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That Winter, The Wind Blows: Episode 5

Emotions and deceptions hit an all-time high in a show that just keeps getting better, as trust starts forming in all the wrong places. It’s almost crazy how far we’ve come in just five episodes and how much we know about our characters and their deepest secrets, even with mysteries yet to be solved. Scene by scene, conversation to conversation, we’re coming to learn more and more about what drives and motivates our characters; what haunts them, what frightens them, what hurts them. It’s writing and acting like this that helps us see these characters as people, replete with all their requisite neuroses and issues. In short, I wish there was a way to fall asleep and wake up next Wednesday. (Theoretically. Also, without dying.)

Winter maintained its first place spot in the ratings and jumped up almost a whole point in the process, bringing the count to 14.1%.

 
EPISODE 5 RECAP

Young maps out the contours of Soo’s face with her fingers, noting with a small smile that the bridge of his nose is high. Soo’s not in the mood.

Moo-chul figures out that Myung-ho is from PL Group, and doesn’t seem to be doing Soo any favors when he keeps reiterating to Young’s fiancé that that other Oh Soo he’s looking for is a con artist, gambler, all around bad guy, etc. Once again I ask: Does this guy want his money or not?

Once they’re in the car, Soo scolds Young until she breaks out in a fit of giggles, deducing that he must take after their mother with his incessant nagging. She seems so happy and carefree now… does she actually believe he’s her brother now? Eek.

He gives her the clothes she wore earlier and leaves her in the car alone to change.

Moo-chul figures out belatedly that Myung-ho is running his own investigation to find the real Oh Soo, but he practically hands over every piece of evidence Myung-ho would ever need to find the truth, including a magazine with So-ra (whom Myung-ho recognizes from the business meeting) and a picture with Friend Soo, Soo, and Jin-sung.

Even though he claims that Friend Soo is the conman out of the three, it seems like a pretty half-assed attempt. Moo-chul must really hate Soo.

He calls Soo up to tell him what happened – mainly that he gave a picture of the real Oh Soo to Myung-ho. It’s like he wants to torture Soo and it works, because we can see Soo’s hand shaking in fear.

“The day where we both have to square our debt will come,” Moo-chul warns him before he hangs up.

But we see that debt consists of more than money as we flash back through Moo-chul’s eyes to the day Hee-joo happily told him she was pregnant with Soo’s child. (He was almost a father, too? Sad.)

Moo-chul, then scar-free, was heartbroken. I shouldn’t feel bad for this guy, but I kiiiind of do. Then I remember that he stabbed Soo and I don’t feel so bad anymore.

Since Soo wants to avoid Myung-ho for the time being, he proposes that he and Young take a trip to the beach instead of going home. She agrees excitedly, adding that she wants to ride a motorcycle because he promised he’d let her when they were little.

Hee-joo’s motorcycle accident flashes through his mind, but Soo shakily agrees.

While dragging his sister out of a club, Jin-sung runs into Moo-chul – apparently this is his favorite gangster haunt, and he sort of runs the place. He offers to let Jin-sung switch loyalties and leave Soo for him, but Jin-sung tells him exactly where he can stuff that suggestion. Hah.

But Moo-chul’s got something up his sleeve, since he plans on treating Jin-sung’s sister, already a regular at that club, as a VIP. Jin-sung was dragging her out because drinking runs in the family, so what’s Moo-chul up to? “Let’s see where our paths lead us, Oh Soo,” he smirks. Uh oh.

Secretary Wang calls Soo in a fit when Young doesn’t come home, and he answers from their beach retreat. No amount of yelling gets through to him as he coolly reminds her, “I told you already that you are not our mother, Secretary Wang.” Click.

Soo takes Young on a scooter ride, controlling the bike from behind her so she can feel the wind in her face. She smiles like a child as she remembers riding a bike with her mother and brother, but Soo’s memories are much more bittersweet as he remembers riding with Hee-joo, both of them yelling at the top of their lungs that they loved each other.

In the present, his eyes brim with tears. Young remains unaware.

It’s Hee-joo’s death anniversary, so Hee-sun is justifiably upset when they can’t get a hold of Soo.

Jin-sung’s dad shows up to bring food for the memorial, but it seems more and more like Jin-sung is the real parent. Apparently, along with dad’s drinking problem, he has an addiction to buying cows – so any money that could have gone toward Jin-sung or his sister’s education instead went to… cows.

