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First? Probably not... :(

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Happy OT everyone!

What does MISA stand for? I have seen it many times but can't figure out what it stand for. I Know it is a drama (maybe with So Ji Sub?) and I have looked for the name on dramas' lists but still couldn't make what the acronym stood for.

Another question: I have looked at the sitemeter, and I have noticed that the # of users currently online doesn't match the # of online users broken down when one looks at the sitemeter page. Has anyone noticed that? And if yes, why is that?

I hope everyone will have a great weekend! It is getting colder in my neck of the woods.

@ Maya, if you read this, I left you a response on Gaksital recap for episode 27 thread and to those who said "Hello" to me last week, I responded to all of you. It was sloppy, but I responded.

Gaksital is over, all good things must come to an end! That's the way life goes.... At least it went out with a bang :-)!!!! This week, I watched Faith and Gaksital. two different shows, but both good, imho.

*SPOILERS ABOUT FAITH*
Does anyone know the name of the young king in Faith? I mean the name of the child actor who plays the young king. I couldn't find it (yet). Thanks!

NOTE: Sorry to tag on to you NKB: my page is weird: I don't have the icon/opening to enter a post, just the reply options are showing up, I am not sure why.

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MISA is short for "Sorry I Love You" (MIanhada SAranghanda).

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Thanks
You can always learn something new in OT

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Thanks Rovi, I appreciate it. No wonder I couldn't find the drama. I was looking under an English title, that's why. Is this drama good, or is it very melodramatic?

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MiSa is quite melodramatic. I'm not a big fan of melos but I would still suggest that you watch it but be prepared for the ending.

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Thanks Hoochie, I will keep that in mind :-)!

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Hi Iv,
I've seen your comment. But I haven't got the chance to reply yet. I'm between events right now and I only have a short time to open my laptop (and the first thing I did was checking DB :D). Will come back later on in the day, or maybe tomorrow to reply it. I feel like I also need to touch every point you've written in your post, and I don't think I'll have enough time to reply it all right now. So please check it out later in the day Iv. :)
Btw, a word of advice, you shouldn't watch MiSa after just finishing Gaksital last night. That series was pretty heartbreaking too. I loved So Ji Sub there, though... :)
Anyway I hope you've had a great week so far, Iv. And a great weekend ahead of you.. :)

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Hi Maya,

So good to hear from you!!!! I know you are very busy and I appreciate you leaving me a response. I was thinking about you and I wanted to ask you this: would you be opposed to us being friends on FB? (that is if you have a FB account). I have enjoyed getting to know you, and I thought it would be nice to know each other better. I hope you are not offended by my request/thought. I like our conversations/discussions, the maturity in our conversation (by that I mean that we are both educated and we learn from the exchanges we have. We can also be silly at times, and that is OK and actually welcomed), how we never forget if we owe each other a response etc... It's like even though we don't really know each other, we care about each other to a certain extent, like we think about each other when we are away from each other, and I think that is what happens. I really LIKE our exchange of ideas :-).

I have exchanged emails with two ladies here and I have had contacts and phone conversations with 2 others (and emails). One ended up sending me peppermint candy and ramen noodles (that Yonchun is a CF actor for) during the RTP days by mail (and that was very sweet) and I met one who took me to the Google K-pop concert in Mountain View, CA back in May. It is kind of nice when meeting on a blog site can lead to making actual connections. In any case, I thought I would throw it out there, for your consideration.

I am glad you read my response, please take your time to respond. I am not going anywhere :-). Just let me know when you post it.

Thank you for the piece of advice about MiSa. I will leave it for another day. I was curious about it, because I have seen it being referred to, a lot.

Alright my dear, a great weekend to you as well. *Hugs*

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Hi Iv,

*hugs back* I just replied to your comment on Gaksital #27. Hope the post won't bore you.. :D. Btw, I welcome the idea of being friends on FB, it's been great talking with you too these last few weeks/months (time flies)? And FB would be a great place to stay in touch, as you know I might not drop by here as often in the future. I still have your email, so I'll send you my FB account via email. Now I can make gaksital-related status and someone would finally get it! ;)
MiSa is a good drama, and I think that was the drama that made SJS really popular in Korea. I was rather addicted to it back in the day too. But as hoochie has pointed out, it's a melo (a lot I think), so I don't know whether it'll be a good follow up for Gaksital. :)

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Hi Maya,

I sent you an email as well and a message on FB. I will read your response on Gaksital # 27, and no, I don't think I will be bored to death :-)... Thanks again for the recommendations about MiSa. They are duly noted.

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Heeeeey Ivy! How are you?
What do you think of Faith so far? The heroine is really my type, so I was thinking of watching after Gaksital and RMPW...

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Hello OTS,

Personally, I would recommend Faith. I love LMH, so I would make an effort to support his dramas and movies, as long as he is not getting totally naked (I hope I am not giving anyone any ideas :-)), that's where I personally draw the line. I will/can do chest naked, but I don't want to see anything else. Good acting/writing/directing and OST do not require that I see someone fully naked, imho.

