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wont happen twice
oh good lord it did
and still nobody - wow
hello JoAnne! happy friday! i can't believe i'm second either.
You just keep tempting fate! Happy OT! Maybe this will mean good luck for you today at least :)
the reluctant/unbelieving first. love it
Good Morning JoAnne! Now I know why you went to bed early last night - to secure your place! Hope you're looking forward to a wonderful weekend!
BTW, I replied to your comment on Kakashi's page.
Good "morning" Korazy Lady! Were you able to get a few hours of sleep at least? Did you dream about KDrama? Or Seungri? He is still first :) (Seungri 1st, Lee Jun-ki 2nd and Lee Min-ho (and his hair) 3rd)
Ahh, it makes me proud! Although it has nothing to do with the post, but Seungri does seem to be getting some love now! You know an SJK post will be coming some day, but first I have to find and watch Werewolf Boy.
Don't tell LMH he's fallen to third place! I'm sure it's only temporary ;)
yes, Korazy, third place!! Still is! (but then, he holds the all-time record - so he probably doesn't care about the 24hrs one ...)
UPDATE! I just found out that Werewolf Boy opens TODAY at a theater less than 25 minutes from me! Be still my heart!
I'm heading out in a half hour to see it! Dragging my daughter along since she just finished up Nice Guy. Life is good!
Love your reply! Love your description of Seungri, too! But he's young. And stupid, haha! And can't believe you actually mentioned PSH like that - let's hope Kakashi doesn't read it!
ha! I SAW THAT!
So anyway - Good Morning, My Wondrous Beans!
I am enjoying the first of three consecutive Fridays off, leading into a block of time off from the 21st through the 2d - glorious, glorious times ahead! Full of dramas and knitting and friends and nothing else. :)
So - I finished Summer's Desire. I liked it. I loved the ending. Loved it. It was interesting to me because I started out really wanting her to get with one guy - and not the guy I expected to want - but in the end I was completely rooting for the other guy and reduced to making fun of the first guy.
I'm sad about the impending end of Full House Take 2 - but not because of the way it's going, more just because it's going to END. What a surprise this show has been, huh? So great :)
I Miss You - wow, Yoochun, you have made a fan of me. And YEH - my goodness, I haven't seen such a broken human in a long time. Is it only me that sees almost a split personality thing going on? She's completely f'ed and I think her portrayal is eerie and heartbreaking and completely fantastic. Everyone else in the show, I just love you to bits too. And the hookerish girl everyone was so afraid of corrupting Yoochun - she's doing a great job of being a tough, messy girl. I hope they develop the character more and don't leave her in the background out of fear of the fans.
CWGM? Still want to stab the moms in the eyes with forks, but my desire to stab poor mom is lessening by the minute and my desire to stab rich man increases in proportion. LOVE the motorcycle couple, LOVE the scorned wife, and yay, our resident big beautiful rich boy finally says what he thinks. Not Sung Joon - the other one whose name I NEVER remember although it doesn't mean a thing because I adore him in every thing I see. Sung Joon, you need to grow a pair, and pretty quick. I love you, but dude. Really.
The Great Seer - still have love burning steadily but I'm a couple weeks behind so I can't really talk about it.
King of Dramas - this show rocks. Anthony, I love you. But I especially love your sexy, sexy, SEXY voice. Go Eun, I love you girl. Siwon - I've always admired you from the neck down. I'm not a big fan of your music group and I often think your facial expression is vapid and unattractive. But duuuuuuuuuude...you're awesome. You have to get the joke, to play this guy. If you get the joke, it means you AREN'T the joke...which makes me like you a whole lot more.
Cheongdam-dong Alice - I watched 1 episode so far. Happily anticipating crazy. REALLY hope they play up the Alice in Wonderland aspect. Man, her oppa is a sad sack but sooooooooo cute. PSH - I like that manic aspect of Jean Thierry Cha. MGY - you are so adorable I just want to pinch your cheeks I always love you. I hope there's a twist to her decision that's coming - there's gotta be, right? It couldnt' just be poor girl goes over to the dark side but learns a lesson, right?
SCHOOL 2013. My GOODNESS. Wow. Just. SO HAPPY with this.
SCHOOL 2013. My GOODNESS. Wow. Just. SO HAPPY with this.
I KNOW!!! 2012's been a fantastic drama year, and I love that we have a show this good to end it with and carry forward into 2013. LOVE IT (almost as much as I love staring at Lee Jong-seok's lips, ha - thank goodness he's legal!)
I am so excited to go back and watch school 2013!! I hope it is as good as everyone is saying
I'm so glad you wrote what you did about Siwon! I've always thought the same, but never dared to voice it out 'cos, yunno, he's The Hunk. Or that's the general opinion anyways.
I've never watched him in anything before King of Dramas, and just thought he was cast for his abs. But man, he really goes all out, and I'm impressed with his rendition of Hyun-min. I really admire the fact that he doesn't take himself too seriously.
You're making me so jealous with all the shows you've watched. See what happens when I take time off to watch the complete season of Downton Abbey? I may never catch up
That's me, JoAnne
I knew that
I love your assessment of SiWon, btw. And I want your toffee recipe :)
I think the toffee recipe is Cher's. I'm the chocolate covered potato chips. Which I need to get cracking on.
You are right! I never got to taste those, though!
You should be able to soon ; )
Wow, between this and the actuality of seeing SJK on the big screen this week, my day has just gone from OK to fantastic, baby!!!!
a Trader will also be a Trader --> punishment follows (=falling behind).
I"m so tired and my spelling is so bad that I have to go under the name ","
Seriously, though, now that I'm spending more time studying French and listening to Korean, I find that my English words are coming out all wrong! Old brain!
I Miss You... Is it only me that sees almost a split personality thing going on? She’s completely f’ed and I think her portrayal is eerie and heartbreaking and completely fantastic
NO, you're not the only one! Yoon Eun Hye is knocking my socks off in this role - so much bitterness and vulnerability in one package is almost too much to take. And with the amount she suppresses...it's not surprising.
Another show I need to catch up on today! I have a love hate relationship with that show!
I'm thinking she needs to drink liquids all day every day, because the amount of crying and tearing up she does in every single episode (complete with red nose) ... one can get dehydrated fast that way!
wow, you guys are making me want to watch I miss you/Missing You. I hate feeling as if I'm missing out. OR as if I'm betraying my sweet Yoochun. Plus the idea of the hookerish girl....yeah, I'm so there! Might have to do a marathon on this.
KING OF DRAMAS baby
As usual, you are watching so much. I just don't have time at the moment.
Gave Cheongdam-dong Alice a try. Not sure what to make of it. I do like the manic oppa, but not too much else. Too many elements I've seen before and that I'm tired of. But I'll watch a few more episodes.
School 2013. Love it so far. So much more my thing.
I'm also watching Miss Rose (TW) and Priceless (J) on the sidelines - the former I mostly enjoyed (main couple esp.) except for ep 18 when the female lead was just annoying. (Haven't watched ep 19 yet.) Priceless is good as well, first time I'm actually liking Karina in something!
My real crack, though, has been Osozaki no Himawari (J). I think I just like slice-of-life, realistic dramas the best - I want to be able to relate and in too many k-dramas I just struggle with that (esp. with all those damsels in distress and their oh-so-superior enemies and chaebol princes). Osozaki no Himawari meanwhile is just pure awesomeness. Never was much interested in Ikuta Toma, but let's just say the slightly older Ikuta works so much better for me! And I like his female counterpart in the drama, the fact that they are such awesome friends while Ikuta's character is school-boyishly in love with some other woman (who is only annoying). Liking all the other second guy leads too, Junichi is so funny (and sweet with his high school crush), Hiroki is such a sad puppy! I have a feeling there will be loose ends when the drama finishes, because it won't be possible to resolve all the love pairings (and triangles) but then I don't think romance is the most important part of that drama. Mostly rooting for Jotaro & Kahori, and Junichi & Sayori (because he so likes her, and she is so misplaced in her marriage). And that Hiroki finds someone who deserves him.
