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I Hear Your Voice: Episode 10

It’s the first episode in a while that isn’t a total heart-stopper, but maybe I should just be grateful for my nerves. Not that it’s a reprieve from the heartbreak, mind you. Oh, there’s still plenty of that. There are big reunions all around, and though we wish it were something other than a murder trial that brought them all together, the worst-case scenario really does come to pass. Now it’s time to find out who’ll come to the hero’s rescue when he’s vulnerable and alone, and at the end of his rope.

Ratings hit another high today at 19.7% (Queen’s Classroom followed with 9.5% and Sword and Flower came in at 6.4%).

 
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EPISODE 10: “Why am I lost searching for painful memories”

Hye-sung races to the police station to see Su-ha for the first time in over a year. Coming to get him at the precinct—some things never change. She runs inside and calls his name, and he looks at her curiously as she checks him for wounds and rattles off worried questions.

Su-ha: “Park Su-ha? Is that my name? Do you know me?”

Oh, hello there, ton of bricks. Nice to see you.

After the wave of initial shock at the fact that Su-ha doesn’t remember her, Hye-sung takes up arguing with the detective that Su-ha is no killer, while the detective says he admitted to the fact that he could have killed someone, because he doesn’t remember. Dude, seriously, that’s what you’re going with?

As he sits silently and watches Hye-sung fight for him, Su-ha thinks to himself: “I’m sorry but I don’t remember that person. Even though she’s fighting so hard for me, that voice, those eyes… I don’t remember them. From what they’re saying, I must’ve killed someone a year ago…”

His eyes start to show panic—is this who he is? The cop says there are plenty of signs that point to premeditated murder, like the fact that Su-ha went after the victim a week before his death with a knife. Don’t you people have to find the rest of the body before you call it murder? Su-ha thinks: “I don’t want to recover my memory. I don’t want to know that I’m that cruel a person.”

But then Hye-sung rages right back that Su-ha is a first-rate student who could have his pick of colleges, a kid who saves other people, and throws himself into harm’s way to protect others. “And he promised! He promised me he would never kill anyone. He keeps his promises. He keeps promises he made ten years ago!!”

He looks over at her and thinks: “But then… I’m curious too… about the me that she’s defending so earnestly… what kind of person was I?”

They’re moved into a visitation room with a plexi-glass wall between them, and Hye-sung thinks at him, asking where he’s been for a year. “You can read my thoughts, right? Answer me.” Nothing. Dammit.

She finally says aloud, “Can’t you hear what I’m thinking?” He looks curiously at her and she sighs, “You’ve lost your powers too?” She decides not to explain, and thinks to herself that maybe this is better and the world has gotten quieter for him now.

He asks how old he is, and when she says twenty, he’s surprised that he’s younger than he looks. Ha. She agrees that his face is rough around the edges for twenty. The sudden formal jondaemal makes her feel awkward, and she points it out.

He’s pretty shocked that he used banmal with a lawyer, and she says he never ONCE used jondae with her, from beginning to end. He hangs his head: “I must be a rude kid with no manners.” Hahahaha. I know the circumstances are dire, but this conversation is cracking me up.

He says meekly that he might be a bad person after all. She asks if he has a scar on his shoulder. “You got that while protecting me.” He wonders why. She blurts, “Why? Because you’re a good person, that’s why!”

She slams her hand on the glass and orders him not to ever say that he’s a bad person or that he might’ve killed someone because it can all be used against him. She goes into fixer mode and plans to bring him fresh clothes so that he makes a good impression, and tells him to brace himself for the things ahead.

He’s going to face a crime scene reenactment, and she tells him to just do exactly as she says. She stays up late to prepare herself with the details of the case, and then in the morning, she breaks her one-year silent treatment of Lawyer Shin and butters him up with iced tea.

She requests to be put on Su-ha’s case, and he doesn’t seem interested in helping her, until she pleads: “No one else knows Park Su-ha as well as I do, and no one else will believe in him like I do.” Awww. He complies gruffly, but smiles to himself to see that spark back in Hye-sung.

So when Su-ha is put in the police van to go back to the crime scene, Hye-sung shoves her way in too, declaring that she’s his lawyer. The detectives all gape, “Are all public defenders like this now?”

She puts a mask on Su-ha’s face and takes off her jacket to cover his handcuffs, and tells him to answer everything with, “I don’t remember.” Once they arrive, it’s a brutal frenzy of reporters and detectives, all screaming and barking orders and accusations. His fear is palpable.

The detectives put a prop knife in his hand and make him stab at the stand-in for the victim, asking horrible questions assuming he’s guilty. Augh, it’s terrifying. But Hye-sung fights through the crowd to stick to his side the whole time, and blocks them from trying to unmask him. She protects him fiercely through it all.

As this goes on, we see it on television as we catch up to Su-ha’s classmates. Sung-bin now works in a nail shop, and Choong-ki is a car mechanic, and of course Kwan-woo is still at his parents’ jjimjilbang. All three stop cold at the news report, and Sung-bin starts to cry.

At the office, Pretty the Paralegal is impressed with Hye-sung’s devotion to the case, which he’s never seen before. Lawyer Shin is reminded of a time when he fought so relentlessly, and a flashback shows us that it was Hwang Dal-joong’s case—his friend now in prison, who was put away by Do-yeon’s father.

Su-ha sits in his holding cell in the dark, flashes of today’s events going by and shaking him to his core. He huddles in the corner and feels the scar on his back as if to remind himself of Hye-sung’s words, and then wonders: “What kind of person am I?”

Do-yeon comes by the office to show Hye-sung all the evidence that’s stacked up against Su-ha. She says she feels indebted to Hye-sung because of her loss in Min Joon-gook’s case, and says she understands why Su-ha would have killed him. She offers up a deal—the best she can do in this circumstance—for a 10-year sentence if he pleads guilty.

She means it sincerely when she says this is a good deal, when the alternative is 20 to life and there’s so much evidence against him. Hye-sung knows she’s serious, and says she’ll think about it.

Pretty the Paralegal goes hiking with Kwan-woo, which is clearly not his idea of a good time. But he uses the opportunity to tell Kwan-woo about Su-ha’s case (in hilariously incoherent gasps which Kwan-woo deciphers in perfect synchronicity, ha). When Kwan-woo wonders if he can get a copy of the case files, he busts them out of his backpack, already prepared. Cute.

Hye-sung headdesks all day over Do-yeon’s plea bargain, crying that she’s always coming around with some new torment cooked up just for her. Lawyer Shin digs up a giant stack of case files and tells her they’re for Hwang Dal-joong’s case, which was very similar to Su-ha’s in that he didn’t remember the night of the murder.

He says that he didn’t take the plea bargain and Dal-joong is spending his twenty-sixth year in prison. But his point is that whichever way she decides to go, this old case will prove to be a good learning tool. She asks if he could go back twenty-six years, would he plead guilty? We don’t get to hear his answer.

Hye-sung goes to see Su-ha, and tells him about the deal. He understands, and asks what he should do. She says they’re going to plead not guilty. He says okay. And then immediately she changes her mind—they’re going to plead guilty, because he could spend the rest of his life in jail. He says okay again.

She yells at him to think before answering, but he says she knows him better than he knows himself, so he’ll let her decide. Whatever it is she chooses, he’ll go with that and take responsibility.

The blind faith is appalling, even coming from him, and she asks if he knows what she is. He answers that she’s a public defender, and that he gets the general feeling of what that is. “When no one else will take my side, you’re the one who will.” Awwwwww. I… have something in my eye.

She’s shocked by his words, and he asks if he’s wrong. She says he’s right, but it’s the part that he doesn’t know that kills me—that she IS that person, but only for him and him alone.

She thinks back to her conversation with Lawyer Shin, and this time we hear his answer—he’s asked himself the same question a million times for the last twenty-six years, but every time his answer is the same. He’d still plead not guilty.

She tells Su-ha that they’re going to plead not guilty, and he nods. He still doesn’t remember anything yet and apologizes for it, but she just holds his hand and says it’s okay. I love the moment when he looks down at her hand—she thinks nothing of it because that’s normal between them, but he’s discovering it for the first time.

She goes for a spin in her revolving door, wondering if she did the right thing and if she can win this, and when she comes around, there’s Kwan-woo smiling back at her. He’s back in his spiffy suits, though I wish he’d keep the glasses. Is it too much to ask for one remnant of his grand dorkiness?

He greets her warmly, though she’s still a little distant with him. He suggests a trial by jury for Su-ha’s case, because a jury is more prone to being swayed and Su-ha is young and a first-time offender. She agrees it’s a smart play.

He says that she’ll need another defense lawyer then, and asks to join the team. He says he’s been living in a hell for the past year, but that he still wants to believe in the law.

