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Dramabeans Podcast #17, Part 1

You guys sure asked a ton of questions when we opened up our podcast request line, and we did our darnedest to get through as many as we could. (If by darnedest we mean got drunk and rambled, which, obviously, we do.) It’s a two-parter this time around, so stay tuned for the wrap-up in a few days!

(Apologies for the music in one or two places where I didn’t lower the volume enough. It’s not too terrible but in retrospect, it should have been lowered more. I’ll be paying closer attention to the levels in the next one.)

 
Podcast #17, Part 1

Running time: 61:05

The questions we address:

  • Why are you so mysterious?
  • Do the people in your real life know about your online identities? Has fame changed the way they treat you?
  • Why did you start making recaps, of all things? Why recaps and not just commentary?
  • What colleges did you graduate from? (8:10)
  • What are common things javabeans and girlfriday disagree about when it comes to their tastes in dramas?
  • What are your favorite/ideal actor types? Character types? (10:38)
  • How accurate are the drama depictions of Korean culture? (20:20)
  • What are your favorite actors in terms of acting ability? (23:37)
  • And actresses? (28:13)
  • How do you maintain your enthusiasm for the subject matter? (31:44)
  • How hot is Lee Sang-woo? (34:08)
  • What was the first time you guys met face to face?
  • Will you have a meetup in LA?
  • Will you have a meetup outside the U.S., say the Philippines?
  • On a tropical island: Pick your favorite drama hunk, two dramas, favorite food, and an object. (36:00)
  • What exactly is the drama trifecta of having good acting, directing, and writing? (40:20)
  • Whatever happened to Samsooki and would you consider having a male writer on staff?
  • What dramas have foreigners as significant characters? (48:54)
  • How much time does it take you to do these recaps? What’s your schedule like?
  • Do you think Korea’s really experiencing a golden age, or is this just a product of the workaholic mentality?
  • What do you think of the crackdown on all the streaming and downloading websites? (52:08)
  • Where do you see the future of this blog going? (56:36)
  • Why is there a lack of rom-coms these days in dramaland? Why don’t we have hugely popular crack dramas like You’re Beautiful, Boys Before Flowers, etc?
  • How many hits does Dramabeans get?

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Songs Used in Podcast (In order of use)

I decided to pepper this podcast with random tracks from various drama soundtracks, just ’cause they’re fun and would hardly get used otherwise:

“달콤한 당신” (Sweet you) from the Bad Couple OST
“Kissing Me” by Alex and Daniel Henney from the Seducing Mr. Perfect OST
“Oh My Goddess” by Sung Shi-kyung
“Cappuccino, Mocha & Cafe Latte” from the My Sweet Seoul OST
“Merry-Go-Round” from the Hong Gil Dong OST
“Rainbow Soap from the On Air OST
“꽃다운 서른넷” (34 like a flower) from The Woman Who Still Wants to Marry OST
“Cutting Board and Knife” from the GourmetOST
“짙은 바람” from the Triple OST

 
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Yay! Been waiting for this! Can't wait to listen!

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This was fab! I wonder if it's sad that I totally knew who your favorites were. Although, its not like you try hard to keep it a secret.

I appreciate that you keep real life separate from web life. That seems like a healthy thing to do since I'm not sure the two could easily co-exist.

Thanks for taking this time to share just a little more insight into dramas, your reasons for writing and watching, and of course a little Korean culture.

And I must agree that Lee Sang Woo deserves a question and answer all his own. Something about that guy just makes me sigh. Yes, he's handsome. But he also seems "normal". Plus he plays like the nicest, most understanding characters ever. LOVE!

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Hahaha, the Lee Sang woo question cracked me up. Especially because the question before it was so serious- "How do you maintain your enthusiasm for the subject matter?" But I totally agree. Lee Sang woo is hot in that "I-could-potentially-meet-a-real-guy-who-looked-like-you" way. He's also really tall! Being a tall korean girl myself, I totally appreciate how tall he looks :) I think he's in a weekend kdrama these days if people are interested...

