Dramabeans Podcast #12, Part 1
by | July 1, 2012 | 179 Comments


Podcast #12, Part 1

Running time: 58:53

In which we:

  • Catch up on which new shows have premiered in the new year;
  • discuss Rooftop Prince (3:05);
  • Queen In-hyun’s Man and its ending (10:50);
  • The King 2 Hearts with a tangent on Sohn Ji-chang and the origins of girlfriday’s Seung-gi love (19:39);
  • Jang Dong-gun’s popularity and A Gentleman’s Dignity (38:45);
  • and the craziness that is Dr. Jin (47:35).

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Stay tuned for the soon-to-come Part 2 to this podcast, where we talk I Do I Do, Big, and Gaksital (among other things)!

Songs Used in Podcast (In order of use)

Seo Taiji – “Live Wire”
Rooftop Prince OST – “Happy Ending” by Park Jaebum
Queen In-hyun’s Man OST – “같은 하늘 다른 시간에” (Same Sky, Different Time) by Joohee
Queen In-hyun’s Man OST – unknown background track
The Blue – “친구를 위해” (For a friend)
King 2 Hearts OST – “미치게 보고싶은” (Miss you like crazy) by Taeyeon
Dr. Jin OST – “살아도 꿈인 것처럼” (Like a dream) by Jaejoong
Peppertones – “High Romance”


179 Comments from the Beanut Gallery
  1. Dorotka

    Oh, I’m a lucky girl!!! Thank you so much!
    I just listened to your old podcasts yesterday and wished for a new one! I got my wish! And it is even better than a tuna sandwich! 🙂

    • 1.1 Dorotka

      …just want to say that for downloading one has to erase “” in the address…

      • 1.1.1 Dorotka

        OK, it didn’t show, so just erase the command for break…

        • diorama

          How did you download it? For me I’m just getting the sign in page…

          • Dorotka

            It works fine now. I hope you managed. Enjoy!

          • kent

            Thanks guys!! it was really fun podcast. I have not really listen to the podcast before this but today when I was driving for long hours, I ended up listening to all of the podcast you guys have done so far.
            The most interesting thing was listening to the old drama podcast and you guys made me watch soulmate all over again. Today I realized how much I love that drama or sit com. It was heart touching and funny at the same time.

            Thank you

    • 1.2 wanderlust

      Yes but again, it was the CELLPHONE because we established that she already tried calling the moment he got warped back, but it didn’t work. It was his DEATH, the final thing he’d been unwilling to give up as a consequence for messing with time that allowed her to remember and that broke the wall that was separating them which enabled her to call. IF he didn’t accept death, the one thing he’d been running away from wholeheartedly, then the earlier situation of his phone number not existing would have happened again.

      So again, DEATH people, not the cellphone. Sigh. Give up.

      • 1.2.1 alexandrasi

        Agree wanderlust….and no essay was required. ^^

      • 1.2.2 wanderlust

        *WASN’T the cellphone. wasn’t.

      • 1.2.3 wanderlust

        Actually I’m really surprised at you girls for QIM because you’re usually so good at seeing the actual deapth and underlying themes and plots.

        I thought you would’ve remembered that the phone didn’t work when he warped back when Yoon wol died “This number does not exist” and would’ve realised that it only started thundering and raining when he was committing suicide signifying the rules of the talisman and universe being fulfilled i.e accepting consequences of time, not having selfish desires etc, which in turn triggered heejins memory that allowed the phone.

        But unfortunately you got stuck at the cellphone like everyone bit because it was so jarring.

        I also don’t believe that if you have to write an essay for it then it doesn’t make sense because gf and jb you guys are the masters of making arguments through essays and picking out the nuances. And arguments have to be made when people only see the surface and fail to realise what the story intended. For example: global warming is happening but we can’t visibly see it or feel it so there are still millions of deniers which prompt essays about why it IS happening. Just because they write essays and justify that global warming is happen, does that mean it’s not right?

        And forgive the essays for QIM but they’re not arguments persay, but simply an answer which in turn links up with everything else because the drama IS cause and effect and it kinda snowbbals because you realise that theres SO much evidence and prior clues and symbols throughout the story and want to be thourough so as to cover everything people have been criticising it for. But oh well, to each their own but its a shame.

