That Winter, The Wind Blows: Episode 15
by HeadsNo2
It’s always the ones you love that hurt you the most, and after a few episodes of emotional decline, this was the episode that turned the experience sour. While not singlehandedly negating what I’ve enjoyed about this show, this episode did manage to cram everything everything I didn’t like about this show into one package. Is it good? Is it bad? I don’t know if even *I* know, because I’m still confused about my feelings and half of the characters’ feelings. But from a plain ol’ user experience: It wasn’t fun for me.
EPISODE 15 RECAP
Boss Man ensures Jin-sung’s involvement in the Rigged Game by going straight to him, claiming that he can’t trust Soo if Jin-sung doesn’t participate. Our resident loyal friend agrees on the condition that Soo doesn’t find out.
But Boss Man’s nefarious plans for him don’t end there, since he also has Jin-sung’s materialistic sister under his control.
Soo drives Hee-sun to a drinking spot on a scooter, the anguish on their faces evident since they can’t help but be reminded of Hee-joo’s death (while Soo is also reminded of his last scooter-drive with Young). They barely exchange words once they reach their destination, and choose to serve each other hefty glasses of soju instead.
Lawyer Jang tells an expressionless Young that Soo didn’t take the money, concluding that “Oh Soo must have really liked you.” He tries his best to make her happy now that he’s all she’s got, but he does grow suspicious when Young declares that she’ll be pushing the surgery back a day.
It seems like she’s lying when she reassures him that she’s not thinking of backing out, but the fact that she urges him to take another (albeit short-term) job offer should raise some red flags.
Now that they’re loosened up with a bit of alcohol, Hee-sun asks Soo why he didn’t take Young’s money. “Are you trying to look cool by risking your life?” she asks. “Do you or do you not know know the effort I put in to save your life?”
Soo nods. He knows. This causes Hee-sun to become even more confused as she tries to figure out his aim – he could have taken the money and walked away, but instead he’s returning to his old life of gambling and conning. Does that somehow redeem him? “If you’re trash, then you’re trash. If you’re a thug, live like a thug. Stop confusing me.”
His amused facade breaks a little when he admits, that yes, he should act like a thug if he is one, but he fell in love.
Soo: “Hee-sun. When I left that house, I left with dignity. Because I love her. Because she loves me too. In order to see me someday, she will live. So even if we’re apart right now… At least one time, even by chance, we will meet. Believing that, I was able to leave that house not only with dignity, but with arrogance. I didn’t even say that I was sorry. But, Young saw that side of me and told me… that she loved me.”
Words become harder for him to say as he fights back tears, especially when he tells Hee-sun that Young said she was happy, all while looking lonely. It breaks his heart to know that he hurt her, as he all but ignores Hee-sun while chastising himself through a barely-contained meltdown: “I should have just conned her. I shouldn’t have made her fall in love with a guy like me.”
Our star-crossed lovers try working out their mental anguish through exercise, though Soo breaks first and calls her. Young thinks about it with the same vapid expression she’s grown fond of and ignores the call.
Hee-sun worries for Jin-sung with the big game approaching, even though he reassures her that no one but Moo-chul could beat the dream team combo that he and his hyung make, and Moo-chul isn’t playing.
She reluctantly agrees to let him go through with it, but warns him that it’s the last time. Jin-sung kisses her on the cheek: “After this is over, let’s go to the countryside.” Oh no. Ohhhhhh no. Moments like these make my stomach sink, because you just know something bad is going to happen to Jin-sung. (Please let me be wrong. Please let me be wrong.)
Soo’s definitely suspicious that Jin-sung would so readily agree to stay out of the game, but he can’t fight Jin-sung’s megawatt “I told you to trust me!” smile. Noooo no no. *already looking for a corner to cry in*
Secretary Wang relegates herself to watching her parents from afar, smiling all the while.
Likewise, it’s nice to see Young smile again when she finds out that Lawyer Jang invited all her coffee shop friends to breakfast, with the eldest responsible for the meal. She uses the happy atmosphere to pressure Lawyer Jang into accepting that other job/case, reassuring him that she’ll be taken care of in her absence when the Coffee Shop Trio volunteers to watch over her.
He finally agrees, but only on the condition that he’ll be back before her surgery.
We find a bewildered Soo at the hospital, since he was unaware that Young pushed her surgery till the next day. Dr. Sun-hee hesitates before asking him if he knows about Moo-chul’s condition, but zips it once she realizes that Soo has no idea.
Moo-chul’s lackey comes to ask Sun-hee for painkillers on her brother’s behalf, though she rejects that request and the other – for her to give his regards to their parents. She knows he’s preparing to die and refuses to be complicit while he ties up loose ends.