I will add that one to my list, Alua! I have time for the dramas because I am not in school, like so many of you, and I don't have multiple family members to take care of or interact with on a daily basis, like many others of you! My job is challenging but doesn't often require more than 40 or 45 hours of work, my home is small and my housekeeping standards are shoddy, my daughter is fairly self-sufficient and not often home, and my parents take care of each other! My friends and I are also neighbors so we tend to see each other a lot on the fly, I actively avoid shopping and pay most bills online anyway, and there you have it. Pleeeeeeeeeeenty of time for dramas.
"my housekeeping standards are shoddy" - that made me giggle.
Sounds like your life is going very smooooooothly. :-D
haha. I also have plenty of time for dramas. I have cleared my days of unimportant things like cleaning and shopping and talking. hehe
I second Osozaki no Himawari! it's really cute and nice and deals with really important questions in a delicate low-key manner. I hope they will manage to end it well and resolve at least some of the relationships...
Glad someone else is watching and enjoying Osozaki no Himawari! I love the low-key manner of things and the fact that romance isn't the most important thing at all, but that really it's about all things in life.
I'm going to give Osozaki no Himawari a go.
It's awesome. Let me know what you think!
Happy OT Joanne! ^^
I miss you is ths show to watch/read recaps. I"m glad you have become a Yoochun fan. Yay!
How do we know this is not ivoire playing a trick on us hmm? :)
How do we know this is not ivoire masquerading as joAnne hmm? :)
Oops sorry for the repeat !
My French would be much worse than hers - ask me something in French.
But it's easy to pretend to have poor French !
would Ivoire be able to maintain the ruse long enough to have THIS many one-sentence replies?
Enz a un point la.
Hmmm ..... Bonne point?
@jomo, very funny
hello everyone! happy ot!
thanks to all who gave me hair advice last week on the ot thread, and especially to pogo! i've been tying a scarf to salvage my dog-ate hair and it works! i may actually look better than before my disastrous haircut!! (ooops, did i just say that?!)(self-praise is underrated nowadays.)
There is no problems, only solutions! :)
Also, a reasonable dose of self-praise is healthy: Charity begins at home.
Damn, I'm getting too philosophical... Quick, let's go back to Dramaland and its strange Alice-esque world.
hello mystisith! you sound like you're loving Alice in Cheongdamdong! or am i wrong? i really love moon geun-young, but right now, i'm watching it for park shi-hoo. love his laugh-out-loud antics!
and on that note, am i the only one who thinks that park shi-hoo's cha seung-joo character bears some similarities to secret garden's kim joo-won?
both are on medication, jaded about ladies, callous to them, and think that m-o-n-e-y is all that matters. and again, it is the story of a unprivileged, upbeat girl who's gonna change the perspective of the male lead while capturing his heart.
About Alice, I'm 50/50: Some things that I love like the critics of materialism and gold digging attitude, some things than I hate (workplace torture and badly written main female character). PSH's character is a copy and paste of Kim Joo-won in SeGa, no doubt about that. Which is quite ironic since the original KJW loved his fairytale books. ^^ I'm curious about Seung-jo's past, that's for sure.
wow, sharp observation there! i forgot about KJW's shelf of fairytale books.
but somehow, despite being so repetitive, Seung-jo's character's still the one i'm most interested in. maybe it's a tried and tested formula for success. or i'm just attracted to callous guys.
Mystisith, once again I bow to your drama watching ability! I don't know how you can watch so many and then have your brain function properly :)
@KL: Is capability of watching dramas intensively considered a Super Power? Maybe I should register somewhere...
Hey bb! I'm glad to have helped, and great that the scarving works for you!
Good morning to OT followers!
I want to jump in here and give a big "Thank You" to the Dramabeans staff for another year of recaps, hand-holding, and tissue-giving. I really appreciate the hard work that Javabeans, Girlfriday, Gummi, Heads, and Kaedejun do for us drama addicts.
Very thoughtful. I would follow your lead and add my heartfelt thanks too.
oh yes. Second that. Thank you! What would we be without you!
Completely agree. Thank you to the DB team for fueling my drama love
I thank Drama Beans for great reviews, interesting articles, and many new friends! Where else would I find fellow Que Sera, Sera lovers? (haha, my weekly shout-out!)
Where else indeed! If not for the ratings on DB that made me notice it and the occasional raving of it from fans like yourself, I would have missed this gem too. And THAT is MY weekly ode to que sera sera. Hee hee
Although I am going off Eric now that I found out his ideal woman is a 170 cm urbanite. Not even with heels will I ever be his ideal woman height, even though it goes without saying that I MUST be a match for him otherwise. Don't nyone be rolling eyes now
Hi Korazy and Enz!!!! whaaahaha. I'm late again, but I'm here for the weekly "Que Sera Sera Shout Out!" :D. What's this about Eric's ideal type? grrr. who is she. I hate her.
A big kamsa hamnida from me!
So sweet. :) We love you guys!
Heee, me too :D
Really, really, really thank you for everything you've done for us drama beans.
Can't imagine how to live my life properly without you. Your recap save feed my drama addictive, enough to have a proper sleep between work and me time.
Big hug. GBU
Very random and silly question so feel free to ignore.
Do you watch a drama in one go, (i.e. saving them until the drama is completed and then watch them soon after each other) OR do you watch them as aired, week by week? Is there really much of a difference between the two?
I only ask because my habit has always been to 'save' episodes of dramas and then watch it in one go over a couple of days. However recently I have been watching dramas as they air, mainly so that I can join in discussions but I find that I don't like this way so much. I find myself not as immersed in the world of the drama which might be due to the cooling off period each week. Also watching more than one drama simultaneously means that my attention is divided so that my musings tend to flit about rather than remain focused on the issues raised in one drama. I find that the flow of the drama, that slow build up then escalation reaching culmination and then explosion or implosion in some cases becomes disjointed if I watch it as aired.
In contrast I find that I prefer watching my American/English shows one episode per week, and a few series at the same time, to kind of break the monotony of the themes running through each. As much as I enjoy joining in discussions, I think I will return to my old ways since I much preferred the 'drama experience.' Is this even a thing or is this just me?
Sabah, omg, it's EXACTLY the same in my case! I used to marathon (and wait patiently until I could), but I changed my viewing behavior this summer (I think it was AGD that did it). Also because of the interactions (on here, mainly)
But I also feel that I am less pulled in this way. There's is more of a distance to things and I think it also makes me more critical.
Thank you so much for replying. I just couldn't work out if I was being funny/weird/high maintenance! I kept telling myself, 'it's all in your head,' but I just couldn't shake this feeling that dramas weren't pulling me like they usually would. Though it means not being able to join in discussions, only reading them afterwards, I think I would return to my old ways.
I can't help but think that if the dramas were really excellent right to the end, that it would be as engaging to watch it as it aired. For example, when I first watched coffee prince this year and it gave me such a happy buzz for weeks on end.. I wondered how wonderful it must have been to be caught up in its magic when it aired in 2007. So for me, I really think that if that hasn't happen with any of the dramas that I watched as it aired, it's because they haven't fully delivered. I LOVED NG right to almost the end and while appreciative of the acting overall, am disappointed with the last few episodes. As you said below, the characters' motivation and actions-reactions didn't ring true anymore. They were like being forced to make more of everything and it became difficult to buy it.
