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Ok so I was busy commenting in the TWTWB recap and saw the OT pop up, could not resist.
Out of all the dramas currently airing I'm watching TWTWB, The Virus (which I just call in my head the Baïruseu because it cracks me up) and keeping an eye on Incarnation of Money (I have a few episodes to catch up to).
Of all three TWTWB is the only one that makes me rewatch and wait eagerly for the next episode. I'm not emotionnally invested in the characters, except Soo maybe, but I still find the story captivating. And the cinematography too, obviously everyone keeps gushing about it, but it really is beautifully shot and most importantly the live shoot has not altered its quality so far (I was a little worried when they broadcast three episodes instead of two). I don't know if it was the intent of the drama but the fact that it leaves you cold and detached is actually coherent with the winter theme of the drama. Winter theme, and not holidays theme, where I would expect snow and warmth and fuzzies. That's the strange dichotomy for me, despite not connecting with the characters, I still want to know their story and not because of a morbid fascination, like in Nice Guy or I Miss You - I really want Soo and Young to find their happiness.
I was expecting a little more oomph from The Virus, from the apocalyptic stills that were released. The story reminds me a lot of a manga called Emerging which also depicts the propagation of a mysterious deadly virus. What I miss from the drama is the sense of agoraphobia that would normally come with this kind of story. After watching it I don't feel especially panicky when a stranger coughs in the bus and I don't wash my hands more than usual. But I do like the mystery set up and will see how it unfolds. The characters are a bit one dimensional for now but since it's only the first episode there is plenty of time to develop them. I guess I'm used to watching two episodes back to back.
Since there is so much talk about idols taking important roles in dramas I've been scrutinizing Yu Bin in The Virus, and while the character is whiny so far I think she's doing a reasonnable job. I'm a little more worried about the Suzy/Lee Seungi pairing in Gu Family Book. Eunji was a little typecast for Heesun in TWTWB but so was Kim Bum as loyal sidekick.
That's it for my rant of the week, have a good week end beanies :D
You have literally summed up everything I feel about the dramas Incarnation of Money, That Winter The Wind Blows, and the Virus. Saved me trouble from expressing all that, lol. :)
Ditto. I feel the same about TWTWB. The execution,visuals and cinematography was fascinating enough to draw me in week after week but lately I find myself getting detached from the drama itself but I'm not sure why is it so. The only character that I'm rooting for is Soo,since Jo In Sung's portrayal of him just makes me wanna hug and comfort him. (uhm a bit TMI perhaps? ahahah) I think I am having a bit of a drama slump lately cause I haven't been watching other dramas aside from TWTWB since FBND's finished airing. I've tried watching C-dramas,J-dramas and T-dramas but none of them had managed to captivate my interest beyond the first episode. Help,anyone? Any recommendation would be greatly appreciated. :)
Hmm, it can be a little difficult to find recommendations going only on the fact that you like the visuals of TWTWB. So I'll just tell you some of my favorites.
J-Dramas
* Holyland - it has a similar mood to some revenge dramas, but not :P. Personally, I like it better that K-remake.
* Shiawase no Kiiroi Hankachi - might like if you liked Padam Padam. The lead is Hiroshi Abe, who can be very expressive with very few to zero words.
* Death Note 1&2 - these are live action movies of the manga, but a worthy watch
T-Drama (the two that I would recommend have a late 90's early 2000's K-melodrama feel)
*Autumn's Concerto - it does drag at the 2/3 point, but ends solid.
*Real Love Please Press the Bell Twice - has a plot line more suited to a daily soap, but has a lot of heart.
Don't know if these will suit, but maybe one will keep you going.
happy indeed after 12 hours of work again.
no energy.
watched...kpop audition? weird cute and all very soft voices no mokey or rock at all? like the borther-sister duo
only watched till ep 2 for now
That winter - amazing sweaters. I feel like knitting if I had any time
gosh I am gonna puke I am so tired. all blurry
also watched a bit of jdorama Share House No Koibito. Also interesting. but living alone is not such a tragedy. no comprende. of course no one cooks for you when you are tired but hey. less eating better figure.
IKR?! We did a good job of living up to our "Beanut Gallery" moniker this week. It was wonderful to see the outpouring of support and the organic protest that took place. Even though db's DMCA notice was rescinded, let's not forget that there are lots of other recappers, subbers, etc. on DF's hit list, and that the same principles apply. Let's continue to make our voices heard and to show them that when you have messed with the beanies, you have struck a rock!
The whole Drama Fever fiasco I think has strengthened the sense of community for Dramabeans. Go Beanies! I often read OT comments but don't comment, you all seem like a lovely bunch
I feel so pround today of being part of this AMAZING community and the friends I've made here, though i think those girls are lazy these last few days and leaving me alone.
Come back Jeannette! How am I going to fangirl over That Winte/Jo In Sung?
Welcome tweetie!
We are lovely... Normally. ^^ That said we can be like the worst mother-in-laws or ex-girlfriends from Outerspace when we are annoyed. Rawr!
Can someone explain to me what has been going on with Dramafever and other kdrama websites. I read their letter of apology to DB plus the responses. Several people mentioned that DF had gone after the subbers. I'd like to know more about this.
Thanks!
Hello houstontwin!
DF and co is behind the disappearance of a bunch of K related sites: Some cause they were illegal streaming (MySoju, Kimchidrama) and others who were just inoffensive subbing fan sites! A popular subber, Mister X had his site taken down and his work for Reply 1997 erased, Darksmurf community has received threats too... If you have the patience, it's better explained in the comments left at DF: http://blog.dramafever.com/2013/03/a-message-from-dramafever/#comments
Loving Ad Genius Lee Tae Baek so very very much. I will explain more why next week probably.
That Winter the Wind Blows...at this point, I just want them to be together forever as brother and sister. I know it won't happen, but he loves her and he's scared. I think he would try. And just so you know, this is the only drama where stick figures are NOT acceptable screen caps, K?
Queen of Ambition. SO AWESOME. HaRyu is an EPIC master at F'ing with Da Hae at this point, and I love it to an unhealthy degree.
oh oh oh! IRISII! I like it! But I want to punch Blondie Rey in his face. And I'm so hurt by the end of this week's first episode. I feel completely betrayed by Lee Beom Soo.
I do like it, really. It may go south in a bad way later, but for now I'm enjoying the mystery, the romance, and the humor. The action scenes are completely boss, too.
He's not in it very much, and his acting is absolutely atrocious. But yeah, it's TOP, so none of that actually matters.
This time around, in Season 2, they have two idols, Doo Joon from Beast, with a major role - and he's kicking ass in it, I must say; and Lee Joon, from MBlaq. Not doing quite as well, a bit of overacting going on, you can see he's nervous and trying hard. He's made no secret of the fact that he wanted to be an actor, and only became a singer as a way to get in, so I can understand why he is feeling that way. Anyway, he plays a complete ass, and it's quite funny.
He does, indeed. And I like his voice. Not gonna lie, kinda crushing on him a little bit right now. Unfortunately, he is a LOT younger than he looks or sounds.
JoAnne, if you're still reading this, I just checked out the overwhelming amount of characters in IRISII. Is there some way to focus it down? With IRIS, I just focused on TOP.
Yay! Someone else watching IRIS! Lee Boem Sooooo! How could you? And the cliche they saddled Jang Hyuk with...grrrr. He is still a hottie, though, even with the hair.
I'm loving Ad Genius, too. Seriously, it's one of the better dramas out there right now.
And I wish everyone a happy weekend, especially JB and GF after yesterday's excitement. I literally had butterflies in my stomach. Never underestimate a dedicated fan base!
Okay, JoAnne, thanks! IT sounds good. I like dramas with imperfect characters. Okay, I'll try it. Gotta fit it in somewhere. Which will probably be easy now that i've given up on a coupla other shows.
Hey Pillowhead! I got sworn into the DC bar. I've been admitted in NY for years, but needed a local bar admission. Thank you!
As for TOP's bad acting, in all his work, he just plays these fairly expressionless characters. In BigBang parodies of dramas, he has a lot more expression. So maybe he just needs a good comedy?
Just googled DooJoon. He sounds awesome. Will add IRISII!
Yep, Yi Chan is HOT! And I'm rooting for a happy ending for Go Ahri. We know its coming for the hero and heroine, so I'm not too worried about them.
congrats TS! so you are an attorney in DC? that sounds intense. :D
yeah true, TOP is expressionless. When i watch the old mvs, it so weird to see him smiling. i don't like it. i prefer him cool and steely eyed.
I'm enjoying Ad Genius, too! It's not super popular, so the subs are slow, but I'm anxious to watch it before they're 100% complete. You can get the gist of the conversations without the subs, as they don't over-complicate things with heavy dialogue.
It's a little gem, easy to watch, with "real" conflicts.
Carole, what I really, really like is that there are really no ENTIRELY good or bad characters. Our hero has talent and pluck, but he also has a quick temper and completely overinflated sense of his 'worth' to a company. His 'nemesis' is going through an Alice in Cheongdamdong-like scenario where he actually likes the girl he's trying to social-climb marry. Our hero's ex has done some really cold things - but when you see what she's up against, it's hard to blame her. Our hero's mentor is a good guy, but he's also a recovering alcoholic who went downhill so badly his wife actually left him.
The secondary characters are charming and funny, almost without exception. The workplace scenarios are as crazy as you'd expect from a KDrama, but they don't really ever end up exactly as you'd expect, either.
And I could stare at Jin Goo pretty much non-stop for the next 24 hours if he'd let me. He's got a Ji Sung/Rain face structure, and that always gets me. He's new to me with this drama, so I'm liking the discovery!
Hey JoAnne! Sickness seems to be going around, I've had the peskiest cough/cold all week (but sadly, not sick enough to take off work) *sigh*
I'm at such a loose end with nothing on the currently airing kdrama slate that I really feel NEEDS watching, it's back to old episodes of Vampire Idol for unsubbed Woobie my Wuv.
I'm home but not 'off' really - I've got the work computer up next to me and if an email comes in I check it. I have a small task or two that needs to be cleared up today, but otherwise I'm just monitoring. I can't actually talk at this point, so I begged off any telecons scheduled, but otherwise, I'm available to my projects. It's kind of always that way with us, sadly! Probably true for a lot of others, and I have the advantage of being able to do it from home when I'm sick, or the weather is bad (it's snowing again here) - so I really don't mind!
We'll chat really loudly so we'll wake you up *grins mischievously*
because we want you part of the conversation of course!
Before I get to drama watching can I just say I made my first bibimbap in my very own dolsot (my new kitchen toy)!!! The rice isn't quite as crispy as I wanted it, because I was a little paranoid about burning it. Yum yum otherwise.
Draaaamaaaas.
Nothing Korean at the moment. Waiting! Nine hopefully will pull me back in.
Japanese: Tonbi I love this one. It's so simple, but it's just the loveliest story about family love. I don't get why no ones watching it (well, that's the impression I have anyway).
xxxHOLIC 30 minutes a week is NOT ENOUGH. Also spent about 10 minutes trying to remember where I recognised the teacher from and then it dawned on me that his face was familiar from Hana Kimi
Sharehouse no Koibito I'm a bit behind, mostly because I'm starting to lose interest. I'm just not sure what to make of this show or what it is trying to do. I can't quite relate to the characters... I don't know. The only thing I love about it is the opening song (sound and visuals).
Saikou no Rikon Haven't had time to watch it again, quite a bit behind.
Mahoro Ekimae Bangaichi I still haven't started, but maybe I'll just wait till it finishes and then marathon it.
Films.....
watched the Taiwanese GF*Bf* at the opening night of the Pan Asia Film festival and enjoyed it plenty, if anyone is interested in a review, somehow I already managed to write one (ignoring all the other half-written reviews I have in the works).
Lots of films coming up over the next two weeks and I'm also debating whether to attend a screen talk with Moon So-ri in April OR attend the 009 RE: Cyborg Preview. I might able sort of able to do both, because the screen talk begins earlier, so I might be able to sit in for half an hour and then go to the anime screening... Don't know. Have to decide.
Happy Friday everyone... and Long Live Dramabeans! :-)
Oh, I forgot - also watched an oldie - Nagareboshi. Had to marathon it. Watched it originally for Matsuda, who is in a secondary role. But Yutaka Takenouchi (who I had not previously seen in anything) sure was good - he'd say nothing and say so much! Liked Ueto Aya's character as well - not an easy one, but I think her background story explained her well. Her brother meanwhile... I don't know how many times I wanted strangle him!
Again, what I liked most about the drama was the focus on family love (the brother-sister parallel was fabulous, particularly because the show made clear that family isn't blood bonds, but what you make family). Also liked that they raised ethical issues - they didn't fully explore them, especially the legal side, but it did throw some important questions into the forefront.
Queen of Ambition reminds me a bit of Nice Guy and All that Glitters. An ambitious girl who will trample on loved ones to achieve her goals. And,like in Nice Guy, a former lover who brings her down.
Definition sua generis from cult television show Mystery Science Theatre 3000 (circa 1989-1999). Used generally to describe someone stupid, pathetic and ineffective, to-wit:
1. He's nothing but a pathetic dickweed. (see: Me, every day I have to deal with a certain person at my office)
2. On your left, DICKWEED!!! (see: MST3K Episode 416, “Fire Maidens of Outer Space”)
3. What a bunch of dickweeds! (see: aptly summarizing the Great Dramafever/Dramabeans Debacle of 2013)
Happy Friday OT, Fellow Beanies! It is Friday, ne? Given the events of this past week, it’s been one helluva emotional roller-coaster. (Or should that be TROLLER COASTER instead?) I’m glad all worked out with the DF Onslaught against our DB Fearless Leaders, the apology was made and the DMCA notice rescinded -- it has been rescinded, right? But this still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and does not absolve them for the almost-criminal way DF continues to treat the Little People; i.e., the random subber and/or recapper who God forbid dares to cross their path with better work product than DF will ever put up on their website. Being a DF subscriber from almost Day One, I am thinking long and hard about continuing to associate with a company that ‘shoots first and asks questions later,’ because next time they may be coming after you. Just sayin’.
And my heart is full with the outpouring of support everyone here has sent on behalf of the gals. YOU GUYS ROCK! I personally have been the subject of 3 separate DMCA notices in my online life; since I have the background to fight, I did and had all three eventually dismissed. But since everyone is not as well-versed in how to deal with such dickweedy-ness (and there are so many legal points at issue), give me a day or so to digest all that has happened this week and get a post-mortem blog post up sometime this weekend. (And maybe a hand-drawn picture or two for the L7CS recap. Hee!)
Anyway. No drama-watching on my end to report, since 18-20 hour days don’t cotton too well for any downtime. I have almost caught up on “Cheer Up, Mr. Kim” for benefit of mutual forum spazzers, and still find it charming and delightful. I continue to monitor “The Days” musical press and am checking my calendar (and wallet) for a trip to Seoul in late June to catch one of Ji Chang wook's performances. Other than that, it’s workworkworkworkwork. *sigh*
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go beat into submission the group of dickweeds... erm, lawyers I try to manage into acting like humans. A Herculean task, but someone has to do it -- call the cops if I’m not back in 8 hours! Mata ne!
P.S. US Peeps, remember to set your clocks forward on Sunday 10 March -- you don’t want to miss out on any live streams, right? RIGHT!!!
Well said. Don't even get me started on the whole DF fiasco.
Lucky for the DF "people" that we don't have them sitting across a table from us ...... if this were the case, I'm pretty sure the Beanies would pick up their respective water glasses and, do that throw-the-water-splash-action on them!
Hahaha you have just effectively made my day... XD
And you can do it~~~ ^_^ And hi, fellow USian! ^_^
(I'm more accurately a cake (CAIK), but oh wells.. ^_^)
You should take me with you to Korea!!! ><
And could you please tell me what the whole debacle was about? I read the posts and all.. But I've been skimping on my sleep (blame the school) lately... So I'm not understanding what happened and why it happened..
I caught it late in the game, so I still have fresh fan rage.
=P They killed the backbones of the internet whom they STOLE from? --;; And then go after the site that promoted them. Alright, they need to sit down and take basic lessons on how the internet actually works. (I'd argue Hulu does too, but for far different reasons.)
Catch up. The way to promote your website is to show that you are in league with the community you serve, rather than working against it.
I thought Javabeans said she knew the leader of Dramafever when she was promoting it. Sick.
Anyway, they should know enforcing DCMAs never works. As I said on their site.
Zune? Anyone? What is a Zune?
Do you remember when the government in the US tried to break the Internet even though they don't really use it? They went after Megaupload and then the rage doubled... because it just proved they didn't need the law?
Community is also how Wikipedia beat out and bankrupted Encyclopedia Brittanica.
Open Software exploded and PHP so far is beating out ASP as the go to. (Also advancing much faster)
You have to work *with* the internet rather than against it. DCMAs don't work. It may be counter intuitive, but fostering and working with the community will actually make your site grow. Even if some of it is illegal.
Even Anne McCaffrey at the end of her life reversed what her son was doing in enforcing no fan fiction.
Supporting viki now all the way. I hope they get the shows I've requested to lead.
I am still so angry about DramaFever's behavior and everything related to it, I don't even feel like talking about dramas right now.
This whole affair leaves me with a very sour, even bitter aftertaste. Their so-called "apology" smacks of hypocrisy so much, it makes me gag. Because there is a community behind DB that expressed their rage, and it is potentially (or actually) damaging for their business, they're apologizing.
But it is so much worse what they did last year (i.e. to Mr. X and other subbers). Where were we back then? So, while I am proud to be part of this awesome community that stood up for this very site here, I feel ashamed of myself for not being there last year already, when DF first reared its ugly, ugly head.
and yes, we deserve to feel good about what "we", this community, have accomplished - but I do hope that people don't have too short of a memory and forget what happened: and I hope nobody is thinking that this is "over" and that they have learned their lesson. DramaFever (and their "third parties") will continue to push for a KDrama monopoly, probably not only in the US, but also other parts of the world (I have access in Europe now). It is clearly their business strategy and I doubt they're thinking about changing it. It is possible that some of you don't mind about this ... but I do mind. Very much!
Well done, DBers. Truly feeling the oneness with you all. What a professional bunch of lovely peeps. Awesome display of netizens power - kdrama followers at that. Now let it be known that you cross this mighty bunch of Phds, lawyers, med students, artists, IT experts and downright passionate and ethical people at your peril! High five everyone. Ever be alert though for the forces Karachi mention here.
Actually, I was able to make a comment just now. Maybe, like the rest of the site, the behavior is just wonky. I wish I had a dollar for every time their connection conks out on me.
I also just learned about what they did to *small* subbers and other sites illegal though they may be, but those sites did bring a lot of people be the drama addicts they are now.
However, they may have stopped their actions against DB (by blaming it on a third party, which sounds BS to me) but I read from some comments that they're now trying to take down torrent sites so it might affect some streaming sites that they couldn't take down (because they aren't U.S.-based?) so I might not be able to watch even raw episodes in the future. That makes me so much madder. I've already emailed them at their stupid blog twice, sent them a puublic and private message at FB too.
I hope some of the blogs that have a link to their site remove it for now until DF learns how to be a part of the community. There are a lot of us international fans and if it affects our drama-watching because they're trying to monopolize the market, then I hope the response would be even worse than what they received from Beanies.
MTE. I would really hate it if they will keep me or anybody else that liked to watch dramas away from watching them. Unless it we would watch it on Dramafever but I don't really want to at this point, and I can't since none of their stuff is available to me because of where I live and I don't see that really changing anytime soon.
I've been out of it for a couple weeks. (oh btw, was studying for and passed my brokers exam yay, and went for a short vaca to Sapporo :D). But it sounds like I missed something big. Who are these dickweeds?
For once I'm sad it's Friday because that means the end of my week off... and I've got two full-day courses this weekend. Oh joys.
Anyway it's been an exciting few days, hasn't it? It was such a mean and nasty thing they did but look on the bright side - It's made me so proud to be a Beanie and the sense of community definitely feels stronger. And I totally enjoyed the latest L7CS recap - stick figure (+ random old SC) version. It made the show much more entertaining. As much as I love Joo Won, I couldn't get past episode 1.
So on the drama-front, still pretty much obsessed with TWTWB. Even watched episode 8 unsubbed... and surprisingly understood through majority of it. I'm saving the subbed version for this weekend... sth to look forward to in the evening after 10 hours of class.
Before I dash off - wishing all Beanies a very relaxing weekend and GO BEANIES!
Oh. And I have been re-given my job offer! Woot! Just need to decide where to actually work...
Happy Friday everyone!! A great positive from this week's debacle is that it showed how united the Dramabeans community is. I'm so glad to be a part of it :)
Hi everyone!!!
Its a beutiful day here in AZ, its raining! Which I always enjoy since it does not happen often. Glad that things are back to normal here at DB.
I completely enjoy the recap last nigth with it it's random screenshots.
So, since I'm not loving any of the current dramas, I went back to watching some older ones. I started with Shut up flowerboy band, since back in my Kdrama watching infancy I gave up on it. Sooo I'm ready to admit how wrong I was. I'm only 5 episodes in and I'm totally hooked. I really have no clue why I did not like it the first time around. I also wonder if having watched White Christmas, and Can we get married help me change my opinion.
I also started to watch Que sera sera, wow! I only seen about 7 episodes in and if it stays in the same style, it may turn into one if my favorite dramas.
I also gave La vita Bella a try, could not make it pass the first episode. Talk about depressing, no amount of Wookie could make me watch more.
Lastly I stated to watch My girl again, how I love that show.
Soo now I need new (old shows) to watch, I need suggestion please :)
If you like violence...
I would suggest The Man from Nowhere! ^_^ I've watched it countless times..
There is also Haunters/Psychic (has Kang Dong Won)... ^_^
Werewolf Boy is a new one, and it is amazing... Made me bawl my eyes out (I'm not usually one to cry during a movie)...
I liked Devil, with the whole revenge plot.
Also liked Syndrome, greed/medical thriller
Flower Boy Ramyun shop and Dalja's Spring are some good comedies.
I love Daljas spring! So I could watch it again.. FBRS I seen, I like it, did not love it. I need to give the others a try.. I had Devil in my queue for a few months now.
See I was the opposite, I got on the second lead ship, and loved that boy to the end. Even if I have replayed the scene where Jung Il and the Kinchi a few times. I still loved Tall guy a lot more..
I had Devil in my queue for ages, but I avoided it because I don't do melo. But this was a revenge tale on a downright Shakespearean level (the stage strewn with rushes in the first act, and strewn with bodies in the fifth act) and I loved, loved, loved it.
YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYMariD!!!!! for SUFFB and QSS!! u just keep on loving QSS cause it IS gonna get better. oh.. so much better!!!!! now there's 5 of us that share the love. lol. that's not a lot, is it? but I'm so happy. :D
I tried to watch QSS very early in my Kdrama-watching career, and got totally turned off in the first episode with all of the toilet references. I've just started watching it again and now, several kdramas later, it doesn't bother me at all, LOL - I had to be culturally desensitized.
Omg... Same here... It's only been about a year since I started kdramas... I'm still not used to the whole toilet/restrooms jokes in almost every show. Yet know, I just roll my eyes and keep watching.
Finally saw A WereWolf Boy! If that could get recapped somewhere so all the "feels" could be worked out in the comments, that would be awesome. ;-D
Also watched Princess Toyotomi: okay.
And I was comparing Song Joong-Ki and Woobie My Wuv: SJK is beautiful and cute, sure, but Woobie is exquisite, just exquisite.
And Kim Nam-Gil, my first drama hero love? One hot time waiting to happen. ;-)
I'll probably do multiple postings since I'm getting ready for to be sworn into the DC Bar. (How much of a k-drama addict am I that I'm on this thread right now instead of just eating and leaving?)
So, Question For You All: how many boys does a K-Pop Boy Band really need? over 6 seems excessive to me.
Congrats on becoming official, number 1, and number 2 - how odd, I debated that same question this week myself. I think up to 5 is optimal, but I would accept 6.
Ha, thank you! Technically, I've been official since 2004, but in NYC. And I need the DC bar (local) because almost every day, I plan to pick up everything and walk out forever...
I agree with your numbers. Whenever youtube suggests a 9 member band, Block B aside (still super-excessive but love nililli mambo), I freak out and switch back to something on fountain pens.
First congrats.
Second, lol. I always wonder about the number of people neded in a Kpop boy band. You have your Bigbang that seems to be completely ok with just 5 member, yet I wonder how a performance would suffer if let's say TOP was out sick? Who would do his rap sequences? While in an huge group like Super Junior it's ok to b missing a few members. I think SuJu started with 12 members and its now down to 9. It's actually really funny to watch old performances of SuJu when all the members were there and the stage was too small. Someone always crashes in the back..
Lol the most epically cramped stage was for "Show me you love", a collab with tvxq. 13 suju + 5 tvxq = 18 people fighting for camera time and struggling to not fall off :D
13 initial SuJu members. Minus Chinese member Hangeng who sued SM for his unfair contract, Heechul & Leeteuk both now in their mandatory military service, Kibum is concentrating on his acting career (I'm actually not quite sure if he'll ever come back to the group) so we're now down to Siwon, Eunhyuk, Ryeowook, Kyuhyun, Donghae, Shindong, Kangin, Yesung, and Sungmin.
I don't mind a huge number of members in a kpop group since they can be divided into subgroups that perform a particular genre and as long as they do quality stuff. Honestly, I've been a lot disappointed with the last 2 albums of SuJu and I found their earlier stuff (especially the dancing) better quality-wise. They really had great choreography back then. How could one choreograph a 13-member boyband and do a great job of it?
Oh yeah! Forgot about that. I always think that Kyu was part of the group since they've gone through so much and the current rapport is so good and Kyu has grown (and became mean to his hyungs heh).
Hey Tweetie, I was going to watch that this weekend :D. Also totally excieted about Gu Family Book. Can not wait for that. Seung Giiii pale pale!!!!
Has anyone watched Harvest Villa? Just started watching and haven't decided how i feel about it but it's really bizarre. Might be good.
*giggling* at the Boy Band question, because I've heard this mentioned before here and there ..... not so long ago I did hear on some program that most of the time they try to have 7 or some other odd number so as to be able to do the dance formations .... apparently even numbers don't work as well for certain dance formations the choreographers have in mind .... I guess this is why we see the groups with 9 members, 11, etc.
I would say six too but my fav idol band is super junior so... In the end it's the only group along with big bang, tvxq and ss501 (where did they go?!) where I know all the members names. I enjoy listening to multiple groups but only remember the members who stand out to me, like L and Hoya in Infinite or Onew and Key in Shinee.
And btw Dream Girl is my guilty pleasure of the moment. I love the choreo!!
Dream girl... Sigh.. I'm still waiting for my cd... Yesasia your shipping sucks!!!
I'm till waiting for SuJu to go back to their old music days... We need some ballads boys!!! I was not as big of fan of their last cd, even when Spy is my current alarm clock song..
SS501 all went to different agencies, yet they stressed that they haven't disbanded. Basically, they're trying to do the Shinhwa thing, yet it's not really working much right now 'cause one of them started military service last year. The others have all had solo releases in the last 2 years.