Young still isn’t picking up Soo’s calls, so he writes her a text instead to ask if it’s okay for him to contact her every now and then. In the end, he chickens out of sending it.
Soo perks up when he hears the familiar clickety-clack of a white cane, and is dismayed when the wielder isn’t Young. Still, he helps the blind girl to her bus, and chooses to stay with her to protect her when the bus driver gives her a hard time.
It just so happens that her stop is near the visually impaired center Young volunteers at, and Young happens to be at the bus stop with Mi-ra and the rest of the group. Soo stares at her through the bus window while she remains unaware, and soon enough, the bus starts moving.
Soo makes the bus come to an emergency stop so he can go running after Young, landing him in the same restaurant with her and her group while he watches from another table.
Stalking is nothing new in dramaland, but Soo is seriously the saddest stalker ever. He’s even smiling like he’s that happy just to be breathing the same air as her, even if she has no idea he’s there.
Next on the agenda involves following Young in a taxi, just so he can catch a glimpse of her through their car windows. This is both pathetic and touching all at once, and I don’t know which of those I’m feeling more.
Mi-ra ends up spotting him and tells Young, and her first reaction is to ask how he looked. Mi-ra doesn’t really know how to describe his expression, but he sure didn’t look like he had a hope in his head and a song in his heart.
Moo-chul shows up at Hee-sun’s place looking like he’s seen better days. Hee-sun wins some serious points for finally calling Moo-chul out on acting like the most pitiful bastard in the world when he only lost a one-sided love – she lost her sister, her parents lost a daughter.
When she openly admits that she can’t understand him, Moo-chul all but mutters, “That’s why I’m going to try and understand myself.” He knows he’s not the only guy to have lost his girl, or to have been dumped, or to have endured a life of poverty. Hee-sun applauds all these as positive steps toward maturity.
Moo-chul falters a bit in pain, and we know why. “I was only trying my best to live,” he explains, and it sounds suspiciously like he’s learned something from Soo. He tries to explain why her that her sister’s death affected him so much, mostly because she was the only ray of light in his otherwise bleak existence.
“If I were to be born again, I wouldn’t live like this,” he adds. “But I can’t help the fact that this is the end for me. Hee-sun, even if everyone in the world curses me, I want to understand that I lived like this because I was dumb and simple. Because if I didn’t even understand myself… I’d be too pitiful.”
She knows something’s up and asks him if he’s sick, but it would be unbecoming of any drama character to ever admit to an illness.
Ah, but there’s a twist to Moo-chul’s story, as we find out from one of his minions – apparently Moo-chul is the only reason why Jin-sung and Soo are still alive, and he’s been protecting them from Boss Man all this time. Weirdly enough… I can totally buy that.
Gangster Wannabe seems to buy it too, and stalks behind a visibly ill Moo-chul as he waits for a chance to strike.
Soo convinces a group of gamblers into Boss Man’s high-stakes game, giving into their demands to make sure the game is fair. (Even though everyone knows Boss Man rigs his games.) Soo wins them over by pretending to be on their side, so that he’ll act like a double agent and take Boss Man out (monetarily), which would benefit all his rival gamblers.
But by the way Soo drops his smile out of their sight, it’s hard to know if he was telling the truth.
Young has found a new human pillow in the form of Mi-ra, though she doesn’t seem that comforted and gets up to make a call.
Meanwhile, Secretary Wang punches an I-miss-you letter in Braille to Young, only to be interrupted by her call. She picks up the phone with desperate concern, causing Young to feel guilty – she would’ve felt better if Wang was angry to get a call from the daughter who kicked her out.
“Are you scared about tomorrow’s surgery?” Secretary Wang asks.
“A little,” Young admits, adding that she knows Secretary Wang hasn’t been spending her days at a home she’s not welcome in. Wang tears up at her concern and wishes her well for her surgery, and they hang up without any hard feelings. Young’s eyes grow red with tears. All right, I’ve about had enough of this “I’m fighting the feels” face. Just let it OUT already.
Young wanders into Soo’s room in her loneliness and imagines him there smiling and talking with her like always. It’s not really clear whether these are memories of him or just her wishful thinking, but she’s happy to crawl into his bed and imagine him lying beside her as Imaginary Soo leads her fingers along the edges of a pop-up version of The Little Prince like he’s reading her a lullaby.
They’re at the part in the story where the prince calls out into a desolate landscape only to hear his echo return. “Why are all fairy tales sad?” Imaginary Soo asks, sending Young over the edge. She stifles her sobs while lying in his bed.