She agrees right away to let him join the case, but makes it clear that she doesn’t care what his beliefs are or what the law is or isn’t: what she needs is somebody with the skill to get an acquittal for a guilty man. Dayum. She speaks the truth but it is brutal.

The meaning isn’t lost on him, but he thanks her for letting him help, and she offers up a handshake. He takes it, and notes that it took a year to reach this hand.

Choong-ki goes to visit Su-ha in jail, and struggles with the “relationship” blank on the visitor’s form, finally landing on “friend.” Yay. He tells Su-ha to cut out the jondae, saying they’re classmates, even joking that the prison uniform is fitting for him.

He’s here to deliver Su-ha’s journal, so that it might help him recover his memory. The guard says he’s not allowed to give Su-ha anything, so if he wants to read it, Choong-ki will have to read it to him in little bits each day.

Choong-ki gets nauseated at the thought (he already read some of it and calls it disgustingly touchy-feely) and gets up to leave. But Su-ha calls out to him desperately to ask if he’ll stay, so Choong-ki sits back down and starts to read.

He starts reading the first entry from the third grade in this hilariously deadpan tone, all while inserting his own commentary. I luff this. So much.

Meanwhile, Kwan-woo gets reinstated on a temporary basis just for Su-ha’s case, and Pretty the Paralegal actually does a movie-slo-mo run at him with open arms when he returns. Hee. Sadly for him, Kwan-woo is more interested in getting to work and dodges him. Throw the sidekick a bone, man. Would a running hug kill you?

Sung-bin goes to visit Su-ha, but gets turned away for the umpteenth time because of the rule that he can only have one visitor a day. Turns out it’s because Choong-ki’s been here every day to read more from the journal.

He reads an entry where Su-ha talks about wanting to go to the aquarium with this mystery noona that he keeps writing to in the journal, and laughs calling him a kid. But the mention actually brings back a real memory—just a flash of Hye-sung’s face at the aquarium. Su-ha urges him to continue.

He writes in the next entry that it’s the day of his father’s memorial, and that he always thinks of her especially on that day. He says that she came to the courtroom to rescue him when he was so frustrated and scared that he couldn’t breathe—she made it so that he could breathe again.

Choong-ki asks if this woman he keeps writing to is one woman—the same one over ten freaking years. Su-ha nods, agreeing that it is. I love that they’re deciphering it together. Choong-ki thinks it’s that lawyer noona, and Su-ha agrees, but he can’t remember.

Sung-bin waits outside until Choong-ki comes out to give him a kick in the shins and piece of her mind for taking up all of Su-ha’s visitor time when they’re not even that close. He tells her to give up already, knowing what he does now about Su-ha’s devotion to Hye-sung, and says he’ll never come around.

Sung-bin bursts into tears and screams that she knows it too, and runs off crying. Choong-ki feels like an ass and goes after, which hey, is slight progress since high school, though you’re still kind of pulling on her pigtails to show that you like her.

Hye-sung is back for another consult, and there’s a sticking point that I hope they uncover in the trial—the last thing Su-ha remembers is waking up in that grandpa’s house, and the man said he was a relative, which is a flat-out lie.

Su-ha asks why she’s working so hard—are all public defenders like this, or is he special to her? She pauses, and then answers, “Yes, you are special to me.” But she clarifies that it’s because Min Joon-gook killed his father and her mother, and used the law to go free and turn Su-ha into a killer.

She’s fighting tooth and nail because she needs to win this case—otherwise she’ll stop believing in the law altogether and have to quit her job. So yes, he’s special to her.

He asks what about her, to him? Was she special to him? Did he like her? She hesitates, remembering the kiss. He waits expectantly for her answer, but she says (without making eye contact) that he dislikes her, actually.

He says it sounds like a lie, but she insists it isn’t, and that’s what she hopes is the truth anyway. Augh, don’t say things like that. That’s gonna hurt later.

Kwan-woo finds her sitting in an empty courtroom the day before the trial, and he admits that he’s nervous too because Su-ha’s future rides on their every word.

He tells her he’s going to win this case no matter what, and that once he does, he’s going to ask her again if she’ll be with him. She starts to answer, but he tells her that he hasn’t asked yet, so she can’t answer.

Trial day rolls around and each side prepares for the big day. Pretty the Paralegal hands Hye-sung her scales of justice pin, saying that he’s been saving it for her for a year. She puts it back on.

Su-ha puts on the plain clothes that Hye-sung gave him for the trial, and then suddenly grabs his head. A searing pain brings back another memory: Su-ha and Min Joon-gook, standing by a river. It’s late at night, and Joon-gook cries. Craaaaap.

Su-ha doesn’t know what it means, but it freaks him out, and he’s a ball of nerves when he enters the courtroom. Hye-sung smiles at him and it calms him down, and she thinks to herself, of all the times for him not to have his powers…

The prosecution starts, and as Do-yeon describes the crime, Su-ha starts to have another flash of the crime scene. This time we see Min Joon-gook wince in pain, and Su-ha stagger backwards in shock. Bloody hell.

He starts to panic, and then the judge asks how he pleads. He freezes up, and looks over at Hye-sung who nods to urge him along. So he says not guilty, as they rehearsed… but he doesn’t look convinced that it’s the truth.

As the battle goes back and forth between the defense and the prosecution, we see each side discussing their tactics beforehand. It’s not strictly necessary, but it does reiterate the motivation behind each move. Not that anyone could be confused by your Sesame Street Law, but whatever.

The prosecution goes for violent imagery to make an impact, like Su-ha’s attack on Min Joon-gook caught on camera, or the severed hand. The defense in turn shows a video of Kwan-woo at a butcher shop, hacking a giant hunk of meat to pieces using the same-sized knife found at the scene. It took him seven hours to cut up the body, well outside the time frame.

The defense knows it’s a long shot to find another suspect, but their goal is to provide reasonable doubt, and they suggest two possible suspects—the owner of the fishing dock where the crime took place, and the grandpa who lied and took Su-ha in.

Do-yeon pokes a hole in that right away though, given that both men are too small in frame to have committed the crime. Kwan-woo decides this isn’t going their way and hurries to request a recess to break the prosecution’s rhythm.

The defense team struggles with what to do next, quickly running out of options. Kwan-woo has sent the paralegal to hunt down the person who called to turn Su-ha in, thinking it suspicious that someone who lives so far away in another town could have happened to know exactly where Su-ha was living.

But when he gets there he finds that it’s just an ajumma who runs a fruit stand, and not so much a possible killer. What, like she couldn’t have been tipped off by a third party? And the reason we’re doing this on the day of the trial is?

As Su-ha sits and waits for the trial to reconvene, he has another flash of that night: he’s choking Min Joon-gook, and then he raises his fist to strike him… This is looking bad.

Hye-sung wonders if they need to just cut their losses and plead guilty now, and starts to get desperate that there isn’t any other way to plant a seed of doubt. There aren’t any other suspects, and Laywer Shin sighs that this is just like Hwang Dal-joong’s case. “The Left Hand Murder Case.”

Both Hye-sung and Kwan-woo repeat his words, and they share a eureka are-you-thinking-what-I’m-thinking moment. OH. That took me a minute, but are they thinking that Min Joon-gook could’ve staged a copycat murder having learned of the case when he shared a cell with Dal-joong? That’s smart.

The trial reconvenes and when Hye-sung sees how nervous Su-ha is, she clasps his hand. He looks over at her in surprise and she smiles back at him reassuringly, squeezing his hand.

She gets up to say that there is one possibility that they’ve left out—a suspect who was present at the scene of the crime, had opportunity, and motive. Min Joon-gook. The judge points out the absurdity of fingering the murder victim as a suspect, to which she says:

“The defense contends that Min Joon-gook is still alive.”

Well, DUH.

 
COMMENTS

Well I guess one lackluster ending in ten episodes isn’t the worst track record in the world. But that was a pretty obvious thing to end on, especially when you could’ve saved Su-ha’s flashback for the cliffhanger to make us doubt his innocence. I haven’t nitpicked too harshly when it came to the lawyering on this show because it’s mostly just a platform for character growth and an exploration of moral quandaries, not a tutorial on the legal system. And obviously TV law is going to be about as complex and accurate as, well, TV medicine, but this show sometimes takes the cake for skipping the obvious steps of investigation—more the realm of cops, sure, but if your universe has cops and medical examiners and people testing DNA, then don’t you also have a Bones who can tell you whether or not a hand was cut off a corpse or a living, walking, talking killer? And wouldn’t the first thing you’d want to argue be that the so-called murder victim was never found dead?