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YES! I can't wait to put this on my phone and listen to it while getting to work tomorrow - thank you for bothering with putting all these questions together, seeing this list makes me even more curious. Thank you!

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Super excited about this! And even more so now that I know that it includes drunken rambling... I hope there was lots of giggling too because listening to drunken, rambling, giggling jb and gf is like the best thing ever.

Thank you! We love you!!!

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You guys picked awesome questions to answer! I remember reading some of these. I'll find a nice, quiet place to listen to this (because it's harder for me to comprehend something without visuals). That way I'll be able to give this my full attention.

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My internet connection is so sloooooooow. I want to finish downloading so I could listen to your podcast.

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Okay, I am stuck. I love the podcasts especially to hear how Korean names and words are pronounced, but I could not figure out who JB was describing as the pop culture figure at 12:48. Anyone know?

Thanks!

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Never mind....I should have kept on listening. lol

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Sung Shi-kyung ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥ ♥

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Thanks JB!!

He is funny when he gets cranky! :)

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Is it too much to ask for a full list of your favs? And GF's? Unfortunately, I can't understand the names you mention but I'm dying to check them out. Pretty please!

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I couldn't catch Javabeans' first guy, but she named Kang Ji Hwan and Lee Minho and Girlfriday said Gong Yoo and Lee Seung Gi. I could catch those names because they're all my favs haha

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the first one JB mentioned is Lee Jung-jae. she's provided a handy list further down at 14.1.2.

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Omg, you totally share my view on SSK! Your descriptions of him really cracks me up :).

Thank you JB and GF for this podcast. This really helps me going through this crappy sunday with a whole postgrad thesis going on...

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Oops, I mean Monday. Crappy Monday.

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Hurray!! I spent way too much time trying to find SSK cds (so I can listen to him in the car on my commute; I don't have an ipod) when I was in Seoul studying. I made so many friends when people found out I loved SSK!

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Ditto.

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I love the song "Kissing Me" and the MV they made. Thank you for using it. I actually love the OST of that movie. I also thought Daniel Henney and his female co-star (the lead) had a really good chemistry, especially BTS. There is one BTS where I think the filming comes to an end, and she get teary eyed and emotional, and he is very tender and affectionate with her (or maybe it was just the scene they were shooting that got her like that, I am not sure). I kinda wished that scene was in the movie, because it was a beautiful scene between the two of them.

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I'm surprised to hear that ppl in real life don't know about dramabeans. So even your friends aren't aware?

I don't know about others, but I, for one, would find dramabeans quite fascinating to hear from ya'll in person.

Thanks for taking the time to do something like this- especially in such a busy sleep-deprived tim for you guys.

Looking forward to hearing the next podcast!

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Oh yeah, I completely agree with your analysis concerning K-Drama streaming/downloading.

It's already a bummer that it's hard finding places to make drama viewing accessible, so they think the solution is to cut off the access? The logic<<<

Like you two pointed out- they they want the popularity but they not only not make it easier, but make it harder on people.

Why can't they just make it available for us people to buy it? Why make it so difficult? I just want to watch to feed my drama addiction so I'd more than gladly pay for it if it'd be accessible on I-tunes.

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Dear Javabeans: I would also marry Shi-Kyung!!! He is sexy, tall and he does seem like the type of person any girl could fall in love with. Although I feel like you are my noona JB I would fight for Sung Shi-Kyung. LOL kidding about that, but I do understand exactly what you're saying about Shi-Kyung.

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Be very, very careful. JB is territorial when it comes to this one. Tread lightly with the Shi-Kyung love. ;)

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I know, which is why I said I was joking there, but the truth is I can understand why she might feel like that... The guy evokes that type of emotion in you...

Just like Joo Won evokes in you the instinct to take in the kid that looks so cute and lost. By the way, I'm younger than he is. =)

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Babs,
I luff your reply on SSK and Joo Won. Those are the same feelings that invoke in me too! Now I don't feel as creepy about myself.....

