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Podcast request line: Ask Dramabeans

 
While recording our last podcast, it occurred to us that we have yet to really veer from talking about specific dramas in our podcasts. We do want to take some time to chat about things that are drama- and Dramabeans-related, but not necessarily strictly confined to a certain show’s plot or execution or world.

(Normally we’re so focused on getting through the shows we’re talking about that it doesn’t leave a lot of time to hit on other topics — at least without creating unduly long podcasts — and as much as we are fine talking for hours on end, we don’t expect anybody to want to listen to us for that long.)

Thus we thought we would open up the floor to you guys to ask us questions, which we’ll address in our next podcast. We can’t promise we’ll get to every question, but we can certainly try. We’d love to know what YOU want to hear, and see where that takes us.

So ask away! We’ll address your questions and comments in the forthcoming podcast, which we will record… sooner than later. Promise!

 
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This is such a good idea! Reminds me of the "Ask Javabeans" page you used to have ages ago.

Not sure if you feel comfortable answering this question, but what do you think of the way the online kdrama landscape has changed over the last few years, with the changes in how subbing happens and the crackdown on streaming and downloading websites? Where do you see Dramabeans and the online kdrama community/blogosphere going in the future?

Also, I would totally listen to you guys for hours on end, and I'm pretty sure I'm not the only one. Just throwing that out there. (I have a long road trip coming up...)

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Ooh I just thought of another one! We know you guys' k-actor crushes, but what about favourite/most perfect hero of a kdrama? The fictional guy you would totally marry in a heartbeat if her was real.

Also, heroines who are so awesome you want to befriend them. Or be them. :)

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Great questions, Laica! *waves Hi!*

Would love to hear javabeans' and girlfriday's answers to these.

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Thanks, hehe. And HI! :D

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I second your first question, Laica. Also any thoughts on Cruel City?

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think javabeans and girlfriday talked a bit about Heartless City in the recent podcast. but more thoughts would be nice :)

also... um JB, hope i don't sound like i'm pressing you or anything, but i sent you something on HC and was wondering if you had seen it? just wondering, is all... *sweats*

my question is: is there anything you think K-dramas/films can learn from other Asian or American dramas/films, and vice versa?

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"my question is: is there anything you think K-dramas/films can learn from other Asian or American dramas/films, and vice versa?"

Seconded!

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Amongst other Asian dramas/film/tv from other parts of the world, which elements do you think make k-dramas stand out and what, in your opinion, are the advantages/disadvantages of k-dramas as a storytelling format?

Do you think that the k-drama industry is in a transitional stage at the moment and that experimentation with format, episode count and content is likely to increase in the coming years? What role do you think will the competition between cable networks and the big three of broadcast play in this? Or, with more and more dramas functioning as money making machines without artistic merit, is the corporatisation of the k-drama industry likely to continue?

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Yes, I would also love to hear more about Heartless City! Also, does anyone know how the show is doing in Korea?

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me too, heartless city is deabak...one of the best dramas this year, if not the best. so noir..so good :)

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i also don't mind listening to JB/GF talk for hours on end and could we maybe make a group one including our minions heads,gummi,and kaede?
I know it sounds like alot of fun but might be even harder considering there'll be 5 voices talking at once...

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Minions would be awesome! :D

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Yes please kindly answer this. I have been greatly affected by the lost of my favorite streaming sites Kimchidrama, MySoju and now Dramacrazy. My interest in watching K-dramas has been on the wane but with the recaps of IHYV and Monstar it was revived sadly my go to sites are no longer available. I should be mad right but all I feel is apathy cries. I think my 10 year cycle of watching K-dramas has finally broken. On the other hand I'm starting to read more books yay.

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Have you tried viki or dramafever?

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Not available in my region, maybe the gods are telling me something lol. Should read more, stop ogling chocoabs. I'll just rely on DB to supply the pretty.

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sorry on riding on your question Laica, but i'm also on the same topic.

Because of the crackdown, there are lesser and lesser sites to watch kdramas. My issue is, there are a lot of us who are willing to pay, but the problem is they are not yet in our countries, like the Philippines, resulting for us to watch at illegal sites =(. How can we request sites like Dramafever to include us? What are the issues? would u know them?

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Great questions, Laica! I second your sentiment about long podcasts. They're really great to listen to during trips!

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I would love to know how a day or a week revolves around drama: watching, writing, posting, running the blog. How you contact and connect. It's got intricacies that I'm totally curious about.

I'd love to hear more about the music in the shows, too. Do you guys know anything about how these things are scored? I know that singers/groups contribute talents to OSTs, but what about the background stuffs, that orchestral stuff. Like Shitty Hunta. Gorgeous. How was that done? Do you know? Is it integral to your viewing experience? Prosecutor Princess was really badly mastered in terms of balancing out the show. It was overPOWERING.

Um, um...not sure if you covered this, but for those of us who didn't go, how was the NYC meetup?????

Yeah, that's it for now!

Thanks for asking! You rock!

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I second the music question.

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Of course I didn't get all the way through the podcast where one of my questions was already answered. *shifty eyes*

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I third on the music question! (BTW, that background instrumental music is technically termed 'incidental music'.) Do the Big Three still employ their Network Orchestras, or have they farmed out such work to the production companies/music publishers (such as LOEN, Starship, etc.) to hire their session musicians? I totally agree that an OST can either make or break your viewing pleasure... and I've heard some real clunkers over my many years of drama watchings! I've tried to research this issue and discuss it with people on the ground in Seoul, but they have no clear idea either. *sad face*

Ha. I'm writing this while brushing my teeth and listening to the rips I made of the tunes from 'Five Fingers' to start my long day. That was a show that SHOULD have had a second disk made of just the incidental music!

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I've been curious about the incidentals as well - for instance, did anyone else notice that ALL of the incidentals in the drama "School 2013" were instrumentals of Simple Plan songs? As a fan of that band, I loved it....but I also wondered how that worked. Rights, ect. Who scores it. The whole process.