I like seeing LMH in a different role. I see him giving his best (and he does) but I also understand why some have said that his acting at times looks wooden. His delivery line needs to improve (he sometimes acts like LMH acting and looks like, "I am waiting for you to be done saying your lines, I wait for my cues and then I go in" kind of thing, or at least it is what I have noticed.

There are scenes where he really shines imho, and his fight scenes are good, as they were in CH. In those scenes, he doesn't try to act cool, he just does what he was taught and what they rehearsed (is what it seems like to me) and that is why they work. JB mentioned the same thing about his fight scenes in CH, he didn't try to act cool during those scenes, and THAT made him (look) cool, and I agree.

That said, LMH in this role is challenging himself and I like that. He does give off that air of "I don't care, I just want to sleep all day, I carry the world on my shoulders" that his character feels and I buy that (to a large extent). I also love him with the mane of glory (which he rocks) whether it is up or on his face (I like it up better).
His face looks fuller and a little older (compare to his days in BOF and CH) and I welcome that as well. I really like his voice (I didn't always like it before) and I love it when he murmurs. there is a scene where he murmurs to the child king and oh my... It's like 2 words that he says (softly and quickly), so you have to pay attention and have headphones on to catch the difference in his voice and tone when he does that, but it is different and just... dreamy :-)...

I pay attention to stuff like that when I watch dramas which is why I become so engrossed (eventually) when I watch one. Each actor/actress is different and I like noticing the little things that make them who they are, like their voices, mannerisms, etc... There are some Korean and US actors and actresses whose voices I know by now because I just love their voices and I would recognize them anywhere, they are that unique. I used to do that when I was a teenager back home, to recognize someone's voice before they said who they were, when they would call my home (we didn't have caller ID back then), and I was good at it.

So, going back to Faith, the heroine is a hoot and well casted. I have personally liked her from the beginning and I like her acting, I have no complaints there. The 2ndary characters are also a draw in for me. I went back to my comment on the 1st recap and was surprised at how much I raved about the king (and you know me, I can do some raving :-)). I saw very early on, what many people seem to only see now. I told you, I pay attention to details:-), it's part of my MO.

So the 2ndary and 3ciary characters, I also like, a lot, and their acting is really good. There is a lot of bromance, between the king and CY (LMH), and CY and his army men (Yay). I am now realizing that Kdramas do bromance really well, it must be important in their culture. I personally like it.

I love LOVE, LOVE the OST, Oh my goodness!!!!! ALi's "carry On" and the instrumental piece at the end of the episodes (and sometimes during the episodes) is one of my favorite instrumental pieces. They have variations of it in the drama (string instruments, piano version, etc...).

All in all, I would say have low expectations going in. This is like IDID, where the characters' stories are slowly built up and are let to breathe. There are some surprises, but it is not (yet) dark and intense the way Gaksital is. I don't think it is supposed to be. If you go in relaxed (in your expectations), and willing to have an open mind, I think you might like it. I would also like to say that the king is handsome (srly, he is hot, imho) and I love Lee Phillip in it as well. I actually like almost all the male characters in this show. There is one who is annoying and you will see who he is from episode 1 :-).

I hope this helps, sorry this was long, I have a hard time doing it any other way, since this is where I can pour my heart out (DB and OT). Thank goodness you don't mind reading. What's another text to read, huh? :-). But this is about Kdramas, so it is even better, imho. Wouldn't you agree?

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@ OTS Good morning,

I am glad you are liking BM. I forgot to mention that Faith is funny, so you should be getting some laugh out of it as well :-). I hope your weekend is going well and that your trip will go well as well.

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OTS, are you watching Gaksital now? really? What do you think of it, if you are watching it? I am curious.

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I'm curious too... *Gaksital's withdrawals effect*

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Oh Maya, you have got it bad, phew... Do you think you might need therapy, at some point? :-)

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Just started, but will probably watch it properly sometime late next week when I'm back home. So far, the word I would use is 'solid'!

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I think I need a therapy a long time ago, ever since I started watching it, Iv.. :D

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Hi OTS, I left you a response here:

1.1.2.1.1 Ivoire September 8th, 2012 at 9:04 am

I posted it in the wrong place, sorry...

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@ Maya, I can understand that and why :-)

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The young king in Faith is Choi Won Hong.

He's the same boy who played Kim Hyun Joong's younger brother in Playful Kiss!

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I knew he looked familiar!!

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THAT'S who he is. It was killing me. He was great in both - I will be looking for him again.

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Thanks Lemon,

I had been looking for his info and couldn't find it on Faith info pages. I thought he was EXCELLENT in those 2 (or 3) episodes. He was just sooo good, very moving, extremely believable in his role. I also thought he was cute and adorable (and smart) in PK. Great child actor!

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Guys,

I just found out he was in Rooftop Prince as well, playing the role of the Crown Prince Lee Kak. I didn't notice him then, hm...

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Aaah, no wonder he looks familiar. I never watched Playful Kiss but I feel like I knew him from somewhere else.. Thanks Iv.

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You are welcome, Maya! I DO aim to please.

Also, I found out that "Saranghae, I love you" has videos on Viki.com. I have watched 2 or 3 segments there. It's not the whole episodes :-( but only segments of them. Probably the same things you have seen on YT. I was happy to see those and see that Viki was subbing those as well. Just thought I would let you know.