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Good idea about having dramas available on iTunes!!!!If only wishes were beans!I wish I could watch my dramas right here on Dramabeans!It'd be my one stop site for all things drama!

Over-educated and underemployed....hmm...now I'm really curious what schools you went to and what your day jobs are.

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i got curious too after I heard that!!!

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me 2. Can't you tell us? We won't stalk you, we promise.
XD

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Me too! lol.

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THIS is why we find the both of you mysterious!

It's interesting how they managed to breeze through this question and the "first time they met" w/o actually answering. I hardly think they'll answer what their majors were and their current day jobs are.

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jajaja I never thought they would, because of the answer I heard before "you guys think we're much more interesting than we are".... (I was paraphrasing there)

I guess it's part of human nature to be curious about the people who bring you info on kdrama, and some tidbits of kculture, which in my case is one of the things I love, I love it so much I want to teach in SK when I finish my studies... But as I said before human nature...

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hmm. I think maybe one day we'll know what their day jobs are, but personally I think a first name would be a good place to start, ha. I think i remember JB's from the much older posts when someone thanked her using her first name. GF and the recap minions I don't know but i'm rather curious. I think these web names are like personas, but I also think you all are the same way you are in real life since the two overlap but never quite blend. It's sort of like keeping your business lives separate from your personal lives, although i wouldn't consider DB as business but more hobby.

The reason why you guys still seem so mysterious is because of the personal questions that you only lightly touched upon, and we're left with more questions.
"drunk, soju, getaway car, underemployed,overeducated" just words like that make us more curious than we were before. ;)

I think if you actually told us the actual amount of hours it takes to recap, people would be a WHOLE lot more appreciative. Because i think sometimes people take for granted or rather forget that you drama goddesses are human beings too. You need sleep, rest, etc. And just because you've done recaps for so long doesn't mean it's not time consuming still.

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I also love hearing the pronunciation of names and words. When I first began watching kdramas, I just followed along with the subs and never learned the characters names, let alone the real names of the actors. Now I try to learn the characters' names and the actors' names and say them in my head without knowing the correct pronunciation. So your conversations really help with that!

Loved the distinction you made between recap and commentary. For example. when I have a conversation, it is typically a mix of both. But to have an objective recap and separate commentary in context - wow, you really do work hard for us. It's like getting double for the money. A big thanks for that.

In fact, we beanies benefit from the collective high quality of what you want for yourselves that is generously pass on to us.

On Korea wanting its media cake and eating it too - I have often thought that if kdramas and kpop (which you acknowledged is ahead of the game) and other things Korean want to reach a bigger global market, then they have to make access easier, not more difficult. On top of easier access from the networks there is the added step of subbing without which I wouldn't be a kdramaaddict. At all.

Loved the podcast - thank you thank you thank you!

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Thank you. Love the music!!! Please open another request line, next maybe? :)

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Oooooh thanks, I can´t even start to describe how much I love listening to your conversation! And you have such pleasant voices! For someone who gets normally easily bored with radio talks, podcasts and the likes, I can only marvel at how entertaining this is! Can´t wait for part 2:-)

I got a question: What´s the name of the actor born in 1987 that you compare to Lee Jeong Suk? I should know all of the 87 actors, but hearing you say it, it doesn´t ring a bell! Makes me wonder how many Korean names I actually pronounce in a wrong way in my head........

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i believe it's Jung Il-woo.

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That's who I got as well. I know he's besties with Lee Min Ho.

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Aahhh, thank you so much for your quick reply! It´s definitely him! And they do really look alike:-)

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I agree that it's Jung Il-woo. It took me a couple minutes to pick up on that though. I know my pronunciation in my head is horrible, lol.

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After listening to this podcast, I learned I'm pronouncing all the Korean names wrong! Darn my English speaking brain.LOL

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Yeah, it was a bit confusing with the mentioned names. I only recognized/guessed those I knew...