It was a great touch if you know the band - all the songs used are coming-of-age, rebellious, punk-rock tracks. Too bad they didn't use any of the actual simple plan versions, but to me just the incidentals of them really added a lot.

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Thank you for the question, Cherkell! I find that I tend to like the incidental music in dramas a lot. Unfortunately, when the CDs are released, all the incidentals of a drama are not always included. That was the case with The King 2 Hearts, for example. I bought that CD because I was looking for one, and they didn't include it. I was SO disappointed...

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Story of my life! I remember being disappointed when the My Girlfriend is a Gumiho OST had no incidental music. Or when the only OSTs that include incidental music are the special collectors editions. The score for Arang and the Magistrate was beautiful, but I could have cared less about being forced to buy all the ballads along with it.

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Speaking of Shitty Hunta, there is a song in Goddess of Marriage that sounds like one of the songs in CH. I heard it for the 1st time (or noticed it rather) at the end of ep. 4, today. I can't help but wonder if it is the same person who wrote the music, because really the songs sound similar (I thought of CH right away, when I heard that song). The differences are not very big. One of the differences is that "Suddenly" (the song in CH) is sung by a female, and the song in GoM is sung by a male. I just thought I would mention that.
I looked for that song (GoM) on YT, but I guess people have not started posting the OST of GoD on YT yet. If anyone has noticed what I noticed or has any info, please let me know. Thank you!

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I would love to know how a day or a week revolves around drama: watching, writing, posting, running the blog. How you contact and connect. It’s got intricacies that I’m totally curious about.

Heh, someone voiced my question first. =) I'm intensely curious about how you guys maintain a demanding schedule. My friends and I have been trying to recap some old favourites and it takes us four hours to recap a one hour show. *sigh*

The other question I have is connected to Laica's - about the subbing and streaming landscape these days - do you remember the post you wrote some years back on how you sub episodes and the intricacies of getting the timing right and the choosing the perfect interpretation even though the literal meaning of the words might be different...? I know you don't sub anymore, but can you discuss the technicalities of fansubbing in some detail here, please?

Thanks, DB!!

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For me, there are a few shows where the music is what actually made the show shine for me - "Windstruck" is one example. But sadly, the shows with really good OST's are not all that common.

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How hot is Lee Sang Woo?
Your own opinions.

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i totally second this

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Are you still watching Dad! Where are you going? That show kept my sunday busy (and very happy) when I gave up watching 1N2D every sunday.

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This sounds like a great idea!!

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I don't really remember reading how the meet-up went. I know for privacy reason that you guys can't probably post up pictures but I was wondering how that went and if you guys are gonna do any more or in any other city

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They posted that last podcast...I'm listening now...hehe.

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What did you think of Incarnation of Money? I never got to hear your opinion about this great drama :(

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Thank you for doing this! I agree that it is a great idea. My question for now is: "What made you add the feature [Report this comment], and what is your purpose in doing so?" I am curious as to how your thought process went about it and what led you to that decision. I am not complaining that you have that feature, I would just like to know your thoughts on it. Thanks!
I might ask more questions, if I think of some.

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"Report this comment" is added recently. Im also curious about the reason. I dont mind it actually, though I worry that I might accidentally click it.

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Hi Amberscube, I know that "report this comment" was added recently. I noticed it the very day it was. I don't mind it either, and since we can ask them questions about a lot of things, I thought I would ask about that.

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I was wondering about it too and I also have click fear. And what IS reportable?

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I would imagine excessive crudity/foul language, trolling and/or harassment...as this is a friendly and fairly family-friendly blog :). As for why...well, I haven't really seen anything report-worthy, but that could be because they've caught anything before many people see it. Who knows. :)

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I thought i was the only one with click fear....am wondering if our click fear is the same. I just don't want to accidentally click on [Report this comment] when i really just want to Reply. I was hoping maybe [Report this comment] could be put over to the right if possible. And REPLY would be on the left. Thus my click fear would be nullified.

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Good idea about moving it to the right. But fear not, I confronted my click fear and discovered that a pop-up message comes up saying "Are you sure you want to report this comment?"... so it's okay if you click it by mistake.

I, too, was wondering if there were any guidelines about using this feature. Is it intended to be used for comments with uncoded major spoilers as well?

I'm in total awe of how well this site is run and I imagine that there was a good reason for adding the comment reporting feature, but without knowing the reason, I'll just say that I'm not a big fan of it. I'm guessing most users will find it innocuous, but I feel that it's not in keeping with the (usually) friendly, respectful spirit that's such an important part of the db community. Maybe I'm extra sensitive to it at the moment because I'm watching The Queen's Classroom in which a teacher recruits students to secretly report on their classmates' wrongdoings, but it feels a little 1984ish to me. Like there's a cloud of suspicion tainting everyone's comments. Personally, I'd prefer to see a statement added to the top of the comments section saying something like "Please, no personal attacks, hateful language, uncoded spoilers, or criticsms of Kang Ji Hwan" with an understanding that we should email jb if there were a seriously offensive comment, etc. However, this is just my 2 cents... ultimately, whatever works best for jb & co is what's most important. As I've said before, I'm eternally grateful for all of the work that goes into making this such a remarkable site.

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I also have "click fear" of clicking report this comment by mistake because sometimes I'm posting on the go or at work *hides* and have to do it quickly. As everyone above has mentined I would also like to know what lead to this decision.

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Out of topic, but in reply to 'report this comment' function:

I would love to have a thumbs up function. No thumbs down allowed (- like in Facebook, not youtube). There are many times when I really love a comment and I think showing my support with a thumbs up would enhance our experience with the comments section tremendously.

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@Carole-YES!

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I wondered too: What constitutes "reportable"?

