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		<title>By: Monstermom</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/12/open-thread-272/comment-page-1/#comment-809388</link>
		<dc:creator>Monstermom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2013 12:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, thanks for your comment and welcome! I&#039;ll try to catch the next thread &quot;live&quot; now that I now they happen regularly, thanks! (I&#039;m in northern Europe)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, thanks for your comment and welcome! I&#8217;ll try to catch the next thread &#8220;live&#8221; now that I now they happen regularly, thanks! (I&#8217;m in northern Europe)</p>
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		<title>By: Sabah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 00:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh wow, a lilly flower, that&#039;s impressive. I think it is just wonderful and inspiring that you have learned an art that takes patience, precision and practice.  As the Japanese say the mastery of any art is the regular and continual practice of it.  In this way you are already a master in Origami.  

I am sure it sounds funny. My cousin with whom I was very close moved up to the North of England where they have a distinct accent.  Every time we meet, I just can&#039;t help pointing out how she is acquiring it.  I love accents though, they are just so inviting!  My favourite though is Korean/Japanese/Indian people speaking English with an accent, it just does something to me. I love it! 

Zorra sounds beautiful! I love how you &#039;formed&#039; a name for her.  She is special.  That bond you have with animals is very unique, they just don&#039;t disappoint you like people inevitably do.  We had our cat for 17 years.  She grew up with us and went through our trials with us. She was a member of our family, present at all the big occasions.  Losing her was hard BUT I would do it all again.  Having her in my life was one of the biggest blessings.  It&#039;s been three years but I still miss her. I try to chase the neighbourhood cats just so that I might stroke them for a while but they all run when they see me... The other day I nearly petted a pigeon out of desperation!

I am in awe of Radiohead&#039;s abilities. Their music really moves me in a way you wouldn&#039;t think because their music is so unlike mainstream songs.  I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve listened to Pink Floyd. I mean I must have heard their songs because they are such a big band it would be hard not to.  Are there any songs I should check out?  That Nell MV makes me cry every time I watch it. It&#039;s beautiful and haunting in a perfect way.  Their acting was spot on, subtle yet significant.  Each moment moving through eras.  Both the actors went up in my estimation, very fine performances.  What are some of your favourite MV? 

I&#039;ve lots of recommendations, but here are a few from my favourite Korean bands to get you started.
http://youtu.be/Fa_NSCj7NCM
http://youtu.be/5KAjcEucAT0
http://youtu.be/Eat-5e0mojM
http://youtu.be/csvoEWYkYZw]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh wow, a lilly flower, that&#8217;s impressive. I think it is just wonderful and inspiring that you have learned an art that takes patience, precision and practice.  As the Japanese say the mastery of any art is the regular and continual practice of it.  In this way you are already a master in Origami.  </p>
<p>I am sure it sounds funny. My cousin with whom I was very close moved up to the North of England where they have a distinct accent.  Every time we meet, I just can&#8217;t help pointing out how she is acquiring it.  I love accents though, they are just so inviting!  My favourite though is Korean/Japanese/Indian people speaking English with an accent, it just does something to me. I love it! </p>
<p>Zorra sounds beautiful! I love how you &#8216;formed&#8217; a name for her.  She is special.  That bond you have with animals is very unique, they just don&#8217;t disappoint you like people inevitably do.  We had our cat for 17 years.  She grew up with us and went through our trials with us. She was a member of our family, present at all the big occasions.  Losing her was hard BUT I would do it all again.  Having her in my life was one of the biggest blessings.  It&#8217;s been three years but I still miss her. I try to chase the neighbourhood cats just so that I might stroke them for a while but they all run when they see me&#8230; The other day I nearly petted a pigeon out of desperation!</p>
<p>I am in awe of Radiohead&#8217;s abilities. Their music really moves me in a way you wouldn&#8217;t think because their music is so unlike mainstream songs.  I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve listened to Pink Floyd. I mean I must have heard their songs because they are such a big band it would be hard not to.  Are there any songs I should check out?  That Nell MV makes me cry every time I watch it. It&#8217;s beautiful and haunting in a perfect way.  Their acting was spot on, subtle yet significant.  Each moment moving through eras.  Both the actors went up in my estimation, very fine performances.  What are some of your favourite MV? </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve lots of recommendations, but here are a few from my favourite Korean bands to get you started.<br />
<a href="http://youtu.be/Fa_NSCj7NCM" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/Fa_NSCj7NCM</a><br />
<a href="http://youtu.be/5KAjcEucAT0" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/5KAjcEucAT0</a><br />
<a href="http://youtu.be/Eat-5e0mojM" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/Eat-5e0mojM</a><br />
<a href="http://youtu.be/csvoEWYkYZw" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/csvoEWYkYZw</a></p>
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		<title>By: Korazy Lady</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/12/open-thread-272/comment-page-2/#comment-803722</link>
		<dc:creator>Korazy Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:03:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welcome!  I thought by episode 4 of You&#039;re Beautiful a few did realize she was a girl (in one of the most hilarious scenes ever!)  If you read my comment a few up, you&#039;ll see I watch with the park your brain at the door attitude.  It helps!