Youngsaeng's having a comeback now, and Kim Hyunjoong's releasing a new album by summer. I think.
5, I guess. Big fan of DBSK and SHINee and HOT, and even BSB, NSYNC, and NKOTB and the almight Spice Girls. I suppose I've always gravitated towards 5-membered groups.
Though my current obsession is none other than EXO, just because it's been so long since I invested on a rookie group and I'm just tired of all the drama in the DBSK fandom.
YOU HAVE TO! LOL I put a link to it on DNA ages ago. I married one of them lol. Dated the other. I get around, aww yeah. (someone please make me a SHINee one that I can marry Onew and have baby jinkis wahhh)
I also watched Werewolf Boy a few days ago. Personally, I did not like it much. I think part of it was because when I first heard of it and saw the trailers, I was super excited for it so I may have had very high expectations for it. However, while watching, I kinda felt a bit bored....everything looked beautiful and all, but it didn't seem too exciting. Song Joong Ki was very cute...I just found it funny that he was barely visible during his wolverine mode....like the director didn't want to make him look ugly, lol.
"So, Question For You All: how many boys does a K-Pop Boy Band really need? over 6 seems excessive to me."
ahahahahaha... 12
I use to think more than 5 was excessive but then I got into kpop idol groups beyond BigBang and 2ne1 and I spent an unholy (errr...embarrassing) amount of time on tumblr and YouTube and well....that changed my mind.
Congrats on being a lawyer and all! Awesomeness!!!
I use DB on my smartphone, too, and yes, it is a huge pain! That's why I don't post most of the time, hehe. (Well, also because I'm at work & can't exactly be on my phone all day...) But don't let it deter you!
The normal PC is definitely more comfortable for me. :-)
But maybe I should just buy bigger smartphone? Thanks to productplacement in kdramas, we can see all types of stylish smartphones.
So did I. Until December, when I finally got a new phone, my phone was the one Ha Rim had in Coffee Prince - remember when he slid open the phone with his cheek and handed to his new potential GF? I was sold. I even had the same color. I miss my slidey-phone >sob<
Omg I used to find the galaxy note ridiculously huge but now that I see all the ppl with ginormous phone tablets I feel like it's just the fit size! The power of pretty drama leads.
I am watching L7CS.
But currently am not entirely convinced of the kdrama. Somehow I had the feeling, the last episode wanted to show us chic ski and winter clothing (before the sale starts) instead of developing the story.
And so watching TWTWB.
Beautiful people and beautiful pictures. But I'll probably stop. To melo melo and somewhat nerve wracking. If it were a book, I would scroll to the bottom and read the final scenes. I need to practice my patience.
I also watched AdGenius in one pass.
I kind of like the drama already and want to know what happens next. Ok. I know. The good ones will win.
But the characters are a bit exaggerated (for my taste). Here the cheerful, warm-hearted, spontaneous, creative heroes. And their opponents are good-looking but slick, emotionally cold and sharp marketing strategists. ( who are also just puppets of their superiors). ((I mean, those people really exist. They talk sweetly to you and and looking for your weak points at the same time without sweating.))
Anyway, these suffering silent stares of that evil duo annoys me somehow. Too one-dimensional. But potential is there. I hope for an improvement.
And I am watching xxxHolic.
I'm not a fan of the manga or anime. But I like the drawingstyle of the manga. Reminds me of ART DECO pictures of Aubrey Beardsley or Alfons Mucha. How ever.
I think, the manga style is unmistakable. In particular: the arrangement of people in the scenes, the changing focus from the foreground or background, crazy perspective, many close up shots and so on....
xxxHolic is dark, mysterious, crazy jdrama and very stylish in its own way.
The witch is simply magnificent. Even if you do not like the drama, it's worth watching because of the witch and her georgeous (gothic)-outfits.
I think that the manga reads in a fairly predictable way until around volume six, and then afterward the plot becomes much deeper and more profound. The art is simply gorgeous. I love the style CLAMP went with for xxxHolic.
It was always interesting to me that 95% of the characters in that manga were female. I see in the preview for episode two that they will change some of the minor characters to men probably to add balance. I hope that we might get a different resolution to a certain plot point raised in episode one that is clearly different than in the manga (but I dislike how this particular plot point was handled in the manga).
I agree that the drama team is doing a great job with Yuuko's outfits. They were always so beautifully illustrated in the manga. However, I think they cast her too young. I imagined a more mature woman in this role how I read her.
I think it is not easy to produce a series based on a successful manga (or book). Expectations are always high, and different.
I know that manga and the storyline only a little. Therefore, I can watch the drama relatively unbiased. The smoking scenes in Ep2 I do not like. But I generally do not like chain smoking, not even in movies or dramas - but that's personal preference.
Anyway, I like that drama very well. It's special. (if you can say that after 2 episodes)
Yukoo - too young? Maybe. But I like her mysterious charisma. I wonder what will happen when she is upset or angry?? (goosebumps)
When I'm better about posting, I post from my phone, too. My Blackberry made posting easier but the screen was tinier. My new phone is bigger but it can sometimes be weird about the cursor. AND THE AUTOCORRECT!!! Sorry...my autocorrect gives me fits, as you can see. Still and all, Welcome to the OT! We're always happy to see new faces and hear new voices, no matter what their posting-interface ;)
Happy OT everyone - after the week DB's had, it couldn't come soon enough! (though I'm LOVING the stick figure art in place of caps, it is awesome on one level and actually makes me go into the L7CS recaps)
My currently airing dramas slate is empty at the mo because I don't really care too much about anything and even TWTWB is something I catch up with when I feel like it/have time instead of waiting breathlessly like I used to do with School and FBND (and Arang and Nice Guy before that).
But on the older dramas side, I decided to give Love and Marriage a try because I like both the actors so much (Kim Ji-hoon and Kim Min-hee!) and even though I like them a lot, the show's not great. But it's ok, and I'm only on episode 2 anyway.
Also, pertinent to the DB community - Yoo Seung-ho sneaked off to military service this week! No farewell, just a fan cafe message and his new buzz cut. I bet two years will fly past...
He's promised his fans another acting project in 2013, so fingers crossed that it happens and that it's good!
Arang aired with some strong competition in the genre stakes (melo >>> fantasy sageuk for a lot of Korea) , but I think 13-14% average ratings were solid, if not spectacular.
Oh but those ratings don't sound awful....the way everyone was talking about it in the recaps, it sounded worse so I thought it must've been really bad. But that's pretty good. I guess it was Nice Guy raking in all the numbers.
I have to add that I'm watching him now in I Miss You. I remember seeing him here and there for the past couple of years and not really paying attention to him. To me he was always "Baby Minjae" (from his Flames of Ambition days) ..... then he appeared in I Miss You as Harry..... wow! ..... pure awesomeness from Yoo Seung-ho at every turn ..... he's not a baby anymore!
Hope everyone is doing well. Am trapped inside with all this snow. Not really cabin fever but a growing impatience with winter. I couldn't watch a lot of dramas this week because I was also trapped with proofing. Mercifully next week my time will be a bit freer.
I've given up watching Incarnation of Money. Am still vaguely interested in it, which means i'll read the DB recaps but that time jump in which our hero becomes slightly corrupt just totally did not sit well with me. Am also not watching 100 year inheritance. Will just wait until the last episode. The heroine of 100 years just takes the victimized good woman to a whole nother level and her finally coming to life is coming a might too late. I'm thinking the reason I love these two dramas is because of the ballsy older women. Boss/Gentleman of Jjingae and MIL from hell.
Was glad that Nobunaga didn't finish with the last episode. Looks like we have a few more to go. I can still stop time and gaze on Ken's wonderful lips. Am hoping Youko is a sister or something but (weirdly) if she and Ken are an item, I'm shipping the present. I want Ken to return to the present, period. So whatever happens -- if youko has to die or Ken has to leave Natsu-- then let it happen.
Liking Shotenin a lot. Hottie school friend is just soooo wonderful. He just creeps me out and I fear for our heroine being forever linked and beholden to him. And his would-be squeaky perfect girlfriend is kinda weird as well.
Watching Virus, which i really like as well although sometimes it is a might over-the-top. Still, i like all the characters...even if they are a bit cliched. Am really trusting this drama. Liking Hottie typhoid Mary/Mario as well.
Liking Assholic live drama version and waiting for Otome-san. Also waiting for the subs for Monsters and Switch girl. Waiting for a couple of samurai dramas to be subbed, and waiting for new sajeuks to pop up this month. And my time travel addiction.
Trying to catch up on Queen of Ambition, Conspiracy in the Court, Palace. Still haven't watched TWTWB. I really have to be in the mood for a melo, especially one where i feel i already know the ending.
Hey Carole! I have the same feeling as you re: TWTWB, it needs one to be in the mood for it and I am just.....not. I don't even care about the will-Soo-get-busted thing any more, though that's really just my mood and I'm sure it'll be exciting when I get around to watching it.
Melo requires a willingness to be manipulated into caring and a willingness to be dragged through the ringer for valid reasons....and...well...I like the set up of TWTB. I love brother sister dramas but when one has seen a thing before.... Anyway, I started watching it and didn't make it through the first episode. But so many folks have been liking it.
On the other hand, I kinda liked the first episode of Ad Genius but the set up was just not doing anything for me. So although I liked it..I expected all kinds of silly machinations...notwithstanding how good the first episode was. But who knows?
I'm on the fence with this drama. I do kinda like the lead actor. I think he's good in this role even though SOME people disagree. lol. just kidding Enz. In some scenes he's really handsome but he has really bad posture especially when he wears the chiminey sweeping outfit.
I keep wondering about him being abandoned and if they'll use that to mess with us in some sick fauxcest way. Bummy is way cute in this and his acting is improving. relief.
actually that wouldn't be fauxcest anymore would it, it'll be just plain old incest. eek.
Oh, wouldn't it be wild if Song Hye-kyo's character was actually really maniplative and lieing about the step mom. That little miss perfect was actually Kra-Kra?
I am watching TWTWB but am not one of those loving it so much. Just interested to see where it will go but not really invested in any of the characters. And yes, pillowhead is right, I am not (yet) So impressed with JIS's acting either.
TS - if there's anything that's really holding me to that drama, it's the beta couple - Bummie and Eun-ji are every bit as adorable together as I wanted them to be (and ep. 9 had me in SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!) even though I'm scared her Soo-crush will rear its head again and while I don't mind it wild-carding Soo, I don't want it to hurt Jin-sung,
Carole, I remember how you really liked Incarnation of Money for first 6 episodes even though there were a lot of people (including me) griping about it in ep 5-6.
But I'm on the same page as you too. I'm very disappointed in Cha Don post-second leap. I'm all for antiheroes but they have to have a compelling reason for being one. Here, I couldn't understand why on earth Cha Don was like that when he had always had a sense of righteousness since childhood. Such a personality whiplash didn't sit well with me at all. :(
But yeah....I'm still vaguely interested in the story so I will simply rely on recaps for now and wait until the connection between Cha Don and his mom is made again.
EXACTLY!!! On the one hand there re plotting issues that I will dislike in ANY story. On the other hand, I'm not much of a fair drama-viewer. There are things I will forgive one drama for and totally dislike if another drama does it. For whatever reasons. But what i cannot stand is laziness on the part of wriring, especially when it's about a character simply changing.
If the writers are saying in a tongue-in-cheek way that it was all inevitable for our hero to become corrupt....that evil tends to happen, and good guys will go bad if helped toward evil by money etc, I wouldn't mind. After all, Kang Seok was his dad's son and who knows there might have been some seed of evil and cynicism planted in the kid from back in the day? But good lord! To skip over Cha Don's change and to skip over soooooooooooo many plot points...and to have the folks either not change or to have them change in so many strange ways.... I just lost my ability to cut the show some slack.
Heh, I actually stopped watching IOM at episode 6 because of time constraints but I might not pick it up again based on what you say, or maybe wait and see how it evolves...
There are so many other great drama to watch so why waste time on a so-so one. IF you like Japanese dramas, you might like Tonbi or Mahoro .... Both are really really really good. Mahoro is more episodic but Tonbi has a sweet plot to it.
You know, I think I read somewhere that TWTWB is a remake of a movie, then jap drama. I googled some, and chickened-out... Do I really want to know the ending and spoil it for myself?
I am really tempted to ask you about the ending.... er I CAN'T DECIDE! Should I?
I watched the movie version (Love Me Not) and like half the movie was already covered within the first two episodes. Because of that, I think the show might deter from the movie and possibly the Japanese drama (haven't watched that one so I'm not sure). So it's really up to you whether you want to know the ending or not. However, I would say the ending was very vague and put up for interpretation so it also depends on what you thought the ending might have been.
Word is that this writer likes to deviate from source material, so I would not put too much stock in the characterizations/plot from previous versions of this story.
Ok then can I'll just try not to think of the ending (trying very hard) and stare (really concentrate) at the pretties!!
I avoid melo, because I don't want to have to explain my puffy eyes. Also it sounds ridiculous that I am crying becase of a drama right? Closet addict :P Only hubby knows.
TWTWB is my first melo in a long time. Not only is it beautifully shot, how can I say no to Jo In-sung, Song Hye-gyo AND Kim Bum?!
I hope all is well now that we've calmed down some, haha.
Haven't watched this week's episodes of That Winter yet, and I haven't watched yesterday's Level 7, either. I am super behind on Incarnation of Money, too. So many dramas, so little time!
And I *still* haven't seen SHINee's comeback stage! What is wrong with me?!
Random question: Do Koreans use Instagram? I want to look at my fave Kpop/Kstars every place possible!
Yep!
YG Ent.'s singers have started using Instagram...
^_^
And probably so have other singers, but I'm not really interested in singers themselves as much as their music. ^_^
Happy Friday, everyone! It seems like the week has gone by so slowly...
I'm just about finishing up with Best Love. I am totally in love with this drama! In episode 14, I was just bawling my eyes out half of the time. But then again, I cry easily. But it's so. Good. Definitely a fave.
I'm also trying to decide what to watch next. Queen Inhyun's Man is next up on my list, but I'm kinda in the mood for more of a melo or at least more serious drama; but then again, QIHM isn't a slapstick comedy, either. Indecision strikes again! I could also go back to some of my unfinished dramas, like SUFBB or Who Are You. Or School 2013, I really wanted to watch that...although I'll probably just end up sticking to my list.
I read the recaps for White Christmas the other day and LOVED them. I totally wish I could handle watching it, but I'm one of the biggest scaredy-cats there is so I'm absolutely positive I couldn't do it. The sorrow...and I have always had a thing for Lee Soo-hyuk, so to have him, Sung Joon, AND Kim Woobin in a drama that I can't watch? This is awful, haha.
Best love.. It's still one of the only dramas were I love the lead even when he was an a#%. I still can't look at a bottle of vitamin water and not picture his face on it.
I would totally suggest watching white Christmas. The cast is great and the sound track is to die for. Plus Wobin, and his red hair...
Haha, I might end up breaking down and watching White Christmas anyways, although I'm sure I'll regret it when I'm trying to sleep at night. xD It's just so good...especially Woobin and his red hair.
I'll be sure to check it out! And I am leaning more towards QIHM for my next drama...especially since I'm on spring break and could probably finish it all within the next week. :D
Hi beanies!
So I started watching Brain this week and I'm currently in ep 19. I see why Shin Ha Kyung got the major acting awards due to his performance as Lee Kang Hoon. With that said, I hated his character from day one and whenever I felt a twinge of sympathy, he did something dickish and I go back to hating him lol. I think I prefer Golden Time instead of Brain as I liked the progression of the characters on the show, how they got better, how they struggled to make a trauma unit when bureaucracy is waiting to rear its ugly head and take back all the advances they have made. I liked how the male/female lead complimented each other and both were competent. It was interesting to watch Lee Sung Min portray 2 surgeons in the 2 shows who were completely different from each other. He was such an angel as Dr.Choi in Golden Time while such a douchebag (Dr. Go Jae Hak) in Brain.
Yay!!! Friday!!! One more week until Spring Break. The boys are definitely looking forward to it. I can't believe it's March already. Or that we're about to 'spring forward' this weekend. Or that I'm 1 week shy of having a second teenager.
Well, I'm off to clean my house and then catch up on the last two episodes of Ad Genius that I haven't seen yet. Have a great weekend everyone!!
Hi all!
My laptop's crashed recently, and the repair is so expensive I won't be able to watch dramas at home in the nearest future.=( It also means I have to pretty much live in the office, which leads to my question of the week (ahem): what are your favourite workplace dramas (K,J or T)? what do you think of the way work, especially office work, is portrayed in dramas?
I remember it was quite low-key but I especially love watching Jan Nara and Daniel Choi together :) Which is why I watched 2013, then it lead me to Kim Woobin...
I've tried several workplace dramas of various countries and none really did it for me except the Indian version of Ugly Betty (and that was before the story derailed terribly) and the Tdrama My Queen. I tried Anego a long while back but quit it for some reason (forgot what it was).
The trouble with workplace dramas is that they have the tendency to go into boring machinations of the workplace that really doesn't interest me. As for portrayal, I think it's decent enough...sometimes there are bloopers/illogical stuff but that's about it.
Hi Oftheshore!
Sorry to hear about your laptop. I can tell you in secret that I bought a little (10'screen) second-hand netbook. It is my portable device and is used to tide me over in cases of emergency (that is when my parents' computer breaks and they use my main laptop). It cost me as much as a bottle of perfumes, so when you have some spare cash, you might consider aquiring one too. One with keyboard is IMO more useful than a tablet.
AS for the workplace dramas, I am not a great fan. Mainly because the protagonist is or wants to be the best professional in the country/world. And that is absurd in my opinion. You need years of practice and hard work and tons of talent to be a true master in any trade, whereas characters in dramas are in their early twenties and kings of their profession. And call me dumb/lazy, but I wouldn't care to compare myself to others. I am all for being good at what you do, but when I see "I will be better than you!!!" I am usually a bit upset. I like developing skills to become better myself, not to feel superior to someone else. Not to mention, that it is seldom assessible who is better. Basing on how many trials? Asking how many experts?
I personally do my best to provide people with possibly good service (be it teaching ot translating) and what matters is whether they are satisfied and whether I, in my own conscience, know that I helped them in best possible way. I know there are people with more experience and skills and I am glad to learn from them or receive constructive criticism, but I know that becoming a master is a lifelong process.
What I like though, is presentig people at work in a realistic but not very serious tone, vide A Gentleman's Dignity. Kim Do Jin and Tae San were shown dealing with different kinds of customers, solving problems; they were passionate, but it was their work - something you need to do in order to live, not the other way round. Actually, I enjoyed YiSoo at her school, too.
I hope you have a lovely weekend. *off to see the series about Anna German in TV*
Interesting week this has been. WATCHed werewolf boy n it was good. Has its happy and sad moments. No chef is still going. Almost to the end n but hoping it would end well, even if it's a bit sad.
Checked out a few lakorns but storyline wasn't to impressive so dropped it. Might check out old wuxia series since the new ones aren't that interesting.
Have a good all!
PS, love this site! It's my second home. Thank you dramabeans for all you do. ^^
I am relatively new to k-everything.....maybe since October-ish? Well, I am hooked, naturally.
First, glad the DF/DB issue is perhaps cleared up? LOVED the drawings and that would be fun to continue. I may even try my really poor hand at it one day...and yes, DB you can own the rights to that with my blessing. Oh yeah, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SITE AND RECAPS GF and DB!!
Second, what is up with My Daughter Seoyoung?? The subbing is unbelievably slow. For a popular show, do they not want us to watch? Have you given up on this or know why this is SO delayed? I'd like to get to the end and move on.
Third, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE TWTWB!! Did anyone notice that in episode 8 there were similar songs to I Miss You? I had to convince myself I was not having some strange brain event. Is there a shortage on music from which to choose? (I loved I Miss You, by the way). Seems we are getting more twisty with the layers of who is connected (brother/thug, sister/national known brain specialist...saw that coming, didn't you?) Just watched ep9 so now I have almost a week before the next episodes come out so...
How to fill my time?? So far, this is what I am following and watch the movies the actors I like are in, but I need more suggestions. What do you think I should watch?
1. TWTWB
2. My Daughter Seoyoung (IF they ever get around to subbing the remaining episodes...grrr!)
3. Running Man (Love this!)
4. 2D1N (when I can find it subbed)
There are so many dramas that I can give you but I'm not sure where your tastes lie....so I'll just give you some of my favorites.
1. Vampire Prosecutor 1 and 2 (you will fall in love with sexy Prosecutor Min)
2. Arang and the Magistrate (you will just fall in love with Lee Jun Ki)
3. Gaksital (you will fall deeply in love with Joo Won :D )
4. Can You Hear My Heart? (I just finished watching it a day ago and even though it's very long [30 episodes = 30 hours], it is worth the time. I found the first 4-5 episodes boring so I literally skipped them over, read their recaps instead, and moved to the adult storyline which was way better)
I like more than I don't...can I be more vague? I like a balance so if there a a good melo, I like to balance with a good rom-com. The idea is that is is good. For example, I won't watch Level 7 because it sounds too choppy and confusing...love the drawings for it though!
Okay, how about this...(in no order)
Hated...
Oohlala Couple (stopped watching it…)
Just, meh...
Faith (held on for LMH only)
I am Sam
Playful Kiss (cute, but young)
Dream High (cute, but young)
Liked...
City Hunter
Personal Taste
Something Happened in Bali (except the end…really??! Pfft!)
Can We Get Married
Hotelier
Lie to Me
A Gentleman’s Dignity
Boys Over Flowers (between meh and liked)
Full House
The Woman Who Still Wants to Marry
Operation Proposal
Loved...
I Miss you
Padam Padam
If you are seeing a pattern, if I sort of like who was in it, I watched their other work.
Hmm ok, let me try! You seem to really like melo which I have a tendency to avoid ha!
My Princess - fluff, really enjoyable and cute - harmless fun really. With eye candy like SSH, why not? Kim Tae Hee was so lovable, I considered forgiving her in IRIS.
Prosecutor Princess - I think the plot is solid, a little melodramatic (trying not to give too much away). I really like Kim So Yeon hence I watched this and I do not regret it at all! Although I can understand if you might be turned off from this due to the recent PSH real life drama. Give this a try!
Arang and the Magistrate - This is the first show I like Lee Jun Ki! (Well the only other one of his I watched was My Girl and his role in that was kind of meh). I think this show was really underrated.
Queen In Hyun's Man - sooo hot!! Highly recommended. Really enjoyed the storytelling.
The King 2 Hearts - but then I like Lee Seung Gi like girlfriday. It was gripping, but the villian was quite insane and a little unbelievable?
These are all quite recent. I am not sure if you are like me but sometimes I cannot watch old stuff because I can't stand the fashion! So I shall not list too dated stuff, because it might not stand up to viewing now.
Only very very good shows can overcome the dated fashion, and withstand the test of time...
I had to laugh at the fashion comment because i am the same way. I felt compelled to watch Winter Sonata and Full House as they were mentioned as being staples. However, there is such a difference in clothing - back then was very loose and baggy and now it is skinny everything, tailored and structured. I tend to like the latter, though I love me a pair of cargo pants and a well-cut suit on a man! Let's leave the excessively tent-y clothing behind. BYJ was practically lost in his Hotelier clothing...LOL
I'm watching (when I have time) 2D1N in a Joo Won fansite, they're a few episodes behind but it's easy to watch it there. I think the newest episode they have is when the Olympic winners were special guests.
I'm biased, so I always suggest Coffee Prince before anything else. :D Based on what you said, you might like Que Sera Sera. If you like father-daughter dynamics, you might also enjoy Who Are You.
I totally agree with you Coffe Prince ( my first K-Drama ever!) Que Sera Sera great dorama and Who Are You? OMG the lead guy is so cute! But i like him better in Best Love
Yup! I just watched ep 1 of Coffee Prince and like it already. So far, YEH is doing a great job as a tomboy/boy. The noodle scene was funny. Thanks to all! :)
Update: I am marathoning this as the subbing on my other shows is SO SLOW. BTW, I did noticed that the subbing on DF is really mediocre at best for this drama.
The Chaser
Syndrome
Faith
Arang and the Magistrate
Flower Boy Ramyun Shop
Iljimae
Return of Iljimae
Flower Boy Next Door
City Hunter
History of a Salary Man
Devil
In Time
Ma Boy
Ordinary Love
I love Lee Tae Ri
Sign
DB also says Conspiracy in the court is good but i haven't seen that yet.
Hi Waiting!!I've been watching about 10 months now, so I think I'm still relatively new but it feels like I've been an Kaddict forever.
I watched the BigBang episodes of RunningMan. LOVED it. Planning on watching more RM.
Yes, DayDreamer is so right..watch Arang. one of my favoites. Also loved My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, LSG is adorkable in it, but it leans towards the silly. QueSeraSera and Joseon X files are also my favorites but those seem to be less popular.
m sorry, how did I miss this post....gotsa help a beanie out! m just gonna copy n paste all the kdramas that i have watched n narrow the list down for u....
most definitely agree that u should watch coffee prince cause that show is the shiz! it was my 2nd kdrama but its my fave one and nothing i have watched so far has ever managed to knock it down my list.
Best Love/the Greatest Love
My Lovely Sam-Soon
City Hunter
Protect the Boss
History of a Salaryman - died n went to heaven laughing
Once upon a time in Saeng chori - also died n went to heaven laughing
My Girlfriend is a Gumiho - love Shin Mina for eva!
Secret Garden - u falls so much in love with Hyun Bin n Ha Ji Won
The woman who still wants to marry - such an amazing show...just gave me feels in every episode!
Answer me 1997 - so much feels in every episode...
so much more but then i would take up so much space...hahahaha. ENJOY!!!!!
happy OT to all agashis.(yay ! I can speak(bit of) Korean :) )
while I'm still on first episode of TWTWB and FBND I think I ll catch up this weekend !!
Also did you all feel this week was shorter?? (heh)
uhuhuhuhuh my university semester results.. damn worried about them :(
I had the most amazing dream. It was like i was stuck in a love quadrant with every awesome bromance pair any Korean drama has ever churned out. It was.... For want of a better word.... Nice. Real nice. *sleazeyness alert*.
I have a confession to make. I haven't finished a drama. Since at least a year ago. I find myself feeling bored near the endow a drama. I feel slightly let down. I mean is ittto o much to ask for another flower boy ramyun shop or city hunter or delightful girl or even (minus the last 5 episodes) Sungkyunkwan?
In other news I am excited about Jang Ok Jung. Super excited.
Oh my goh!!! Envying your dream!!!! Haven't had a good foursome with a dream-hottie ever! And the last time i dreamed of an actor it was Ben Cross. Sweet dream -- and sweet guy-- but not particularly passionate. So yeah...mucho dream-envy going on in these parts.
I have the same problem - not with all the dramas I watch, but with...let's just say, quite a few. I think that my interest wanes as the main conflict gets resolved. Writers tend to run out of ideas by episode 12-14, and it usually shows. :(
Hi, hi! I always look forward to Friday OT with the beaners!
