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	<title>Comments on: The Moon That Embraces the Sun: Episode 13</title>
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		<title>By: ro</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/02/the-moon-that-embraces-the-sun-episode-13/comment-page-2/#comment-621353</link>
		<dc:creator>ro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Mar 2012 09:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[i dont know and i&#039;ve nothing much to say but i seriously love how they casted the young/child actors and adult actors :) not only their looks have rather striking resemblances, their acting skills are no joke as well... :D 
i am loving this drama even if im only reading the recaps!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i dont know and i&#8217;ve nothing much to say but i seriously love how they casted the young/child actors and adult actors <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  not only their looks have rather striking resemblances, their acting skills are no joke as well&#8230; <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
i am loving this drama even if im only reading the recaps!!!</p>
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		<title>By: cherisse</title>
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		<dc:creator>cherisse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 19:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, this DAMN brother of his is getting on my last nerves. He is constantly talking about what he did and did not have. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. If anything he have more than the King has. This episode is a prime example of why the King can not have an heir why it is so horrible to be married to that big teeth wench.  He is the King and his father in law had more power over him. The brother just thinks he knows everything. That he &quot;suffering&quot;. I swear it is getting to the point i want to slap the hell out of him to make him come to his senses. 

“You who grasps so easily in your hand everything I’ve tried to have, everyone I’ve ever wanted… If you won’t grant me this one request…” Seriously Yang-myung, serously. What makes you think he has everything. HE DON&#039;T. His life and Wol&#039;s parents life went straight to hell after what happened. He can do whatever he wants but yet he rather hold on to the pass and think that his life is bad. Well i got news for you its not asshole.  The King doesn&#039;t not have a free will. The King does not get to live his life the way his wants to. The king does not get to choose who he wants to spend the rest of his life with, the king does not have people who is surrounded by him everyday that he can trust or support, the king can&#039;t follow his own orders, the king doesn&#039;t get the chance to run away or go on trips like you, the king does not have the opportunity to see whomever he pleases, i can go on for days hell years. I mean YM has everything in the world he has a great ass life yet ONLY HE doesn&#039;t see it. 

And don&#039;t get me started on that ugly ass sister of his. She did the same thing that everybody else did in that palace. She knew what was going on and what happen but kept quiet for what because she wanted to marry her brother!?! Everybody keep saying that &quot;she is a comic relief&quot; well she is not! She&#039;s a back stabbing conniving cunt and is the same as her fugly ass grandmother and big teeth sister in law and rat face father in law.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, this DAMN brother of his is getting on my last nerves. He is constantly talking about what he did and did not have. ARE YOU KIDDING ME. If anything he have more than the King has. This episode is a prime example of why the King can not have an heir why it is so horrible to be married to that big teeth wench.  He is the King and his father in law had more power over him. The brother just thinks he knows everything. That he &#8220;suffering&#8221;. I swear it is getting to the point i want to slap the hell out of him to make him come to his senses. </p>
<p>“You who grasps so easily in your hand everything I’ve tried to have, everyone I’ve ever wanted… If you won’t grant me this one request…” Seriously Yang-myung, serously. What makes you think he has everything. HE DON&#8217;T. His life and Wol&#8217;s parents life went straight to hell after what happened. He can do whatever he wants but yet he rather hold on to the pass and think that his life is bad. Well i got news for you its not asshole.  The King doesn&#8217;t not have a free will. The King does not get to live his life the way his wants to. The king does not get to choose who he wants to spend the rest of his life with, the king does not have people who is surrounded by him everyday that he can trust or support, the king can&#8217;t follow his own orders, the king doesn&#8217;t get the chance to run away or go on trips like you, the king does not have the opportunity to see whomever he pleases, i can go on for days hell years. I mean YM has everything in the world he has a great ass life yet ONLY HE doesn&#8217;t see it. </p>
<p>And don&#8217;t get me started on that ugly ass sister of his. She did the same thing that everybody else did in that palace. She knew what was going on and what happen but kept quiet for what because she wanted to marry her brother!?! Everybody keep saying that &#8220;she is a comic relief&#8221; well she is not! She&#8217;s a back stabbing conniving cunt and is the same as her fugly ass grandmother and big teeth sister in law and rat face father in law.</p>
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		<title>By: asdf</title>
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		<dc:creator>asdf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t wait for the next few episodes! Things are going to get interesting :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t wait for the next few episodes! Things are going to get interesting <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Selina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Selina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Feb 2012 23:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The king doesn&#039;t want to consummate the marriage with the queen because he&#039;s afraid if he does, she&#039;ll carry the heir and the evil guys will just kill him off. If the queen gives birth to an heir, then the queen&#039;s father obviously gets power through a regency with the death of the king. That&#039;s why he&#039;s been putting it off for so long. He says in a previous episode to Woon that the evil guys still have need for him, which is to produce the next generation and not create a huge power struggle with his death.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The king doesn&#8217;t want to consummate the marriage with the queen because he&#8217;s afraid if he does, she&#8217;ll carry the heir and the evil guys will just kill him off. If the queen gives birth to an heir, then the queen&#8217;s father obviously gets power through a regency with the death of the king. That&#8217;s why he&#8217;s been putting it off for so long. He says in a previous episode to Woon that the evil guys still have need for him, which is to produce the next generation and not create a huge power struggle with his death.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Feb 2012 14:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[GF,

