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Good Morning My Wondrous Beans!
So far….I might like Two Weeks the best out of the new stuff. I haven’t checked out Her Legend but then again I’m not very interested in that. Who Are You is better than I expected and Taec is doing a much-improved job, but it’s not great – better ghosts than Master’s Sun, though. Which is ok…but the ghosts are neither here nor there. They’re not entirely scary but they’re not entirely cartoon-y, either. I hate to admit it but I think So Ji Sub is good in this role. Just the right amount of asshole mixed with straight man. This one seems like it might be ok…but I was hoping for something different than this – more camp. Good Doctor – I’m going to like the parts with the doctors and nurses interacting, and the medical ethics/business necessities of who/how/when to treat/not treat patients. I’m going to get tired of the hospital political machinations. Also: hate that song, but they were playing some good stuff as background music.
Also watching ISWAK-2, Blade and Petal, YTB, LSS, GoM – plus others here and there. Tired this week. So tired. Don’t really feel like talking or anything.
I'm dead tired too and I have no real reason for that. (Let's blame the weather: Back to 22°C in the day and 11°C at night...)
Maybe that's why I like only 25 to 50% of what I've been given in the new dramas. IHYV has left a gaping hole & nothing can replace it.
I may watch my J doramas this WE: Yae No Sakura never disappoints and Starman is good.
29° to 30° C for us and I feel like dying.
it's 35 - 40°C here T_____T. Telling myself it's at least better than AZ or TX.
Ah, the ending of Ep 5 of Starman LOL !
*energy vibes* Why are you tired?
Make yourself a nice culpa, put your feet up and watch a feel-good-drama.
Which begs the question, what are everyone's to go to dramas when they need something to cheer them? You know, a drama you've watched a gazillion times already but that you'll rewatch precisely when you are tired / stressed / annoyed / etc. to make you feel better.
I think mine are Kimi wa Petto and Nodame Cantabile, for the laughs. Even an episode or two of them is balm on the soul. Or Love Shuffle for all the panda jokes and pajama parties. And for cheesy romantic pick-me-up, Tatta Hitotsu no Koi.
I'm reading the Nodame Cantabile manga at work. It's great for a laugh and a pick me up.
I'm also reading Totto-chan, the Little Girl at the Window by Tetsuko Kuroyanagi.
It's delightful, I learned about it via the Nodame manga)
Yotsubato! That manga cheers me up no end.
Never heard of Totto-chan... I'm going to have to look for that now...
Totto-Chan - great suggestion! I only read the novel though.
Yup, Toto-Chan is a good book. So rare to find this time. Refreshing and funny. You look the world from the perspective of a 5 or 6 years old girl (sorry, it was too long, I forget the actual age). Ironically, it was just before the WWII.
Funny mistake. Sorry, Alua, couldn't help.
I think my pick-me-up drama would have to be any of the Mischievous Kiss adaptations. I love the story and it always makes me giddy like a school girl.
Flower boy ramyun shop. Do we have to keep to one?
I didn't keep to one. :-D
Oh ya :). Coffee prince makes me feel warm and happy and also best love for a good laugh AND cry.
My return-to pick-me-up shows:
KDrama - The Greatest Love - Luurve CSW as Dokko Jin, the man-child. My favorite Hong Sister's show.
TWDrama - Drunken To Love - no matter what episode I pick, the show makes me smile, mostly because of the interaction between the prickly Joseph Chang and the bull-headed Rainie Yang that nevertheless twists him up in knots.
JDorama - Hotaru no Hikari - slob vs OCD FTW. Plus, Fujiki Nahohito.
Thai Lakhorn - Yes, believe it or not, I have two I frequently return to. #1 is "Love Never Dies" because you can't beat a rich, sensitive, hottie vampire who doesn't have sun issues. lol
yay shukie ! it's my fave hong sisters show too although it helps that the only other completed ones were big and delightful girl chun hyang.
my go-to drama: Delightful Girl Choon Hyang, You're Beautiful and Playful Kiss :)
My pick-me-up drama: You're Beautiful. It was my first drama too! Currently re-watching, in fact...
Me too! Just today I watched ep 7 (the countryside pig chase one).
I'm the opposite... When I'm feeling rather down, I'm more likely to pick up a tearjerker or something a little more gritty/dramatic; it feels nice to have a good cry sometimes (or to see someone more in the sh*t than you are. Sorry. ^^;).
On the other hand, I do marathon a whole load of feel-good films like Chungking Express, Sunny, Her Fatal Ways or Kamikaze Girls though.
Oh, wait. I lied. In times of stress, there's an old Hong Kong drama I like to watch for laughs. It's called Old Time Buddy.
Ah, so much feels for Love Shuffle. Constantly reminded of it every time I rewatch Pushing Daisies and Olive is off on her rendition of "Eternal Flame".
Hormones are completely out of wack these days, so...there are times when I'm reallllllly tired and others when I can't sleep at all. I'm just ready for the weekend and some napping this time around.
Comfort shows...I've only been watching KDramas about 3 years. I've seen certainly over 100 at this point, but when you compare that to a lifetime of reading and English-language movies...
(Almost literally on the reading...I began to read before I was 4. I remember stumbling over 'neighbor' and my dad being frustrated. We were sitting on the stairs near the bookcase. The sun was shining and I thought the wood looked pretty, but I was keenly aware of letting my dad down. A very easygoing man who rarely spoke sharply, but first I read 'free-end' for friend and then 'nayg-bor' for neighbor. I was not yet in kindergarten.)
Anyway. I will randomly pick a book out of a book case somewhere in the house and just open it up to anywhere and read a bit. Most of the books I own I've read more than once, so landing in a random spot is usually still a familiar place. I have that odd memory that can't recall quotes unaided (or give directions) but can usually tell you where and when I first read a particular paragraph if that first reading happened before I was 20 or so.