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Iv,
Wow I didn't know they've put it up in Viki already, and got it subbed. I might check it out later. I still don't think that I watch it though, maybe just the last episode to see how it all turns out. And thanks again for letting me know. You do live up to your aim.. :D

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Good morning (my time) Maya,

"You do live up to your aim.. :-)" just made my day. How are you? So I take it that you will watch it in the original language(s), right? I wish I could find the whole episodes. I am sure viki is doing its best. I hope that over time, they will be able to have the whole episodes. It would be nice to be able to check the drama out.

Are you currently watching anything or are you temporarily taking a break from Kdramas?

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Good afternoon Iv (my time :)),
Yep I would watch it raw if I decided to watch it. I would like to help with the subbing once the video is uploaded in Viki, but I don't think I can fit them in my schedule right now. I can help fill the gaps though if you decided to watch it, just let me know, and I'll try my best to mini-recap it.
I'm currently watching Faith and Arang. Both have been put on the back burner because of Gaksital and assignments. I haven't caught up to this week's episodes yet. I heard that Faith just got so good and I'm excited for that. I planned to catch up with both of them this weekend but I've been spending my times watching BTS clips from Gaksital and also 1N2D instead :D
I don't know whether I'm going to follow another drama soon though. I'm still deciding between Rich Man Poor Woman and Answer Me 1997, but I'm worried at how addictive both of them are. Especially since they already have quite a number of episodes out.

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Hi Maya,

So nice of you to offer to mini-recap the drama for me if I needed it. I will keep that in mind, thank you! I am trying to just focus on Faith right now. I haven't seen a single episode fully subbed, I have watched them raw or at 80% subbed and then read the recaps, so I know I have missed some things, because the recaps don't cover every line, and I like to understand everything. So I would like to start from the beginning again. I don't think that I will have time to marathon it, I think I might watch 1 or 2 episodes at a time, while I try and keep up with the current ones. It takes me a long time to watch an episode of a kdrama.

I have RMPW and AM1997 on my list of dramas to watch (and maybe TTBY), but I am not touching them right now. I have been meaning to lay off of dramas for a while, or at least, just focus on one or two. I think I will focus on Faith, and maybe Oohlala Spouses when it starts.

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Morning Ivoire,

Hope you are enjoying your new employment!

While I've passed on Gasitkal, I finally jumped on the Faith train. I think it helped that I could watch the first 6 episodes back to back. A little too many flying swordsmen for me, but it's definitely entertaining and I do love the main couple. I'm also wanting to see more of an interaction between the king and queen.

I also am finally starting to understand LMH's appeal! :)

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Good morning KL,

Sorry this is so late, I was reading the different posts on OT. Welcome to the Faith train and yay!!!!! for this: "I also am finally starting to understand LMH’s appeal!" Welcome to the club :-)!!!!!!

I wrote my opinion on Faith above for OTS, feel free to read it if you are interested. Gaksital is really good, but I can see how it might not be your thing. I haven't yet seen a fully (100%) subbed episode of Faith, (I sometimes watch raw and read the recap) because the subs are slow, so I would like to go back and watch the episodes fully subbed from the beginning. It makes a difference to read the dialogue as you are watching the acting and interactions.

I love the main couple when they are bickering and giving each other long glances (longing ones). I can't wait to see them fall in love with each other. I do love the king and the queen and I am looking forward to them being on the same side (and in love) instead of fighting each other.

I love Dae-man and the Wooldachi guys as well :-), oh, and Phillip(sp?) Lee.

I am still on probation for the part-time new employment, but so far, so good, I think.

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Happy OT NKB :)

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Thank you!! Happy OT to you too :D

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OMG!! I feel like I've just achieved something significant in my life!! Happy Friday everyone!! I hope you all had awesome weeks :D

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Happy OT NKB, and Happy Friday again! I do understand the feeling. Thank you for letting me tag on to you :-)...

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Happy Friday!
I, in the other hand, am not that happy, Bridal mask is over! Cry, Cry. I still have Arang and Faith so I am still breathing. And Panda and hedgehog is not that bad, either. Life is beautiful in kdrama land.

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Happy Friday, think about the new shows that will come to replace the ones we love. At least that's who I try to comfort my self for approaching ending of AM1997

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Life is indeed beautiful in Kdramaland.

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Is this THE Ricky HRH? Or a clever imposter....

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I am not sure exactly when or how I deserved a "THE" in front of my name.
But it is me, the one and only Great Master of the Vibrating Buttocks kung fu discipline.

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Yayyy! Vibrating Buttocks ftw

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You know, rtrh,toaogmotvbkf, I am not sure we ever got an explanation as to how your buttocks began vibrating.

I need an origins story.
10 points to Buttocksdor if that story contains someone with a secret identity.

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Hi Jomo, can I ask what this means/stands for "toaogmotvbkf"? (just curious)...

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@Ivoire
It is what he claimed he is:
the one and only Great Master of the Vibrating Buttocks kung fu

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IV,
toaogmotvbkf = the one and only Great Master of the Vibrating Buttocks kung fu discipline.