      • 1.2.4 jat

        ohhh….so it wasn’t the cellphone but the death. now it makes sense. I like ur explanation. I was having a confusing time understanding what caused him to comeback to her. I thought it was the phone and I just could not accept it. but again, if many people saw it that way, maybe it was not us fail to see what we were supposed to see but the drama itself confused us to the max level. coz he did got back by answering phone and do u remember their conversation? hee jin : how did you come here? BD : because of YOU. u CALLED me.

        • wanderlust

          Yes but it was boong dos death that caused her to remember. His death was the cause, her remembering him because of their love is the effect. Her remembering him was the effect and the PHONECALL was the effect. Without his death she would still be unable to remember him and that was something else that was needed to bring him back- her memory of him which was proves by her rememberinghis phone number just like he remembered her phone number back in ep 5. You will also remember that he asked the monk in ep 12 “if at least one person were to remember me, wouldn’t that life be different?”

          So her world was still the same, he couldn’t exist in it UNTIL she remembered him which happened cuz of his death. Then her world was able to change by letting him come back.

      • 1.2.5 Rachel

        Thanks for your comprehensive write up in the comments about the non-role of the handphone and the role of death! Really appreciate it 🙂

      • 1.2.6 Pearl~ai88

        But……he didn’t die, that was the whole point of the cellphone ringing and saving him……….confused 🙁

        I always thought that it was her love that called him back through the cellphone in the exact same way that it was Yoon wol’s love/earnest desire that made the talisman work.

    • 1.3 Dorotka

      I’m one of those who had never heard of Jang Dong Gun before GD. I had a talk recently with my Korean friend about watching K-drama’s and how I ‘am bad at remembering the names. And she was like well, my husband and me now watch GD… and I was, yes, I’m watching as well, but see I don’t know the actors’ names. And she was sooo shocked 🙂 This is the Brad Pitt of Korea! And you know, he married Ko So Young, the most popular actress in Korea… and I was just there completely clueless…

      As for the drama self, I love the openings. They are really funny and they don’t shy away from embarrassing situations. The rest of the drama, however…
      I think it is not that it is not so dramatic like KTH, I don’t mind watching something calm and entertaining… it is really more missing the connection with the characters and lack of substance. I don’t feel anything for the couples and their problems. With the exception of Yoon and Me Ahri. And yet it could have been much better, as they do give us glimpses of possible depth – like the bed scene of Min Sook and Jung Rok… or Yoon’s widowhood… I want to know more, but there is nothing given. Just fillers.
      All F44 scenes are hilarious though…

      Anyway, thanks again for the podcast and looking forward to part 2!

      • 1.3.1 Dorotka

        OMG, I just realized that Yoon from GD is Hyun from Feelings! I’m really terrible with names…

        • ahjummabunny

          KIM MIN JONG! He’s such a sweet heart don’t forget him again.

          • Dorotka

            Oh, I’m hopeless with names, regardless of the country of origin… but perhaps the French “mignon” will help ^^

      • 1.3.2 Stella Castle

        I knew Jang Dong Gun From “A Warrior’s Way.” My son is in to martial arts movies and he recommended that one to me because the star was Korean. I fell in love with him then, and I’m NOT really a big martial arts movie fan. He was lovely to watch. I knew nothing about him before that.

        I love GD, not just because of Jang Dong Gun, but also, I kind of like character driven stories. That’s what GD is and why it doesn’t really have any plot line. Doing a plot for 4 major leads would require more air time, I think. I too wish they would delve more into the back stories, though. We’re only half way through the series, so hopefully we will know more before long.

  2. Sabah

    You just made my day! Thank you!

    • 2.1 Sabah


      Girlfriday’s epiphany is cute! Really cute!

  3. Charly

    Yeah thank you so much, Ladies! Gonna listen to it right now! 😀 🙂

  4. blokkoms

    Woot! Thanks jb and gf!

  5. Ivoire

    Thank you!