MIne is definitely Nodame Cantabile (and some Spanish dramas, hehe :)
Hi there! New girl here!
For pick me ups!
I love Otomen! Basically the only drama I've watched over and over more then five times! It's pure nonsense! I also watch my boss my hero and anime version of outran high school host club! I love the drama too! But the anime is my anti depressant! Oh and Kanjanis Eito movie with the baby!
Masaki Okada from Otomen is sooo beautiful. He is naturally good looking and considered one of the best 'Soushoku' Otoko. My daughter cannot help smiling and giggling while she was watching Otomen. The actor's real personality seems very adorable and genuine.
Otomen was so ... you know like a vacuum cleaner. It kinda sweeps your mind clean cause it is so unbelievably crazy ass mindblanking thing. so if you ever need to sweep your memory or get over a drama blue, this is the one. like seeing an alien dance charleston with a cow.
Oh good question. I've got a couple of go-to's. My Name is Kim Sam Soon, That Fool, and Guilty. Guilty is dark but it's a revenge drama I love.
no question, Kim Sam Soon is number 1 on my list! Also Goong, Coffee Prince and Secret Garden. Last Scandal and 9 End, 2 Outs. Clearly, I am on the 'mature' side of the viewing group! That Fool is adorable.
Oh I love watching That Fool, that is something that can turn a bad day good. I feel it is underrated in that Hwang Jung Min was carrying the drama at first but everyone came together and conflicts were at a minimum just lovely
I LOVE Bad Family! That one I think is my all time favorite, so I can pick which parts I want to watch (like the proposal scene! Hee!)
Cheering up dramas-I'd say Flower Boy Raymun Shop, The Woman That Still Wants to Marry, and I'm rewatching Flower Boy Next Door right now and feel that is probably a good pick me up too.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'll see if I can find them.
My Pick me ups are SKK Scandal(the grand confession), Secret Garden (in the car driving off into the storm), Princess's Man (at the river when she takes the arrow for him)... hmm, I guess I like the punches to the heart over the laughs... oh well.
OMG! I thought I was the only one who watched someone getting SHOT by an arrow to cheer me up! Love that scene so much! I'm glad that I'm not the only one :)
I always find myself going back to Hana Yori Dango whenever I'm dramaless. You can never get too much of Inoue Mao!
As for Korean Dramas, I've probably watched Iljimae a few time already just for the laughs.
Nodame Cantabile is adorable, rewatched it a couple of times. but You´re Beautiful never ceases to cheer me up. first time I watched it I was super depressed, literally had not laughed for 3 months. I was really super super down and worn out from everything so I basically like cried 8 hours a day. somehow Jang Geun-Suk´s antiques made me laugh even when I thought it would be impossible. so I am quite grateful to that drama and watch it sometimes.
also, it doesnt exist yet, but there is nothing that would make me feel better than if they made Bleach into a drama. omg please. the first quarter of the story was really cute and funny
Hope that tired phase goes off soon, joAnne.
Am a bit disappointed in master's sun so far too. I was hoping for best love cersion 2 i think and it may still happen i guess. In any case, as you pointed out, so ji sub is good here. I am finding him very sexy. This is my first encounter with him. His face is not one i would find very attractive ( too lean and sharp) but in this role, he is. Attractive that is.
I watched the Master's Sun and found it just OK. Not like My Girlfriend is a Gumiho crack. I checked out We Got Married Global and found that laugh out funny. Ok, I haven't laughed so much in the months. Taec is such the epitome of adorkable. The end was so sad. Hopefully the "couples" can keep in touch and stay good friends. Also checked out Who Are You? and Good Doctor (so far the best in the new season). Meaning to check out Two Weeks. That's just the K-drama world. So many dramas and so little time.
yes it's just ok for now. but I can see that it may potentially be fantastic crack later on. esp if they do away with the maudlin ghost stories!
I'm finding Master's Sun an okay watch, even if I agree with what most people say.
It's not over the top camp, but, after "Show That Must Not Be Named", the Hong Sisters seemed to be back on the right track with what they do best: lampshade meta, and subtle dialogue gems.
JoAnne, do you like ISWAK 2? I just finished it this week and my have fallen in love!
I doooooooooooo. Joe Cheng is not particularly attractive to me but the way he looks at Ariel Lin and just melts with desire IS. Love the way he invades her space and gets all cozy, and very much appreciating the frank yet tasteful approach to sex. I mean, they're barely 20 and they're married...they SHOULD be doing it like rabbits and he SHOULD be all over her. It's not quite like that but at least they're not on twin mats on the floor.
I'm actually way more attracted to Jiro Wang's arms than anything else...but I'm just at the point where she starts nursing school, so we'll see what happens.
That look is the best, right! Can you believe they get even cuter?
Ha, you and I are exactly on the same page, about ISWAK 1 & 2 and particularly Joe and the spectacular chemistry he has with Ariel Lin. Its their onscreen partnership that is always going to make the Taiwan version the best of all the Itazura versions. I have to say, that boy can smooch like nobody's business; that honeymoon kissing scene ,,,, WOW!!
Have you checked them out in Love Or Bread? I understand the chemistry is there again, tho perhaps the story not as engaging as ISWAK.
I started watching Joe in Love Actually with Lee Da Hae, but am only about halfway through. He looks a shadow of his former self at the start, but either I got used to his pale and slender new look, or the infamous location catering you always hear about added a few much needed pounds.
I think that my jaw dislocated when I first saw the honeymoon kiss scene. With K-dramas being my primary form of entertainment for almost a year I was not expecting that... but I have NO compaints. I cheated and watched the 2nd one first and now am going back to the first one and it's kind of hard not to be like "Xiang Qin, don't worry... that boy will kiss the bejezes out of you!"
I would love to watch Love or Bread... but I haven't found it anywhere yet... I am still on the hunt though.