Dad doesn’t seem too apologetic (but he also seems to have pretty simple thoughts), and just encourages his son to make sexy times with Hee-sun. Hah.

Of course, we know Jin-sung likes Hee-sun, she knows he likes her, and he outright tells her he likes her when he tries to stop her from going after Soo: “Do you only think of Hyung, and not me?” Aww, poor invisible Jin-sung. Only in dramaland would this be possible.

Young picks the worst possible time to start asking Soo about his first love, and she even manages to guess Hee-joo’s name from knowing Hee-sun’s.

Aww, we’re seeing a side of Young we’ve only seen flashes of before – now she’s all chipper and smiling, eagerly pestering Soo even though she knows it might flare his temper. She finally breaks him down enough to agree to talk about Hee-joo, which he claims he can only do when drunk.

So they decide on soju, and Young’s face lights up at the thought of drinking all night with her brother: “I enjoy drinking!” She’s adorable! Ahhh, Show, stop with all this… happiness. It makes me feel like bad things will happen.

Soo opens up about Hee-joo over soju and snacks, though their story is a simple one: Girl liked Boy, Girl’s parents didn’t approve, Girl ran away with Boy. After that, he explains that they lived together, which prompts Young to ask: “And then you slept together?” Soo’s all, Duh, I’m a guy.

The night goes on and they talk like old friends, telling funny stories from their pasts. It’s like you can just see their connection building and strengthening. I suppose the better word would be: Chemistry.

Things get a little weird when Young convinces him to sleep with her for the night, despite his assertion that grown men and women don’t sleep together.

Young: “But you’re an oppa.” Soo: “Even an oppa is a man.” Er. Technically, yes, but… um. Where’s that therapist?!

Soo finally agrees to lie down so she can touch him and get a feel for what he looks like, even though he warns her: “You know where to touch and where not to touch, right?” Haha. He seems way more scared of this than she does. Then again, if she’s the only one operating under the assumption that they’re siblings…

She measures the height of his body by the span of her hands and all sorts of other things, marveling at his height and the softness of his hands. When she finally plops down next to him he turns to her, gently running the back of his fingers along her cheek as he wonders whether she can really tell what he looks like through touch. (Keep your arms and legs inside the vehicle, folks. This is going to be a funky ride.)

Young asserts that beauty standards are much simpler for the visually impaired – if the man she touches has a thick arm and a coarse voice, they’re considered handsome. Plus, she knows he’s tall. “It’s a whole lot simpler than what you people who can see normally nitpick about, right?”

She asks him to give her his arm as a pillow, and closes her eyes as she nestles closer. When he asks why she walked into the river she responds: “If I can choose when to die, then I thought that was the perfect moment. Because you came.” (She says it meaning her Oppa came back.)

She cuddles in closer, wrapping her arm around his side. Soo doesn’t know what to do with his hands, and instead asks her if she no longer doubts his motives in coming to find her. He assumes she’s asleep when she doesn’t respond and moves his hand to her head to pull her away.

But she murmurs “Oppa,” and he immediately reels away, looking like he didn’t even realize what he was doing. “Don’t go,” she says as she snuggles further into his chest. “Stay with me.”

“Okay,” he agrees. “I’ll stay by your side. If you tell me to stay, I will.” But the look on his face seems to say: Shit just got real.

They play on the beach the next morning like no more barriers exist between them. Young reminds him of the promise he made last night: “The promise that you will be by my side every time I ask you to.”

Secretary Wang plays Young’s mother’s piano at home, remembering when she used to watch Young and her mother play it from afar. The look on her face (in the flashback) reads more like longing, and not necessarily jealousy.

Young asks Soo about the man who read his letter to her, wanting to meet him despite Soo’s claims that he can no longer be found. But Young remembers that he was kind to her, because he took the time to tell her that her brother loved her. Huh. Is it possible she’s still suspicious?

Jin-sung calls Soo to tell him to get his butt back to town, but Hee-sun snatches the phone away, furious: “You forgot my sister’s memorial ritual while having fun with another girl?” The news hits Soo hard – he genuinely forgot, the thought hadn’t even crossed his mind.

Hee-sun tears into him and shatters the wooden grave marker Soo made for her sister. “You’re a bastard,” she tells him over the phone. “I promise you, if you don’t die in Moo-chul’s hands, I’ll kill you myself.” Click.