I think the particulars of the case are interesting, and we’re emotionally invested because it’s Su-ha, but we either need to spend less time on the case or do a better job with the forensic particulars if we’re going to give it this much screen time. The way the trials are written, it always makes the lawyers look like they’re scrambling for last-minute ideas, which I get for the purposes of narrative surprise, but you also want to put more faith in the main characters’ skill set. I want to trust that you’re going to win because you’re good, not because you got lucky, and right now you’re leaving me somewhere in hope-and-pray-land.

The one thing that keeps it interesting is Su-ha’s vulnerability (so stirring) and his fragmented memory, which is done really well. The memories come back at the worst times, and in pieces that look fairly damning, even to us. I still don’t believe in my heart that he’s a killer, but it’s kind of amazing that he’s in a situation where he believes himself to be guilty with every recovered memory. That’s a great conflict, especially when he’s desperately trying to figure out which person he is, and hoping against hope that he’s the Su-ha in Hye-sung’s eyes, and not the rest of the world’s.

And that I think makes the amnesiac arc worth it (I admit begrudgingly), though I really don’t want it to outlast its usefulness. There are things we gain, like his rediscovery of his past self with Choong-ki (so cute), or the personal struggle to know what kind of person he was. I love that she’s his tether to the good Park Su-ha, despite everything else pointing to the worst. And that’s the setup that gets me—that he was the one who believed in her when no one else did, and now she’s doing the same for him.

Not having his powers along with that is the kicker, because it makes him vulnerable in a way we’ve never seen, where he has to ask for the truth, decipher lies for himself, and take people’s words at face value. Hye-sung can lie to him now, which is a huge reversal in their relationship, where she was always forced to be honest with him by default, and he got to lie whenever it suited him. Now he really has to go by faith alone, and what’s great is that he still trusts her blindly anyway, almost to a fault. I like that in the new dynamic there’s more confusion and searching for clues too, and that Hye-sung communicates through touch what she can’t through her thoughts anymore. I love that constant thread with them—that no matter if he has a superpower or not, their connection is through something other than words.

 
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omg I am toast what is happening.

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the acting by Le Jong-Seok was just heart-wrenching, I want to let out some sort of scream. pressure.
Oh shit and a whole week of pressure now.

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His acting is truly impressive. I thought he was just cute cos his teenage roles must have been easy for him. But in this hour, he body language, his facial muscles, his darting eyes turn him into a different person completely. Wow, what a good actor!

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Extraordinary acting by LJS! He can show viciousness, vulnerability, fear, tenderness and romance.. One of these days, I hope to see sexy but he is cute beyond words to think sexy yet...

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I agree w everything (all the adjectives) but not so much the last phrase.
As I look at him in this series, I keep asking:
Which part of him looks like a kid now? That is a hot young man, a heart throb. The teenage rascal is, to me, so much typecasting, you know, from High Kick, to School, to this. It made perfect sense in Hi Kick; alright in School. But he has grown a lot in height. He is now lanky and broody when he isn't smiling. As soon as they let him show the SEXY, we've got a heart throb!

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Agree about the heart throb statement. I must say that I love the light moustache and the beard. It really gives him something extra special. Definitely not a boy in my book anymore.

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I wonder if they were poking a bit of fun that LJS gets these high school roles when he looks older than the average high schooler in the plexiglass scene with Hye Sung.

I was also thinking that in that first picture of Su Ha's face, it looks like he has a faint cow mustache lol (shaped like "soh" a la Dokkon Jin in Greatest Love).

I would just like to say I was already in love with Su Ha from Secret Garden days ;). He was a heart throb back to me then. Speaking of which, I find it funny how Yoon Sang Hyun seems to have this quality that just attracts male affection. Can we have a Kwan Woo and Pretty the Paralegal OTP :)?

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Absolutely agree! Heartthrob who can act phenomenally. Love that LJS is finally able to extend his acting chops here. Because of his "baby face" he was typecasted into younger, schoolboy roles, albeit good roles.

Now we see him in all his grown-up glory. I also like that this episode moved quickly, as far as the amnesia arc goes. He's already getting bits and pieces of his memory back, and of course, it's the questionable ones that lead him into a great inner struggle of good and evil.

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At KDaddict: Agreed.

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seriously right? this is my first time seeing him act and he's been really great. it helps that his cast members are skilled as well.

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I am very partial to this actor. So, if you say he is already sexy, then you are probably right! LOL. He makes me feel warm in a protective way but does not make me feel hot. May be because I am really old. Perhaps to those in their 20's, he is sexy. Well, I am glad! Good for him and them! As for me, I simply adore him. First saw him in Secret Garden and thought he was really cute. Was very curious who he was and while googling it, found School 2013. He was great and I fell in love (unfortunately, not in a hot way but in a cute way). For some reason, I wanted him to be gay and live with the best friend. LOL. I think he has the ability to create chemistry with his costar no matter male or female. It is a great thing and I am hoping to enjoy many more of his characters in time to come. But for now, as Suha, he is doing a fantastic job and I can not imagine anyone else playing this character as well as him.

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I am Not saying he is Already Sexy. What I am saying is that He is all grown up, ready to portray a grown man, and show some Sexy when they give him the right script and role, i.e. I think he has outgrown teenage roles already. ;)

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"...no matter male or female..."

And this is why the Heungsoon and Oska/Taesun pairings were born.

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AH! School 2013 - I also liked the bromance but besides that I think he really had awesome chemistry with everyone.
And in the beginning really strangely strong with the teacher (at first I thought they wanted to make a second Biscuit Teacher and Star Candy and team him up with Jang Na Ra.....until the bromance came) - he happens to look a little bit like Jung Il Woo....maybe it's the face that makes him compatible to be a noona killer.
(Before someone cries out...I said JUST A LITTLE BIT like Jung Il Woo, okay?)

I think it was clear from the beginning that he will be the main love interest for her.
And just for the record, being reliable is a HUGE SEXY POINT for me. As soon as someone has that they are mature in my eyes. Being reliable is by nature sexy. That's why everyone ends up falling for the second male love interest....sooner or later. They are mostly all reliable folks. And if you're old enough to know how sexy that is you will be a goner. Just sayin'.

Well whatever, he had me long ago in High Kick 3 anyway. His talent became pretty obvious there and I didn't get why people said he was just flashy and pretty as a flower boy and not really skilled at acting. CHARM is a skill. Didn't you know?

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It's definitely an age factor thing. LJS is one year older than me, so to me, he was this cute guy but now... After is episode, I now see a man. I think that maybe it's because of his babyface that whenever he takes on dark roles, it just looks so twisted, right, and hot. Haha. I seriously think that darker roles suits him more than bubbly roles.

On a side note - because of Kim woo bin's masculine features, watching him take on a very bubbly role would be extremely different.... But a pleasure to the eye and heart.

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He's just been flawless all through this drama (and I say this as someone who isn't biased, I didn't find his School 2013 self attractive but there is no denying that the role was extremely well-played and those who dare to call him 'just a pretty face' like the wooden JYP idol-actors are laughably wrong)

And this is actually his best role yet, School 2013 really showed off his ability to emote with his eyes and have chemistry with his costars (most of all Kim Woo-bin), but here, he is the main male lead and he's just taken it to another level. That whimper he let out after stabbing Hye-sung last episode.....he's nearly destroying me.

@Eulaliee - if you want to see Kim Woo-bin in a bubbly dork role, I suggest Vampire Idol. (it's unsubbed, but he plays an adorable, dorky vampire. And also has fantastic chemistry with Lee Yubi.)

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I so understand you! I'm in my late 20's, I'm kinda in love with Lee Jong Seok but in a cute way and not in a sexy way =)

I think, in I'll always be in love in a sexy way to Kim Soo Hyun (Dream High/MoonSun/The Thieves)

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I left out an "e" but now I think that suits well. Le like a french particle... Le Jong-Seok. Fitting.

and pretty the Paralegal reminds me the human puppy in Kimi Wa Petto. woof, woof!

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urgghhh the infuriating speculations by the police are like 19th century and remind me of the beginning scenes of Sleepy Hollow. and I want to stand up for truth and justice like Ichabod Crane

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omg, and how his eyes flickers!!! it makes him look so vulnerable

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In the first few episodes I want Kwan Woo and Hye Seong together... but now... oh my... I like Hye Seong and Park Soo ha better. lol

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oh man i've always wanted Hye Seong and Soo ha to be together!

what do you guys think? will it be Soo ha or Kwan woo at the end? How many episodes are there anyway? 16? 20?

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her devotion to So Ha is growing though, while he doesnt remember.
what I am afraid of is that she gets him free and then the murderer kills him. that can´t happen...

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Why this is a very good drama.
- It has a good, rich, under story on human emotions.

Supernatural powers and bad justice system aside, it is the dynamics of two very lonely and very different people thrown together by circumstances sustaining each other.

A high achieving high school student, no family, with a gift/disability that keeps him separated from close emotional contact with others.