"I really think that if that hasn’t happen with any of the dramas that I watched as it aired, it’s because they haven’t fully delivered." Excellent point! I think that is very true. I too watched NG as it aired and didn't feel any dip (until nearer the end.) However it was a thriller/mystery genre so that it needed to keep that pace tight and sharp. Still, I completely agree that recent dramas lack the detail, dialogues and depth (further diluted with extensions) to keep that buzz afloat all the way to the end.
If the drama is good, it is worth a double time investment. My time investment is in direct proportion to how much I love a drama. For a favorite drama (Queen In-Hyun's Man, for example) I do this:
- Read the recaps and soompi
- skim the raws
- watch the episodes as they are subbed
- read reviews and wax poetical in the forums
- marathon the whole thing when it is all over and I am in withdrawal
- "sell" the drama as a must-watch to family members so I have an excuse to watch it again.
- buy the DVD for my children to inherit, LOL
For a drama that is good, but not on my all-time best list (SeGa, for example):
- read the recaps (domo arigato Dramabeans)
- watch subbed eps as they come out
- marathon the whole thing at a convenient time, to get the full flavor
For a bad drama (Dr. Jin, for example, or Ooohlala Dysfunctional Spouses):
- read the recaps and laugh. I am mean enough to take especial delight in horrible endings.
Whoa! I feel as though I have been so disrespectful to dramas all these years. Truly the courtesy you show them is outstanding! Very impressive, you are like the goodwill ambassador for Kdramas. hehe.
I nearly spit out a mouthful of coffee laughing at your "buy the dvd for my children to inherit" statement.
i watch them as they air, primarily because.... I HAVE NO SELF CONTROL! and i just can't wait to find out what happen, even for the most mediocre of dramas.
i understand what you mean that the attention is divided when one watches too many dramas, which is why when there's a drama that i really love, i'll drop all other dramas i'm watching so that i can immerse myself totally in that world it has set up, think about the characters, possible plot developments over the week until the next episode airs. sounds a lil' intense, but i really enjoy obsessing over it.
speaking of which, it's been a long time since i found a good drama that can take up all my attention. there's none this year actually... i really wanted to like Big, Faith, A Gentlemen's Dignity, but they just weren't obsessively good...
Oh good, the other side! Hehe. Seriously, thank you for replying, as I wanted to get broad range of views.
I see your viewpoint and I think you are correct that watching more than one is where I am going wrong. I actually think intensity is good because it makes you passionate about things. Better that than being bored of life.
I would agree that this year has had more than average disappointments BUT I would say there have been quite a few surprises too, SUFBB, Gakistal and AM1997.
i haven't watched all the dramas that you've mentioned above! maybe that's why my year's mediocre. i've been picking all the wrong dramas! :(
You know JB's has never guided me wrong in regards dramas. I mean on the whole. The only time I defied her choice this year was when she decided against 'Fashion King' and I went ahead and then banged my head against a wall for pretty much all of it! hehe.
Seriously though, I find that the ones she loves, I love and the ones she is wary of, aren't so good. It's not just about watching whatever she recaps but for instance with Faith and Big, though she did recap them, her recaps pointed out the failings and her assessment of them was accurate enough for me to leave them. Also tune into her podcasts because you get a better idea of the strengths of the dramas as well as her opinion on dramas she isn't recapping.
Of course JB and you and I are all different people with our own idiosyncrasies, so that I'm not advocating following blindly. However on the whole I find that she won't guide you wrong. On a personal note the highlights of this year for me were, SUFBB, Queen In Hyun's Man, Answer Me 1997, Gakistal, HOSM, Arang and Panda. I would humbly advise you to find someone with whom you find affinity, respect their opinion and have similar tastes and follow their lead in terms of what to watch. It saves time, trust me.
Were there any dramas that brought you joy this year? If not, what would you say are you top three dramas of all time, maybe I or others here could recommend something for you. : )
I think we had an embarrassment of riches this year, truthfully - QIHM, SUFBB, AM1997, NG, Arang, AGD, Padam Padam, FHT2, What's Up, CWGM?, INR2012, HSOSM, and now IMY, KofD, and School 2013. Not all of these were perfect, of course, and we could wish for better endings in a couple places...but all have broken molds, all have provided pretty intense experiences for the viewers who loved them, and all remain shows I don't hesitate to claim having loved. And if it were just for me I'd be putting Faith on that list too because I LOVED the OTP and the side characters, but I know the show itself had flaws.
Looking at this list, I would have to say that for me, SUFBB was perfect. Nothing to change. AM1997 and QIHM run close behind.
AH! How could I leave Gaksital off that list! That one goes in my top 4 with SUFBB, QIHM, and AM1997. Ok, make it top 5 with AGD rounding out the list.
I think almost all dramas that I did not like I dropped after the fourth or fifth episode except for That Drama That Will Not Be Named that was a cult favorite for a few years and I convinced myself that it just had to get better since so many liked it while it was airing.
LOL!!! Loved this: "no self-control"
Woman, that is sooo true. I kind wish i had self-control enough to wait until 4 pm to watch my dramas. But nooooooo...once the subs are in, it doesn't matter what the heck I'm doing. I have to watch NOW.
It depends, really - if I'm into a drama that's currently airing, I watch it week-by-week, but save two episodes at a time to watch on the same night - I did this with Arang, and the squee was as strong as it would have been had I marathoned it after it aired.
On the other hand, Western shows, I like to watch them in blocks of 2-3 (max, 4) episodes at a time - can't do the full marathon (too crazy!) and can't do the one-at-a-time either! I suppose this is why I like British shows, shorter seasons = much easier watching!
So it is me! hehe. Thank you for sharing your views, because this is more than just curiousity. I want to understand myself better through my actions. Thank you. I guess if you didn't find a difference then it is something about me that does.
I too like the shorter seasons for British shows BUT it seems like I have been waiting for Sherlock Holmes season three forever!
re: Sherlock, you'll be waiting till 2014, bb - Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman are too busy doing The Hobbit and Star Trek to solve THAT CLIFFHANGER until then!
(I won't lie, the wait is killing me too!)
NOOOOOOO!!!! What? I think I'm going to cry...
Thank you for letting me know.
I'm happy I watched Arang week by week because I felt the flashbacks were a little too frequent (actually it's the first time I've thought that about any drama, that's why I'm pointing it out), sometimes referring to a scene at the beginning of the same episode (I was like, do they think I'm a goldfish with a five-second memory?). And I loved replaying my favourite scenes every two episodes, whereas I rarely ever rewatch anything when I'm marathoning :D
The too-many-flashbacks was also a problem with Nice Guy's later episodes (I legit wondered if live shooting had left them with not enough time to fill the 60+minutes they needed, and that was why they used the flashbacks).
With Arang, I did a mini-rewatch of episode 1-18 the week before the final two episodes aired, and found I loved it just as much - that show just has my heart. And yeah, marathoning means I frequently forget what happened in which episode - with weekly following-along, that NEVER happens!
Doesn't KoD put an interesting spin on your drama watching now? Hey, if you need to fill in time, put in flashbacks! I will never look at dramas in the same way again. (If you haven't watched it, you should at least watch episode 1. It's eye opening!)
KoD is tainting all dramas for me. I can't help but ponder over 'split blood' and difficulties as well as absurdities that might have arisen in producing things I love.
Very true, I can still remember which scene in which episode of Arang made me squee! CPR Kiss! Confession 1! Confession 2! Bare Shoulder Teasing!
I didn't watch Nice Guy but I definitely wondered if Arang needed the extra minutes filled in too, although not to the point where I got really frustrated, thanks to the drama being very solid on all fronts.