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I know I'm watching too much drama, because I can actually recognize the names with "correct" pronunciation. But I still can't say them right for anything. I think if I went to Korea I'd get laughed at constantly for my poor Korean skills. My English tongue that can't make those sounds. :(

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Ah, maybe a list will be useful. Names mentioned at some point in the podcast, not in strict order:

Gong Yoo
Lee Seung-gi
Sung Shi-kyung
Lee Jang-woo
Lee Min-ho
Lee Jong-seok
Jung Il-woo
Kim Woo-bin
Choi Jin-hyuk
Ha Jung-woo
Park Hae-il
Ryu Seung-ryong
Kim Myung-min
Lee Je-hoon
Lee Mi-sook
Kim Hae-sook
Gong Hyo-jin
Su Ae
Moon Chae-won
Hong Soo-hyun
Jung Ryeo-won
Jung So-min
Jung Yumi
Im Soo-jung
Lee Yoon-ji
Park Bo-young
Lee Shi-young
Park Ha-sun

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You´re the best, JB! I can finally stop my frenetic googling of names based on the infos you give and the way they sound in my head......which gives me more time to enjoy the rest of the podcast:-)

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Thanks Javabeans. Listing it is quite helpful.

The names were just whirling around crazily while I was trying to make sense of it all and failing.

LOL at your comment about Lee Min Ho.

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Daebak :)

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Thanks for the list Javabeans! Just wanted to add that in the podcast you also mentioned Kang Ji-hwan and Lee Jung-jae (to make the list more comprehensive).

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omg... you said that many names in the podcast? I freaking caught lee min ho, jeong suk, seung ji, shikyung woo bin and maybe 2 more D: wow... I'm bad at pronouncing korean names.

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Thanks for the names. Glad I'm not alone in being challenged to match sounds to names.

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Thanks!

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I wish I saw this before I finished the podcast lol. I had to a lot of rewinding and then pausing to process the name and then googling the ones I couldn't put a face to (which was the majority of them, how dare I call myself an addict ><). I've been pronouncing everything incorrectly in my head :(. Thanks so much for the list!

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Hahahaha, you and me both sister.
I was literally trying to type out the words as they sounded in my head into google trying to match the names and who they were talking about to actual faces.
It's funny. I'm glad i'm not the only one having issues with korean names. It's like you think you know them, you have a hard time remembering and saying it in real life (simply because there's not much conversation where a korean celebrity's name pops up, from someone who has friends that don't watch k-dramas) and then hearing GF and JB say their names so effortlessly and fast is a bit hard to keep up with.

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I hadn't see this one before. Thanks a lot!!

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Oh thank you, I was getting quite depressed I didn't know who you guys were raving on about. The movie stars. But now that I look at the list... I actually do.

So need to google the rest.

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My problem is I can't understand half of the names they are saying, which is depressing since I am putting so much time into learning the language and hanging out with native speakers... sigh.

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lol I remember going to a bridal shop in SF where my friend tried to tell the Korean shop owner she likes Lee Min Ho during casual convo and the lady was like, "...who?"
So I bust my pronunciation learned from DB and said "Eee Min No" and the lady was like, "Oh, Eee Min No!"

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I do the same too after hearing JB and GF. Now when I see Lee written, in my head in read "ee". The same for Jung Il woo. One time in one of the High kicks season he said "My name is Jung Il-oo", and I was like ahhhhhh ok! so I guess the extra "W" is for us foreigners to be able to pronouce it better.

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I have a totally different problem, I understand (or is it understood) 99% of the names but then when I check them out on internet, most of the time it's not the person I was thinking it is... I am having a hard time matching names with people, oh well...

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Such a great listen while stuck in traffic. I've never listened I a previous podcast because I'm always behind in the live watches. Loved seeing a glimpse behind the curtain and realizing I have no idea how to pronounce any names.