Soo’s all shaken up, so he calls Secretary Wang to pick Young up. She has no idea what’s happening but can hear the change in his voice, and it’s breaking my heart that she looks so lost and afraid. “You’re different from earlier, like a stranger. You’re being cold. What’s wrong?”

But Soo lets his emotions get the best of him, perhaps unfairly placing some of the blame on Young as he yells at her to be quiet. Ouch.

Young’s good demeanor is gone by the time Secretary Wang picks her up, and Soo leaves after apologizing for keeping her out last night. (Strangely, Secretary Wang tells him it’s okay, because she was out of line telling him what to do. That doesn’t seem very like her.)

Young tells Secretary Wang how much fun she had with her brother almost like an attack, adding how happy she thought her mom would be if she saw them.

Young: “When I thought of that…”

Secretary Wang: “…You hated me more.”

Secretary Wang knows her too well, and even as Young’s emotions escalate, Wang remains calm and cool as a cucumber, like she’s dealing with a child’s tantrum.

Even though she claims that all Young’s assets would go to Soo even without a will, Young throws the Myung-ho issue at her, claiming that she forced the engagement with her father even when Young told her she didn’t like him.

“If you distrust me so much, why do you keep me by your side?” Secretary Wang asks. “You can just fire me. I’m just hired help to you. Why? I’m still of some use to you? I became your eyes for you since you can’t see. I manage the company on your behalf since you can’t see. I check around for you since you can’t see, and I drive you around like this.”

“But how did I end up this way?” Young asks accusatorially. Secretary Wang reiterates that it’s a brain tumor, nothing more, knowing that Young blames her for her blindness. She’s fine with that, and claims to be glad that Young will replace her with someone who can protect her. Until then, she tells Young to use her up.

Soo makes it to the forest and Hee-joo’s broken marker just in time for Moo-chul to arrive, smirk firmly in place. “Why is there only one grave?” he taunts. “There should be two.”

And he keeps going on about Soo’s unborn child, purposefully wheedling Soo in the worst way. You unbelievable bastard. You unbelievable bastard! If I could reach through this screen…

Luckily, Soo can handle himself, and starts punching the daylights out of Moo-chul.

A flashback shows how he’d handled the baby news from Hee-joo, and it wasn’t pretty. Afraid the baby would turn out to be a bastard like him, he’d shunned her after the news, despite her literally holding onto his ankles as she cried, “Don’t go. Don’t abandon me.”

He left her on a motorbike, and she tried to follow him on her own. Ahh, so this is what happened directly before the accident, and this is the last conversation they had. Ouch. Moo-chul was there to see everything, too. Maybe that explains some of his hate for Soo?

Back in the present, the fight gets brutal. (I’m pretty sure Moo-chul spits out a tooth at one point.)

And then we flash back to the past, where it’s like we thought – Hee-joo got hit by a truck trying to chase after Soo, while Moo-chul followed from behind. As she lied on the pavement teetering on the brink of death, her hand went to her tummy. Her baby. This is awful.

In the present, Moo-chul backs Soo against a tree: “I told you I loved Hee-joo, but you said you loved her more. So I said, ‘Fine. Be good to her.’ Since Hee-joo was my everything, the first and last woman I loved. The one I loved long before you even met her. But you dumped her while she was pregnant.”

Soo’s anger starts to fade, replaced by sadness and regret: “I was so young back then,” he starts, but Moo-chul cuts his excuses off. Soo can’t say he was too young, or that it was because his parents abandoned him, because Hee-joo was nineteen just like him.

“You’re a bastard worse than your mom and dad who abandoned you,” Moo-chul spits.

Soo’s face contorts in sorrow, his voice breaking: “I really didn’t know she would die.”

Moo-chul disrespectfully disagrees, claiming that Soo knew very well that he was Hee-joo’s entire world, especially since she left her parents for him.

Then, he proffers a pill, one which causes instant heart failure and death, so effective that it can’t even be found in an autopsy. He tells Soo to take it himself or give it to Young, and he’s sure Soo will choose to save himself because he’s the lowest of the low.

Soo sinks to the ground, sobbing. Poor thing. Before he leaves, he fixes the grave marker.

Secretary Wang refuses to sign the will Lawyer Jang presents to her, trying to prove that she doesn’t want any of Young’s money. She mentions Young’s trip to the beach and asks him to take her there sometime: “I’m asking you out on a date.”

