FOR the bet!!! make someone watch a bad drama!! (after May and June of course ;))

  29. 29 kiotzo

    Soulmate is one of my all time favorites, i’m still hoping/praying for a second season, and the soundtrack was AMAZING!

  30. 30 ...

    I just want to ask, do you girls ever, uh, rest? πŸ˜€

    • 30.1 misstery28

      yeah. you girls amaze me~

      • 30.1.1 junaly

        i know, i am constantly impressed and amazed by bloggers who give their all to the things or people they love. javabeans and girlfriday are among the most dedicated web authors i’ve seen.

  31. 31 cinderella

    LOL! Jackass Chuck Bass! Love the fact that girlfriday somehow incorporated Chuck Bass into the conversation…

  32. 32 MSA

    Gee, girls, you cured me from my pseudo-hangover! Thanks! XD

    A bit more seriously now, I enjoyed listening to all your thoughts, and made me want to re-watch Sam Soon and What’s up fox <3 I'm from Latinamerica, and actually, there's a TV channel over here that's broadcasting Sam Soon, and I'll be watching it tonight~

    Just wanted to say, though, that the angst in Goong wasn't all that bad – It's not one of my favourite dramas for sure, but I do like the manhwa (I bulk-read it every few months, hahaha) and I was expecting *more* angst, as the manhwa is actually more serious and sadder than the drama version; for example, in the manhwa the girl's grandpa dies, and *she's not allowed to go and see him*, due to the Palace's rules. The thing is, much of the princess' suffering comes from the strenuous life style she is forced upon – I always kind of compare it to Diana's life. It made her loving the prince also that much more difficult and heart-breaking, because she quite literally loved *and* hated him at more than one point, and he went to great lenghts to try and extinguish her love towards him because he wanted her to be free from the Palace.

    So… at the end, Goong was boring instead of angsty, sometimes πŸ˜› Still, it's beautiful to look at and I don't regret watching it.

  33. 33 cinderella

    LOL! Jackass Chuck Bass! Love the fact that girlfriday added Chuck Bass into the conversation…

    • 33.1 faan

      Haha came here to comment on that too. Gossip Girl <3

  34. 34 Neimat Ilyas

    Is it weird that i haven’t watched Sam Soon yet? I tried twice…..never got past the embarrassing Hotel scene in the 1st episode. πŸ˜›

    Spare me!

  35. 35 mihinikki

    Did anyone else want Shin and Chae Kyung to be together? I did…Shin slowly changed over the course of the show. I thought Yul was just sad.

  36. 36 Nhu

    Awwwwww…. you didn’t talk about Brilliant Legacy. You only mentioned it a bit, and I actually really want to hear your thoughts on it… but I completely agree with what you said about Sam Soon & Soulmate. Two great dramas!

  37. 37 Hanna

    I’m always going to have a soft spot for Goong, mainly because it was the first Korean drama I ever saw. I think I actually rooted for Shin in it, despite the fact that Yul was a MUCH better person until he went wack-o in the end and burned that room down.. talk about a lobotomy. So out of character. But because it was the first I saw, I think I was a lot more forgiving than I am now (and I was only 16, so I think my view of the world was a lot more idealized back then).

    I wish I had the time to go back and watch the old ones, but I seriously don’t. Perhaps in the summer.. but seriously, who sits in and watches dramas all day during summer holidays?

    Ah well, thanks so much for this podcast πŸ˜€ I like!

  38. 38 bluelime

    love the podcast!! thanks, it made my day!! =)

  39. 39 phoenixash

    Am I the only one who was sad that they said they would talk about Full House later and then it never happened? It’s one of my old favorites, so I was a little disappointed.

    • 39.1 aznboy

      I love the podcasts, but I was also hoping to hear about Full House too.

    • 39.2 aznboy

      It might be on part 2.

  40. 40 Qd

    This podcast makes me want to watch MNIKSS again! I watched it with my mum and we both loved it but Ive forgotten alot about it so I will definitely be revisiting. I have to agree I didnt get the hyun bin love even today with secret garden being such a hit. On the other hand, I love Kim Sun Ah! She is by far my top 3 Korean actresses. I love her!

    Soulmate and What’s up fox sounds really interesting, together with Coffee House will be in my ‘To watch’ list ! I find your taste in dramas spot on.

