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Happy Friday, Chingus!
I'm sick of this gray weather here, gah ... and the PSH case is still upsetting me a great deal; how can you trust in a legal system in which (potential) evidence is public knowledge before the accused has even been questioned!?
It is so ugly!!! And I have stopped reading netizen comments a long while ago ... that just made me sick.
*sigh*
not sure what to pick up after FBND ... I have dropped L7CS after 10 episodes (and regret the waste of time), am watching IRIS2 (which, I fear, is losing its footing already after 5 episodes), and am considering TWTWB. I don't really like melos, though. Oh, an I am planning to watch OCN's The Virus, which starts today. Just hoping for (fast) subs.

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I'm with you. It makes me sick on both sides. We don't have all of the info, but PSH can do no wrong and she's just a gold digging [insert not so nice word]. Regardless of what went on, it's a life changing situation for both of them.

Either way I hope it's over soon and they can both go on with their lives. Just so upsetting.

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This whole PSH scandal is just really depressing. I hope the police can do their job fast and effectively, that'd be for the best now.

If none of the currently airing dramas appeal, go for an oldie. I'm now slowly working my way through Giant (so much good acting!). You can pick the really good oldies to watch so you don't waste time =)

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yes, Giant ... it is on my (very long) list of oldies ... I hear good things about it! and you are right, I might go for an oldie in the end.

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TWTWB is really good, and so far it's my favorite airing drama even though I'm also not big on melos. Maybe check out an episode or two and see what you think?

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Giant is one of my favorites, enjoy!

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Mine too. Very powerful and different drama. I loved the fact that Korean history was incorporated so well as the setting without taking over the storyline. Good acting too

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My problem with watching oldies is that I end up marathoning them in one night!

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hehe. I cannot do that anymore! Too old? and since I have to go to work every day and have a small kid, punishment for even a little bit of marathoning is swift and brutal

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I have never done more allnighters since doing a PhD (I don't I did any ever before in fact) when structured life went out of the window. (I have no classes. I set all deadlines myself. All the (job) work I do is part-time and/or freelance. No kid or husband to complicate things either.)

None of my all-nighters are related to my studies though. One was of for exam marking (got the deadline wrong and had to finish), twice to read a book in one go (Keri Hulme's The Bone People and Murakami's Norwegian Wood), and the rest (I've lost count) to marathon dramas or read manga.

*grins sheepishly*

I have no idea why people are impressed when you say you are doing a PhD, because they clearly don't know what kind of life we lead...

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But I know, Alua, and I'm still impressed.

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JoAnne, you really shouldn't be. It's all pretend and a tactic to hold off real life a little while longer (you know, when you have to get a 9-5 job and properly get your act together).

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Alua, I can relate. PhD = no structure, especially when you also do part-time jobs or teach.

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Who says a structured life is anything I'd admire?

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just glad I have my PhD already!!!!!!!

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@kakashi --- uhhh, lucky you!

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I did that when I first started watching (oh BOF...). I'd stay up waaay too late, which was saying something, and then watch when I got to work, and at lunch, and any free moment I could squeeze in. I'm marginally better now. (They've blocked all my drama sites ;) )

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Check out 9 End 2 Outs. I usually don't rewatch dramas, but this one is awesomely good.

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Hello friend! :)
Thanks for multiple tabs on my browser...
It's the same here: Bad weather, disappointing dramas except for TWTWB (I almost added the hashtag, lol). Excited for The Virus too!
In the meantime, I will be catching up on my TW dramas: King Flower, The mysteries of Love. Also Dinner, the J dorama.

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yup, I'm once again considering diversification into TW and J Dramas ... I'm not very satisfied with KDrama, recently

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Me neither, though I don't seem to stop watching them.

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J dramas J dramas. Tw dramas I nearly always end up dropping, even if they start out good. They tend be like 20 eps and halfway through loose steam.

I watch more J dramas anyway. Although at the moment I feel there's a general slump, everything I want to see is not being subbed regularly.

Not sure what k-drama to watch next either. Anything premiering soon? (I do have some old ones to watch, half of Arang and all of White Christmas but I know I would just marathon them and I don't have the time for that at the moment...)

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Hi Alua! Nine is starting next week (Time Travel with a crime/mystery to solve, that cute guy from the second I Need Romance) and Virus starts tonight. Too many people to name, for that one. End of the world science heros, though.

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Oh, Nine is one that I was thinking about watching. Good good.

Virus didn't appeal to me really... I might read some recaps and see if I should try it.

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it's true dedication! OT and Twitter and drama watching at the same time :)

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TWTWB is said to have drawn out even viewers who have sworn off melos. I usually don't do melos but this drama is definitely the winner among the three in the same timeslot. The cinematography is really good and it's good enough to keep the viewers wanting for more each and every week. I mean just check out the comments section in the recaps of TWTWB it's definitely exploding with excitement. Hope that you'd consider giving this drama a try. :D

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I plan to! I'm just ... reluctant, as I always am, with melos. But I also watched (and liked) Nice Guy.

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I'm one of those who have sworn off melos (well, have not watched any - not my cup of tea, really) but currently watching TWTWB. Primarily because of Jo In Sung and the chemistry he has with Song Hye Kyo. My gaaaahhhhd!!

It's not really too melodramatic, in my opinion (or maybe I'm just too absorbed by JIS's face). I think it's well written and story is going well, so far. And the previews are really good! Makes me look forward to Wed and Thu every week!!

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kakashi - I'm in much the same space as you, in that I don't have any new dramas to love after FBND ended. Thinking of going back to older dramas for a while now...though I finally watched the ending to A Love To Kill, and it made me want to throw rocks.

re: the Park Shi-hoo case, I just cannot. It's a good thing I never come anywhere but here and sometimes Koala's to get my kdrama fix and avoid netizens like the flu, but some of the nastiness has leaked over to Koala's too (and is rightfully getting yelled at by people who aren't mentally stuck in medieval times)

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Still, while PSH is innocent until proven guilty, let's not blame the victim until we know a) he's not guilty, and b) there wasn't some sort of alcohol-fueled misunderstanding/mistake.

