Dramabeans Podcast #12, Part 1
by javabeans
Podcast #12, Part 1
Running time: 58:53
In which we:
- Catch up on which new shows have premiered in the new year;
- discuss Rooftop Prince (3:05);
- Queen In-hyun’s Man and its ending (10:50);
- The King 2 Hearts with a tangent on Sohn Ji-chang and the origins of girlfriday’s Seung-gi love (19:39);
- Jang Dong-gun’s popularity and A Gentleman’s Dignity (38:45);
- and the craziness that is Dr. Jin (47:35).
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Stay tuned for the soon-to-come Part 2 to this podcast, where we talk I Do I Do, Big, and Gaksital (among other things)!
Songs Used in Podcast (In order of use)
Seo Taiji – “Live Wire”
Rooftop Prince OST – “Happy Ending” by Park Jaebum
Queen In-hyun’s Man OST – “같은 하늘 다른 시간에” (Same Sky, Different Time) by Joohee
Queen In-hyun’s Man OST – unknown background track
The Blue – “친구를 위해” (For a friend)
King 2 Hearts OST – “미치게 보고싶은” (Miss you like crazy) by Taeyeon
Dr. Jin OST – “살아도 꿈인 것처럼” (Like a dream) by Jaejoong
Peppertones – “High Romance”
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51 aoiaheen
July 1, 2012 at 8:42 PM
Hilarious podcast. I was shaking with laughter and simulatenously trying not to wake my sleeping daughter up. That didn't happen.
Thanks for this.
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52 linguist
July 1, 2012 at 8:46 PM
K2H was SO special because it had its heart in the right place. Like others I am aware of the glaring plot holes but the brilliance of the show stemmed from its characters, their growth, consistencies, the details in the plot/scenes, and the non-usage of the typical K-drama tropes. Every week I tuned in for the characters and they more than made up for the many plot fails. All said and done, this show was just beautiful.
Prior to K2H I was ambivalent to LSG but what a stellar breakthrough performance he delivered in this show. With this one he's set himself apart from his peers. Even sharing screen space with the scene-stealer JJS and the veteran actors he held his own. The more I read up on him the more I understand the reasons for him being a force to be reckoned with in Korea and with K2H his fanbase has gone global.
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wanne
July 2, 2012 at 7:44 AM
Agree 100%.
TK2H is a really special drama for me as well because of the reasons you mentioned.
The characters and their relationship with each other are so satisfying (except for Bonggu and his gang and the English speaker characters).
- The heroine stayed strong until the end.
- The couple never kept each other in the dark, always shared everything with each other.
- They really went through everything together. The comfort and protect each other.
- Such nice in-laws. very rare in kdramas.
- Second lead characters who are all important roles for the story. All of them are memorable.
This is also a trifecta drama for me; great acting, directing and writing. I was so invested in the characters, and emotionally exhausted through out the drama. A lot of scenes were amazingly executed.
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canxi
July 2, 2012 at 12:00 PM
I agree. I think if that drama was missing one of these things it would have made me like it a lot less. If the in-laws were the usual overbearing type I don't think I would have been attached, for example. It's small, but things like that bother me since that isn't the only parental character type.
I wasn't crying, but I felt for everyone. I also liked that these characters GREW. There are so many dramas in which the characters don't go threw any actual growth or understanding of themselves and it's sooo weird. Especially in a romance, where having found love is more a chance than any to realize things about yourself and grow.
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Nirasha
July 3, 2012 at 12:59 AM
I agree with all u guys said. TK2H was amazing in every aspect. The growth of character of the King, was what got me. I really wanted to see more of mourning from Jae Ha about Eun shi keung's death. Their bromance was awesome, so I felt that mourning part was a bit glossed over, apart from that I absolutely loved TK2H.
I didn't know about LSG before TK2H. now i'm a fan.
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53 WHAT
July 1, 2012 at 8:46 PM
WHO DOESNT FIND JANG DONG-GUN ATTRACTIVE. SOOOO SEXY DOEE.
To be fair, I find Kim Min Jong gorgeous too.