Is Love or Bread the one with the French title (Patisserie et l'Amour or something like that?)?
I haven't seen it subbed anywhere.
Its so nice that we are still talking about ISWAK! We fell on our seats and with our hands covering our mouths when we saw the honeymin scene.. I feel like watching it again, and this is really one drama that i can watch even if its redone hundred times.
I remember getting a picture with Joe Cheng's wax figure in Hong Kong! Hehe
Have a nice weekend!
Hi JoAnne, I love ISWAK 2. God knows how many times I've seen it. I agree that there is nothing spectacular about Joe Cheng (he's cute, but no where near what Xiang Qin thinks about Zhi Shu :) We can forgive her, as she is in love.), but I love his chemistry with Ariel Lin. And yes, Jiro Wang is the cuter of the two (although I do not like his new, plastic-surgery nose).
I agree that since Zhi Shu and Xiang Qin are married, it is normal that they would have a sex life (something that is not even hinted at in many k-dramas). In the second season, Zhi Shu will realize how important his wife is to him. I normally wouldn't be attracted to a drama in which a "perfect, intelligent, can-do-no-wrong" sort of man mistreats and disrespects his "plain-Jane, can't-do-anything-right" love interest. But there is something about the second season that just grabs me. Part of the reason is because, by the latter portion, Zhi Shu does grow to truly love and respect his wife. His personality is somewhat different at the beginning of the second season, but it takes a while for him to truly respect his wife 100 percent. That transformation happens over the course of twenty episodes. Sorry, did not mean to turn this into an essay :) Keep watching and I hope that you enjoy the whole second season.
Drooool. I remember. That is why I love this version, the chemistry between the two leads. The honeymoon...
I know! I love this show too. ISWAK is one of the first dramas I ever watched, so of course when ISWAK2 came out I was thrilled. That was before I was really into Korean dramas. Oh 2008 :-)
What is ISWAK 2?
It is shgort for It Started With A Kiss 2 (aka They Kiss Again)
I seriously need new batteries for my keyboard. short is what I ment to say
I liked ISWAK 2! I found the chemistry and relationship between the leads to be incredibly believable. Master's Sun isn't laugh-out-loud funny just yet but I think there's hope for such moments in the future. I'm liking it alot so far and I hope there isn't any reason for my optimism to dim. I'm looking forward to starting Two Weeks at some point during the weekend to fill my action/crime slot left by HC. I'm finding dramaverse to be a bit tiring lately so I'm probably just going to stick with Sun and Weeks. Squeeing (and/or snarking) takes up alot of energy.
Feel better JoAnne and get some rest :). Hoepfully, the drama's will be worth feeling tired for.
"Her Legend" actually looks pretty good so far, but we have not moved on to the later (adulthood) portions yet, so hard to tell for sure. On the other hand, it is looking like we already have a lot of the usual overdone plot devices in place - evil stepsister, evil stepmother, and chaebol prince. So while looking good so far, it could also end up like YTBLSS.
I think the ghosts in Masters Sun are supposed to be pretty fake, so I can live with it for now.
Happy Friday Beansies! Hope everyone has been well and keeping busy with OMG THERE ARE WAY TOO MANY DRAMAS OUT THERE TO WATCH AND MY BRAIN IS EXPLODING!!! Maybe in my feebleness it's a good thing I can only concentrate on a few at a time. I'm already in Work Hour 52 this week with no end in sight, so I'm keeping a low profile on the chat boards.
Almost caught up on "Blade and Petal" and love it to pieces! Depending on how it ends (and if it doesn't sink into Noble Idiocy Land first), it has a really good chance to be added to my Top Five Sageuk List. I see people complaining that it's slow and plodding, but does every drama Yeouido spits out always need to be action-packed? I had questions about Kim Ok-bin's return to the small screen, but she's doing a magnificent job. Umforce is burning up the sets as expected. And Choi Freakin' Min-soo? Just keep doing what you're doing, sweetie. RAWR.
Caught the first two premieres of "Master's Sun" and "Two Weeks." Jury is still out on both; I'll need another couple of eps before putting one or the other on my Watch List. But I'm kinda learning towards "TW" if only for Lee Jun-ki. Is all.
REALLY looking forward to "Medical Top Team" in October, if only to see Joo Ji-hoon (*squeeee*) act rings around his fellow cast-mates. And now that the production has added Alex to the mix, could I hope for an on-set duet between those two? SQUEEEEEE!!! With "MTT" going square up against "Heirs," the fall season is looking more promising as the days go by!
My Precious Ji Chang-wook continues his World Domination of Japan while starring in "Brothers Were Brave" at the Amuse Musical Theatre in Roppongi. Three weeks total over there, and then it's back to the grind for another six weeks starring in "Jack the Ripper" back in Seoul. But I am very concerned about the boy, as Chang-wook has been diagnosed with early-onset nodes on his vocal chords and he has been ordered to not speak or sing on his days off. Left untreated, this affliction would be a career-killer for him, but he's getting good treatment and once his musical appearances have ended, he may have 22 months to recover thereafter. (Just a speculation, but all clues lead to a 'forced absence' this fall. And I will go hide in a cave right afters.)
"Secretly and Greatly," "The Terror Live," and "Rai Maitima" are all scheduled to play out here in Cupertino within the next few months, so I will definitely play hooky in order to catch one or all three. I may also zip down to LA to catch others planned to play at the CGV. So LA peeps, you have been warned. ;)
Alright, time to go yell at people with J.D.s behind their names for not following directions. Later today I will be posting my recap for the Finale of "Five Fingers" and not a moment too soon… the first anniversary of the premiere episode is 18 August. Better late than not at all. Seeyas on the flip side!
Eid Mubarak to everyone who celebrates it.