Lawyer Jang calls Young to tell her that the case is taking him longer than expected, though he plans to meet her at the hospital that night before her surgery in the morning. Young acts like everything is fine… but something’s fishy.
She lies to Mi-ra about Lawyer Jang returning sooner in order to get out from under her watch, though she does so with concern for Mi-ra’s job interview and a necklace gift. What is she trying to do?
Young secretly calls the hospital to delay her check-in until 9pm, because hospitals are just glorified hotels. Her last human obstacle is the maid.
Soo arrives at the hospital during the time Young is supposed to arrive, only to find out the time’s been moved. (Is she just trying to avoid him? What is she trying to accomplish?!)
The maid gets disposed of with the same lie, that Lawyer Jang will be there any minute to take care of her. Oddly enough, Young is having all her Braille books thrown away, claiming to those in the house that she won’t need them after the surgery. Which we can all translate as: Lies.
Young goes to the greenhouse once she’s finally alone, and cries when she finds that Soo re-planted the lamb’s ear she’d tossed in a tantrum.
Meanwhile, Soo waits for her at the hospital and hangs up on Moo-chul once he sees the maid bring Young’s things, but not the girl herself. Moo-chul downs painkillers to fight his increasingly-severe bouts of stomach cancer.
Lawyer Jang’s calls to Young go unheeded, as she throws the keys to the greenhouse room into the garden to hide them. Mi-ra gets a call from Lawyer Jang and starts running back toward the house. Auuuugh, this is getting frustrating.
Hee-sun sees Jin-sung off as he heads to the hospital, surprisingly chipper about getting to go into the operating room just to take care of his hyung’s girlfriend. Why are all his smiles making me nervous now? This show is going to be responsible for my ruined nails.
Soo and Sun-hee are left to worry at the hospital when Young is a no-show, though he thankfully gets a call from the missing person herself as she sits in her big, empty house.
He answers it carefully and talks like he’s easing her away from a cliff, which if he knows her well enough, is probably the metaphorical case. It’s like he knows she’s this close to skipping out on her operation, and he doesn’t want to scare her away.
The thing is, she’s already scared away, and admits as much after he catches her lying that she’s already at the hospital when she’s NOT. She tells him that it’ll all be okay since Lawyer Jang is there to pick her up, just when Sun-hee gets a call from him saying that he can’t get ahold of Young. Gah. All the LIES.
Soo starts panicking and running as he all but begs Young to listen to the tape he left her in the secret greenhouse room that explains everything, not knowing that she threw the keys away. Dude, just TELL HER NOW.
To his credit, he does try to get her to listen, but she coolly cuts him off: “I have nothing more to hear from you. I told you, I understand you.”
Soo desperately tries to get her to stay on the line so he can say what he needs, only to be met with a dead line. She’s hung up on him.
And because no one in Seoul can hail a godforsaken cab, Moo-chul comes to Soo’s rescue with the only working car around, completely hopped up on painkillers. Fun.
Young heads to the kitchen, going straight for the knives.
But wait, Moo-chul hasn’t come to the rescue after all, since he gets out of his car only to kick and punch Soo. Soo tries the pacifist route for a few jabs before he turns on him in a rage, screaming, “Young is in danger! If I don’t go right now, Young will… Young will…”
Moo-chul ekes out how good he thought Soo and Young looked together, all aglow with true love. “I always wondered if there was such a thing as love in this world. Love does exist. Just like the time when I first met you, I wanted to say goodbye to you.” And he hands over… something?
Moo-chul starts shuffling away, looking like he’s going to fall over and die any second. And… Soo just takes his car and leaves him there, with the promise that he’ll call back later. Um. Couldn’t you have just thrown him in the car with you?
Headlights engulf Moo-chul from behind, and he’s met with a knife to the gut the second he turns around. It’s Gangster Wannabe, finally cashing in on that revenge card.
Soo keeps trying to call Young as he speeds toward her house. We hear him in voiceover, “I had this to say to Young: ‘I’m sorry. I love you. It’s not over for us. Let’s meet again.”
We find Young running a suicide bath. Soo’s voiceover continues: “‘Even if it’s coincidence, for once, I sincerely hope I’ll see you.’ Although I couldn’t say all those things, because it seemed like an excuse.”
Young holds her wrist under the water stream and takes a knife to it as Soo sprints toward the house, calling her name.
“I had to say that one thing to Young… That in this hurtful world, I once thought that life was nothing. If it’s gone, it’s gone – that’s all I thought life amounted to.”
As he runs into the house, Young’s blood drips into the tub.