Also, I do think that studying abroad is very desirable for South Koreans, so maybe that is why they use it so much.

Come back again!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome!  I thought by episode 4 of You&#8217;re Beautiful a few did realize she was a girl (in one of the most hilarious scenes ever!)  If you read my comment a few up, you&#8217;ll see I watch with the park your brain at the door attitude.  It helps!</p>
<p>Also, I do think that studying abroad is very desirable for South Koreans, so maybe that is why they use it so much.</p>
<p>Come back again!</p>
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		<title>By: FishcalledWanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>FishcalledWanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A wonderful 2013 to you too! 

Yeah, weird isn&#039;t? I thought maybe the site had a grudge to me for a reason I didn&#039;t know, hehe
I think the hardest thing to fold was a lily flower, I had to fold all these little bits without tearing the paper, but in the end it worked! They say if you fold a 1000 cranes you get to make a wish. I&#039;ve folded a lot of those now but I&#039;m nowhere 1000, haha. 
The other day I had to sneeze and instead of saying the Dutch equivalent of &#039;bless you&#039;, she said it in English. We were both quite for a few seconds and then had to laugh. Or sometimes she combines Dutch and English, like she wanted to say &#039;be right back&#039; in Dutch but said &#039;be right terug&#039; (terug meaning back). Sometimes she pronounces the &#039;r&#039; sound very English which is very different from the Dutch pronunciation, very funny. 

I have the same time limiting problem! I want to read and watch so many stuff, my to read/watch lists only keeps growing, but my time is not growing the same speed unfortunately! If you can read it, it must be a manga. I haven&#039;t read it, but skimmed trough a few pages on that site I gave you the link to. It looked really cute. 

I have a black coloured poodle, but we don&#039;t make here look like those show poodles with the hair cut all weird! When we wanted to buy a dog we had a problem because my father and I are very allergic to anything hairy, but poodles are known for being good pets for people with allergies. I named her &#039;Zorra&#039; because she&#039;s black reminding me of Zorro, but since she&#039;s a female I changed the o for an a, hehe. I really love having her in the house, she&#039;s always so happy when you enter the house and it&#039;s so comforting to have a pet, just like you said. I&#039;m sad to hear that your cat is no longer with you, did you have her for a long time?