But, I do find older men attractive.
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canxi
July 2, 2012 at 11:40 AM
Jang Dong Gun has this mischievous look to him that I find attractive? I dunno...lol He's also kinda tan, which I also like.
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54 Nay Jack
July 1, 2012 at 8:54 PM
You underate Gentleman's Dignity. It is hilarious and has very funny scenes. overall the female lead is lacking but frankly I could watch those 4 guys all day. Did you watch the chacha dance?
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55 ro
July 1, 2012 at 9:21 PM
where did you get the background track/music cue for Queen InHyeon's Man?? I love it! Can someone tell me where to find it?
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ro
July 1, 2012 at 9:46 PM
Jang Dong Gun is beautiful now just as he was before!! :D
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jyyjc
July 2, 2012 at 12:59 AM
Yes I'm asking the same thing. Can someone please help this poor drama bg music lover???....I mean..I'm the poor drama bg music lover.. not you ro...well I don't know if you are...ok I'll stop.
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jyyjc
July 14, 2012 at 3:07 PM
Finally found it. It's called "my man, kim boong do", an instrumental from the latest ost release.
Just in case you come back here to check for replies.
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56 J
July 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM
I absolutely love Gentleman's Dignity. + Jang Dong Gun. Who says it's not popular overseas? Also: I Need Romance Season 2. Excited!!! MUST WATCH.
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mita
July 2, 2012 at 12:03 AM
Yeah, I wonder why JB and GF are saying that AGD is not that popular overseas coz as far as I know AGD's thread in soompi is the most active thread right now among korean dramas that are being shown beating big, bridal mask and Dr. Jin in no. of views and postings. It's also very popular in baidu site. And who says that AGD has no plot? It definitely has and I'm sure the plot will thicken as the drama progresses.
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57 queencircles
July 1, 2012 at 10:48 PM
"It's like quicksand... it looks all normal and shit and then you step on it you're like 'WHAT THE FUCK! I'm dying!'" Best line ever hahaha
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58 Faith
July 1, 2012 at 11:02 PM
I'm fifteen and I think Jang Dong Gun is reaaaaaally goodlooking! :(
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59 eternalfive
July 1, 2012 at 11:04 PM
Omg, you guys and your podcasts are just plain awesome. Was laughing the whole way through. XD Especially during the Dr Jin section with JB's nepotism theory. XD Thanks, JB and GF!
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60 danny
July 1, 2012 at 11:07 PM
and who is that in the picture? JB or GF! beautiful!
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61 maeye86
July 1, 2012 at 11:17 PM
the fan base for the king is fervent!
Yeay for the acknowledgement!!!! Hearties FTW!!
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ilikemangos
July 2, 2012 at 8:25 AM
;)
salute!
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62 maeye86
July 1, 2012 at 11:22 PM
oh yeah, btw, i shud hv listened to u guys about SeGa a year ago. Just when I started watching and fell in love with TK2H I realised that SeGa is plotless. HAHA *slowpoke* (yeah, i don't watch many dramas)
So yeah, I'm not gonna invest my emotions like i did for SeGa and later I realised I invested those for nothing. So yeah, no for gentleman's dignity.
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mtoh
July 1, 2012 at 11:30 PM
Why dear, whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy?
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maeye86
July 2, 2012 at 12:02 AM
hahaha, i dun wanna fall into so-cute-but-no-plot-show any more. somehow i feel cheated like you know, u fall head over heels, ur life will be dedicated for it but later when u meet something better and u starts to wonder... 'hurm, what was that that i've been watching?!'
*a needle just burst your happiness bubble*
i had that with SeGa and i dun wanna go through that again.
*someone slaps me please and tell me that these are just dramas*
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mita
July 2, 2012 at 12:08 AM
It just a drama so why do have to dedicate yourself fully on a drama? AGD is a romantic drama, just watch it and enjoy.