I may be missing something but there isn't anywhere (I can see) where there are standards/rules or expectations stated about comments. So, how do we know when we're out of line or when we report another?
Personally, the foul language and "saving your spot in the comment queue" deal really bother me. But folks here generally are pretty decent about things.

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I would think JB being the moderator for this blog she can't read every single comment out there and make sure it's blog friendly.
But i've seen it a few times where someone would post something with a ton of cuss words and then it ended up being deleted, or a major spoiler ending to a series was also deleted.
Stuff like that.
'Report this comment' is probably a rather helpful tool for JB and makes her job alot easier by being alerted of any crazy comments out there.

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Which makes me ask this question:

JB, do you go to individual posts and read all the comments or do you have a 'news-feed' where you see each comment that has been posted in certain threads?

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Thank you guys for your answers. They are helpful and insightful...

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I have a question I have always wanted to ask, but that I keep forgetting to ask: what does that mean in a Kdrama (and in the Korean culture), when someone apologizes and rubs his/her hands at the same time? This aspect of the culture is not mentioned in the glossary, and I have always wondered what that meant, and what the implications were.
On the same note, in school (grade/elementary school) when children are punished and made to kneel, they sometimes have both of their hands up, straight up. Is that done to add to the corporal punishment, so they (physically) suffer more? I was also curious about that.

Someone asked about Kaedejun. What happened to Orangy911 (I think that was her screen name)? I am just curious, since she is not one of the minion recappers anymore.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how much do you guys (JB and GF) enjoy managing this site and doing the other things you do here (recapping kdramas, etc...). Are there days when you wish you were not managing the blog (like for instance if you are on vacations, do you wish you didn't have to post some articles/threads daily to keep the blog going? I am assuming, based on the freshness of the news especially, and on the recap, that you can't prepare [ahead of time] for a week's or two weeks worth of articles to post)?
The difference with us the readers, is that we can take a break from reading DB AND come back, it is still there, with new articles and postings. I am assuming that at this point you guys can't? I see you (JB and GF) post at least something daily (so far).

Would you guys say that you get a lot of mail, through your email addresses on this blog? (I am just trying to get a sense of what your life is like, the one associated with managing the blog and all that it involves).

Another question: how much time went by between the time JB thought of creating a blog to discuss Kdramas and Korean culture (and Kpop) and the time the blog actually went up? Was that JB's 1st venture as a blogger? How long soon after, did GF and the minion recappers join in?

I hope my questions are not too personal. Thanks again!

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Thought I would answer cultural questions just to save some time for JB and company:

1. "when someone apologizes and rubs his/her hands at the same time"

- this is usually when someone asks for mercy. i.e forgive me, I will never do it again; please spare my life, etc, etc.

2. "in school (grade/elementary school) when children are punished and made to kneel, they sometimes have both of their hands up, straight up. Is that done to add to the corporal punishment, so they (physically) suffer more?"

- Absolutely. The are less harsh in grade/elementary then in Jr/high schools. Your legs starts to fall asleep and your arms hurt like it is going to fall off. Some teaches will make you hold heavy book(s) so it will hurt more! So when no one is looking, you lower your arms to relieve pain, but somehow you always get caught. Go figure...

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Thanks PJ, that was helpful and I appreciate it.

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I question if that kind of student punishment is even legal anymore (if it ever really was). I know that last year sometime I saw a news report on one of the English language Korean news sites about a couple of school officials and/or teachers going to jail for beating a student.

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I looked this up myself, and it is not legal - in fact ran across this quote "The Seoul Metropolitan Office of Education (SMOE) said Monday that many private teachers continue to physically discipline students in breach of the Juvenile Protection Act..."

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Hi Windsun33,

And thank you for your input. I have seen that kind of punishment in a few dramas, which was why I asked. I used to have to kneel when I was in Junior High for punishment (but we would have to do it in our seats), and that was over 30 years ago, so I don't know if it is still practiced in my country.

I remember seeing it last (I think) in the King of Dramas, and granted the lead in that drama was supposed to have been 38 (or so) and that was supposed to have happened when he was a child. I was just curious about it. Your inputs are quite insightful, and I have noticed that you tend to respond to my questions, if you have a thought or an answer. I appreciate that.

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I was wondering about it too! Its the first thing that gets my attention.

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Omo! I knew there was something different! (Helpless as usual... sigh)

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It was probably included especially for people like you. Who don't contribute and whose main purpose in life is to post first.

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As a non-Korean kdrama fan, I'd love to hear you talk about some of the common tropes in dramas, just to give us viewers from other cultures some insight on background and tradition and whether this actually happens in real life or just on TV and such. You sometimes mention some of them while recapping, and I am always fascinated! I mean things like drunk piggybacking, the First Love, any and all of that kind of thing.

Also, in a similar vein, the nuances of social interaction - like the intricacies of the terms oppa and noona - have always fascinated me, because knowing these details gives such a lot of additional depth and meaning to many dramas! I'd really love to hear more about that kind of thing, too. :-))

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Check out the glossary section with quite a few entries, including about oppa and noona. Here's the link: http://www.dramabeans.com/category/glossary/

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Along the lines of social interactions and norms, I don't mind (too much) seeing people being mistreated in Kdramas (such as in YATBLSS and Goddess of Marriage), because it is happening in a drama, and there needs to be drama (even though a lot of it ends up being makjang [sp?]). Also, watching that makes me curious about how the situations will be resolved. Will the people who are being mistreated and stepped on get a spine and fight back (or being given opportunities to fight back, by the writer) or will their character simply fade in the background (without much of a comeback), a la Chung-jo for instance, in the recent GFB?

***POTENTIAL SPOILERS ABOUT GODDESS OF MARRIAGE***
That being said, I can't help but wonder how much of what we see in Kdramas (especially when it comes to family interactions between in-laws) actually occurs in real life in Korea. I don't know if you would have any info about topics of this nature (since this is about people's personal lives), however, could a woman be made to give up her career and become a doormat like the 1st daughter-in-law in GoM (for example)? And where is her family (her people)? It seems (so far) that she doesn't have any family members standing up for her/defending her. Could they defend her, if they wanted to?