A loser attorney who has no faith in others, expects the worst from people, child of a convict, raised by a single parent, living behind the emotional walls she has built, with her only friend in the world being her mother (who she loses but still sends texts to).

Su-ha's violent outbursts and rages show that he would probably have become a criminal himself without his quest to protect Hye-Sung focusing and grounding him.

Hye-Sung only seemed to come to out from behind her wall and interact well with others and her clients after Su-ha came to her. Since he could hear her thoughts, she could not block him out. Hye-Sung did not even notice anything good about Kwan-woo until after Su-ha had already started tearing those walls down around her.

Su-ha desperately needs Hye-Sung and is lonely
Hye-Sung desperately needs Su-ha and is lonely

That is what is touching so many hearts. However it turns out in the end, neither one could have been what they will be without the other. No other person in their lives will ever affect and change them as much as they have each other. Just friends, siblings, or lovers, whatever end there is, that is not going to change.

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As it established that Hye-Sung was "child of a convict?"

And there are people, very few, who go to prison for righteous reasons.

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GAH, SOO HA IS SO FRIGGIN VULNERABLE!! All he has is faith and his talent for picking up on nuances in a situation. He seems like a different person altogether now that his Dark Passenger has momentarily gone missing.

On the upside, it's nice seeing him less than superhuman for once, to become a child again now that he's officially a man.

It also tugs at the heartstrings to see him slowly falling in love with Hye Sung all over again. His feelings toward her seem all the more pure and devoted.

SPEAKING OF DEVOTION, I really do forgive Cha Byun completely and can't help but swoon when he returns in a suit. (Nice suits do that, don't they?) His devotion is just as pure, sweet and earnest. I also love that he's come back, not out of guilt, but a sense of duty and an impassioned need to prove to himself that his principles and faith in the legal system were not wrong to begin with.

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Like what Hye-sung once said...

The suit makes the man. ;)

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@Aliiice
About Lawyer Cha, I was surprised when you said you already forgave him completely. Out of loyalty to Hye-sung and her mother, he's still dead to me, but I admit I've softened only because he's willing to help defend Su-ha. For all that Hye-sung tries to be a good lawyer, she's still pretty inept, so I've got doubts she could win without help.

I think everyone on dramabeans knows Min-gook is alive, so the end really was more of a "finally! you realized" than a cliffhanger. Are we so inundated with cop/lawyer shows in the US that nothing I Hear Your Voice pulls out in the courtroom will surprise us? I think so. That said, I truly hope that Su-ha's trial ends next episode and we get him freed, because Min-gook has had a whole year to think, which can't be good.

Much love to LJS - his acting was my favorite element of this episode. Just a look and I know what his character is feeling. I hope he gets his memory back soon - I'm enjoying the range he has in this role and I know his feelings toward Hye-sung regarding accidentally stabbing her are unresolved. Please writers, let him remember soon! I miss Su-ha.

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@Ennayra -- I can't help it! It's how I'm built! If someone is earnestly doing his/her best, realizes s/he'd done wrong, sincerely apologies and tries to make up for it by being Beyond Awesome, my heart just melts!

No way do I want for Cha Byun to end up with Jjang Byun, but I can't help but admire his strength and his show of character:

1) He's taken it upon himself to punish himself for his err in judgment and also did a lot of deep soul searching during that time, withOUT having to turn to the dark side.

2) He completely and totally accepts that Hye Sung feels a lot of resentment and bitterness towards him, and that he had, in some way, betrayed her.

3) He's not desperately clinging to her. He allowed her her space and in the meantime took the care to clean himself up and get back to work with a kind of blind faith, fear and devotion he'd never experienced before.

4) He takes risks, and wouldn't do so unless he was 1,000% sure that he is the best kind of guy for Hye Sung: has a good job, a good haircut, infinite patience and understanding, intelligence, a deep fanboy love for her, a strong heart and a good soul.

5) When she disappoints him, he challenges her to become a better person in a very adult way.

What happened, happened. There was no malice, just a lot of horrible and unexpected events that, for Cha Byun, were completely unforeseeable. I still luff him. And perhaps that love is compounded by the knowing that he is, ultimately, not the guy for Hye Sung.

Whatever happens, I do hope our Earnest-Forever-Optimist has a happy ending. He's endured heartbreak/disillusionment and came out of it with a stronger sense of duty, responsibility and faith.

Oh, and yes! Most definitely, it was not a cliffhanger, but a "finally! You realized!"

Though this eppy seemed to have disappointed many, I still found it deeply emotionally satisfying.

Who are we when we're stripped of all our defenses? And what are we willing to do when we know that individual strength is not enough to win a case that is a matter of life and death? What are the compromises we make? What do we find ourselves asking, and begging, after we find that we just don't have the luxury of pride?

BTW, who else is in love with our primadonna, soft-hearted, borderline histrionic judge? I loved the way he fluffed out his robes as he sat down and chastised Hye Sung turning this case into a public spectacle, all whilst primping in front of a cutesy mirror and wearing a Biore pore strip like a bashfully vain ajummah? Or the OVERLY shocked and dramatic way he asked, "HOW CAN IT BE MIN JOON GOOK? He is the VICTIM, don't you know!"

Bwahahaha. Seriously. It was like watching an ajummah yelling at a telenovela/drama after experiencing a sudden (but thoroughly enjoyed) upset.

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It took until this episode to realize where I'd seen the judge before. He was Hwang - the book shop owner that Kim Yoon Hee/Yoon Shik did the transcriptions and stuff for in Sungkyunkwan Scandal! :-P

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Thank you for the recap!

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Show, why do you do this to me :(?

Surprisingly there were a lot of cute moments in this episode which is totally awesome with the complete on-edge episode yesterday.

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It's here!!! been waiting for this all morning. thanks a lot!

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Well, they finally arrived at the idea that maybe Min Joon Gook is alive (come on, all they found was a hand) and framed Soo Ha. It only took them an entire episode to figure that one out.

I love what this drama does with all the side characters too.

Thank you for the recap!

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You and I were typing the same comment at the same time!
My comment included another pt, so it was a bit longer and took another min or so to appear! ;)

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I know right? however, it was actually nice to see some decent lawyer stuff.
one thing I'm scared of is SooHa's tandom flashbacks. what if he thinks thay he killed him and confess without completely knowing the truth?
suspense suspense

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people need to stop harping on how they declared Min Jong-gook dead after "only finding a hand."... because that is an actual thing. A person actually can be declared dead, even with no body (it's called "death in absentia" but some people may have heard the term "assumed dead.") How the person is believed to have died (suicide, murder, as a POW, etc) is part of the (for lack of a better word) process for declaring someone to be "legally" dead, so it's totally valid for him to be on trial for murder. JUST SAYING (really, the only thing thats questionable is that it happened so soon. Usually a person won't be declared dead in this manner unless there's no evidence proving that they could be alive for several years. This happened in what, a couple days? But hey, it's a drama so...)

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the reason why everyone's harping on it is exactly because it is way too soon to declare someone dead when the only body part found is the hand!

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i agree that it's too soon, but girlfriday wrote, "Don’t you people have to find the rest of the body before you call it murder?" which, as my previous comment demonstrated, is NOT the case at all. i saw several comments written in a similar vein from the previous episode recap, as well, so mostly i was responding to those sorts of comments.

again, like you said, it was way too soon. it would've been slightly more realistic if they had declared him missing and then dead a year or so later (still not TOTALLY realistic but slightly more realistic lols)

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Without any other circumstantial evidence it would be way too soon, but

There is the telephone with tons of calls from Joon Gook's sworn enemy

and

the bloody knife with his sworn enemy's fingerprint all over it.

Put yourself in the police shoes, and consider the situation from the point of view of someone who cares about Joon Gook.

If my friend's hand turned up without his body, and the rest of the evidence was around and his enemy was missing--I would demand that the police convene a murder investigation. I imagine you would too.

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In the US, 7 years disappearance can lead to a death certificate, but a murder charge with a body usually requires evidence that a death occured (eg, massive blood loss). The hand alone means that it should have been much harder than it was made to look to turn this into a murder charge. This isn't as atrocious in the forensics world as the mother's case (where a skull that been bashed in with a wrench can be mistaken for one that hit a counter corner -- the fracture patterns would be completely different) or 무정도시's 'suicide' (though at least that was explained as a cover up, never mind that the forensics team's first thought on removing the body was suicide -- just so wrong)

But the lamentable forensics on this show can be overlooked in favor of the wonderful feels it gives us. And they've been doing a wonderful job there. I need this next episode NOW!

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I don't think the complaints are based on it being impossible to declare someone dead on that basis. It's more a combination of it being way too early to reach that conclusion, as you said, and also that most of us saw the big "What if he's the culprit, not the victim" twist coming from miles away.