“But you, Young, became the last reason for me to live like a human being. Could I become the same to you? In this empty world, could I not become your last reason to live?”
Soo finally bursts into the bathroom to find Young draped over the tub, one wrist cut open and bleeding.
He desperately pulls her into his arms, calling her name to try and bring her back from the brink.
COMMENTS
The Good: I didn’t see the suicide twist coming.
The Bad: I didn’t see the suicide twist coming BECAUSE I THOUGHT WE’D BEEN OVER THIS ALREADY.
When Young started suspiciously lying to get some alone time, I felt frustrated. When she shut down and shut out any hope I had of comprehending her thought process, I felt angry. When Moo-chul had an existential crisis before he got carjacked and stabbed, I started to feel an eerie sense of calm wash over me, so that by the time we got to Young and the knives and the bathtub and the slit wrists, I’d already run the emotional gamut between anger, confusion, and frustration to transcend into that mystical and unwelcoming land of Not Caring.
Honestly, I didn’t expect this show to jump the shark so thoroughly, but here we are, at the bookend that’s supposed to reel us back in after two episodes void of any real forward development or an overall sense of purpose. Yes, people moved on screen and said words, but once we reached the point where Young decided (AGAIN) that life’s not worth living, all the filler in-between suddenly felt meaningless. And it’s not like the words that were said had any part in helping our understanding of her when she spoke 75% lies and 25% incomprehensible half-truths-open-to-interpretation.
In the end, we can only guess at what led Young to this point, and while I’m sure any and all theories could carry equal validity (she never stopped being suicidal, just kidding she did, she was never suicidal in the first place, just kidding she was, she meant it when she told Soo she wanted to live, just kidding she didn’t, she grew and matured as a character and didn’t regress, just kidding that never happened), I just can’t understand Young, The Character. I’ve tried to, because she did have plenty of valid reasons to be sad and miserable despite how keenly she understands her circumstances, BUT, having a character with a death wish and an extremely good poker face is surprisingly the antithesis of entertainment. It’s not the suicide attempt itself that’s the deal-breaker for me, it’s that feeling that we’ve spent fifteen episodes just to come back and retread the same old ground in bloodier packaging.
When it comes down to it, I have just ONE requirement to jump on board a character’s journey: They have to care.
That’s it. That’s all. Everyone gets a few get out of jail free cards when it comes to lapses in judgment, but Young’s character arc was predicated upon her willingness to live/die, without ever convincing me (until now) that she truly wanted one more than the other. And it gets old after a while to have every other character care fifty times more than she does, always treading on eggshells around her lest she be spooked by the shadow of her will to live, thus damning her and everyone around her to six more weeks of suicidal winter.
*POST-RAGE APATHY QUIT*
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51 Solair
March 31, 2013 at 2:27 AM
I for one, am eagerly waiting for final episode, so far so good!!
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52 Torisangel
March 31, 2013 at 8:25 AM
This drama really hit home for me. I've had a tough battle with depression for years and even attempted suicide myself twice. I completely relate to OY's character. I mean, completely. I can relate to her and she's understandable to me, because..I know what it's like to feel so low..that you feel like you can't get up. If you feel like your whole world is crashing around you, that all the hope you had..turned out to be all for naught, what would you do? You certainly wouldn't be happy, that's for sure. I see a lot of people calling her actions selfish. I agree. It is selfish. Suicide in itself is a selfish thing. When you're in that sort of mind-set though you really don't see that far ahead of you. It's like a one-way train track and the other end is only blackened out. Tunnel vision if you really want a good comparison. You don't see much of anything else besides your own feelings at the time, and even that is distorted in a way. You've got a serious imbalance in your mind from certain experiences, situations, and things that have happened to you in your life and sometimes it's just a flaw from birth.
It's not that OY doesn't want to be helped, it's that she sees it as a pointless thing to do. She took one step towards being better when she finally told OS she wanted to live, but what people aren't considering is..that was before she learned about him. He was the last person she decided to open up to and really trust again..even though there was big neon flashing light above his head saying, "DON'T TRUST ME!" She deep inside, wanted someone to trust. Her whole life, she had nobody. Nobody to trust, nobody that she feels like really cared for her. Since she was 6. 6! Over the years, things really start to build up. Things just pile on top of an already fragile person. Something inside OY snapped when she found out about OS. I think all the hopes and the chances she had finally taken a step towards making were thrown out the window at that moment.