1. Who are You? ep 1 - 4.
Actually I expected Cha Gun Woo - Yang Shi On's relationship is like Choi Siwon - Lee Ji Ah's in Athena. But here, Gun Woo is a bit noisy and Shi On is too weak. I need a badass senior female cop and brave-thoughtful- hotblooded-handsome junior. Their first case is too easy and unbelievable, but I'm okay with it. I guess it matches its genre as human drama.
As for the actors, I don't know much about them. I watched Cinderella's Sister, Dream High and Heartstrings. They are not my favourite drama but I found Taecyeon and Yihyun are quite likeable there. Hope some character development later.
Kim Jae Wook; haven't seen him in anything before, he looks damn sexy with that casual outfit. Kdramaland indeed needs to dress their character in that kind of clothes rather than wearing suit 24/7 *cough Personal Taste cough*
***spoiler*** Case 1: The school girl ghost didn't speak at all because she was mute when she was alive. Case 2: The ghost also didn't speak, but she was not mute. Does it mean that Kim Jae Wook will also not speaking at all until the show ends? *crying* ***end of spoiler***
2. Puberty Medley ep 2: It's a Secret. Still find it amusing, pure teenage world.
3. Marathoned IHYV this week. *late swooning* Lee Jong Suk is so amazing, how he portrays Suha. I still find some Go Nam Soon traces here, with better personality, lots of smile and some goal in life. Unlike some heroes, he's more rational, especially in last episode when he tried to save Hyesung. I still can feel his pain when he cried HS's name from the rooftop. Painful. Suha ya, will you protect this noona, too?
Another thing I love about this show is Hyesung - Doyeon frenemy relationship. They are so hillarious. Both are bold and shameless, did wrong once in a while but they admitted it. It's not an angel vs demon rival kind and I'm glad that they are only rivals in courtroom with an unamusing conflict in the past. They are not perfect and look more like human. Like people we often see in daily life. So relatable and easy to love. And it proves that enemy / rival doesn't need to chase after one man all the time.
4. Family Bandage.
When almost every drama blames the parent for giving less attention to their kids and being the bad guys who left to blame to juvenile deliquency, it gives both point of views. "What kind of daughter you are to your parents?"
5. Scandal: It shows some developments but not surprising since we all have known about who the real son is. actually I expect nothing from this drama but more screentime for KJW.
But I don't understand why:
~ the bad guy marrying the mistress when it's obvious that he doesn't like her. Too many evidences. He looks annoyed everytime she is nearby.
~ the legal wife even commit such dangerous scandal (brought an orphan and admit him as her own son) just so the bad guy doesn't divorce her. It's too obvious that she doesn't like him. They live like stranger.
This 2 weeks I found Woo Ahmi less annoying since she less talking. Thank God. Can we keep her like that until the show finished?
6. Sword and Flower ep 8: can't comment anything yet.
7. Two weeks, Good Doctor, Master Sun: haven't started yet... Which one is the best and worth watching first?
Have a nice weekend and happy holiday. :)
Kim Jae Wook - I've seen everything he has done. He is on the short list of Korean actors I like to dream about. Who Are You so far hasn't given me enough screen time with KJW, but I only watched 2 episodes so far.
He shows up at the very end of Episode 4. Prepare to gird your loins. Not that he does anything except be his normal incredibly beautiful self... but I think he's back in it to stay since clearly the big arc is solving what happened that night.
Do any romances with ghosts end well?
- you stay in love, live out the rest of your days alone
- you die to be with him
- he haunts you
- you fall in love with someone living, and let go of dead lover
If you are laying odds, usually you don't bet on the dead guy winning. Unless it is a Zombie movie (Warm Bodies anyone?)
I have been meaning to say this but WAY's basic premise reminds me of Natsuyuki Rendezvous (http://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=44998) in which the guy I root for to get the girl will never get her because he is dead.
I choose reincarnation since it indicates that both are alive. But I guess she will end up with his junior, he's the main lead here.
@Julia the Berkshire Beanie- I've noticed we seem to have similar taste - KJW - (I said in-my-dreams too, in my comment #18). See what I mean ? :)
I have noticed your excellent taste. :-)
Kim Jae Wook_ he was good in Bad Guy, better than Kim Nam Gil in the same drama in my opinion. He was good in Antique Bakery. He speaks flawless Japanese when I first heard him talk Japanese, I thought he is Japanese( I am Japanese) When every male actor somehow resemble each other, he seems quite different from others. He has an unique edge...very sexy with his own sense of style.
He is 1/2 Japanese 1/2 Korean in Coffee Prince. Loved Antique Bakery. And he has a small part in Dalja's Spring~
I think I'm the only one here who has no luck of witnessing Kim Jae Wook's previous works. :( I have copy of Bad Guy in my laptop but haven't watched it yet since my friend told me it's sad ending and I'm not a fan of Coffee Prince, I watched some episodes but it looks like just another typical kdrama. Maybe I was wrong because I didn't watch completely.
I was not happy with Bad Guy either. Kim Nan Gil figure( the main lead) was all gloomy and there was not much rapport with Ha Ga in( the female lead) but i thought Kim Jae wook gave a memorable acting,,, good at portraying self destruction,,, or his skinny figure might help the fragile state of his mind?? Among all Kim Jae wook works, I like Antique Bakery the best. He was with Ju ji hoon and Yoo ah in and they had a good rapport. The story is based on a Japanese manga but a sort of childishness that we often encounter with manga based dramas does not exist with this movie. It's rather quarkie and witty.
Sad ending?? For coffee prince??..No way..There is a sad bit near the end when the whole "secret" comes out..But it has such a cute couple ending..I suggest you give it another go. :)
Scandal: I think the main reason that she adopted the fake "real son" was so that she could stay married to the main asshole, and continue to search for her real son (ie, money and position).
I see...money and power do help.