@sweetcloud: trust me, it was MUCH worse in Nice Guy - it felt like one-third of the footage of the final 2-3 episodes was made up of flashbacks from the previous episode. Which was a shame, because it was a good drama.
"I was like, do they think I’m a goldfish with a five-second memory?" Hehe, LOL.
"I’m really excited for the Hobbit movie, though. Did you watch the Lord of the Rings movies?" I just asked another online friend about the Hobbit and LotR and her reaction was 'meh' about it all SO this just made my day! Yeah, I'm really looking forward to it AND I might just go to the cinema to watch it. Do they still serve popcorn? Hehe
"Gaksital was rather slow and some parts... could get draggy and the romance part in SUFBB spoke more to me." I didn't mind the 'talky' parts so much, but yeah, I most likely won't watch those parts again when I watch the drama again. As for the romantic parts of SUFBB, it was my least favourite part IF I had to order my favourite parts of SUFBB. Hehe. I think because I am going through a period of misanthropic tendency but just as a boy/girl relationship, the manner they connected and developed a relationship felt organic and wholesome. Very sweet. I think my favourite aspect of the drama was Ji Hyuk's loss and healing AND of course that profound end.
At the moment 5th Jan remains in a bubble that I intend to pop around 5mins before I lay sight on my bank manager. Yeah I know...
I too felt that disconnect running through NG, I just couldn't line up motives to actions either. School has me interested, very interested. I like Nam Soon's characterization and can relate to him a lot. The set up of the world is well done too. Do add it to your mountain of a list which is probably making your assignment pile like a molehill, though of course in this case the molehill out ranks the mountain due to weight! Wishing you well and much needed strength!
I'm looking forward to The Hobbit, but I don't think I'll watch it until January because I want to see it in Britain's biggest theatre and will be away for the holidays.
I really really really really hope they'll still be screening it there in January, because at the moment it's only listed until Jan 3rd and I'm back Jan 8th only!
Have watched The Lord of the Rings a gazillion times - I have the extended version on DVD. I'm going to miss our four main hobbits in The Hobbit though - Martin Freeman doesn't quite do it for me.
Yeah, I was 'less enthusiastic' about Martin Freeman as well but the trailer actually turned me around. He seems to fit the role well.
OK confession time, how many times have you marathoned all three films, extended cuts version? It's like a New Year's tradition at our house. We always miss the fireworks but at least we wake up in the new year without having made any resolutions.
Martin Freeman fits the role well, but he's still not Elijah (whose films I grew up with). But I'm sure I'll still enjoy the Hobbit aplenty.
Well, sadly I've always split any Lords of Rings watching over three days... but that's because I have always seen them by myself. I need to find someone who is willing to marathon them all at one go with me! I wish that were a New Year's tradition at my house! That sounds just awesome. How many of you do this?
One cinema in London is doing a Lord of the Rings marathon for December 31st, but they are only doing the cinema version.
Ah, Elijah of course. Where did he disappear to?
I think that is true, you need people to marathon it with you because otherwise the sheer length of it would be too much. You support each other and thereby gain a shared momentum. Well, at our house it used to be that it started with the five of us and our cat and then diminishes to just me and my cat, hehe. However since my cat's passing it has been left of the people of the house to maintain this tradition and the years have brought varying successes.
Oh wow it would be wonderful to watch it on the big screen but then I wouldn't have my blanket nor footstool nor mountain of snacks! You should totally start your own tradition! Seriously!
I always get a happy feeling when I see a comment from you for me!
I just had to comment because of what you said about LOTR movies rewatch during New Year! We always do the same with Christmas, I've seen the movies at least 7 times ( ever since I was 12 and my parents allowed me to)! It only gets better every time. I was too young to see the movies in the cinema at te time, but this time I can enjoy the beauty on a big screen! Will comment more on what you said later when I've more time! Have a nice evening!
Don't feel obliged to reply, only if you have time. Studies come first and foremost! That's so cool. Actually I know a lot of people that have a tradition of watching the movies during the holidays, there's just something about them. Maybe it's kind of like a hibernation, sitting for so long in one place, with the cold outside and cosying up with the blanket inside, with all the family. I don't know.
Wow, you were 12! Now I feel really old. Funny story, I took my younger brother to watch the first movie at the cinema and when it finished on the cliffhanger he turned to me and asked, is that it? I was astonished that he didn't know and then informed him that there were two more movies and that they would come out one per year. He face was priceless and I still remember how frustrated he looked. Hehe.
Out of the three I think I enjoyed watching the second the most at the cinema, on that big screen as well as that shot of Gandalf falling which just looked amazing! Any parts you are particularly fond of? Characters?
I love hibernating! With blankets, snacks and cosyness the holidays feel complete!
Haha, I would be very annoyed too if I'd had to wait very long for the next movie to come out. Luckily by the time I was allowed to watch them, they were all already out! I remember being completely baffled and overwhelmed the first time. The whole world, all the (heroic) characters, the fear that something bad would happen. I just love every character, but I love Aragorn especially! He's so handsome and brave. And that part where Gandalf falls must be so impressive on the big screen! I was already in tears just watching it on the telly. But that part where he returns, in shining white is one of my favourites. Also, the scenes where they are all together and bantering around are also my favourites, hehe. And that part where they are in the dwarf cave and one of the hobbits sits on that well and knocks over a bucket which leads to that drumming sound and the monsters waking up gets me chills every time! And every time Sam comes to rescue and help Frodo, he's such a good friend! Ah, there are just too many great scenes!
And the molehill is definitely outweighing the mountain, haha! I like your analogy. But I'm really considering to start watching School anyway, cause I need something to outbalance my stress and NG is not really doing that. And I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who feels disconnected with NG!
I wanted to share something that happened yesterday because it's such a great step forward for me. I had another big presentation (even bigger and more-weighing than the last one) and it went so good! I think it's my best presentation to date. I was pretty nervous before I had to start (actually the whole day already a little), but when I had to speak it felt like after a while my nerves just fell off! And I could speak so freely and look people in they eyes and make hand gestures! That never happened before, I usually stay nervous until the end and only feel relaxed when it's all done and over, but not this time. It felt great and now I feel like sharing it with everyone. There may actually be hope for me, maybe I'll start liking it eventually, haha.
First of all, a huge round of applause, standing ovation and big display of fireworks for your presentation. Not just because it went well but the milestone in talking in public that you achieved. Very commendable and noteworthy, you should be very happy!
I remember when my friend went through a rough patch she sent me this email titled, 'I wish I was a bear,' and went on to lament the benefit of hibernation and staying away from the coldness of people and the world. I too associate hibernation with good things and when I wrap up warm it makes me feel really good!
I loved that well scene too. Just scary and funny! Every actor really embodied their character so that even though it was so far from reality it felt very real. The visual effects were just outstanding. My all time favourite scene is when Sam explains to Frodo why they need to continue, the whole, 'there is good in this world and its worth fighting for' speech. Awesome and I quote it a lot. I mean a lot!
About NG, I won't say too much because I want you keep you in a vacuum so that your anticipation doesn't incline one way or the other, but there are reasons it didn't make it onto my top five dramas of 2012 list, which is pretty much complete now. You show me yours and I'll show you mine. : ) Start school (the drama not place of education hehe) as the first two episodes have me very much invested.
Thank you so much! You brought a big smile on my face :) I'm really happy. I'd already abandoned the hope that I will ever get good in public speaking a bit. I mean it did get better, but it took so long to not feel like running away every time I had to do a presentation that I thought that this was kind of the end point for me. I hadn't realized that my progress could go further than that and maybe become relaxed while speaking someday. This gave me new hope and also made me feel better about myself.