The Virus –I count 3 legit Flower Boys so far ~ Lee Ki-Woo – [Pillar♥, FBRS; Park Min-Woo, also FBRS, and Hyun Woo♥.
Thinking The Virus should be renamed FBBSOE (Flower Boy Blood Shooting Out Eyes). After watching 10 seconds I chucked my tuna fish sammy in the sink. N5R1 bird flu pandemic – fowl play?
IRIS 2 - It finally dawned on me who Jang Hyuk (who I love in IRIS 2 and Midas) reminds me of – Ben Affleck. But, Ben Affleck is not on my hot list. Puzzling.
Rey – evil incarnate. What have you done to Yoo Gun?
L7CS – Saved by the drawings in the recaps (if you haven’t seen them, check it out – perfectly hilarious!) ziggystardust’s final stick figure montage sums up the whole drama. It may be the start of L7CS anime! Keep up the good fight, db team. What a debacle. You are awesome! As for L7CS, it was a pity how most of the actors (male and female) in this kdrama were dumbed down.
TWTWTB – sis/bromance bedroom scenes. AGAIN. That kiss-miss-kiss as he tucked her in bed (I know he knows he’s not her brother, but whoa. Just whoa.) not looking (wince). looking. not looking (wince). looking… and his head conversation about crossing the line…so conflicted~
Survival Audition Kpop Star 2 (eng sub)– marathoned eps 1-8 pulling an all nighter. The talent blows my mind ~ Bang de yen, l’il bro, amazing! Check out this radical audition of Thriller by Raccoon Boys (ignore the bad name, no possible explanation for that). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wstqn7g_w1E Chiller!
Jdrama fun~
Share House – yay! 3 more episodes translated this week. Completely whacky/funny/odd. My dream art studio is the tree house in the sky, so funky~
Saikou no Rikon – Ryo, I gave you the benefit of the doubt. So did Akari. You didn’t deserve it, but you are who you are. Dang, I would have fallen for you too. That’s the problem.
“Wah! you’re so obedient. Maybe our marriage would have worked out if your ribs were broken the whole time.” (ep 5)
Nobunaga no Chef – Ken, I would love you as my BFF. Between Natsu, Youko, and Kaede – I choose dark horse Kaede (female ninja rocks it every time- hyah!!) Must be a part 2 ep 8 for the ending?
xxxHolic ep 2 - “An accident? Is there an accident in this world?” Dark, forbidden.
Off to watch (Raccoon Boys) Thriller for the umpteenth time (eeeee~smile~)
Yes, yes,yes... some of the victims (and infectors) in Virus are sooooooooo gorgeous. Love travelling around disease-spreading hottie. And yes, Ken!!! Oh my gosh!!! Ken. I love my hubby but wow, if I could just have Ken for my very very very own...in whatever era.
Owl - I am so glad xxxHolic is good, though I wonder how they're going to use the teeny-tiny number of episodes to cover an entire arc of the manga (because surely they can't do the whole manga, especially not the Tsubasa crossover parts...)
I don't think they are even going to try cover the entire arc of the manga... I think they are just going to be episodical, without telling the greater story that emerges from the whole manga.
They might be purposefully open-ended so that if the 8 episodes are successful, they can just extend and do more seasons.
I haven't seen episode two yet, but I kinda suspect that they might re-write a smaller arc for the drama, because Kimihiro's mother appears in a flashback in episode one, but, ah...that's a bit different than what happens in the manga.
Hey Owl! Now I have to watch Virus. Flower Boys Blood Shooting Out Eyes!!!! can't think of a better way to get me to watch. :D
Is xxxholics the japn. anime? or is this a korean remake?
I haven't had much experience with anime except for Death Note. Brilliant but I never finished it maybe cause I'm just not into anime but I'll give the the anime version of xxxholics a try. thanks cv:D
Pillowhead, I am new to japanese anime, and I really enjoyed Ouran High School Host Club anime. Also there are a couple of older anime movies, Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, which you might like. I am watching xxxoholic as a jdrama without having previously read the manga. So, I don't have a comparison to make and so far, I like the jdrama version (it's eng subbed on dramacrazy.net)
If you want a really good anime, try "Natsuyuki Rendezvous" --a great haunting love story. But, if you like high school horror, try "Another." If you like just plain silly, try "Sket Dance"...although Sket Dance has a lot of wink-wink nudge-nudge visual references to other anime, it's definitely a tour de force of anime parody.
I love, love, love Dad, Where Are You Going! But sad at the moment because halfway through episode 2, the videos were not loading properly. Sucks. Now I have to wait for an optimum time to download before I can finish watching. But I love the little guy Hoo since he's so mature for his age (offered to live in the worst of the houses so that the hyung won't cry) and sweet (ah, the crush with the little girl is so cute!).
Omo Hoo's love for Ji Ah knows no bounds! The kids they chose are awesome. I love that each kid has a different dynamic with their dad. Ji ah has the adoring father who just pampers and gives into his kid. Hoo and his dad are basically best buds. Lee Jong Hyuk (A Gentleman's dignity guy) is that dad who is the same age as his kid. Joon reminds me of a little Sung Shi Kyung for some reason, I think it's the hairdo. I'm glad he's loosening up with his dad because I was quite worried in the beginning about how quiet he was. And the eldest kid (I forget his name), the 9 year old is a sweet kid but a bit of a cry baby. I can tell his father worries he cries too easily.
Another thing that cracks me up is how Joon and Lee Jong Hyuk's kid are always paired together but they don't have anything to talk about.
HEH the kids are adorable. Lee Jong Hyuk acts more like a son than a dad it cracks me up. XD I LOVE HOO. He's really mature for his age! This show is like 2D1N ala kids and dads edition. LOVE.
I love, love, love Dad, where are we going !!! (That comes up so naturally haha) I don't have a favourite kid since they are all adorable and it's like asking a mom whom she prefers the most of her kids. I'm sad that the subs are soooo slooooow,but happy that @ShiaReagy took the project.
Just a drive-by posting, as I am leaving town in a couple of hours and am still sitting in my jammies, lol.
Finished FBND, loved the fluff. It kind of went wonky near the end, but I have to say I enjoyed it regardless. Now I'm attempting to catch up on QOA because of JoAnne and KLNoona's ravings about it. Love it so far, only up to eo 14, so still a couple more before I"m up to date. I dropped L7CS due to lack of time...so little time, no time to waste on dumb stuff and it was getting dumber and dumber. Trying to catch up on IOM, only on ep 8, but like it so far, KJH is hilarious.
That's about it. Proud of the beanut gallery for inundating evil DF with emails, and glad that they saw the error of their ways, at least this time. I wouldn't count on it not happening again, though, which is sad.
@RickyHRH said he wouldn't be on OT today because he's studying for a midterm tomorrow, but waves "hi" at everybody. Maybe he'll have time to be back next week. He's a hardworking student, though, so who knows....
Ya'll have a great weekend, I'm off with my BFF's and our daughters to a women/teen girl conference for the weekend.
I'm watching Secret Investigation Record...completed only ep 1
planning to watch Incarnation Of Money, or continuing rather as I already watched 4 episodes, but got super busy after that....and I have an important interview coming up next week.....after that, I will start my drama marathon from next week :)
I downloaded it and have been putting JXF for like what, a year?? After FBND it is back on my radar again. Hmm looks like I should go watch it for Kim Ji Hoon!!
I think you're right ..
you need to be in the mood else u wont get carriedaway on it ! but you should watch TWTWB.. (hehee u know I like melos :))
I just completed the first episode and found it very new as a story !
I agree about the episodes. Twenty three minutes (or twenty six minutes or whatever) feels too short for the narrative. I wanted them to cast Yuuko a bit older than they did. Himawari's hair really bothers me - I get that the pigtails are a mainstay of her character, but the way they did her bangs is really unflattering on that actress.
Also, from the sounds of things, they've done away with the comedy, which is too bad.
DramaBeans opened my eyes to shower scenes. Mr. hand Towel's posting had me ROFL. Huzzah to chocolate abs. Kakashi's shower scene posts made me smile.
But I got to thinking ... my focus has been on men getting soapy, but shouldn't women getting clean also be a list somewhere? Are there less scenes of women in the shower than men in Dramas?
These are a few of the female bathing scenes I could remember
Painter on the Wind: communual bathing at the river
Sungkyunkwan Scandal: Peeking at Kim Yoon Hee in the bathhouse
Love Rain: Hot Springs bathing surrounded by snow
When It's At Night: Art investigator at the Japanese spa
Fireworks: Falling into someone else's bathwater counts, right? Esp. if you steal their towel.
Tamra, The Island: JeJuDo diver Beo Jin needs an honorable mention for swimming
Hana Kimi: If you are pretending to be a boy, you should lock the shower door
Prosecutor Princess: Share a room with a stranger, don't fall asleep in the bath
Game Rai Game Rak: Nang Fah joining the boys at the swimming hole innocently
Hmm. I noticed that the ones I remember have more than one person.
Nang Fah is my favorite for her blissful joy "I'll shower with you. Why can't a man and woman shower together?" My sentiments exactly. ha ha ha
I think baths are more popular than shower scenes when it is a woman, just because women have bits up top that can't be shown,
Which reminds me of the story about Lwaxana Troi's mud bath filming on Star Trek where as the day went on the mud levels got lower and caused a whoopsie.
I rewatched Tamra The Island a couple of days ago, and I have to say that I loved most of the underwater scenes there, especially the one in the last episode, where all of the women divers work together to sink the ship. It's so beautiful, how the women divers did their parts to protect their island and also how the exact scene was shot, them diving into the sea with fireflies lamps in the night was stunning
The bath scene in SSK really cracked me up, seeing Moonie's expression and him hiccuping was just priceless!
And the shower scene in Hana Kimi also had me rofl-ed esp when Nakatsu had nosebleed because of that.. :D
Say, you were in one of those makjang accidents where a certain part of your memory was erased. In this case it was Asian dramas. You were told that in order to make a full recovery, you needed to jog your memory with the best dramas ever while you were bed ridden recovering from the other injuries. (Which is not instant! cancer or instant! blindness)
Which ones would you seriously choose for that hypothetical self? And which ones would you absolutely say that it would hurt your recovery?
I was considering this because there are some dramas I would watch while in bed... that I wouldn't normally like.
And you know I've watched a lot of dramas to come up with an overblown scenario like this.
For me:
Watch list
It Started with a Kiss and They Kiss Again. (Watch it for the gazillionth time, just give me the remote for the rain kiss scene so I can do it on auto play.)
Greatest Love
Near the end of my recovery, though, 'cause it's likely I'll be jumping about and cringing and crying over the potato.
Hotaru no Hikari
What I wouldn't give to be able to see it with utterly fresh eyes and have a marathon with it. (whole series)
Nodame Cantabile>
Chiaki-sama~
Trick (all)
Definitely would love to see it with fresh eyes.
Liar Game (Maybe not the second movie)
Near the end of the recovery. Makes you think and question a lot. Easily able to marathon it.
Hana Yori Dango
Full Series. And yes, the Japanese version. And keep that anime version away from me. This is perfect for drama recovery.
Reply 1997
OMG, drama crack. I just hope the subs are not from Dramafever and that Yoon Yoon Je's name is spelled correctly.
I'm on the fence about Goong and My Princess... I liked them, but I'm not sure I'd want to marathon them while immobile. I have others in this flavor too... where I really like them, but I don't know if I would like to marathon them, especially laying down.
Avoid list
I'm Sorry I Love You
I regret watching it at all. Mostly for the adoption issues and the overblown ending.
Prince's First Love
Scarred me for life as my first K-drama. I was lucky I recovered from the utter shock and came back. Sung Yuri was in it, which marred her reputation for being able to act such that the Hong Sisters thought they had to defend her for Hong Gil Dong. It did so poorly in Korea the max was 3%? I think? You can invent drinking games around it. One of the worst dramas ever. (was up on a bit torrent website for dramas, which I am not mentioning, since dramafever devils are watching) and was put in a poll for
seeding, and it failed for over three months to get enough support to get seeded. When people actually did watch it, the majority reported regretting it, just like the other commenters said they would.
Yeah, keep that drama away from me.
You? If you could clean your slate of dramas, which would you tell yourself to recover with?
Nodame Cantabile Love Shuffle Hana Kimi Kimi wa Petto
Basically all the whacko ones that crack me up hundred miles an hour... Of course, if I had amnesia, I might run screaming from them, because, let's just say the first time I watched Nodame I did not get beyond episode one.
Later on (near the end of recovery) I think I would go for some bromance, you know, SUFFB and School 2013.
What I wouldn't watch... A Thousand Kisses and any others involving love triangles with exes or wannabe girlfriends as love rivals. And nothing melo (I don't watch that anyhow - only melo films).
"there are some dramas I would watch while in bed…"
I watch all dramas while in bed. But that's because I'm in a shared house and my room's my place, and my bed is where I sit and do everything. (I do have desk but there are things piling up high and I haven't actually got a chair.)
Kim Yoomni, for me it would forever be It Started With a Kiss and They Kiss Again because I watched that a gazillion times and never, ever, ever, ever got bored of it. All the damn scenes with Ariel and Joe together are enough for me to go squeeing eternally. So if I had amnesia, I would most certainly watch that series again and then for another million times. Then hope for another amnesia, LOL.
P.S. I'm so glad to know someone here who also adores this series as much as I do.
I love Winnie's dramas, but there is something about It Started with a Kiss and TKA that lends itself to this kind of watching more than his other dramas.
I mean, In Time with You I liked, but it's more like a lesson in art, direction and literature. And The Rose is excellent, but it's something I need a break to savor. (I stayed up late watching it the first time...)
I loosely belong to a group that helped sub TKA and ISWAK. But still, I've had to stop myself from marathoning it yet again a few times. (I bought the ISWAK box set raw, I loved it so much)
I realized a lot of my favorite dramas simply don't hold up to the bedridden situation. And some dramas I wish I could really purge my memory so I can enjoy it again instantly. Haha, brain injury to watch a drama. Anyway, yup, ISWAK and TKA definitely tops my list.
Definitely agree with you...I also have a lot of dramas that I liked but none of them I would be willing to marathon again and again like I would for ISWAK and TKA. God bless Winnie....he made me live in the world he created in that series for like three years. It was super hard to break away from it since the first time I watched it. And when Playful Kiss came along, I was super duper happy that it didn't turn out better because no matter what, the Tdrama version would always be the best one for me.
And OMG, you were part of the subbing team? I FREAKING LOVE YOU. Seriously, I've always been so grateful to the subbers for doing a wonderful job with the series. Countless times I've blessed them over the years for letting me marathon the show over and over again. So I'm glad I met you....it gave me the chance to personally thank you. :)
I am associated with, as I run as a mod of the group, but I didn't help with the actual subbing on that one. =P The group leader is constantly trying to recruit me to do other minor bits though. I also support them by giving them their Asian drama lists since I'm fairly good at matching dramas to the people.
My Watch List for this situation would certainly include my favorites, but being as I was bedridden, it might exclude some of my favorites that I might not be in the mood for if ill.
Watch List:
Reply 1997
Flower Boy Raymun Shop
The Woman that Still Wants to Marry
Secret Garden
Kim Sam Soon
Pasta
Faith-I know that I bitched about it enough, but it's damn visually pretty and the message is good, so I'd put it on this list.
I would also need to add music videos to this list, I'll keep the list minimal for times sake here lol-
Anything with Song Seung Hun is generally not for me.
or Park Shi Hoo, not because of his recent legal issues, but because I have not cared for his dramas either, or, well, him.
Tell me, of all the great KPop out there, why did the world fall in love with PSY's horsey dance instead of Rain doing that hip movement or G.NA with her sexy legs?
@Julia -I feel like I should apologize for ruining you for other men lol. The first time I saw a Rain MV I was like WHY didn't I know about this man sooner? I am looking forward to Rain returning to civilian life and taking off his clothes in public and objectifying himself again.
and I know! When G-Style came out, I believe I said the same thing about Rain.
[b]K-dramas:[/b]
- Gaksital (Lee Kang To as Gaksital will definitely help me recover)
- Tamra The Island (I would also choose Da Jang Geum, but since this one is shorter and lighter but still gives a same dose of heartwarming, I guess this would be better for my recovery period)
- Answer Me 1997 (because I'm the children of 90s and this is wonderfully nostalgic... although I assume in this hypothetical situation, my childhood memories are still intact? But well I'll definitely watch this again)
[b]J-dramas:[/b]
- Nodame Cantabille (same with alua, I found the first episode too bizzare but somehow the comedy just pulled me in and laughter is one of the best medicines, right?)
- Nobuta wo Produce (because I need at least one Yamapi drama to jog my memories, and this one is my fave, although I would also watch Lunch Queen for the delicious food)
- Tokyo Love Story (my first Jdrama, and eventhough the ending left a sour taste in my mouth, I wouldn't mind watching this again and again. Rika Akana is probably one of my fave characters ever in dramaland, I used to want to grow up to be like her -I watched this when I was still in fourth grade, I think :D -)
- Change (because I need KimuTaku to jog my memories as well)
And I think I'll also need to watch at least one wuxia, The Return of Condor Heroes maybe?
[b]Avoid list:[/b]
I have tons of them. Most are dramas that I dropped in the middle.. And definitely no makjangs
Aww, thank you, alua! Hmmm.. that's a tough question, esp since I've never tasted it :D I got the picture since long ago when I started collecting latte art pictures. But since latte art is basically pouring steamed milk into espresso to create pattern.. and both cappuccino and latte are espresso-based drinks, I think it could be both? :D
Happy OT everybody!. I am actually not at work today so I can actually post. I am killing time before I start my oh so very long drive from SD to SLO and hope that the weather stays the way it is right now (sunny) and doesn't rain like planned.
Can't wait tlll my meeting is done so I can catch up on dramas and things. This talk I am giving has occupied my time for the past month.
The PSH case is becoming a circus. So convoluted.
I hope hope hope Kim Jae Wook gets casted in Goddess of Fire with Moon Geun Young. I loved their chemistry and felt it was wasted in MMM and overshadowed by the cuteness of GeunGeun. He speaks fluent japanese so that will help, he actually can act, and he is definitely pleasant on the eyes. Plus its about high time he starts getting main lead status and he needs a post-military drama. If its true that jaejoong is being considered, I hope he gets 2nd lead. He has potential and is relatively decent but should probably stick to secondary roles for awhile longer to build up his skills, I don't think he has the ability to be main lead just yet. But I don't know if he will take up the drama since I know JYJ is thinking about releasing an album later this year, but then again Yoochun the crazy one was shooting Miss Ripley when they released their last album and was touring.... so Jaejoong being just as crazy isn't that far fetched.
Agree on Kim Jae Wook. Jaejoong is okay, but he still doesn't have the range. He would pale next to Moon Geun Young, but with KJW we already know they work (as much as mess Marry Me Mary was scriptwise, the actors were fine).
Generally, if Moon Geun Young takes the drama I hope she gets cast with someone who is on her level. That's my minimal requirement... (is if I had a say in it ;-) ).
I have been a silent reader on this blog for almost 5 years (commented very occasionally). Always hide away with the excuse that I am busy with full-time work and part-time studies to comment, plus I really cannot decide on a handle (boo!). So sorry I am a leecher :( Just read and run.
I have recently relocated to Texas, US (from Asia, due to hubby's job)! Since I am unemployed and have finished my studying, I decided that I have all the time in the world now to join in this FABULOUS community here at Dramabeans!! *fingers cross* I have always followed all the posts here, now I will try get in the spirit of things and try to read and contribute to the comments too.
Enough about me. On to more important things, dramas!
Currently excited about TWTWB! Loving HeadsNo2 recap and comments about the show trying to include the title (ha!).
Following L7CS on recaps only... really cannot sit through stories that don't make sense, hence I long bailed on IRIS (ep6) and Athena (ep9? Stuck in there for as long as I could for Kaedejun - even my love for Cha Seung-won and Kim So Yeon - my female bias, couldn't even make me watch that hot mess). I didn't even start IRIS 2! I am such a good girl, sticking to my mantra of life is too short for bad dramas.
Since I am quite free, really wondering if I should follow Incarnation of Money. A whee Kwang Ji Hwan fan after Hong Gil Dong.
Really excited about You're the Best - Lee Soon-Shin but I have no experience in following a weekend drama at all. Problem is, is it even going to get English sub?
Living is US gets me access to Viki which is really great. It is reliable and gets fan sub fast. You don't know how appreciative I am for Viki. Keep up the great work you multi-linguists out there who loves kdrama :) *cheering you on*
Welcome, sunshower, and good for you for finally coming out of lurker mode! ;) I was a DB reader for a long time before I started commenting, so I completely understand.
SunShower~WELCOME TO TEXAS!!!
Also, welcome to OT and de-lurking after all this time.
I guess I should also welcome you to the USA as well.
WELCOME. Hope you moved to one of our big cities so you have access to the things that make you feel like you are home. (comfort foods, or people who speak your native tongue whatever that is)
AMEN TO YOUR MANTRA " Life is too short for bad dramas."
I don't know why lots of dramas that are getting good reviews from the drama watching community doesn't really do it for me. I am extraordinarily picky with dramas. I tried watching Answer Me 1997(which everyone seems to love,given that this drama has been on so many people's favourite dramas list) but I couldn't even get through the 2nd episode. I couldn't connect to the characters idk why. This drama isn't bad,per se,but it simply wasn't for me. Another drama that I didn't dig was Joseon X Files.it was pretty cool but I couldn't get past 3 episodes of it. (Sigh,I still love you Kim Ji Hoon!) And then there's also Saikou No Rikon which a lot of people loved due to the witty and insight dialogues but I couldn't even get past the 2nd episode.(Seriously what is wrong with me?O.O)
There are some dramas out there that I somehow can feel whether it's a bad one right from the first few minutes of the first episode. Case in hand: IRIS 2,Yawang (Queen of Ambition),Paradise Ranch(OMIGAD WHY DID CHANGMIN EVEN SIGNED UP FOR THIS DRAMA IN THE FIRST PLACE?) And there also some dramas that gave me the "NO DON'T EVER WATCH ME VIBE" right off the bat although I've never watched even an episode of it. There's I Miss You,Fashion King,Dr.Jin,L7CS,Love Rain just to name a few.
Personally I feel that Yawang is just horribly atrocious.I know that there are a lots of people out there who'd probably disagree with me but NO,I dislike this drama to pieces. I did not like everything about it. The storyline,the background music,the characters and the makjangness of it. Not even Kwon Sang Woo can make me love it. I love Yunho as a singer,I really do but his acting simply doesn't cut it. Don't even get me started on Soo Ae's character in the drama. THIS DRAMA IS A MESS. Well apparently it is doing pretty well in the ratings the last I heard. *braces self for arrows from fans of this drama* >.<
I've been a dramafever subscriber since the beginning and while I enjoy that they have a pretty wide variety of shows to offer these days, tbh, their service has many problematic aspects. First of all the subtitles are mediocre and I noticed with the newer series entire sentences of dialogue will be untranslated! In Alice of Cheongdamdong there were important moments that were lost to me because chunks of dialogue were missing. They need to either hire better subbers or take their time posting the subs so they can do some major quality control before uploading. I know people will say that makes the wait too long but I would rather have QUALITY subs and wait then watch crap. It's worth it. But that's just my humble opinion.
Secondly, they have finally at least made their subtitles readable but only in certain formats. I use a roku player to stream from them to my TV and for awhile it was all white subs with not even a black outline so half the time you could barely read it. They have at least wised up in that respect and made the subs yellow which is easier to read but I noticed their itunes app still has the white subs and at times can't be read! So frustrating. I can't speak for the subs on their online site bc I don't use it but it seems to me it should be the same across the board.
Now if only Viki had a channel for my roku player I would probably cancel my DF subscription altogether but I assume they probably couldn't get the rights to do that with DF taking over everything. SIGH.
Hello lovely OT people!
I have been away from dramaland for so long, everything seems strange and unfamiliar. I am going to slowly ease my way back in. I hope everyone has a wonderful Friday! :)
Hardly anyone cares about the Womans Day here. :-(
Yes, for Mother's Day, there is the great promotion.
But what about the women who are not mothers? These women are worth nothing???? Maybe they want, but they can not have children. But that is not questioned.
I get so angry when I think about it ...
in Estonian folk calendar there are 24 days which are womens´ holidays where they do no work, drink wine and visit friends. people have started to forget them and now instead there is this one lousy international womens day. I am dissapointed.
I've never posted in an OT before. I don't know why I'm always so nervous about it. For some reason.
I have to agree with the previous comments that the recent psychological meltdown via DF has strengthened the already awesome community here. Hurrah! And for that, I am posting in an OT for the very first time. :)
Welcome to the OT Gom! We always like to hear from new people! I remember being nervous my first [few] times! Soon you get super comfortable and it's almost like coming to your own little town in the middle of the internet. Amazing but true.
Javabeans, Girlfriday, when are you going to write something surrounding Park Shi Hoo's and the whole circus lawsuits?. Come on..it would be fun and I want to know your thoughts on the issue. With the whole alphabet character train from A to K to D to P, maybe your write up can become the sequel to Chicka Chicka Boom Boom where all the alphabets climb up the coconut court tree.
I appreciate that Javabeans and Girlfriday have kept mum on this issue.
Personally, I find that PSH is on my mind every day and the issue has clouded how I watch dramas as the Dramaland and Real Life blur a little. For example, when I watched "101st Proposal" and she had her scandal, it was a little more painful to watch and I was wondering if fans had put up banners for PSH like 101st did.
So knowing that I don't have to face the PSH news at Dramabeans is a relief. Just one opinion.
Comments on both sides are so cringeworthy, and the behavior of everyone involved so unprofessional and immature, that I am glad Dramabeans has stayed out of the whole mess. Early on I attempted to weigh in with an analysis of possible outcomes and discourse on lessons that could be taken away from the whole sordid episode, but as it has spiralled further into lawsuits, invective, breathless hearsay, and continued fangirl gushing, I have given the whole thing up as a blot on my life that I can happily ignore.
I think DB should totally stay mum on this. I respect how this site has managed to stay neutral all this while. This whole PSH incident is just too messy for this page.
Hello everyone, this is my first time in an Open Thread and I'm so excited to be here, especially after the whole Dramafever mess, so I'm here to show my support <3
Unfortunately, because of school, I can't watch any dramas right now, so I'm solely depending on DB's recaps to know what is going on with my favorite series, though I'm having a hard time trying to find information about End of the World, the other drama with a similar story to The Virus.
Oh, and if someone could tell me if Madame Butterfly (?) is a good show I'd appreciate it, I just need a good fake reason to watch Kim Sung Soo. I've been in love with him since Full House
Hi Alex Mottis. I don't participate often but read most comments on Fridays. Virus is now up on Hulu, and Madame Butterfly I'm watching on Viki; it is a melodrama but I've mostly enjoyed it and Viki does such an excellent job with subbing. Kim Sung-soo hasn't aged it bit and looks great. If you like him you might try watching the family drama "More Charming by the Day", it's on DramaFever.