Jomo,
Can I just say that I was born with it?

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@ Jomo and Ricky, toaogmotvbkf

You guys just crack me up!!!! I liked how Ricky had to repeat it to make sure the last word "discipline" was included, which Jomo forgot/didn't mention.

So now I have a new question: what is "Buttocksdor?" @ Jomo, thanks.

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There's only ONE real HRH Ricky, my dear. Which might be a good thing, lol.....

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Hi Dany! Do you write poetry?

Hi Ricky TRH! I finished watching the Thailand drama Original title: Kehas See Daeng English Title: The Red Castle this week. Also started watching the Thai version of Coffee Prince, but it's not all subtitled yet.

Hi Jomo!

Hi Shel!

Hi ZgzNoona!

Hi Ahjummabunny Love!

Hi CMRPrindle!

Hi Everyone!

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Hi MJP, I missed you.
How is the family?

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Everyone is well. I am a carpool mom in the afternoon for two more exchange students, so I spend more time driving, just like Shel, I think! LOL! Plus the state government changed some legislation and now our Kteen doesn't get student bus tickets. The school is working on the problem, but I was trying to drive him to school at 7 a.m. when I was going to bed at 2:10 a.m. after taking Wee MJP to his 2 a.m. potty time (yes, he will pee the bed if I don't do it.) Thankfully, another host mom's cousin is driving Kteen to school. I'm in process of co-planning a meet and greet for the host families and exchange students, if everyone is interested.

Wah! Just busy as usual, how about you? What's happening in your life?

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Parenting is hard. You need time to sleep, you'll probably be able to catch up when Wee MJP goes to college.
I see you still have Teen MJP with you. How is the experience?
about Wee, I understand you since my sister had the same problem with the eldest. I spent some time with them back in June and they started potty training the little one too. That one learned in a matter of 3 days.
My life... I came back from Spain decided to make a lot of changes, but some how I started feeling insecure about it. But I think it is about time to start taking things seriously.

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HI MJP!!! Long time to see, talk to, whatever...

How's wee MJP and is the teen MJP still with you guys?

I hope you're all well and happy!

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Hi Shel!

We are good. I wrote a bit above. I'm late for a ladies scrapbooking meeting, NO KIDS OR HUSBANDS! So please excuse me for being a bit quick.

Yes we still have Kteen, I forgot to answer and he is doing well. He's organizing a basketball competition between the exchange students since the state doesn't allow exchange students to participate in school sports programs (sucky, but I understand why).

Like I said above, I'm doing the same thing as I read you were doing below, driving teens all over the place!!! LOL!!!

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MJP dahling!! LTNS!! How you be? How be the Wees and the Not-So-Wees?

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CHERKELL!!!!!!! I'll have to scan for your updates later so I can find out how you are doing. Are you guys still doing the Noonas night at the movies? I am so bummed that ionair.tv was shut down to North America!!! But that is old news, I know.

I've got a couple of responses above, for family updates. I gotta dash for now! TTYL!

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MJP!
I hope you are fine :)

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Ricky TRH! I am fine, thanks!

How about yourself? The Royal Family?

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I know, but it will be ok. I cure myself with the sillyness of to the beautyful you (although the word beautyful reminds me of Katsuyama...waaah) and some Ma Boy as well.
now I wanna see Gaksital characters in drag....wait, they tried and it looked off. or well, Damsari with moustache looked like a woman dressing up as a man. which is why it looked plausible that it is not Damsari.

I really want to see Park Ki Woong and Joo Won in a full lenght movie together. They must.

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Awww... We'll be okay... Me also still sad it's over... Oh hang on.... it's not over yet. They're just starting the uprising... *going into denial again*

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Shunji thought us well how to go into denial LOL

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I only learn from the best... ;)

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what denial? I deny having denial about my denial!

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Happy Friday all! Anyone watch PSY on the VMAs last night?

Anyway hope all is well with everyone. BBL!

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OMG he was at the VMA's?!!!! How in the world did I miss that?!!!!! I love PSY he is hilarious!!

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Katy Perry was positively fangirling....very cute!!

Samsung has recruited PSY & Seung-gi for their latest CF. They're going Asak Style yo. Here's a 'lil preview but it looks awesome!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUdw5vWhopc&feature=player_embedded

It's adorable since the two of them go waaaaay back when LSG debuted. PSY wrote his super-hit "Noona, you're my woman". So talented, PSY oppa! <3

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Cutest smile on LSG ever!

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Thanks Saima, for sharing this. Soo cute and funny!!! Does VMA stand for Video Music Awards? I am curious... So will PSY be in LA for the VMA?

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My daughter, who is an entertainment reporter in LA, texted me about him. I'm interested in hearing her thoughts, since he was unknown to her.

Is there a clip anywhere of it? I was out last night

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PSY w/ Kevin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dSVbzdRU_4

Performing at the VMA pre-party w/ The Wanted serving as the back-up dancers, heh:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UVJY9g_oo3A

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Oh thank you, thank you now I can continue to live on happily!