Nothing much to report, I haven't been watching anything much – haven't yet gotten started on any of the new series and somehow not watching much else either (too busy & need to preview a lot of films for a film festival. Unfortunately they must remain unnamed at this point.)
I only watched an old dorama called A Sleeping Forest, which had plenty potential and good cast, but in the end was kind of mehhh. Too many connections among the characters. Too many absolute lunatics in love. Yuri was plain annoying (talk about a needy person! Although I'm sorry about what happened to her, I'm glad *spoiler* she didn't end up with Kimutaku's character in the end). All the parents were messed up (that cheating / child abuse really wasn't needed).
On the upside, a super young looking Kimutaku with long hair at least made for eye candy.
Oh, did watch the second episode of Good Doctor, totally cringing on how they talking about autism ("cure"!!!!), but I rather love the Gaksital guy's character (forgot his name).
Need to: watch Two Weeks, only reading recaps for Master's Sun for now (if I keep hearing good things I'll give it a try), need to catch up on Starman, Woman, Gerikyuu, etc.
Has anyone tried Oh, My Dad?
Contacted Yesasia about my missing order, and they got back right away, saying it might have gotten lost in the mail and that they would reship everything. Fingers crossed I'll get a parcel soon.
New Yorkers: MOMA is screening a number of Korean films today and tomorrow still.
I saw your reply on the Monstar post yesterday :(. I had already made plans for today with a couple of friends as a goodbye hang out but I'm going to see if I can make it at least see the 7pm showing of Azooma. It's the one I'm the most interested in since it seems up my alley and surprisingly a friend of mine who is new to the kdrama scene is excited about it and pushing for me to go.
To anyone who is interested: the ticket prices for adults are $12, elderly: $10, and students: $8.
Thanks for trying to keep me in the loop even though you live across the pond lol :).
I haven't watched Azooma yet, I think it's supposed to be quite dark.
Sleepness Night, an indie, has had some very good reviews, but I haven't seen it yet myself. White Night is good, but probably not everyone's cup of tea (saw the whole trilogy from that director during the London Lesbian & Gay Film Festival earlier this year).
No worries about keeping you in the loop, I'm follow various film-related Korean associations (in NY, London, LA and Australia at the moment) on Twitter, so as to help spreading the word about Korean Film.
Which reminds me, aussies, KOFFIA is holding a PAJAMA PARTY for the screenings of My P.S. Partner. How awesome is that! Now I just have to convince the London Korean Film Festival to do the same in the autumn......
It sounds dark :). I remember reading something about putting dental training to good use. My friend doesn't really like dark movies and likes to opt for the fun rom-com but I think she (and I) want to at least experience seeing a Korean movie in a theater. She's leaving Saturday and I'm not sure if I could make it to the other movie showings even though both Nights sound interesting. I would probably be more motivated to make some work arounds if I had someone to go with (and if it was free, haha. It's back-to-school time after all).
I recommend watching My PS Partner for any folks who are thinking about going. The PJs part sounds like icing on the cake!
So not gonna watch Good Doctor. Oh and don't ever get me started on the craze to put certain illnesses in dramas. It depends on the consultants the writers meet with, the pop culture about folks with autism, the plot mechanics. And somehow, it always just upsets the crap outta me.
My husband is on the Asperger's Spectrum. My son is mute autistic disabled and I've got fibromyalgia and sometimes I find myself totally unable to turn on American TV because of some silly show that has some illness all wrong.
I hope you get your order soon.
Yes, don't then. The translation has been called into question for the subs: they used curable when it should have been treatable, etc, and I can't imagine why you'd want to put yourself through the aggravation.
Initially it seemed as though he might be on the high end of Aspergers but I'm not so sure now. There are some other touches in the portrayal that are a bit ..not that. I can tell you at least that Joo Won looks like he made a real attempt to understand and build that into his portrayal and he's a very sympathetic and likeable character. His treatment at the hands of medical professionals is laughable when you consider their lack of even basic knowledge but given the issues presented by the character so far I actually have sympathy for their objections. I found myself thinking that he'd be a wonderful diagnostician, a la House...but he's no House. That's for sure.
I know what you mean.
I have a feeling I'll end-up skip watching the drama – I really like the hero so far, but the people around him... and how they treat him... I mean, we're in a hospital full of doctors who should *know* what autism is.
I was wondering if some of it is, like JoAnne suggested below, perhaps just a mistranslation, but I have my doubts. The "cure" might have been "treat" but even so the context that was said in was awkward and the way the arrogant doc treats him is as if he has no knowledge of dealing with people with autism. Which would be fine if it was a random person of the street, but the guy's a doctor!
Yeah, don't put yourself through the heartache...
I'm watching "The Good Doctor" from the perspective of someone who has a nephew on the Autistic spectrum (originally they said Aspergers, but I'm suspecting it's more serious). The kid is never going to live independently - he's in his 20's and can barely hold a part time job. He graduated from a private high school that focuses on kids with learning disabilities, but has done poorly at the local community college. I was upset with the "cure" line too - but hearing that it might be translated as "treatment" makes more sense.
And, yeah, I think that doctors and nurses would be way more informed about what autism is - and is not. But maybe its different outside the states.
Lately there have been so many articles on how TV dramas portray folks on the asperger/autism spectrum. Because apparently Hollywood has gone wild creating certain characters.
It seems to be their way of making the person into a genius, an otherworldly-ultra-evolved type, a sociopathic person, a demonizing of the person...all to fit into the plot of the story. And that bugs the crap outta me.
And what gets me is they rarely talk about the whole health stuff that some of these folks go through with allergies, stomach, respiratory ailments.
They may do the stomach bit... at least the guy was refusing to eat just any food offered to him and Raine (on her blog) was suggesting that it might be because they are actually picking up on his food issues. Not sure yet though.
as long as they don't make it some sort of weird flaky food fetish thing.