  6. oftheshore

    Thank you!
    Eagerly awaiting Pt.2:)

    • 6.1 oftheshore

      Your discussion of Dr Jin just killed me. I’m working alone in the office tonight, and I nearly fell off the chair laughing – hope I didn’t scare the security guys!:)
      Why did you have to mention the prosecutor from City Hunter – and Lee Min-Hot! – I might have to rewatch CH now. God, I miss CH – one of the few dramas that made me stay up late and wait for the recaps/watch raws/read Soompi religiously, as if my life depended on it.
      Can’t wait for…GAKSITAAAAAAAAL!!!


    puhuhu. you guys are hilarious XD

  8. TheJu

    What a lovely surprise when I checked the site!

  9. Noelle

    Yay! and a drunk one to boot. Lucky day it is.

    • 9.1 Noelle

      GF: I need to get a second bottle of soju for Dr. Jin


  10. 10 Lizzie

    Thank you ladies, I enjoyed that very much. Learned something new as well… Beware of Torture-Tacos! ;D

  11. 11 reglest

    Hiaa..Podcast! Yaiy!!
    *off to heard*

  12. 12 Susan

    I love your podcasts, thank you!

  13. 13 VanillaLee

    That was really funny, I had a really good laugh. XD

    I agree with what you guys said about JDG. He is one of those rare men that is both pretty and manly. I’ve never seen any of his dramas/movies prior to AGD but now I am a big fan of his. 🙂

    Can’t wait for the next part.

  14. 14 amberscube

    Yes! Podcast… just what i need.

  15. 15 Aftershowshow

    Thanks for the podcast!

    My friend and I also started our own podcast about Big, if anyone wants to check it out. We are kind of the opposite of Dramabeans because we are both guys and are not Korean.

    We currently have two episodes released, covering Ep. 1 – 4 of Big.

    Episode 1: http://aftershowshow.com/releases/2012/6/21/the-after-show-show-korea-ep-01-big-ep1-2.html

    Episode 2:

  16. 16 Confused

    *I REALLY am curious, but who’s the girl in the picture? (With the fuzzy yellow sweater)

    Is that dramabeans or girlfriday?

    • 16.1 Jules

      She looks like UEE to me. *tilts head*

    • 16.2 Ohwamm

      neither lol.

    • 16.3 shin

      Son Eun Seo, methinks!

    • 16.4 danny

      and I was asking the same question. JB and GF are gifted with writing skills as well as voice. Hope to see your souls shells someday.

    • 16.5 jane

      lol you mean, “javabeans or girlfriday” right? but well it’s not javabeans or girlfriday, it’s Son Eun Seo I think.. she was in Love Rain.

  17. 17 Mawiie

    Thank you very much!!!

    It’s too bad TK2H didn’t do it for javabeans 🙁 I remember what you girls said in the 3rd podcast about how when you like something and wants everybody to like it too and I think that’s why I’m a bit sad about it haha

    • 17.1 Missy_K

      I’m sad too that JB doesnt like TK2H and Lee Seung Gi *crushed* 🙁

      • 17.1.1 wanne

        I actually wished Gummimochi could join this podcast so we could hear more spazzing on TK2H ^^. I read her twitter before and she seems to enjoy the drama and her twitter background is also Seunggi, so a Seunggi fan too maybe? but I shouldn’t be greedy heee.

        Thanks JB and GF, I had a great time listening to this podcast. The origin of Girlfriday’s Seunggi love cracked me up so much. I always want to know, I don’t know if GF has mentioned it before or not, but since when actually GF started to like Seunggi? Is it through Gumiho? Its funny that Sohn Ji Chang matches Seunggi so well even to being a ballad singer lol.

        I love JDG in All About Eve. I actually loved that drama just because of him. But I never imagined he is that popular in Korea because I hardly see him and before AGD, the last drama I watched of him was All About Eve too which was years ago.

        AGD is pretty boring plot-wise because so little happens. But the writer is really good at her dialogues and romantic scenes. Add JDG into it, I’m pretty much addicted to it right now but I don’t know how long it will last because I often fastforward scenes.

        Looking forward to the next podcast. I’m enjoying IDID from that bunch.

  18. 18 mtoh

    Thanks ladies, it was fun!

  19. 19 gingeranna

    I love you gals! Thanks for the podcast, I really needed something after a bad day! 😀
    I wish I could drink with you hahaha!!!