Welcome to the OT, Alex! It's a stinker that DF did what they did to our beloved JB and GF, but it also seems to have made the DB community stronger. Go figure!
I've given up dramas for Lent, but even when I'm free to watch them I often too busy to watch more than 1 or 2 old ones at at time. So, you're not alone :)
hello beanies! what a week! the dramafever fiasco and my own personal stuff i am ready for the weekend. just getting over my last bout of Plague, this time almost 2 weeks in bed. i was too sick for dramas even short ones (which i didn't think possible but was) but i did get a few movies in: the theives, werewolf boy, suspect x, gwanghee/masquerade, and i am king. the similiarities between those last two movies made me laugh, it might have been the drugs though... i can eat again and oh the persimmons i will be eating! even chocolate hasn't curbed the craving i have for their sweetness.
on another note no antelopes (so far) and my landlord backtracked on charging us for the damaged trees and putting up fencing to protect those trees from further damage. also one of my cats was let outside tuesday because of good weather...without his collar. no news from neighbors, vets, humane society, or animal control. he is a homebody never venturing further than the yard, not even going across the gravel road to tease the cop's dogs like his brother. i fear the worst. especially since ive been sick and havent been able to look after him or his brother in my normal crazycat lady fashion. if he's adopted (or forbid dead) it just won't be the same watching dramas or movies without him curled beside me. sniff.
mystery solved about why so many sites were closing. i'm glad and thankful dramabeans stood their ground while also complying with legalities and doing so with grace and humor. hip hip hurray for dramabeans!! that being said i must quote the big bang theory "got your back jack, bitches be crazy." and dramafever is crazy and looking like a mean bully going after fans and communities like they are, especially those that helped them start and 'let' use subs. the best way to have voices heard is by actually talking/writing and the best way to hurt greed is by not giving it money. this is exactly the correct thing we beanies and dramabeans are doing. dramafever is now begining to feel the wrath...
i know i introduced several people to kdrama through their site and regret it: slow, subpar subs, and now just plain vicious business practices. no more i'll be cutting ties with them. i even convicned some friends to leave with me and we are discussing whether to leave hulu over it too since they are affiliated with dramafever.
congratulations again to dramabeans!!
Hello all,
sorry for not reading all your post, I have too much work, just needed to vent a bit... sorry...
This week just sucks.... I haven't seen a minute of a k-drama, j-drama, t-drama or whatever drama.. or movie... managed to get into a quarrel with my colleague at my volunteer work...still fuming... and then the DMCA hit Dramabeans... Murphy's laws in full gear...
Luckily... I have the Dramabeans' latest podcast on repeat on my mp3 player to keep me sane :--)
Wishing you all nice weekend... and lot of sun!
Hi Dorotka!
Have a great weekend! And i hope the weather will be to your liking - looking through my window at all the snow that fell today I can hardly believe it was sunny and +12 degrees yesterday :)
I am behind with dramas, too. And I don't feel the urge to catch up. Maybe the next batch will be more exciting?
Hi kopytko,
thanks. They predict snow on Sunday here... also after a couple of warm sunny days... uhhh... I want the spring!!
As for dramas... I'm a bit sad that I don't have any time to watch now... but as you said, it doesn't feel as a complete tragedy :--) Though tomorrow... the best Jo Jung Seok is starting ;--)
Happy Weekend, Dorotka. I hope next week is better. It's been a rough couple of weeks for me, too. Maybe I should have had the last podcast on repeat myself!
Oh, sorry to hear that... for me it's been more than 1 week as well... big hug for you -- And better days sure will come!
I finally took some time off this afternoon... and instead being with my family (horrible me)... I fell into the black hole called Nodame Cantabile... some time ago I couldn't even finish the 1st episode... now I can't stop watching :--) Love the music... and Tamaki Hiroshi is soooo smexy... ;--)
Dramas have gotten me through some of the craziest, most stressful work weeks of my life. Protect The Boss will always hold a special place in my heart for that very reason. It was just what I needed at the time
First of all, congrats to the entire Dramabeans nation for triumphing over the evil forces of Dramafever! As always, thanks to javabeans and girlfriday for being awesome - fighting!
Anyways, I'm worried that this post might get buried because I have a few questions to ask about torrenting. I'm going back to China for three weeks, and will have very little access to internet. Naturally my addiction won't let me stop indulging in dramas, but up till now I've always been streaming my dramas (dramacrazy, epdrama, mysoju RIP, etc.)... So for the first-time torrenter, have you got any tips? Download sites for both dramas and subs would be much appreciated, as would any how-to guides.
Crikey, catching up on dramas is like homework! I've started keeping a list of What To Watch because otherwise I'll get super confused and not, yunno, do any work or shower or anything.
I keep on thinking to make a list like that... particularly to remember some of the older dramas that I missed because I wasn't watching dramas yet. I come across something that looks interesting or that everyone has said is amazing, forget to put it one some sort of central list and stumble across the drama months later, only to marathon it and shake my head over not having watched it ages ago already.
Pride, Love Shuffle, Nagareboshi all were like that for me.
I don't think it's as high profile as Pride or Love Shuffle, but it's a lovely drama (more Pride than Love Shuffle) that tackles serious questions but heartwarming. There is a love story, but it's sort of muted, the main thing is the family love, which however is what paves the way for love love eventually... :-)
It really helps. Otherwise I feel overwhelmed. Plus, I really felt like I needed to limit myself.
Thing is, no one drama has been holding my attention consistently since KOD and School. I had high hopes for TWTWB, but got bored surprisingly fast.
Right now, I'm digging Hundred Years, Ad Genius, and Incarnation of Money (just when I was about to drop all three completely too!) so let's see how long that lasts. :-)
one of the very first things i did when i first started watching kdramas is to make a to-watch list....i knew this was an addiction that was going to last and i needed to be able to keep track of what to watch...
I don't think too many of us have that kind of forethought--or realize how serious k-dramas are until we're bringing under eye-luggage to work instead of the usual under eye-bags.
lately Kdramas have been lackluster to say the least...from Level 7 to the Monday night shows......but i haven't started watching TWTWB n i have heard positive things about that...Here's hoping to better dramas in the future.
started IRIS II....started off really slow but its slowly getting better...i find that m more interested in Baek San's story and find myself hoping for a happy ending for him.......lulz...i don't think i was expecting that... m still on episode 6, but that twist is CRAY!!!!! no spoilers for those who r currently watching n not up to that episode n for those who want to watch it later....the romance is meh for me.....i accept it as part of the story...doesn't get me hot n bothered which i did not expect....that is what i liked about IRIS....
looking forward like a mad person to Special Affairs Team Ten season 2 which is coming out in April....colored me EXCITED!!!!!
oh n dear DF, i never liked u before for all d bull u pulled in the past, but i was fine cause i have Viki and HuluPlus (even thou u guys have an agreement, but it means i don't need to go on ur site), but the shit u pulled this week plus d ~exclusive~ rights shit on IRIS II that u guys pulled and all the things i have been learning about what u guys have been doing, IM F***ing pissed at u n i will forever boycott ur site as long as i watch Kdramas.
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1 sweetcloud
March 8, 2013 at 6:18 AM
Happy OT everyone!
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Kiara
March 8, 2013 at 6:36 AM
Happy OT and to JB and GF, thanks for not posting gossips from PSH case. Proud of you girls, stay classy <3.
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itsmyr
March 8, 2013 at 11:12 AM
IKR! The PSH case is so sensitive right now. One comment/ personal opinion can make or break a person/blogger. I welcome the peace here in DB.
Happy OT everyone!
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sweetcloud
March 8, 2013 at 6:50 AM
Ok so I was busy commenting in the TWTWB recap and saw the OT pop up, could not resist.
Out of all the dramas currently airing I'm watching TWTWB, The Virus (which I just call in my head the Baïruseu because it cracks me up) and keeping an eye on Incarnation of Money (I have a few episodes to catch up to).
Of all three TWTWB is the only one that makes me rewatch and wait eagerly for the next episode. I'm not emotionnally invested in the characters, except Soo maybe, but I still find the story captivating. And the cinematography too, obviously everyone keeps gushing about it, but it really is beautifully shot and most importantly the live shoot has not altered its quality so far (I was a little worried when they broadcast three episodes instead of two). I don't know if it was the intent of the drama but the fact that it leaves you cold and detached is actually coherent with the winter theme of the drama. Winter theme, and not holidays theme, where I would expect snow and warmth and fuzzies. That's the strange dichotomy for me, despite not connecting with the characters, I still want to know their story and not because of a morbid fascination, like in Nice Guy or I Miss You - I really want Soo and Young to find their happiness.
I was expecting a little more oomph from The Virus, from the apocalyptic stills that were released. The story reminds me a lot of a manga called Emerging which also depicts the propagation of a mysterious deadly virus. What I miss from the drama is the sense of agoraphobia that would normally come with this kind of story. After watching it I don't feel especially panicky when a stranger coughs in the bus and I don't wash my hands more than usual. But I do like the mystery set up and will see how it unfolds. The characters are a bit one dimensional for now but since it's only the first episode there is plenty of time to develop them. I guess I'm used to watching two episodes back to back.
Since there is so much talk about idols taking important roles in dramas I've been scrutinizing Yu Bin in The Virus, and while the character is whiny so far I think she's doing a reasonnable job. I'm a little more worried about the Suzy/Lee Seungi pairing in Gu Family Book. Eunji was a little typecast for Heesun in TWTWB but so was Kim Bum as loyal sidekick.
That's it for my rant of the week, have a good week end beanies :D
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 8:30 AM
You have literally summed up everything I feel about the dramas Incarnation of Money, That Winter The Wind Blows, and the Virus. Saved me trouble from expressing all that, lol. :)
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Belle3005
March 8, 2013 at 6:30 PM
Ditto. I feel the same about TWTWB. The execution,visuals and cinematography was fascinating enough to draw me in week after week but lately I find myself getting detached from the drama itself but I'm not sure why is it so. The only character that I'm rooting for is Soo,since Jo In Sung's portrayal of him just makes me wanna hug and comfort him. (uhm a bit TMI perhaps? ahahah) I think I am having a bit of a drama slump lately cause I haven't been watching other dramas aside from TWTWB since FBND's finished airing. I've tried watching C-dramas,J-dramas and T-dramas but none of them had managed to captivate my interest beyond the first episode. Help,anyone? Any recommendation would be greatly appreciated. :)
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Anduril
March 8, 2013 at 10:13 PM
Hmm, it can be a little difficult to find recommendations going only on the fact that you like the visuals of TWTWB. So I'll just tell you some of my favorites.
J-Dramas
* Holyland - it has a similar mood to some revenge dramas, but not :P. Personally, I like it better that K-remake.
* Shiawase no Kiiroi Hankachi - might like if you liked Padam Padam. The lead is Hiroshi Abe, who can be very expressive with very few to zero words.
* Death Note 1&2 - these are live action movies of the manga, but a worthy watch
T-Drama (the two that I would recommend have a late 90's early 2000's K-melodrama feel)
*Autumn's Concerto - it does drag at the 2/3 point, but ends solid.
*Real Love Please Press the Bell Twice - has a plot line more suited to a daily soap, but has a lot of heart.
Don't know if these will suit, but maybe one will keep you going.
alua
March 8, 2013 at 8:28 AM
Hi sweetcloud!
Happy OT!
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redfox
March 8, 2013 at 10:29 AM
happy indeed after 12 hours of work again.
no energy.
watched...kpop audition? weird cute and all very soft voices no mokey or rock at all? like the borther-sister duo
only watched till ep 2 for now
That winter - amazing sweaters. I feel like knitting if I had any time
gosh I am gonna puke I am so tired. all blurry
also watched a bit of jdorama Share House No Koibito. Also interesting. but living alone is not such a tragedy. no comprende. of course no one cooks for you when you are tired but hey. less eating better figure.
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redfox
March 8, 2013 at 10:31 AM
blimey. Smokey, brother ...
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nomad
March 8, 2013 at 8:15 PM
I've been following that Jdrama too. Really, really like it! And I could relate to her feeling of loneliness when living alone too.
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2 myweithisway
March 8, 2013 at 6:18 AM
So proud of being a member of the Beanut Gallery!
And Happy Friday all!
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anotheraddict
March 8, 2013 at 10:15 AM
IKR?! We did a good job of living up to our "Beanut Gallery" moniker this week. It was wonderful to see the outpouring of support and the organic protest that took place. Even though db's DMCA notice was rescinded, let's not forget that there are lots of other recappers, subbers, etc. on DF's hit list, and that the same principles apply. Let's continue to make our voices heard and to show them that when you have messed with the beanies, you have struck a rock!
Happy International Women's Day, everyone!
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hydrangeabloom
March 8, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Hear, hear!
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3 tweetie
March 8, 2013 at 6:18 AM
Hello everyone am new to OT!!
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tweetie
March 8, 2013 at 6:20 AM
The whole Drama Fever fiasco I think has strengthened the sense of community for Dramabeans. Go Beanies! I often read OT comments but don't comment, you all seem like a lovely bunch
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shelhass
March 8, 2013 at 6:28 AM
Happy OT everybody!!!
I feel so pround today of being part of this AMAZING community and the friends I've made here, though i think those girls are lazy these last few days and leaving me alone.
Come back Jeannette! How am I going to fangirl over That Winte/Jo In Sung?
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Jeannette
March 8, 2013 at 4:06 PM
LOL I'm sorry, I'm so behind! <3
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Mystisith
March 8, 2013 at 6:28 AM
Welcome tweetie!
We are lovely... Normally. ^^ That said we can be like the worst mother-in-laws or ex-girlfriends from Outerspace when we are annoyed. Rawr!
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tweetie
March 8, 2013 at 6:30 AM
I will make sure I do not incur your wrath them LOL
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shelhass
March 8, 2013 at 6:39 AM
Oh sorry, I put my comment as a reply (I'm such a dope)
but feel welcomed to DB.
alua
March 8, 2013 at 8:29 AM
hahahahahaha
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korfan
March 8, 2013 at 6:36 AM
tweetie -
Welcome! This is a fantastic group indeed!
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 8:32 AM
Definitely...I really felt a bond with everyone on DB even though I barely know you all. :)
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houstontwin
March 8, 2013 at 10:05 AM
Can someone explain to me what has been going on with Dramafever and other kdrama websites. I read their letter of apology to DB plus the responses. Several people mentioned that DF had gone after the subbers. I'd like to know more about this.
Thanks!
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Mystisith
March 9, 2013 at 2:00 AM
Hello houstontwin!
DF and co is behind the disappearance of a bunch of K related sites: Some cause they were illegal streaming (MySoju, Kimchidrama) and others who were just inoffensive subbing fan sites! A popular subber, Mister X had his site taken down and his work for Reply 1997 erased, Darksmurf community has received threats too... If you have the patience, it's better explained in the comments left at DF:
http://blog.dramafever.com/2013/03/a-message-from-dramafever/#comments
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:05 AM
Hi tweetie!
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pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deck🍉
March 8, 2013 at 7:06 AM
Welcome!!! This is a good week to join us for the first time, especially in the wake of the Great Dramafever Debacle *hugs*
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:18 AM
Hellow tweetie :)
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4 Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 6:23 AM
Good Morning My Wondrous Beans!
Well THIS was an exciting week, wasn't it?
I'm sick so I'm going to keep it short.
Loving Ad Genius Lee Tae Baek so very very much. I will explain more why next week probably.
That Winter the Wind Blows...at this point, I just want them to be together forever as brother and sister. I know it won't happen, but he loves her and he's scared. I think he would try. And just so you know, this is the only drama where stick figures are NOT acceptable screen caps, K?
Queen of Ambition. SO AWESOME. HaRyu is an EPIC master at F'ing with Da Hae at this point, and I love it to an unhealthy degree.
K. Chat amongst yourselves :) I need a nap.
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 6:25 AM
oh oh oh! IRISII! I like it! But I want to punch Blondie Rey in his face. And I'm so hurt by the end of this week's first episode. I feel completely betrayed by Lee Beom Soo.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 6:37 AM
REally? I've been wondering whether to try that since I lost interest in TWTWB.
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 6:47 AM
I do like it, really. It may go south in a bad way later, but for now I'm enjoying the mystery, the romance, and the humor. The action scenes are completely boss, too.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 6:49 AM
Is there anyone TOP-like in it? Cos he was freakin' scary hot in the first one.
Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 6:53 AM
There is no shortage of eye candy at all, but no Vic character...unless you want to count...but no, I can't do that, it's a major spoiler.
You should just watch.
Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 6:56 AM
Okay, good to know. ;-)
Now, must tear myself away. Will try mobile posting while waiting to be sworn in, hee.
Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 7:09 AM
Whaaa...? TOP was in the first IRIS? I'll need to watch it now. :D Yeah, I was into TWTWB right up to this last episode.
Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 7:10 AM
and then lost interest.
Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 7:17 AM
He's not in it very much, and his acting is absolutely atrocious. But yeah, it's TOP, so none of that actually matters.
This time around, in Season 2, they have two idols, Doo Joon from Beast, with a major role - and he's kicking ass in it, I must say; and Lee Joon, from MBlaq. Not doing quite as well, a bit of overacting going on, you can see he's nervous and trying hard. He's made no secret of the fact that he wanted to be an actor, and only became a singer as a way to get in, so I can understand why he is feeling that way. Anyway, he plays a complete ass, and it's quite funny.
Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 7:26 AM
Sad for TOP. Idk if I can watch him be bad at something. I'll stress out and get very defensive. lol Had to google Doo Joon. He has peircing eyes.
Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 7:28 AM
Congratulations TS :D what r u getting sworn in to?
Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 7:28 AM
He does, indeed. And I like his voice. Not gonna lie, kinda crushing on him a little bit right now. Unfortunately, he is a LOT younger than he looks or sounds.
Enz
March 8, 2013 at 9:02 AM
Pillowhead, why the lost interest with TWTWB? I haven't had time to watch epi 8 and 9 yet :(. Am in Hong Kong for a weekend break with my cousin.
Also, to your question of what happened, read this
http://www.dramabeans.com/2013/03/announcement-level-7-civil-servant-recaps-now-with-less-joo-won/
Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Hi Enz, Idk, i dodded off and lost track and couldn't get back into it. I think it was just the moment. I'll keep watching.. for bummy's sake. :P
Oh..so that's what happened. Thanks for the link.
Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 9:41 AM
nodded off
Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 7:06 PM
JoAnne, if you're still reading this, I just checked out the overwhelming amount of characters in IRISII. Is there some way to focus it down? With IRIS, I just focused on TOP.
Ann
March 8, 2013 at 3:00 PM
Yay! Someone else watching IRIS! Lee Boem Sooooo! How could you? And the cliche they saddled Jang Hyuk with...grrrr. He is still a hottie, though, even with the hair.
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RockPaperScissors
March 8, 2013 at 6:38 AM
I'm loving Ad Genius, too. Seriously, it's one of the better dramas out there right now.
And I wish everyone a happy weekend, especially JB and GF after yesterday's excitement. I literally had butterflies in my stomach. Never underestimate a dedicated fan base!
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 6:51 AM
I agree, Ad Genius Lee Taebek has really picked up. Now I'm looking forward to it. So, Min Ga's hot son: will he switch to Han Sunwha's character?
I thought the little kid theme was a bit Bollywood, though.
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 6:55 AM
oh, you mean that man-sized JaeJoong-alike?
Yi Chan is YUMMY. I don't think he switches. That would be asshole-y, and he seems like a very sweet guy.
Hassan is cracking me UP.
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:24 AM
Okay, JoAnne, thanks! IT sounds good. I like dramas with imperfect characters. Okay, I'll try it. Gotta fit it in somewhere. Which will probably be easy now that i've given up on a coupla other shows.
Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 10:50 AM
Hey Pillowhead! I got sworn into the DC bar. I've been admitted in NY for years, but needed a local bar admission. Thank you!
As for TOP's bad acting, in all his work, he just plays these fairly expressionless characters. In BigBang parodies of dramas, he has a lot more expression. So maybe he just needs a good comedy?
Just googled DooJoon. He sounds awesome. Will add IRISII!
Yep, Yi Chan is HOT! And I'm rooting for a happy ending for Go Ahri. We know its coming for the hero and heroine, so I'm not too worried about them.
Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 2:10 PM
congrats TS! so you are an attorney in DC? that sounds intense. :D
yeah true, TOP is expressionless. When i watch the old mvs, it so weird to see him smiling. i don't like it. i prefer him cool and steely eyed.
Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM
so yeah... he must be a terrible actor. lol
Enz
March 9, 2013 at 1:31 AM
TS, congrats! I read what you OT sworn into :)
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kdramapedia
March 8, 2013 at 7:36 AM
I'm enjoying Ad Genius, too! It's not super popular, so the subs are slow, but I'm anxious to watch it before they're 100% complete. You can get the gist of the conversations without the subs, as they don't over-complicate things with heavy dialogue.
It's a little gem, easy to watch, with "real" conflicts.
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kdramafan
March 8, 2013 at 6:49 AM
I'm totally there with AGLTB too.
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Mystisith
March 8, 2013 at 6:56 AM
I'm with you girls (I presume ;) ). A lot of things to like in that drama.
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:07 AM
oh gosh, now you guys are making me want to watch it. Might give it a try. Thanks.
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 7:14 AM
Carole, what I really, really like is that there are really no ENTIRELY good or bad characters. Our hero has talent and pluck, but he also has a quick temper and completely overinflated sense of his 'worth' to a company. His 'nemesis' is going through an Alice in Cheongdamdong-like scenario where he actually likes the girl he's trying to social-climb marry. Our hero's ex has done some really cold things - but when you see what she's up against, it's hard to blame her. Our hero's mentor is a good guy, but he's also a recovering alcoholic who went downhill so badly his wife actually left him.
The secondary characters are charming and funny, almost without exception. The workplace scenarios are as crazy as you'd expect from a KDrama, but they don't really ever end up exactly as you'd expect, either.
And I could stare at Jin Goo pretty much non-stop for the next 24 hours if he'd let me. He's got a Ji Sung/Rain face structure, and that always gets me. He's new to me with this drama, so I'm liking the discovery!
Sean
March 8, 2013 at 7:36 AM
Me too, am loving Ad Genius Lee Tae Baek!
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Merry
March 8, 2013 at 10:07 AM
Thanks, Joanne. You really put it so nicely. Been loving adGenius. Happy weekend beanies. Glad to meet you all here. Keep well always.
Alex Mottis
March 8, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Ok, reading all these favourable comments about Ad Genius has finally convinced me that I should watch it.
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Monch
March 8, 2013 at 4:06 PM
I know right, i just pass by because i can't decide wich new drama watch Ad Genius, Incarnation of Money, That Winter.. or 7th Level Civil Servant.
Now because of your comments i already started watching Ad Genius Lee Tae Baek
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Shiku
March 8, 2013 at 7:00 AM
Count me in, I like ad genius lee tae bark. It improves with every episode although I would like to shoot the editor.
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March 8, 2013 at 7:13 AM
Hey JoAnne! Sickness seems to be going around, I've had the peskiest cough/cold all week (but sadly, not sick enough to take off work) *sigh*
I'm at such a loose end with nothing on the currently airing kdrama slate that I really feel NEEDS watching, it's back to old episodes of Vampire Idol for unsubbed Woobie my Wuv.
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 7:22 AM
Hi Pogo -
I'm home but not 'off' really - I've got the work computer up next to me and if an email comes in I check it. I have a small task or two that needs to be cleared up today, but otherwise I'm just monitoring. I can't actually talk at this point, so I begged off any telecons scheduled, but otherwise, I'm available to my projects. It's kind of always that way with us, sadly! Probably true for a lot of others, and I have the advantage of being able to do it from home when I'm sick, or the weather is bad (it's snowing again here) - so I really don't mind!
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:24 AM
Rest and get well soon JoAnne!
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:13 AM
Just saw this, so yes, get better soon!
Enz
March 9, 2013 at 1:30 AM
Get well soon joAnne! You're the life of the. OT party!! You MUST be present every week :)
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:12 AM
Ha, I totally get that!
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:14 AM
Get that re Woobie My Wuv, I mean, lol.
Do you find you go a slack-jawed when you see him? I know I do...
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kdramafan
March 8, 2013 at 7:25 AM
P.S. Hope you feel better soon.
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 7:42 AM
Feel better soon Joanne!
I'm waiting to marathon iris2. Can't stand watching twice a week have to wait until next week for my fix. Lol
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alua
March 8, 2013 at 8:41 AM
We'll chat really loudly so we'll wake you up *grins mischievously*
because we want you part of the conversation of course!
Before I get to drama watching can I just say I made my first bibimbap in my very own dolsot (my new kitchen toy)!!! The rice isn't quite as crispy as I wanted it, because I was a little paranoid about burning it. Yum yum otherwise.
Draaaamaaaas.
Nothing Korean at the moment. Waiting! Nine hopefully will pull me back in.
Japanese:
Tonbi I love this one. It's so simple, but it's just the loveliest story about family love. I don't get why no ones watching it (well, that's the impression I have anyway).
xxxHOLIC 30 minutes a week is NOT ENOUGH. Also spent about 10 minutes trying to remember where I recognised the teacher from and then it dawned on me that his face was familiar from Hana Kimi
Sharehouse no Koibito I'm a bit behind, mostly because I'm starting to lose interest. I'm just not sure what to make of this show or what it is trying to do. I can't quite relate to the characters... I don't know. The only thing I love about it is the opening song (sound and visuals).
Saikou no Rikon Haven't had time to watch it again, quite a bit behind.
Mahoro Ekimae Bangaichi I still haven't started, but maybe I'll just wait till it finishes and then marathon it.
Films.....
watched the Taiwanese GF*Bf* at the opening night of the Pan Asia Film festival and enjoyed it plenty, if anyone is interested in a review, somehow I already managed to write one (ignoring all the other half-written reviews I have in the works).
Lots of films coming up over the next two weeks and I'm also debating whether to attend a screen talk with Moon So-ri in April OR attend the 009 RE: Cyborg Preview. I might able sort of able to do both, because the screen talk begins earlier, so I might be able to sit in for half an hour and then go to the anime screening... Don't know. Have to decide.
Happy Friday everyone... and Long Live Dramabeans! :-)
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alua
March 8, 2013 at 9:56 AM
Oh, I forgot - also watched an oldie - Nagareboshi. Had to marathon it. Watched it originally for Matsuda, who is in a secondary role. But Yutaka Takenouchi (who I had not previously seen in anything) sure was good - he'd say nothing and say so much! Liked Ueto Aya's character as well - not an easy one, but I think her background story explained her well. Her brother meanwhile... I don't know how many times I wanted strangle him!
Again, what I liked most about the drama was the focus on family love (the brother-sister parallel was fabulous, particularly because the show made clear that family isn't blood bonds, but what you make family). Also liked that they raised ethical issues - they didn't fully explore them, especially the legal side, but it did throw some important questions into the forefront.
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 10:04 AM
I also watched Nagareboshi a long while back. Like you, I liked the ethical question they raised and the brother was certainly very annoying.