The thing is, and I am truly sorry, because I don't live with anyone who has autism, if I am wrong, please do correct me.
I know some people who first suggested by their doctors to go to diet-therapy to minimize autism. And then they go to another doctor for diet-therapy too for themselves to help live healthier and longer.
But the way to decide which kind of food is bad to you, I can't find the logic behind it.
The only hospital-doctor's K-drama that I really watched from first to end was 'Brain'. And only 'House' until its second seasons did I watch, more because I like the personality and the 'Sherlock-ish' approach to each symptoms. Although sometimes I still thought that was bizarre.
As for the "cure" translation. It's a viable option for the drama ONLY because so many people invest MONEY in curing rather than treating. I'd greatly prefer for them to focus on the treatment aspect. And people with manifestations as severe as Si-oh NEED AN AIDE! It's not a horrible thing. He would function so much better and he'd have someone to understand him and he wouldn't be LONELY. This character is so ridiculously lonely.
Carole - I think he may have some food/texture issues but he is not manifesting some other super common traits for someone as severe as he is. He doesn't rock at all, which is pretty common. But he does seem to have food texture aversion. I'd like to see the show address how to interact and really fully enjoy the company of someone like Si-oh because these people are wonderful! And they're PEOPLE!
It depends on where on the spectrum a person is. Cures are fairly impossible but in some rare cases, food, technology, supplements, and behavior modification really help the person's health and social issues. The food changes and dealing with the gut-brain reaction can really improve some autism tendencies, if a neurological issue is at the root cause of the illness. Often it's neurological and congenital..and sometimes even genetic or perinatal. Sometimes it's nutritional or cause by some assault to the baby in utero...virus, infection, vaccine. But for the most part no one knows...only that the rate of autism is rising so the cause could be environmental, fungal, the state of modern processed foods, medical interference for good or ill because (some say) some of these kids are kids who lived but who would've died if not for modern medicine.
Some folks don't rock, btw. The rocking is done as a kind of self-stimming and some kids find other ways to self-stimulate. An some get very quiet and seem to be staring out into space. and some just get into some kind of self-created loop.
It's very true..some kids need an aide especially if they are out in the world. or to help them when they're outside of their homes. and if the person tends to wander. and of course one has to balance the aide against learned helplessness
the food thing --wow! so many areas there. The dislike of textures, the preference for certain kinds of foods (like gluten, white rice, noodles, sweets), the horrible food-related illnesses and reactions.
plus the way different parents and grandparents deal with the situation. Some dads give in to everything and pretty much ruin the kids' health by allowing the cravings...some grandparents treat the kid as a favorite.
I've been trying to ignore all the wrong medical speak and actions. Here is small example of how they get it wrong. What hospital has only two pediatric surgeons but a dozen pediatric surgical residents? While senority is very important in the US, there is no way that a septic patient who needs surgery immediately would be sidelined to wait for the surgeon who did the original surgery. Also, a pediatrician would check on the patient in addition to surgical rounds and noticed the problems. The pediatrician is the primary doc regardless of the surgeon. Yes, a lot of surgeons have a god complex but this was ridiculous.
Still, so far this was the most interesting show. I've been watching it the same way I watched IHYV, ignore all the legal stuff and watch it for the rest of the story. Hopefully, GD will also have a compelling story beyond the medical.
Every time they said that autism was curable my feathers got ruffled. I detest the spread of mis-information.
For example in the show School 2013 there was a character with Learning Disablities, my children are learning disabled, the character was wrong in so many ways. Learning disabled and mentally disabled are two different conditions and I would venture to say that that character was mentally disabled. Fortunately, he was not a lead in the show so I could ignore him.
it's funny...on the one hand, i want to say "okay k-dramafolks...obviously, the whole "Marathon" thing brought autism out into the open and i applaud you trying to do something for the cause..for any cause. After all, i've seen some korean movies and dramas which make korean therapy an attitude toward mental illness seem downright medieval....but when they try get the facts wrong!!! Aaargh!
And i suppose this is the problem with a lot of goodwill well-meant programming...whether it's tackling homosexuality or interracial marriage or mental illness.... they writers mean well..but aish!!!! folks have to suffer through their well-meant crap.
the show has stereotypes, i agree and they would hvae done better just to give him a social phobia of sorts. and they are already hinting at "not 100 % cured" what.... ???
And this is why I wrote my blog post on the show. I was so happy to see autism on t.v. with good acting and some veritable symptoms and how people react to those with autism...and then...there's all that other stuff.
It's hard to watch stuff that you're really familiar with . Music based dramas always drive me nuts because I'm a professional musician. I've been teaching kids with disabilities for years and I worked in the school system as a para for a while. But it's dramaland. I can only imagine how the laywers feel about the scenes in IHYV
Since you are willing to watch some J drama, I would like to recommend Hanzawa Naoki. The drama is not about romance but it is about a salary man who works for one of the biggest banks in Japan. He was set up to fail by his superior and got caught with banking scandal. This drama is based on manga, I believe but it has much depth. The cast members are quite strong. The main lead（Masato Sakai) is not my cup of tea but he is good. Other side casts are excellent with two crafty Kabuki actors as an irritable IRS agent and as a top banker(teruyuki, Kagawa). ( though it is not translatable, the IRS guy(Ainosuke, Kataoka) sounds very much gay and quite neurotic .)Despite of no romance and rather serious social drama, currently Hanzawa commands a very high rating in Japan.
Both actor, Kagawa and Sakai paired with the latest movie called 'Key of Life' which is actually a very fun movie to watch.
ooh my! That drama sounds so fun!!!! I think I'll watch it as well.
Masato Sakai is one of my absolute faves. He does have a kind of weirdly stylistic way of acting and speaking his parts but there is something so flaky about his movie choices. Key of life was good ..as was a film in which he played a guy grieving for his dead wife. Legal high was fun..as was ooku. He has the ability to look incredibly handsome, or quintessentially Japanese, or very eccentric oddball or everyman. totally love this guy.
thanks for mentioning this drama. am watching it now.