  20. 20 ~Feather~

    okay, to answer your question on what a teenager would think when first seeing Jang Dong-gun (I am 17) : I honestly think he is really handsome! And his charm just adds to it. I have to agree that he does have a combination feminine and masculine beauty. :3 I don’t think I can represent teenagers everywhere because I, myself, am a weirdo. (Aren’t all teenagers, though?) I guess I could be considered a paradox since I can have some traditional preferences but I also embrace the modernization of the world and society. OK, now I feel like I’m babbling. I’m not sure if my opinion is relevant–I was told that I used to have a crush on a singer when I was 3 or 4 years old. I used to tell my uncle “I think he’s beautiful!” XD

    • 20.1 ~Feather~

      and AGD was the first time I saw Jang Dong-gun

    • 20.2 2101

      I’m 17 too and I think he’s my new ajusshi crush. OMG is it weird? XD

      • 20.2.1 ~Feather~

        not at all, I’ve had many ajusshi crushes…though I’m not sure i’m the best person to console you for this. I tend to have a thing for older guys in dramas.

  21. 21 ck1Oz

    Oh thank you I was just wistfully wishing that I could get a new podcast this weekend.Then take da it appears.Thank you 🙂

  22. 22 Julia

    So everyone else is registered at that site? I´d love to download the podcast but I´m also rather sceptical of registering at a site like that..

    • 22.1 Celexa

      I’m registered and I never hesitate to download the podcasts…. I have them on my phone!

      PS: I’ve never gotten any spam from DB

  23. 23 KrazyK

    Thank you for posting a podcast. I love the recaps but there is just something about listening to your crazyness.

  24. 24 Vanessa

    Haha I love listening to your podcasts!(: It’s always refreshing to hear you talk more about your opinions about dramas I watch myself. Thanks! <3

  25. 25 jomo

    “He’s the best looking normal guy you have ever seen in your life.”
    Had to stop the file to LOL….Loved that!


    Javabeans says:
    RoofTop Prince in Two
    “Less episodes of sucking”
    Soooo funny

    PS I still loved the ending of QIHM. I loved loved loved it.

    • 25.1 jomo

      The whole Dr. Jin segment was hilarious.

      The PD of Dr. Jin
      “He has negative talent… He is taking away talent away from the writing and acting…
      He is actually sucking talent away from SSH if that is possible…”

      SSH is the baby of Megan Fox and Keanu Reaves.
      He doesn’t have talent, but he tries.

      I have to disagree though; THT is terrible. I cringe…

      • 25.1.1 mtoh

        It came like Terminator for Jin..hehe
        But he’ll be back baby… 😉

      • 25.1.2 coolrepublica

        what’s THT?

        • jomo

          The Hand Towel which is a VERY VERY LOVING nickname for SSH’s.

          Mostly because he Korean name if mispronounced sounds like “hand towel” and because his acting is as exciting as one.

          It’s a very loving nickname.

          • Cynthia


            ..and there I was, thinking that our Mr. Handtowel had something to do with a shower scene. Hmmm, silly me…

          • jomo

            Cynthia –
            I wish it was only a hand towel – that would have shown us a lot more happy things.

            Though we did get to see him in the cursed speedo, too.

          • JoAnne

            Well when WE say it, it’s loving. Somebody give Baby Eyelashes a break, please….it’s like a plant. If all the energy goes into flowers, nothing goes into growing bigger/better. Can we just agree that Pretty Pretty Manly Man’s energy is focused outwardly? And it doesn’t seem like it’s his choice, really…’cause Boo DOES try awfully hard. I kinda respect him for that.

  26. 26 Chillyperson

    Thanks for the podcast! That unknown background track in Queen Inhyun’s Man is called 내 남자, 김붕도. The full ost was released two days ago.

  27. 27 skinnymocha

    Thank you~!

    “Queen In-hyun’s Man OST – unknown background track”

    Argh. My favourite track, but whoever compiled the OST should be #@%U&% for skipping this. Does anyone have a clean version – no dialogue or whatnot?

  28. 28 violetish

    hehe i love gentleman’s dignity and………. am enjoying it like a slice-of-life: i love the characters and the world she’s created and am satisfied enough to see them live their lives… plot-less.