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mtoh
July 2, 2012 at 12:49 AM
Hug dear, I know ;)
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mtoh
July 2, 2012 at 12:53 AM
@Mita;
Sometimes it's strongest then you and your wish to just watch and have a great time. Doesn't happen often for me, but when it does it takes good part of your life. ;)
reglest
July 3, 2012 at 6:11 AM
@mita:
Let me help maeye answer it, kkkk
Because both of us still trapped in TK2H awesomeness until now, maybe? I'm a person who difficult to love sth, but when I fall, I fall hard
I'd gotta give AGD try *yes Mtoh, yes* to decorate me with smile ;)
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63 sally_b
July 2, 2012 at 2:22 AM
Thank you so much for the podcast. (golden.)
p.s I just watched the first 5 minutes of Dr. Jin: epi 12.
I know, I know....the suggestion was for Gentleman's 5-minute bromance scenario ~ but I decided to apply it to Jin
...since I'd decided to go * staight recaps* from here on out. (2nd chance, you know)
o.m.g. This show is like watching classic TV batman...
http://holagamer.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/batman.jpg
.....I expect *POW* and *WHAM* in text/letters with starbursts between character comments ~
It's just....insanely funny. (giggles into hand)...yet feels sorry for the elder actors...what a mess!
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64 Colors
July 2, 2012 at 9:23 AM
I heard your podcast and mostly agree with both of you (although I haven't tried to watch Dr Jin yet, and I don't feel like it now...).
I juste wanted to add one good reason to watch A Gentleman's Dignity (and not becaue I found your famous Korean actor really good and good looking despite being young and not knowing about his fame) : I like the bromance in it. I know that some other kdrama have focused on friendship (I only watched Shut Up! Flower Boy Band and What's Up actually, so if someone could recommend something else...)
I hate that most heroes are virtually friendless in kdrama land. Either their friends are nice but useless, or they're meddlesome or even greedy (like selling the deed to your house... how is that even possible? I suppose South Koreans don't have names written on deeds...) and there aren't many "true" or delighting friendship.
So in that regard, and as far as relationships are depicted, I think AGD is like a Korean male version of Desperate Housewives: the main plot and even subplots seem stupid but most of the scenes are funny and worth watching.
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Requiem
July 2, 2012 at 11:16 PM
I agree with you about AGD. The main reason why I'm watching it is for the interactions between the 4 friends. It's pretty awesome to see depicted a good friendship amongst people who've known each other for a long time.
I haven't seen that many kdramas, but I'd say my favorite friendship dramas would have to be:
Two Outs In the Bottom of the Ninth (at dramafever as 9 End 2 Outs)
Operation Proposal
For Two Outs, that's probably my favorite slice of life series, because
1) we see two friends with an enviable friendship change to a believable love. GF puts it very well in her series review: "I’m never jealous of relationships in k-dramas.... But this drama actually made me want that kind of relationship.... I love their comfort level, and their realistic discussions about dating, sex, and love."
2) EVERYONE in the drama goes through growth and you see a group of friends as they support each other through the growth and changes
3) there isn't really one bad guy in the story. Everyone is a pretty believable character with strengths and weaknesses throughout.
It's really too bad that they stuck so much with the baseball theme.
First, it doesn't appeal to its target demographic (mainly female).
Second, it's actually kind of klunky the way they incorporate the baseball analogies. As an avid baseball fan, I can tell you for the most part that the "baseball theme" of each episode doesn't really make much sense in the context of baseball. And that doesn't even touch on the fact that a baseball game usually only goes 9 innings instead of the 16 they have.
Third, they devote a little too much time to the baseball theme than they really should. Not so much as to overwhelm the viewer, but they could have spent more of that time on the actual story itself.
But aside from the sort-of tacked on theme, it's a great drama with friendships, believable human characters, and a warmth that you don't really want to end.
Operation Proposal, while not the best drama, really grabbed me because of the friendship of the core group of friends throughout the series. Interestingly enough, it also has a romance of friends being/becoming more than friends, but it tends to be more fantastical instead of realistic.
The focus around the friendship and the overlying message of the series are what allowed me to enjoy a drama which on the whole was a little lacking in the believability aspects.