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It is crazy how this thing has just blown up all over the world. And my friends, who know my Korean obsession, have all seen this video now on the mainstream US television. Good for PSY!

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Answer Me 1997 is killing me with its awesomeness!

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Answer to 1997 myweithisway:

Would you like some awesome music to go with that?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qxqsof6CrvM&feature=related

Kekekekeke~

Argh, all these Jung EunJi and Seo Inguk feels~~

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How do you do strikeouts on this forum?? [s]like this[/s]? I was striking out 1997...

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It's like this. (remove the spaces hun)

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Just trying this out like this

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wait no...is it like this

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Wait sorry, like this.

It's , then the phrases to be struck-out, then .

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Sorry (for the final time), like this.

Use the word strike, then use the less than and greater than signs.

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Let's see... STRIKE!

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~~ooOOooh~~

Thanks!

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You're welcome. And sorry for spamming the replies. DX

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Hehehehehhe, actually, I was hoping open thread was for positive spamming, then I could try that out without bothering many. HAHAHAHHA.

But still, THANKS!!

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On repeat!

Trying to give me a heart attack aren't you?

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Tsk tsk! You have to be strong! We still haven't had confirmation of who Shiwon's baby daddy is! (Even though it's really obvious but still, y'know, this show's writer... is a total troll-master, so...)

In the words of Arang, "If you die, YOU'RE DEAD!"
You need to be around in the last episode to fangirl with me!

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Hah love the quote from Arang!

I'll definitely be around. Planning on to marathon AM1997 again after it finishes just so I can fangirl some more!

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Peeps-

Thank you for sharing this! Made my morning!

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Thanks for the video :)

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I'm just feeling the love myself:)

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This drama is my drama crack right now. Just love and adore every second of it. And unlike Gaksital I don't either bawl or want to poke my eyes out from the bloody torture.

Answer Me 1997, why so awesome?

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I like its honesty, the pacing of the story and the characters. LOVE the family unit too.
The Yoon brothers can adopt me :)

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not sure your sisters will be happy with that, or maybe they will :P

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Yes, they will. ALthough, I guess I'd be noona to all three of them.

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Noooooonaaaaa!!!

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Ricky, you know Shel just melt when reading that "noona"

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She's right about that, lol.

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[fist pump]
Mission accomplished!

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I have fallen in love head over heels with Faith..

Episode 8 is pure awesomeness.

Ki Chul... Be afraid, be very afraid, you just woke up a sleeping giant.

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You are not the only one. There is not a single character I hate, I mean I love Ki Chul even though he's evil but I like him as evil. This is also the first drama that has got me thinking "Wow Lee Min ho is hot!!" Which considering I have seen BBF and City Hunter is saying something. I mean did anyone else have dreams of him with all those chains around him.... Maybe I'm the only one that's weird....

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Oh Agatha, you got a giant LOL from me with your chain comment. You are no alone in thinking he's super hot in this. How are you so sexy, LMH?

Also loving Faith btw. It's my favorite of the new shows. Just had to fangirl over cute boys first :)

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I know right!! How is it that LMH is so sexy? I mean the man makes a dungeon sexy. I was staring at my computer like an idiot while seeing the episode!! I kinda wanted to be there with him. Seriously God was having oh such a nice day when he created him....

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He he. So true. He really is a work of art. How can a man look so good sporting that hair and those bulky costumes? Sigh. I think I need to stop watching K-dramas for a while. Real men (ie my actual husband) don't seem to measure up anymore. lol

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I really hope Ki Chul, falls in love for realz with the Doctor, and then we get to see his inner turmoil of all these years of how he worked to become the most powerful in Goryeo, but one woman, can change all that ... and it will be particularly sad too because the Doctor can't give him her heart....

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Oh ho ho!! How good would that be? If Ki Chul really did fell in love with Eun Soo, I mean it wouldn't really be love, I don't believe the man is capable of that but more like a deep obsession. Ohhh that would kinda light a fire under Choi Young's ass, I mean your nemesis wants your woman no matter the cost *squeal*..... Oh boy I think I need a cleanse from dramaland if I get exited over things like this....

Oh and Ladytron 33 I know what you mean about real men not measuring up anymore. I looked at my bf after watching the last episode and I thought "Why aren't you LMH......" Oh harsh cruel reality where all men can't be that hot....

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I watch dramas to escape harsh cruel reality! Why do I have to face the truth, huh? I just got my mom into k-dramas and rewatched Queen Inhyun's Man with her. Oh my god, I forgot how amazing Kim Bong Do is. Best. Drama. Hero. Ever. I'll take him and you can have LMH. Seems fair, right :)

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YES it is completely fair. LMH YOU ARE MINE!!!! If you will please bring along the chains, thank you...

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Hi Lang, I have a question for you: *SPOILERS ABOUT FAITH*
How can KC have so much power, much more than the king? I thought he was a count or some higher person in the kingdom, but not above the king. That was confusing to me, the fact that KC could trap the king in his own palace and kingdom. Also, who are the state guards? And how come they are above the Wooldachi? Was it because of the (supposed) betrayal? That left me confused as well... Thanks if you answer.