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 2:19 PM
for some reason I thought nagareboshi is what you call those pickled sour plums
and thanks, everyone, for the get well wishes.
alua
March 8, 2013 at 9:14 PM
No, that would be umeboshi. :-)
Nagareboshi (流れ星) is (I learnt thanks to this dorama) the Japanese word for shooting star.
houstontwin
March 8, 2013 at 10:09 AM
Queen of Ambition reminds me a bit of Nice Guy and All that Glitters. An ambitious girl who will trample on loved ones to achieve her goals. And,like in Nice Guy, a former lover who brings her down.
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aznative
March 8, 2013 at 5:07 PM
I'm watching episode 5 of Ad Genius Lee Tae-baek and really love it.
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Pipit
March 8, 2013 at 11:24 PM
Thank you Jo Anne it makes me happy to know that I'm not alone in liking Ad Genius.
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5 Lost
March 8, 2013 at 6:24 AM
Hi. I'm new too. Lovely to be part of Beanies :)
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:08 AM
Hi Lost!
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 8:15 AM
Welcome! ^^ enjoy your stay! It's awesome place to be.
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Viola
March 8, 2013 at 9:48 AM
Welcome!
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6 cherkell
March 8, 2013 at 6:27 AM
dickweed [dik . weed]; noun; American slang.
Definition sua generis from cult television show Mystery Science Theatre 3000 (circa 1989-1999). Used generally to describe someone stupid, pathetic and ineffective, to-wit:
1. He's nothing but a pathetic dickweed. (see: Me, every day I have to deal with a certain person at my office)
2. On your left, DICKWEED!!! (see: MST3K Episode 416, “Fire Maidens of Outer Space”)
3. What a bunch of dickweeds! (see: aptly summarizing the Great Dramafever/Dramabeans Debacle of 2013)
Happy Friday OT, Fellow Beanies! It is Friday, ne? Given the events of this past week, it’s been one helluva emotional roller-coaster. (Or should that be TROLLER COASTER instead?) I’m glad all worked out with the DF Onslaught against our DB Fearless Leaders, the apology was made and the DMCA notice rescinded -- it has been rescinded, right? But this still leaves a bad taste in my mouth and does not absolve them for the almost-criminal way DF continues to treat the Little People; i.e., the random subber and/or recapper who God forbid dares to cross their path with better work product than DF will ever put up on their website. Being a DF subscriber from almost Day One, I am thinking long and hard about continuing to associate with a company that ‘shoots first and asks questions later,’ because next time they may be coming after you. Just sayin’.
And my heart is full with the outpouring of support everyone here has sent on behalf of the gals. YOU GUYS ROCK! I personally have been the subject of 3 separate DMCA notices in my online life; since I have the background to fight, I did and had all three eventually dismissed. But since everyone is not as well-versed in how to deal with such dickweedy-ness (and there are so many legal points at issue), give me a day or so to digest all that has happened this week and get a post-mortem blog post up sometime this weekend. (And maybe a hand-drawn picture or two for the L7CS recap. Hee!)
Anyway. No drama-watching on my end to report, since 18-20 hour days don’t cotton too well for any downtime. I have almost caught up on “Cheer Up, Mr. Kim” for benefit of mutual forum spazzers, and still find it charming and delightful. I continue to monitor “The Days” musical press and am checking my calendar (and wallet) for a trip to Seoul in late June to catch one of Ji Chang wook's performances. Other than that, it’s workworkworkworkwork. *sigh*
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have to go beat into submission the group of dickweeds... erm, lawyers I try to manage into acting like humans. A Herculean task, but someone has to do it -- call the cops if I’m not back in 8 hours! Mata ne!
P.S. US Peeps, remember to set your clocks forward on Sunday 10 March -- you don’t want to miss out on any live streams, right? RIGHT!!!
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owl
March 8, 2013 at 6:43 AM
you nailed that one, cherkell. dickweed. my new "dumbass." i like it.
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korfan
March 8, 2013 at 6:46 AM
cherkell -
Well said. Don't even get me started on the whole DF fiasco.
Lucky for the DF "people" that we don't have them sitting across a table from us ...... if this were the case, I'm pretty sure the Beanies would pick up their respective water glasses and, do that throw-the-water-splash-action on them!
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Julia
March 8, 2013 at 9:10 AM
Oh please, someone with artistic talent draw Beanies throwing water into DF's faces. That would be a great cartoon.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM
Good luck with the lawyers. I am one and super-regret it every damned day.
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nomad
March 8, 2013 at 8:21 PM
No plan to change if you regret it that much?
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Jae Shin
March 8, 2013 at 6:51 AM
Hahaha you have just effectively made my day... XD
And you can do it~~~ ^_^ And hi, fellow USian! ^_^
(I'm more accurately a cake (CAIK), but oh wells.. ^_^)
You should take me with you to Korea!!! ><
And could you please tell me what the whole debacle was about? I read the posts and all.. But I've been skimping on my sleep (blame the school) lately... So I'm not understanding what happened and why it happened..
Stay strong and hang in there~~~
- Jae Shin -
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KimYoonmi
March 8, 2013 at 7:27 AM
I caught it late in the game, so I still have fresh fan rage.
=P They killed the backbones of the internet whom they STOLE from? --;; And then go after the site that promoted them. Alright, they need to sit down and take basic lessons on how the internet actually works. (I'd argue Hulu does too, but for far different reasons.)
Catch up. The way to promote your website is to show that you are in league with the community you serve, rather than working against it.
I thought Javabeans said she knew the leader of Dramafever when she was promoting it. Sick.
Anyway, they should know enforcing DCMAs never works. As I said on their site.
Zune? Anyone? What is a Zune?
Do you remember when the government in the US tried to break the Internet even though they don't really use it? They went after Megaupload and then the rage doubled... because it just proved they didn't need the law?
Community is also how Wikipedia beat out and bankrupted Encyclopedia Brittanica.
Open Software exploded and PHP so far is beating out ASP as the go to. (Also advancing much faster)
You have to work *with* the internet rather than against it. DCMAs don't work. It may be counter intuitive, but fostering and working with the community will actually make your site grow. Even if some of it is illegal.
Even Anne McCaffrey at the end of her life reversed what her son was doing in enforcing no fan fiction.
Supporting viki now all the way. I hope they get the shows I've requested to lead.
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Mystisith
March 9, 2013 at 12:04 AM
It's late but did you see that speech?
http://www.ted.com/talks/amanda_palmer_the_art_of_asking.html
I watched it this week & thought it's perfect for the situation: "Free and shared can be profitable for you."
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kakashi
March 8, 2013 at 6:55 AM
I am still so angry about DramaFever's behavior and everything related to it, I don't even feel like talking about dramas right now.
This whole affair leaves me with a very sour, even bitter aftertaste. Their so-called "apology" smacks of hypocrisy so much, it makes me gag. Because there is a community behind DB that expressed their rage, and it is potentially (or actually) damaging for their business, they're apologizing.
But it is so much worse what they did last year (i.e. to Mr. X and other subbers). Where were we back then? So, while I am proud to be part of this awesome community that stood up for this very site here, I feel ashamed of myself for not being there last year already, when DF first reared its ugly, ugly head.
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kakashi
March 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM
and yes, we deserve to feel good about what "we", this community, have accomplished - but I do hope that people don't have too short of a memory and forget what happened: and I hope nobody is thinking that this is "over" and that they have learned their lesson. DramaFever (and their "third parties") will continue to push for a KDrama monopoly, probably not only in the US, but also other parts of the world (I have access in Europe now). It is clearly their business strategy and I doubt they're thinking about changing it. It is possible that some of you don't mind about this ... but I do mind. Very much!
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kakashi
March 8, 2013 at 8:47 AM
seriously. Now, they have disabled the comments section on their "apologies" post. http://blog.dramafever.com/2013/03/a-message-from-dramafever/. Too unpleasant, the truth?
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hydrangeabloom
March 8, 2013 at 10:15 AM
They probably thought they could sweep this one under the rug.
Merry
March 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Well done, DBers. Truly feeling the oneness with you all. What a professional bunch of lovely peeps. Awesome display of netizens power - kdrama followers at that. Now let it be known that you cross this mighty bunch of Phds, lawyers, med students, artists, IT experts and downright passionate and ethical people at your peril! High five everyone. Ever be alert though for the forces Karachi mention here.
Merry
March 8, 2013 at 10:26 AM
Sorry, that should be kakashi. My tablet auto corrects; weird.
skelly
March 8, 2013 at 12:19 PM
Actually, I was able to make a comment just now. Maybe, like the rest of the site, the behavior is just wonky. I wish I had a dollar for every time their connection conks out on me.
kakashi
March 8, 2013 at 1:09 PM
it works again now
Ace
March 8, 2013 at 7:46 AM
I also just learned about what they did to *small* subbers and other sites illegal though they may be, but those sites did bring a lot of people be the drama addicts they are now.
However, they may have stopped their actions against DB (by blaming it on a third party, which sounds BS to me) but I read from some comments that they're now trying to take down torrent sites so it might affect some streaming sites that they couldn't take down (because they aren't U.S.-based?) so I might not be able to watch even raw episodes in the future. That makes me so much madder. I've already emailed them at their stupid blog twice, sent them a puublic and private message at FB too.
I hope some of the blogs that have a link to their site remove it for now until DF learns how to be a part of the community. There are a lot of us international fans and if it affects our drama-watching because they're trying to monopolize the market, then I hope the response would be even worse than what they received from Beanies.
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Unnursvana
March 8, 2013 at 12:21 PM
MTE. I would really hate it if they will keep me or anybody else that liked to watch dramas away from watching them. Unless it we would watch it on Dramafever but I don't really want to at this point, and I can't since none of their stuff is available to me because of where I live and I don't see that really changing anytime soon.
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 7:19 AM
I've been out of it for a couple weeks. (oh btw, was studying for and passed my brokers exam yay, and went for a short vaca to Sapporo :D). But it sounds like I missed something big. Who are these dickweeds?
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Enz
March 8, 2013 at 9:04 AM
Read this pillowhead
http://www.dramabeans.com/2013/03/announcement-level-7-civil-servant-recaps-now-with-less-joo-won/
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 9:18 AM
tsk tsk. bad DF.
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Kiara
March 8, 2013 at 7:38 AM
LOL I was thinking Dramafever when I saw the word without reading the rest.
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alua
March 8, 2013 at 8:43 AM
Very interested in your post-mortem blog post!
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:27 AM
you expressed it so eloquently :D
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hydrangeabloom
March 8, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Well said, cherkell. What a week.
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7 umbanana
March 8, 2013 at 6:39 AM
Happy Friday lovely Beanies!
For once I'm sad it's Friday because that means the end of my week off... and I've got two full-day courses this weekend. Oh joys.
Anyway it's been an exciting few days, hasn't it? It was such a mean and nasty thing they did but look on the bright side - It's made me so proud to be a Beanie and the sense of community definitely feels stronger. And I totally enjoyed the latest L7CS recap - stick figure (+ random old SC) version. It made the show much more entertaining. As much as I love Joo Won, I couldn't get past episode 1.
So on the drama-front, still pretty much obsessed with TWTWB. Even watched episode 8 unsubbed... and surprisingly understood through majority of it. I'm saving the subbed version for this weekend... sth to look forward to in the evening after 10 hours of class.
Before I dash off - wishing all Beanies a very relaxing weekend and GO BEANIES!
Oh. And I have been re-given my job offer! Woot! Just need to decide where to actually work...
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 6:48 AM
Congrats on the job offer!!!
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:12 AM
YAY!!!! Glad the mix-up is finished with. Hope you like the job. ..and wherever you choose to work.
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8 azuretash
March 8, 2013 at 6:40 AM
Happy Friday everyone!! A great positive from this week's debacle is that it showed how united the Dramabeans community is. I'm so glad to be a part of it :)
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Mystisith
March 8, 2013 at 6:50 AM
You tell me! Proud indeed.
BTW, I love the song of the day: It's OK by Nevermind. How fitting! :)
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9 marid
March 8, 2013 at 6:40 AM
Hi everyone!!!
Its a beutiful day here in AZ, its raining! Which I always enjoy since it does not happen often. Glad that things are back to normal here at DB.
I completely enjoy the recap last nigth with it it's random screenshots.
So, since I'm not loving any of the current dramas, I went back to watching some older ones. I started with Shut up flowerboy band, since back in my Kdrama watching infancy I gave up on it. Sooo I'm ready to admit how wrong I was. I'm only 5 episodes in and I'm totally hooked. I really have no clue why I did not like it the first time around. I also wonder if having watched White Christmas, and Can we get married help me change my opinion.
I also started to watch Que sera sera, wow! I only seen about 7 episodes in and if it stays in the same style, it may turn into one if my favorite dramas.
I also gave La vita Bella a try, could not make it pass the first episode. Talk about depressing, no amount of Wookie could make me watch more.
Lastly I stated to watch My girl again, how I love that show.
Soo now I need new (old shows) to watch, I need suggestion please :)
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Jae Shin
March 8, 2013 at 7:07 AM
If you like violence...
I would suggest The Man from Nowhere! ^_^ I've watched it countless times..
There is also Haunters/Psychic (has Kang Dong Won)... ^_^
Werewolf Boy is a new one, and it is amazing... Made me bawl my eyes out (I'm not usually one to cry during a movie)...
That is all I can think of... ^_^
Stay strong and hang in there~~~
- Jae Shin -
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 8:02 AM
Omo. I loved Man from Nowhere. That's where I met Won Bin, my secret lover. :P
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:15 AM
I liked Devil, with the whole revenge plot.
Also liked Syndrome, greed/medical thriller
Flower Boy Ramyun shop and Dalja's Spring are some good comedies.
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:15 AM
oh, and The Chaser
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marid
March 8, 2013 at 7:27 AM
I love Daljas spring! So I could watch it again.. FBRS I seen, I like it, did not love it. I need to give the others a try.. I had Devil in my queue for a few months now.
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:52 AM
I think i was blind to the flaws of FBRS because of the blinding beauty of Jung Il Woo. It happens. ;-)
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marid
March 8, 2013 at 12:30 PM
See I was the opposite, I got on the second lead ship, and loved that boy to the end. Even if I have replayed the scene where Jung Il and the Kinchi a few times. I still loved Tall guy a lot more..
Enz
March 8, 2013 at 9:20 AM
I'm the opposite. I loved FBRS but didn't find dalja's spring very interesting.
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skelly
March 8, 2013 at 12:23 PM
I had Devil in my queue for ages, but I avoided it because I don't do melo. But this was a revenge tale on a downright Shakespearean level (the stage strewn with rushes in the first act, and strewn with bodies in the fifth act) and I loved, loved, loved it.
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aznative
March 8, 2013 at 5:17 PM
Definitely need to watch Devil.
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 8:12 AM
YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYMariD!!!!! for SUFFB and QSS!! u just keep on loving QSS cause it IS gonna get better. oh.. so much better!!!!! now there's 5 of us that share the love. lol. that's not a lot, is it? but I'm so happy. :D
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 8:20 AM
SIX..six of us. <3 this is a good slot for the ode to QSS ladies... enz, Korazy, Joanne and Julia. :)
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 8:25 AM
....Eric.....
off to watch bits and pieces, I think.
of the drama.
Not bits and pieces of Eric. Although I understand those pictures are available, somewhere out there...
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 8:52 AM
LOL. oh yeah? hmm.
marid
March 8, 2013 at 12:32 PM
Where has he gone??? I want to watch him in more shows...
Enz
March 8, 2013 at 8:59 AM
I'm here to add to the QSS love! So, just carry on with it. It's got one of the best endings too, in my opinion :)
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Julia
March 8, 2013 at 9:17 AM
QSS is awesome. It had me at soapy Eric.
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skelly
March 8, 2013 at 12:26 PM
I tried to watch QSS very early in my Kdrama-watching career, and got totally turned off in the first episode with all of the toilet references. I've just started watching it again and now, several kdramas later, it doesn't bother me at all, LOL - I had to be culturally desensitized.
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marid
March 8, 2013 at 12:35 PM
Omg... Same here... It's only been about a year since I started kdramas... I'm still not used to the whole toilet/restrooms jokes in almost every show. Yet know, I just roll my eyes and keep watching.
Alex Mottis
March 8, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Ohhhhh, Que Será, Será, I've been dying to watch that show for the longest time but I haven't gotten around to watching it.
My Girl is one of the first dramas I watched and it holds a dear place in my heart. Thanks to it I discovered the beauty that Lee Dong Wook is <3
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marid
March 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM
Yes.. He is very pretty but don't forget how equally pretty Lee Jun-Ki is.
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houstontwin
March 8, 2013 at 10:17 AM
I loved My Girl except for the last couple of episodes.
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aznative
March 8, 2013 at 5:15 PM
I'm from Arizona too we got hail today in the Valley of the Sun! You might try watching Ad Genius, Lee Tae-baek on viki.com
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10 Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 6:47 AM
Woohoo, I'm so excited for Open Thread!
Finally saw A WereWolf Boy! If that could get recapped somewhere so all the "feels" could be worked out in the comments, that would be awesome. ;-D
Also watched Princess Toyotomi: okay.
And I was comparing Song Joong-Ki and Woobie My Wuv: SJK is beautiful and cute, sure, but Woobie is exquisite, just exquisite.
And Kim Nam-Gil, my first drama hero love? One hot time waiting to happen. ;-)
I'll probably do multiple postings since I'm getting ready for to be sworn into the DC Bar. (How much of a k-drama addict am I that I'm on this thread right now instead of just eating and leaving?)
So, Question For You All: how many boys does a K-Pop Boy Band really need? over 6 seems excessive to me.
Toodle-pip!
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 6:50 AM
Congrats on becoming official, number 1, and number 2 - how odd, I debated that same question this week myself. I think up to 5 is optimal, but I would accept 6.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 6:55 AM
Ha, thank you! Technically, I've been official since 2004, but in NYC. And I need the DC bar (local) because almost every day, I plan to pick up everything and walk out forever...
I agree with your numbers. Whenever youtube suggests a 9 member band, Block B aside (still super-excessive but love nililli mambo), I freak out and switch back to something on fountain pens.
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 6:59 AM
Ah, yeah - I do love those Block B nutcases. But I only really pay attention to Zico, truth be told...
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 7:38 AM
ZICOOOOO. he's a little hotty. PO is cute too. :D
Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 10:51 AM
I like Zico and PO. Sigh, wish I lived in Korea!
kopytko
March 9, 2013 at 2:44 AM
Lol. I've been watching fountain pen reviews rather than dramas recently too.
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marid
March 8, 2013 at 6:58 AM
First congrats.
Second, lol. I always wonder about the number of people neded in a Kpop boy band. You have your Bigbang that seems to be completely ok with just 5 member, yet I wonder how a performance would suffer if let's say TOP was out sick? Who would do his rap sequences? While in an huge group like Super Junior it's ok to b missing a few members. I think SuJu started with 12 members and its now down to 9. It's actually really funny to watch old performances of SuJu when all the members were there and the stage was too small. Someone always crashes in the back..
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sweetcloud
March 8, 2013 at 7:11 AM
Lol the most epically cramped stage was for "Show me you love", a collab with tvxq. 13 suju + 5 tvxq = 18 people fighting for camera time and struggling to not fall off :D
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marid
March 8, 2013 at 7:33 AM
Ohhh!! Soo much pretty on one stage! How did the world not implode? I have to go find this...
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sweetcloud
March 8, 2013 at 4:10 PM
It was part of an SM Town Christmas album so there are probably only a couple of performances but it was funny and sweet :D
But my math is wrong, I checked it again and Kyuhyun was not part of the group yet so it's "only" 12+5 people
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sweetcloud
March 8, 2013 at 4:11 PM
*show me your love
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Ace
March 8, 2013 at 8:00 AM
13 initial SuJu members. Minus Chinese member Hangeng who sued SM for his unfair contract, Heechul & Leeteuk both now in their mandatory military service, Kibum is concentrating on his acting career (I'm actually not quite sure if he'll ever come back to the group) so we're now down to Siwon, Eunhyuk, Ryeowook, Kyuhyun, Donghae, Shindong, Kangin, Yesung, and Sungmin.
I don't mind a huge number of members in a kpop group since they can be divided into subgroups that perform a particular genre and as long as they do quality stuff. Honestly, I've been a lot disappointed with the last 2 albums of SuJu and I found their earlier stuff (especially the dancing) better quality-wise. They really had great choreography back then. How could one choreograph a 13-member boyband and do a great job of it?
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maldita
March 8, 2013 at 9:07 AM
No. 12 initial members. Kyuhyun was only added 6 months later, so saying that "Super Junior started with 12" is correct. :)
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Ace
March 8, 2013 at 9:12 AM
Oh yeah! Forgot about that. I always think that Kyu was part of the group since they've gone through so much and the current rapport is so good and Kyu has grown (and became mean to his hyungs heh).
Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM
G-dragon would do TOP's rap. If both are out sick, they'll have to give up the rap or bring in Psy.
With Block B, I notice in their vids that not all have solos. So perhaps some are really, what's the stage term for back-ups? Oh yes, understudies.
Sweet loud, I've got to look that up! Sounds so funny.
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aznative
March 8, 2013 at 5:23 PM
I would vote for Tablo for rap.
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tweetie
March 8, 2013 at 6:59 AM
Werewolf boy is available yays!!
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 7:46 AM
Hey Tweetie, I was going to watch that this weekend :D. Also totally excieted about Gu Family Book. Can not wait for that. Seung Giiii pale pale!!!!
Has anyone watched Harvest Villa? Just started watching and haven't decided how i feel about it but it's really bizarre. Might be good.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM
We need someplace to discuss A Werewolf Boy. Honestly, it has a lot of feels.
@korfan, Please, Korean Entertainment companies, stop at 7 for the love of God! Really, they should stop at 5...
@sweetcloud, I have to look up Dream Girl. Sounds like its very good!
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sweetcloud
March 8, 2013 at 4:13 PM
Try to find a live performance of Dream Girl, the song and choreo are very energetic and Shinee really has a good synchronization :D
aznative
March 8, 2013 at 5:23 PM
I loved Harvest Villa, definitely not your run-of-the-mill drama, but I stuck with it and really liked it.
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 9:10 PM
yeah. I described it as Quentin Tarantino meets Mr. Bean. lol. It is so quirky.
korfan
March 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM
TS -
*giggling* at the Boy Band question, because I've heard this mentioned before here and there ..... not so long ago I did hear on some program that most of the time they try to have 7 or some other odd number so as to be able to do the dance formations .... apparently even numbers don't work as well for certain dance formations the choreographers have in mind .... I guess this is why we see the groups with 9 members, 11, etc.
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skelly
March 8, 2013 at 12:29 PM
I agree. From a dance standpoint, odd numbers work best.
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sweetcloud
March 8, 2013 at 7:07 AM
I would say six too but my fav idol band is super junior so... In the end it's the only group along with big bang, tvxq and ss501 (where did they go?!) where I know all the members names. I enjoy listening to multiple groups but only remember the members who stand out to me, like L and Hoya in Infinite or Onew and Key in Shinee.
And btw Dream Girl is my guilty pleasure of the moment. I love the choreo!!
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marid
March 8, 2013 at 7:30 AM
Dream girl... Sigh.. I'm still waiting for my cd... Yesasia your shipping sucks!!!
I'm till waiting for SuJu to go back to their old music days... We need some ballads boys!!! I was not as big of fan of their last cd, even when Spy is my current alarm clock song..
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maldita
March 8, 2013 at 7:42 AM
SS501 all went to different agencies, yet they stressed that they haven't disbanded. Basically, they're trying to do the Shinhwa thing, yet it's not really working much right now 'cause one of them started military service last year. The others have all had solo releases in the last 2 years.
Youngsaeng's having a comeback now, and Kim Hyunjoong's releasing a new album by summer. I think.
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:17 AM
Congratulations on the DC bar!!!!
And yes, Werewolf boy is soo good. There is a kind of folkloric primeval melancholy to it. One almost doesn't need subs.
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 7:24 AM
My first two watches were sub-less, and there was very little I didn't get.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:01 AM
Thanks, Carole!
I watched with subs, though I agree, it could've been watched without. However, the end: I'm glad I had subs. Oh gosh, lump in throat...
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:03 AM
You're so right about the folkloric aspect. Oh, but it made me cry a bit.
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maldita
March 8, 2013 at 7:46 AM
5, I guess. Big fan of DBSK and SHINee and HOT, and even BSB, NSYNC, and NKOTB and the almight Spice Girls. I suppose I've always gravitated towards 5-membered groups.
Though my current obsession is none other than EXO, just because it's been so long since I invested on a rookie group and I'm just tired of all the drama in the DBSK fandom.
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 8:30 AM
EXO has a great R&B sound. The Kpop master, Jeanette introduced me to them.
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Jeannette
March 8, 2013 at 4:07 PM
LOL AWWWW! Hey I'm going to do an EXO lesson soon! Have you played teh SEXO game/ LOL DIED
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 9:14 PM
lol. no. not YET. :D
Jeannette
March 9, 2013 at 8:15 AM
YOU HAVE TO! LOL I put a link to it on DNA ages ago. I married one of them lol. Dated the other. I get around, aww yeah. (someone please make me a SHINee one that I can marry Onew and have baby jinkis wahhh)
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:04 AM
5 is a good number in my head. Like I said earlier (I think) 7 is pushing it. After that, my mind boggles.
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 2:02 PM
TS, 5 is good with me too. Imo BigBang is perfectlly membered. The hotness gets diluted after 5.
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 8:40 AM
I also watched Werewolf Boy a few days ago. Personally, I did not like it much. I think part of it was because when I first heard of it and saw the trailers, I was super excited for it so I may have had very high expectations for it. However, while watching, I kinda felt a bit bored....everything looked beautiful and all, but it didn't seem too exciting. Song Joong Ki was very cute...I just found it funny that he was barely visible during his wolverine mode....like the director didn't want to make him look ugly, lol.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:07 AM
He's a bit like the Hulk: changes when he really gets upset.
I was actually shocked because I thought he was just a feral child.
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cmrprindle
March 8, 2013 at 6:11 PM
Congratulations, TS! I think today you rate as kdrama-addict #1 :D
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malta
March 8, 2013 at 7:12 PM
"So, Question For You All: how many boys does a K-Pop Boy Band really need? over 6 seems excessive to me."
ahahahahaha... 12
I use to think more than 5 was excessive but then I got into kpop idol groups beyond BigBang and 2ne1 and I spent an unholy (errr...embarrassing) amount of time on tumblr and YouTube and well....that changed my mind.
Congrats on being a lawyer and all! Awesomeness!!!
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11 kdramafan
March 8, 2013 at 6:50 AM
This week reaffirmed how awesome the Dramabeans site and community is.
Way to go everybody!
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12 swurbel
March 8, 2013 at 7:01 AM
hello beanies and happy weekend!!!!
It is cold and grey here again. Wanna cry. Where is the sun??? Maybe You know it???
So: and it is my first comment, which i write with my smartphone. Puhhhh ... that`s really hard..