Lawyer Jang become so flustered at the thought that he literally trips over himself. Aww. I wonder if she’s being sincere.

Secretary Wang seems to be trying very hard to get Young to like her, even giving her a camera she asked for, noting that she has the same hobby as her mother.

Young treats her colder than ever and refuses to take a picture with her, using her next breath to order Secretary Wang to find the other Oh Soo, the one who read her the letter. “You said I should use you,” Young reminds her.

She uses the camera to record another video diary in her mother’s basement, explaining to the oppa who’ll eventually watch it that she used to make them so he could catch up on her life easier when they met later – but now, she’s leaving the video for when she dies.

“I think my brain tumor has relapsed,” she explains to the camera. Apparently she’s been having those migraine headaches for two months now, and explains that she decided against going to the hospital in the time she was with him. The idea of getting brain surgery again and going through painful chemotherapy when Soo will already be gone is too much for her.

Young: “If there’s time left for me, I want to spend it with you having fun, living happily-…” A painful headache cuts her words short, but she perks up when she hears noise. “Oppa, I think you’re here. I’m going to go see you.” Aww.

Soo finds her waiting in his room after he gets out of the shower, and she asks for an apology – no one’s yelled at her like that in twenty-one years. He’s still in a foul mood from the day and tells her to get lost, even when she pulls up her sleeve to reveal a cut on her arm. (I think she got it tripping over the tripod.)

She leaves without a word, and Soo finally feels guilty enough to follow… but she knew he would, and was simply waiting outside his door. “Are you going to my room to apologize?” she asks. “I accept.”

Back in his room, she asks for the reason behind him yelling. We know he’s thinking back to Moo-chul’s suggestion that he kill Young, since the poisonous pill now sits between them ominously.

Young can feel the change in the air: “You’re still strange right now. The mood in this room is cold and heavy, like something bad happened to you.”

With his eyes fixed on the pill, Soo tells her the truth about forgetting the day Hee-joo died. Young unknowingly knocks the pill over when she moves to wrap her arms around his shoulders in order to comfort him.

He wants her off and away from him, causing her to stumble across the pill case. When she asks what it is, he tells her it’s an amulet.

Soo: “A friend went through a lot of difficulties to get it. If you take it when you want to die… without anguish, pain, or despair, they can disappear in one moment. He said you’ll feel total peace.”

So Soo’s just told her he has an Instant Death pill, and Young’s so morbid that she actually finds it interesting. “Give it to me,” she says, without missing a beat.

“Should I?” Soo wonders. “Should I just… give that to you?”

Young nods. Arghhh. What’s WRONG with you people?

 
COMMENTS

To be fair, I do kind of get what’s wrong with these people. We’ve been given plenty of reasons as to why Soo and Young are the way they are, but it still frustrates me that people with diseases in dramas just don’t get treated. Once, just once, I want to see a melodrama where a character goes, “I need to see a doctor about this brain tumor, because I’d sure like to live.” I suppose that would negate the genre, but still.

This doesn’t seem to be a case where Young isn’t getting treated just for dramatic effect, since she explained that she’s gone through treatment before, and knows firsthand how painful and awful it is. I understand that, but Young’s constant readiness-to-die is a character trait I’d like to see change down the line. I want her to want to live, and since Soo is NOT helping right now, he gets to stand in the corner until next week.

I really like that Moo-chul got some fleshing-out this episode, and that his character revelations built upon the hints that were dropped in earlier episodes. This time, we finally got to see the full picture of what happened, so we can know where both men are coming from. Even though I gained a better understanding of Moo-chul, I do think he’s coming at this all wrong, not to mention the fact that he’s not a very good guy. The scene where he railed on his fellow gangsters for helping that poor kid out only highlighted the difference between someone like him and someone like Soo, since we know from Soo’s past that he’d sooner help someone before hurting them, as long as it was in his capacity.

Moo-chul gets faced with those same choices, but as we’ve seen, the decisions he makes are much different. It’s a nice breath of fresh air to know that his deal with Soo is more along the lines of revenge rather than I’ll-hate-you-because-the-script-told-me-to, because now Moo-chul gets a journey we can at least be aware of even if we don’t care about his personal outcome. I love that our characters have solid reasonings to back their actions, even if their actions can be all kinds of wrong, because we’re at least given the choice as to whether we want to sympathize or not. And it’s working out well for characters like Moo-chul, Hee-sun, and the growing-more-enigmatic-by-the-hour Secretary Wang. Seriously, I still don’t get her, but I love that my perceptions of her keep changing.