Ah, sometimes I wish I was a bear too! Just eat a lot and then sleep in a nice warm place, what else is better than that?
Yeah, that scene is so great! It gets me teary-eyed every time. I just love Sam, he keeps believing in Frodo even when he doesn't believe in himself anymore. Every should have a friend like that. Very quotable, indeed. Are there any other scenes that provide quotes for you? And speaking of quotes, did you already used the 'hope-quote' in your project?
Thanks for not saying too much, it's much appreciated. Though I couldn't cut myself off completely and heard snippets here and there about the ending, I still know not much. But I'm thinking it will take a while before I finally finish it. I have to gather my courage to brave all the misery.
But I watched School! (haha you comment about 'starting' made me laugh). I got a lot of work done today and to reward myself I watched the first episode. I already like Nam Soon a lot and the vibe of the episode really spoke to me. All the characters feel very real. I now already connected more to the characters than in 14 episodes of NG. It was a nice break from my studies. Going to watch the next episode when I'm done typing! Sometimes I like dramas (or series in general) that take place in high school less because of that setting. I'm very glad I'm out of there and feel like I can't connect to their problems anymore. But SUFBB proved it can be good in that setting and School is looking like it might too. How is the high school setting for you?
Haha, I'm curious to your list so I'll tell you mine! On 1 is Gaksital as you already now, but very close on number 2 is SHUFBB. On three is Queen In Huyn's Man, four is probably Arang and the Magistrate and on five is Vampire Prosecutor 2, even though I liked the second season less than the first. Nice Guy probably won't make it, as I'm becoming less and less emotionally invested. If the rest of School is as good as the first episode it could beat VP2... If I had time to watch History of the Salaryman and Panda, they could be on the list, cause I heard good things about Salaryman that indicate it could be a drama I'd love and Panda seems very cute and warm-hearted until where I've watched far. If White Christmas hadn't aired last year, it would definitely be on the list too!
I'm glad that you have now realized that you shouldn't limit yourself by your own estimation and expectations. Most things in life just need practice and a little confidence but most of all practice. Keep putting yourself 'out there' and I am sure you would surpass even your grandest hopes now!
Hehe, apparently my sister thinks I have taken the philosophy of the bear too deeply... I kind of need to wax my legs but in my defence I find it very annoying hearing it from her because she has a total of three hairs on her entire body AND it's winter so I'm not going to wearing any short. *ahem* sorry.
Yep, I added your quote to the handout and next week Hope is the human emotion we are going to cover, so I intend to start the lecture with it. Thank you once again, it is the perfect introduction. Me and my sister tend to quote movie lines to each other a lot, at very random moments. The other 'most used one' is 'If you want him, come and claim him!' which we use for the last doughnut etc... hehe. On a personal note there are a few others, but I like these two from the books, "I do not love the bright sword for it's sharpness, nor the arrow for it's swiftness, nor the warrior for his glory. I love only that which they defend" & "Not all those who wander are lost"
"I now already connected more to the characters than in 14 episodes of NG." Exactly! Well, whenever you finish NG, we can discuss it, so no rush. Nam Soon is just heart breaking and beautiful, something attracts and appeals to me immensely. Lee Jong Suk seemed so familiar to me, so I checked out his bio but I haven't actually seen any of his other dramas. Strange, I just can't figure the familiarity out. Anyway, I looked up his mini drama 'when I was prettiest' which actually led me to another mini drama called 'ordinary love' which I am loving. It's only four episodes, and I'm only half way there but I love the detailing. So maybe the familiarity was just fate in disguise. hehe
" I’m very glad I’m out of there and feel like I can’t connect to their problems anymore." I understand. I actually watch way too many dramas/movies/fiction set in school for something in her mid thirties BUT I think because it was such a 'traumatic' time for me, for various reasons. It's like the film 'Peggy Sue Got Married,' I want to go back just so I might live through it better. Not in a revenge or fantasy context but rather just taking the wisdom I have now and using it then, kind of like a head start. I feel the loss of opportunities greatly but I say that as someone who doesn't believe in 'what ifs' I completely trust fate BUT I think it is the root reason for my love for school/college stories. How about you, is there any setting that attracts you?
Aw, thank you for sharing your list. I agree the list depends a lot on what you managed to watch. However I find doing a top five list of the year easier than an 'all time list' which just short circuits my brain. My sister and I tend to just ask each other 'what do you prefer, A or B, questions which kind of indirectly manages to create all time lists BUT sometimes my head just implodes too. Hehe. My list is 1. SUFBB, as you know 2. Queen In Hyun's Man (I loved the premise and characterizations) 3.Answer me 1997 (school and what not!) 4. Gaksital 5. HOSM. (I would put Arang very close after and if KoD doesn't nose dive then that a runner up too.) It's not that I don't love the rest, but our own histories, idiosyncrasies and curves of our hearts just incline us one way or the other. Every act and thought of our past presenting itself shamelessly for all to see and understand. I have always felt that lists, reviews and criticisms say very little about the objects of dissection themselves and actually reveal far more about the critic. That's why sharing is always so very personal and private. Once again thank you for taking the time to talk to me. I truly am grateful for it.
Haha, I like your way of taking the bear analogy! I tend to do the same ; ). It's such a hassle and it's winter anyway!
I hope the group will like the quote! I still feel very honoured, hehe.
I have the same feeling of familiarity with the actor, but I didn't see anything he's been in! Maybe he just has one of those faces or looks like someone else. And Fate's leading the way once again ; ). I was pleasantly surprised by two familiar faces from White Christmas; I'd already kinda forget who the cast was.
I totally get your take on the high school setting. My high school period wasn't one of the nicest (understatement), so I sometimes wish I could go back with what I know now, like in that movie. But on the other hand I'm so glad I'm at uni now and don't have to see those people anymore that I never want to relive that time again. When I watch a high school drama I always feel a little melancholy. Not that I miss that time and want to go back, but in that I wish I could have had such a nice time with such nice people. I kinda like that Nam Soon in School is a bit of an outsider, but still stands up if someone is not being treated good. I think that says a lot for him. Speaking of School, I watched the second episode too and I still really like it. The high school setting is not putting the drama down for me, so that's a good thing. I love the portraying of the characters, they're already very layered and multidimensional. Hopefully that's an good indication of what's to come!
I like the college setting though, because of course I'm in college myself. Which leads to the characters being older and more resembling my own age and conflicts. Age is also a factor in me connecting to characters. It's not always the same, but I tend to connect easier with characters that are close to my own age, which makes sense cause they have to same way of experiencing and certain resembling conflicts. If a character is a lot younger than I am, it may cause some problems cause I can't seem to connect to the conflicts and way of experiencing. It's a bit hard to explain, and I'm probably being confusing, but how does the age of a character work for you?
I always love a medieval setting, not sure way. Probably the whole romanticised aspect of knights and princesses. When I was young other girls had playmobil stuff like hospitals, zoo's and houses, but I had this castle, dragons (a red and a green) and a lot of knights. So I haven't changed much in that aspect, haha.
Those are some really beautiful quotes! LOTR offers a lot of quote material. Like "You shall not pass!", is a good one and often used. And it's always very funny to take a quote out of it's context and then use it in your own way. I do that with my mother all the time, so now our conversations are a mixture of our own sayings and those we gathered from different sources. Not very understandable for others, my dad sometimes doesn't understand one word we're saying! My mother also has the habit to confuse certain terms or names with others. For example she once called the singer of Snow Patrol Gary Lightfoot instead of Lightbody. I found it so funny that I started saying it and now whenever we talk about it we call him that way, hehe.