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What an excellent question completely needing to be asked.
And I totally agree

LSW - SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
HOT

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Awesome awesome awesome podcast!!! Way too cool getting inside a very small part of your brains to see how they tick. Count me in as one who will definitely make the trip down I-5 to Los Angeles for a DB Meetup. ROAD TRIP!!! :P

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Thanks GF and JB! Love your podcasts. Curious though, who do you consider the alpha vs. beta male in the LMH/JIW vs. LJS/KWB pairs?

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oh yes, please! and especially, why? More thanks from me for the clarification on names, I was cursing my ears.

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I know this one. Min Ho and Woo Bin Alpha. Puppies Il Woo and Jeong Sook Beta boys.

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Really? I think all of them strive to be alpha males. It's just the drama roles where I see the distinction.

My most favorite part of dramas is when the alpha male sees the beta male with the one he wants. Convoluted?

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Jung II-woo is the alpha vs Lee Min-ho and Lee-Jong-suk is the alpha vs Kim Woo-bin. Woo-bin and Min-ho are the betas! And if you swap both friendships, alpha versus beta, they even look so alike haha.

p.s. @javabeans & girlfriday...to paraphrase: 'back-hugs all over the backstreets of Seoul'. LOL.

Totally agree about access for the dramas. Most of us not in the US (with the K-national ID) would happily pay to stream/buy if their was such a facility.

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yeah. basing it off of their description of the boys where jung il woo and lee jong suk are playing noona killers and puppy romances, these boys would be the beta while lee min ho and kim woo bin would be the alpha males. Visually, i agree.

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Thanks Javabeans and Girlfriday!

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Javabeans,

Can I add some questions here for the next podcast? I was going to go back to the other thread to write it there but I'm not sure if you guys still check it.

1. Your top 5 heroines/heros, and why.
2. Your top 5 crack dramas
3. Favorite writer/producer
4 Favorite current dramas (Monstar, I hear Your Voice, You're the Worst, Lee Soon Shin- Hee ;) and etc.)

Thank-you again!

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Correction:*You're The Worst, Moms* :p

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They should have seriously named the show that -____-

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Interesting podcast, as always; thanks for taking the time to answer so many questions (and the neat sidestepping of the too-personal ones made me laugh).

I hope you'll do another Q&A session in the future, because I now find I have even more questions than I did before listening to the podcast. Which... probably wasn't the result you had in mind. *g*

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Wow, what a fun podcast! Thank you!

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I love listening to your podcasts! After reading so much of your writing it feels like I'm sitting and talking with friends, even if I'm just sitting here giggling along to myself.

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The combinations of Jung Il Woo-Lee Min Ho and Lee Jong Suk-Kim Woo Bin is the stuff of my dreams/unhealthy fantasies. The even better thing is they are real-life besties!

*DOUBLE DROOLS*

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hey JB can you tell me which Jung Yumi you guys are talking about, the younger one or the older one?

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please (sorry i forgot my manners)
also can someone please tell me who JB & GF picked as their tropical island drama hunks please

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Javabeans chose 'Delightful Girl Choon Hyang' and Girlfriday chose 'Biscuit Teacher'.

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Oops, sorry. I failed to notice 'hunks'. I always do :)

They both agreed to Choi Jin Hyuk, because they don't know enough of him.

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JB picked Choi Jin Hyuk and I don't think GF mentioned one.

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I think GF picked Seung Gi because he's kind of heodang about everything.^^

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@kumi, @Ash, @imho Thank you so much for all your help :)
do any of you guys happen to know which Jung Yumi JB is referring to I'm guessing it's younger one but I'm not 100% sure

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should be the Jung Yumi of Que Sera Sera and I Need Romance 2012.

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I'd guess it's the '83er (of Que Sera Sera and, more recently, Cyrano Dating Agency fame). :)

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The photo of the podcast, whoever it is Javabeans or girlfriday... looks like Kim Ha Neul :-DDD verry pretty!!! Thanks for the podcast!

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It actually is Kim ha Neul. My guess, it's from the movie "Ditto"

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JB, why did you mention Wesleyan in the beginning of the podcast? Is that your alma mater?