As far as Young believing Soo to be her brother goes, I think she’s at least 90% sure. If there is a remaining 10%, I’d attribute it to her lingering interest in finding the original Oh Soo, like she needs just that last bit of conformation. Even without it, she still trusted Soo enough to let her guard down, and it was so gratifying to see her smiling and laughing because of him. They make a cute couple and have some really natural chemistry that’s capable of transforming in the blink of an eye, like when Soo started to lose himself during their cuddling scene. That was intense.

I know, we all comforted ourselves to sleep at night with the thought that the skinship bits were less squicky because Young didn’t see Soo as her brother and vice versa. Only now she does seem to think he’s her brother, and while all her actions read as innocent, it’s not necessarily the same for him. It gives every scene of theirs that added layer – you know, the kind where you’re not quite sure if you should be enjoying a scene as much as you are. Or is that just me?

 
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I Love this show and the leads. And I love to read the ep recaps and the comments of all you wonderful people here, feeling the same about the show! :-) can't wait for the next episode. I hope Youngie finds out the truth, Oh Soo not knowing about it. It would be romantic sexy sizzling.

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JO IN SUNG IS SOOOOOOOO FREAKING HANDSOME!!!!

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Thanks for the recap!
I really don't know what I feel about them. I mean if the story is just run-of-the mill love story, I should be squealing or fanning myself or biting the sleeves of my shirt with those scenes. Ugh! I just remember the cotton candy scene! But it doesn't because I know that its sisterly gesture for her. I wanna feel the romance but I can't or should not? Really I don't know.
At the end, I screamed "what are your problem people?!" and wanting to see anything funny or entertaining.
I still like the show though, because its beautiful, I can see Jo In Sung's pores and stubble.

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Yes, and I can also see that Song Hye-kyo have no pores at all!! What skin!!

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OMGosh. This episode seriously messes with your feelings and head in a good way! It's so wonderful to watch good, great, marvelous melodrama for a change!

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This show makes me FEEL so much I don't know how I'm going to survive to ep 16

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“If I can choose when to die, then I thought that was the perfect moment. Because you came.” (She says it meaning her Oppa came back.)

LOL

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The beanies are so dirty!

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Omo.... thank you for the wonderful commentaries. I haven't laughed this much for ages. Will look forward to our remote therapy sessions each week. Yes, ZIS is, indeed, a hottie. Everytime I see him, I get these fleshbacks (yes, I mean fleshbacks--not flashbacks) of his character in "Frozen Flower". I am still not recovered from watching that movie. And, I have never seen an actor who can do a"Psychosis" better than ZIS ( as in "It Happened In Bali"). Bring it on.......♥. It is absolute torture to wait for the new episodes each week, and since my Korean is not fluent, I need to wait for English subs. Chong-mal komapsumnida to the administrator of this website.

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She totally knows who he is ;)

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Oh, and no sqicky feelings at all because of that, bring it on! Lol

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Torture!Torture!This episode is torture!How can you do that to him(My Soo)?!...and to me?^^keke.There are a few things in this episode that I don't understand but it did arouse a lot of feelings on both good and bad.

That last scene with the pill,gosh that made me cry!I too would have wanted that pill.I can understand her in a big way.(A loved one of mine died of cancer but this is about the drama so i'm not going to talk about that).I know that it's a noble thing to sacrifice your life for someone,deserving or not,but I so wanted for the heroine to be selfish for once and want to live and fight for what's hers.

"Secretary Wang is Soo's mother".Yeah, i think so too.Or i want it to be.

Thanks,Heads,for the recap.

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As for me, incest is a dealbreaker and I don't think SK audiences will accept that. I can enjoy the drama on the basis that they are not siblings. I believe that 100%.

Now, I feel bad for MooChul and get why he all revengey on Soo. It is understandable. Soo left Hee Jun while she was pregnant due self loathing (not wanting to raise a kid that will be like him) or whatever reason, I don't care. It was wrong. No matter how I like him, what he did is cruel.
Regarding Moochul hitting the new guy, I think he tried to protect the guy. Being thug is not easy (from what i see in dramaland) I think MooChul did that with good intention, drive the guy away so that he look for other 'clean' job.