How much of a say do women in their 20s, 30s and 40s have in their romantic life and in their married life? It seems at times to me that women in Korea have to take care of a lot of things and of a lot of people. I can understand that, because my culture is similar (in many ways). I also think however that cultural changes happen in many countries, including Korea, and that I think might be reflected in the more trendy and modern Kdramas.
So what is your sense of what we see in Kdramas just being there to make the story interesting and well, "dramatic" and what you feel/know (based on your travels and observations and conversations with friends and relatives) is different than what we see in Kdramas?

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Ivoire's post reminded me of questions I have about work and marriage for women. The marriage option (with a proposal or discussion of one) for the 20s-30s working woman more often than not ends up being an either-or thing. It seems that a woman's career is compromised when she marries.

Do employers prefer single women?
Do families who don't agree with married women working make it difficult for the parties involved?
Does a husband typically expectation that his wife not work a full-time career?
Do men (in the same age range) support women's careers?
Does a woman feel a stigma about working full-time and being married?

In one drama a woman made this statement, "There's nothing a woman can gain by being strong" regarding how she was treated at work and socially for being educated and having a career.

I would love some insight into these things - thanks!

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Meee tooo. I mean, I think some of these things may be exaggerated for the sake of the dramas but I wonder how much is actually true to life and if a woman keeping her job after marriage is so AWFUL that's it's actually a deal-breaker (as I've seen in some dramas where they have a big huge argument over it).

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I'm curious about Kdrama Tropes vs Real Life too (or just Reality Check, since I'm aware that watching all the dramas from a country while at a divorce from both that country and the culture in real life mean common sense somehow disappears sometimes)--do first sons and potential wives really face all that pressure? Does social 'status' matter THAT MUCH? And on a more shallow note, is it purely product placement or is there really some mass thought process that dictates anything 'good quality' can only be couture? I'm curious about the women & careers/family things listed above as well.

Another thought I have is more about the industry and culture - I have noticed the media seems to have access to an awful lot of information that I can't imagine happening legally, or what on earth possessed management agencies to think it was a good idea to allow that level of access...

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I second? third?...this question. Sometimes I wonder how drama and S. Korean real life reflect each other specially when in comes to men and women having to be obedient to their parents even when they are in their late 20's and 30's?.Mother in law/daughter in law relationships, etc?

Thank you.

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From time to time I run across some interesting facts and statistics that go directly against what you see in K-dramas. Just a few examples"
1. Abortion is seldom (if ever) mentioned in TV dramas, yet Korea has one of the highest rates in the world - even though abortion is technically illegal.
2. Since 1999, Korea has moved from around #85 to #12 on the divorce rate (2012) worldwide.
3. Despite the very real "Glass Ceiling" for women in Korea, more and more continue to have careers - either by working after marriage, or putting off marriage completely.
4. Not long ago, in 2010 I think, a survey was done in several countries about who would like to emigrate to the US and why. South Korea was around 50% for men and a startling 75%+ for women. (The survey was skewed in two respects - it was taken only among college students, and was at the height of the economic meltdown). The most common reason cited by women was "no future to use their skills".
5. Interesting quote" "One in four South Koreans said that they want to give birth to their children abroad to give them non-Korean nationalities..." (Chosun Times)
6. As of 2012, South Korea is 9th in the world for migrating to the US, 3rd among Asian countries. (See Nationmaster dot com for some other interesting stats).

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This is probably a question you guys have been asked before. But what is your honest opinion on the increase of idols being casted in dramas in recent years? There has always been cases of idol casting but it seems it has increased 100fold in the past 2 years or so with almost every drama having an idol in it so I am curious to your take on it and how you feel this will effect the qualities of kdramas over time.

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First question: is that your photo in this post? (i know i am being typical and all the cliched stuff but if that pic is yours just wanted to say you are very pretty!)

Second question/request: I am from Asia and am pretty sure there isn't one from my country other than myself who reads DB (you can even almost count the number of people who watch kdramas in a minute! yeah it's that small :/) so there was no way i could have attended the NYC meet up although i would have loooooved to if i could. So, can you please please PLEASE give us kind of a newsfeed type thingy on the meet up? Would really love to know what happened, who you guys got to meet, what was the general reaction upon meeting with you guys was, what you liked about the meet and the like.

Thanks!

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erm forget the second question....just saw you guys had already posted it in the last podcast. thanks.

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Sorry mate, that's not one of them. It's an actress whose name I can't seem to remember but I've met them at the DB meetup and they are pretty people.

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May I ask where did your user name came from?, i made up the word kiotzo 4 years ago, and never saw anyone else with that user name, just curious tho :)

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Hey thanks for answering. Shame that's an actress's pic, would have loved to see JB/GF since that would given me a feeling that i have met them in spirit.

Anywho, Tazzo is just sth some of my friends used to call me when i was in high school, and i liked it so it stayed with me :)

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i'm very surprised you being from Asia would mean you're the only one who reads DB, because from my understanding, the Asians' support of kdrama (i mean, apart from South Koreans themselves) is tremendous.

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I'm really curious about the questions in Laica's first post.

I also second the question about the "background" music (I'm in love with Secret Garden's OST, but also King 2 hearts' and many more... and I usually really love some of the shows because of that non-lyric music).

Also, I was curious about the clichés in K-dramas. I don't expect Koreans to have amnesia galore or driving while barely checking the mirrors, but I'm still wondering, as someone who never went to Korea or who doesn't anyone from that cultural background, to what extent you can learn about (contemporary) Korean culture. Like family structure. Or like the language, for instance, is it polished or standardized in dramas or does it actually reflect how Korean talk? (I read that "Kim Sam Soon" introduced somehow the onscreen swearing for instance.)