Honestly, I think OY's character is fleshed out very realistically and very relatable. Her last call made a lot of sense to me, she gave away all of her things, sent everyone away..She wasn't asking for help. She was saying good-bye. In her own way, finally something that she could control..This was her way of doing things. I do admit though, even when I was attempting mine..in the back of my mind..There was always this hope..that someone would care enough to stop me. You really just do not think normally when you're like that. At the same time, you don't want help..but you would like someone to try to. I can't stress it enough to everyone that..suicide is just not a logical thing. You can't make sense of it. Things by that point, have clearly gone over the edge, tumbled down the cliff, and hit a shit pile.
Anyway, I'm done with my rant for today! I just felt I had to post this and to air my thoughts on it. ^^
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loveprevail
April 1, 2013 at 10:48 AM
Torisangel,
Thanks for your honest sharing. A perspective not of assumption but of real experience.
Being so candid, I hope I'm right that you've found a greater meaning to your life. :)
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53 marie
March 31, 2013 at 8:27 AM
Thank you for the recap
I think both of them and Jin Sung will die...sadness but I love the emotional development of this drama....
I love Oh Soo (especially when he cries),
I love Oh Young (the way she analyzed & solved the problem but not with the suicide),
I love Jin sung & Hee Sun with their loyalty
I love Lawyer Jang
I Love Secretary Wang who teach OY so that she can learn about a lot of things and I hate Secretary Wang because she did not let OY get operation from the beginning
I love this drama.......so much :)
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54 TinaFee
March 31, 2013 at 1:26 PM
First of all, I should say: it's one of the best drama's I've seen so far (in the last 2-3 years) BUT I hated the suicide scene! The show made me believe that Youngie is a wise, self controlled, young woman, which was hurt in many times-> until ep. 10-11.
Then, the show made her character to a unhappy, depressed young woman, whose reactions were no more believable. The more I got to understand Oh Soo, the less I liked Youngie! And I really want(ed) to like her (also because of some feministic! reasons). Still love this show! :-(
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55 phjfever
March 31, 2013 at 2:29 PM
i agree w/you DB i didn't expect the suicide twist to be coming when the drama is about to end, i guess i can only assume she's extremely lonely/sad & missing oh soo that she cldn't hack what's going on in her life right now, as if she doesn't have a choice but to end it once & for all; on the contrary i was expecting her to sort of live - have the surgery & look f/ward to at least seeing oh soo how he's like & all that - after all it's been revealed that they're not siblings! anyway i really admire oh soo's quest for her to go through the surgery & live her life albeit he knows he's not going to be back with her at least for the time being! this is gonna be one of my fave kdramas of all time! i commend both song & jo for their strong performance in this drama, awesome overload!
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56 renan
March 31, 2013 at 4:52 PM
People seem to be disappointed when we saw dramas depicted in ugly facet of life but this is the reality in this ugly world. We can't relate to them or we don't understand them because it didn't happen to us or maybe because we were not in those situations. But if we just open our eyes in the realms of our world, these situations presented in this drama surely happens in reality and I applaud this drama for showing the viewers that we live in an imperfect world and we have an imperfect life, we make bad decisions most of the time.
I'm so looking forward for the next episode because I know the writer will show that even though we made mistakes in the past, there will still be a part in this world that is still beautiful and worth living for. How will she show it, that's I'm curious of.
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57 amie
March 31, 2013 at 7:16 PM
I actually love this drama. I am really not into melodramas because they are so depressing and slow, but the only reason I started watching this one was because of Kim Bum. I am so glad I did because I was hooked since the beginning. I hope that Young is not dead because that would really suck if she really did die :(
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58 Small Birdy
March 31, 2013 at 8:31 PM
I, too, have gone through my own depressions. Staring into the abyss is scary and not easily understandable by others who have not experienced it. To me, OY's actions are understandable. Her biggest enemy is loneliness and that is not an easily solve-able problem especially when her one great hope turned out to be a fraud.
Loss of hope is a devastating thing and one that, unfortunately, afflicts a lot of people in these modern times.
No matter how it ends, this is a beautifully made drama and there were some really great dialogue too. I will come back to it often.
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59 poleng
March 31, 2013 at 10:57 PM
reading all the comments here, i say, most of you are just viewers, not audience.
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60 rafflesia
April 1, 2013 at 12:02 AM
TWTB is a great story. 2 lead characters with their own flaws. i still think when "Oh Young tried to kill herself in the latest episode", or "wants to kill herself and later wants to live", and "mad when she found out the pill can kill a person although she wants herself dead too" is logical. I do not think the writer is not describing her character well. I think she really describe humans and reality.