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kakashi -

What can I say about the PSH case? ...... I agree with you ...... so distressing, so disheartening, very upsetting indeed.

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Agree about how upsetting the PSH case is. I don't know what actually happened (only two people do, PSH and the girl) and what to believe on the web, so I'm holding off judgment until we see real hard evidence and because that's what a smart person would do. But there are so many people that already made up their minds based on "evidence" they hear, or twist them to fit their own opinions, or sooo readily believe every rumor that comes out on the web, it's ridiculous. There are those who for sure think the girl is a gold digger (some on allkpop), and there are those are absolutely sure PSH raped her (omona).

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I'm glad Koala stuck firmly to the legal facts. I have no idea what is going on with this case, and I'm just not going to trust anything or anyone, and just see it unfold. My biggest worry is that the events of this case is going to determine how real rape victims are going to be treated--and if things go negatively, then I'm scared for their future. Either A wins and PSH is thrown in the gutter (which basically destroys the reputation of any drama he's been in, not just his own reputation) or the opposite happens and every rape victim in the future will be suspected to be "lying like A," basically sending Korea on a not so great path regarding sexual violence.

Therefore, all of this can only lead to a crappy outcome.

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I've never ventured into melos for fear of tears and pain but TWTWB got me hooked from episode 1. It's been said countless times before but everything is gorgeous. I could watch it with the sound off and just stare. And so far the show has been pretty light on tears (for me at least).

I've always been neutral towards PSH (the only drama I've seen of him is Lee Jun Ki's Iljimae and he was second lead) but the way this whole case has been handled was truly a mess. The involvement of the media is alarming, and it makes it look like a war of media plays rather than a serious investigation to find out the truth.

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I didn't even realize PSH was in Iljimae.... i guess it's b/c lee junki works as my blinker whenever he's on screen, I cant see anything but him, lol.

and about the scandal .... no words...

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Annyeong chingu deul.

When I was in Korea, they still were on old, old computers. Files weren't organized very well. (I went to a few police stations--personal business)

I think people take for granted, the security protection, the well organized government and files.

But Korea isn't like that. Imagine it this way:
You were writing with a brush when you were a kid. When you were a teenager you now wrote with a pencil. By middle age you now have to work with a computer.

At each incarnation of the previous, the organization system also changed. The language changed drastically, and even the spelling of certain words also changed in your lifetime.

Yeah, a pretty good summary of why Korea is a mess... (exaggerated a bit, but it is the basic idea.)

The Korean legal system is still organizing itself. The body is growing faster than the mind.

So the leaks--I suspect that's the younger generation hungry for knowledge (and vindication) taking advantage of the head that hasn't caught up to the body that's industrialized.

I wish people would withhold judgment. It makes it so much uglier when people go after a potential victim. And it makes other people who have gone through such a case more afraid to speak out. Let the police do their work.

And for the few men around: The woman is drunk, falling over on herself. She is in NO shape to give consent. (I wonder if this law is missing in Korea.) If it is a borderline question, don't even try... if she really wants you that much, she'll want you when she is cogent too. (Since there is a second suspect in the case too.)

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Excellent points! Thank you for being a voice of reason in this wilderness.

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thank you for sharing your thoughts. much appreciated

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I don't know if Korea has that law about the woman not being able to consent when drunk, though common sense suggests that she can't. But common sense may not be a factor here.

Anyway, we don't know the full facts and that's that. So, let's not think about it or talk about it until facts are proven as much as possible, and a judgment's made.

And if the court finds that PSH is not guilty, let's not assume the woman was out for money. We weren't there and don't know her understanding from inside her head.

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kakashi, give TWTWB a try; I don't like melos, either (I have watched a grand total of one) but this one reads more like a thriller or caper movie most of the time. Plus, they got the trifecta: a great script, a good ensemble cast and an OTP hitting it out of the park, and great cinematography/direction.

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Watching:

-Finished FBND, which was okay overall and the ending was generally fine. I didn't care too much at that point anymore. Still don't get Dok-mi saying she liked Jin-rak, even if it was overheard accidentally that timing is just weird, and the fact that a person like her would use a lie still doesn't fit with her character. Glad Jin-rak didn't end up with Do-Hwi, I'm not sure Dok-mi 2.0 is a good idea for him either. I get it's narrative device (something to amuse the viewers) but in real life that would be awful. I mean, imagine you were Dok-mi 2.0 and found out one day that you are 'the replacement'.

-Haven't really done any j-drama watching this week except for Sharehouse no Koibito which I just don't know what to make of. It's rather weird. I can't say I'm too fond of the depressed guy, he's being so passive to the point of rudeness and social ineptness. I would not have the patience for me. I don't like the medieval stalker antics of Shio's brother either (though he is the eye candy of the show). Love the intro song video for some reason.
-xxxHOLIC started, I've only watched it raw and need to watch it subbed ASAP (haven't had time). Sometani ♥ is just going to be so wonderful in this. I can't believe the episodes are HALF AN HOUR only, and that there will be only eight.
-Need to catch up on Saikou no Rikon, waiting for subs on several others, and am very tempted with Mahoro Ekimae Bangaichi, which I hear is great, but I feel like I should watch the film (Tada's Do-It-All House) before starting the dorama!

Beyond that, I've mostly been watching films/will be watching films.
-Sa-kwa (Korean, with Moon So-ri) screened last night, I wasn't too impressed. Even if Moon So-ri is a good actress, that film just doesn't add anything to the genre or the world of cinema. Could not relate to the characters at all. :-/

Films coming up:
-Gf*Bf* (TW) next week at the Pan-Asian Film Festival
-Lotte Reiniger's Prince Achmed (the first full-length animation film that was ever made - Himono, I wish you were here to go see it with me because no one else will!!!)
-Week after the London Lesbian Gay Film Festival starts and the BFI is showing a trilogy of Lee Song Hee-il films (White Night; Suddenly Last Summer; Going South), which I've all got tickets for. Plus Facing Mirrors (Iran, on transgender identity) and My Brother the Devil, which is the British "it" film from the indie scene at the moment.