I tend to watch more J than K dramas... slice of life (which I prefer) is so rare in K-drama, but you'll find it again and again in J-dramas.
I'll check out Hanzawa Naoki, thanks for the recommendation!
i love slice of life..but wow, when it's mixed with J-drama preachiness and sentimentaliy...aaargh! if the end product works, then it's good...but if not..i just want to cringe. Facile philosophy and easy sentimental spirituality drives me nuts. It's all so deeply-shallow sometimes i want to scream.
Am liking Hanzawa Naoka now. Very tense with the j-drama love of obsessive characters who know something really well and can puzzle through the possibilities of it..like a game.
Main character's wife, though... oh my gosh! her sweetness and childlike maternal care for her husband ...it can be too much.
Okay, all caught up on Two Weeks. I'm 100% in!
They can reduce the hospital scene 75% though. And more of Ms Prosecutor, loving her already!
I don't need a romantic story line in this one (in fact, at the moment, I would rather not have one), but if they do, can I ship Mrs. Prosecutor with our lead? The ex-girlfriend is pretty boring so far...
On the GD and the "cure"-I always take the translation of cure to mean treatment/management/therapy/medication/surgery, not that someone is actually completely "cured" of anything. I could be wrong, though.
Hi everyone! Finally started watching Heartless City after hearing so much good stuff about it. Currently almost reaching the halfway mark. There have already been so many twists and turns in the story, I really don't know what to expect next!
I became a fan of Jung Kyung Ho after watching Smile, You and he is so different in this show, which is great. So thankful for the abs that come from army duty :D :D But i still love looking at that baby face of his.
I am still a little skeptical of Nam Gyuri (mainly cos of her plastic face I guess) and am eagerly awaiting what she will offer in the episodes to come.
The twists and turns are the best part of HC, pretty much until the end. Also, hot Doctor's Son moments.
Much like Eric and Que Sera Sera, Baksa Adeul must continue to be mentioned weekly in the OT, from now until the end of time.
Excuse me while I go cry a little more.
ohhh Eric in Que Sera Sera! he was quite sexy in there (and also a bit in Myungwol the Spy). he and Jung Kyung-ho smoulder very well indeed.
oooooh, Jung Kyung-ho. Definitely the best 'hey, when did THAT one get so hot?!' discovery of the year. That performance was pretty much flawless, and I pretty much want my own Baksa now :)
Also, that show led me to a renewed appreciation of three-piece suits.
Navy, black or grey? (Or is it just any color suit on Baska, which is what I'm going with~)
I love ALL the suits. It just makes me think of how fast I'd want to get it off his perfect body, lol.
hahaha. just not quite the stripey socks... well, at least have decent-length trousers so they don't show when he sits down.
i love Shi-hyun's suits. they make him look sleek and classy.
I'd like to lick-draw his wolf tattoo. Is that too much? 8)
I know! When did he get so hot? I'd seen him in 3 or 4 dramas before HC and not cared about him one way or another. And yet all it took was about 30 seconds of him as Baksa Adeul and I was practically drooling...
I totally loved every minute of Heartless/Cruel City. I could watch it over and over.
At first, I was bad mouthing Safari, but the 2nd tier drug family + Shi hyun were, in the end, the ones I rooted for big time (Jin Sook, Soo, Safari) ~
Hi OT :)! Eid Mubarak to those who celebrated.
Thanks for all the movie recommendations last week and I spent my week trying to get through the big list. I finally decided to try out Netflix for this sole purpose (tormenting takes too long and gooddrama is great but I have better luck with video quality on my laptop with netflix). Since last OT, I've watched (in order, if that matters):
My PS Partner - Really liked this one. I thought it was cute and fun.
Gangster High - I watched this one mostly because my Doctor's Son was in it. I liked it and I'm convinced that it could be a sorta prequel to Heartless City showcasing his teen years.
Sunny - Super awesome. Loved all the characters. I think he version on Netflix was the standard (?) version so if I can find the Directors Cut somewhere, I would be happy to rewatch it (especially after/in between all the thrillers on my list).
My Girlfriend is an Agent/ 7th Level Civil Servant - Overall I thought this was an OK watch. Kang Ji Hwan's character was a hoot but he was a horrible field agent and I wasn't convinced why anyone would let him outside. I wonder if the not-so-great subs had something to do with why I didn't enjoy as much as I thought I would. Can't compare it to the drama since I dropped it after a few episodes (I didn't have the time but it seems like that turned out to be great since people like to refer to it as the drama that didn't happen).
Castaway from the Moon - I really liked this take on the castaway concept. The romance developed naturally and realistically despite the setup.
Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance - My first thriller from the list and after watching a couple happy movies I thought I was prepared for a PCW film. The beginning was admittedly slow and at one point I wanted some killing already but after finishing, the choice (along with the lack of dialogue and music) was in tune with the rest of the movie and the social commentary PCW might have been pointing out. I'm hesitant to say I liked this over Oldboy and I think I need to rewatch Oldboy again to take a firm stance.
I started Sympathy for Lady Vengeance and it seems very different from the other two films in the trilogy. Im going to need a healthy dose of happy movies after this. I'm a Cyborg but That's OK, Mother, and How to Use Guys With Secret Tips are next on my list to watch before the weekend is over.
I think think Mother will provide you with a dose of happy. I hear that one's very dark.
How to Use a Guy with Secret Tips is supposed to be good fun though.
I like dark movies but they don't make me happy in the feel-good-at-least-there's-hope sense lol.
I forgot to add that if anyone is thinking about streaming Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, Lady Vengeance, and Mother, they 'expire' on Netflix soon-ish.