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"This happened in what, a couple days? "

No, it's been a year since the hand was found. It was found shortly after Su Ha disappeared (a week after the stabbling incident in the parking garage, I believe), and he's been gone a year when they find him at the ajusshi's farm.

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yay! thank you so much GF! never have i refreshed a page this much since Dream High days. this episode has unnerved me so much! heart pumping episode.

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i agree well with you about the lawyering side... it was made comical, tsk! much more of you are an avid fan of CSI and the like, my eyes would have puffed out already. :) but, it never diminishes the value of the drama for me... especially now that su-ha freakin' vulnerable. su-ha in prison huddled and afraid just breaks my heart. this drama just knows how to pull my heart strings. i am so in awe with lJS with his acting. those eyes of his are really doing a great job. i also love the last part when hye sung puts her hand on his and he's a little surprised but then he grab hold of it like it is his lifeline, which actually at this time, it really is! :)

another thing i want to point out that i love about IHYV is that we see, whatever happens to su-ha, the connection to hye-sung will always be there. it is like that they have been fated. i am so warmed by the fact that even with the loss of his memory, his heart still recongnizes hye sung! that just makes me a puddle of goo!

if you really want to enjoy this drama, never mind the lawyering and the police aspect... think of them as a... comedic plot device? lols... sorry to others who thought otherwise. :)

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I tend to feel the same about the lawyering aspect of this show. But I found it interesting nonetheless when I saw a video on YouTube, about how the law details in this drama are true to real life more so than in previous series. I have no idea if links are allowed in posts, so I'll refrain from linking for now. Also, the writer supposedly derived much of the criminal cases and events sprinkled throughout the show, from actual ones that occurred in both Korea and overseas. I'm no law student so I can't say anything about the matter, but it was still interesting when a real attorney appeared to confirm those points. Either way, my stance on it is the same as GF's - it's more of a platform that allows room for character and plot development.

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I think the term used in Hollywood is "inspired by actual events". Assuming the same thing in K-dramaland, that means that "A" happened, and "Z" happened, but everything in between is pure fiction.

What that means is that 98% of the story is made up. And to be fair, unless you are watching a series devoted to courtrooms, you are not going to get anything even close to in-depth legal realism. Quite simply you have to take a lot of shortcuts to further the plot.

My issue with most K-dramas is that they tend to not even address some very obvious issues, in this series it is the awful non-existent forensics. There is a whole lot of obvious Epic Fails - such as the fact that unless he used a big hammer he could never had cut through the bones with such a small knife.

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it may be of interest to you if you don't know already, but the writer of this show also wrote dream high!

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REALLY? WUAH!

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Amazing, my last watched drama was Dream High, and I was puzzled by how common relationships are - it was not very clear for a long time who Suzy will stay with. And I can't figure it out yet now as well.

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and the su-ha/choong-ki bromance is just pure love!

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Haha honestly. Choong-ki and Lawyer Choi were cracking me up this episode. When Choong-ki put down that they were sworn rivals and Lawyer Choi ran in slow motion to hug Kwan-woo. Bwhahaha bromance!

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Choong-ki was just jealous of SH cos his own crush Sung Bin has a crush on SH. Now we know he doesn't actually hate SH, except for his superior looks. He says to SH, who is behind the glass: "So, it's the clothes all along. You don't look so cool in These clothes". Ha ha ha.

I think it helps that before SH went away, he advised CK to tell SB abt his feelings. And after reading SH his journal entries, CK now knows for sure that SH has no interest in SB. A bromance is brewing!

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Ha, that thwarted bromance hug was just hilarious. And I was mixed about Choong-ki's reading of the diary. On the one hand the color commentary was hilarious, on the other I was like "Don't mock Su-ha's memories!" Overprotective much? :)

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I loved the vignettes of absolute bromance, too! One, heartbreakingly and humorously unrequited and the other so begrudging, you can't help but notice that JoongKi's nothing but a softie on the inside.

The diary moments were as funny as they were sweet. As asinine and fratty-obnoxious as JoongKi can be, he, in his own way, stepped up to help SuHa out with a kind of devotion he's never shown to anybody before.

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I think Chong Ki will come to respect Suha and his memories. I hope to see him love SH when he gets to know him, as Sung Bin does, as we do!

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"I think Chong Ki will come to respect Suha and his memories."

I CONCUR. I think, though it's like pulling teeth, reading about what a stand up, lonely guy SuHa is, he won't be able to help himself. Ya know, becoming a card-carrying member of Team SuHa.

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Well, he did say he didn't know he was such a fu**ing romantic. such a LOL moment.

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LOL seriously! it brought a laugh out of me...after tears and hand clenching from all the suspense and heartbreak in the past and this episode.

I can't wait to see how Choong Ki's daily diary visits leads to a friendship with Soo Ha, however much begrudgingly it grows to become so. Haha.

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It's already like Choongki can't resist the puppy eyes haha. I just loved the way Suha went "can't you do that for me?" when asking him to come everyday to read, and how Choongki just sat back down.

Already he's invested in helping Suha, from knowing how Suha survived following the ordeal with his murdered father, to guessing the Noona is Hyesung. He probably thought of the day Suha found Hyesung through the newspapers, aw.

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same here, they're like the comic reliefs for this episode!

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I really like Choong ki and how the writer thought ahead of time to have him take his stuff(aww) and then bring it to him to jail(aww) but then to come everyday to read it to him?(double aww)
Then seong bin yells at him for hogging su-ha up everyday. It's just really sweet because just an episode ago hye sung was saying su-ha was such a lonely boy. This episode proved the opposite. He has hyesung and lawyer cha fighting for his life and seong bin and choong ki visiting him everyday.

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Yes, he's getting to live his life, have friendships and fall in love again (even though he's in jail), and it's all because he no longer has the Curse of his superpower.

I like how they set it up first with him trying to throw his life away (to protect Hye-sung), then ending up having this second chance at life.

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Your're glad that his superpower is gone? Why? Do you think it hindered him? Why? I think it has so much potential.

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I think it certainly had its uses (like knowing the twins were joint principal offenders), and maybe he enjoyed it, overall. But it set him apart and made him a lonely figure all his life, because he lived in 'such a noisy world' and couldn't tell anyone about it.

And if he did, they usually didn't believe him (like when he tried to testify in court, saying 'I can hear what the defendant is thinking!'). And/or they think he's a freak/whacko.

His superpower certainly hasn't helped much in thwarting Min Joon-gook's evil plans. In the cops' eyes, SH is the violent one, not MJG.

The Hye-sung and Su-ha combo in court was interesting because it was a way for SH to harness his powers in court effectively for the first time - by pushing HS in the right direction, and HS using her legal training to apply her arguments in an 'acceptable' manner. (Of course, that just makes her a terrible lawyer!)

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There are lonely ones everywhere in dramaland. The great thing is when they find people who love and accept them as they are.
His superpower was a part of him that shaped his personality and influenced his actions. It wasn't all that bad. At least he always knew the truth and wouldn't be fooled. Which can turn out bad - look at Kwan-woo.
And certainly it's the reason why they called this drama 'I hear your voice'. Why would it vanish? I liked it...so...much.... because it gives everything a different touch. Even the love story itself (since we are really used to love storys, we always need something fresh)
...well maybe I'm just selfish, but I really liked how they handled it.

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I'm less in love w this ep than previous ones. The courtroom drama slows things down. It took us 3 mins. to deduce that Min is still alive; it took them a whole ep.

But when HS and Suha sit across the table from each other in the detention hall, HS is telling him abt the two strategies: plead guilty and most likely get 10 years vs plead not guilty and maybe get a min. of 20 years; Suha keeps going, "Yes I see. I give you the right you choose. I'll live with the consequences." I get very choked up inside!

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I agree -- there wasn't much tension in terms of plotting, but there was plenty heat and sweetness in terms of emotional conflict and reveals. The one thing this show does so freaking well is show how profoundly the characters love and care about one another, from the Pretty Paralegal to the curmudgeony Lawyer Shin.

Ah, one thing about courtroom drama, since you mentioned it. “The Left Hand Murder Case.” I'm wondering (wasn't Min Joon Gook right-handed?) if perhaps MJG had sliced off his left hand with his dominant right hand to set Suha up.

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Lawyer Shin's old case fr 26 years ago:
So Do Yeon's father was the presiding judge. He knew the guy was innocent but the evidence was against it. So he took in the daughter who had nobody to look after her.
BTW, Do Yeon looks very pretty in this ep, esp. in the elevator w paralegal.

Paralegal carrying all those files up hill and passing out on the hill was also funny.

I agree we need and enjoy these light hearted touches, but it's still frustrating to see them argue abt unimpt points in court-- so much beating abt the bush, when it was so obvious that Min has had a hand in the surfacing of his own hand.

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"...when it was so obvious that Min has had a hand in the surfacing of his own hand."