If anyone has any other friendship dramas that they would recommend, I'd definitely love to hear about them as I love seeing the banter and repartee between a group of people who support each other through thick and thin.
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Colors
July 3, 2012 at 9:22 AM
Thank you for recommendations, I'll try and watch them both.
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yossie
July 3, 2012 at 7:01 AM
I love AGD to bits. It's more a male version of Desperate Housewives than Sex and The City.
It has no plots so I enjoy it that much.
The tone is light so I can smile after I finish it.
It's just a simple show, but I like it rather than... TH2H or Gaksital :)
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65 canxi
July 2, 2012 at 11:37 AM
I don't agree with that "if you have to write an essay for something to make sense, it doesn't make sense" statement.
My lit. class in college has taught me that there are just some things that require great amounts of thought and looking into. We would read books and then watch the movie counter-parts and there were just some things you had to think about, talk about, write an actual essay about lol. One sentence or one action in a movie became a whole discussion--it happens. And in that way we gained more insight, drew conclusions, and things were able to make sense. It wasn't the writer saying "Ah yes, this is it/why/how" but we're able to draw our own answers on things even if everyone's idea is different, which I think is absolutely awesome.
Maybe that's why the ending of Queen In-Hyun's Man worked for me. As much as I like the answers to be handed to me, I like when I have an ending to think about. "Oh, how did this happen? Why did it happen?" When I'm given something that gives me these questions I feel much more attached and apart of a show. I do feel there was foundation built up for that ending too--subtle, subtle foundation, lol, that you can think about after the whole thing is over. Like...expect the unexpected? Lol, something like that...just we didn't expect it, haha.
I mean, it's not like a nine-tailed fox came in, swallowed Boong-Do, and threw him into the future threw it's ass--only then would I go "OK,WTF?" hahaha!
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boms
July 3, 2012 at 8:36 AM
I agree, technically, anything can make sense in this world. You just need to think about it!
I also liked the ending. Who cares if we didn't know about cell phone powers?! XD Maybe the powers behind the talisman decided "Hmm. Maybe I want to make them meet again. Maybe I'll let him make the travel one last time..." or maybe Yoon wol in the after life saw Boong do going around in circles aimlessly living his life and felt that he should be happy and her feelings and aspirations in that talisman sparked one last time?
Who knows!? XD it's magic!- no one will ever completely understandi it. That's why it's mystical. After all, the drama clearly stated that regardless of what the will of Boong do or Yoon wol was, it was ultimately allllll up to the talisman :]
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canxi
July 3, 2012 at 8:31 PM
I think that the best part about magic is that it is seemingly unexplainable. But, the more you think about magic the more you enjoy it. It's fun to think about all the possibilities or just be boggled,lol. It's only when you actually find out what is going on that it might become less enjoyable. I'd rather speculate than to actually know, haha
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66 pigtookie
July 2, 2012 at 11:50 AM
Just listened to the blurb on JDG. Looks-wise, I can't say I find him one of the most attractive men in Korea, but he's very attractive nevertheless and even more charming onscreen. I've watched only All About Eve prior to AG'sD though and was shocked to find out he was the same guy (spoilery: well with his hair slicked back in Ep. 12, I could immediately see the resemblence). I agree though, that the first 5 minutes is the best part of each episode.
I was initially interested for Kim Suro and Kim Haneul, but ended up really fawning over Kim Minjong and JDG. KMJ is great, more so whenever there's a scene on the guys alone.
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mita
July 3, 2012 at 4:39 AM
JDg is not photogenic or telegenic. He's much more good looking in person.
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67 gbo
July 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM
my fave from feeling was kim min jong. love. loved his songs too. i can't separate the actors from their characters, so i don't have an actor type, i have character love. kim min jong has the best character in GD too, though the meh ahri is getting to be a drag.