Happy drinking Costa Rican coffee, which a visiting friend brought me (advantages of living in a city with Europe's biggest airport = everyone's bound to pass through at some point :-D).

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alua - re: FBND and Dok-mi II, I definitely think Jin-rak has learned his lesson, as I said downthread - the tone of his voice when he tells PSY 'let me guess' isn't a smitten one, it's the one of a man who's self-aware enough to realise that this is history trying to repeat itself and too smart to bite.

I can't wait for xxxHolic subs to come out, I don't trust my Japanese enough to watch raw (even though I've done it before)

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The subs for xxxHOLIC are out, since yesterday already I think.

Himono is also recapping it. (Well, she did the first episode in any case.)

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I don't really like the replacement love lines either, where there is another potential love interest just like the last at the end of something, but I think if he comes to like her in After-Dramaland that would be nice...I don't believe his character would ever treat anyone jas a replacement but he's observant and he knows a similarity when he sees it, lol. Plus, it's nice when I know the characters I like may find love still ^^

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Yeah, JR is too nice and well-meaning for that but in real life.... I'd run far and faaaaast.

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Lol, OH me too! Meeee too.

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Forgot: If anyone is planning on seeing Park Chan-wook's Stoker, a whole lot of a my London Asian film blogger buddies went for the preview last week and pretty much agreed on that it was gorgeous to look at but very Hollywood otherwise (lacking emotional depth they said).

Pity. :-/

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Ahhh, I may still see it just to create my own opinion. However, that's really so disappointing to hear about one of my favorite directors.

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I haven't seen it myself yet, but that was pretty much the consensus between 6-7 people and several of them adore Park Chan-wook.

I think the rating on Rotten Tomatoes is something around 69% at the moment... which isn't great, but not a total flop either.

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I kinda got the idea that the new Dok-Mi 2 was the one originally meant for him and that she really is the type he imagined: sweet and docile. Without the sharpness of Dok Mi 1.

I thought it was just me who thought the Japanese dramas are a bit offbeat this season. So XXX-holic is good? Might try seeing it.

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xxxHOLIC is good so far.

I have no manga-bias though, since I haven't read it.

Sometani Shota is in it. It can only be good, he's freaking awesome and he's only 20.

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I started watching it. It's really good. I think I've seen the anime before. I think I've seen Shota-san in something else. Can't remember.

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Sometani is anywhere and everywhere. Every time I look at his filmography and remember that he's only 20 I feel like I have done nothing in life.

http://asianwiki.com/Shota_Sometani

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True! Fate and it's silly timing.

And I just found out xxxHoLiC had a drama a day ago. Crazy. I've been a fan of the manga since high school and I watched the anime too. Loved both O: I will have to give it a shot.

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Wow kakashi, you're first! And you lasted more episodes of L7 than I did AND I aAM joo won's fan!! I am watching TWTWB though. A bit of eye rolling here and there but interesting enough and good enough pacing.

Happy OT and weekend everyone.

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Hello enz!!!! yes, first! the greatest achievement of them all :) L7 hasn't helped to turn me into a JW fan, unfortunately. one of these days, I'll master Gaksital!

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Am still in the FBND afterglow. It was just so literate and determined to communicate its sweet little heart! Am seriously enamoured of the writers of that drama!

And yes, I too am awaiting Virus, and End of the World. (Gu Family and Nine as well...but yeah..i know... sajeuk and time travel are not everyone's cup of tea.)

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Carole - me too! I really appreciate FBND for being its own little slice-of-life self, sometimes that's way more rewarding than some of the more conventional conflict setups of dramaland.

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That's the perfect word for it. When k-drama does slice of life, it does it so well and the story feels almost organic. Yet, when you step aside and look at the entirety, there's a feeling of wonderful planning and organization underneath it all.

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I would highly recommend TWTWB even though it's a melodrama. It's definitely one of the better melodramas, and is rather lush and gorgeous. Also - Jo In Sung *swoon* and Song Hye Gyeo is doing the best work I've seen her do.

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kakashi ~

I saw your tribute to FBND's Editor ( Kim Seul-gi ). LOL

Who knew that she can sing?

Now, repeat after me, (softly), Papua New Guinea

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HAPPY FRIDAY EVERYONE!

My spring break starts today so I'm extra excited!

Been watching Fierce Wife lately, so good!

Enjoy the weekend everyone!

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Good morning and happy Friday everyone!!!

What's everyone up to this fine weekend? I'll be enjoying my time with hubby who's home for about 10 days before he heads back out to South Texas for work (Oil and Gas). One of my (four) boys is home sick today, stomach bug. And 2 more weeks til Spring Break. (Yay for sleeping in and watching Dramas til the cows come home..lol).

Can't wait for The Virus to start!!

On a side note, anyone here from Arkansas? I have yet to run into anyone who's even remotely into K-Dramas, not counting the wife of a restaurant owner here in town..lol

Hope everyone has a great weekend!!!

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Hello! Happy Friday!

Just wanted to say that I have been slightly disappointed by this week's episodes of Flower Boys Next Door and 7th Grade Civil Servant. They started off pretty well but somehow somewhere the story kinda lost steam, and my interest :(

Does anyone have any good, recent mini-series (that have already ended; I like marathon-ing episodes because suspense always kills me) to recommend? Any genre is fine. Thank you! :)

PS: I also agree with kakashi's comment about Park Si Hoo. The netizens are insane and so is the press and legal system. Hopefully he really is innocent and his name will be cleared soon!

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I really liked H. I. T. and a ton of other crime dramas. Crime Squad was also really good. Loved Vampire Prosecutor 1 and 2.