    • 28.1 JoAnne

      Hear, HEAR! I don’t really need a huge plot. We’ve got some stories that are moving forward – 4 romances in various stages, plus then there’s the two boys, and really – Colin is part of a romance (and possibly two) and Hong Dwyub or whatever they’re calling my cutie Mad Mireu this time around, he’s got his little one-sided love, too. I’m content just watching stuff kinda happen, as long as I can get the dialogue I’ve been getting. And the little moments that really resonate so perfectly because of that dialogue. It’s enough for me. It’s more than enough, because it’s so well done.

  29. 29 lola

    I am in love in Jang dong gun and all my friends love him… I am 19 and my friends are like 22 and he is popular in my circles… I don’t get that people dont like him.. that is just wrong.. he is awesome!!

  30. 30 Quinze

    Your epiphany was hilarious!

    Skipping over to AGD. I think I like the show because it has no plot. When I’m busy with school, I just like watching shows that don’t take my mind off of my work after the hour’up so for me this drama is perfect. It’s hilarious when it needs to be and cute when I need it to be. It doesn’t have a lot of forward momentum but they give me enough scenes with the leads that it keeps me happy enough regardless.
    I’m alright with dramas like Bridal Mask that suck you in but I need to not fail out of med school so I’ll take my shallow fun and just follow your awesome recaps for Bridal Mask until I get some free time to myself (Which is like never!)

    It might also be a taste difference because I loved the bits of Secret Garden that I did watch.

    Also, I honestly DID NOT understand the craze over Seung-gi until K2H. I was so baffled over the love Brilliant Legacy gets (I still don’t understand that one) and I didn’t understand the fan craze over this boy. He totally won me over in K2H though!

    • 30.1 delicatecloud

      On Lee Seung Gi – I agree that I don’t understand either the fan craze over Brilliant Legacy as the drama did not resonate with me at all. But I did get LSG in K2H and although i am not totally into him yet i will certainly pay attention when his name comes up in the next drama.

      • 30.1.1 JoAnne

        That drama was ok for me, I enjoyed it well enough – but it wasn’t anything particularly sparkling, and I thought he looked like a squirrel-cheeked kid. But watching him in K2H, I thought – well, never mind what I thought. I liked that King.

      • 30.1.2 Quinze

        Exactly. I watched him in BL was like “meh” why was this drama popular again??
        I def saw the appeal in K2H! Maybe it was the hair? Or just the character being more lively and fun? Dunno haha. But yea maybe his next project will convince me to fangirl over him!

    • 30.2 addylovesbwood

      I absolutely adore Seung Gee. He won me over with Brilliant Legacy then i watched my girlfriend is a gumiho just because of him. King 2 hearts sealed the deal and made him my favorite actor. sorry LMinHo(he’s my first KD-love). i do understand that liking the lead actors influences your interest level in a drama but you have to be honest with yourself. K2H was a good drama and LSG/HJW delivered!

      • 30.2.1 Quinze

        Haha yea if I’m not a fan of the leads, it really isn’t going to happen for me. But no I def agree that LSG/HJW were great in K2H. I didn’t watch the whole drama because of time constraints but what I did watch I really enjoyed.

    • 30.3 boms

      I totally agree! it’s like every day life. Nothing is too complicated. As if your friend is catching you up on their day and their love life after a long day of work 🙂

      As for LSG, yeah same here as well. I didn’t really see him as a man until K2H either haha there was something about him in this drama that demanded for my attention and persuaded me to give it to him hahahh Brilliant legacy was alright.. I think it’s cause I’m not that big of a fan of HHJ, but nevertheless he’s golden now hahahh

      • 30.3.1 Quinze

        Exactly! You can laugh and enjoy the antics, squee over the cute and adorable and then turn it off and get back to work 🙂

        Heh, it might have been HHJ too for me. But I just rmr thinking they were really STIFF when they kissed on the bridge and pretty much every scene with them. I get annoyed by that, “Let me stand here and pretend I’m an inanimate object” pose so many kdramas have. And LSG was just a grumpy butt.

        • boms

          lol the kiss scene.. I totally agree with that. We all know that is NOT how people kiss in real life heh heh which is why I appreciate QIM 🙂

  31. 31 coolrepublica

    i listened to the pod cast and we agree on everything except the ending for QIHM. It did not bother me one bit.

    So I think we should start a petition to stop Koreans from speaking English in dramas. It drives crazy. I just skip over it because it turns actors I respect into crappy ass actors. I don’t know why they think it’s cool but is cringe worthy every time.