I don&#039;t know what I&#039;d do without the recaps. You&#039;re a life saver.


Rant_

 Viki&#039;s subbers , (for some unknown reason } decided to skimp/skip  on the  subbing  on the Hwon /Yang-myung  scene where they&#039;re discussing  Wol.
 I mean, really, you sub 98% of the episode and you  skip/skimp that particular scene?  WTF? Really? Thanks.

/rant 

Yeah, Wol finally wakes up and hows a little spark.  Why the king is so wishy washy is beyond me. I&#039;d have  killed  Minister Yoon  long ago.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GF,</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what I&#8217;d do without the recaps. You&#8217;re a life saver.</p>
<p>Rant_</p>
<p> Viki&#8217;s subbers , (for some unknown reason } decided to skimp/skip  on the  subbing  on the Hwon /Yang-myung  scene where they&#8217;re discussing  Wol.<br />
 I mean, really, you sub 98% of the episode and you  skip/skimp that particular scene?  WTF? Really? Thanks.</p>
<p>/rant </p>
<p>Yeah, Wol finally wakes up and hows a little spark.  Why the king is so wishy washy is beyond me. I&#8217;d have  killed  Minister Yoon  long ago.</p>
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		<title>By: Lilian</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/02/the-moon-that-embraces-the-sun-episode-13/comment-page-2/#comment-613128</link>
		<dc:creator>Lilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 19:57:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm...i wished they could have fallen in love with her for who she is now, not becoz she resembled the old YeonWoo!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm&#8230;i wished they could have fallen in love with her for who she is now, not becoz she resembled the old YeonWoo!</p>
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		<title>By: bbangie83</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/02/the-moon-that-embraces-the-sun-episode-13/comment-page-1/#comment-612880</link>
		<dc:creator>bbangie83</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 17:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[it&#039;s the bro i reckon :p]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it&#8217;s the bro i reckon :p</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Yoonmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Yoonmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:27:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*Queen Dowager--sorry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*Queen Dowager&#8211;sorry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Yoonmi</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/02/the-moon-that-embraces-the-sun-episode-13/comment-page-2/#comment-612738</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim Yoonmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:25:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[———–
And why are those shamans using their power only for the benefit of the queen mother?
Why aren&#039;t they using it from the beginning for the king and the previous queen at that time?
———-

From the late Three Kingdom&#039;s period Muism has been primarily for women by women. (Cowardly) men abandoned Muism for the new Buddhism. This was in part because Confucianism and the switch to more of an agricultural lifestyle made a religion primarily female-based look uncool to men, thus when it lost its power, the religion was primarily run by women.

(The mountain spirits, for example, were all women... the sun was a male and the moon was a female. But the majority of the spirits before Buddhism seem to be female-based.)

Men like prestige in most societies, so being the cowards they are, they ran from the religion once the persecution started and there was nothing in it for them.