Yes, sharing lists is a personal thing. So thank you for sharing : ) I too find it easier to just pick the top 5 of a year than of all times, my brain is incapable of doing that! That A or B approach is a good one!
"I have always felt that lists, reviews and criticisms say very little about the objects of dissection themselves and actually reveal far more about the critic. That’s why sharing is always so very personal and private." I completely agree with you. It's like you position yourself a bit vulnerable if you say what kind of things you like, cause it's says so much about you as a person. On a bit of a side note, sometimes critics give a negative response to a movie/book/anything of a specific genre and then base that negative response on something that is inherent of that genre. Like a romcom movie being too shallow, but that's what the romcom genre is. In such cases I feel that the critic is basing himself too much on his own preferences (which of course are the heart of a review), and not being or trying to be objective. If I'd review a horror movie, they'd all get a bad review simply because I don't like the genre. That's why I'd never become a horror movie critic. Did you notice this too and what do you think about this? Or didn't you notice it at all?
I have to thank you too for taking out time to reply. But the pleasure's all mine, since I very much enjoy our conversations. So much that I start rambling at times! ; )
" I still feel very honoured" You should. Sometimes I feel that you underestimate yourself. A lot.
"I have the same feeling of familiarity with the actor, but I didn’t see anything he’s been in!" Exactly. So it's not just me. I thought maybe he reminded me of Yoon Shi Yoon but the connection is stronger than 'reminds.' Hmm.
" But on the other hand I’m so glad I’m at uni now and don’t have to see those people anymore..." That's exactly how I feel. I wouldn't put anyone through that, especially myself, again. I think that's why I like school dramas because most of the time, even though people suffer, they come out of it better than I did. I didn't really heal until I was in my mid twenties, but its all water under the bridge and I try to live myself in the present because it's impossible to live it in the past.
" I kinda like that Nam Soon in School is a bit of an outsider, but still stands up if someone is not being treated good. I think that says a lot for him." This is what bugs me the most. Even though I know I was going through difficult stuff, so an excuse if you will, I didn't stand up for people worse off than me AND I truly regret that. I wish I had been stronger.
"I like the college setting though..." Did you manage to watch Orange Days? It has that college setting and mood. The other college fiction that I love is 'Dazed and Confused' of course I don't condone the drug etc but it really captures those issues which most feel as they enter adulthood; that push of family/community & the pull of making a path for yourself. What college dramas/films have captured that college spirit for you?
"...but how does the age of a character work for you?" I think I do understand where you are coming from. In all honesty I don't think age has ever affected me in fiction as I tend to look more towards the movements of a character's heart to see if there is any affinity. I think maybe I am like that because when I was younger I went through a lot and spent more time with older people AND now that I am older because I am single, I tend to hang around with younger people rather than people my own age who are married with children. I'm guessing of course.
"I always love a medieval setting" Hehe, that's wonderful. I can understand that in a way. I love the black and white of it, it seemed a simpler time, though of course my interpretation is very much romanticized. Do your inclinations lean towards conformity to history OR the need to mess up the norm and bring about change, for instance the princess who wants to be a knight! "...Lightfoot instead of Lightbody...." Hehe, thank you for sharing such a beautiful story. I just love that you have this with your mother. It's truly precious.
"Did you notice this too and what do you think about this? Not as detailed with you BUT I did note it too. For instance depending on where I would read a review I can guess what rating a movie would get. If I go to the 'art critic' then commercial movies won't do well but if I go to the entertainment section then art movies tend to do poorly. It's weird because I find that people, on the whole, don't work that way. I just can't predict what a person will think of a movie/book/drama, no matter how well I know them. I recommend things but always gingerly. I guess it has to do with the myriad of moments that make up a person's life or nurturing coupled with the intricacies of our nature too. How about you? Do you find that you can recommend things accurately for people? I do find that a few people 'get me' but very rarely do I meet people 'like me' but when I do I watch everything in their movie/drama collection and read all their books. Where do you go for recommendations?
Please write as often and as much as you wish, I love it BUT please also put your studies before me. : )
Ah, yeah that's something I tend to do a lot. I guess I need confirmation before I can say something good about myself, it's so much easier to point out my lesser characteristics, hehe. Being told most of my school-life that I'm weird and unlike-able by classmates and people I thought were friends, was not very healthy for my self-esteem, I think that's where my need for confirmation comes from. I often think I cannot do something or am not good at something unless I prove the opposite, and when it does indeed not go well I tell myself 'told you', even though going in with a mindset that I will not succeed does influence the result a lot. So thank you for your kind words, it means a lot. But I'm getting better at not thinking I'll fail beforehand and I'm more and more able to let the past experiences go, and like you said 'I try to live myself in the present because it’s impossible to live it in the past', which is so true.
What you said about 'Dazed and Confused' that 'it really captures those issues which most feel as they enter adulthood; that push of family/community & the pull of making a path for yourself', is something I'm struggling with myself. I haven't seen that one yet, but I will certainly watch it someday. I thought Heartstrings had a nice school/college feeling, though it had more that summery easy breezy feeling. I really liked the school feeling of Nodame Cantabile as well, a group of people bonding though they're all different and finding their own paths eventually.
I think I like both sides you pointed out about the medieval setting. I like it when they stick true to history, but I don't mind if there are artistic liberties taken. It's more about the feel and grandeur of old times I think. But I really like it too when someone resists the restrictions of his or her time. Are there any settings you particularly enjoy?
And I'm really glad I have such a good relationship with my mom. I'm very good with my dad too, but I think my mom just understands me so well. Sometimes even better than I do myself. And having the same sense of (sometimes nonsensical) humour and the way we follow our emotions and feelings instead of using hard logic makes a good bond. She's the one person I go to when I have a problem or don't know what to do, she always manages to say the right things! I wish I had that quality to, to be able to find the right words in every situation.
'I just can’t predict what a person will think of a movie/book/drama, no matter how well I know them', that's so true! I like recommending things to people, cause I want them to like those things as much as I do! But they almost never do, haha. But it gives me a very good feeling when I recommend something and that person ends up loving it!
I have a pretty big book collection and musical knowledge, so I'm always lending books to people (only if I know they won't make them dirty, hehe) and recommending cd's. Instead of going to people for book/music recommendations, people come to me, haha. Which I really like, but it mostly doesn't go the other way around, cause those recommended I usually already know. Same goes for most movies and series. So when I want recommendations I just search around the internet. In real life I don't talk about Asian dramas or recommend them or get recommended, so for my recommendations I got to site like this one and I'm glad the OT is there cause it's such a good place to discuss dramas and recommend them. And thanks to you I already added some more dramas on my to-watch list, so I guess in this case you're my to go-to person for drama recommendation ; )
Are you already in the Christmas mood? I just put a small plastic Christmas tree in my room, decorated with tiny lights and balls. It looks very pretty, haha. It's also snowing here, but I don't like that very much because everything's so slippery! Do you like snow?
Seeing Nice Guy spelled like NG just gave a such a good idea. Nice Guy...NG... u get it... I just can't fathom that drama and it's success...
Sabah, I began watching individual Korean dramas as a whole - beginning to end, after they had concluded their original airing on Korean TV. Sometime late spring or early summer this year, I began watching them as they air.
If it's a good drama, I like watching it beginning to end. If there's something I really don't like about it, watching it beginning to end will annoy me, and I'll usually drop it.
However, having succumbed to my lack of patience, I've gotten into the "watching it as it airs" mode. There's only been one "total waste of time" disaster that I stubbornly followed through to the end - Fashion King. I've learned my lesson well, and applied what I had learned to May Queen - once I saw how the plot was developing, observed the destruction of a sympathetic character, and how pathetic the female characters were depicted, I dumped it and never looked back.