    I also agree that Dr. Jin is a mess. This show should be studied to show how important directing, acting and cinematography is. The Dr. Jin Japanese version has the same plot line, but it’s a different animal. Amazing acting, amazing directing and amazing cinematography can change the world. So anyone who wants to see what Jin Korean drama could have been should check out the Japanese version.

    Lately, the dramas out of Korea have not been very interesting to me, other than QHIM, so I am hoping that the second half of the year makes up for a really bad first half. It’s so bad I started watching Japanese dramas something I thought I would never get into, but to my surprise when Japanese are not doing high school dramas they are on their game and outshine Koreans in story telling and acting.

    • 31.1 addylovesbwood

      you forgot to add that the whole time travel thing was out of this world unrealistic. so i don’t see why the ending should bother me. Nothing in the drama was ever real life stuff. the ending to QHIM made total sense to me

    • 31.2 english subtitles

      ~~~ So I think we should start a petition to stop Koreans from speaking English in dramas. ~~~

      They should subtitle the English parts because, truth be told, the English is not always understandable. Of course, some Koreans speak English fluently, like Jung Ryeo-won (in “My Lovely Samsoon”) and others.

      And since I’m on the subject of subtitles, did anyone else find the subtitles on “My Secret Garden” too small? Maybe because I’m watching on a small portable DVD player – but really, the subtitles need to be just a tiny bit bigger.

  32. 32 Cynthia

    The second you guys said “Dr. Jin” and burst put laughing, I was having the same reaction – especially just having seen ep 11. No spoilers (although I’m thinking that that’s kinda redundant a word to describe the insanity of what is Dr. Jin), Mr. Handtowel has his perpetually puzzled look and says “What did I do wrong?” when considering that he’s totally fucked up the history books with his actions. Who knew Penicillin and Beri-Beri Donuts could have such an effect?!
    I agree that the Director is horrific – but I’m also convinced that the writer(s) is running down the same path. This drama is just plain loony.

    Thanks for the hilarious Podcast – am looking forward to Part 2!

  33. 33 Arivle

    I was just thinking “I wished JB/GF do a podcast” and BOOM!! here it is…:D love ya girls…and off to listen..

  34. 34 KDrama Fan

    Good morning girls.

    Thanks for the podcast.

    Shame it’s morning here otherwise I’d join in on the drinking.

    I have no reference for Jang Dong-gun except AGD. Will have to see if there’s something earlier of his I can watch.

    Loved hearing the unknown BGM of QIHM again and of course your takes.

    Look forward to hearing Part 2.

    • 34.1 Missy_K

      U GOT to see All About Eve. That drama made me fall in love with JDG and I’ve watched it like a hundred times!

  35. 35 jen

    I can honestly say I didn’t find Jang Dong-gun attractive or get his popularity before the drama started. But now? I totally get it lol. He is so so attractive to me now.

  36. 36 OMG

    OMG I LOVE LOVE LOVE this….yall got me cracking up about Dr. Jin….
    I loved and agreed with all ur thoughts about K2H!

    • 36.1 OMG

      wait i have a question…how can u(cant remember if it was GF/JB) not have finished K2H even though u guys were recapping it????

      • 36.1.1 ilikemangos

        K2H was a show that GF recapped by herself.

        • OMG

          oh snap!!~ I didnt know that!!

  37. 37 JustJen

    I giggled my way through this as I got ready for work this morning, it was a totally awesome way to start the day.

  38. 38 jyyjc

    Omg does anybody know where i can download that unknown bg track of queen inhyun’s man?? jb and gf, did you just cut the audio out of the drama or did they actually release the actual track of it? I love it too, it just gets me right here *pounds at heart*whenever it appears in the drama.

  39. 39 ilikemangos

    Aw, if it wasn’t seung gi you would have been more invested, JB? ha.
    I thought seung gi was okay, seeing him in brilliant legacy. and then in MGIG where he was cute. But i fell in LOVE with him after K2H.
    I guess for me, i watched K2H passionately because i totally, like GF, bought into the whole story.
    I feel like in K2H if you started watching fervently then you just fell MORE in love throughout.
    But if you didn’t have interest from the beginning then it’s not something that can pull you through 20 eps.

    just LOL at your entire Dr. Jin portion and GF’s epiphanies.. Agree with what you guys say. I have so much wonder about this show. Probably one of the worst of the shows being aired, and yet has one of the most watchers. Sorry jaejoong lovers, but please do not get too offended.