And as always thanks for the recaps

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i praise for the imagination ability of the writer/s of this k-drama...so far it's very interesting to watch...can't wait to see the end of this episode (Ep.16). I hope there will be no "suicide scenes" of the main characters, 'coz if there is, you are endorsing the tv watchers to end your life when you cannot find enough answers to your problems.

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As much as I would like to spazz about the cuddle and the touching (yeah it was gggggguuuuuddddddd), i think Moo Chul owned this episode hands down.

If JIS and SHK's acting is good in this ep, i tot the actor playing Moo Chul trumped them in this ep (don't hate me!).

It is the subtle facial expressions that differentiated Moo Chul (the young boy with puppy love affections) and Moo Chul (scarred creepy gangster adult). Is it just me or when we first saw him in the flashback receiving news of Hee Joo's pregnancy, he was like this innocent boy, gentle, caring and peaceful(?)

It must have taken a lot for him to change into the roughed up gangster that he is today. And i think to a certain extent, he hates himself for that. The scene where he punched the young gangster is a sign of that; he lost that innocence that he could no longer gain back, that innocence that Hee Joo knew and the boy that Hee Joo could always count on (given the fact that they worked together and she is close enough to share her pregnancy with him, they muct have been pretty close friends).

True, he has his reasons to hold his grudge against Soo and Soo's excuse works exactly the same for him; Soo was 19 when it happened but so was Moo Chul. My shipper heart excused Soo for his age and his ignorance but what about Moo Chul?

If we say that Soo is living in the past, then so is Moo Chul. He might have grown and roughed up as a gangster, but inside, he is still that 19 year old boy and his actions are motivated just like how a 19 year old would.

So i guess that's my rant. hah.

Moo Chul owned this episode.

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Am i the only one that is hoping secretary wang is NOT young's birth mother?
I'm not lovin' the birth secrets on top of our already makjang set up.
Plus, i never got the vibes from the show that she might be her actual mom. I just see her as someone who always longed to have a relationship much like young and her mother's. She stuck around because she actually sees young as her own, and if not, for the company(money).
I dont know if she ended up being the mother in the movie version, but if she is here, i'd just groan and roll my eyes. Unless Noh Hee Kyung whips up some voodoo and magically interweaves this scope into the storyline, I have no idea how it will do the story any good.
Plus, i find that her staying non-blood related to young is what keeps her character from falling flat, because if she is the birth mother, then you'd just deduce that she raised young for all those years because it's what a mother would do. My question is, if she isn't the real mother, why did she stay all those years? Money aside.

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I'm with you. And perhaps she has stayed all those years because she truly wants to take care of Young in her own creepy way.

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I agree! I don't think she's OY or even OS's mother (like someone guessed ... ). I believe her care for OY is genuine and how she wants to have that mother-daughter type of relationship. She must have been jealous of that and wanted to keep OY by her side back then and thus stirred troubles between OY's parents. One of the flashbacks showed how SW came to OY's house and was watching OY and her mother playing the piano together, the look on her face was sweet but of that someone yearning for that kind of relationship.... just a thought (:

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THIS DRAMA GOT ME HOOKED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING BECAUSE OF TOO MANY SKINSHIPS ^_^

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This is what Kdrama can do to you. Oh Soo is supposed to be the villain who commit all sorts of fraud including the-romantic-fake brother in which in real life would be scrutinized; but yet in Kdrama we are rooting for. Hm... i love drama...

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We are rooting for him although he's supposed to be the bad guy because viewers like us knew that he'll change for the better once he fellin love with his fake sister which is pretty normal in korean dramas.

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How do you guys understand this drama? Is there English subtitle?

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so basically diz drama is a remake from japanese drama Ai Nante Irane Yo, Natsu rite?

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Yes, it is. There's also Korean movie remake, and both have different ending with some twist. I haven't watch it but people in Soompi (who watched it) said that J-Drama got happy ending while K-Movie got...sad ending.

As for this TWTWB version, I can only hope for open ending.

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@Jay you can stream subbed episodes on gooddrama.com, epdrama.com or dailymotion etc...

And no omg I have no issues with the fauxcest

The amazing sexual tension and chemistry is just one of the things that is leaving me in withdrawal mode after marathoning the past 5 episodes.

How is Jo In-Sung bringing all that amazing intensity and sizzle past my screen! (Just like in WHIB) Breaking down the fourth wall repeatedly gah.