Teehee. ♥

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wait sorry what -- the judge took in the daughter ? did i miss something ?!?!

(i jumped to some crazy idea that HS was the daughter that and hence her living with do yeon from a young age - but then it was revealed that the wife/ mother was supposedly killed so that doesnt work out .. phew)

when was it revealed that judge so took in the daughter ?

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I am confused about that also, I don't recall any such revelation, or even hint about that.

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Do Yeon wants to put that guy who was Min's cell mate back on the stand and tells her father about it. That guy had a daughter 25 years ago that he lost or misplaced or was taken from him. Do Yeon's Dad realizes who the guy is and tells her not to put him back on the stand to testify against Min and furthermore never to mention her again.

Being that he's the same actor that took Lee Soon Shin from Song My Ryung I'm betting he took the daughter not because he threw the guy in jail but he wanted him and made some sort of deal with someone to get him framed big time, and he cheated just as much as his daughter did in school. Although in his defense he seems somewhat righteous but at the same time he did back his daughter up when he knew she was lying through her teeth about the fireworks.

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Agree wholeheartedly.
I couldn't care less about all the courtroom stuff or the forensics and whatnot -- this show never really set out to make a tutorial on how to be a lawyer and how courtroom stuff works. But it has characters who i'm starting to really care about, and not just our main characters. The emotional conflict is something that i find lacking in alot of the other shows i'm currently watching. Voice helps fill that void.

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What do you mean "Voice helps fill that void"?

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Maybe (I Hear Your) Voice fills that void for dramas that need emotional conflict. :)

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Yes, thanks mary.
Sorry! i meant I hear your voice helps fill that void.
sometimes typing it out is such a handful :d

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TQ, Mary. So now we r calling this drama 'Voice"? ;)

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I just remember GF and JB referring to this show as 'Voice' in their podcast so i picked up on that cause it was also easier to just talk about it without typing out the title everytime :P

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I think "Voice" sums it up pretty well. IHYV ... I never liked those abbreviations. Even when I know the show, it takes some time to figure out what it means.
Though one has to be careful, I bet there is already a drama that has that name. ....it's like "Coffee House" and "Coffee Prince"...dare to confuse it.

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It took the audience 3 minutes to figure out what it took the lawyers an episode to deduce.

If Hamlet had killed his stepfather immediately after his father's ghost told him what Claudius had done, there would be no play.

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I think my irritation with how long it took them to figure it out is a testament to how great the pacing has been on this show. We got there in the space of one episode, after all, with lots of interesting character stuff happening on the side. Other dramas could easily have stretched that reveal out for another episode or three.

That doesn't make me less annoyed at the ridiculous, slapdash way things get investigated - the DAY OF THE TRIAL and you guys are hunting down basic leads? - but it does make it easier to tolerate.

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Agreed - while I am here mostly for the characters and their interaction, those "WTF Moments" are distracting and annoying - I sit there for three minutes thinking about why the hell are they just NOW getting around to following basic leads up?

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Exactly Ash! I think one ep to figure it out is pretty good in cute-and-fun-and-sweet-and-emotional-and-balanced-dramaland...right?!

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This episode was a bit slow for me but I didn't mind considering how crazy the last episode was. I really appreciated the light hearted moments in this episode.

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If we didn't slow down from last episode i don't know how my heart would have handled it.

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Haha yup agreed. If any more crazy things happened, my mind would have exploded haha.

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Me too. I needed a break from the breakneck pace to be able to breathe properly.

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It's a good way to see things. It's not that it's a slow episode: It's just that the previous ones were just crazy and here we can breathe a little.

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Agreed. The momentum of crazy we've been getting from the stabbing and the crying to the courtroom stuff is much needed, whether we liked it or not.

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My thoughts exactly!

And Law and Order lover that I am, I did find the court scenes exciting. Not because we know about murder court cases in front of a jury, but because our lawyers did not.

Finally teamwork. And we get the backstory about De Eon's biological dad and why Lawyer Shin always visits him.

What got me was to see how hero treated to a perp walk and treated like a criminal on the news. And it's a confused kid being treated like crap by the media. That really affected me. Hadn't seen that done so effectively in a drama. I found myself wondering if there was a recent case in Korea where something like this happened and the dramawriters were subtly using that as a sub-text.

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What? Whose dad?

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Min Gook's cellmate is probably Prosecutor's dad.

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...took me a while to get that...I didn't think about it at all... xD Maybe because I watched all the eps in the last 2 days so I didn't really think about it...but seems pretty logical now that you say it.

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Hey I remember this movie called "Sympathy for lady vengeance" where they had scenes like that...taking the criminal to the scene to investigate (including all the media) how it could have looked...really weird practice. Only koreans do that right?!

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I think there are times in trials in the USA where the jury is taken to the crime scene. But I don't think the re-enactment would be allowed.

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Wow this show is just amazing. I am so happy right now...and so tense! >.<

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Now, we've to wait a Whole week! Fri thru Tues have lost their color since a couple weeks ago.

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'... lost their color...'

Absolutely agree with you :)

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Hey! Friday is Monstar time! Well...it's not coloful in a colorful way...but still.

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I still have some issues with the credibility of some of the legal stuff in this drama. That said, I did not want this episode to end, I was totally invested. Lee Jong-suk just turned Su-ha into a different person, really enjoying his work.

I also like that a couple of episodes ago they dropped whatever filter they were using to shoot the Nerd Lawyer Kwan-woo to make him look younger-also tuning down his makeup. He looks more real now. Is the assistant guy crushing on Kwan-woo or what lol

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The legal stuff in K dramas!!! It ranges from laughable to downright annoying. Sometimes I think their writers r idiots, or they think we r all idiots to go for it, and if neither is the case, then S Korea has a strange and scary legal system.

My wish for this Christmas: It'd be really nice if sb who knows abt SK law could shed some light and relieve us from our collective head-scratching once and for all!

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The legal/forensic stuff is driving me INSANE. I feel like this writer has a lot of emotional intelligence but isn't so big on the whole factual research thing. There are LOADS of good shows about lawyers, forensics and cops as well. Don't get me wrong, I love this show, but watching it when it's doing the forensic and legal proceedings is like being in someone else's car and not seeing a pot hole. And then hitting it.

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Well put. I'd say that this is the only hole in the drama so far.

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omg, THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT. This episode was so painful to watch and I pray this is not the way the legal system actually works in Korea or anywhere. The ridiculousness of law professionals overlooking all this key and obvious information was overwhelming. You wouldn't go into a blind date this underprepared, much less a murder trial!

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thanks for the recap.

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This series seems to be powered by revenge Joon Gook.

I think the story ultimately will be about seeking state justice instead of personal revenge.

1- We still have no idea why Joon Gook went after SuHa's father. Earlier I had assumed he was hired for a job, but there has not been a hint of him being connected to someone more powerful.

I want to know how Lawyer Shin's client/friend, Deo-Yeon, Deo-Yeon's adoptive father and the murder long ago ties into the attack on Suha's Dad.

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MJG is EXACTLY the kind of villain that The King 2 Hearts SHOULD have had: sociopathic, but with dimension, inner conflict and a hint of a soul.

"1- We still have no idea why Joon Gook went after SuHa’s father. Earlier I had assumed he was hired for a job, but there has not been a hint of him being connected to someone more powerful." --- you know, I was just thinking about this, how this all is supposed to connect.

The whole Hwang DalJoong story as the biological father of DoYeon must have a clear parallel to SuHa's case as well. Sometimes I wonder if it's somehow connected to the death of SuHa's dad, but then I think about how him and Min Joon Gook have been cellmates for years and don't seem to know of each other from before their incarceration.

I'm also interested in the back story concerning DoYeon's adoptive father: did he adopt her to spite Hwang DalJoong, and if so what was his point? Was it that he wanted to prove something to Hwang DalJoong, and if so, then what? Or is there an ironic twist wherein which he was directly involved with the framing of Hwang DalJoong.

Now my telenovela side is coming out and imagining that Hwang DalJoong's former wife had an affair with the judge, who adopted her daughter after mistakenly believing that Hwang DalJoong killed the wife.

Can't help it. I mean, around eppy 1, I had incorrectly guessed that the Corrupt Judge had an affair with HyeSung's mother, making HyeSung and DoYeon half sisters. Alas, that proved to be farrrrr from the truth.

I don't know! Can't really figure it out! But I honestly and earnestly hope it all connects in a satisfying way.

I find it interesting that SuHa didn't have a mom, HyeSung didn't have a dad and DoYeon's biological mother is also not in the picture.

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Deo yeon's adoptive father is not altruistic. if anything i'd see the adoption as a way of holding Deo yeon hostage.