Most American TV shows are episodic with mild to moderate serialized elements to the plot. A few feature highly serialized elements - typically fantasy and sci-fi shows are this way (which I tend to like, since the only two American TV shows I'm watching right now are Fringe and Once Upon a Time). I find that shows with serialized elements keep my interest longer, and I like watching those shows beginning to end, or at least several episodes at a time (and I'm not alone in this - my husband and daughters watch shows like The X-Files and Buffy this way on Netflix).
American TV doesn't do romantic comedy as well as the Koreans, because our comedy shows are typically multi-season and tend to string out relationship developments over a long time (this also extends to comedy/dramas like the typical USA Network shows). I much prefer the Korean approach of telling the story with a beginning, middle and end all happening in a limited number of episodes.
Thank you so much for replying and for your honesty. It is greatly appreciated. : )
Firstly, "Total waste of time" well yes fundamentally it was UNTIL I realized it was the last time I would see Lee Ji Hoon before army duty and then I...I downloaded it again to get me through the long winter. I can't decide if it is shameful or shameless.
Secondly, I really admire your ability to let go and move on. Truly it is commendable. Time is precious and my own inability to let horrid things go has been the ruin of me because I lose not only the time spent watching things BUT moments thereafter being angry. It shows conviction and confidence at its best. Kudos!
Thirdly, I was enlightened to my viewing habits in regards American shows and as you say it really is about the 'serialized elements.' (good label) I used to watch more sci fi (or syfy : S) Stargate/Buffy/X-files but then side stepped into crime shows such as NCIS/Bones/Mentalist. Though they contain series running arcs it isn't as apparent than before which is why I have moved away from watching things beginning to end AND maybe that is why I am trying to fill it with Kdramas, because I miss that habit more than anything. As you astutely pointed out, the romantic genre meshes so well with traditional story telling model. Hmm, I need to find a good sci-fi.
LOL, I'd have to REALLY love an actor to be willing to watch an annoying show just to see him. Can't think of anyone that I'd love enough to endure something like Fashion King or May Queen again.
True but he just brought an intensity to that character that kept me tuned in and of course tune in again. It actually made me realize how far up my list he had come since I couldn't sit through faith even once for Lee Min Ho. I'm going to miss him but I have Sung Joon until then. : )
Is there truly no one? Even an actress?
I prefer to live-watch, and many dramas at the same time if possible: I need different kind of dramas to balance my "diet" so to speak and my mind is a butterfly. If I marathon, it can mean 2 things: There is nothing else interesting and I need to fill in the blanks with an oldie, or I'm rewatching an eternally rewatchable crack drama...
I just love the feeling of watching the drama a few days after it has been shot. It's like being addicted to immediacy. *Curse you live-shooting system*.
Basically you have to wait 5 or 6 days between 2 eps and it doesn't bother me. What got me mad was the delay for the last eps of AGD this summer: 3 weeks! Completely lost the rhythm and the anticipation. And I love the show!
totally agree on how they messed up AGD with the 3 weeks delay. I didn't even watch the last two episodes.
Thank you for replying. I'm always interested in your opinion!
I like the term 'diet,' very appropriate. We all have our own metabolic rates and energy used or just stored as fat. I think my own was too much TV too little exercise whereas with you it seems to be you burn off everything you consume. Very meticulous and precise so that you 'fly' in a more wild way rather than carefree. What I mean is that you like to live in the moment and make the best of it, take the most of it. Is this a fair assessment?
I'm trying to decide if I should exercise more or just 'eat less,' hehe.
I think there is no 'right' way to watch dramas, Sabah! :) I sometimes watch dramas when they are airing but always seem to fall behind schedule part way through. Those are usually only dramas I know about beforehand and am particularly excited about. Often I will hear about a good drama only after it has aired. I know plenty of people who marathon their way through, but I find that I can't do, say, a six hour or eight hour block of marathoning, so I generally only watch an episode at a time. Plus, I tend to watch multiple dramas at the same time rather than going through one and then picking up another.
Aw, thank you for being so kind. I'm not 'wrong' or strange but just me. hehe. Thank you. To be honest I find that I am getting too old to marathon dramas anymore. If I do watch something in one go, I would do it over a week or so rather than one or two days. I haven't the energy or motivation to spend that much time in front of the screen. Ah those lost days of youth to TV!
When you say 'multiple' dramas, is that more than three? Do you find that you compare those that you watch together? For instance, maybe an average drama might be ranked higher just because it was the best from the lot you were watching at some point? Conversely an excellent drama is deemed average because you watched it with other outstanding dramas? Or can you be objective about it?
Good questions, Sabah! Typically for me it is hard to list how many dramas I am watching at any given time because sometimes I may have several dramas 'on hold' either because of problems finding working streams or the like. I would say that watching three actively at once is pretty typical (for me 'multiple dramas' pretty much means any more than one at a time). Though that depends on the type of drama I'm watching. For instance, family dramas tend to run longer so I might watch them intermittantly while watching other dramas, and then jdramas tend to be shorter, so I can squeeze them in with a few kdramas.
I compare the dramas that I am watching to other dramas of the same type. I tend to try to watch different types of drama at the same time so I have variety and if I am in the mood for a particular genre one day I can watch the corresponding drama. So, I would compare family dramas to other family dramas, historical dramas to other historical dramas, etc. I don't think watching several good dramas at once makes them feel average - My Girlfriend is a Gumiho and Sungkyunkwan Scandal aired close to each other in 2010 but that didn't dampen my love of either of them.
How about you? How would you rank or compare the dramas you watch within a specific time frame? :)
"for me ‘multiple dramas’ pretty much means any more than one at a time" For me it's more than two because my brain gets clogged really quickly. hehe.
Ah! I think that's my problem, since the type or style of Kdramas that I watch are very similar. I don't tend to watch family dramas (exception of Ojakgyo brothers) or 'traditional' historical ones, more fusion or contemporary ones.
I think I do tend to let the juxtaposition of dramas affect my estimation of them. If I am more eager or enthusiastic about a certain drama then others are deemed relatively more boring. When I think back about the merits of a drama, it is always to my feelings of excitement about it rather than an objective worth. Sometimes, I do think 'why didn't I like it more?' but then I think it's also about where I was in my life, as well as what else was aired.
Thank you so much for sharing because I am actually learning a lot about myself, good and bad.
Wow, Sabah, you've gotten tons of replies on here! It was hard to follow the thread!
I have to say that I started out by only marathoning, then switched to live watching. But I have decided that I really prefer marathoning. It seems the dramas make more of an impact because I concentrate on the story line more. When I'm watching live I'm usually watching several during the week and tend to forget one from the other (especially now that I've watched or started over 80 dramas and the themes do get repetitive.)
That being said, I have no patience so if I like what I'm watching live, I can't wait each week for a new episode!
Yeah, the readers of DB are wonderful, brilliant and kind hearted people. They have my respect.
Here's the thing/puzzle./conundrum. I have decided that for whatever reason, my character, my viewing habits in youth or preferred genres, I am the kind of person who needs to marathon dramas over a few days as I enjoy much more, like you. SO, do I marathon (therefore wait) or watch as it air (don't wait) 'Flower Boy next door?' My brain short circuits every time I try to decide an answer. : (
Well, if you have others around you in RL to talk about the dramas with and can stay away from spoilers, it may be better to wait. But if you're like me, with a strong need to gab, haha, I do like the interaction and comments from others on the boards.
If I really like something that I've watched live, I download it so that I can marathon it at a later date. Sometimes I like it even more on the second viewing.
Excellent advice. I love listening more than talking, so I can hold off reading/hearing what people thought of a drama until later. Of course I would miss out on conversations and the thrill of what if debates.