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kdramapedia
March 8, 2013 at 8:05 AM
I use DB on my smartphone, too, and yes, it is a huge pain! That's why I don't post most of the time, hehe. (Well, also because I'm at work & can't exactly be on my phone all day...) But don't let it deter you!
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Swurbel
March 8, 2013 at 9:03 AM
The normal PC is definitely more comfortable for me. :-)
But maybe I should just buy bigger smartphone? Thanks to productplacement in kdramas, we can see all types of stylish smartphones.
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kdramapedia
March 8, 2013 at 9:30 AM
ha, I actually purchased my phone due to kdrama product placement, LOL!
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:21 AM
The day I got my Galaxy s3, I put it to me ear, and said, "oh Jung ho! Why aren't you in school?"
Ainos
March 8, 2013 at 11:33 AM
Kdrama product placement confirmed my decision for my new phone. :)
skelly
March 8, 2013 at 12:34 PM
So did I. Until December, when I finally got a new phone, my phone was the one Ha Rim had in Coffee Prince - remember when he slid open the phone with his cheek and handed to his new potential GF? I was sold. I even had the same color. I miss my slidey-phone >sob<
sweetcloud
March 8, 2013 at 4:06 PM
Omg I used to find the galaxy note ridiculously huge but now that I see all the ppl with ginormous phone tablets I feel like it's just the fit size! The power of pretty drama leads.
Enz
March 8, 2013 at 5:21 PM
No, smartphones are such a pain when it comes to commenting or replying. At least for me, really hate it!
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Swurbel
March 8, 2013 at 11:10 AM
(...home, sweet home..)
I am watching L7CS.
But currently am not entirely convinced of the kdrama. Somehow I had the feeling, the last episode wanted to show us chic ski and winter clothing (before the sale starts) instead of developing the story.
And so watching TWTWB.
Beautiful people and beautiful pictures. But I'll probably stop. To melo melo and somewhat nerve wracking. If it were a book, I would scroll to the bottom and read the final scenes. I need to practice my patience.
I also watched AdGenius in one pass.
I kind of like the drama already and want to know what happens next. Ok. I know. The good ones will win.
But the characters are a bit exaggerated (for my taste). Here the cheerful, warm-hearted, spontaneous, creative heroes. And their opponents are good-looking but slick, emotionally cold and sharp marketing strategists. ( who are also just puppets of their superiors). ((I mean, those people really exist. They talk sweetly to you and and looking for your weak points at the same time without sweating.))
Anyway, these suffering silent stares of that evil duo annoys me somehow. Too one-dimensional. But potential is there. I hope for an improvement.
And I am watching xxxHolic.
I'm not a fan of the manga or anime. But I like the drawingstyle of the manga. Reminds me of ART DECO pictures of Aubrey Beardsley or Alfons Mucha. How ever.
I think, the manga style is unmistakable. In particular: the arrangement of people in the scenes, the changing focus from the foreground or background, crazy perspective, many close up shots and so on....
xxxHolic is dark, mysterious, crazy jdrama and very stylish in its own way.
The witch is simply magnificent. Even if you do not like the drama, it's worth watching because of the witch and her georgeous (gothic)-outfits.
Have a nice weekend
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hydrangeabloom
March 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM
I think that the manga reads in a fairly predictable way until around volume six, and then afterward the plot becomes much deeper and more profound. The art is simply gorgeous. I love the style CLAMP went with for xxxHolic.
It was always interesting to me that 95% of the characters in that manga were female. I see in the preview for episode two that they will change some of the minor characters to men probably to add balance. I hope that we might get a different resolution to a certain plot point raised in episode one that is clearly different than in the manga (but I dislike how this particular plot point was handled in the manga).
I agree that the drama team is doing a great job with Yuuko's outfits. They were always so beautifully illustrated in the manga. However, I think they cast her too young. I imagined a more mature woman in this role how I read her.
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Swurbel
March 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM
I think it is not easy to produce a series based on a successful manga (or book). Expectations are always high, and different.
I know that manga and the storyline only a little. Therefore, I can watch the drama relatively unbiased. The smoking scenes in Ep2 I do not like. But I generally do not like chain smoking, not even in movies or dramas - but that's personal preference.
Anyway, I like that drama very well. It's special. (if you can say that after 2 episodes)
Yukoo - too young? Maybe. But I like her mysterious charisma. I wonder what will happen when she is upset or angry?? (goosebumps)
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cmrprindle
March 8, 2013 at 6:10 PM
When I'm better about posting, I post from my phone, too. My Blackberry made posting easier but the screen was tinier. My new phone is bigger but it can sometimes be weird about the cursor. AND THE AUTOCORRECT!!! Sorry...my autocorrect gives me fits, as you can see. Still and all, Welcome to the OT! We're always happy to see new faces and hear new voices, no matter what their posting-interface ;)
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chiomy
March 10, 2013 at 12:41 AM
Oh My God, sun!
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chiomy
March 10, 2013 at 12:44 AM
that last comment was @swurbel....
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13 pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deck🍉
March 8, 2013 at 7:02 AM
Happy OT everyone - after the week DB's had, it couldn't come soon enough! (though I'm LOVING the stick figure art in place of caps, it is awesome on one level and actually makes me go into the L7CS recaps)
My currently airing dramas slate is empty at the mo because I don't really care too much about anything and even TWTWB is something I catch up with when I feel like it/have time instead of waiting breathlessly like I used to do with School and FBND (and Arang and Nice Guy before that).
But on the older dramas side, I decided to give Love and Marriage a try because I like both the actors so much (Kim Ji-hoon and Kim Min-hee!) and even though I like them a lot, the show's not great. But it's ok, and I'm only on episode 2 anyway.
Also, pertinent to the DB community - Yoo Seung-ho sneaked off to military service this week! No farewell, just a fan cafe message and his new buzz cut. I bet two years will fly past...
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Jae Shin
March 8, 2013 at 7:16 AM
Unless you're a hard core Yoo Seung-ho fan (like me)...
In which case the time will be crawling...
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Russe12
March 8, 2013 at 7:22 AM
Same here; time can't go fast enough. So proud of him, but at the same time I want to be selfish and keep him in dramaland forever.
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:20 AM
yeah, i was missing Arang and Faith as well.
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 7:53 AM
also missing Arang.
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 8:42 AM
I'm missing Lee Jun Ki terribly. Wish Arang had done much better ratings-wise so he could come in another project quickly.
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March 8, 2013 at 9:15 AM
He's promised his fans another acting project in 2013, so fingers crossed that it happens and that it's good!
Arang aired with some strong competition in the genre stakes (melo >>> fantasy sageuk for a lot of Korea) , but I think 13-14% average ratings were solid, if not spectacular.
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Aw, thanks for the good news. :)
Oh but those ratings don't sound awful....the way everyone was talking about it in the recaps, it sounded worse so I thought it must've been really bad. But that's pretty good. I guess it was Nice Guy raking in all the numbers.
CaroleMcDonnell
March 10, 2013 at 5:23 AM
Sometimes i wonder why great projects get such terrible ratings. It happens so often.
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:37 AM
i miss Faith *sniff sniff* although i know it didn't do too well in terms of ratings and critique.
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Ainos
March 8, 2013 at 11:36 AM
What miss from Faith is LMH!
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korfan
March 8, 2013 at 7:29 AM
pogo -
Yoo Seung-ho will missed. Definitely.
I have to add that I'm watching him now in I Miss You. I remember seeing him here and there for the past couple of years and not really paying attention to him. To me he was always "Baby Minjae" (from his Flames of Ambition days) ..... then he appeared in I Miss You as Harry..... wow! ..... pure awesomeness from Yoo Seung-ho at every turn ..... he's not a baby anymore!
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:23 AM
I'm glad I discovered KimNamGil at the end of his service.
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14 CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM
Hi all:
Hope everyone is doing well. Am trapped inside with all this snow. Not really cabin fever but a growing impatience with winter. I couldn't watch a lot of dramas this week because I was also trapped with proofing. Mercifully next week my time will be a bit freer.
I've given up watching Incarnation of Money. Am still vaguely interested in it, which means i'll read the DB recaps but that time jump in which our hero becomes slightly corrupt just totally did not sit well with me. Am also not watching 100 year inheritance. Will just wait until the last episode. The heroine of 100 years just takes the victimized good woman to a whole nother level and her finally coming to life is coming a might too late. I'm thinking the reason I love these two dramas is because of the ballsy older women. Boss/Gentleman of Jjingae and MIL from hell.
Was glad that Nobunaga didn't finish with the last episode. Looks like we have a few more to go. I can still stop time and gaze on Ken's wonderful lips. Am hoping Youko is a sister or something but (weirdly) if she and Ken are an item, I'm shipping the present. I want Ken to return to the present, period. So whatever happens -- if youko has to die or Ken has to leave Natsu-- then let it happen.
Liking Shotenin a lot. Hottie school friend is just soooo wonderful. He just creeps me out and I fear for our heroine being forever linked and beholden to him. And his would-be squeaky perfect girlfriend is kinda weird as well.
Watching Virus, which i really like as well although sometimes it is a might over-the-top. Still, i like all the characters...even if they are a bit cliched. Am really trusting this drama. Liking Hottie typhoid Mary/Mario as well.
Liking Assholic live drama version and waiting for Otome-san. Also waiting for the subs for Monsters and Switch girl. Waiting for a couple of samurai dramas to be subbed, and waiting for new sajeuks to pop up this month. And my time travel addiction.
Trying to catch up on Queen of Ambition, Conspiracy in the Court, Palace. Still haven't watched TWTWB. I really have to be in the mood for a melo, especially one where i feel i already know the ending.
Happy weekend, All.
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March 8, 2013 at 7:39 AM
Hey Carole! I have the same feeling as you re: TWTWB, it needs one to be in the mood for it and I am just.....not. I don't even care about the will-Soo-get-busted thing any more, though that's really just my mood and I'm sure it'll be exciting when I get around to watching it.
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:57 AM
Melo requires a willingness to be manipulated into caring and a willingness to be dragged through the ringer for valid reasons....and...well...I like the set up of TWTB. I love brother sister dramas but when one has seen a thing before.... Anyway, I started watching it and didn't make it through the first episode. But so many folks have been liking it.
On the other hand, I kinda liked the first episode of Ad Genius but the set up was just not doing anything for me. So although I liked it..I expected all kinds of silly machinations...notwithstanding how good the first episode was. But who knows?
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 8:50 AM
I'm on the fence with this drama. I do kinda like the lead actor. I think he's good in this role even though SOME people disagree. lol. just kidding Enz. In some scenes he's really handsome but he has really bad posture especially when he wears the chiminey sweeping outfit.
I keep wondering about him being abandoned and if they'll use that to mess with us in some sick fauxcest way. Bummy is way cute in this and his acting is improving. relief.
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 9:40 AM
Bummy whipped
Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 9:22 PM
actually that wouldn't be fauxcest anymore would it, it'll be just plain old incest. eek.
Oh, wouldn't it be wild if Song Hye-kyo's character was actually really maniplative and lieing about the step mom. That little miss perfect was actually Kra-Kra?
Enz
March 8, 2013 at 9:17 AM
I am watching TWTWB but am not one of those loving it so much. Just interested to see where it will go but not really invested in any of the characters. And yes, pillowhead is right, I am not (yet) So impressed with JIS's acting either.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:16 AM
What's a good brother-sister drama?
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:10 AM
Hi Pogo!
Same here: I'm just not in the mood for TWTWB.
Carole, I started Xxxholic live as well. Not sure how I feel about it yet.
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March 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM
TS - if there's anything that's really holding me to that drama, it's the beta couple - Bummie and Eun-ji are every bit as adorable together as I wanted them to be (and ep. 9 had me in SQUEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!) even though I'm scared her Soo-crush will rear its head again and while I don't mind it wild-carding Soo, I don't want it to hurt Jin-sung,
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 12:44 PM
No, definitely do not want Jin-Sung or any other character played by Bummie to be hurt. Agreed.
DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 8:47 AM
Carole, I remember how you really liked Incarnation of Money for first 6 episodes even though there were a lot of people (including me) griping about it in ep 5-6.
But I'm on the same page as you too. I'm very disappointed in Cha Don post-second leap. I'm all for antiheroes but they have to have a compelling reason for being one. Here, I couldn't understand why on earth Cha Don was like that when he had always had a sense of righteousness since childhood. Such a personality whiplash didn't sit well with me at all. :(
But yeah....I'm still vaguely interested in the story so I will simply rely on recaps for now and wait until the connection between Cha Don and his mom is made again.
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 10:59 AM
EXACTLY!!! On the one hand there re plotting issues that I will dislike in ANY story. On the other hand, I'm not much of a fair drama-viewer. There are things I will forgive one drama for and totally dislike if another drama does it. For whatever reasons. But what i cannot stand is laziness on the part of wriring, especially when it's about a character simply changing.
If the writers are saying in a tongue-in-cheek way that it was all inevitable for our hero to become corrupt....that evil tends to happen, and good guys will go bad if helped toward evil by money etc, I wouldn't mind. After all, Kang Seok was his dad's son and who knows there might have been some seed of evil and cynicism planted in the kid from back in the day? But good lord! To skip over Cha Don's change and to skip over soooooooooooo many plot points...and to have the folks either not change or to have them change in so many strange ways.... I just lost my ability to cut the show some slack.
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sweetcloud
March 8, 2013 at 4:31 PM
Heh, I actually stopped watching IOM at episode 6 because of time constraints but I might not pick it up again based on what you say, or maybe wait and see how it evolves...
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 10, 2013 at 5:37 AM
There are so many other great drama to watch so why waste time on a so-so one. IF you like Japanese dramas, you might like Tonbi or Mahoro .... Both are really really really good. Mahoro is more episodic but Tonbi has a sweet plot to it.
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:39 AM
You know, I think I read somewhere that TWTWB is a remake of a movie, then jap drama. I googled some, and chickened-out... Do I really want to know the ending and spoil it for myself?
I am really tempted to ask you about the ending.... er I CAN'T DECIDE! Should I?
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 9:50 AM
I watched the movie version (Love Me Not) and like half the movie was already covered within the first two episodes. Because of that, I think the show might deter from the movie and possibly the Japanese drama (haven't watched that one so I'm not sure). So it's really up to you whether you want to know the ending or not. However, I would say the ending was very vague and put up for interpretation so it also depends on what you thought the ending might have been.
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 10:01 AM
ok i will hold on to that. thanks daydreamer. i will hold on to that for the next few weeks.
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skelly
March 8, 2013 at 12:39 PM
Word is that this writer likes to deviate from source material, so I would not put too much stock in the characterizations/plot from previous versions of this story.
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:04 PM
Ok then can I'll just try not to think of the ending (trying very hard) and stare (really concentrate) at the pretties!!
I avoid melo, because I don't want to have to explain my puffy eyes. Also it sounds ridiculous that I am crying becase of a drama right? Closet addict :P Only hubby knows.
TWTWB is my first melo in a long time. Not only is it beautifully shot, how can I say no to Jo In-sung, Song Hye-gyo AND Kim Bum?!
15 kdramapedia
March 8, 2013 at 7:03 AM
Morning Beanies!
I hope all is well now that we've calmed down some, haha.
Haven't watched this week's episodes of That Winter yet, and I haven't watched yesterday's Level 7, either. I am super behind on Incarnation of Money, too. So many dramas, so little time!
And I *still* haven't seen SHINee's comeback stage! What is wrong with me?!
Random question: Do Koreans use Instagram? I want to look at my fave Kpop/Kstars every place possible!
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Jae Shin
March 8, 2013 at 7:21 AM
Yep!
YG Ent.'s singers have started using Instagram...
^_^
And probably so have other singers, but I'm not really interested in singers themselves as much as their music. ^_^
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kdramapedia
March 8, 2013 at 9:31 AM
I'm more interested in the beauty of the actors. Drooling over them in dramas is just not enough!
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maldita
March 8, 2013 at 7:23 AM
A few of them have Instagram. G-Dragon's very active in Instagram, actually.
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kdramapedia
March 8, 2013 at 8:08 AM
ooh, share, share! what are their usernames?
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16 Russe12
March 8, 2013 at 7:12 AM
Happy Friday, everyone! It seems like the week has gone by so slowly...
I'm just about finishing up with Best Love. I am totally in love with this drama! In episode 14, I was just bawling my eyes out half of the time. But then again, I cry easily. But it's so. Good. Definitely a fave.
I'm also trying to decide what to watch next. Queen Inhyun's Man is next up on my list, but I'm kinda in the mood for more of a melo or at least more serious drama; but then again, QIHM isn't a slapstick comedy, either. Indecision strikes again! I could also go back to some of my unfinished dramas, like SUFBB or Who Are You. Or School 2013, I really wanted to watch that...although I'll probably just end up sticking to my list.
I read the recaps for White Christmas the other day and LOVED them. I totally wish I could handle watching it, but I'm one of the biggest scaredy-cats there is so I'm absolutely positive I couldn't do it. The sorrow...and I have always had a thing for Lee Soo-hyuk, so to have him, Sung Joon, AND Kim Woobin in a drama that I can't watch? This is awful, haha.
Enjoy your day!
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marid
March 8, 2013 at 7:46 AM
Best love.. It's still one of the only dramas were I love the lead even when he was an a#%. I still can't look at a bottle of vitamin water and not picture his face on it.
I would totally suggest watching white Christmas. The cast is great and the sound track is to die for. Plus Wobin, and his red hair...
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Russe12
March 8, 2013 at 8:57 AM
Haha, I might end up breaking down and watching White Christmas anyways, although I'm sure I'll regret it when I'm trying to sleep at night. xD It's just so good...especially Woobin and his red hair.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM
Oh yes, Woobie in red is [gulping] awesome.
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 7:59 AM
Queen In Hyun's Man. And if you like Ji Nyun Woo (whom i totally love) you might like My sweet city (or my sweet Seoul). Romance with a hint of melo.
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Russe12
March 8, 2013 at 8:58 AM
I'll be sure to check it out! And I am leaning more towards QIHM for my next drama...especially since I'm on spring break and could probably finish it all within the next week. :D
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:44 AM
My vote is QIHM!! Totally!
Now that I discovered Kim Woobin is in White Christmas, hmm I might have to check it out.
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17 Shiku
March 8, 2013 at 7:21 AM
Hi beanies!
So I started watching Brain this week and I'm currently in ep 19. I see why Shin Ha Kyung got the major acting awards due to his performance as Lee Kang Hoon. With that said, I hated his character from day one and whenever I felt a twinge of sympathy, he did something dickish and I go back to hating him lol. I think I prefer Golden Time instead of Brain as I liked the progression of the characters on the show, how they got better, how they struggled to make a trauma unit when bureaucracy is waiting to rear its ugly head and take back all the advances they have made. I liked how the male/female lead complimented each other and both were competent. It was interesting to watch Lee Sung Min portray 2 surgeons in the 2 shows who were completely different from each other. He was such an angel as Dr.Choi in Golden Time while such a douchebag (Dr. Go Jae Hak) in Brain.
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18 Conny
March 8, 2013 at 7:21 AM
Yay!!! Friday!!! One more week until Spring Break. The boys are definitely looking forward to it. I can't believe it's March already. Or that we're about to 'spring forward' this weekend. Or that I'm 1 week shy of having a second teenager.
Well, I'm off to clean my house and then catch up on the last two episodes of Ad Genius that I haven't seen yet. Have a great weekend everyone!!
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19 maldita
March 8, 2013 at 7:30 AM
I'm still shocked that Yoo Seungho officially enlisted a few days back. This noona still wasn't prepared.
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20 oftheshore
March 8, 2013 at 7:31 AM
Hi all!
My laptop's crashed recently, and the repair is so expensive I won't be able to watch dramas at home in the nearest future.=( It also means I have to pretty much live in the office, which leads to my question of the week (ahem): what are your favourite workplace dramas (K,J or T)? what do you think of the way work, especially office work, is portrayed in dramas?
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:46 AM
I enjoyed Baby Faced Beauty. Does that count?
I remember it was quite low-key but I especially love watching Jan Nara and Daniel Choi together :) Which is why I watched 2013, then it lead me to Kim Woobin...
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 10:19 AM
I've tried several workplace dramas of various countries and none really did it for me except the Indian version of Ugly Betty (and that was before the story derailed terribly) and the Tdrama My Queen. I tried Anego a long while back but quit it for some reason (forgot what it was).
The trouble with workplace dramas is that they have the tendency to go into boring machinations of the workplace that really doesn't interest me. As for portrayal, I think it's decent enough...sometimes there are bloopers/illogical stuff but that's about it.
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kopytko
March 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Hi Oftheshore!
Sorry to hear about your laptop. I can tell you in secret that I bought a little (10'screen) second-hand netbook. It is my portable device and is used to tide me over in cases of emergency (that is when my parents' computer breaks and they use my main laptop). It cost me as much as a bottle of perfumes, so when you have some spare cash, you might consider aquiring one too. One with keyboard is IMO more useful than a tablet.
AS for the workplace dramas, I am not a great fan. Mainly because the protagonist is or wants to be the best professional in the country/world. And that is absurd in my opinion. You need years of practice and hard work and tons of talent to be a true master in any trade, whereas characters in dramas are in their early twenties and kings of their profession. And call me dumb/lazy, but I wouldn't care to compare myself to others. I am all for being good at what you do, but when I see "I will be better than you!!!" I am usually a bit upset. I like developing skills to become better myself, not to feel superior to someone else. Not to mention, that it is seldom assessible who is better. Basing on how many trials? Asking how many experts?
I personally do my best to provide people with possibly good service (be it teaching ot translating) and what matters is whether they are satisfied and whether I, in my own conscience, know that I helped them in best possible way. I know there are people with more experience and skills and I am glad to learn from them or receive constructive criticism, but I know that becoming a master is a lifelong process.
What I like though, is presentig people at work in a realistic but not very serious tone, vide A Gentleman's Dignity. Kim Do Jin and Tae San were shown dealing with different kinds of customers, solving problems; they were passionate, but it was their work - something you need to do in order to live, not the other way round. Actually, I enjoyed YiSoo at her school, too.
I hope you have a lovely weekend. *off to see the series about Anna German in TV*
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kopytko
March 8, 2013 at 11:28 AM
Stupid me, I forgot to mention Dal Ja's Spring - it was a workplace drama that I love. Wholeheartedly.
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marid
March 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM
Tdrama Offiice girls... It's just a hoot from beginning to end plus Roy Qiu is the male lead.
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21 cv
March 8, 2013 at 7:32 AM
Happy OT beanies! :)
Interesting week this has been. WATCHed werewolf boy n it was good. Has its happy and sad moments. No chef is still going. Almost to the end n but hoping it would end well, even if it's a bit sad.
Checked out a few lakorns but storyline wasn't to impressive so dropped it. Might check out old wuxia series since the new ones aren't that interesting.
Have a good all!
PS, love this site! It's my second home. Thank you dramabeans for all you do. ^^
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 7:38 AM
Oops, meant to say have a good day.
Oh and forgot I watched first ep of Virus. Interesting so far.
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22 KimYoonmi
March 8, 2013 at 7:43 AM
The dirth of good dramas makes me sad enough to try to request for Nakuna Hara-chan from Viki.
>.<;; I'm having doubts that we'll get it and it's probably already requested for... but I hope people will help out if we do...
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 9:46 AM
I wonder why viki doesn't have any Jdorama? licensing?
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KimYoonmi
March 8, 2013 at 11:32 AM
I get the impression they want to sell it to the US market themselves. But at the same time they have cultural barriers to overcome.
I put in the request, so we'll see if NHK thinks that Viki is worthy.
If With S2 wasn't banned, it probably would have been subbed by now.
Viki, I thought, got at least one J drama... but the Japanese companies, I think, are being conservative.
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 2:11 PM
Awww.... I see. Thanks for the info. I did wonder since I watch dramas on viki. ^^
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23 Waiting
March 8, 2013 at 7:43 AM
Okay, here goes....relative newbeanie here. :)
Happy Friday!
I am relatively new to k-everything.....maybe since October-ish? Well, I am hooked, naturally.
First, glad the DF/DB issue is perhaps cleared up? LOVED the drawings and that would be fun to continue. I may even try my really poor hand at it one day...and yes, DB you can own the rights to that with my blessing. Oh yeah, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SITE AND RECAPS GF and DB!!
Second, what is up with My Daughter Seoyoung?? The subbing is unbelievably slow. For a popular show, do they not want us to watch? Have you given up on this or know why this is SO delayed? I'd like to get to the end and move on.
Third, I LOVE, LOVE, LOVE TWTWB!! Did anyone notice that in episode 8 there were similar songs to I Miss You? I had to convince myself I was not having some strange brain event. Is there a shortage on music from which to choose? (I loved I Miss You, by the way). Seems we are getting more twisty with the layers of who is connected (brother/thug, sister/national known brain specialist...saw that coming, didn't you?) Just watched ep9 so now I have almost a week before the next episodes come out so...
How to fill my time?? So far, this is what I am following and watch the movies the actors I like are in, but I need more suggestions. What do you think I should watch?
1. TWTWB
2. My Daughter Seoyoung (IF they ever get around to subbing the remaining episodes...grrr!)
3. Running Man (Love this!)
4. 2D1N (when I can find it subbed)
Short list, eh? Help a newbeanie out?
Thanks! :)
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 8:55 AM
There are so many dramas that I can give you but I'm not sure where your tastes lie....so I'll just give you some of my favorites.
1. Vampire Prosecutor 1 and 2 (you will fall in love with sexy Prosecutor Min)
2. Arang and the Magistrate (you will just fall in love with Lee Jun Ki)
3. Gaksital (you will fall deeply in love with Joo Won :D )
4. Can You Hear My Heart? (I just finished watching it a day ago and even though it's very long [30 episodes = 30 hours], it is worth the time. I found the first 4-5 episodes boring so I literally skipped them over, read their recaps instead, and moved to the adult storyline which was way better)
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:49 AM
If you give a hint of what sort of dramas you like we could definitely suggest a few (or more than a few I suspect) dramas :)
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Waiting
March 8, 2013 at 5:46 PM
Hi Sunshower,
I like more than I don't...can I be more vague? I like a balance so if there a a good melo, I like to balance with a good rom-com. The idea is that is is good. For example, I won't watch Level 7 because it sounds too choppy and confusing...love the drawings for it though!
Okay, how about this...(in no order)
Hated...
Oohlala Couple (stopped watching it…)
Just, meh...
Faith (held on for LMH only)
I am Sam
Playful Kiss (cute, but young)
Dream High (cute, but young)
Liked...
City Hunter
Personal Taste
Something Happened in Bali (except the end…really??! Pfft!)
Can We Get Married
Hotelier
Lie to Me
A Gentleman’s Dignity
Boys Over Flowers (between meh and liked)
Full House
The Woman Who Still Wants to Marry
Operation Proposal
Loved...
I Miss you
Padam Padam
If you are seeing a pattern, if I sort of like who was in it, I watched their other work.
Thanks! :)
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 8:23 PM
Hmm ok, let me try! You seem to really like melo which I have a tendency to avoid ha!