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Same way as Mishil could run rings around various Shilla kings - power and influence...when the king is weak, it allows ambitious people to gain more power and start placing their people in positions of power and soon enough, you have a powerless monarch...

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In Ep. 2 (I think), KC is described as the Queen of Yuan's brother, so maybe that's how he is so powerful esp. in a kingdom still politically controlled by the Yuan court.

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@ Bashful 82 and SH,

Thanks for your explanations, they helped. I didn't see Queen Seon Deok (sp?) so although I have heard of Mishil, I am not familiar with her character.

@ SH, I have watched a lot of Faith raw, because the subs are slow, so I don't always get all that is being said. I guess I will have to go read the recaps again to familiarize myself with the intrigue and understand better how things are plotted.

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History shows that Ki Chul was the brother of a Koryo woman who had married the Yuan(Mongol) emperor and become Empress Ki. Since Koryo was under the dominance of the Yuan empire, Ki Chul was enjoying the power that his sister's position brought. It is said that Empress Ki was personally responsible for influencing the Yuan emperor to change Koryo kings when she and her brother's power was threatened. This particular king in the drama is known for later gaining power and getting rid of Ki Chul and all the other pro-yuan officials from his court.

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@ avonmarissa,

Thank you! I appreciate your thorough explanation, which makes sense. When I watch a drama, I like to understand every minute of it (if it makes sense), and not being Korean or even Asian, there is a lot that I become curious about and learn along the way because of my interest in Asian dramas and cultures.
I know a little bit of the more modern stuff (20th-21st century), but extremely little of the past. I am learning and researching as I go along. It is nice that we can come here, with no fear of sounding stupid, and ask questions we might have. I appreciate that about a blog like this one.

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@Ivoire: no problem; ask away if you have any questions in the future. I am not Asian but I go nuts for Korean history, hehe. My Korean friends refer to me as "the Korean who got away", hehe. I am reading the recaps at the moment. I think I want to see how the drama ends. Some of the characters in the drama have a tragic end in history so that makes me want to hold off watching the drama. I have no tears to spare, hehe.

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@ avonmarissa,

Thank you so much. If you happen to read this message, I will always ask away, with the hope that you will come across my questions.

Speaking of which, why are the State soldiers higher than the Wooldachi, or are they? They are the ones who are confining the king and the Wooldachi. I was a little confused about that. Was it because of the "supposed" treason that they could that?

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Ivoire,

CY, the Wooldachi Leader, was accused of treason against the king, so by extension his followers were also accused of the same crime. In one of the scenes, DM sneaked into the Wooldachi's headquarters, and through their conversation we learned that they were confined and disarmed by KC's men b/c of "treason" (IIRC). Also, using treason as an excuse, KC placed the state guards to "protect" the king. Not sure if the guards are above the wooldachi -- maybe think of it as the secret service (wooldachi) protecting the president and police (guards) protecting the general public which can also include the president.

Hope this answers question :D

You can tell, I'm too invested in this show. I usually watch it without sub, while at the same time following a live recap, then a few days later go back to watch it again fully subbed. This is one of those shows which you have to watch fully subbed because the dialogues are cryptic in a way. But I love it. Also, it kind of forces me to relearn some stuff about the Mongol Yuan dynasty :p

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@ SH,

Thank you so much for your response. I really appreciate it. You watch dramas the way I like to experience mine: being totally invested, immersed, learning stuff along the way and understanding every minute (make that every second) of the show. I like that about you, that and the fact that you seem to know more and understand more than I do, so people like you can answer the questions I have.

Please, continue to be as invested as you are, because it helps me flesh out the fuzzy places for me and as I said, I welcome learning more about Korean history and the surrounding countries. We didn't cover that when I was in school (I am from Africa) and Junior High and High School for me were suuuuuch a looooong time ago, I am not sure that I would be remembering all of it.

I like to honor the drama, its writers, staff and actors (and actresses) by making an effort to understand all that they are exposing us to and all that they telling us. If they elevate the bar and elevate the level of understanding, I want to get there, so I can understand the show and learn what I need to learn in the process. I know I sound repetitive, but it is because I just get excited when I come across people like you, and there are many like that on DB, thank goodness!

A few questions for you: what does "IIRC" mean and what does that refer to? If I may ask, do you read your live recap on Cadence? (Because I do it too). The Mongol Yuan dynasty, I know nothing about. I know of the Mongol (the name and the peoples) but I am not familiar with their history, so watching this show has made me learn a few things and I know it's not over. I already know about CY and the king in wikipedia, and I know that is not enough, but it's a start. I love shows that make you think and educate you some in the process. I know this is a fusion sageuk, so I don't expect a book (page by page) follow through/repeat of history, but it is kind of neat to learn a few things along the way.

Did you notice the seal on the floor in the Wooldachi lair? I thought that was interesting. Do you think that was the seal of the kingdom or just the one for the wooldachi? (I am just kind of curious about that). What did you think was the significance of the dream? So I guess the king does have some power, since he was stamping those royal decrees at the end. Do you think? So, do you think YES knew it was CY who rescued her when she almost fell? I am thinking that she must have known that it wasn't KC, b/c he would have said something, right?