I love Radiohead too! I went so see them live a couple of months back, it was simply magical. I also have a deep love for Pink Floyd, their songs are so dreamy that I find myself inventing a different interpretation every time. I don&#039;t know Filter, but as it&#039;s one of your favourite albums I&#039;ll certainly give a listen to it. The Korean songs you gave links to I found really beautiful. I didn&#039;t know them, but as I said my Kpop/Korean music knowledge is almost non-existent. So if you have more recommendations I gladly listen to them! The video for the song by Nell was very intriguing and sad, I like videos like that, it gives an extra layer to the music. His voice is also really nice to listen to.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A wonderful 2013 to you too! </p>
<p>Yeah, weird isn&#8217;t? I thought maybe the site had a grudge to me for a reason I didn&#8217;t know, hehe<br />
I think the hardest thing to fold was a lily flower, I had to fold all these little bits without tearing the paper, but in the end it worked! They say if you fold a 1000 cranes you get to make a wish. I&#8217;ve folded a lot of those now but I&#8217;m nowhere 1000, haha.<br />
The other day I had to sneeze and instead of saying the Dutch equivalent of &#8216;bless you&#8217;, she said it in English. We were both quite for a few seconds and then had to laugh. Or sometimes she combines Dutch and English, like she wanted to say &#8216;be right back&#8217; in Dutch but said &#8216;be right terug&#8217; (terug meaning back). Sometimes she pronounces the &#8216;r&#8217; sound very English which is very different from the Dutch pronunciation, very funny. </p>
<p>I have the same time limiting problem! I want to read and watch so many stuff, my to read/watch lists only keeps growing, but my time is not growing the same speed unfortunately! If you can read it, it must be a manga. I haven&#8217;t read it, but skimmed trough a few pages on that site I gave you the link to. It looked really cute. </p>
<p>I have a black coloured poodle, but we don&#8217;t make here look like those show poodles with the hair cut all weird! When we wanted to buy a dog we had a problem because my father and I are very allergic to anything hairy, but poodles are known for being good pets for people with allergies. I named her &#8216;Zorra&#8217; because she&#8217;s black reminding me of Zorro, but since she&#8217;s a female I changed the o for an a, hehe. I really love having her in the house, she&#8217;s always so happy when you enter the house and it&#8217;s so comforting to have a pet, just like you said. I&#8217;m sad to hear that your cat is no longer with you, did you have her for a long time?</p>
<p>I love Radiohead too! I went so see them live a couple of months back, it was simply magical. I also have a deep love for Pink Floyd, their songs are so dreamy that I find myself inventing a different interpretation every time. I don&#8217;t know Filter, but as it&#8217;s one of your favourite albums I&#8217;ll certainly give a listen to it. The Korean songs you gave links to I found really beautiful. I didn&#8217;t know them, but as I said my Kpop/Korean music knowledge is almost non-existent. So if you have more recommendations I gladly listen to them! The video for the song by Nell was very intriguing and sad, I like videos like that, it gives an extra layer to the music. His voice is also really nice to listen to.</p>
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		<title>By: Korazy Lady</title>
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		<dc:creator>Korazy Lady</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 14:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I rarely go back and read the OT after Sunday, but since I did I will welcome you, Monster Mom.  I think we are all a little odd (or crazy, in a good way at least) but we all share our love for Kdramas here.

One of the reasons I watch Kdramas is for pure entertainment.   (Oh, and the cute guys.) I tend to park my brain at the door so to speak. So if they (or the commercials, or the hairstyles, or the language barrier) makes you laugh and fall off the couch, good for you!  Enjoy life!

And I encourage you to post again.  Don&#039;t know where you&#039;re from but it usually starts @9:30 a.m. EST on Fridays.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I rarely go back and read the OT after Sunday, but since I did I will welcome you, Monster Mom.  I think we are all a little odd (or crazy, in a good way at least) but we all share our love for Kdramas here.</p>
<p>One of the reasons I watch Kdramas is for pure entertainment.   (Oh, and the cute guys.) I tend to park my brain at the door so to speak. So if they (or the commercials, or the hairstyles, or the language barrier) makes you laugh and fall off the couch, good for you!  Enjoy life!</p>
<p>And I encourage you to post again.  Don&#8217;t know where you&#8217;re from but it usually starts @9:30 a.m. EST on Fridays.</p>
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		<title>By: Majdal_shams</title>
		<link>http://www.dramabeans.com/2012/12/open-thread-272/comment-page-2/#comment-803662</link>
		<dc:creator>Majdal_shams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 11:44:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello everyone :) I&#039;ve been a fan and a follower of this website for two years now but I have few things I would like to share with you since everyone here appears so knowledgable about korean culture and drama.