My Princess - fluff, really enjoyable and cute - harmless fun really. With eye candy like SSH, why not? Kim Tae Hee was so lovable, I considered forgiving her in IRIS.
Prosecutor Princess - I think the plot is solid, a little melodramatic (trying not to give too much away). I really like Kim So Yeon hence I watched this and I do not regret it at all! Although I can understand if you might be turned off from this due to the recent PSH real life drama. Give this a try!
Arang and the Magistrate - This is the first show I like Lee Jun Ki! (Well the only other one of his I watched was My Girl and his role in that was kind of meh). I think this show was really underrated.
Queen In Hyun's Man - sooo hot!! Highly recommended. Really enjoyed the storytelling.
The King 2 Hearts - but then I like Lee Seung Gi like girlfriday. It was gripping, but the villian was quite insane and a little unbelievable?
These are all quite recent. I am not sure if you are like me but sometimes I cannot watch old stuff because I can't stand the fashion! So I shall not list too dated stuff, because it might not stand up to viewing now.
Only very very good shows can overcome the dated fashion, and withstand the test of time...
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Waiting
March 8, 2013 at 10:10 PM
Thank you so much!!
I had to laugh at the fashion comment because i am the same way. I felt compelled to watch Winter Sonata and Full House as they were mentioned as being staples. However, there is such a difference in clothing - back then was very loose and baggy and now it is skinny everything, tailored and structured. I tend to like the latter, though I love me a pair of cargo pants and a well-cut suit on a man! Let's leave the excessively tent-y clothing behind. BYJ was practically lost in his Hotelier clothing...LOL
Alex Mottis
March 8, 2013 at 10:17 AM
I'm watching (when I have time) 2D1N in a Joo Won fansite, they're a few episodes behind but it's easy to watch it there. I think the newest episode they have is when the Olympic winners were special guests.
I don't know if I can link it, but here it is: http://joowonenglish.wordpress.com/
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oftheshore
March 8, 2013 at 10:54 AM
I'm biased, so I always suggest Coffee Prince before anything else. :D Based on what you said, you might like Que Sera Sera. If you like father-daughter dynamics, you might also enjoy Who Are You.
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pumpkinattack
March 8, 2013 at 11:44 AM
Coffee Prince is my favorite, too. ^^
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Janet
March 8, 2013 at 1:00 PM
Coffee Prince was my first!
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Monch
March 8, 2013 at 5:22 PM
I totally agree with you Coffe Prince ( my first K-Drama ever!) Que Sera Sera great dorama and Who Are You? OMG the lead guy is so cute! But i like him better in Best Love
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Waiting
March 9, 2013 at 1:26 AM
Yup! I just watched ep 1 of Coffee Prince and like it already. So far, YEH is doing a great job as a tomboy/boy. The noodle scene was funny. Thanks to all! :)
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Waiting
March 10, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Update: I am marathoning this as the subbing on my other shows is SO SLOW. BTW, I did noticed that the subbing on DF is really mediocre at best for this drama.
sartorius
March 10, 2013 at 4:03 PM
u needs to switch to VIKI asap! haha...plus they have viewer comments which makes watching the shows multiple times more awesome!
CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 11:15 AM
The Chaser
Syndrome
Faith
Arang and the Magistrate
Flower Boy Ramyun Shop
Iljimae
Return of Iljimae
Flower Boy Next Door
City Hunter
History of a Salary Man
Devil
In Time
Ma Boy
Ordinary Love
I love Lee Tae Ri
Sign
DB also says Conspiracy in the court is good but i haven't seen that yet.
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 2:44 PM
Hi Waiting!!I've been watching about 10 months now, so I think I'm still relatively new but it feels like I've been an Kaddict forever.
I watched the BigBang episodes of RunningMan. LOVED it. Planning on watching more RM.
Yes, DayDreamer is so right..watch Arang. one of my favoites. Also loved My Girlfriend is a Gumiho, LSG is adorkable in it, but it leans towards the silly. QueSeraSera and Joseon X files are also my favorites but those seem to be less popular.
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sartorius
March 10, 2013 at 4:09 PM
m sorry, how did I miss this post....gotsa help a beanie out! m just gonna copy n paste all the kdramas that i have watched n narrow the list down for u....
most definitely agree that u should watch coffee prince cause that show is the shiz! it was my 2nd kdrama but its my fave one and nothing i have watched so far has ever managed to knock it down my list.
Best Love/the Greatest Love
My Lovely Sam-Soon
City Hunter
Protect the Boss
History of a Salaryman - died n went to heaven laughing
Once upon a time in Saeng chori - also died n went to heaven laughing
My Girlfriend is a Gumiho - love Shin Mina for eva!
Secret Garden - u falls so much in love with Hyun Bin n Ha Ji Won
The woman who still wants to marry - such an amazing show...just gave me feels in every episode!
Answer me 1997 - so much feels in every episode...
so much more but then i would take up so much space...hahahaha. ENJOY!!!!!
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24 pandaren
March 8, 2013 at 7:51 AM
happy OT to all agashis.(yay ! I can speak(bit of) Korean :) )
while I'm still on first episode of TWTWB and FBND I think I ll catch up this weekend !!
Also did you all feel this week was shorter?? (heh)
uhuhuhuhuh my university semester results.. damn worried about them :(
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 8:01 AM
When will you find out the results?
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pandaren
March 8, 2013 at 8:06 AM
results will be out next week ..
like some explosive blasts!
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25 Molly
March 8, 2013 at 7:54 AM
hello boys and girls! Happy OT day!!
I had the most amazing dream. It was like i was stuck in a love quadrant with every awesome bromance pair any Korean drama has ever churned out. It was.... For want of a better word.... Nice. Real nice. *sleazeyness alert*.
I have a confession to make. I haven't finished a drama. Since at least a year ago. I find myself feeling bored near the endow a drama. I feel slightly let down. I mean is ittto o much to ask for another flower boy ramyun shop or city hunter or delightful girl or even (minus the last 5 episodes) Sungkyunkwan?
In other news I am excited about Jang Ok Jung. Super excited.
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 8:04 AM
Oh my goh!!! Envying your dream!!!! Haven't had a good foursome with a dream-hottie ever! And the last time i dreamed of an actor it was Ben Cross. Sweet dream -- and sweet guy-- but not particularly passionate. So yeah...mucho dream-envy going on in these parts.
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Molly
March 8, 2013 at 10:48 AM
It was fantabulous! *Sends you dream with a gap so you can fill your self in. *
Hope you enjoy it!!
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oftheshore
March 8, 2013 at 11:01 AM
I have the same problem - not with all the dramas I watch, but with...let's just say, quite a few. I think that my interest wanes as the main conflict gets resolved. Writers tend to run out of ideas by episode 12-14, and it usually shows. :(
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26 owl
March 8, 2013 at 8:02 AM
Hi, hi! I always look forward to Friday OT with the beaners!
The Virus –I count 3 legit Flower Boys so far ~ Lee Ki-Woo – [Pillar♥, FBRS; Park Min-Woo, also FBRS, and Hyun Woo♥.
Thinking The Virus should be renamed FBBSOE (Flower Boy Blood Shooting Out Eyes). After watching 10 seconds I chucked my tuna fish sammy in the sink. N5R1 bird flu pandemic – fowl play?
IRIS 2 - It finally dawned on me who Jang Hyuk (who I love in IRIS 2 and Midas) reminds me of – Ben Affleck. But, Ben Affleck is not on my hot list. Puzzling.
Rey – evil incarnate. What have you done to Yoo Gun?
L7CS – Saved by the drawings in the recaps (if you haven’t seen them, check it out – perfectly hilarious!) ziggystardust’s final stick figure montage sums up the whole drama. It may be the start of L7CS anime! Keep up the good fight, db team. What a debacle. You are awesome! As for L7CS, it was a pity how most of the actors (male and female) in this kdrama were dumbed down.
TWTWTB – sis/bromance bedroom scenes. AGAIN. That kiss-miss-kiss as he tucked her in bed (I know he knows he’s not her brother, but whoa. Just whoa.) not looking (wince). looking. not looking (wince). looking… and his head conversation about crossing the line…so conflicted~
Survival Audition Kpop Star 2 (eng sub)– marathoned eps 1-8 pulling an all nighter. The talent blows my mind ~ Bang de yen, l’il bro, amazing! Check out this radical audition of Thriller by Raccoon Boys (ignore the bad name, no possible explanation for that). http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wstqn7g_w1E Chiller!
Jdrama fun~
Share House – yay! 3 more episodes translated this week. Completely whacky/funny/odd. My dream art studio is the tree house in the sky, so funky~
Saikou no Rikon – Ryo, I gave you the benefit of the doubt. So did Akari. You didn’t deserve it, but you are who you are. Dang, I would have fallen for you too. That’s the problem.
“Wah! you’re so obedient. Maybe our marriage would have worked out if your ribs were broken the whole time.” (ep 5)
Nobunaga no Chef – Ken, I would love you as my BFF. Between Natsu, Youko, and Kaede – I choose dark horse Kaede (female ninja rocks it every time- hyah!!) Must be a part 2 ep 8 for the ending?
xxxHolic ep 2 - “An accident? Is there an accident in this world?” Dark, forbidden.
Off to watch (Raccoon Boys) Thriller for the umpteenth time (eeeee~smile~)
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CaroleMcDonnell
March 8, 2013 at 8:08 AM
Yes, yes,yes... some of the victims (and infectors) in Virus are sooooooooo gorgeous. Love travelling around disease-spreading hottie. And yes, Ken!!! Oh my gosh!!! Ken. I love my hubby but wow, if I could just have Ken for my very very very own...in whatever era.
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owl
March 8, 2013 at 8:32 AM
Ken is more like a time travel kindred spirit bestest bud for me. I love the strategy maps in the show.
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pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deck🍉
March 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM
Owl - I am so glad xxxHolic is good, though I wonder how they're going to use the teeny-tiny number of episodes to cover an entire arc of the manga (because surely they can't do the whole manga, especially not the Tsubasa crossover parts...)
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alua
March 8, 2013 at 9:27 AM
I don't think they are even going to try cover the entire arc of the manga... I think they are just going to be episodical, without telling the greater story that emerges from the whole manga.
They might be purposefully open-ended so that if the 8 episodes are successful, they can just extend and do more seasons.
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hydrangeabloom
March 8, 2013 at 10:24 AM
I haven't seen episode two yet, but I kinda suspect that they might re-write a smaller arc for the drama, because Kimihiro's mother appears in a flashback in episode one, but, ah...that's a bit different than what happens in the manga.
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 8:27 AM
LOL
I love the ninja girl in No chef. She likes Ken too. He treats her kindly. ^^
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Mama J
March 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM
CV is No Chef the one that goes back in time?
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 2:14 PM
Yes it is. One more ep to go. How it's going to end? I have no idea. But I'll be watching til the end tho. Hehe
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 9:05 AM
Hey Owl! Now I have to watch Virus. Flower Boys Blood Shooting Out Eyes!!!! can't think of a better way to get me to watch. :D
Is xxxholics the japn. anime? or is this a korean remake?
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 9:48 AM
xxxholics is the real version of the anime.....
after watching first ep, I still think the anime is better. (in my opinion) haha but we'll see how goes ep 2. :p
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 3:08 PM
I haven't had much experience with anime except for Death Note. Brilliant but I never finished it maybe cause I'm just not into anime but I'll give the the anime version of xxxholics a try. thanks cv:D
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owl
March 8, 2013 at 5:31 PM
Pillowhead, I am new to japanese anime, and I really enjoyed Ouran High School Host Club anime. Also there are a couple of older anime movies, Princess Mononoke and Spirited Away, which you might like. I am watching xxxoholic as a jdrama without having previously read the manga. So, I don't have a comparison to make and so far, I like the jdrama version (it's eng subbed on dramacrazy.net)
CaroleMcDonnell
March 10, 2013 at 5:34 AM
If you want a really good anime, try "Natsuyuki Rendezvous" --a great haunting love story. But, if you like high school horror, try "Another." If you like just plain silly, try "Sket Dance"...although Sket Dance has a lot of wink-wink nudge-nudge visual references to other anime, it's definitely a tour de force of anime parody.
owl
March 8, 2013 at 12:35 PM
FBBSOE - literally, pillowhead.
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 2:18 PM
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27 Ace
March 8, 2013 at 8:09 AM
I love, love, love Dad, Where Are You Going! But sad at the moment because halfway through episode 2, the videos were not loading properly. Sucks. Now I have to wait for an optimum time to download before I can finish watching. But I love the little guy Hoo since he's so mature for his age (offered to live in the worst of the houses so that the hyung won't cry) and sweet (ah, the crush with the little girl is so cute!).
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Nakai
March 8, 2013 at 8:56 AM
I'm always changing favorite. But right now, I love Junsu. ^^
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:25 AM
For me it's stuck at Hoo. But Joon is a close second.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:34 AM
Btw, Sung Dong-il as the mischief-making ajusshi there: too funny.
He is such a wit.
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NKB
March 8, 2013 at 2:13 PM
Omo Hoo's love for Ji Ah knows no bounds! The kids they chose are awesome. I love that each kid has a different dynamic with their dad. Ji ah has the adoring father who just pampers and gives into his kid. Hoo and his dad are basically best buds. Lee Jong Hyuk (A Gentleman's dignity guy) is that dad who is the same age as his kid. Joon reminds me of a little Sung Shi Kyung for some reason, I think it's the hairdo. I'm glad he's loosening up with his dad because I was quite worried in the beginning about how quiet he was. And the eldest kid (I forget his name), the 9 year old is a sweet kid but a bit of a cry baby. I can tell his father worries he cries too easily.
Another thing that cracks me up is how Joon and Lee Jong Hyuk's kid are always paired together but they don't have anything to talk about.
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Belle3005
March 8, 2013 at 6:52 PM
HEH the kids are adorable. Lee Jong Hyuk acts more like a son than a dad it cracks me up. XD I LOVE HOO. He's really mature for his age! This show is like 2D1N ala kids and dads edition. LOVE.
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Carmensitta
March 9, 2013 at 4:43 AM
I love, love, love Dad, where are we going !!! (That comes up so naturally haha) I don't have a favourite kid since they are all adorable and it's like asking a mom whom she prefers the most of her kids. I'm sad that the subs are soooo slooooow,but happy that @ShiaReagy took the project.
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28 shel
March 8, 2013 at 8:19 AM
Hello, beanuts,
Just a drive-by posting, as I am leaving town in a couple of hours and am still sitting in my jammies, lol.
Finished FBND, loved the fluff. It kind of went wonky near the end, but I have to say I enjoyed it regardless. Now I'm attempting to catch up on QOA because of JoAnne and KLNoona's ravings about it. Love it so far, only up to eo 14, so still a couple more before I"m up to date. I dropped L7CS due to lack of time...so little time, no time to waste on dumb stuff and it was getting dumber and dumber. Trying to catch up on IOM, only on ep 8, but like it so far, KJH is hilarious.
That's about it. Proud of the beanut gallery for inundating evil DF with emails, and glad that they saw the error of their ways, at least this time. I wouldn't count on it not happening again, though, which is sad.
@RickyHRH said he wouldn't be on OT today because he's studying for a midterm tomorrow, but waves "hi" at everybody. Maybe he'll have time to be back next week. He's a hardworking student, though, so who knows....
Ya'll have a great weekend, I'm off with my BFF's and our daughters to a women/teen girl conference for the weekend.
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 8:30 AM
Hi Shel! hehe Have fun!
*waves* to @RickyHRH. Good luck Oppa! Fighting!
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29 snow_white
March 8, 2013 at 8:23 AM
hi everyone :)
I'm watching Secret Investigation Record...completed only ep 1
planning to watch Incarnation Of Money, or continuing rather as I already watched 4 episodes, but got super busy after that....and I have an important interview coming up next week.....after that, I will start my drama marathon from next week :)
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Kiara
March 8, 2013 at 8:33 AM
Keep watching Joseon X-files you wont be sorry. Loved that show and Kim Ji Hoon. Dont forget to read the recaps too.
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snow_white
March 8, 2013 at 9:41 AM
thanks ..... reading Dramabeans recaps after watching each episode is so much fun!!
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Pillowhead
March 8, 2013 at 3:14 PM
hey SW! I loved Joseon XFiles. I agree, the recaps make watching more fun and you will absolutely be needing them with this drama!!! :D
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snow_white
March 8, 2013 at 7:22 PM
I did....as I wasn't able to understand certain things....which became clear after reading Javabean's recap :)
sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:53 AM
I downloaded it and have been putting JXF for like what, a year?? After FBND it is back on my radar again. Hmm looks like I should go watch it for Kim Ji Hoon!!
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30 pandaren
March 8, 2013 at 8:43 AM
I think you're right ..
you need to be in the mood else u wont get carriedaway on it ! but you should watch TWTWB.. (hehee u know I like melos :))
I just completed the first episode and found it very new as a story !
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31 john
March 8, 2013 at 8:48 AM
Friday!
Busy at work.
Watching K Dramas:
Winter Wind, Ad Genius, IOM , ( couple of eps behind on Ad Genius)
J dramas: No Chef, Saikou no Rikon (so good), xxxHolic, behind on Share House.
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Owl
March 8, 2013 at 9:27 AM
john, Right now saikou no rikon is my #1 drama. Share house is a close second. The dialog in SNR is powerful.
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john
March 8, 2013 at 10:40 AM
Owl ~
I was surprised at how good Saiko No Rikon is.
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 9:51 AM
Hi John!
I'll have to check out saikou... read the synopsis and didn't care for the storyline but will give it a chance. lol
I like share house too. Different, characters have layers.
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john
March 8, 2013 at 10:11 AM
cv ~
The story is better than the synopsis. Much more depth than your typical drama.
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM
John, good to hear. As long as it's not boring. hehe I will definitely check it out this weekend.
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hydrangeabloom
March 8, 2013 at 10:33 AM
What do you think of xxxHolic so far? I feel like I am still withholding my opinion one episode in, but I have SUCH an attachment to the manga.
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Swurbel
March 8, 2013 at 11:47 AM
hi hydrangeabloom! If you like, you can read my current thoughts about xxxHolic in 12.2
(..but I have no attachment to the manga...)
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john
March 8, 2013 at 12:37 PM
hydrangeabloom ~
I've read most of the manga, haven't seen the anime.
1) I wish the episodes were longer
2) I had hoped the ladies were prettier. Shame on me for being shallow. :(
Yuko is okay but Himawari is a disappointment.
The story is ok I just curious how and where they plan on going since the amount of screen time is so short .
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hydrangeabloom
March 8, 2013 at 7:06 PM
I agree about the episodes. Twenty three minutes (or twenty six minutes or whatever) feels too short for the narrative. I wanted them to cast Yuuko a bit older than they did. Himawari's hair really bothers me - I get that the pigtails are a mainstay of her character, but the way they did her bangs is really unflattering on that actress.
Also, from the sounds of things, they've done away with the comedy, which is too bad.
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32 Nakai
March 8, 2013 at 8:54 AM
Nice song.
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33 Julia
March 8, 2013 at 8:58 AM
DramaBeans opened my eyes to shower scenes. Mr. hand Towel's posting had me ROFL. Huzzah to chocolate abs. Kakashi's shower scene posts made me smile.
But I got to thinking ... my focus has been on men getting soapy, but shouldn't women getting clean also be a list somewhere? Are there less scenes of women in the shower than men in Dramas?
These are a few of the female bathing scenes I could remember
Painter on the Wind: communual bathing at the river
Sungkyunkwan Scandal: Peeking at Kim Yoon Hee in the bathhouse
Love Rain: Hot Springs bathing surrounded by snow
When It's At Night: Art investigator at the Japanese spa
Fireworks: Falling into someone else's bathwater counts, right? Esp. if you steal their towel.
Tamra, The Island: JeJuDo diver Beo Jin needs an honorable mention for swimming
Hana Kimi: If you are pretending to be a boy, you should lock the shower door
Prosecutor Princess: Share a room with a stranger, don't fall asleep in the bath
Game Rai Game Rak: Nang Fah joining the boys at the swimming hole innocently
Hmm. I noticed that the ones I remember have more than one person.
Nang Fah is my favorite for her blissful joy "I'll shower with you. Why can't a man and woman shower together?" My sentiments exactly. ha ha ha
What are your favorite women in water scenes?
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:56 AM
I don't remember any showering scene in Prosecutor Princess?!
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Julia
March 8, 2013 at 9:59 AM
When they share a hotel room, she takes a bath then falls asleep and PSH has to rescue her, if I remember correctly.
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 10:04 AM
The first scene that come to mind my is in SKKS, it's not exactly a shower scene though, when PMY fell into the water and Mickey rescued her.
The setting was so lush and beautiful... the colours... And of course then he found out he was really a she.
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Julia
March 8, 2013 at 10:28 AM
I think baths are more popular than shower scenes when it is a woman, just because women have bits up top that can't be shown,
Which reminds me of the story about Lwaxana Troi's mud bath filming on Star Trek where as the day went on the mud levels got lower and caused a whoopsie.
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latteholic
March 8, 2013 at 11:09 AM
I rewatched Tamra The Island a couple of days ago, and I have to say that I loved most of the underwater scenes there, especially the one in the last episode, where all of the women divers work together to sink the ship. It's so beautiful, how the women divers did their parts to protect their island and also how the exact scene was shot, them diving into the sea with fireflies lamps in the night was stunning
The bath scene in SSK really cracked me up, seeing Moonie's expression and him hiccuping was just priceless!
And the shower scene in Hana Kimi also had me rofl-ed esp when Nakatsu had nosebleed because of that.. :D
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34 KimYoonmi
March 8, 2013 at 9:00 AM
I have a hypothetical for you...
Say, you were in one of those makjang accidents where a certain part of your memory was erased. In this case it was Asian dramas. You were told that in order to make a full recovery, you needed to jog your memory with the best dramas ever while you were bed ridden recovering from the other injuries. (Which is not instant! cancer or instant! blindness)
Which ones would you seriously choose for that hypothetical self? And which ones would you absolutely say that it would hurt your recovery?
I was considering this because there are some dramas I would watch while in bed... that I wouldn't normally like.
And you know I've watched a lot of dramas to come up with an overblown scenario like this.
For me:
Watch list
It Started with a Kiss and They Kiss Again. (Watch it for the gazillionth time, just give me the remote for the rain kiss scene so I can do it on auto play.)
Greatest Love
Near the end of my recovery, though, 'cause it's likely I'll be jumping about and cringing and crying over the potato.
Hotaru no Hikari
What I wouldn't give to be able to see it with utterly fresh eyes and have a marathon with it. (whole series)
Nodame Cantabile>
Chiaki-sama~
Trick (all)
Definitely would love to see it with fresh eyes.
Liar Game (Maybe not the second movie)
Near the end of the recovery. Makes you think and question a lot. Easily able to marathon it.
Hana Yori Dango
Full Series. And yes, the Japanese version. And keep that anime version away from me. This is perfect for drama recovery.
Reply 1997
OMG, drama crack. I just hope the subs are not from Dramafever and that Yoon Yoon Je's name is spelled correctly.
I'm on the fence about Goong and My Princess... I liked them, but I'm not sure I'd want to marathon them while immobile. I have others in this flavor too... where I really like them, but I don't know if I would like to marathon them, especially laying down.
Avoid list
I'm Sorry I Love You
I regret watching it at all. Mostly for the adoption issues and the overblown ending.
Prince's First Love
Scarred me for life as my first K-drama. I was lucky I recovered from the utter shock and came back. Sung Yuri was in it, which marred her reputation for being able to act such that the Hong Sisters thought they had to defend her for Hong Gil Dong. It did so poorly in Korea the max was 3%? I think? You can invent drinking games around it. One of the worst dramas ever. (was up on a bit torrent website for dramas, which I am not mentioning, since dramafever devils are watching) and was put in a poll for
seeding, and it failed for over three months to get enough support to get seeded. When people actually did watch it, the majority reported regretting it, just like the other commenters said they would.
Yeah, keep that drama away from me.
You? If you could clean your slate of dramas, which would you tell yourself to recover with?
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alua
March 8, 2013 at 9:16 AM
Nodame Cantabile
Love Shuffle
Hana Kimi
Kimi wa Petto
Basically all the whacko ones that crack me up hundred miles an hour... Of course, if I had amnesia, I might run screaming from them, because, let's just say the first time I watched Nodame I did not get beyond episode one.
Later on (near the end of recovery) I think I would go for some bromance, you know, SUFFB and School 2013.
What I wouldn't watch... A Thousand Kisses and any others involving love triangles with exes or wannabe girlfriends as love rivals. And nothing melo (I don't watch that anyhow - only melo films).
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alua
March 8, 2013 at 10:12 AM
"there are some dramas I would watch while in bed…"
I watch all dramas while in bed. But that's because I'm in a shared house and my room's my place, and my bed is where I sit and do everything. (I do have desk but there are things piling up high and I haven't actually got a chair.)
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Julia
March 8, 2013 at 9:54 AM
Mary Stayed Out All Night
It Started With A Kiss
Goong
Chuno
Coffee Prince
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Kim Yoomni, for me it would forever be It Started With a Kiss and They Kiss Again because I watched that a gazillion times and never, ever, ever, ever got bored of it. All the damn scenes with Ariel and Joe together are enough for me to go squeeing eternally. So if I had amnesia, I would most certainly watch that series again and then for another million times. Then hope for another amnesia, LOL.
P.S. I'm so glad to know someone here who also adores this series as much as I do.
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KimYoonmi
March 8, 2013 at 11:41 AM
I love Winnie's dramas, but there is something about It Started with a Kiss and TKA that lends itself to this kind of watching more than his other dramas.
I mean, In Time with You I liked, but it's more like a lesson in art, direction and literature. And The Rose is excellent, but it's something I need a break to savor. (I stayed up late watching it the first time...)
I loosely belong to a group that helped sub TKA and ISWAK. But still, I've had to stop myself from marathoning it yet again a few times. (I bought the ISWAK box set raw, I loved it so much)
I realized a lot of my favorite dramas simply don't hold up to the bedridden situation. And some dramas I wish I could really purge my memory so I can enjoy it again instantly. Haha, brain injury to watch a drama. Anyway, yup, ISWAK and TKA definitely tops my list.
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DayDreamer
March 8, 2013 at 1:55 PM
Definitely agree with you...I also have a lot of dramas that I liked but none of them I would be willing to marathon again and again like I would for ISWAK and TKA. God bless Winnie....he made me live in the world he created in that series for like three years. It was super hard to break away from it since the first time I watched it. And when Playful Kiss came along, I was super duper happy that it didn't turn out better because no matter what, the Tdrama version would always be the best one for me.
And OMG, you were part of the subbing team? I FREAKING LOVE YOU. Seriously, I've always been so grateful to the subbers for doing a wonderful job with the series. Countless times I've blessed them over the years for letting me marathon the show over and over again. So I'm glad I met you....it gave me the chance to personally thank you. :)
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KimYoonmi
March 8, 2013 at 5:04 PM
I am associated with, as I run as a mod of the group, but I didn't help with the actual subbing on that one. =P The group leader is constantly trying to recruit me to do other minor bits though. I also support them by giving them their Asian drama lists since I'm fairly good at matching dramas to the people.
