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I’m done! HOLY CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How am I supposed to function after watching that?! You reallllly like your melo…but…soooo good….my heart is all busted….
Raine…I TOLD YOU! I was WRECKED. Absolutely non-functioning. One of Tori’s friends is kind of interested in the stories but not willing to devote the time to watching, and when I tried to tell her the story OVER A WEEK after I watched it…I couldn’t talk about the end. Every time I tried my voice broke.
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Unni – He seriously turned away from her? What would’ve happened had he not? I heard some people said that they didn’t die, but the whole thing they talked about dying. THE WHOLE DRAMA. There was soooo much crying. I’m still blowing my nose and my cat is staring at me like I’m looney.
What the hell is it with them turning each other away so many times? IT WAS SO UNNECESSARY. She was super hot/cold and I didn’t understand why she did things half the time but I got his reasoning.
That uncle is incorrigible.
I did like that letter Bori wrote her father. It’s so real and raw. This is the same writer (Lee Kyung-hee) that wrote ALtK. You seem to go after her work…or maybe Rain seems to and you follow his dying (perfect) ass all over the place!
EEEK I’m all weepy AGAIN!
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Oh, they’re definitely dead. What you see of them after the road scene is either heaven, or everyone’s imagination for them, or another lifetime. But they die on that road, 100 percent.
At first, I thought he turned away because remember what he told her when she visited him in prison – there’s just no way for them to be together after the life he’s had and the things he’s done and she should go on, and not wait for him, and not worry about him, because he was glad to have done what he did for them all.
But later, thinking about it – remember when MinSuk was leaving and set it up for SangDoo to be with her? And he said – but I’m warning you, if I come back and she’s alone, I won’t let her go again. Well…I think when SangDoo saw them together, he thought that they must *be* together, because he did leave her alone, after all. And he couldnt see that, he would have to turn away.
Goddamn it Im crying.
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That’s true. I’m pretty sure they woulda worked it out had she made it to the other side of the street. Eun Hwan had bonded with Bori, and Sera and the crazy uncle.
Story wise, I felt like the truck was ‘thrown’ in there. They could’ve lived or died and the story would’ve held up. They’d been through enough to finally work it out.
But I feel like the truck was just for MORE impact. I would’ve preferred less. It was just one more thing against them in this life.
I don’t think he turned away because of Min suk. He knew that he was in the US. I think more because he’d wanted her to move on and be happy.
I think that last scene was Bori’s dream she was talking about!
DAMMIT, they, of all people, deserved their happy ending!
Man. am I glad I didn’t watch this, lol. I love Rain, and I toyed with watching it when you guys mentioned you were, but I wouldn’t be able to function, lol.
Shel – I’m still having random fits of tears. But Rain was…amazing
OMG Shel…this…this was just beyond words. I have never in my life in any language or any time period watching something that killed me so bad. I first read Wuthering Heights at about the age of 11. I think I saw the movie when I was 12 or 13. Probably the most emotional time of my life, early teen? Doesn’t even TOUCH this. I raved about how emotional ALtK made me? Doesn’t touch this.
I did laugh at Raine for saying ‘the truck was for MORE impact’ – my first thought was ‘as opposed to what, a sedan?’
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I think they earned it too, Raine. But Sang Doo is the personification of a ‘romantic hero’ in the the classic, literary sense of the word – selfless, noble, doomed.
Had they lived, we would have suffered through all that with him and then been given the ‘dessert’ of a happy ending. A good movie, but not a very deep movie.
The original ending had him dying but not her. THAT WOULD HAVE MADE ME VERY ANGRY. Just too much sadness, and too cruel. The actors argued for both to die, and the writer eventually agreed.
They got their happy ending…but we pay for it. I’m ok with that. It elevates the entire thing to something more than the standard, and forces you to think about what you believe comes next, and what is the purpose of the life we lead HERE.
It’s like City of Angels: he gave up being an angel to be with her, and then she died. So he was forced to face what was important to him, and in the end he thought that being alive was worth it. Beauty. If she hadn’t died it would have been so much cheaper of an ending. He gave up his wings and earned true love. Wah. Ok, sweet story, but one of a million just like it. He gave up his wings and lost the girl anyway, but still lives on and finds the beauty in it? Much better story.
I was with Sang Doo every step of that journey. I bled for him. And every step of that journey, even through his tears and pain, he was determined to take yet another step, because he was doing it for someone he loved. Every time he thought he could have Eun Sung, and then got hit with an obstacle, he just gritted his teeth, said ok, and got on with doing what he had to do anyway. He didn’t curl up in a ball and give up. He kept going, no matter the cost, because he knew it was important. Even at the very last moment of his life, he was focused on protecting those he loved. To himself, he didn’t matter. They did.