Many of our actions are sometimes not consistent, sometimes we regret and immediately rectified our decision, sometimes we are blinded our own rage, sadness, hate, etc and did things that we regret and sometimes, we also wonder what made us to become so stupid and act that way. I think Oh Young is just human with many bad histories and add to that she is blind. She has complex personality as she is surrounded with people who are never close to her because of her BUT her money. Because she is rich, she is very isolated. Unlike us who have the chance to freely interact with many people. How she manage to survive from 6 years old till now, makes me wonder.
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61 Badzmaru
April 1, 2013 at 12:53 AM
I try to avoid mello-dramas as much as I can. My girlfriend loooves them but I'm more into rom-com's, that said, I wanted to say I really enjoyed this one. I was surprised as to why...maybe it's the plot, maybe the theme or maybe it's just Song Hye-kyo. Nevertheless, i try to read the recaps of my favorite dramas to better understand the dialogue/plot a bit better and I have enjoyed HeadsNo2 input very much. Thank you for your insights/opions.
Without going in to why was she suicidal etc, I wanted to say I can't wait for ep16. I have a feeling they're gonna cram it all in the last episode and I can't wait for this weds!
That's my 2 cents...
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bbee
April 1, 2013 at 8:19 AM
adding 2 cents more for you comments..
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62 bbee
April 1, 2013 at 8:17 AM
i like this show, simple reason "story is different", totally new concept to me ... story has a depth , every scene has a new meaning , which was brilliantly acted by the actors. Lots of suspense a full coverage of a melo.
as to why our heroin resorted to the suicide act ...No one can change so much in one stroke, it takes time, the drama progressed she started learning how to lean on sm1 how to trust another person ...to believe that good will happen ... but the trust broke ... the happiness broke hence she restored to her fav thing which she was wishing all along.Nice punch.
Mr Soo the conman , who sold family cows(neighbor) as a gambler changed his act completely from a conman , a sarcastic pessimist to a guy completely in love discovering new emotions of joy, happiness "peace" - there was a lot of changing in soo's character , he wanted to change for a better man that he only dreamed.
For this alone I like this serial, since they showed how one can make a choice of changing to the better or worst like Moo chul & Soo & young ..
i wish this serial has a realist end. If I wr to give a ending ..Soo will go to jail accused for the murder of Moo chul .. since he was the last guy Moo chul had a
fight. no witness there... Young gets her surgery and forgets all. They meet after few years .. remember the phrase "that winter when that wind" how much they had loved each other and how much life changed because of it. :)eternal heart hoping for a eternal ending ...
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63 loveprevail
April 1, 2013 at 11:08 AM
I do get where Youngie is coming from. She only found her will to live because of Soo and not from her own desire to live for her own self. She didn't find happiness and love within herself but through him.
So her new found perfect world was all because of one person.
When the lies were exposed, everything came crashing down including her. She had let Soo take her up so high and now found herself even lower, even more depressed than before because of her heightened experiences with him.
For Youngie, she's now worse of that before. All her reasons for living are gone. Soo left. She lost her brother. Even her love/hate relationship with Secretary Wang has lost its appeal. In the depth of her despair, alone and in pain, she believed that was her only option.
I really have to give full credit to the writer for her acute perception and understanding of a deeply depressed person and her point of view.
Though we understand Youngie but we don't condone the act of taking one's own life. So I hope the writer will do the responsible thing and leave us with a feeling of hope and a better world. :)
Rom-com is my thing. Which is why I'm still kicking myself for watching this (SHK's fault) but I've to admit it's a real solid piece of work.
When Youngie started acting weird, it did occur to me that the writer may let her go this way and I hoped that I was wrong. Why didn't the writer turn her into a naughty Youngie who planned her escape so that she can spend a day with her oppa or better still, run away with him with enough dough to live comfortably and make lots of babies? Ahem...
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64 MEK
April 1, 2013 at 11:44 AM
this drama lost me back in Ep 5. I love Jo In Sung but for some reason I cant watch this drama. I have not watched American TV in 3 years because Korean TV has been sustaining me - but now, I'm so BORED. Why??? The only thing I'm looking forward to is Gu Family Book. Sigh. Needless to say, I'm back to watching American TV - i have a good cable package so I have a lot of channels...
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65 meimei
April 2, 2013 at 11:05 AM
love love love this show.
Folks this show is real.
It is not romcom. It is not a weekly sitcom, where problems get resolved logically within a week neatly..because human emotions are contradicting, unreliable, illogical and most of the times makes no sense.
For all the negative press out there who are not getting this show, i'm really glad for you, because it must be that life has not thrown you a curved ball yet, your trust has not been betrayed, you have not been deeply hurt, especially by a loved one, and no beloved has let you down.
but to some like myself, who, unfortunately or maybe fortunately, has been in such situations, some lines, some emotions, some responses has really spoken to us.