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You brought up Vampire Prosecutor and I'm feeling that longing in my heart again for the series. Why isn't VP 3 here yet? *cries*

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first, we'll have Special Affairs Team TEN, Season 2!!! YAY!

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TEN was SOOOOO GOOOOOOD..lol.

Can you tell I really like my crime dramas? ;)

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me too!!!!

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yay another person who liked H.I.T.!! i've watched VP 1 & 2 and loved and it's come to my attention that while I love cop/detective dramas I am not a fan of spy movies even when they are also fighting crime.

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You should give Golden Time a try. Its a medical drama and it's freaking awesome!!!

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Yes. I agree.

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Happy Friday everyone.

Loving AGLTB and TW, TWB. Still watching MLMB and RS.

Not following the story so much in TW, TWB. Just into Jo In-Sung's character...

Bit sad re: ending this week for LTB in AGLTB but know there's good things to come so looking forward to next week's eps.

MLMB has gone off the rails so I'm just catching the tail end of each ep.

RS is still fun though a certain lawyer gets me pissed every time he's on the screen. Looking forward to resolutions for everybody.

Watched WHO RU? last night and really enjoyed it.

Caught an episode of Kang Ho Dong's show and liked it.

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Happy Friday OT friends! I'm sure there will be a lot of talk this week about fauxcest, rape allegations, spies who are incompentant, lawyers who are incompentant, angry fans, both drama and real world. So i will just leave those discussions for later and say that I'm really enjoying Ad Genius and wish it had more of an audiance - this show hasn't disspointed me yet.

I'm also watching Flowers for My Life, and Joseon X-files (sort of keeping my flower boy fix).

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Joseon X-Files was really interesting.. and OMG.. could Kim Ji Hoon be any cuter. *drool*

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LOVE Joseon X-Files. In fact, I might just watch it again. This weekend ^_^

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I need a like button, lol. kim jihoon is awesome.

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Ah! Good idea. I have to rewatch Joseon X-files thus I could continue my routine, ogling over Jihoon... ^^

Thanks for the idea, dearie!

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i AM loving AD GENIUS! it is so so fun and upbeat, glad there is someone else appreciating it as well!

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I am still enjoying Ad Genius very much, too and I'm glad there's an open thread each week to discuss it.

Some thoughts: I don't trust Addie Kang and I'm not sure if the writers are sort of trying to really play that line of him trying to "seduce" Ji-Yoon because he wants the BK work, or if he's falling for her or if he's doing a little bit of both. Does anyone know if this sort of workplace canoodling sorta OK in South Korea, especially where it concerns bosses and their employees?

Does Ji-Yoon like both men? She seems to be sort of attached to both, but Addie Kang said he liked her and she sort of drew back...but Lee Tae Baek asked her if she liked him, considering how she kept showing up around him, but then she avoided it. Maybe she's just sort of indecisive?

Still liking it a lot, though, despite the questions.

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Like AdGenius too. Copy Baek is still young so i understand the confusion -- between a debonair goodlooking boss and a young gritty upstart. She also has it seems an aversion to inherited wealth, so i guess it is a 'no' for Addy Kang at some point. But we will know how she is going to decide. It is just too bad that in dramas, it is events shaping decisions. It is hard to capture thoughts and feelings. But FBND tried to capture thoughts and feelings, that is why it was quite interesting. Some will notice though that it can drag -- hence having lollipops as stars can be quite the glue to hold the audience. Liked the pathos of FBND.
Pretty good right now in dramaland. i find the end of the week busy; good as i have the week-end in case i can't keep up. Can't start on any new dramas though. Lent sacrifice. I look forward to jdrama RMPW2 spring rendition. Aaah, that will be nice for Easter. i hope we get the dates soon.
Happy Weekend everyone! saw already 210 comments when i came in. wheeww, that's quite a gang.

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Good morning, My Wondrous Beans!

How are you? Ya’ll good? That’s good. I’m glad. It didn’t snow this week, so I’m happy.

I finally finished watching Iris. Yeah. The end of the end. I knew what was coming, because hey, I wasn’t born yesterday. KDrama Gods don’t give happy with one hand unless they’re giving pain with the other. But still, that pissed me off. I wanted someone to die, oh yes, but I didn’t want it to be HIM. Still…I think for him it would have been worse if Seung Hee died because G-D, dude…you forgive her for EVERYTHING. And ok yeah I’m a bit pissed off that she wasn’t one thing or the other, just a conflicted human. I mean, nice touch, yeah, I guess, to walk that line…but I wanted her to be evil and so completely snowing everyone that it would be heart-attack inducing shock when she revealed her duplicity. And then I wanted Hyun Jun and Sun Hwa (Sad Bunny) to be together forever. And what the heck was THAT, TOP. I mean…the role was stupid. You did ok in some places, I guess, maybe, but the ROLE was stupid. Just barely written. No explanation for anything. No background. Just dumb. It would have been better if they’d made him actually like Mi Reong, kill her anyway, let us see his sadness over that - and then, at the end, we could have Vic’s death be suicide by Hyun Jun and it would make some sense. Anyway, moving on. I watched episode 1 of IRISII last night. Me likey. Jang…of course Jang Hyuk, man. He’s so cool. I don’t think I’ve ever seen Lee Da Hae in anything, but I hope I don’t hate her simply because she carries the name of the worst b**** in history, Da Hae from Queen of Ambition.

Nice segue, huh? I love Queen of Ambition. I hate HER, though, and I want everyone else in the drama to end up working together to plot her downfall while she goes on obliviously unaware and stone faced thinking she got away with it, while the rest of them gather in the kitchen or the hallway or meet at the Han River to plan her death by stoning/dismemberment/fire/drowning/having her skin peeled off in 1 inch strips by whatever animal she is most allergic to. Seriously, like, entire TOWNS of people who stop talking and look at her with really bad poker faces when she drives down the street. NATIONS of people who spend all their time online being evil netizens, gossiping about her. And WHEN is Do Hoon finally going to realize she’s not being bullied by the rest of the world, she actually IS someone to hate? His poor sad puppy face is going to be hard to take, but I still want it to happen. Sorry, Yunho. And hey, man, you’re doing a decent job here. HaRyu is getting meaner. I kind of like that. And I love Kwon Sang Woo but does anyone else hear his lisp and kind of giggle, every now and then? That would be a real problem for him here, very role-limiting. It took me a while to be sure I was hearing it, because, you know, different language and all. But yeah, serious lisp.