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Edward or Jacob?
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rofl this

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What does it mean?

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Ivoire, it's a reference to the popular Twilight series of books then movies. The two guys in the story are Edward and Jacob. I understand there was (is) quite the fan war on who the heroine should end up with.

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Hi Rashell, I see and thanks! I know about the Twilight light series (saw the actors on Oprah, when she still had her show), but I never knew there was a fan war as to who the heroine should end up with.

It should be obvious by now that that series did not tickle my fancy, even though I saw the big posters at Wal-mart at the time (marketing), and the many magazines with their faces on the cover page. I just never read the books or watched the movies, I guess I was not interested in it. It seemed that it had quite a few cliches (though I don't mind them in Kdramas, usually :-) ).
I did read (in passing) an article once about the writer, and I don't remember much of it now. The hysteria when they first went on the Oprah Show was something to see though. They showed people lining up a number of hours before (at night), before the opening of the movie (one of them) and people lining up to see them on Oprah. I think part of it was also that I am/was a little old to get caught up in that.

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Ha ha, that's almost funnier than the original question! Ivoire, you're lucky if you don't recognize the reference :D

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I guess I was... :-)

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My good friend in collage badgered me into reading them (I read about 100pgs an hour, so it's not like I lost THAT much time doing it....) and I have to say...they are about the poorest written fiction I've ever read. And this is coming from someone who

1. read an average of 4-6 books a DAY in high school
2. Loves YA fiction and kids books as well as fantasy novels.
3. Has re-read her favorite book over 22 times. I lost count at 22 times...the year I turned 17. We won't go into how long ago that was ;)

So yeah...IMO, you didn't miss anything. :D

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You should some of the Alex Read Twilight videos o YouTube.

That's the only way to read those books.

I've never actually tried them, only watched the first movie x_x (not knowing about the hype at all because I was living in some distant corner of the world at the time).

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@alua - loved Alex read twilight! Hilarious! My only problem with him is that I think he also doesn't like the HP books. :(

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Just for this comment, I love you even more now Ivoire!

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Hi Alua,

Always good to read from you :-). I appreciate the love you are sending my way, and believe me, I receive it :-). It is possible that you might love me (a little) more after I explain why I asked the question the way I did.

So, when I saw Jacob being mentioned, my mind went straight to the Bible character (Jacob). However, I couldn't remember a character in the Bible named Edward, and so I thought, "Edward? I don't remember an Edward in the Bible... So what is Jacob doing here (as in, in this sentence)?" Hence my question, "what does it mean?" as in, "is it another story, allegory, fable, etc... I don't know about? Because if it is, please educate/enlighten me."

That being said, I think Alua that having read some of my posts, you (now) know how inquisitive I can be and also that I simply don't assume. If I don't know something or I have doubts, I just ask. I put it out there. That's the best way to find out, right?

I am glad you guys had a good laugh at my expense. I do aim to please :-)...

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Werewolf!

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Yeah, yeah, Werewolf Boy!

God, when I watched that movie at a film festival recently, all my Korean Cultural Centre friends were like "Ohhh, the Korean Twilight". I swear, I was ready to kill them.

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Where do you see the future of this blog going?
I know you ladies can't be on dramabeans forever(as much as i want that to be true). I know in the future you ladies will end up married and have children and no longer have much time to manage this blog with the amount of time it requires. So, do you plan on handing it over to other people, or will you shut down DB?
I know i'm probably thinking too far ahead -- but i'd really be sad if this site was no longer run by the drama goddesses or if it was shut down.

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"— but i’d really be sad if this site was no longer run by the drama goddesses or if it was shut down."

Oh my goodness, ilikemangos is making me sad! ...... I almost shed tears at the thought of this possibility.

Here's hoping that DB and the always awesome DB Team will be with us for many, many years to come!

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Hi! Thank you for giving the chance to ask and recommend!

I would like you to tackle the problem with variety like 1N 2 D, PD-s creative decisions, the good and the bad, and what to do to keep the quality when the tight-tied crew changes, and is it even possible to keep the quality? Is it tied to the group of people making it or some other qualities? are the audience just old fashioned and cannot accept change? is it even possible to keep the quality of such a show after a certain time? what are all the reasons it just "doesn´t feel the same" as many complain recently?
would be great if we could discuss it.
Thank you.

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maybe I used the wrong term, I dont know the proper english words for all the things. not even in my own alnguage, cause I have no TV....weekly entertainment show? yeah, anyhow.... can we get back the glory? and what would it take ?

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This may be a bit too personal, but I'm dying to to know what's the connection between the writers in real life! Also, where did Kaedejun go?!

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Also: do you plan to ever post more of those extended glossary & pop culture posts? They were really fun and informative!

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Oooh. i like personal questions. good one, mawiie.
I also wanna add:
-how did GF and JB meet and how did you guys end up teaming up?
-what was the first time you guys met each other face to face like (did you guys make up certain personas of each other in your heads?)
-what's GF and JB's real-life jobs(okay, maybe i'm just digging too much into your personal lives)
-where do you find the time to manage this blog?(fourth dimension as an answer doesnt count)
Theres so much more but i'll cut it off there.

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One last one i promise:

How do you guys communicate with each other (phone,texting,chatting, etc? aside from twitter)

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Hahaha, Hearties are on the fire, to answer these above they need to write a book...or manga.

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1) did javabeans and galfriday first meet via fan subbing? or was it college? I could've sworn I saw javabeans' name as one of the fan subbers for an old drama.

2) If Javabeans and Gal Friday could swap places with the Hong Sisters, how would they have rewritten Big? And how would they have rewritten the endings of other shows that started off so great and ended so horribly, horribly wrong?

3) What are common things Javabeans and Gal Friday disagree about when it comes to their taste in dramas?

4) do javabeans and galfriday live on opposite ends of the coast?