Soo is the narrator, its easier to read him. Young, at first seems hard to read, hard to understand. but the wonderful thing about this drama is, the more you think about the characters, the more you see. There are 2 sides to Young, the one who lives in the secret room, who crys, who thrash things, who vows revenge, and the Young outside, calm, in controlled.
did you see how Young's face hardened at the last frame when she was watching the video and reminiscing about Soo? when she said in the video to Soo: you didn't think you've won now, do you? Why, on the day she was going to slit her wrist, didn't she even go into the secret room for one last time, it was after all, her favorite room. Why was she so angry in the room, thrashing the room up, crying and chastising Soo in the video, but was perfectly calm and understanding outside?
The problem, if indeed that, with the show is, one does need to think about the characters and their motivations, not unlike our loved ones and the people around us. human motives and feelings are not obvious, and certainly not logical.
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66 meimei
April 2, 2013 at 11:21 AM
on the part where many thought the show has been over Young's lack of will to live (which is what i read, more than she wants to die) already, so why are we back here...
hereabs a point to ponder -she has just learned that Soo, the person she has grown to love and trust, has been lying to her all along, plus her brother is dead, plus she don't get much of a chance at the surgery anyway, to me, if she just continue onwards in her trajectory of becoming whole and mentally healthy and strong, that will really be unrealistic and frustratingly simplistic.
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67 Alouise
April 2, 2013 at 12:55 PM
I think that this show was beautiful (and beautifully plotted and crafted -- visuals, artwork, moodiness, etc.) right up until episode 12, and then the wheels didn't come off the bus, they sort of just lost air, and we've been stuck on the side of the road with the hood up for the last two weeks.
These are the issues I have with the show in no particular order:
1. OY's character has not fulfilled the smart, angry, and *shrewd* aspects she initially displayed. It was entirely unsatisfying to think she was thoroughly duped by OS by the time she finally knew he was not her oppa in episode 13. The putting on of her hosiery, knowing he was outside her door, in the beginning episodes made me think, "Alright! She might be blind, but she's got some moxie!" I thought she really might give OS a run for his money. But, alas, it wasn't to be. And I don't know about anyone else, but the faux-cest for me really only worked if they were both in on it to a certain degree. If she strongly suspected he was not her brother from the beginning, then I was willing to go down the faux-cest road with them for a while, and even enjoy it a bit. However, I find it very uncomfortable to think that her need to touch him constantly, and his need to flirt with her was truly her idea of brother/sister affection. The writers kept giving me excuses about her innocence, but, sorry Show, I don't buy it -- nobody can be shrewd *and* that stupid at the same time. And tire one deflates.
2. Moo Chul. Moo Chul hates OS in the beginning -- so much that he gleefully STABS him in the gut as a warning of impending death. Okay, so I'm willing (sort of) to buy that Moo Chul may have some kind of preternaturally clever way of missing all the internal organs that are crammed into a body cavity, but I am not willing to buy that he did it, ultimately, to protect OS & Posse because he is actually a dying mobster who deep down loves everyone. WHAT? Who is OS going to be afraid of then? How can we be nervous of evil Mr. Kim if the dude has only been given 10 seconds of air time? Moo Chul was deliciously evil -- he should've stayed that way, it would have made OS's choice to give up the money that much more emotionally impacting for the audience! And tire two deflates
3. Kim Beom -- I don't think I need to say any more. But I will. I really think that all the rolling around in the snow that OS and OY have done could and should have been devoted to developing Jin Sung and Hee Sun's plot line. Without them, the storyline has become very monotone. All the potential emotional conflict and pull of the outside world on the cocoon that OS tries to build around his love for OY could've been ratcheted up by using these characters for what they are designed for -- reminding OS who he really is, and what he owes the dirty little world he created/came from. This would've made his eventual choice of raw redemption over the loyalty of compatriots and ease-of-living that much more meaningful. But their development never happened, and so we have all the hubcaps fall off at once.
4. The beauty of OS's emotional redemption from greed, vice, and fecklessness has been a beautiful journey that, I feel, culminated in his breakdown at the hospital when he found out OY essentially could not be saved. However, from that moment to now, that journey has been completely derailed by the fact that OY and OS's characters are not fulfilling what the writers seemed to promise in the beginning. It seemed to me that the set up was OY wanted to die, but OS was going to make her want to live, and OS wanted to live, but he would choose to give up his life in order to save OY or, at the very least, prove his love for her, and thus both would find a kind of salvation in each other. Neither of those things have really happened, and so the third *crucial* tire flattens with a loud raspberry sound.