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I think I remember them saying they gave a guest lecture at Wesleyan a while back.

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Really? When?

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In this podcast:

http://www.dramabeans.com/2013/06/dramabeans-podcast-16/

It's not written in the content details portion but they make a brief detour to their guest lecture at Wesleyan when they talk about the Dramabeans Meetup.

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I think it was a little bit before their NYC meetup.

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Dear all,
Thank you for your ratings, I use it for my reference, most of the time I don't agree, but stikk end up watching k drama if you said it a good one
I wondring why I always watch drama or movie even its bad one if the hero and the heroin are :
Lee min hot , jang keun suk, kim soo hyun, lee seung gi, kim nam gil, son ye jin, zoo in sung, song hye kyo, kim ha neul,
Song seung heon, sin se kyung, lee bo young, rain, yoon eun hye, lee dae ha....., can you tell me why?

Anyway thank you for your time and effort all this time to fulfilled our thirsty off k drama.

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thanks you guys for the podcast...y guys could go on talking forever and i would still listen...i know u've probably already done part two of the podcast and m looking forward to more drunken shenanigans!

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Really interesting podcast. Great you covered so many different topics. Thanks guys!

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I knew Kim OkBin's "sageuk"-speak sounds off in Sword and Flower! But since I am not a Korean speaker I thought it was just the show being fusion-y.

Regarding the acting-directing-writing trifecta, I am a bit confused. I have always thought that the director is in charge of framing the shot and correcting the movements of the actors/actresses while editors are the ones who are in charge of music placement, cut-to-cut/scene-to-scene transitions (at least this is how I understand the North American model of film production) but in your podcast, javabeans describes these roles as the same. Is this more of a difference in the Korean entertainment industry or am I missing something?

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The editor does what the Director tells him to. So, the Director is the one that says "cut here" and "put the music there", etc

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Loved the podcast! I missed the podcast request thread so, may I ask have you girls met any k celebs irl? Thanks!

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Thanks for the awesome podcast! You ladies rock!

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I mined Park Hae-il first. He's mine mine mine.

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My dream podcast would be all about Park Hae-il from beginning to end lol. In all of the Korean actors that I know, he is the one I love love love the most.

Thank you girls for everything :) recaps, podcasts, movie reviews, etc etc..<33333333333333.

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Thanks for this hilarious and super informative podcast! You answered both of my questions, yay! :)

I can't wait for the next instalment.

(And don't worry by the way, life plans are overrated.)

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Thank u both for the podcast! This will get me through a slow Monday at work. Thanks also for the list of actors mentioned. Very helpful!

Thank you!!! :-D

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regarding the legal availability of kdramas: YES, PRECISELY. if there was a (good) way, i would be willing to pay to have my fix delivered to me.

mbc and one of the other stations has a whole slew of older dramas up on youtube through their official channels, which i found to be a pretty promising sign. unfortunately, for the mbc drama i wanted to re-watch, chunks of episodes were missing. there were about five or six videos per episode for this particular drama, and they never connected. i don't know if this was intentional or an error.

my mom gets korean cable, and all the shows from mbc, kbs, and sbs are recorded and stored for (only) a month. after that, they delete automatically. but despite the fact that we have good internet, it's just not the most reliable. it freezes all too frequently, and i just wish it updated faster (typically, monday's shows are updated by monday evening eastern time. i can't wait a whole day to watch i can hear your voice! haha).

so personally, i torrent everything. i recently discovered viki, which is a great backup. but i like having the files so i can watch at my own leisure, at my own pace. i can skim and fast forward and rewind much more easily on a computer than i can with a remote aimed at a television or with viki. streaming sites can be slow, and dependent on having (good) internet. which i do, but if i'm on the go somewhere, there's nothing like having the file right there to play.

i wonder if korea is aware of the extent of this sort of thirst for their kdrama products? koreans are speedy about a lot of things, but really slow about stuff like this.