This is an aside, but I thought I would mention it: YES' roots (her natural hair color) seem to start to show, and CY (LMH)'s hands looked manicured. When I saw that, I thought "wait, he is a soldier and he deals with rough things in a rough way. Are his hands supposed to be manicured?" I don't think they had manicures and pedis back then LOL. Just a little detail, but you know, we pay attention to those kinds of things, and some of us actually notice them. LMH (and the cast) might need to let a few things go for a few months :-).

Thanks again SH, I will be looking for you on Faith recaps and here. I am not always sure where I will be. I hope that your eyes will continue to catch my questions :-)... Have a great week :-)!!!!

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Ivoire,

You're welcome! IIRC means "If I Recall Correctly". If you see acronyms you don't understand, urban dictionary is your best friend ;)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/

I've watched way too many Chinese historical dramas since I was a kid, so I remember some stuff, but I'm not that familiar with Korean history. For Mongolian history, I only know so much due to Persian art history courses I took in college - through Genghis Khan and his descendants' conquest and control of Central Asia, there were a lot of cultural exchanges that permeated from the east to the rest of central Asia and Anatolia and vice versa.

I'm a bit busy at the moment, so I can't answer some of your questions yet. But I might answer later in this thread or more likely in Faith recap threads. See you there! :D

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Hi SH,
and thanks for your response, duly noted, everything in it. I have heard of the Khan, but I would have to review that part of my history to remember what I learned. See you here or on Faith recap threads :-)...

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Agatha, no you aren't alone. Chains = thoughts, bad, dirty, happy thoughts lol. That said, that guy has just got IT, whatever it is, so he gives me a lot of happy thoughts.

I for one hope Faith will allow some grown up smoochies scenes at least. Queen Inhyun’s Man delivered, no shrinking violets there, and I hope this one will too, because seriously, if I see a mid 30's surgeon doing a bug eyed chastity kiss with General Choi I'm going to hurl and possibly throw things, and reach through time and space to find the writer (s) and director (s) and smack the silly right out of them. I mean really, she did surgery on the butt naked General, odds are she's already seen his naughty bits, not to mention a lot of people's bits over the years. They have kind of written her so we never know what Eun-soo is going to do or say, she might say "How YOU doooin, Psycho," and jump on him first and he'd be the one bug eyed.

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LOL! Yes, I can just hear her saying, "Shut up and kiss me!"

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Oh, I forgot to say amen to your comment about hurling and throwing things if she does the bug-eyed-chastity-no- reciprocation kiss. That would be wrong. Just wrong. Kay maybe SOME bug-eyedness, but only if it quickly turns into the closed-eyed-what-took-ya-so-long?-I-could-be-here-all-day variety.

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I'm not head over heals yet, but if it continues to be soo gooood it won't take me long to get there. I feel like it's finally hitting it's stride. Which in a 24 episode drama makes sense. I knew I would love Lee Min Ho's character simply because it's Lee Min Ho. But I can't believe who much I love the herione Eun Soo. She's so funny and awesome. And the king and queen are great too. Really this drama is full of awesome characters that I'm very interested in.

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Answer Me 1997 is driving me crazy!! I feel like I have never squeed so much over one show in my life!! I luff it so so much :)

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Watching Ep 13 right now and I just keep repeating scenes soooo funny lol:
Do you have a girlfriend?
How should I die?
Then it slays me in the heart:
Why was I so annoyed?
Then back to the funny:
It's not mine!!
It's mine!!!
Ha ha ha oh God show how could you be this perfect??

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Agree x 1000! Just love and adore every second of this show sooo much!

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I know! I'm going to be so sad when it's all over, but at the same time I'm dying to know how it all ends up.

Episode 13 was epic for many reasons. I really could relate to so many of their post college moments. I hate to admit that I've gotten into my car from the passenger's side before, lol. That's what you get for trying to pay back your student loans before buying a new car.

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Love, love, love it! I almost panicked because the videos have been removed from everywhere except Dramafever. Luckily I found it there, because the recaps were awesome and am dying to watch 14.

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Same! I can't wait for 14!!!

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I watched 14 twice. Once on Dramafever and once on epdrama.

The episode rules. I'll code my spoilers, though.

I think end game is pantyhose/to-be president and then chair guy/confession girl. (You won't know what that means unless you watch the episode.)

Because to-be president heard chair guy. Which means that he might back off and it would make the most sense. I would also think that to-be president is kinda creepy with the whole character background and mention of the spider book referencing.

With Episode 6 or 7 (can't remember since I marathoned the episodes) one of the two could not pick up that picture because they were on the phone. And Episode 14 ended with "Son-in-law Yoon". End game is pretty clear, though I have to question the ring shot with the caramel with extra whip cream since neither of the people in question were wearing *any* ring in subsequent episodes. If they both were wearing a ring that would make it more clear.

But I'm pretty sure of the ending now after watching 14, though I sense a break up, make up, get knocked up coming down the line... unless I've been watching too many makjang-employing dramas. Otherwise there isn't room for episode 15 or 16 to become highlights.

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14 is subbed up on Dramafever. (for those in the US and Canada)

This is my fourth time watching the episode... and I have to love the chair of truth a whole lot in this episode. *,*

Also how the cold passed on...