naturally I have a love for all foreign things including KDrama &amp; because I was raised watching Telenovelas I learned to unplug my brain whenever I watch latin or korean drama. but I had instances where I couldn&#039;t finish a drama because of a plot device. for example, I couldn&#039;t get passed the 4th episode of You&#039;re Beautiful because there&#039;s no way in hell that I could accept the fact that no one noticed that PSH is a girl or when that doctor in 49 days started explaining SLK visions as reminiscent of past lives. yet the usage of all of these in a plot can be explained regardless of how rational or irrational they may seem

the only thing that I CANNOT get over is the &quot;study-abroad&quot; plot device! can&#039;t you just live abroad? can someone explain this to me?! is it a cultural thing? I know this might sound stupid to some but I personally cannot get passed it; I tried, and I failed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello everyone <img src='http://www.dramabeans.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I&#8217;ve been a fan and a follower of this website for two years now but I have few things I would like to share with you since everyone here appears so knowledgable about korean culture and drama.</p>
<p>naturally I have a love for all foreign things including KDrama &amp; because I was raised watching Telenovelas I learned to unplug my brain whenever I watch latin or korean drama. but I had instances where I couldn&#8217;t finish a drama because of a plot device. for example, I couldn&#8217;t get passed the 4th episode of You&#8217;re Beautiful because there&#8217;s no way in hell that I could accept the fact that no one noticed that PSH is a girl or when that doctor in 49 days started explaining SLK visions as reminiscent of past lives. yet the usage of all of these in a plot can be explained regardless of how rational or irrational they may seem</p>
<p>the only thing that I CANNOT get over is the &#8220;study-abroad&#8221; plot device! can&#8217;t you just live abroad? can someone explain this to me?! is it a cultural thing? I know this might sound stupid to some but I personally cannot get passed it; I tried, and I failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Sabah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 19:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hehe, no problem!  Wishing you a wonderful year ahead!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hehe, no problem!  Wishing you a wonderful year ahead!</p>
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		<title>By: Sabah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sabah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 13:48:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wishing you a prosperous 2013! 

I had something similar happen to me the other day. The automatic door wouldn&#039;t open for me, even though they were working perfectly before I showed up THEN on the way out of the shop the other set of doors, began to open really slowly but at first I thought they wouldn&#039;t open.  It&#039;s really hard not to get paranoid EVEN THOUGH you know they are inanimate.  hehe

I think it&#039;s wonderful that you do origami.  Really interesting. So what is the most difficult thing you have folded/created? What kind of slang is she using with you? Thank you so much for clearing up the difference, (and for the link) I had always wondered.  My friend wanted me to read &#039;Usagi Doroppu&#039; which by your definition, would make it a manga (I think...) I ended up just watching the film, which I loved but annoyed her very much.  It&#039;s a case of limited time. If I had all the time in the world, I would read/watch so much more but since I don&#039;t I say no to a lot of recommendations now.  Actually, truthfully speaking I think that I&#039;m just getting old and fussy.  Hehe.  

Aw, what kind of dog do you have? I miss having an animal in the house.  It&#039;s such a blessing.  I remember so many times, I would come home after a terrible day and just push my face into my cat&#039;s belly, wherever she was lying and just fall asleep.  I really miss her smell. 

I think it&#039;s wonderful that you are watching GG with you mum. It must be illuminating your own feelings which would be similar so that things are spoken but remain unsaid.  

You&#039;re right, a lot of the music I listen to tends to be classical or rather from artists that have &#039;learned&#039; their instruments, without sounding like a snob, which I must do, such as Ludovico Einaudi or Radiohead. Then again, one of my all time favourite albums is Filter&#039;s &#039;Title of record.&#039;  Then there is also my penchant for Metallica...  Hehe I don&#039;t think there is bad music but rather each person&#039;s own preferences.  