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I liked your points about snarking. I'm open-minded to dramas, but I pretty much know if I'll like them or not based on plot, genre, and the actors/actresses starring. You guys are waaaay more optimistic than me. And I like that. I know a... um... drama blogger... whose snark I... pretty much... cannot stand. Ha. So trust me when I say, I appreciate the manner in which you two approach projects.

I liked your comments about good acting, directing, and writing too. 2/3 is a definite plus.

And Park Boyoung... I love watching that girl on screen. I totally wish she would do more television and reteam with some of her former co-stars from movies and music videos. Song Joongki, Joowon, Ji Changwook, even Junhyung of 'Monstar' to name a few. Ha. They all had such good chemistry with her but every story ended sadly. Boo. And I'm totally down for a Park Boyoung/Lee Jongseok pairing. Ha. Was that ever confirmed? I just hope her next project is awesome.

Anyways, thanks for responding to these questions. Nice to know there are so many of us entertainment enthusiasts.

Also... I must be on this site way too much... when I'm reading an article and forget to check who posted it, I can tell right away through your styles of writing and humor whose post I'm reading. Ha. Yeah, I think I fall under that over-educated, under-employed category too. Ha.

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I'm so glad that JB/GF had her rant on availing kdramas easily and legally. My friend and I don't even want to talk about the possibility that all of those sites offering kdramas will one day be out and typing that made me worry as hell. If only the immigration asked me when I visited Korea "Whats your purpose in visiting Korea?" I will answer with a proud voice, "KDRAMA!" haha

This is a timely podcast because I just had a discussion with my kdrama-addict officemate, that comparing how good kdrama vs our local (Filipino drama) is a bit unfounded because we don't understand a lot the language and culture. I told her we would not know how a line should have been delivered realistically especially in a sageuk.

I love this site because I am the type that would want to discuss with someone or a bunch of people what I've watch.

Hugs to you guys!

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This podcast is another reminder of why I fucking love you guys and Dramabeans. I get the feeling that I should learn Korean professionally so I can appreciate the kdrama/k-entertainment world a little better (or have a better reason to snark). As cheesy as it sounds, I think you guys are pretty inspiring pioneers (drunk slurs included).

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I love the fact that you guys go day by day without planning much. CARPE DIEM.
But i still can't help but notice you guys mentioning it's still up for precisely that reason. So that means when you guys get married and have kids things will be different? Can i "mine" you ladies the way everyone "mines" their oppas?
Thanks for answering my question! :)

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UHMFORCE !!!

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See, I was supposed to be transcribing an interview for work, but guess who stopped doing *that* to listen to this podcast? :p

I'm as curious as everyone else on where you studied or what your past day jobs were, though I'd also like to take a moment and shriek "Television Without Pity!! FTW!!! Woot!!!" If you've been hanging out there a while for US show recaps then I'll peg you both as being my age or slightly younger. :p

I had such a lightbulb moment when you mentioned it, because I've been reading your recaps since last year (when I first started being interested in K-dramas) and something about the quality of your recapping and the smart use of snarkiness rang familiar. (though yes, the snark levels of TVWP were something else)

This was a fun podcast to listen to, and I really enjoyed learning a bit more about you two. :)

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Oh, me too! I'm a TWOPer from the Buffy days, stayed through Alias and will occasionally go back to read a Grey's Anatomy recap. Great website.

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thank you so much for the new podcast! had been waiting for it to arrive. :)

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You girls are so much fun!!!
And drunk as hell ! :DD

With all the real life shit, you sticking around dramabeans, and giving more than just fun to us (seriously, so much), I appreciate you girls!

My heartfelt thank you!! <3

One curious thing, since you say you both are bad life-planners, I just wanna ask is Dramabeans your escape, or just something you are used to?

I mean, I know you both love kdramas and want to talk about it, but maybe beyond that do you do this because you are used to doing it everyday?

And one more thing, PACK UP YOUR BAGS AND GO TO PARIS! I KNOW YOU BOTH WANT TO!