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68 Shinko
July 2, 2012 at 3:17 PM
Thanks for the podcast girls! I also loved TK2H. There's nothing more attractive than a smart lead. I loved how LSG's character was flawed but oh so smart!! He had some room to grow and I loved seeing how he became more confident! Inre A Gentleman's Dignity and no plot..I've always viewed it as a bromance/coming of age drama for a bunch of older guys who are facing a crossroads...except for Yoon. Most of the humor pokes fun at their age and incongruous behavior. It's a lot better than I expected. I'm new to these dramas so I'm not quite as enamored of these guys. They all look good for their age. So I looked up JDG, and he was GORGEOUS when he was a younger man! Prefer none of them to have the pretty boy haircut...they can't really pull it off...imo
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wanne
July 3, 2012 at 7:51 AM
Yes, love how smart and brave he is. Especially during his scenes with Boonggu and the corrupted politicians. I dont like how one dimensional Bonggu's character is but Yoon Je Moon has really elevated the character. He made me shiver! Paired him up with Seunggi's Jaeha and Jo Jeong Seok's Shikyung, its just awesome.
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wanne
July 3, 2012 at 8:54 AM
I think Boonggu's character became more interesting once he met Jaeha. Before that, all the magic thing was really pointless. Later, his scenes with the royal family was really riveting. I dont know if Javabeans has watched the scene when the Queen mother was kidnapped, but that was one of the scenes in which the sequence of it kept me holding my breathe all the way through and amazed by the writing and acting. Such amazingly written women characters. When mom hit Bonggu while trembling, oh so good.
This aspect of K2H was what makes the drama so great. Awesome characters, heartwarming relationship between people and the roller-coaster of emotion.
I'm pretty sure I will not watch this drama if Seunggi was not the cast, because political theme was my least favourite genre. But the fact that the drama was so good makes me love it even more.
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69 Gentlewoman's Dignity
July 2, 2012 at 3:55 PM
Oh Jang Dong Gun is gorgeousssss.........no other korean is as gorgeous as him! Try watch his older dramas (Model, Medical Brothers, All about Eve) and you'll know what i mean. He's cute is AGD but the hair is not suitable. The one he's dancing in Ep. 12, is his real looks...and yup, darn gorgeous...swoon...
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70 Mama J
July 2, 2012 at 5:38 PM
Oh ladies, you do crack me up! Thank you for drinking and drama-ing on our behalf. We appreciate you so very much! I was listening at work and trying very unsuccessfully to keep my giggles low enough not to disturb cubicles around me. It's very hard to explain why something is funny if that person has no clue about KDrama to begin with.
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71 dramababe
July 2, 2012 at 6:50 PM
Any plans for having the podcast as a video clip in the future?
Am enjoying the site with the detailed recaps.
Would be great if you told more about the story plot lines you're discussing in the podcast, for some of us that have not seen every single show ?
Also, you guys say 'like' a LOT.
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72 wonderingring
July 2, 2012 at 8:24 PM
Re: the English thing. I definitely agree with the points that JB and GF are bringing up, but for me (I'm multilingual) I just crack up completely and amuse myself with the horrible English. I do cringe FOR the speaker, though... for the part where doing the English, but being so bad/limited at it, actually highlights the fact that they're so bad at it.
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73 addylovesbwood
July 2, 2012 at 8:36 PM
I had a good laugh listening to your podcasts!
RoofTop: you guys totally bashed it. it wasn't that bad of a drama. you said one thing i agreed with: K2H was the better of the two!! #myteam!
QIHM: Ending didn't ruin it for me at all. I tot the whole phone thing was a bit cheesy tho but it worked so hey! can't complain.
K2H: you have to give seung gi and ha ji won more credit. they were great! i would still luv seung gi 20yrs down the line as an ahjussi!!
AGD:You do realize that Jang Dong Gun is not the only character in the drama...i get that he's famous but who cares?? i didn't know he was the king of all celebrities in korea but that doesn't change the fact that i like Yoon and Meahri's storyline better than Do Jins...
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74 szufontana
July 2, 2012 at 11:09 PM
This podcast, as with other podcasts, cracked me up! Only wish it was 5pm here so I could open a bottle of wine and join the girls.