The performance between the judge and Hye Sung mom suggested a connection that made me think Deo yeon and Hye Sung could have had deeper connections.

we still dont know Hye Sung's father's story. i don't remember hearing what happened to him.

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Personally, I feel that Hye Sung's dad's story is inconsequential to the show. If I remember correctly, Hye Sung's mom mentioned he had passed away. In ep 1 when she was telling the judge that Hye Sung hardly cried, not even when her dad died, only when she felt aggrieved.

I'm leaning more towards the direction that the judge had an affair with Dal-joong's wife, even though I'm keeping my fingers crossed tightly that the writer will surprise us with something else. Not really a fan of makjang dramas.

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Remember how Deo yeon's dad questioned her about whether she had told the truth or not, I'm thinking now..."Was he wondering about her genes? Had she gotten a bad seed from her biological father, despite the good righteous nurturing he gave her?"

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" I feel that Hye Sung’s dad’s story is inconsequential to the show."

I would have, too, but the writers made it a point to assert that Hye Sung is just like her father. I think it was in eppy 1 that the moms was like, "I believe in you. I know you're telling the truth because you're just like your father. You always do the right thing."

While it could have just been a red herring, if her dad's story was truly inconsequential I'm not so sure they would have made it such a point that she is her father's daughter in the first eppy.

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I'm thinking the hand was cut off by accident, since they fought at a fishery. There was probably some machine or other sharp object there while they fought. And the bad guy took advantage of that.

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You could be right about it being an accident, but at this point I'm more inclined to think he did it on purpose. One of the memories Su-ha had, he had this somewhat horrified look of disbelief (admittedly my own interpretation) on his face as he was looking at Min Joon Gook and I immediately thought to myself that that was the moment where he cut it off and was telling Su-Ha part of his evil plan.

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Very observant. I need to go watch that again.

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"I immediately thought to myself that that was the moment where he cut it off and was telling Su-Ha part of his evil plan." -- AHHHHHH, YOU'RE SO RIGHT!

I mean, it takes a right hand to cut off the left. And it must have horrified SuHa to see that MJG would actually go that far!

I'm so deathly curious about where Min Joon Gook is. His tears in the flashback seem to demonstrate some kind of true regret. Maybe it was another moment of conflict, like right before he dumped HS's Super Mom's birthday meal down the toilet.

Also, why did the grandpa take in/kidnap SuHa and tell him he was his nephew? Was it a strange parting gift from MJG?

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Good point on the tears! I hadn't fully processed through that one. I definitely think there is more to MJG than pure evil and I can't wait to delve into what drove him to become this way. I thought it was such an interesting moment when he was taunting Su-ha in yesterday's episode about becoming just like him. There was such a self-awareness in that; that his acts are not just those of someone who is mentally disturbed, but someone fully aware of his choices and their consequences, who is nearly beyond caring, but can't quite lose the last speck of his humanity. It's almost like he really wanted Su-ha to join him in that misery so he'd feel less alone or justified in his decisions. This makes him pretty darn scary in my book. Not quite Story of a Man Chae Do Woo scary, but close.

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i don't think the severing of the hand was an accident. I'm sure Min Joon Gook did it deliberately to make sure his perverted game ended with a win for him and a loss for Suhal and Hye-Sung. And I'm sure he told Suha what he was doing and why he was doing it.

Last episode Suha said if Suha killed Joon Gook, Suha would be a murderer and Joon Gook would be dead. If Joon Gook killed him Joon Gook would be a murderer. Either scenario would have been fine with Suha, because both outcomes meant Hye-Sung would be safe.

Hye-Sung telling Suha not to kill in front of Joon Gook gave Joon Gook the advantage.

He knew that Suha would not kill him, if he had another option.

By severing him hand, he made Suha a murder, while keeping his life.

He could then torment Hye-Sung after SuHa is convicted that her mother's instruction to her, and her instuction to Suha cause Suha his freedom and will cause Hye-sung her life.

There is no doubt that he is out there watching. and will soon make his presence known.

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Orrrrrrrr (sorry, my inner speculationist is coming out), I'm wondering if the severing of the hand WAS an accident, in the way that SuHa's stabbing of HyeSung was a accident.

In the flashbacks, SuHa looks shocked. MJG has actual, sincere-looking tears of remorse or heartbreak.

I mean, it's interesting they chose a fishery as the Site of Mysterious Incident. If it's a fishery/cannery, then there's a lot of sharp equipment and during a struggle, accidents can happen.

The thing is, the hand was severed a little too cleanly, don't you think? I mean, to have dismembered it, SuHa would have had to SAW THROUGH BONE, which isn't very easy, especially with a switchblade.

You need something serrated, like a saw. Or an electric turkey cutter.

Granted, it's a Kdrama (and hence they should have found both Hye Sung's and SuHa's blood on the knife hilt or blade, it's very hard to completely get rid of after it dries, even with rubbing alcohol), but none of it adds up.

Professional, industry grade equipment though? Saws through bone quite easily.

I mean, I'm pretty damn sure Min Joon Gook is alive. But I'm not quite so sure that he's still targeting SuHa and HyeSung out of revenge. He looked way too upset in the flashback.

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Or those could be tear of pain when his hand came off! Either by accident or by his own design. I'll bet it's the latter. That's why Suha looks so shocked.

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"Or those could be tear of pain when his hand came off! Either by accident or by his own design. I’ll bet it’s the latter. That’s why Suha looks so shocked."

Somehow I doubt that. I mean, this is a guy who's laughing when SuHa's kicking his ass and he's spitting up blood. Would he seriously be crying from getting a hand chopped off?

MJG may be despicable and even disturbing, but a crybaby he is not!

The closest I saw him come to tears was over something emotional (HyeSung's mom hitting a nerve and saying he came out wrong somehow). Physical pain just doesn't seem to faze the dude.

I'm sticking to my guns and betting cash moneys on the idea that he's crying either from genuine remorse or some deeper, more profound emotional revelation.

The thing this show does well is that it hesitates when painting someone as a heroine or a villain. No one is completely bad (not even Do Yeon) and we see flashes of genuine pain and rage in Min Joon Gook.

In other words, I'm shipping the notion that Min Joon Gook has a soul that is not beyond some modicum of redemption. I'm guessing that Min Joon Gook could have killed SuHa (if the kid woke up with amnesia, one can assume a blunt force to the head or a trauma so horrifying his psyche shut down), but chose not to.

PURE SPECULATION, but I'm thinking that Min Joon Gook had set up SuHa to be a murderer, but somehow, in the midst of its execution had some soul-shattering revelation, which is why he couldn't carry it out quite as perfectly as he'd originally intended and desired. I mean, Min Joon Gook may be crazy, but he's also crazy intelligent when it comes to execution and emotional and psychological manipulation.

It doesn't make sense or seem like his style to stage a death and not have SuHa discovered or caught right away.

But I do agree that SuHa's look of shock is most probably from the cutting of the hand.

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Ahh I love speculation. I'm usually half right and half wrong.

I'll take the whole thing about "he couldn’t carry it out quite as perfectly as he’d originally intended and desired" because seriously even if he is a genius ... you can't just simply make another person getting amnesia. Is there a drug for that? NO! (No right?!)
So at least something has happened that wasn't in his plan, because you can't plan amnesia (except you're the writer). Suha didn't get amnesia when he saw his father being murdered - well he got a huge shock and couldn't speak - WHEN HE WAS A CHILD. So what could make him like that as a grown up?
Yep, there you have your "accident".

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Bit off topic, but it reminds me of the Severed Hand case in the Japanese drama 'Strawberry Night'.

(*spoiler alert*)

The guy also managed to fool the forensics by cutting off his own hand and soaking it in someone else's blood, which messed up the initial DNA test result. (can't remember why fingerprinting wasn't an option - maybe he wasn't on their records)

It occurred to me that even if a one-handed MJG turned up alive and well, SH could still be framed and put on trial (again!) for assault and grievous bodily harm or some such thing. I think MJG is after revenge, all the way!

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Crying when your hand is being severed from your body without the benefit of anesthesia is not being a crybaby. It is being human. There are times when even the strongest, most pain tolerant person would cry and I suspect hand severing is one.

There is no way Joon Gook could have planned Suha's amnesia, and Suha's amnesia seems like something that was much against Suha's will. What I mean amnesia is an unconscious form of self/soul protection. By going into an amnesiac state, knowing that Joon Gook is alive and Hye-Sung seems like something Suha's conscious and unconscious mind would have fought against. So to my mind a very complex series of event triggered the amnesia.

Remember that Suha's has always be vulnerable to psycho-physical manifestation of emotional trauma. After his father's death he lost his ability to speak.

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@yumi -- YES. Crying for a NORMAL person when a hand is cut off is completely normal.

But Min Joon Gook is a total sociopath who seems to be emotionally immune to physical pain.