Level 7. If there was less to watch in my life, I think I might feel more passionate about you. It’s not that I’m going to drop it…it’s just last on my list of what to watch, which means there’ll be weeks where I just never get to it. BECAUSE NINE IS STARTING WOOHOO WOOHOO.

YES I miss Flower Boys. Yes I was very happy with the end. Yes I prefer YSY with dark hair. Yes, I wish there had been more Watanabe, but ok. Yes, I was happy to see Queen Noguk there at the end. Not sure if I like Jin Rak revisiting his Rapunzel thing, though. And damn, did he look great there outside the publishing house?

TWtWB. What does it say about a show (or me) when I watch it in the morning and then spend all day thinking ‘I want to watch that episode again tonight.’ Love. Love,love,love,love, LOVE. When she collapsed sobbing in front of the car and you HEARD the lonely little girl’s heart breaking in her voice? And his conflicted responses…there’s a war going on inside of EVERYONE on that show. Except maybe Korean Fred Armisen, who just seems to be a nice guy. But Sec Wang – what’s her deal? We don’t know yet, but it seems like she’s got some issues to work out. Hee Sun, Jin Sung, Moo Chul, Oh Soo, Oh Young…they ALL have so many feelings at war inside themselves, I feel like if we were there in that set with them, we could HEAR it – like wasps buzzing inside a wall or something. LOVE this show. LOVE it. Do not screw with me. Everyone can die, I’m ok with that, but whatever you do, make it work. And don’t take me on too many side trips getting there. This is a Whatthefuckery Free Zone.

Music. Mmmm…for some reason, really caught up in Mental Breaker, by Block B. Heard a few things new to me, ElectroBoyz, F.Cuz, stuff like that. But I’m on a real Block B thing lately. Zico. Ah, Zico. When I can pull myself away from listening to Mental Breaker, I’m going to buy a ticket to Korea so I can go slap Taemin’s face. Because what are you doing, young man? How dare you change so much in just a few months? Give me back the baby! I do not want this man staring out of the monitor like that. Like he knows what we say about those Shinee Boys. Like he likes what we say about those Shinee Boys. Like he wants to show us how little we know about those Shinee Boys. That face is staring at us saying Noona, you have NO IDEA. I’m not ready for that face.

Anyway, chingudeul. Annyeong for now J

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JoAnne! Happy Friday ... how's the hair? lol

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Kakashi! Grumble, grumble.

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Hi hi Joanne!

I hated the ending to Iris also. They just had to kill him off. Blah. I hope Iris 2 does not have the same ending. ;p

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Oh they better NOT. Jang Hyuk is too cool to kill.

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JoAnne, Yay!!!

I only watched one ep of Yawang. Couldn't get into it.

And I started listening to Block B this week. Why? Because my new favorite K-celeb is little Yoon Hoo, singer Yoon Min-Soo's son, on Dad Where Are You Going, and he was paired with a Block B member as a grown-up lookalike on shiareagy.tumblr.com.

Damn, that child is cute. He's the total breakout star on that show.

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I have no idea who that child is, TS! I'm going to have to look at that tumblr when I get home.

The thing about Yawang is that in every episode after the exposition is set up - so like...from ep 2 or perhaps 3...SO MUCH happens each hour that I actually felt like I was hurtling along on a roller coaster. Perhaps a fairly sedate roller coaster, because it IS KDrama, after all...but my thoughts for the first few episodes were that the pacing was much more reminiscent of an American show than a Korean show.

The thing that is most fascinating to me is that there's not a lot of evil PLOTTING on the part of the horrible woman...she just sort of takes advantage of situations as they arise. Any time she tries to actually maneuver anything, it never goes according to plan - and then she just responds to the new situation. And our guys who are plotting revenge, at least in the beginning...HaRyu is such a sweet guy that he can't even begin to think ahead to how she might counterattack and so he often has to think on his feet, too.

Because she is at least wily, that evil wench. Her coldness is horrifying because it seems possible. She's not crazy, she's not mean, she's not vicious for the sake of being vicious. She's out for herself, and if she can see a way to use you, she will. If she thinks you're a threat, she'll use someone else to try and neutralize you. But if you leave her alone, or aren't perceived as a threat, she's quite friendly and affectionate and I don't get the sense that it's an ACT, at all. And she has that constant dumbass innocent look on her face like, who, me? I want to punch her.

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Su Ae is brilliant as a Queen, though. Watch Sword With No Name.

Yes, please check out Dad Where Are We Going. I've never been so into a variety show before. Most of the funny comes from Yoon Hoo and much of the rest from Lee Jong Hyuk's son, Junsu.

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Hey JoAnne! The way I read that final Dok-mi mk.II response from Jin-rak was a very weary 'oh no, not again' - like I said on the finale thread, it's pretty clear unlike, say, the ending to 500 Days of Summer that he's learned his lesson and at the very least, will not put Ha-kyung (as I call her) on a pedestal like he did with Dok-mi.

(and Yoon Shi-yoon looks SCORCHING HOT with dark hair, a lot like a pre-army Lee Jun-ki, in fact)

re: Iris II, Lee Da-hae was in My Girl, which I really enjoyed (mainly for its male leads) and was pretty good in that, buuuuttttttt, she is practically unrecognisable from those days now - probably as a result of surgical intervention. Which is a shame, because she was a beauty - still is, but I can't reconcile her old face with her new one.

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Oh GOOD...I missed that, Pogo. That makes me feel MUCH better.