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OMG...YAY! I've been dying waiting for Ep 14 to be subbed. Okay, off to watch.

That's what I love about this place. I've found the best dramas and where to watch them from coming here. And I've "met" some great people. Thanks fellow beaners! I really don't know what I'd do without you all!

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Although sad that Gaksital is over, I'm excited for Nice Guy!!

Btw, is may queen and five fingers worth watching?

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May Queen so far is wonderful! It has all the heavyweight child actors like Kim Yoo Jung (young queen from Moon Embraces the Sun), Park Ji Bin (little brother from Boys over Flowers) and Park Gun Tae ( young Yeo Woon in Warrior Baek Dong Soo). They are the reason I decided to watch even though I had decided not to. They are so brilliant I'm dreading the older actors coming in as I'm afraid we'll have another Moon Embraces the Sun situation where the the younger counterparts have out-acted the older ones.

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haha! I know what you mean with the Moon embraces the sun

and actually, I would watch May Queen just for Kim Yoo Jung . She is such a cutie!

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Kim Yoo-jeong is adorbs~! I didn't even know she was that child actress in the 2007 failure of a film "Hwang Jin-i", where she acted as the child version of Song Hye-gyo.

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She was also in Tamra, the Island.

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"Five Fingers" is definitely worth watching... but I'm biased, remember? :P

Now that we've had the adult cast introduced (pardon me for a second... SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!), this ain't your run-of-the-mill makjang-fest-o-rama. Characters that seem basically scripted are turning out to be way more nuanced than anticipated. The child actors were awesome beyond belief, the cinematography is freakin' breathtaking... and there's PIANISTS!!! I cannot remember the last time classical music was featured so prominently in a drama before. I. LOVE. SO. MUCH.

And one last time: JOO JI HOON and JI CHANG WOOK!!! SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! :D

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I just may put this on my to watch list for later. I love Ji Joon and Chang Wook but dang, I don't like melo so much. :(

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oh no, is this another drama I should watch?! save me! :-)

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Yes, 5F is definitely a must watch!! You don't want to make My Precious any sadder now, ne? :(
http://tinyurl.com/d5yzq2o

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oh no!!!! Sweetie, don't cry ;-(
I'll watch your new drama, I promise!! I'll watch it ... right after Faith and Arang finish, after watching Gaksital, Vampire Prosecutor 2, Nice Guy, and ... or maybe I'll just start right now and watch them all at the same time.

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Oh noh! Here, a noona hug. *wiping tears*.

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They are both very good so far :)
I decided to watch May Queen because of Kim Yoo Jung ~ although i'm also a fan of Jae Hee.... KYJ's acting is too brilliant to ignore xD She is so friggin awesome, at such a young age at that~ she will be a force to force to be reckoned with when she is in her 20's... not that she isn't at the moment! But god all mighty if she keeps going at this pace and i hope she does continue acting for life~ she will be one of the greats :3 *fingers crossed nothing makjang happens to her career*

Five Fingers is a surprise~ I'm watching it for JJH <3 But the cinematography is so friggin beautiful and the music is pretty kickass! The only thing that was a tad bit annoying at first was JJH hair style LOL took awhile to get use to it :< Its also a bit weird seeing him play a nice guy~

OMG GAKSIIIITALLLL is no more ( ;_;) Patiently awaiting to buy the box set!!! If it doesn't come with subs~~ there will be a massive spork stabbing spree over at KBS :|
BTW does anyone know if kdrama comes in blu-ray? The only versions i've see around are Japanese blu-ray boxsets of Kdramas :( I really want GAKSIIITALLLL in HD :< Best friggin series ever!!! Definitely my #1 top fav <3

I'm super excited about Nice Guy~ but more excited about Oohlala Spouses... I really hope it will be cracktastic!!!

p.s. PKW on 1N2D please~~~ :3

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Hello and happy Friday dramabeaners!
Let's see if the OT will explode today: Vacations are over for most of students/workers now.
A lot of dramas to watch these days but for a reason I keep doing some archaeology: "Lovers" is the one I'm currently stalking.

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Happy OT Mystisith!

Yea, i missed quite a bit last OT. Oh well...

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Ah, the one where the Lee Seo-jin and Kim Eun-jeong as the reel-lead couple WAS the real couple before the break-up.

Final of the "Lovers" trilogy. And I was thinking they couldn't find any more places in Europe, so they ommitted the place. And what a pity, they could've chosen Lisbon, Madrid, Barcelona, Venice, Rome, Naples, Turin, Tuscany, Piedmont, Berlin, Bonn, Oslo, even Reykjavik, et.al XD

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Can I say how much I love those parts shoot abroad? I'm starting to be demanding: Jeju is not enough anymore! lol.

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You and me, loving Prague and the Bridge. And St. Vitelius Cathedral.

Maybe the over-all concept person is such a Euro-phile.

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Thanks to you, and your love for archaeology, I'm inform about those dramas, that I wouldn't watch otherwise :) And I might even feel curious about them ;)
Happy Friday!!

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How is Lovers?
Which one is that in particular?

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