    As Goong, I heard so many good things about it but after the first 2 episodes, I didnt quite like it. I dont hate it or think it sucks, just didnt appeal to me. I can relate to JB as I didnt care for Shin, didnt think he is good looking and his character just wasnt worthy of her. I also preferred the 2nd lead until they wrote him out the last few episode which was just blahhhhh…. I didnt bother watching Goong S. To be honest , its in my pile of ‘garage sale items’. Maybe the the expectations was too high.. maybe because I just finished Coffee Prince which I simply adore that’s why it just fell flat for me.

    I always appreciate your podcast. I cant wait for the 2nd postcast! Thanks JB & GF for all your hardwork!

  41. 41 missyu.shi

    YES A PODCAST!! I have been waiting for this one. I actually loved Goong and Goong S, even though a lot of people didn’t like Goong S as much, but for me I loved both equally. They’re both dramas I would watch over and over.

  42. 42 supah

    Great, entertaining podcast as always, girls!

    Only seen Soulmate from that cluster and the ending? Is IMO, one of the best endings, ever! Loved it.
    They did an alternate ending which felt kinda flat, I will always love that ending… There was something so breathtakingly atmospheric and romantic about the bright, twinkling night lights of Tokyo.

  43. 43 Rickshot

    suggestions for next podcast:
    the slew of new exciting dramas!!! i’m still waiting for a baby faced beauty recap! or thoughts on “can you hear me”! and between lie to me, romance town, city hunter, and ripley, there’s definitely no shortage of dramas to gab about!

  44. 44 funnylittlefishy

    aahh! new podcast?? *does happy dance around currently disaster stricken dorm room* I’ve been waiting for this since i discovered the last 5… and listened to them all straight. I immediately regretted it of course, because then i had no more to listen to until now. BUT YAYY!!! my weekend just got happier πŸ˜€ (now if only subs for best love would come out…)

  45. 45 Jules

    I seriously rewatched Kim Sam-Soon like 6 times, all the way through, and hearing the songs again made me want to watch it again πŸ™‚

  46. 46 danna

    Thank you girls!!!…it’s always gr8 to hear your thoughts and my DB podcast radar has been going of for a few days now…lol…..and by the way Petty Romance is a riot albeit kinda cheesy..you gotta love Choi Kang Hee sex antics…also although I’ve always loved The Vocie, I’ve never thought of him as this hot before

  47. 47 Jules

    You know when I was listening to the part about second leads, I realized that one drama that had me rooting for the second lead was Lee Jun Ki ‘s character, Jung Woo, in My Girl. I can’t remember any other dramas…

  48. 48 Sarah (theknitter)

    Sam Soon: What I really loved is the fact that she kissed him first. And not a “whoops I was drunk out of my mind/tripped” she chose to kiss him first. That is so rare. And it sort of sums up the character of Sam Soon, brave, fearless and sometimes a bit “act-before you think”.

    What’s Up Fox: Her being a virgin actually bothered me too, I’m glad I’m not the only one. It just seems so contrived and really irrelevant. Sometimes I feel like dramas focus soooo much on whether or not something is “the first” (anything; receiving flowers, kiss, going somewhere etc.) more so than what it actually means for the couple involved.

    • 48.1 bjharm

      will Fox is a pretty old drama, where i guess the koreans still prefer to see K-drama land through rose tinted glasses..that means ‘good’ girls are virgin before they get married..even if they are in thier 30’s! And of course there is the comdey side of it considering what her writing for the magazine was normally about.

  49. 49 Ahjumma

    MLKSS is my all time favorite and I became a fan of Clazziquai because of it. I thought the drama was extremely witting. I loved that Sam Soon never let herself fall apart (zombie stares and s l o w walking) when things didn’t go her way. She knew how to pick herself up and carry on. No crying buckets of tears for her! One of my favorite parts was when she was conversing with Daniel Henney at the hotel in Jeju. Too funny! I will always have a soft spot for this drama.

    • 49.1 Ayumi

      That was one of my favorite parts as well πŸ˜‰

  50. 50 lessaofpern

    Spring Music and now a Podcast!!! Thanks for a wonderful Mother’s Day present πŸ˜€ Yup, I have seen all these dramas πŸ˜€

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