5) When will Javabeans and GF have a meet up in L.A.? Surely, L.A.'s got much more affordable venues than NYC, better weather and a lot more flexibility when it comes to event planning. If there are obstacles/challenges, tell us what they are! Maybe we can help you!

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DITTO the re-writes!!!! I would LOVE to redeem the Big storyline, among other k-dramas that started out so so well and then drove the car off the plot cliff. I Do, I Do, perhaps?

And even though saying it might get me scorned for all time...does Secret Garden need an ending re-write? For some reason, I just couldn't understand any of the main lead motivations. Not to mention the body-switching felt like it only got used effectively once, and then used as a deus ex machina to wrap everything up. Unless I watched/read things wrong. I'll go hunting in the archives and refresh my memory! haha

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Personally I would love to hear your top 5 favorite dramas and top 5 worst dramas, and why.

Also I would love to hear about the experiences you have had because you started this website. I know there are downsides that come from doing this (and you can talk about those too), but what cool things have happened that you never would have guessed would happen because you run dramabeans? Or are there any? This might be extreme, but an example would be have you been able to meet someone famous.

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Thank you guys for this great idea !! I always had many questions about Kdrama land, but for now only one pops into my head.
so my questions is: why do you think ther has to always be a love triangle ???? why does there always have to be a thrid wheel or a broken heart for the OTP to get together??? I'm not saying I hate it or think that's it's useless, but ever since I started watching Kdramas, there was always a thrid person who has to walk away or sacrifice or whatever, I wish that they would do a drama without a love triangle for once.

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1. Why there is lack of rom-coms these days in dramaland?
2. Why we don't have hugely popular and crack dramas like You are beautiful, Boys Before Flowers, Coffee Prince, SKKS,etc anymore? Has the craze for kdramas gone down?

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Hey, I would argue that IHYV is a crack drama .... :D

IMO, the conditions have to be just right to create a crack drama - and being a so-called crack drama is not a statement of quality, either - just look at Twilight....it was the largest phenomenon since Harry Potter, but in my humble opinion was badly plotted, had cardboard characters, horrible dialogue, illogical plot turns (when there was a plot at all), gross murder of grammar, not to mention the worst co-dependent unhealthy romance of a century...

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Twilight the first little indie movie with no budget, bad special effects, and the quirky director, had it's charm. And great music. I'll give a smidgeon of worth to New Moon simply for the Lykie Li and Bon Iver use in the soundtrack, but ugh, the rest of the movies blew chunks. One it got some funding and went into THE SAGA it went straight to poo.

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Because they don't make money according to Mr. X.

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Hi, who is Mr. X?

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Maybe I am wrong, but Heirs sounds like it's going to be a crack drama.

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yeah, despite there being major issues with the script, i think it's gonna be a crack drama, too.

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Hey! Sorry if this sounds ignorant or if I'm missing something really obvious, but what script issues? It has started airing yet or released anything from the script, has it?

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Have you read the script? What issues it have?

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I may be getting mixed up, but I believe Heirs is written by the same writer of A Gentleman's Dignity and Secret Garden which have in common: a) high ratings and manic fandoms b) leads with 'personalities' that have a tendency to polarise the audience, notably on issues to do with feminism, the patriarchy and what constitutes an adult and c) loose plotting - people will do a lot of stuff and not actually achieve anything.

In other words, there are those who believe the script will have issues because the scripts that have been before have had issues.

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..Anything with LMH has crack potential :D

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-Discussion/deconstucting on female lead CHARACTERS in drama (not the actresses, but the characters). Which really display admirable traits of ovular fortitude, other admirable character traits and behaviors, and so forth in the over all arc of the drama,those that are likable maybe even feisty, but really are dependent damsels in distress, those that are flawed but still admirable, those that are likeable enough but otherwise leave you wondering if watching paint dry might be more interesting, and of those that are total wastes of good air, etc., etc.

Other suggestions:

-Critical analysis of a theme or themes in a drama.

-Commonly used Korean colloquialisms, adages, proverbs, and play on words/puns, in dramas.

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I second Mar's first question. We all know plenty of male actors and characters who steal the show with their charm. In my experience, K-dramas generally have better written male characters, provided with more in-story leeway. A discussion about existing female characters with complex personalities and well defined character arcs and growth, bonus points for assertive or sexually experienced/confident heroines, or just memorable female scene stealers would be really interesting. Shows that play with gender (beyond the mainstream coffee prince-you're beautiful-hana kimi variety) and sexuality or unusual male leads (read: men who are not aggressive, dominant, wrist grabbing jerks) might be included too.

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Right on Cherkell, I like you additional thoughts!

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I meant Chimera, sorry, that's the only doh moment I am allowed this week darn it.

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Has anyone else noticed that while these drama writers often give lip service to feminism, that the actual female characters they write about are nearly all either (A) - lovable, clueless and spineless doormats or (B) - Hateful overbearing witches and harpies.

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Yes. That is one reason I suggested a topic on lead female characters also!

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Great idea guys ..... As a non korean n big time fan of some koreans .... I would really like to see some of my fav actor's .... So can you guys give some information of when n how we can meet up or just see these actors when they come to the US ??? :) its a long shot i know !!!

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What college did u guys graduate from?

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Please talk about Heartless City - because you're not recapping it but if I remember it right you were tuning in. :D Would like to hear your thoughts about it.

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They talked about CCity in last PC...I wasn't happy, have to admit.

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It seems to me like Korea's going through a "Golden Age" much like America did back in the 1930s-1950s when all the actors in Hollywood could not only act, but sing and dance as well (or at least tried). There are so many Kpop-stars-turned-actors and actors who end up singing for the OSTs in their dramas. Some are undoubtedly better than others, but I give them props anyway for trying to market themselves as multi-talented, instead of sitting comfortably under one career title like most American singers and actors these days. Do you think Korea's really experiencing a "Golden Age" or is this just a product of the Korean workaholic mentality?