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I only watch the first episode of IRIS II, but I kept hearing Joo Yoo Rin (LDH's character in My Girl) whenever LDH speaks. So distracting.

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I only watched the first episode too, but same here. I actually preferred the teenage versions of the leads to their adult counterparts, they were cute with the teasing/trash-talking(her) and the shyness (him).

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I have issues with Lee Da-hae (or rather her acting). And her character doesn't make much sense to me (yet?).

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JoAnne -

*totally laughing* at your Queen of Ambition comment regarding your wish for all the people to meet at the Han River! I barely started watching this .... I'm up to ep 4 ..... I've heard the comments regarding this awful woman so I'm bracing myself. At ep 4 she's already unlikeable.

Regarding your comment about TWTWB ...... what you described is me right now with I Miss You (so you're not alone with that description! Hehehe!). IMY has captivated me and it won't let go. Amazing.

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Kor Fan - I LOVED LOVED LOVED I Miss You, so I understand completely. Loved it so much I dismissed all naysayers as 'You're wrong! You just don't UNDERSTAND! It's much deeper than you realize!'

Never gonna give up defending that show. Never.

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Yes!! Exactly!! I constantly read how overwhelmingly sad, heartwrenching or whatnot it was .... and that people were dropping it or whatever .... I'm like, "No no no!!!" ..... it has complexity, layers, oh so much .... so so much.

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It's the only melo ever to get me totally invested in whether our leads end up ok - even Nice Guy couldn't do that for me, but this one did.

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I wasn't a huge fan of the amount of time they spent with the chaebol rubbish, but I will never give up defending the emotional part of that show for our leads. Even if the weight of the worst part of the story (as in the worst thing to happen to them, not worst as in storytelling) fell squarely on Kim So-hyun and Yeo Jin-gu, I admit I love them a smidgen more than I did YEH/Yoochun.

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THAT would make an interesting DB thread someday -- Dramas You Would Defend To Your Deathbed... and Why? I can only imagine the fan wars and fistfights that would ensue... *breaking out popcorn*

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Sang Doo! They're DEAD, people. They didn't just move away to some hilly place to teach school/coach gym. They're DEAD, and it's kind of perfect, and omg I can't believe my eyes are filling with tears. I hate you Cher.

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*snerk* Bwahahahaha! My job here is done... (skipping off going la la la la la)

"Smile Donghae" for me! This was the first daily drama (and I've watched a truckload over the years) that made me cry and sigh on a regular basis. Plucky hero that keeps getting beat down and picks himself back up time after time? And he COOKS? Oh yeah, please!!!

I don't give a rat's ass what ANYONE says -- the DVD Box Set will be by my side into my next life as well. :)

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Hi JoAnne

I super liked the way you talked about Queen of Ambition and TW,TWB. Echoing all my thoughts exactly!

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Funny that you mentioned Block B and Shinee. I'm on a pedo-noona mode and I just love listening and looking at maknae P.O. with the TOP-esque voice and baby face and get all confused because I'm a weirdo like that. I got issues. Anyway, the first time I paid attention to Block B was when I heard the Ghost/Phantom(starring mong-face So Ji-sub) OST Burn Out. After that I got hooked on Nanrina. Dayum Zico and P.O being all cool and badass rapper-like. I have a thing for those. Be it Bang and Zelo of BAP, Zico and PO of Block B or GD(not so much) and TOP of BIGBANG. Also, is it a trend for hiphop groups made out of 2 rappers and a slew of rnb singers to have names starting with 'B'?

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" pedo-noona mode" Ha! So true for me too.

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TWTWB: that crying scene in front of the car was seriously beautiful. Props to SHK for actually crying and not thinking about how her face may look like and whatnot (although to quote Heads: It's Song Hye-Friggin' Kyo!). Strangely it left me a little cold; I was connecting with it mentally but it didn't get me in the guts. Maybe it's the Winter-effect. I still enjoy the show tremendously.

FBND: hahahaha I had the exact same thought when we saw JR outside the publishing house after the time jump.

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Hi JoAnne!
Just wanted to say I'm with you on the lisp. It's a total no go for me. I seriously cannot include an actor with lisp into my Hall(yu) of Oppas. That goes for KSW and JIS - he is fine in TWTWB, but his pronunciation.

And thank you for your extensive description of the expected and wished for future of Da Hae. That was juicy :)

Have a nice weekend :)

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yes, Kopytko, I'm picking up a little on Jo In Sung having a bit of a thing, not a lisp exactly, but ...something.

I can't fall for Kang Ji Hwan for the same reason. It's like Marlon Brando. Once they open their mouths, any oppa thoughts go RIGHT out the window. No. Can't have that in my ear. Well, Marlon Brando never inspired that in me to begin with, considering my generations Marlon Brando was The Godfather, not On the Waterfront. But he wasn't even SCARY with that voice. I was like are you SHITTING me with that? No. Go away.

Sadly for me and Kwon Sang Woo, I hear it clearly enough now that I have to put his OMG HOT DELICIOUSNESS on the 'do not call' list. Because otherwise I would have BITE him he is so yummy.

Happily for me and Jo In Sung, it ain't a problem yet.

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Good for you.
I heard that little something at the very beginning of TWTWB, so my excitement for JIS faded. Good for me. One less to be obsessed about :)

Funnilly enough, I like actors (actually, guys overall) who mispronounce R-sounds in that way or another. Am I that weird???

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Kopytko, not strange at all! In fact, in real life, I doubt I would let a lisp or odd pronunciation tick get in my way if I really was into a guy. I glory in the shallow here but in real life, I tend to fall for more substantial qualities :) But HERE, here...I want perfection.

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Ah, I was totally ready for the new Shinee men :) Now they finally look like they're the same age as me!
If only we could get them out of those fugly pastel patterned things and into more suits (or less clothing overall) I'd be ecstatic.

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Erin, Jonghyun and Minho can rock a pair of faded jeans like nobody's business.