If he had met up with her on that sidewalk and all had been ok and they lived happily every after one big family, I would have enjoyed the emotional journey and thought ok, that was good. Sometimes you get shit on but if you keep trying you get cake. Well ok, but I already know that. And it cheapens your struggle if you know you’re going to get cake if you just stick with it.
The point is that he stuck with it even though he knew he wouldn’t get cake. That’s what elevates this. I mean, you can argue that they’re in heaven eating cake. Maybe they are – maybe that’s just Bori’s hope for them. I don’t know and I don’t think it much matters, although I’m happy if they are. What made this such a gut wrencher for me was that he knew what he was doing every step of the way, and he did it anyway, out of a love that would not allow him to live any other way.
And JoAnne is melo queen. That is the moral of this thread! I applaud that analysis Unni!
I get why he turned away now. I’m cool with that. (Before k-drama, I avoided melo like the Plague. WTF is it about k-drama?)
Just because we’re not the only ones thinking about this particular ending:
thundiesprattle.com/2011/11/15/finis-origine-pendet/
Have you seen that?
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I definitely got what you explained from Sang-doo, but I didn’t connect with Eun-hwan in that way. She seemed selfish to me and I ended up ignoring her to focus on Sang-doo the character (not Rain as Sang-doo! *gasp*)
I think I may have liked him dying and not her too. *ducks* (if she had died an not him…I would’ve strangled Lee Kyung-hee….no more hurting uri Sang-doo! NO MORE!)
After everything, he still got run over by a truck, but he wouldn’t change how he lived his life. She, however, would’ve changed a lot of things. Maybe that’s why they match (besides the she reads him well and he suffers through her crazy temper)? Or maybe that’s why she confused the crap out of me.
In any case, her death or avoidance of death wouldn’t really change things for me. If he had lived and she hadn’t or if they had both lived, that would be HUGE.
She was reactionary, he was a pillar.
I just thought of another thing. Even if he had lived, maybe he wouldn’t go back to Eun-hwan. Life does necessarily mean no more obstacles.
And about him not getting cake. I think he had his cake, or that he didn’t really need it. Truly. His life was tough and sad, but the things he lived for did give him pleasure. His daughter and even the painful moments with Eun-hwan. He is the type to want those rather than nothing at all. In death, he would be at peace. He said that he didnt think about being unhappy, but worried that she would think he was unhappy. He’s the epitome of “Happiness is wanting what you get.”
Eun-hwan…I’m not sure if she’d be at peace. She could read Sang-doo’s emotions so well I think her reflective quality was what helped him push through things. He didn’t need to worry about himself, she did. She ALWAYS had. That was her major contribution to that love.
And about the ending, my little take is that its Bori’s dream. I need SOME kind of bow, Unni. I NEED IT!
No, I think you’ve hit the nail on the head – he wouldn’t have changed a thing. Happiness ISN’T getting what you want. It’s wanting what you have.
I did not like her as much as I liked him, but I thought it was because I couldn’t get past the screechy. I’m watching her now in Greatest Love and she’s adorable, and even I want to hug her when she makes the sad puppy face though, so its the character in Sang Doo that was screechy, not the actor.
Sang Doo I would follow to the ends of the earth.
Speaking of Greatest Love: omgoodness, YKS
She was good in Biscuit Teacher and Star Candy with Gong Yoo, too. I liked it a lot.
I really LOVE Gong Hyo-jin. Check her in Pasta too!
She WAS rather screechy. But it was the melo of the drama because Hong Soo-hyun was pretty screechy too. And the mom. All the women were screechy except for Bori.
Unni, I’m still aching for Sang-doo. I woke up thinking about it this morning.
I KNEW you would like YKS. He reminds me of YIA a little. I LOVE Greatest Love. I want to watch it again…
Me too, Raine, me too. I think I’m going to buy it. Just so I can pet the case…I don’t think I can watch it again.
Just owning something is enough. Its presence gives comfort, the pictures provide fodder for fantasy…especially if said pictures have men in levi’s…
I dunno if anyone is still around, but I’m looking at Que Sera Sera, (cuz I like Eric) and wondering how it is. I don’t usually like too much melo…it depends, I guess, on if it’s a good, somewhat believable or if it’s just ridiculously, unrealistically melodramatic…..
Anyway…wondering what the concensus is before I start it…
Shel I think at this point only you me and Raine are left…I haven’t seen it but it’s on my list.
If I ever get back to real life, the ones I’m watching that are airing will keep me busy. But this sitting around thing is driving me nuts. My honey bought me a new sewing machine last night (mine was a 25 year old Viking that was stuck in reverse, lol) so I may start on some Christmas gift projects, which will reduce my drama-watching time somewhat.
I haven’t seen it, but I hear its fantastic, but very melo. Maybe pick a comedy to interchange it with!