He withstood burns from the fire, he was spitting up blood from his fight with SuHa and he's been strangled a good deal of times.

That's why I think the tears are not from the pain of having his hand cut off. While it would be totally normal for a normal person, it just doesn't fit his character profile. As a viewer, I just don't buy it, that's he's crying cuz he's lost his hand and that it hurts badly.

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Exactly my speculation too. That's why I'm looking forward to seeing Lee Jong Seok's performance when SooHa's memories come flooding back.

Wow us again, LJS!

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I lean more towards this possibility too.

As for MJG's tears, I don't think he would cry of remorse, he is a psychopath with no empathy (maybe he hasn't always been that, but now he is for sure). The only thing I think will make him cry might be something that happened in the past, maybe the loss of his family...?

I want to know more of his background. There are so many characters in this show that need to be explained and given a proper background information. I hope we will get that before the end.

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I think he is more a sociopath than a psychopath.

Psychopaths have impulse control issues and erupt spontaneously. Because of this they are easier to catch.

Sociopath are better at long term planning and implementation. Because of this they are more likely to be serial killer before they are discovered since they are harder to catch.

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I really noticed the touch a lot in this episode too. That more than just what she was conveying with her words, she was conveying with touch.

His amnesia is being handled really well so far too. It's painful to watch him so vulnerable, but it's making for some great developments for him too. I really loved when he defined what he thought a defense lawyer was to her. It's what he's always wanted for himself, though he doesn't remember it right now and it was a fantastic moment of truth for her.

I definitely want to know more about why she lied to him about how he felt about her. Is she in denial of her own feelings and doesn't know how to handle it? Does she feel burdened by his feelings and thinks it would be better for him to remember and become heartbroken? Is it just that it would be awkward to say, "Actually one of the last times I saw you you kissed me?"

Can't wait to delve more into his amnesia. I was wondering if initially he was mentally too traumatized to hold onto his memories since he stabbed her, but now I'm thinking that somehow Min Joon Gook had a very big role in his memory loss. He is definitely playing a scary endgame with all of them...

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HAND HOLDING.

Did it not get you to tear up, just a rittle? Touch really was so important, especially in an episode in which it's hard for the characters to reach each other the way they had in the past.

I was particularly struck by how moved and honored Cha Byun looked when he was granted the chance to shake HS's hand again. Or how in the courtroom HS held onto SuHa's hand to reassure him, and his fingers reached back to intertwine more deeply like hers, an expression that seemed part fear, part reassurance, part blind faith in his noona.

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Ha, it's been a while since an episode hasn't had me tearing up a bit. My big tear moments this time were when they had the defender conversation and at the end when she reached over and he responded. I loved that she initiated so much of it this episode, in particular with Su-ha. So much was said through those moments without words. Guh, this show, gets me in the heart so good!

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Suha was totally surprised by the hand holding.
No one has treated him like that in the past year.
He has been really lonely and scared, even tho Grandpa gave him a roof over his head.
This attention coming from an attractive woman at his deepest moment of trouble when other ppl would be scared of him as a 'killer' must touch him to the depths of his soul!
Well-played!

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Thank you for that comment on loneliness. I think it's so interesting that before the amnesia, SuHa was lonely by choice. But now, he's lonely by circumstance and seems so starved for intimacy and kindness that he's latching onto Noona for dear life.

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It is clear that Suha and MGJ were together that day. We do not know what happened yet but what if, after "whatever happened", Suha fainted or showed signs of trauma and MGJ picked on it and decided to save him? Perhaps the old man who took him as nephew is related to MGJ. Perhaps we will find that MGJ feels sorry that they found Soha afterall... that will be an interesting twist.

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I think she is sort of blaming herself for what is happening to him because she knows that he's willing to do anything for her because he loves her

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I wondered if she said she was an acquaintance he disliked, he disliked was a way of not planting a motive in his head for killing Joon Gook.

Of course she already told him he took a knife for her.

I was also wondering if that diary documenting his need to protect his noona wouldn't give the prosecution more motives for him to kill.

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This show is rather predictable but darn it if it isn't heart renching.
Shelly if you're out there -- you've won your bet.
Su-ha really was an amnesic and min joon gook and him really did have a meeting, and it seems he faked his own disappearance.
I'll just wait for the part where we see min joon gook hatch up a plan to get him to that crime scene.

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i know, lol. am i right or am i right?

i should predict something good for next week... but i already did and i'm afraid it might come true *sigh*

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I really like how this show has made me care so much about Hye-sung, since I really didn't like her in the beginning episodes. She's grown so much as a character, thanks to her relationship with Su-ha.

At first I was really irritated that it took an entire episode to arrive at the conclusion we all reached last night: Min Joon-gook is a one-handed b*stard, not a murder victim. I think now I'm okay with it, though, since I'm not chomping at the bit for the next episode, like I was last night. Yes, I can't wait for episode 11, but I think I can sleep at night waiting for it. :P

And yes, gf, we need to know why the old man convinced Su-ha he was his nephew, and even acted all shocked when the police showed him the wanted poster. Had he not seen the news for the past year? Is he in on the whole thing with Min Joon-gook?

Thanks, gf.

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just have to wander in at this point to mention that the right-hand photo on Su Ha's wanted poster is of his crazy face while beating MG to a pulp - an angle no camera (except ours) could have gotten!

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ahhhhh my heart!!

su-ha + choong-ki + diary was divine. i laughed so hard. some of the entries, otherwise touching, were downright hilarious read in choong-ki's voice. the fact that he HAD to read all of that to su-ha, was priceless. i love this potential bromance.

the drama's doing a good job of keeping itself suspenseful. they need to dig more into the circumstances surrounding su-ha!! the man who took him in, the lady who reported seeing him... shouldn't they be?! and i've been waiting the whole series for the show to tell us what su-ha's father had done, exactly, to get himself murdered. whether he had done something to min joon-gook directly or if MJG was just a hired assassin.

is this show 16 episodes? PLEASE EXTEND AHHH. i know, i know. extensions can mess up a good show. but i'd do almost anything to keep these characters onscreen for awhile longer...

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Extensions are, like, the touch of death for good dramas, so I hope SBS doesn't extend it. I'm actually nervous they're considering an extension since the ratings are so high. It's definitely going to hit 20% by episode 11.

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I kind of wonder if the slower pacing in this ep is because they're already planning on extending it, which, AUGH NO. I can't think of a single drama that didn't fall off in quality after getting extended, and it's gonna kill me if that happens here.

Please don't be a victim of your own success, show. *crosses fingers*

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about that knife. when i saw MJG run off with the knife in the previous episode, i KNEW it would cause trouble later, since it was originally su-ha's. but no one knows that aside from hye-sung (and maybe sung-bin, but she never saw the knife directly).

they can't explain away the fingerprints on the knife by saying that su-ha had tried to wrestle the knife away from MJG or something, after he had stabbed both of them? after all it IS the knife that stabbed hye-sung, and everybody thinks it was MJG who stabbed her.

i'd love to get more on MJG's back story, and his mindset. does he not mind getting caught!? to go after su-ha and hye-sung so soon after his acquittal, doesn't he think it would arouse suspicion? and we know he may not be COMPLETELY heartless, because he looked genuinely moved by mom's birthday food. he just tamps down every good impulse with all that overflowing anger.

how am i going to wait a whole week!!!

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oh, and am i the only one seriously creeped out by the fact that su-ha might have purposely been placed where he was for a whole year? obvious culprit would be min joon-gook, but it's just so CREEPY.

i feel like the show seriously dropped the ball when it came to explaining su-ha and his mysterious situation. the lady who reported him (a big deal because she lived so far from where su-ha actually was) and especially the man who took him in and lied to neighbors that he was a relation. the more i think about it, the more confused i am that the show isn't making a bigger deal out of this. i think they'll get to it, but they should get to it NOW, no? and hye-sung doesn't seem all that concerned about the strange circumstances in which su-ha was discovered. knowing min joon-gook, and knowing SHE knows what he is, it just seems odd that she's not more suspicious.

i trust the writer, but sometimes i'm left puzzling why she seems to leave bits and pieces out... like with the twins' case, the motive for the twins' actions was never discussed, until everything was over.

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Wow, you're making me wonder now... Was Su-Ha in the country side just after the murder or did he wander around and end up there? Oh my!! Thinking, thinking.

I think the idea of discovering the motive "after" the (apparent) crime and after the official prosecution charge really is a good one. The writers seem to be playing with the idea that we humans judge so many things in our ignorance and we know little about the "truth." All we have is "the law" and the law is about evidence and "what seemingly can be proved" by that evidence.

But truth, you have to slowly discover..and truth sometimes has no evidence to back it up.

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Dramafever lists the show as 20 episodes and Viki says 16 (to be confirmed). Hope that helps.

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