5. And the final tire? SECRETARY F-ING WANG. Okay. WHAT??????????? Who is this person? And I mean, really. WHO. IS. THIS. PERSON? She is the oddest character I've ever seen. I don't know if I'm supposed to like her, hate her, want to tear her hair out, root for her to find out the truth about OS, champion her late-in-life-love story with Lawyer Jang, admire her smart little slippers and the way she takes every insult OY lobs at her -- WHAT? What, Show, what did you want to do there? Because I actually find her to be the scariest character of any I've watched in a really long time. She faintly reminds me of the Kathy Bates character in _Misery_, and if this is who she was supposed to be, then great, play up the "I love you so much I want to control/kill you" creepiness, and we'll be in familiar territory, but I don't think the writers truly knew what to do with her, and so now neither do I. The unchartability (not a word, but it should be) of her character is truly frightening, and if she existed in a logic-driven real world setting, you'd have (HAVE) to have her committed.
And maybe I should be committed for ranting like this, but I was so hooked on this drama for the set up in the first few episodes -- it had everything: plot symmetry, emotional redemption of bad boys, emotional redemption of damaged girls, a deliciously evil mobster, an unfair set of circumstances for the heroes, beautiful actors and settings, and a potentially tear-jerker of an ending, but now? I'm just waiting for Triple A to come get the carcass of this show and haul it to the wrecking yard. :/
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68 Abbie
April 2, 2013 at 4:57 PM
I did not see that coming. Not one bit. If anyone ever needed an Enrique Geum, it's Young. I feel, and this is just my opinion, that all Young really needed is for that one person to show up who could be happy and crazy (the good kind), and just basically show her how to live in the world. She never really got that from anyone, not even from Soo. Sure he was all about telling her to live, but she needed someone to show her how to do it. To take her out and do crazy things with her. Sure, her blindness might have hindered her, but still, someone needed to try, and no one did! Blind people aren't helpless. I'm really disappointed in Young. She had so much potential, and to just throw it away like that? Why would she do that?! If she dies, I'm gonna be pissed.
All the moments with Jin-sung saying sweet things to Hee-sun, about living in the country, or saying good-bye to her, scared me too. Thinks to other dramas, I have a knee-jerk reaction to those types of things, thinking something is gonna happen to him. (Thank you, City Hunter.) Nothing better happen.
Poor Moo-chul. I can totally buy that he was protecting Soo and Jin-sung from Boss Man. It makes a lot of sense, at least where Jin-sung is concerned. I hope Moo-chul's okay.
Thanks for the recap, Heads!
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69 mishmash
April 2, 2013 at 9:09 PM
for once I agree that I did not see the suicide coming. not that it was impossible because after all she's been looking forward to death since day one. but somehow I've been leaning since the beginning that's if anyone dies, it's going to be Oh Soo. Not because he's bad and he deserves to die...but because he's doing so many wrong and it feels that the only recourse is that he die. (I'm not saying that people who have done wrong should die but because this is supposed to be a tragedy or setting up to be a tragedy like all the other good Korean dramas). the only possible thing with Young dying, is that to let Oh Soo feel the pain of others dying around him instead, the other Oh Soo, moo chul, the ex girlfriend, young, even maybe jin sung
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70 mishmash
April 2, 2013 at 9:24 PM
the ending in my head somehow goes like this: this before i watch the last few episodes: oh soo sacrifices himself (by getting himself killed by pres. Kim)while young goes into surgery, then they use his eyes and give it to young so that she can finslly see herself and the place where they went to hear the rustling of the trees. and she tried to find him but did not know that he was dead. until 1 day her tumor relapse and she was rushed to the emergency and she saw white light and sees Oh Soo waiting for her in that place where the wind blows....
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71 earl
April 8, 2013 at 4:25 AM
I just want to say thank you for keep posting each episode. Im following, honestly. With my basic korean, watching the drama wouldnt make me able to understand it fully. So, thanks much.
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72 kinac
April 26, 2013 at 7:45 PM
Omfg i totally agree with you on this i was just caring less and less until i seriously didnt give a shit if she was gonna die anymore.
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73 peevans
March 2, 2018 at 4:13 AM
For me this was the most touching ep especially when oh so and hee sun talk... Omo can't stop crying when he poured out his heart 😞😟... I regret not watching this drama B4... I thought it's not good since it's melodrama 😞... I was wrong I like Jo In Sungs acting and the chemistry between him and Song Hye Kyo daebak 😘😍😊😀😙... Keep it up Oppa and Uonnie.. God bless
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