OK, I’m up to ep 8, and I wanna slap Eric’s character for always saying stuff he doesn’t really mean. Dork. Why are men such dorks????
I’m pretty sure I’ve got the storyline figured out, it’s somewhat predictable so far, but we’ll see if I’m right. I’m sure he’ll figure it out eventually.
I have no idea of the plot, even…I added it to my list because I saw it mentioned everywhere and Bummie fans liked it.
ARe we still talking about Que Sera? And Bummie as in Kim Bum? If he’s in this, he’s hiding well. ;0)
I thought we were, I’m probably confused.
He’s not in this one, but Eric is really good in it. I’m up to ep 10, though and I’m starting to feel like it’s too drawn out. I got impatient and skipped to the end of the last ep to make sure I wasn’t going to be throwing things, lol.
I probably need to take a break from it and watch my Flower Boys.
Okay, since we are the only active ones on this page, we’ll see how far this goes but its time for some shameless self-promotion! w00t!
I’ve tried my hand at humor on my blog and I would love some feedback! It’s about my cat…cause he’s my baby. And he forced me to write it…no seriously.
http://raine0211.wordpress.com/2011/11/14/my-silly-silly-cat/
I responded there – good job!
Also, I answered your questions on page 1 of the commments here.
Go see, but basically: TOP, drool. Levi’s, unbuttoning.
I did too. We are involuntary cat people (the cats adopted us and live outside) and we are forever amused by them. My favorite and if I can find the pic I took, I’ll post it where you can see it….is that all of them curl up together in this not-very-big terra cotta pot to sleep at night. Big tangle of arms legs, tails, ears and whiskers.
I love how cats can do that. Speaking of, my cat is being adorable again! It’s amazing how he knows EXACTLY how to make me crack up.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/69160453@N05/6350881732/in/photostream/
HOW CUTE!!!!!!!!!! Its Timmy’s wifey and childrens!
Yeah, I thought he looked an awful lot like our kitties.
Seriously, where have all the OTers gone?
Fine, we’ll start a new convo as research for a post I’m working on. Besides, we can look at hot men, so its FUN!
SO, if you had to put Park Shi-hoo in a bromance, with whom would it be?
I’m feeling Yoo Ah-in or Yoon Kye-sang.
So far I’ve only seen one Bromance I can call a Bromance in Queen of Reversals with his assistant/secretary. In TPM I suppose we can pair him with Jung or his hyung or even…Shin Myun…maybe…er…
I’m wishing I’d seen more of his work before I started on this, but its an adventure now!
YOu know…..I don’t think I”ve seen Park Shi Hoo in anything yet (haven’t seen TPM) so I’ll have to do some research. :0)
Me neither, no clue who he is.
If you haven’t seen him yet, do yourself a favor and go looking for him. You will be happy you did.
He has a lovely shower of angst in Family’s Honor. Which also is a good drama.
PSH is also terrific in The Princess’ Man. The whole drama is awesome.
Give him a little time to grow on you, and odds are that you will be gaga over him like the rest of us.
But I adore Yoo Ah In. What a cutie he is. :0)
Me too. I’m rocking SKKS right now and lovin’ him more than I did in Antique, where he was my fav!
SKKS was my fave Ah In character. I love him with the long hair and his big sword. And his crush on PYM.
I’ve been watching QSS and I think KJH and Eric would be a good bromance. In a fusion sageuk: Eric was Chilwoo and KJH was HGD. They should be fighting the bad guys together.
Haha, that would be awesome! I loved KJH as HGD and I’ve seen photos and clips of Eric as Chilwoo.
Ok…Ep 14 of Greatest Love, and I’m FINALLY actually totally into Dokko Jin. And did I shed a tear when poor tiny stick figure Ae Jung broke down and cried at the press conference? Hell yes I did. And did I whisper-shout an enthusiastic but quiet “YES” when DJ whispers to the passed-out AJ ‘I love you’ and she drunkenly parrots it back? Again, hell yes I did.
Do I still feel bad for my poor little Pil Joo-ssi? HYID(o)…but I’m…uh…on deck with Dokko at this point.
Pil Joo-ssi can just come over here and let me stroke his hair for a while. That will make me – I mean him – feel better.
I felt bad for him, too. He’s such a cutie. And I think it took me at least eight or nine eps to get behind DJ. He was just too weird at first. Except that he was cool to the kid and “ding dong” cracked me up.
Yes, his way into my heart began with Ding Dong
The first time he called the kid Ding Dong made me giggle. I was like, there is a guy I like. I see a man good with kids and I melt.
Me too. Kids LOVE Mr Shel, he has all these little fans at church. He says he peaked at 6 yrs, so he can relate to them all. :0) Good thing he likes kids, between us we have a huge family.
A man that is good with children and vegetables is hard to resist.