Kpop isn&#039;t something I could listen by itself, but enjoy it as part of a performance either live or MV, with a few exceptions.  I find Kpop pretty and I think that is what attracts me the most.  However Korean music I like very much such as Nell, Deli Spice or Leessang.  It&#039;s the lyrics that really get me, and here again I wish I knew Korean better because I am sure I miss much in the translations.  There&#039;s also this that I love, http://youtu.be/EHC_0YqImDw  I&#039;m sure you must have seen this but just in case http://youtu.be/a6AzbOupbxk

Thank you so much for confessing to &#039;whatever that is,&#039; it made me feel a little less strange.  hehe, I don&#039;t know if it is conditioning or just a peculiarity that we share.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wishing you a prosperous 2013! </p>
<p>I had something similar happen to me the other day. The automatic door wouldn&#8217;t open for me, even though they were working perfectly before I showed up THEN on the way out of the shop the other set of doors, began to open really slowly but at first I thought they wouldn&#8217;t open.  It&#8217;s really hard not to get paranoid EVEN THOUGH you know they are inanimate.  hehe</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s wonderful that you do origami.  Really interesting. So what is the most difficult thing you have folded/created? What kind of slang is she using with you? Thank you so much for clearing up the difference, (and for the link) I had always wondered.  My friend wanted me to read &#8216;Usagi Doroppu&#8217; which by your definition, would make it a manga (I think&#8230;) I ended up just watching the film, which I loved but annoyed her very much.  It&#8217;s a case of limited time. If I had all the time in the world, I would read/watch so much more but since I don&#8217;t I say no to a lot of recommendations now.  Actually, truthfully speaking I think that I&#8217;m just getting old and fussy.  Hehe.  </p>
<p>Aw, what kind of dog do you have? I miss having an animal in the house.  It&#8217;s such a blessing.  I remember so many times, I would come home after a terrible day and just push my face into my cat&#8217;s belly, wherever she was lying and just fall asleep.  I really miss her smell. </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s wonderful that you are watching GG with you mum. It must be illuminating your own feelings which would be similar so that things are spoken but remain unsaid.  </p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, a lot of the music I listen to tends to be classical or rather from artists that have &#8216;learned&#8217; their instruments, without sounding like a snob, which I must do, such as Ludovico Einaudi or Radiohead. Then again, one of my all time favourite albums is Filter&#8217;s &#8216;Title of record.&#8217;  Then there is also my penchant for Metallica&#8230;  Hehe I don&#8217;t think there is bad music but rather each person&#8217;s own preferences.  </p>
<p>Kpop isn&#8217;t something I could listen by itself, but enjoy it as part of a performance either live or MV, with a few exceptions.  I find Kpop pretty and I think that is what attracts me the most.  However Korean music I like very much such as Nell, Deli Spice or Leessang.  It&#8217;s the lyrics that really get me, and here again I wish I knew Korean better because I am sure I miss much in the translations.  There&#8217;s also this that I love, <a href="http://youtu.be/EHC_0YqImDw" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/EHC_0YqImDw</a>  I&#8217;m sure you must have seen this but just in case <a href="http://youtu.be/a6AzbOupbxk" rel="nofollow">http://youtu.be/a6AzbOupbxk</a></p>
<p>Thank you so much for confessing to &#8216;whatever that is,&#8217; it made me feel a little less strange.  hehe, I don&#8217;t know if it is conditioning or just a peculiarity that we share.</p>
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		<title>By: dustdevil</title>
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		<dc:creator>dustdevil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 02:08:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Sabah, I wanted to add a thanks for the link to &quot;Biscuit Teacher Star Candy.&quot;  My first searches had turned up nothing, so I was happy to find it. (Stayed up all night watching it, waiting for the MBC Gayo Daejun to air.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Sabah, I wanted to add a thanks for the link to &#8220;Biscuit Teacher Star Candy.&#8221;  My first searches had turned up nothing, so I was happy to find it. (Stayed up all night watching it, waiting for the MBC Gayo Daejun to air.)</p>
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		<title>By: FishcalledWanda</title>
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		<dc:creator>FishcalledWanda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 10:56:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s not working! I don&#039;t know why it posts my short comments but won&#039;t post the one I&#039;ve been trying now for about six times!
Grrr....]]></description>
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Grrr&#8230;.</p>
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