Give DB a holiday for a week! :)
You girls deserve a holiday!

I am sure we will be patiently waiting for you both to get back!

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Great podcast and totally loved your deconstruction on "snark." Sooooo good. Thanks also for answering my question.

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Javabeans, Sung Shi-Kyung! I'm with you here. He's one of very few celebrities with whom I'd really like to have a conversation (also marry). He's self-aware and subtle and really upright, and he clearly values his education.

He's totally not encouraged to speak the way he does, and I love that he's a big stubborn stick in the mud about it. I love that bokbulbok is a matter of integrity for him.

If anyone hasn't seen it, he kind of railroaded his episode of Knee-Drop Guru and it was awesome: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xqgovj_eng-gf-sung-shi-kyung-071031_people

I also like his snaggly bottom teeth.

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This was totally genius. Thank you. You don't think you're "famous" but...you are absolutely heroes/goddesses of wit to us. My life without dramabeans would be super sad.

No drama episode is complete without a DB recap. DB is the internet equivalent of bacon- it makes bad things tolerable (see BIG) and awesome things even better (see IHYV).

dramabeans 4evah

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Think of another simile, because this one conjures up the image of slaughter house for me.

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In the interest of not violating DB's recently published commenting rules, I will not say what I really think of this reply. I will just decline to change my simile, since I really LOVE BACON.

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I'm sorry. Blame me!

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I am at work and can't listen to it right now. But I am so happy to see this post!! Looking forward (and can't wait) to listening to it later.

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OMG. Totally random.

I see in my inbox, WOO, another podcast... listening listening... OING, me? Totally embarrassing! I am alive, but this is so weird - like showing up to one's funeral as a ghost.

What can I say, I LOVE jb and gf and everybody and I wish that there were 36 hours in a day, and that I could devote that much more time to do things.

1. Yes, family and work are keeping me busy.

2. I miss DB and everybody at DB terribly.

3. These days, I don't watch much of anything k-drama related. I feel like I belong to a past age of k-dramas, and all the new stuff now is just over my head - I don't really get them. The new series feel foreign, feel formulaic, and lack the honesty and creativity that series like Coffee Prince exuded.

4. If I ever got $1B, I would quit my job, buy the rights to Robotech, re-make Robotech as a Korean sci-fi drama series and then convince JB and GF to executive co-produce. Rick Hunter would get Minmei and not Lisa Hayes. Why? Because Rick and Minmei were MFEO. I cannot even begin to tell you how much I want this dream to come true. Until then, I am just grinding away at being a dad, a husband and a lawyer.

5. Finally, I don't see myself as having had a "male" viewpoint with respect to k-dramas. I just had a viewpoint. And to be honest, I tend to be irritated by what I see to be the stylings of what males are supposed to be like in korean media. As I said recently to a close friend, the male role model in k-dramas appears to still be one of two archetypes - (a) the hyper stylized flower boy, and (b) the chauvinistic arrogance (binnie drinking cantata coffee).

Why not simply show humility, equality, soft-speaking, generosity, intelligence, humor, tolerance and a strong sense of duty (but without the makeup, the guy-liner, the slimming cardigans, the aloof emo-tastic attitude)? Why not be strong, without being antagonistic or attitutidistic? Why must every k-drama male character be so hard to relate to (other than, as my friend suggests, UTW)?

Anyhoo. I am so happy to have had a small part of DB's success and growth, and I am eternally grateful to JB and GF for allowing me to express myself and to have fun.

=) *wave*

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What a happy sight! *waves back*

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There is such a hero that possesses all those qualities you wish to see: Boong Do of Queen In Hyun's Man! :)

Nice to see you samsooki!

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You took the words right out of my mouth @ilikemangos. Boong Do has probably been one of the more real likeable kdrama not shouty ones I've kept in my heart. Plus, that cute little smile. Fear not Samsooki! Sometimes there's one that comes through.

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OMG Samsooki!!

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