    • 39.1 Blackjack

      I totally agree- i loved Seungi gi in K2H and even though im not a huge Ha Ji Won fan, they worked great together! The entire journey of this bratty careless prince becoming a responsible and great king was brilliant. I loved how the ending wasn’t idyllic and there’s definitely still problems between the two sides.

      Also, The endless parallel’s between the two leads’ relationship and the relationship between the two countries completely drew me in. I know its not realistic, but damn if i didn’t buy into it and completely believe it.

      Bong Gun as a villian was weird as heck, but i loved how he kept screwing with them- wasn’t a fan of his last stand though, he didnt go down like i wanted him to =/

      Okay, done with my rant now….oh wait, i forgot- Shi Kyung!! Definitely my favorite character!

    • 39.2 BB

      I echo your thoughts on Seung Gi. He was fantastic and absolutely riveting as LJH. It’s interesting that JB stated that she may have not fallen for the drama as she merely liked LSG. I’ll say for myself that I fell head over heels in love with him in K2H. Before TK2H I just knew of him as the entertainer who’d been MINE’d and/or puppy-fied by GF!! heh. I already miss him, which is a first for me, and can’t wait for his next series.

      • 39.2.1 Missy_K

        Me too! I know LSG is very famous in Korea, but I’ve never seen or felt compelled to watch any of his drama. But after TK2H, I’m a die-hard fan, and I’m going to his fanmeet in Sgp on Aug 25th!!! SG-yaaa, noona’s coming to see u!!!!

        • BB

          That’s awesome! I’ve been so jealous reading fan accounts wax poetic on Seung Gi being very friendly, humble, and thoughtful to fans on his recent trip to Europe. T_T

          He’s been positively glowing of late. How can someone:
          a) Look so fresh after travelling over a day
          b) The following pix scream TESTOSTERONE!


          Or maybe as JB correctly stated that like GF he’s now THE most good-looking person to me. I’m okay with this affliction, though.

          • Missy_K

            Gosh, those airport pix! SG looks sooo smexyy!!! *droolz*

    • 39.3 mtoh

      Hi dear, Do I have to comment anything about TK2H. I simply loved drama to it pieces.
      Hehe, I was wonder does anyone watch Jin, but after podcast everyone’s gonna check it to see what so sucks.
      Good promotion..haha 😉

  40. 40 Stef

    Oh awesome, new podcast!~
    For some reason I was actually thinking of Rooftop Prince today before listening to this podcast. Some sort of premonition? Hehe
    Does anybody remember that library scene where Park Ha finds something in a book about Yi Gak (maybe)?
    Did they ever show what she found out?
    If what she found was the outcome of the last episode, I think that’s a pretty big deal and they never referenced it back to that scene or Park Ha was never disturbed about what she found after that scene.
    Maybe I just don’t remember and I’m talking nonesense, after all it has been a while since Rooftop.
    Another thing I want to say that’s been bugging me for a while and I’ve want to talk to someone about but can’t find a person to talk to (hehe..)
    Queen In Hyun’s Man, that beginning flashback scene. For the whole drama until the last episode I thought that it was actually something that was going to happen later on, since it was like a flashback, right? So the whole time when Bung-Do faced near death experiences I thought to myself “Well, obviously he can’t die because that scene in the beginning has not happened yet. We know he still lives.”
    I was fooled! I thought maybe this could have been the end scene, but then again wouldn’t have worked cuz’ talisman ain’t working. Maybe if it was some sort of miracle, maybe Boong-Do’s gisaeng lady friend’s ghost (forgot her name, sorry :/) was ok with it after all and talisman magic works again. I dont know.
    Also about establishing the cell phone time travel machine device, what if they had taken a photo of the talisman before it went bad. It’s still a pretty ridiculous scenario tho.
    Anyway I enjoed the podcast as always, especially when there are drunk people. Cheers!