And, um...Onew is sort of reknowned for his um...jean filling abilities. He's one odd duck, that boy. Or horse. You know. Whichever.

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Oh I know! (And Onew should probably be a chicken, lol).
I love that they dance so much - there is some awesome musculature to ogle ;)

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You clearly haven't spent much time on Tumblr....

(but yeah, he loves chicken)

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Ohhhh my goodness, JoAnne, I laughed when I read your comment about the lawyer from TWTWB looking like Fred Armison. I KNEW there was something really familiar about that man's face, but I couldn't quite place it.

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Am watching Queen of Ambition now but not sure what the first episode is implying. That bloody clinch....well, i'm hoping it's one of those little k-drama cinematic deceptions that will bring about happiness for me in the end. I so dislike folks dying because they can't live without the horrible person they're totally in love with.

Gotta get hopping with marathoning and catching up with TWTWB. Everyone seems to be liking it. Wish i could get the movie version out of my mind.

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Happy ot/Friday/weekend! ^_^

Finished fbnd, liked it. Love me a happy ending. :)

No chef, still watching. I'm curious if the whole staff got transported back in time and ken and youko only two wbo survived? Hmm...

Have not been watching the wed/thurs dramas. Kinda sad really. I'll habe to catch up on Iris 2 later on. Heard missrd reviews on l7cs and twtwb. We'll see if i marathon these two. Ha

Heard virus is out today. Hope it's good. ;p

Still hoping for JYJ tour in US. Japan fans r so lucky.

Real life, time to go shopping in a few hours. Lol Been a while since I
hit the mail.

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Sorry for typos. On phone. So hard with little buttons. Lol

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HAPPY OT EVERYONE!!!!

Thank you for all the support last week <3 I think the play went ok... my friend really enjoyed it!!!
I was actually super super ill then and actually past out about 5 times by the time I reached the Kitchen. Almost fell down the stairs and broke my neck and died... so YAY! haha...

Still not great now but hopefully better soon!
Everyone on Campus seems to be really ill at the moment.

Now I'm meeting a friend in town cause she had a bad day yesterday so speak soon!

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Leaf! Glad u feel a little better. Take care n have fun weekend. :)

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Leaf ~

I do hope you feel better soon. I was sick for 2 weeks. Felt like I was trying to breath through a sock. Ugh!

How did your stage debut go?

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Hello Leaf! /waves

OMG I'm glad you're all right and hope you get much better soon.

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Leaf, are you from U? Everyone here is sick as well haha, me included. Get better!

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daium, I meant to say UK... not U

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Ooh! You're from the UK? There are so few K-drama lovers here!
I managed to get a few friends to watch the odd drama or two but can't interest them in more! It's sad having no one to talk to dramas about - which is why I am SO glad there are dear Beanies (who all sound very intelligent and thoughtful) here to discuss.

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Yep, I'm living in UK! :D Most of my close friends from uni are KDrama watchers, we found each other like a miracle haha. My first-year room-mate is, amazingly a kdrama fan, imagine my shock and excitement!

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Happy Friday, everyone! Finally managed to arrive here before it reached the 100 posts mark. :)

Anyways, currently watching Can You Hear My Heart? It's a very lovely show (except the beginning was super boring so I skipped the childhood episodes and went straight to the adult storyline). However, it's a 30 episode show and I finally reached ep 20 but am going to take a break before I finish marathoning this one.

That Winter, The Wind Blows continues to be the awesome show it is and I highly recommend those that haven't jumped on its bandwagon yet, to do so because you're really missing out on great fun. :P

Like everyone else, I'm eagerly waiting for subs for Virus. Hope they come out soon.

Also still watching Incarnation of Money; it's not everyone's cup of tea but this is one of those shows that albeit riddled with plot holes and annoyances, it still is very charming and interesting to watch.

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happy friday to all^^

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Hello OT people!

I'm still in the throes of post-FBND 'WHAT DO I WATCH NOW?!!!' feels, because I can't believe it's all over. But that last kiss was swoonworthy, to say the least - yay for the cable factor and Yoon Shi-yoon factor kicking in at last! Best surprise of the episode, no contest.

(and I know we joke enough about Park Shin-hye's onscreen kisses - probably unfairly, because she's not the only actress with that problem - but I have to give her credit for this one, there were hands holding onto his coat to pull him closer and leaning full-body into the kiss and actually tilting her face up for it, and those were things the slow-mo and perfect windblown hair could not create illusions of..... now, fingers crossed that her next PDs don't make her go back to dead fish kissing! If Jung So-min and Yoon Eun-hye can manage it, she can too).

I'm watching That Winter, The Wind Blows, but without much investment - it's intense while I watch, but afterwards, I don't have much to say.

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My only problem with TWTWB: It's like a "self-conscious" show. Everything is so precisely calculated than there is no room for good accidents. It's like a shooting for models. It's beautiful to look at but frankly I'm not that invested in the characters. The aesthetic perfection kills the feeling a little bit. If I may use an example, even George Lucas got his Star Wars spaceships used, dirty and malfunctioning at times: It makes the world real and familiar. ;)

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Well, Mysti, there is that hole that Oh Soo punched in the wall of the house now...

And I notice every time they do a close up of his wrist that the edges of his sleeves on the wool jackets seem to be pilling. Does that help?

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Happy Friday Beanies,

something amazing is happening today: the sun was shining a little. That was so beautiful.

This week a friend asked me, what is so special about Kdramas and how I became an a ddict. The question could not be answered easly. And today I wanted to write about my journey into addiction. Maybe there are similar fates? But it's late and I'll probably do it next time.

I am watching L7Servant. It has become a bit boring. But luckily we have our villain. A very very sexy villain. ABS!!! (good thing, he didn't hurt his arm). :-). So please mooore abs next week.

And I've seen the first episode of xxxHolic.
I am not a fan of the anime nor the manga. But I really like the artwork of that manga. Does that sound like a contradiction? Whatever.
When I read about the live-action, I was very excited.
And I like the optical implementation of the manga. The witches shop looks great ...the witch too... I hope a (visual) crazy journey will start...