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I would like to know what type of entertainment you're interested in outside of k-dramas. For example, I know that girlfriday has some interest in k-pop that you Javabeans lack.

But what are the movies, tv series, books, music, games even from other countries that you are interested in and how do they affect your k-drama viewing experience?

My own personal example: I watched the first episode of The Sword and the Flower and saw the upside down almost kiss and it immediately made me think of a video game, Final Fantasy 10 that had a similar scene. And I think its obvious what you watch, listen to, etc., affects the way you see k-dramas.

So could you mention some things of interest to you and maybe any connections that you see to k-dramas?

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I believe JB loves K-indie! The songs she offers are lovely. I'm forever indebted to her for introducing me to K-indie. Thank you, Javebeans!

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1)What are some of your favourite non kdrama dramas?
2)What is your schedule like? with work, life and dramabeans stuff.. do you have a set schedule? how long does it take to write a recap for each show? how do you decide which shows you guys are recapping?

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First of all I'd like to thank you for your dedication to this site and the time to put into it. That would lead to my question which is how much time does it take you to do each recap and what makes you choose to recap certain dramas & how you manage your time to watch the episodes on time.

2nd question, do you, or did you ever watch dramas from other asian countries Japan or Taiwan? And if so what do you think about them?

Lastly is a question about the culture aswell but a bit different. Since from what I got from this blog is that you girls grew up in the states. How do both of you feel different or similar from people who grew up in South Korea. Is your way of thinking very different?

Btw the longer the podcast the happier I am :P when I listen it feels like talking to friends about a subject I actually like.

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Hi girls,
I was always wondering,do you like doramas, have you watched any?
What are you watching beside dramas you are recapping.., because I sense s'times, I would like to drop this but...

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I'd like to know about you're favorite heroes, heroines and couples (not just romantic). I'd also like to hear about some of your favorite actresses and actors and their best performances.
Also I was hoping you could talk about how to get access to some older dramas like Jealousy, Feelings, etc. I've deduced that they are pretty much impossible to find but just in case I'd like to hear your suggestions.

Also this is in a somewhat different vein but have you ever considered doing an Editor's Pick section for 2007 and 2008? The editor's pick sections have always been the most helpful to me when picking dramas to watch. I was thinking you could even just do one Editor's Pick for the years before 2009.

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Another thing about the Editor's Pick is its always really nice to watch a drama and then see that the character you loved got best character etc. so I'm always disappointed that some of my fav dramas like Bad Family, Delightful Girl Choon Hyang, Soulmate, and Flowers for my Life aren't included.

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Hey! :) I have a couple of questions.

Why did you guys start making recaps, of all things? Why recaps and not just, like, commentary/ranting/spazzing (pretty much the top and bottom parts of your recaps)?

What are your opinions on the fan-subbing system (and the fact that a lot of drama websites are getting shut down)?

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So I can totally understand why you guys stopped recapping 1N2D...especially after watching the first ep of Grandpas over Flowers. *Sniff* Na Pd!

The other day, one of my friends asked me for some funny episodes of 1N2D, which I had the hardest time finding. I went through all the recaps looking for that weird one where some of them cross dress...and Suengi's in a bath tub...

Anyways, I'd love to hear your favorite episodes from back in the good ole' days.

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Hi javabeans and girlfriday!

I personally would listen to really long podcasts - it's like hanging out with friends! Unrequited friends!

I'm curious about the things you like outside of kdrama - what books do you enjoy, what other shows/films do you watch, what are your favourites among them all?

I'm also curious about javabeans-and-girlfriday-in-real-life ALTHOUGH I think you deliberately don't mention a lot of things. But what you do when you aren't doing Dramabeans - it would be interesting to hear a little if you're happy to share.

On the whole, I'll listen to anything you do! It's like reading books from a favourite author!

(and snap, I've actually spent all day listening to older podcasts in order while cleaning - makes boring work much more fun.)

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First question, What TV do you guys watch outside of Korean dramas? (I think you talked about this in your ask JB post years ago but I want to know what has changed since, especially since the Kdrama landscape has changed and you guys are always watching so many dramas, I'd also love to hear from Gummimochi, Heads and Kae for this one)

On a similar note, Since you guys have mentioned that you are writers I'd love to know what kind of stuff you guys like to write about outside dramas?

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Yaaaay! Good idea, although somewhat overwhelming for your guys, I'm sure.

My big question: what are your thoughts on all the ballads that get played in dramas? Even if the drama is excellent, there's generally some ill-conceived generic love ballad that gets frequently pasted in that cheapens the scene. Is it a nostalgic cultural thing and you don't mind, or does it annoy you just as much?

I also second whoever wanted to hear your thoughts on the changing subbing/drama-streaming landscape (i.e. dramacrazy just got taken down, but Dramafever hasn't caught up in terms of old Korean dramas, or Japanese dramas). Speaking of which, having watched the excellent Hana Yori Dango, why do you think Japanese dramas aren't as readily available as Korean dramas and movies? I'm thinking different business practices, but I'm not sure.

Thanks so much for answering questions, and everything else you guys do.

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What do you think American dramas can learn from Kdramas? I don't like Hollywood that much.
I'm aRussian-American convert to Kdramas from Bollywood, of all places. Just a few years, 30 or morw dramas, movies, and I understand 40% of spoken Korean. Maybe because it sounds like Russian sometimes, don't know. :)
I love that Korean actors, unlike Bollywood, can sing. But what about dancing? Bollywood is ahead in this department. Don't you think? Is that cultural thing? Thanks!

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American TV shows, movies, and dramas have their issues also. Just different ones. Just one example - in every disaster movie every made, there is some guy saying "everyone keep calm" and "if we all work together we can get through this". In the now airing drama "The Dome" it popped up yet again.

uhm.. OK.. the moon is falling, there is a 200 foot tidal wave coming in, and there is a volcano I my backyard - but I am supposed to keep CALM???