    • 40.1 Requiem

      QIHM – I don’t know if it’s a common trope in Kdramas (or at least these type of Kdrama), but Han Gil Dong (also a fusion sageuk) had a similar opening scene which never reappears in the drama.

      As to QIHM cell phone, I had the same reaction as JB and GF.

      As long as things are foreshadowed previously in the story, I’m ok with essentially deus ex machinas.

      But when it’s thrown in at the end, it jars you out of living the story because it doesn’t make sense in the world of the drama and makes you have to think about something which for the most part you should feel.

      I wonder if anyone can really say that they weren’t at least slightly jarred out of the story when seeing the cell phone scene. After all, nothing before had prepared us to expect that type of behavior. And we had previous scenes where the cell phone didn’t work, so why should we expect it to at that time?

      Some can handle the jarring effect better than others. For me, personally, it took me completely out of the story and made me try to come up with an explanation of how the cell phone worked for almost the entirety of the rest of the episode.

    • 40.2 shinko

      I always wondered the same thing about the entry she read. I read her response as slightly dismayed, so maybe she knew what was going to happen. I also was waiting for that flashback to occur. It was an April date, but when they passed April I realized it was just a pretty scene to start the series.

  41. 41 WvR

    Thanks for the podcast! Both of your perspectives on dramas are very interesting to listen to.

  42. 42 keya

    What’s a podcast? I’ve been wondering. Clueless.

    • 42.1 jomo

      This is a recorded conversation between JB and GF where they talk about the topics noted up there.

      If you look at the top of the post, there is a “download” button or a play (arrow) button.

      You can download and listen on your ipod, or computer, or listen to it from this page.

      They are very silly.

  43. 43 kiongna

    JB & GB and the whole DB team are hilariously Smart and kick ass drama lovers 🙂 with sharp wit – writers who can inject their personalities into their writings, speech and entertain their readers so well and have such great sense of humor and warm hearts, silly? no way 🙂

    thanks for another podcast, will hear download it pronto and hear asap!

  44. 44 nonski

    here and i was listening to podcast 11 on my way to work, basking in your loving voices discussing the national drama that is moon which you think does not have the substance but still… 🙂 and now ta new podcast. yay!

    btw listening to 11 made my boat trip bearable… thanks~~~

  45. 45 marneh11

    Yes GF, we are the most fervent fans of the King! Cheers! 🙂

  46. 46 Sandra

    We all love Jang Dong Gun!

  47. 47 Rashell

    YAY! I was hoping for one of these soon! SOOOO excited. Now off to listen.

  48. 48 alsey

    For QIHM, did anyone else connect her remembering him to his coming back instead of simply the phone call. I agree that the phone call is strange and doesn’t quite make sense, but also the phone call was made as she remembered everything about their relationship. To me it was the fact that he came back when she remembered him that explained the ending to a satisfactory extent. I think the calling thing was over emphasized, but because of the remembering I actually liked the ending. Anyone else agree?

    • 48.1 aoiaheen

      I agree. I think the calling part was quite nice. I think the cell phone spoilt it. If she had just tried calling the phone and then he disappeared into the future that would have been perfect for me. They did show in a previous episode that someone could “call” him back when YW called for him at the time she was killed. So yeah, i agree with you.

    • 48.2 FlexibleSamurai

      Yes, the ending worked for me because he came back due to her REMEMBERING him and not because of the cell phone (i.e. she calling him was the result of her remembering him)

      It is ridiculous that everyone thinks that the phone call was the only thing that allowed him back – no, the phone call happened because she REMEMBERED him.

  49. 49 Ashley

    Arg! Please tell me these podcasts work in the states, because they do not work in china :/

  50. 50 Betsy Hp

    Oh, I love your podcasts! 🙂 I’m listening right now and totally nodding along to “Rooftop Prince”. It really would have made a better movie. And the ending does get more o.O as you think about it. It was pretty cruel to the poor prince. (Though he did have his bros. Consolation prize for second place?)

    Eep! Just hit QIH’sM. Total disagreement tinged with sadness because the ending so worked for me that I hate to hear it didn’t work for others. (A similar feeling to someone saying they don’t like chocolate. Or coffee.) The phone call seemed such a brilliant, well-placed, unique to them and their story, device. But… if it didn’t work for you I don’t think it can be made to work for you. (If that makes sense.)

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