Mar
March 8, 2013 at 11:03 AM
My Watch List for this situation would certainly include my favorites, but being as I was bedridden, it might exclude some of my favorites that I might not be in the mood for if ill.
Watch List:
Reply 1997
Flower Boy Raymun Shop
The Woman that Still Wants to Marry
Secret Garden
Kim Sam Soon
Pasta
Faith-I know that I bitched about it enough, but it's damn visually pretty and the message is good, so I'd put it on this list.
I would also need to add music videos to this list, I'll keep the list minimal for times sake here lol-
TVXQ Mirotic
Rain doing Hip Song. I have about 3 performance of it I like. Here is one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhEkT3JObTA
Avoid List:
Anything with Song Seung Hun is generally not for me.
or Park Shi Hoo, not because of his recent legal issues, but because I have not cared for his dramas either, or, well, him.
Heavy melos and makjangs
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Julia
March 8, 2013 at 7:13 PM
Thank you for introducing me to Hip Song.
Tell me, of all the great KPop out there, why did the world fall in love with PSY's horsey dance instead of Rain doing that hip movement or G.NA with her sexy legs?
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Mar
March 8, 2013 at 8:13 PM
@Julia -I feel like I should apologize for ruining you for other men lol. The first time I saw a Rain MV I was like WHY didn't I know about this man sooner? I am looking forward to Rain returning to civilian life and taking off his clothes in public and objectifying himself again.
and I know! When G-Style came out, I believe I said the same thing about Rain.
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latteholic
March 8, 2013 at 11:43 AM
[b]My list:[/b]
[b]K-dramas:[/b]
- Gaksital (Lee Kang To as Gaksital will definitely help me recover)
- Tamra The Island (I would also choose Da Jang Geum, but since this one is shorter and lighter but still gives a same dose of heartwarming, I guess this would be better for my recovery period)
- Answer Me 1997 (because I'm the children of 90s and this is wonderfully nostalgic... although I assume in this hypothetical situation, my childhood memories are still intact? But well I'll definitely watch this again)
[b]J-dramas:[/b]
- Nodame Cantabille (same with alua, I found the first episode too bizzare but somehow the comedy just pulled me in and laughter is one of the best medicines, right?)
- Nobuta wo Produce (because I need at least one Yamapi drama to jog my memories, and this one is my fave, although I would also watch Lunch Queen for the delicious food)
- Tokyo Love Story (my first Jdrama, and eventhough the ending left a sour taste in my mouth, I wouldn't mind watching this again and again. Rika Akana is probably one of my fave characters ever in dramaland, I used to want to grow up to be like her -I watched this when I was still in fourth grade, I think :D -)
- Change (because I need KimuTaku to jog my memories as well)
And I think I'll also need to watch at least one wuxia, The Return of Condor Heroes maybe?
[b]Avoid list:[/b]
I have tons of them. Most are dramas that I dropped in the middle.. And definitely no makjangs
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alua
March 8, 2013 at 12:17 PM
Just wanted to say that your monkey latte is just awesome (though I guess technically it's probably a cappuccino?)
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latteholic
March 8, 2013 at 2:59 PM
Aww, thank you, alua! Hmmm.. that's a tough question, esp since I've never tasted it :D I got the picture since long ago when I started collecting latte art pictures. But since latte art is basically pouring steamed milk into espresso to create pattern.. and both cappuccino and latte are espresso-based drinks, I think it could be both? :D
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35 hapacalgirl
March 8, 2013 at 9:03 AM
Happy OT everybody!. I am actually not at work today so I can actually post. I am killing time before I start my oh so very long drive from SD to SLO and hope that the weather stays the way it is right now (sunny) and doesn't rain like planned.
Can't wait tlll my meeting is done so I can catch up on dramas and things. This talk I am giving has occupied my time for the past month.
The PSH case is becoming a circus. So convoluted.
I hope hope hope Kim Jae Wook gets casted in Goddess of Fire with Moon Geun Young. I loved their chemistry and felt it was wasted in MMM and overshadowed by the cuteness of GeunGeun. He speaks fluent japanese so that will help, he actually can act, and he is definitely pleasant on the eyes. Plus its about high time he starts getting main lead status and he needs a post-military drama. If its true that jaejoong is being considered, I hope he gets 2nd lead. He has potential and is relatively decent but should probably stick to secondary roles for awhile longer to build up his skills, I don't think he has the ability to be main lead just yet. But I don't know if he will take up the drama since I know JYJ is thinking about releasing an album later this year, but then again Yoochun the crazy one was shooting Miss Ripley when they released their last album and was touring.... so Jaejoong being just as crazy isn't that far fetched.
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alua
March 8, 2013 at 11:31 AM
Agree on Kim Jae Wook. Jaejoong is okay, but he still doesn't have the range. He would pale next to Moon Geun Young, but with KJW we already know they work (as much as mess Marry Me Mary was scriptwise, the actors were fine).
Generally, if Moon Geun Young takes the drama I hope she gets cast with someone who is on her level. That's my minimal requirement... (is if I had a say in it ;-) ).
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aznative
March 8, 2013 at 5:44 PM
Agreed on Kim Jae-wook, think he'll be discharged in April or May of this year.
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36 sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 9:14 AM
Happy Friday everyone!
I have been a silent reader on this blog for almost 5 years (commented very occasionally). Always hide away with the excuse that I am busy with full-time work and part-time studies to comment, plus I really cannot decide on a handle (boo!). So sorry I am a leecher :( Just read and run.
I have recently relocated to Texas, US (from Asia, due to hubby's job)! Since I am unemployed and have finished my studying, I decided that I have all the time in the world now to join in this FABULOUS community here at Dramabeans!! *fingers cross* I have always followed all the posts here, now I will try get in the spirit of things and try to read and contribute to the comments too.
Enough about me. On to more important things, dramas!
Currently excited about TWTWB! Loving HeadsNo2 recap and comments about the show trying to include the title (ha!).
Following L7CS on recaps only... really cannot sit through stories that don't make sense, hence I long bailed on IRIS (ep6) and Athena (ep9? Stuck in there for as long as I could for Kaedejun - even my love for Cha Seung-won and Kim So Yeon - my female bias, couldn't even make me watch that hot mess). I didn't even start IRIS 2! I am such a good girl, sticking to my mantra of life is too short for bad dramas.
Since I am quite free, really wondering if I should follow Incarnation of Money. A whee Kwang Ji Hwan fan after Hong Gil Dong.
Really excited about You're the Best - Lee Soon-Shin but I have no experience in following a weekend drama at all. Problem is, is it even going to get English sub?
Living is US gets me access to Viki which is really great. It is reliable and gets fan sub fast. You don't know how appreciative I am for Viki. Keep up the great work you multi-linguists out there who loves kdrama :) *cheering you on*
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hydrangeabloom
March 8, 2013 at 10:38 AM
Welcome, sunshower, and good for you for finally coming out of lurker mode! ;) I was a DB reader for a long time before I started commenting, so I completely understand.
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kdramapedia
March 8, 2013 at 11:27 AM
Welcome to the us, sunshower! I have family members in Texas, and it is a lovely place. I try to visit there as often I can.
And welcome to DB. I don't get to comment often because I'm at work during OT, so am not a good member of the community, but enjoy!
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Lizzy4e
March 8, 2013 at 11:42 AM
SunShower~WELCOME TO TEXAS!!!
Also, welcome to OT and de-lurking after all this time.
I guess I should also welcome you to the USA as well.
WELCOME. Hope you moved to one of our big cities so you have access to the things that make you feel like you are home. (comfort foods, or people who speak your native tongue whatever that is)
I am loving TWTWB.
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 8:29 PM
Thank you! I am excited!
Loving TWTWB, can't wait for Wednesday to come round...
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Belle3005
March 8, 2013 at 7:18 PM
AMEN TO YOUR MANTRA " Life is too short for bad dramas."
I don't know why lots of dramas that are getting good reviews from the drama watching community doesn't really do it for me. I am extraordinarily picky with dramas. I tried watching Answer Me 1997(which everyone seems to love,given that this drama has been on so many people's favourite dramas list) but I couldn't even get through the 2nd episode. I couldn't connect to the characters idk why. This drama isn't bad,per se,but it simply wasn't for me. Another drama that I didn't dig was Joseon X Files.it was pretty cool but I couldn't get past 3 episodes of it. (Sigh,I still love you Kim Ji Hoon!) And then there's also Saikou No Rikon which a lot of people loved due to the witty and insight dialogues but I couldn't even get past the 2nd episode.(Seriously what is wrong with me?O.O)
There are some dramas out there that I somehow can feel whether it's a bad one right from the first few minutes of the first episode. Case in hand: IRIS 2,Yawang (Queen of Ambition),Paradise Ranch(OMIGAD WHY DID CHANGMIN EVEN SIGNED UP FOR THIS DRAMA IN THE FIRST PLACE?) And there also some dramas that gave me the "NO DON'T EVER WATCH ME VIBE" right off the bat although I've never watched even an episode of it. There's I Miss You,Fashion King,Dr.Jin,L7CS,Love Rain just to name a few.
Personally I feel that Yawang is just horribly atrocious.I know that there are a lots of people out there who'd probably disagree with me but NO,I dislike this drama to pieces. I did not like everything about it. The storyline,the background music,the characters and the makjangness of it. Not even Kwon Sang Woo can make me love it. I love Yunho as a singer,I really do but his acting simply doesn't cut it. Don't even get me started on Soo Ae's character in the drama. THIS DRAMA IS A MESS. Well apparently it is doing pretty well in the ratings the last I heard. *braces self for arrows from fans of this drama* >.<
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Belle3005
March 8, 2013 at 7:21 PM
*witty and insightful
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37 Kristal
March 8, 2013 at 9:36 AM
I've been a dramafever subscriber since the beginning and while I enjoy that they have a pretty wide variety of shows to offer these days, tbh, their service has many problematic aspects. First of all the subtitles are mediocre and I noticed with the newer series entire sentences of dialogue will be untranslated! In Alice of Cheongdamdong there were important moments that were lost to me because chunks of dialogue were missing. They need to either hire better subbers or take their time posting the subs so they can do some major quality control before uploading. I know people will say that makes the wait too long but I would rather have QUALITY subs and wait then watch crap. It's worth it. But that's just my humble opinion.
Secondly, they have finally at least made their subtitles readable but only in certain formats. I use a roku player to stream from them to my TV and for awhile it was all white subs with not even a black outline so half the time you could barely read it. They have at least wised up in that respect and made the subs yellow which is easier to read but I noticed their itunes app still has the white subs and at times can't be read! So frustrating. I can't speak for the subs on their online site bc I don't use it but it seems to me it should be the same across the board.
Now if only Viki had a channel for my roku player I would probably cancel my DF subscription altogether but I assume they probably couldn't get the rights to do that with DF taking over everything. SIGH.
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RockPaperScissors
March 8, 2013 at 4:08 PM
Yes! (To everything you said).
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38 Viola
March 8, 2013 at 9:46 AM
Hello lovely OT people!
I have been away from dramaland for so long, everything seems strange and unfamiliar. I am going to slowly ease my way back in. I hope everyone has a wonderful Friday! :)
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cmrprindle
March 8, 2013 at 5:58 PM
Viola! Welcome back to the OT! I'm halfway to being awol myself these days.
Happy Weekend to you :)
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Kiara
March 8, 2013 at 6:31 PM
Happy Friday and welcome back :).
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39 Nilechoclat
March 8, 2013 at 9:49 AM
Happy Women's Day :D
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Swurbel
March 8, 2013 at 12:04 PM
Hey! :-) One has thought of it.
Hardly anyone cares about the Womans Day here. :-(
Yes, for Mother's Day, there is the great promotion.
But what about the women who are not mothers? These women are worth nothing???? Maybe they want, but they can not have children. But that is not questioned.
I get so angry when I think about it ...
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redfox
March 8, 2013 at 12:23 PM
in Estonian folk calendar there are 24 days which are womens´ holidays where they do no work, drink wine and visit friends. people have started to forget them and now instead there is this one lousy international womens day. I am dissapointed.
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 1:07 PM
That sucks. And women deserve their 24 holidays!
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cmrprindle
March 8, 2013 at 5:58 PM
That...sounds...AWESOME! There has to be a way to petition to make some of those holidays international.
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40 Gom
March 8, 2013 at 9:53 AM
Hello, people of OT!
I've never posted in an OT before. I don't know why I'm always so nervous about it. For some reason.
I have to agree with the previous comments that the recent psychological meltdown via DF has strengthened the already awesome community here. Hurrah! And for that, I am posting in an OT for the very first time. :)
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Julia
March 8, 2013 at 9:57 AM
Happy Friday to you. What's your favorite drama? What kinds do you like to watch?
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Alex Mottis
March 8, 2013 at 10:23 AM
High five! I think that whole debacle made me realize how much I love this site and that's why I'm commenting in an OT for the first time too
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cmrprindle
March 8, 2013 at 5:52 PM
Welcome to the OT Gom! We always like to hear from new people! I remember being nervous my first [few] times! Soon you get super comfortable and it's almost like coming to your own little town in the middle of the internet. Amazing but true.
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sunshower
March 8, 2013 at 8:34 PM
Welcome Gom :)
I think I probably felt the same urge as you to comment and show support to the community after the debacle with Dramafever.
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41 Suze
March 8, 2013 at 10:01 AM
Javabeans, Girlfriday, when are you going to write something surrounding Park Shi Hoo's and the whole circus lawsuits?. Come on..it would be fun and I want to know your thoughts on the issue. With the whole alphabet character train from A to K to D to P, maybe your write up can become the sequel to Chicka Chicka Boom Boom where all the alphabets climb up the coconut court tree.
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Julia
March 8, 2013 at 10:14 AM
I appreciate that Javabeans and Girlfriday have kept mum on this issue.
Personally, I find that PSH is on my mind every day and the issue has clouded how I watch dramas as the Dramaland and Real Life blur a little. For example, when I watched "101st Proposal" and she had her scandal, it was a little more painful to watch and I was wondering if fans had put up banners for PSH like 101st did.
So knowing that I don't have to face the PSH news at Dramabeans is a relief. Just one opinion.
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kdramapedia
March 8, 2013 at 11:32 AM
Yeah, I hope this site stays out of it. There's plenty of conversation on allkpop if you must follow the action.
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skelly
March 8, 2013 at 12:57 PM
Comments on both sides are so cringeworthy, and the behavior of everyone involved so unprofessional and immature, that I am glad Dramabeans has stayed out of the whole mess. Early on I attempted to weigh in with an analysis of possible outcomes and discourse on lessons that could be taken away from the whole sordid episode, but as it has spiralled further into lawsuits, invective, breathless hearsay, and continued fangirl gushing, I have given the whole thing up as a blot on my life that I can happily ignore.
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amalie
March 8, 2013 at 1:45 PM
If you want to read whole circus lawsuits, you can go to allkpop. I'm glad that Javabeans decide to stay out from this issue.
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Belle3005
March 8, 2013 at 7:24 PM
I think DB should totally stay mum on this. I respect how this site has managed to stay neutral all this while. This whole PSH incident is just too messy for this page.
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42 Alex Mottis
March 8, 2013 at 10:22 AM
Hello everyone, this is my first time in an Open Thread and I'm so excited to be here, especially after the whole Dramafever mess, so I'm here to show my support <3
Unfortunately, because of school, I can't watch any dramas right now, so I'm solely depending on DB's recaps to know what is going on with my favorite series, though I'm having a hard time trying to find information about End of the World, the other drama with a similar story to The Virus.
Oh, and if someone could tell me if Madame Butterfly (?) is a good show I'd appreciate it, I just need a good fake reason to watch Kim Sung Soo. I've been in love with him since Full House
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 10:24 AM
Hi Alex!
Welcome to OT! :)
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aznative
March 8, 2013 at 5:52 PM
Hi Alex Mottis. I don't participate often but read most comments on Fridays. Virus is now up on Hulu, and Madame Butterfly I'm watching on Viki; it is a melodrama but I've mostly enjoyed it and Viki does such an excellent job with subbing. Kim Sung-soo hasn't aged it bit and looks great. If you like him you might try watching the family drama "More Charming by the Day", it's on DramaFever.
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cmrprindle
March 8, 2013 at 5:54 PM
Welcome to the OT, Alex! It's a stinker that DF did what they did to our beloved JB and GF, but it also seems to have made the DB community stronger. Go figure!
I've given up dramas for Lent, but even when I'm free to watch them I often too busy to watch more than 1 or 2 old ones at at time. So, you're not alone :)
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43 kmw3
March 8, 2013 at 10:25 AM
hello beanies! what a week! the dramafever fiasco and my own personal stuff i am ready for the weekend. just getting over my last bout of Plague, this time almost 2 weeks in bed. i was too sick for dramas even short ones (which i didn't think possible but was) but i did get a few movies in: the theives, werewolf boy, suspect x, gwanghee/masquerade, and i am king. the similiarities between those last two movies made me laugh, it might have been the drugs though... i can eat again and oh the persimmons i will be eating! even chocolate hasn't curbed the craving i have for their sweetness.
on another note no antelopes (so far) and my landlord backtracked on charging us for the damaged trees and putting up fencing to protect those trees from further damage. also one of my cats was let outside tuesday because of good weather...without his collar. no news from neighbors, vets, humane society, or animal control. he is a homebody never venturing further than the yard, not even going across the gravel road to tease the cop's dogs like his brother. i fear the worst. especially since ive been sick and havent been able to look after him or his brother in my normal crazycat lady fashion. if he's adopted (or forbid dead) it just won't be the same watching dramas or movies without him curled beside me. sniff.
mystery solved about why so many sites were closing. i'm glad and thankful dramabeans stood their ground while also complying with legalities and doing so with grace and humor. hip hip hurray for dramabeans!! that being said i must quote the big bang theory "got your back jack, bitches be crazy." and dramafever is crazy and looking like a mean bully going after fans and communities like they are, especially those that helped them start and 'let' use subs. the best way to have voices heard is by actually talking/writing and the best way to hurt greed is by not giving it money. this is exactly the correct thing we beanies and dramabeans are doing. dramafever is now begining to feel the wrath...
i know i introduced several people to kdrama through their site and regret it: slow, subpar subs, and now just plain vicious business practices. no more i'll be cutting ties with them. i even convicned some friends to leave with me and we are discussing whether to leave hulu over it too since they are affiliated with dramafever.
congratulations again to dramabeans!!
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44 Mystisith
March 8, 2013 at 10:32 AM
I could rewrite everything about my dramawatching but instead I will spam the OT shamelessly: http://wp.me/p2odKQ-d8
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Swurbel
March 8, 2013 at 11:29 AM
Hello Mystisith! Nice Blog! Like your writing style!
And the polar bear photo. (....Could be me...)
Thanks for the link.
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Mystisith
March 8, 2013 at 12:02 PM
Hehe. Thanks for the visit. ^^
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cv
March 8, 2013 at 5:56 PM
Haha! I liked it. It wasn't too long. ^^
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cmrprindle
March 8, 2013 at 5:56 PM
Mysti! I've missed you!!
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Belle3005
March 8, 2013 at 7:26 PM
It's been ages since your last post! HURRAH! :D Glad to hear from you again. :3 Stay awesome!
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45 Dorotka
March 8, 2013 at 11:16 AM
Hello all,
sorry for not reading all your post, I have too much work, just needed to vent a bit... sorry...
This week just sucks.... I haven't seen a minute of a k-drama, j-drama, t-drama or whatever drama.. or movie... managed to get into a quarrel with my colleague at my volunteer work...still fuming... and then the DMCA hit Dramabeans... Murphy's laws in full gear...
Luckily... I have the Dramabeans' latest podcast on repeat on my mp3 player to keep me sane :--)
Wishing you all nice weekend... and lot of sun!
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kopytko
March 8, 2013 at 1:48 PM
Hi Dorotka!
Have a great weekend! And i hope the weather will be to your liking - looking through my window at all the snow that fell today I can hardly believe it was sunny and +12 degrees yesterday :)
I am behind with dramas, too. And I don't feel the urge to catch up. Maybe the next batch will be more exciting?
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Dorotka
March 8, 2013 at 3:03 PM
Hi kopytko,
thanks. They predict snow on Sunday here... also after a couple of warm sunny days... uhhh... I want the spring!!
As for dramas... I'm a bit sad that I don't have any time to watch now... but as you said, it doesn't feel as a complete tragedy :--) Though tomorrow... the best Jo Jung Seok is starting ;--)
Just finished my work and going to sleep.
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cmrprindle
March 8, 2013 at 5:56 PM
Happy Weekend, Dorotka. I hope next week is better. It's been a rough couple of weeks for me, too. Maybe I should have had the last podcast on repeat myself!
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Dorotka
March 10, 2013 at 1:47 PM
Oh, sorry to hear that... for me it's been more than 1 week as well... big hug for you -- And better days sure will come!
I finally took some time off this afternoon... and instead being with my family (horrible me)... I fell into the black hole called Nodame Cantabile... some time ago I couldn't even finish the 1st episode... now I can't stop watching :--) Love the music... and Tamaki Hiroshi is soooo smexy... ;--)
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cmrprindle's phone
March 12, 2013 at 3:19 PM
Dramas have gotten me through some of the craziest, most stressful work weeks of my life. Protect The Boss will always hold a special place in my heart for that very reason. It was just what I needed at the time
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46 blokkoms
March 8, 2013 at 11:19 AM
Happy Friday everyone!
First of all, congrats to the entire Dramabeans nation for triumphing over the evil forces of Dramafever! As always, thanks to javabeans and girlfriday for being awesome - fighting!
Anyways, I'm worried that this post might get buried because I have a few questions to ask about torrenting. I'm going back to China for three weeks, and will have very little access to internet. Naturally my addiction won't let me stop indulging in dramas, but up till now I've always been streaming my dramas (dramacrazy, epdrama, mysoju RIP, etc.)... So for the first-time torrenter, have you got any tips? Download sites for both dramas and subs would be much appreciated, as would any how-to guides.
Thanks!
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Jeannette
March 8, 2013 at 12:43 PM
Click on my name to go to my FB page and message me and I will send you a link to where I get my stuff from. :)
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Belle3005
March 8, 2013 at 7:29 PM
Here you go! It's not my blog but rather some page that I've stumbled upon randomly online. Hope that it was useful to you. :D HAPPY WATCHING!
http://la-romanesca.tumblr.com/dramadls
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47 Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 11:36 AM
Crikey, catching up on dramas is like homework! I've started keeping a list of What To Watch because otherwise I'll get super confused and not, yunno, do any work or shower or anything.
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alua
March 8, 2013 at 12:15 PM
I keep on thinking to make a list like that... particularly to remember some of the older dramas that I missed because I wasn't watching dramas yet. I come across something that looks interesting or that everyone has said is amazing, forget to put it one some sort of central list and stumble across the drama months later, only to marathon it and shake my head over not having watched it ages ago already.
Pride, Love Shuffle, Nagareboshi all were like that for me.
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skelly
March 8, 2013 at 12:52 PM
Hm. If something is in the same sentence with Pride and Love Shuffle, then I think I need to add it to MY "To Be Watched" list...
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alua
March 9, 2013 at 10:43 AM
I don't think it's as high profile as Pride or Love Shuffle, but it's a lovely drama (more Pride than Love Shuffle) that tackles serious questions but heartwarming. There is a love story, but it's sort of muted, the main thing is the family love, which however is what paves the way for love love eventually... :-)
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Tulipsaki
March 8, 2013 at 1:00 PM
It really helps. Otherwise I feel overwhelmed. Plus, I really felt like I needed to limit myself.
Thing is, no one drama has been holding my attention consistently since KOD and School. I had high hopes for TWTWB, but got bored surprisingly fast.
Right now, I'm digging Hundred Years, Ad Genius, and Incarnation of Money (just when I was about to drop all three completely too!) so let's see how long that lasts. :-)
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cmrprindle
March 8, 2013 at 5:25 PM
*nodnod* I have a list in my delicious account of "to-watch". I'm so slow that someday people are going to find me buried under my list :)
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sartorius
March 8, 2013 at 6:12 PM
one of the very first things i did when i first started watching kdramas is to make a to-watch list....i knew this was an addiction that was going to last and i needed to be able to keep track of what to watch...
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cmrprindle
March 8, 2013 at 6:50 PM
I don't think too many of us have that kind of forethought--or realize how serious k-dramas are until we're bringing under eye-luggage to work instead of the usual under eye-bags.
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48 sartorius
March 8, 2013 at 11:45 AM
Hey everyone....
lately Kdramas have been lackluster to say the least...from Level 7 to the Monday night shows......but i haven't started watching TWTWB n i have heard positive things about that...Here's hoping to better dramas in the future.
started IRIS II....started off really slow but its slowly getting better...i find that m more interested in Baek San's story and find myself hoping for a happy ending for him.......lulz...i don't think i was expecting that... m still on episode 6, but that twist is CRAY!!!!! no spoilers for those who r currently watching n not up to that episode n for those who want to watch it later....the romance is meh for me.....i accept it as part of the story...doesn't get me hot n bothered which i did not expect....that is what i liked about IRIS....
looking forward like a mad person to Special Affairs Team Ten season 2 which is coming out in April....colored me EXCITED!!!!!
oh n dear DF, i never liked u before for all d bull u pulled in the past, but i was fine cause i have Viki and HuluPlus (even thou u guys have an agreement, but it means i don't need to go on ur site), but the shit u pulled this week plus d ~exclusive~ rights shit on IRIS II that u guys pulled and all the things i have been learning about what u guys have been doing, IM F***ing pissed at u n i will forever boycott ur site as long as i watch Kdramas.
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owl
March 8, 2013 at 12:45 PM
Hi, OMG - did you watch the IRIS 2 special? I liked the back-and-forth of it all. Kind of a weird setting in a sauna...
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sartorius
March 8, 2013 at 3:00 PM
no i didn't, i didn't even know there was an IRIS 2 special...was it good?
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owl
March 8, 2013 at 5:33 PM
Just the cast interview, but i enjoyed it. You can find it on dramacrazy.net
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49 DB
March 8, 2013 at 1:40 PM
Hi. Regular visitor to DB. Rarely comment though. Just wanted to show my support for DB. Keep up the excellent work.
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50 Jeannette
March 8, 2013 at 1:46 PM
I just got four of my five SHINee Dream Girl CDs in the mail. I'm dying. I got three Onew photocards haha! <3
I just started 9E2O and I LOVE IT! I was told by a little birdie that one of the mains looks kinda like Onew, so I had to watch it lol.
I've been focused too much on SHINee promotions that I've been slacking in dramas. Sorry. :(
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Enz
March 9, 2013 at 1:45 AM
Chirp chirp :)
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Jeannette
March 9, 2013 at 8:18 AM
<3 lol.
LA LA LA
I love SHINee lol
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