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Do people around you know of your online identities? If so, has fame affected the way they treat you? Has the success of this wonderful site changed your life goals/plans? If you could go back would you do it again? Or anything you would do differently?

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Ooooooh! Excellent questions, Sabah! I second that!

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Is it really taboo to touch in public when parting? Is it a Korean thing, a Kdrama thing, or is that how it really happens?

Is there any lowdown on why they don't have heating on the sets? Eg King to Hearts, inside the palace rooms and every breath flows with condensation! Happens in plenty of dramas, makes me scratch my head and wonder why!

I read your site every day and appreciate whatever you're willing to post. Pacing yourselves so as not to burn out, giving me many more years of quality reading and enjoyment is what I need from you :D

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I read in a lot of blogs that they have a floored heating system, one of the reasons they sleep on the floor and sit on the floor which personally I find quite clever.

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What is your favorite tv show (American or non-korean drama)? I'm curious, because I'm sure you also love tb shows in general...

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what is your opinion on the new generation of drama viewers? I have noticed in different blogs/forums/discussions more and more drama viewers stating they find dramas like Boys over Flowers and Playful Kiss to be "the best dramas ever" while, genuine, decent dramas that are well-acted, with a reasonable and understandable plot and characters are deemed "boring, old-fashionable, or even called trash". I see that all these new drama viewers decide right away if a drama is good or not just by looking at the main actors, if the main lead is an "ajusshi" (basically anyone who is not a flower boy) than automatically the drama sucks. I'm not saying that beautiful actors are not important, but I'll rather have a drama that makes sense and has actors that can ,well, act than have pretty boys just doing random things for an hour.

For example, I heard sooo many people say that on Gu Family Book Kang Chi and Yeo Wool had like the best romance ever (said in a valley-girl voice), but thought the story of Wool-Ryung and Seo-Hwa was pointless and a waste of screen time . Meanwhile, I personally thought that Kang Chi's parents story was the best part of the whole drama and was beautifully directed and acted.

Anyways long story short, it bothers me that more viewers would rather have idols and pretty boys in their screen, rather than good actors who can actually carry a story and it makes me worry about the impact this can have in Dramaland with broadcasting stations looking at ratings and deciding to follow what the people want.

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I have noticed that also, especially on sites like Drama Fever comments. Just for fun, I tracked one commenter, and she had posted "best drama ever" for about a dozen different shows. Makes you wonder at times....

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I think a lot of what your describing is probably from a really young audience that are not really looking beyond the surface and only deal with what they feel that moment in time. They want their hormone hottie hit and that is all.

I have a great fondness for BOF, it was totally cracktastic and I still find it highly enjoyable despite the silly production value issues and continuity errors but I'd never say it is the best drama ever.

There are always going to be the stereotypical squeeing fangurls; we have all been them to some degree, right? Gees. I think back to some of my crushes and shows I thought were the most awesome thing ever and think, was I very stoned?

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:D ...hormone hottie hit.... HHH

A new term for use here on DB :)

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Can you tell us the dramas that still stays with you? Drama that live on and you cant forget.

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I forgot to thank you for the podcasts you have done.
THANK YOU :D

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Can you tell us what you think about the drama 'At the End of the World'? There was mention of a summary of something but I think it didn't pan out.

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As a non-korean, I'm curious to know how accurate are the depictions of korean culture and society in dramas? And how do koreans feel about it? Also do you think the increased censorship by broadcasters (or actors strongly keeping their image of innocence) have lead to the decline of quality in dramas? I remember older dramas where characters smoked and cursed like normal people and they felt real but nowadays most characters feel like caricatures.

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What did you study at school and your professions?

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Just if anybody was wondering I'm pretty sure the picture up top is a picture of Jung Ga-eun as a radio dj...I recognize her from the SBS's Heroes she was a cast member until it was canceled.

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I feel so silly asking but this is a really specific question about a specific issue: I really did want to know what happened with the whole Park Shi Hoo thing. Just the final result. I got so annoyed with the whole thing I stopped looking at anything having to do with him (although i kept hoping he would be acquitted) but now dang! I'm just so curious.

Thanks.

Every once in a while i've seen k-movies with a Black character in it. (Am thinking of a movie with a Nigerian character who worked with a couple others in a mechanic shop. I think the hero had the power to freeze people or stop time or to move faster than everyone else's speed. Saw it a while back so it's all fuzzy.) Or someone from India or whatever. I wonder if there are any dramas which might have the odd dark foreigner in it as a character with say ten or so lines. Just curious to see how that is portrayed.

Other than that, I would be interested in pretty much anything you guys discussed. Thanks.

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Ooh i know that movie! It's Haunters (Kang Dong Won's in it). I remember that the Turkish man speaks korean really well.

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ockoala has kept track of it on her blog.

http://koalasplayground.com/tag/park-shi-hoo/

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Thoughts on the endless supply of rich guy meets poor girl dramas? I mean they are fun to watch in the beginning but they really get repetitive after awhile especially when the heroine has no backbone and doesn't ever stand up for herself...I've read quite a few articles on the Grand Narrative that gave me a bit of insight on feminism and women's rights in SK and they seem quite lacking compared to other developed countries, do you guys think that is a major factor in the overflow of totally passive heroines that are in many of the dramas? Maybe a few thoughts on overall women's rights in SK and how it impacts kdramas and Kpop...

Anyway...thanks for all of the recaps you do...sometimes I like to read them even if I've seen the episode just to get the recapper's thoughts on the episode...you guys are just that awesome...

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Technically - that is going by what laws are on the books - South Korea is not that far behind other developed countries. What happens in actual life though is a lot different.

South Korea is in a state of social turmoil - old (many outdated) traditions colliding with the modern world. An old US Navy saying applies here as well: "200 years of tradition unmarred by progress".

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hi Javabeans and company!

How about considering having a male among your staff? would be fun to hear male insight on kdrama land issues.

what you think?

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