Thanks so much for the recaps! They always help when I'm in withdrawal mode (speaking of which I totally haven't felt this way about a drama in agesssss)

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i am just not feeling Jo In Sung the way I felt him in WHIB!!! Why not????

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Another point keeps bothering me - Youngie did mention that Soo's voice belongs to that "dude from one year ago" (him obviously), but now she wants people to find that same person again? Is this some kind of plot hole or a mistake on purpose?

After watching Padam Padam, I get a feeling that the writer, Noh Hee Kyung, knows how to start well but the middle parts are like "I'm confused meself so Imma just write whatever". Love her meaningful dialogues but the story went a little cuckoo afterwards. Hope it doesn't happen to TWTWB!

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yeah, she's suspecting Soo before because of the voice but at after several incidents wherein Soo Soo were able to prove he's really his brother, Oh Young started to accept that Soo is her real brother. But still, everytime she is with Soo, she is reminded of the other Soo in Episode 1 as if they're connected with each other. She told about it to Soo in Episode 5. In other words, she is still in doubt and not 100% sure that Soo is her real brother. So in order to erase any doubt, she wants to find the con man Soo.

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She questioned him in episode 3 because the way he recited lines was familiar to when he read her brother's letter to her, and she was still suspicious of him being her actual brother. Which is reasonable and expected.
However, after episode 3, Soo was able to "prove" himself by buying her the cotton candy, the flowers, taking her to places only they know of in the past, almost to the point that he was acting like her brother(the slap, the skipping stones).
At this point, it seems like she believes him 95%. A part of her, that last 5%, seems to want to confirm it. I'm guessing it's part of her unconscious desire to see it for herself, and that means removing all doubt she had in the first place, to which meeting the "other" soo would allow her to do. Noh Hee Kyung doesn't want to make young seem too easy. And im glad that she still has some doubt. Makes the intimate scenes much more bearable. lol

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I think the conversation they had about Hee Joo before the "bed" scene made things a bit clearer for the viewers. For her, he is oppa, but as he said during they conversation before that , "I am a man after all". And then he goes on to say, an oppa is also a man.

That is probably the biggest difference between their feelings at the moment. What she wants is family, someone to rely on, and for her, an oppa is all that is left. For him, he knows they are not true family so it is greyer....

I wonder when Youngie will find out the truth, that he is lying. That is when the dynamics will change!

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Just found out that TWTWB is based on the film 'Love Me Not' which is in turn based on the Japanese drama, 'Ai Nante Irane Yo, Natsu'. Unfortunately, a sad ending seems inevitable due to experience with both films :( (but the ending to love me not seems quite open, so it may just be my interpritation). I really wish i could drop this drama seeing as i hate tragic endings (i watched a Japanese film called heavenly forest and ended up sobbing for most of the day and tearing up every time i thought about it), but this is just too good to miss!!! The actors blow my my mind, but specifically Zo In-Sung who is an amazingly sexy and brilliant actor and Song Hye Kyo who is a crazy good actress and beautiful on top of that!!

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We are all hoping that this instance deviates from its tear-filled antecedents. There is precedence to believe that it will.

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‘Ai Nante Irane Yo, Natsu’ ended up happily unlike Love Me Not's ending which I still think is not an open ending. There's closure and I don't feel sad coz they're together even after death.

Between Ai Nante and Love Me Not, I prefer the ending of Ai Nante but I'll not bemad and would still be contented if they follow through the ending of Love Me Not.

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how did the j-drama end???

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I can't tell exactly the details of the ending but one thing is for sure, it ended happily coz no one died.

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This drama's story is sooo similar to the korean movie Love Me Not starring Moon Geun-young and Kim Joo-hyuk.

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How bout if Sec Wang is Myung Ho's mother? That explain why she force the marriage to happen.. and kill the father.. hehehe.. just my wildly guess..

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I haven't started the drama just quickly look through the recap, but is this like a remake of the movie "Love Me Not" ? I didn't really try to read the recap much but I kept thinking this seems familiar then I remember the movie, just wondering.

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NVM lol actually read the comments and I guess it is a remake then lol man now idk if i want to watch the drama bc I too hate tragic ending, probably wait this its done and marathon it LOL

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FCUK

Haven't watched kdramas in forever and I really really do not have time for this one.

...Cause here I am at midnight, done watching the drama, done rewatching favorite scenes, done re-reading the recaps, done reading the 100+ comments here, BUT still not done obsessing over this shit!