They are the reason why I follow Dramabeans religiously. TOTALLY agreed everything about AGD. I don't get the show either and it's up there with Secret Garden for me, where the girls said rightly about how the body-swiching thing had no purpose. This writer I just don't get.
AND that bit about Dr Jin and SSH...haha....again, TOTALLY with the girls on this.
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75 boms
July 3, 2012 at 8:24 AM
Thanks for the podcast :) This totally helped my Monday morning at work go faster. I Love listening to these while I'm working for some reason! But it's funny cause I have to listen in a lower volume because I'm afraid colleagues will hear the F bombs ^^;; kkk
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76 Elle
July 3, 2012 at 3:45 PM
I think the reason for the discrepancy in interest for certain dramas locally and internationally is the method of viewing. International viewers (like myself) watch through the internet which involves our full attention. Given King 2 Hearts vs. Rooftop Prince, the drama with more substance would win out. Television viewing is quite the opposite; usually done amongst other things. Resulting to people opting for the easier watch. Of course there are the few exceptions like Secret Garden and Boys Over Flowers which appealed to both.
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77 Abbie
July 3, 2012 at 4:17 PM
First off, this is the first podcast I've listened to, and you guys are awesome and hilarious.
Second, I love A Gentleman's Dignity! I like it way better than Secret Garden, which I only got to episode 4 on, and I couldn't finish it. It sucks. I like the actors and all, but the rest is crap and boring. Anyway, I love A Gentleman's Dignity. Jang Dong-gun is so hot, and this is coming from a nineteen-year-old. All the actors are great, it's just their characters that I find frustrating.
Thanks for the Podcast! It's great!
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78 chichiri
July 3, 2012 at 5:47 PM
Where in the world is part 2? :P
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79 p7879
July 3, 2012 at 5:50 PM
I love QIHM... i cant watch other dramas as of the moment id rather rewatch it lol.... i like the ending - its not the cellphone per se but HJ remembering him and their love plus his death that makes him go back and besides they always find each other through phone : )
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80 yossie
July 4, 2012 at 1:38 AM
I don't know why you guys said that AGD is not that popular overseas. From what I see, even in baidu and soompi, this drama is so popular, a lot of people talk about it. Well, I can not judge anything since I don't know how to count this drama's popularity on your website :)
Thanks anyway!
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81 vanillasalt
July 5, 2012 at 10:34 PM
I'm seeing Jang Dong Gun acting for the first time in Gentleman's Dignity, I'm 17, and I think he's pretty hot ;) Love him!
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82 JheartsK
July 6, 2012 at 3:01 AM
You both are so fun to read and listen to. One suggestion regarding future podcasts: Sometimes the interrupting of each other mid-sentence is a bit frustrating for the listener. Allow one another to finish a thought before offering a response. That said, your thoughts are appreciated.
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83 aaron
July 7, 2012 at 8:27 PM
uh if anyone is wondering the unknown background music in queen inhyun's man is actually called "내 남자, 김붕도"
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84 Jennifer
July 14, 2012 at 6:05 AM
Does anyone know where I can download Queen In-hyun’s Man OST – unknown background track? :( I love it but I can't find it
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85 kinac
August 21, 2012 at 1:35 AM
ohmygosh i totally agree with the about that song that comes on in Queen Inhyun's man! It totally draws me in everytime. And the ending was a little nonsensical but the moment when i found out they were going to be together i was so swept by happiness and glee it didn't even matter to me at all. No joke. I was literally crying my eyes out 1 second before. The drama is seriously so cute it will probably forever remain one of my faves X)
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86 Belle
September 22, 2012 at 12:40 PM
I LOVE the podcast! I can really relate to you guys' opinion, so it's fun to listen. You guys should make a vlog sometime! I'd love to see you guys 'in action'. But if you want the anonymity to remain, I really love these podcasts.
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87 hottestjen
October 7, 2012 at 7:16 PM
QIH was wonderful, i am disappointed in how you guys viewed QIH and it's ending and constantly mentioned the cellphone bringing him back but it was the fact that he choose to die, choose to sacrifice his life and when she called him it broke the universe of time that they were in.
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