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Soooooooorry.!!!!
There's something slip into the wrong position......

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Hello Mystisith,
I feel the same with TWTWB.
But next week that annoying crazy staring girl is back (like always in those melos). And will cause trouble for our heros. Could be annoying. Could also be interesting.
Let's see what happens ...

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Hi Pogo! Big Hug!

Yeah, I like TWTWB when I watch it, but forget about it after.

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Hey TS! *hugs back*

I think I'm just not cut out for old-school melos, the thrill/tension of whether Soo is going to be busted gets to me far more than the broader question of whether they live or die.

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I think that's the crux of the conflict for me too, pogo. I don't like this business with the return of the brain tumor or the death pill (as I like to call it). I just finished episode six and it feels like they're letting out the slack a little in terms of the thriller angle, which was what was drawing me in in the first place.

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Will you girls do another podcast. It's been a while, I miss your voice and witty comments :(
Level 7 is disappointing. I mean it's still fun, but I only watch it for JW and skip other parts
Gotta marathon Wind blows :) the visual is awesome, but I feel like the main guy overacts too much

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I second that too. Another podcast please.

Also another Thing versus thing post.

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Friday!

No Chef ends next week? Only 8 eps?

Watching K Dramas: Money, Ad Genius , Winter Wind

Winter Wind is crazy.

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@ John
I was surprised too: J doramas are shrinking while K dramas are getting longer... Frustration!

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I don't really watch J doramas, but I miss my 16 episodes K dramas, well at least I only watch them live, and won't have to marathon such ridiculous length dramas.

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yeah i started wondering when i saw the last episode. Will Ken stay in the past? He can't, right? Because he MUST return to the present. Will he bring Natsu with him? How can they wind it all up in one episode? Is Youko such a catalyst? Will she die? Will Nobunaga die? Will Natsu die? Or is this part of some long-running manga. I was all prepared to have Ken do all sorts of Jintastic stuff and mess up history.

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Carole ~

Ah, my poor Natsu ! I have a feeling she won't live happily ever after with her beloved Ken. Sob ! I'm hoping the drama gods let her down gently. At least let her kiss him goodbye.

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I haven't looked at the RAW yet. Waiting for sub. Tempting though. Maybe a reset for everyone, you think? But a shame that it's so few episodes. I wanted them to play with time travelling, food, and my sweet Ken for more episodes. Seems the story just started. If it ends now, it'll feel so one-note and like a kid's show with no real exploration of the plot...except for food. Still, i do like this show a lot.

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Looks like we might have until episode 12..i think. I think. Will see.

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oh! and I almost forgot ... the second SSP (=shower scene post) is up! http://dr-myri-blog.blogspot.ch/2013/02/top-5-shower-scenes-take-2-broody.html

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thanks to all that made suggestions last time (must have been about 4 weeks ago!) woah ... time goes fast ...

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Thank you very much for ruining my night with those SSP. My fave is kwon sang woo. Now, I have to take a shower myself.

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OH MY GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Kim Ji Hoon sweating, showering, I just can't process anymore *nosebleed*

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oh myyyyyyyyyyyyy oh my!!!! Why is the first pic so sexy?

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,Spending my Friday night watching American Idol..haha, so sue me.. I am looking forward to the new subbed episodes of Dad, Where are You Going..

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I wish they'd hurry up and sub! I've also requested Dramafever and Viki to do it, since ShiaReagy seem busy.

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oh, I'll have to look it up and watch that show, only heard good feedback about it. I'm mostly watching variety shows nowadays, the currently airing dramas just can't pick my interest. Oh, and 1 american drama, so you're not the only one "betraying K-TV" haha.

So happy fbnd ended finally, can't wait to see nine!!!

I'm just pausing the MT episode(14) of Shinhwa Broadcast to take a break from laughing. I highly recommend watching SB, those guys are a total riot, and they are only(*sigh*) 11-12 years older than me :D

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Forgive me for imposing everyone, especially if I ramble on. An open thread seemed like just too perfect an opportunity to make this little declaration. Just chalk it up as the big romantic confession that generally happens somewhere around episode 10.

You see, today marks one year exactly since I first (by a rather backwards route) happened upon Korean dramas. I never would have imagined it in a million years, but It was love at first sight and (thanks to the wonders of Netflix) it was quite easy to note the date. The drama was My Princess, which has gone on to be eclipsed by many other dramas in the pantheon of my heart (hello City Hunter and Coffee Prince!!), but, in addition to banking more goodwill towards Kim Tae Hee and Song Seung Heon than they probably rightfully deserve, it marked a huge shift in how I occupy my free time.

I've voraciously watched drama after drama this past year, some dramas repeatedly. I fell in love with Lee Min Ho and Park Si Hoo and Gong Yoo and Kim Sun Ah and many more actors and actresses than I could possibly name. I've laughed til I cried at History of a Salaryman and Answer Me 1997, and cried buckets towards the end of My Girlfriend is a Gumiho and Queen In Hyun's Man. I screamed at my computer screen over Eun Shi Kyung, breathed again when Kim Seung Yoo reconciled with Se Ryung, and watched the Heung Soo/Nam Soon bromance pretty much turn my heart to pudding. There is a bit of twist to this story though, because the funny thing is, in spite of all this, I've never actually told it to anyone. It wasn't really a conscious choice, but I'm a rather private person, so once I started to have this thing that was just mine, my own little world, I wasn't really inclined to invite anyone in. It was all too easy really since it's not exactly something that would come up naturally in conversation. After all, when's the last time you heard the latest episode of 1N2D discussed around the watercooler? It does leave me in a bit of a pickle though, because I don't really have anywhere else to say this but here (my haven for all things kdrama): Happy one-year anniversary dramaland! I'm so glad I found you!!

Oh, and thank you dramabeans for continuing to be my guide and gateway in! Without you I may never have been able to venture as far into dramaland as I have.

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