Ah! but I you can't watch a drama for the first time again. I wish I could erase my mind like Holly in Red Dwarf and just return to a drama for the first time. Though second or third or hundredth time is still a pleasure, I just love that first time rush.
I'm just so looking forward to this one. Argh. I think I am going to grit my teeth and just save it for marathoning. Heartfelt thanks for your patience and kind assistance. : )
Maybe you can make it your New Year's Resolution. I will not watch FBND until it is finished! Of course, if you're anything like me, my resolutions only last at most a few weeks.....
I don't actually make resolutions on New Years, just around my birthday. Anyway, after reading everyone's replies I have decided to split dramas into those I marathon (the ones I am really excited about) and those that I watch live (so-so interest) which means that FBND is going to be saved and marathoned. It might actually destroy me... Hehe, seriously though it would be good to see if I have the will power.
I prefer to marathon, too, but with the trendies, I just don't have the patience you have.
If the conversation is good, and fun, and SILLY, I prefer to watch live and join in the discussion. I love when I go to a site and people are noticing the same things I do.
If the conversation gets heavy or heated, and people take sides and name call in the spirit of fandom, I will stay away from the recaps and the drama.
This is funny, because IRL, I enjoy good conflict, although I will never understand when it devolves to insults.
Live discussions are interesting, and you can't seem to engender the same passion in people if you come late to the debate, a while after it has finishing airing.
There doesn't have to be agreement but there is an etiquette to disagreement. I would safeguard diversity which is why I prefer listening to differing views but like you I don't understand when people insist on uniformity of opinion.
I feel the same way as you Sabah. I started watching dramas as it aired because I wanted to be caught in the excitement of a good drama but I do find that unless it is exceptionally good, i am less engaged in it than if I were to marathon it.
I do get exhausted though if I find a drama that I love enough to marathon through. I often have to wait a while before I get over a well loved drama to start trying out another drama that I could potentially want to marathon through. It's during this time that I like having a drama that is current that I enjoy.. To fill in those weeks when I don't want to marathon just yet. My drama viewing is slow because when I love a drama, I tend to rewatch it over and over before I move on to the next! It's hard to find one to love that much though
Ooh! That's an excellent idea to separate dramas into 'marathon' and 'don't marathon.' Thank you so much for sharing.
I agree this year though it had its gems, wasn't filled to the brim with dramas that I was rushing to watch. I won't complain though because I got to clear some of my backlog. Once again, thank you for replying, I think this is what I might do.
I started out as a marathoner, but am now watching "live" so to speak. And I actually find that it works better for me to watch a show where I can't just reach for the next episode. Way less sleepless nights. I found I didn't have the willpower to stop if I could keep going. Watching as it airs makes me stop. I think my husbands and kids appreciate it too. :)
I agree that I do have to go back to previous episodes to remember certain things that have happened, but I still think that for my schedule watching as it airs works better for me.
That's very true. I think it helps if your boundaries are maintained by others rather than left to your own devices. It's always one more and then you notice it's dawn! It's kind of a safeguard for your actual life.
"I think my husbands and kids appreciate it too."
Just curious-- how many husbands do you have? ;D
I find that when I'm watching week by week, if the drama really has me interested, I will rewatch the scenes that I liked in the previous episode during the gap between two episodes. So in the end I'm still immersed in the story and the characters despite the cooling off period. And in the end I find that I appreciate the drama better with the discussions and recaps.
On the other hand, when I'm marathoning, I don't rewatch the episodes, unless the drama was really good and I feel like rewatching the whole 16/20/24 episodes (never watched any longer drama lol)
But in the end, whether live watching or marathoning good dramas always make me come back for more :D
I'm actually the reverse, I tend to rewatch favourite parts as I go along in a marathon, which of course extends the marathon's duration but with the currently airing ones, I tend to watch once with the intention of re-watching as a marathon later AND which rarely happens as it turns out. I just don't think I'm the 'live watch' type. It definitely dampers the whole experience for me.
I think it speaks to your personality that you are able to appreciate dramas regardless of format. I really admire that since I am too easily perturbed.
usually prefer to watch all at one go. because i'm very impatient and I just want to know what happens next now. then in the meantime, i read spoilers, which doesn't spoil the shows for me. :)
In truth, I think my impatience is what ruins the viewing pleasure. Having to wait annoys me which then tarnishes the drama too. I don't think that is good thing though. Hehe.
Happy OT and Friday everyone!
You have no idea how happy I am to be able to still stay somewhat sane and alive this Friday. Although the insanity of my life would not end as yet but at least I have things to look forward to in the very near future, ... like after we finally get a christmas tree and put the stockings up ...
For the person who asked me about my work the last OT, yes I am very fortunate to have a job to return to. I have a job waiting for me because I have actually been on leave from work for a couple of years and the ministry I work with allows us to do so for a certain period of time if you have very valid reasons. It's actually quite scary and I'm now prepping for all the changes that had happened since then but yeah... it is good to be able to work again.
and yes Full House 2 is ending and I find it interesting that this is one drama where people are torn between rooting for the male lead to be with the female lead, the male 2nd lead to be with the female lead, the two male leads to be together, and all three to be together, which is quite a hilarious situation but this is how much we want a happy ending for all the nice people. So Take One goes on to Take Two and some people propose Take Three at the end. I suggest Take All (me included).
King of Drama, wait for me, I'm coming to you soon.
Happy weekend everyone!
oops, sry folks, my last post was supposed to be at the end. but for some reason it's up here. totally my blur fault. apologies.
"which is quite a hilarious situation but this is how much we want a happy ending for all the nice people." Agreed.
Hi Sabah~ I use a combo approach, but I hadn't given much thought to my rationale for deciding which dramas to marathon, and which to watch week to week. Thanks to your enquiry, I now have a better sense of why I think that some dramas are best experienced as a solitary journey, others are best when sharing the ride, and some could go either way.
If a drama has a particularly good fandom, watching it as it airs can immensely increase my enjoyment of it. Best Love comes to mind as a drama that I enjoyed so much more thanks to the shared experience happening in real time. Reading the hot-off-the-presses recaps and everyone's comments, jokes, etc. can really intensify my enthusiasm for a drama. Sungkyunkwan Scandal would've been good on its own, but was absolutely cracktastic as a shared ride. Similarly, for some dramas, the recaps/comments are as enjoyable or even more enjoyable than the drama itself. I'd say that's true of most fluffy and/or mediocre dramas. Reading the recaps and comments for those isn't nearly as much fun once the party's over.
However, I prefer to marathon (by which I mean watch at my own pace) dramas like Alone in Love and Flowers for my Life, often described as being deep, moving, thoughtful, etc., because I don't want to dilute their emotional impact. Some relationships, even with dramas, need more quality one-on-one time than others. I also like to marathon dramas that I'm gonna be fast-forwarding my way through (for example ones with a lot of histrionics.)
Then there are other dramas which are kinda 50/50 for me-- I'd be able to appreciate the drama itself more fully by marathoning it, but I'd lose out on part of the overall drama-watching experience by not participating in the collective process.
Like others have said, I think which way is best depends on the person. Selfishly, I hope you won't choose to wait and marathon all dramas in the future, because then you'll be depriving of us your presence and voice at our gatherings, so to speak. I first became aware of you from your History of the Salaryman comments and I've been a fan of yours ever since. Your comments, as well as many others', have really enriched my experience as a member of this community. It's partly that the comments themselves make a difference, and partly that having fellow travelers who are bright, funny, kind, thoughtful, etc. makes me feel that I'm in good company. So please don't forget to include your contribution to the community in the equation.