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same here!!!!

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LOL...make that 200+ comments and still obsessing over this shit....

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Maybe I am a weird one, I don't know.
But I have a really close relationship with my youngest uncle (I have 3 uncles from my Mom's side).
I still slept with him and played around (getting tickled, was our favourite game) till I was in senior high-school.

I was the oldest daughter in my family, and I always long to have an elder brother. So, I do understand the relationship between Soo and Young. We need someone to rely on and to trust.

And I thought it was normal, until I read some of the comments.... er... hehehehe...

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I finally jumped on the bandwagon. so glad that I did as I am loving this drama! first time to ever watch Jo In Sung and fudge, not only is he a fantastic actor, but he's eye candy to boot.

not feeling icky either with the "brother sister" scenes. the poignancy of their moments is deeply moving and I shudder to think of the outcome once things start to unravel.

overall kick-A drama!!

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was Jo In Sung hotter in his Bali days? Is anyone else feeling that his looks are going????

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i thought there was more intensity in WHIB and sexual tension with ha ji won but even here it doesn't look like he aged a day, and neither does his costar song hye friggin' gyo.

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LOL. Dramaland must really love putting Song Hye-Kyo in forbidden relationships and giving her a terminal illness. "Autumn in My Heart" anyone? I mean seriously, another brother and sister relationship. But throw "Something Happened in Bali" Jo In-Sung, and this drama gets a little bit dangerous. Is everyone going to die in the end??

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I like to think we're going to have a good ending.
Note: Did not say sad or happy.
In the hands of respected writer Noh Hee Kyung, im sure we wont get a WTF ending. As long as the ending makes perfect sense and ties into the whole story then I am satisfied with the roller coaster ride of TWTWB.
lol i love how it's only episode 5 and it's already sucked us all in, and a therapy couch to boot.

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Writer Kyung managed terminal cancer and a happy ending in Padam, so it'll be interesting to watch TWTWB play out.

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I don't think his looks are going at all! He's just as captivating as he was during his WHIB days!

Less flower boy and more masculine I would say perhaps.

But yeah him and HJW had better chemistry I suppose. Then again they say HJW has great chemistry with almost everyone.

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I know that writer Noh Hee-kyung and director Kim Kyu-tae were both eager to have Kim Bum co-star again after Padam Padam, but unless his role expands over the next few episodes, his acting talent is wasted. Guardian Angel was a much better gig. Plus, he had amazing wings & got to fly.

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actually Kim bum's character in the jdrama is so interesting and complex. you'll be surprised in the coming episodes maybe on the 8th or 9th. All the characters in the drama have their own story to share and all of them are complicated.

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I have a feeling that it's just out of desperation. She know she's dying and she's all alone and here's a man willing to be the long lost brother she's been waiting for.

It's difficult to gauge what's really in her mind, so I might be wrong.

One more thought, I can't help but marvel at how beautiful she (Young) is.

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yay i am not alone on the faux "incest" ! I love it, it is like torture guilty pleasure of mine, loving the romance but with a sick dark pleasure knowing to the outside world this is incest but having a relieving satisfaction of knowing that they are not related. I really do hope the lead gets feeling for her brother....it will make the story more interesting. This episode should have been named 'forbidden romance'.

I am with everybody of secretary. She so damn interesting....it makes you want to see her more to figure her out.

Now i did not like the girl who sister died. Just for the fact she keeps bringing up the past and making it like our lead cant move on or have a life. I like that guy who said "people throw each other away" It was like dang they broke up.how was he suppose to know she will die! but honestly i think her underlying issue is that she likes the lead and she feels guilty about it and that she brings up her sister to have some hold over him.

Then i saw what really happen and still i feel for the lead. he was 19 years old and orphan with no prospect!! hell i would be upset too, now evil guy made a point that the girl was 19 to, but she resolved her feelings and wanted the child, he did not have time to get his feeling in order. Its not he dumped her and time pass. He literally was driving away and bam! she dead!

Another thing is why is everybody upset that the lead wants to live. Less we forget he was PLAYED by his crazy azz ex! She needs to get whats coming to her. I still cant believe she puts on the face of concern for her ex....my goodness talk about sick. I just put my man in jail so i will know he wont cheat and then i set him up to take a fall for me while i go to the states and enjoy my life. and then allow to have a bounty on his head but still wants to be with him. really...really baby that ship had gone and sailed!

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