These days Muism is dying and it is hard for the female Shamans (Mudang, not Munyeo--like in the drama) to survive because of the pressures of Christianity (which likes to call anything outside of itself the work of the devil.) and also from the government. Paksu are male shaman, however, most of them in today&#039;s society are outcasts, such as homosexual, transvestite, etc. There probably were more back in the day, but I have a gut feeling women basically still ran the show.

Unfortunately, I don&#039;t think the real Muism is represented in this drama. Rather it borrows from Muism, such as making it female-centric. I would have expected more colorful offerings, an altar and some fast dancing--plus channeling of Gods and Goddesses (especially in the Northern style) I thought that would have been far more interesting to watch. I was a bit disappointed when the drama chose to go with the &quot;safe&quot; route to make muism look more tame and Shinto-ish. (Shinto is Japan. Praying to fire is more of a Japanese thing.) Oh well, maybe they&#039;ll make a proper drama on the mudang someday, but for know we&#039;re stuck with the Munyeo-wannabe-shintos.

Anyway, what I assume they are saying is that this Shamanism is dying (&#039;cause it ain&#039;t muism--if it&#039;s supposed to be the author did less research than I did--and I do mean the author.) and the only thing stopping it is the Queen Mother&#039;s belief in it--because anything female-centric in a Confucian state would have been demonized, but with the most powerful person in the country backing it, no one would dare to cross it. The Queen Mother might have even helped to revive it from the ashes from the way she acts...

I would have preferred to see more true Muism though... been much more fun and more Koreanish. You should look up Kkut on You Tube to see why I&#039;m complaining. The style around Seoul is really cool.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>———–<br />
And why are those shamans using their power only for the benefit of the queen mother?<br />
Why aren&#8217;t they using it from the beginning for the king and the previous queen at that time?<br />
———-</p>
<p>From the late Three Kingdom&#8217;s period Muism has been primarily for women by women. (Cowardly) men abandoned Muism for the new Buddhism. This was in part because Confucianism and the switch to more of an agricultural lifestyle made a religion primarily female-based look uncool to men, thus when it lost its power, the religion was primarily run by women.</p>
<p>(The mountain spirits, for example, were all women&#8230; the sun was a male and the moon was a female. But the majority of the spirits before Buddhism seem to be female-based.)</p>
<p>Men like prestige in most societies, so being the cowards they are, they ran from the religion once the persecution started and there was nothing in it for them.</p>
<p>These days Muism is dying and it is hard for the female Shamans (Mudang, not Munyeo&#8211;like in the drama) to survive because of the pressures of Christianity (which likes to call anything outside of itself the work of the devil.) and also from the government. Paksu are male shaman, however, most of them in today&#8217;s society are outcasts, such as homosexual, transvestite, etc. There probably were more back in the day, but I have a gut feeling women basically still ran the show.</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I don&#8217;t think the real Muism is represented in this drama. Rather it borrows from Muism, such as making it female-centric. I would have expected more colorful offerings, an altar and some fast dancing&#8211;plus channeling of Gods and Goddesses (especially in the Northern style) I thought that would have been far more interesting to watch. I was a bit disappointed when the drama chose to go with the &#8220;safe&#8221; route to make muism look more tame and Shinto-ish. (Shinto is Japan. Praying to fire is more of a Japanese thing.) Oh well, maybe they&#8217;ll make a proper drama on the mudang someday, but for know we&#8217;re stuck with the Munyeo-wannabe-shintos.</p>
<p>Anyway, what I assume they are saying is that this Shamanism is dying (&#8217;cause it ain&#8217;t muism&#8211;if it&#8217;s supposed to be the author did less research than I did&#8211;and I do mean the author.) and the only thing stopping it is the Queen Mother&#8217;s belief in it&#8211;because anything female-centric in a Confucian state would have been demonized, but with the most powerful person in the country backing it, no one would dare to cross it. The Queen Mother might have even helped to revive it from the ashes from the way she acts&#8230;</p>
<p>I would have preferred to see more true Muism though&#8230; been much more fun and more Koreanish. You should look up Kkut on You Tube to see why I&#8217;m complaining. The style around Seoul is really cool.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Yoonmi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Yoonmi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Feb 2012 15:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[He never liked his wife in the first place. I think he resents her on some level and blames her for what happened...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He never liked his wife in the first place. I think he resents her on some level and blames her for what happened&#8230;</p>
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