Mr. Vengeance 8/25
Lady Vengeance 8/25
Please do watch Memories of Murder. It's brilliant.
How to Use a Guy with Secret Tips... I don't know, thought it was pretty okay at first but then it got boring really quickly. If you like obnoxious celeb falls for everyday woman kinda plot, I suggest go for The Greatest Love. It's a series though.
See...I found the actor who falls for the girl in How to Use a Guy much more likeable than Dokko Jin. I never have really gotten the appeal of CSW though...and I LOVED pony-tail cop in I Miss You so I was looking forward to him in Tips.
Hmm, I thought the jokes got a lil recycled towards mid-point of the movie. Didn't complete it but I was 3/4 through it? Didn't like both lead characters esp. the female, but that really had nothing to do with the actors in the show, and lies squarely with the style of humor/scriptwriting.
Haha, CSW is omghotsauce but appeal is always subjective. Like how I don't get SJS's or LSG's appeal for example. (At least I get LJS's appeal even though I don't find him physically appealing.)
I second Celery recommendation for Memories of Murder its really brilliant, easily the best serial killer,police procedural i have seen.
One of the early 2000s Korean films that made me respect their cinema alot. 2003-2006 was really great with all those korean films by got acclaim around the world.
Add masquerade, my sassy girl and s diary perhaps to the list?
Masquerade is on the list :). The list is really long so I'm trying to set up sections to watch with a mix of genres so I don't go crazy lol. S Diary looks funny and I don't know why I have reservations about My Sassy Girl but I shall put both on the list :). Thanks!
My sassy girl is very funny if a bit gross in the ' there's something about mary' way but i really enjoyed it. Heartfelt too and amazing that its based on a true story.
I can't stand My Sassy Girl.
I think I'm the only one, everyone I know loooooves it. X_X
One day I'll review it, and it will be the only negative review on the web!
I don't care for My Sassy Girl either. You are not alone. Good luck on that review, I can't even get through half of it without wanting to gank that girl, so more power to you if you sat through the whole thing.
Oh, if I can't stand something, sometimes that gets me fired up precisely because I want to tear it apart so badly in a review afterwards.
My You're My Pet review was one of the quickest I ever wrote because of that.
My Pet-wow that was a sad effort, I was just cringing trying to watch it.
I didn't care much for Sassy Girl either.
I heeded some of the movie recommendations as well. My favorite so far is Castaway on the Moon. I give it 5 stars out of 5--an amazing take on the castaway theme, indeed.
I enjoyed Speedy Scandal and Fly, Daddy, Fly, and gave them 3 stars each.
3-Iron and Duelist are very thought-provoking films, they rate 4 stars each. 3-Iron is unique in its almost absence of dialogue and Jae Hee is an interesting (mysterious, even) character who does not speak at all. Duelist has superb cinematography and choreographed fights are daebak. However, there's very little narrative and the fighting scenes are prolonged, almost an overkill (pun intended).
I hope you are all doing well today.
- Dong Yi
- Empire of Gold - saw most of episodes 1 and 2 ..... starts of intense, for sure ..... would like to see the rest, but not sure if I'll be able to due to time conflict.
Take care everyone and have a great Friday!
Korfan! You are really taking your time with WAML! :). Hope you are at least enjoying it.
Hi! ..... Yes, WAML has taken a while because I watch the regular tv broadcast of the drama. Actually, all my drama-viewing is from regular tv, so I'm always on the 2-episodes-a-week schedule. But it works out for me, time-wise.
And yes, I've actually enjoyed WAML (along with the other ones I'm currently watching)! ...... Just 2 more episodes left to watch!
*SPOILER ALERT FOR WAML********************************************Waml drove me bonkers in bits but what i liked was how tae san was consciously determined to never be what he was before, ie a thug. The best moments were when he returned to sanity with regards to do-do :p
That do-do girl would drive anyone crazy, that's for sure! ...... And those pink shoes of hers too!
And since we're talking about going bonkers, you know what? Add Jae-hee to that list. I can no longer stand him! ...... Him, Do-do girl and the pink shoes!!
I like Tae-sang though. He's always welcome. *smile*
Hi Beanies and happy OT!
Back after wonderful, relaxing, sunny two weeks in Sweden. Absolute highlight was the visit of Astrid Lindgren’s birthplace. Love her and her books and was very touched to see the original Villa Villekulla and the Lemonade Tree. Reading matter of those weeks was Adam Johnson’s ‘ The Orphan Master’s Son’, which I highly recommend!
Marathoned the respective last four eps of Shark and CC after returning. I had some hope it wouldn’t be weird finales and was bitterly disappointed.
*SPOILERS* Shark gave us another dead Kim Nam Gil *yawn*, we all knew he was doomed anyway, and did this more than endlessly stupid Chingu fake-kills Chingu scenario, which is witnessed by Ahjussi who reacts panicked, but did know about it beforehand in the end. Huh? (Who’ll pay for the police units searching for a body that isn’t there?) Should it remind us of Bad Guy (dead KNG in the water?) to fool the viewers and later he is killed a second time, because…? Why exactly? He is evil - is he? IMHO he isn’t the acting cop killer, that one walks away free - and needs punishment? I hate how the drama writers want to wring every single possible emotion out of the audience just because they can, and forget they are telling a (hopefully) CONSISTENT story and are not torturing us in every possible way by using every scaring trope available. Ugh.
KNG, I love you from the bottom of my heart since I saw No Regret, but, please, choose a new project with some humor, love, passion (we know you can do it), great kissing and most of all survive a drama for once.
CC did pretty much the same. Baksa was killed two or three minutes before the end and we get Thighs for Brain and Owl as the important last message?! WUT?! Owl having one of the dreaded cheesy kid scenes. (Again, writer-nim wringing out every single trigger and emotion possible.) I actually cried watching it, but only because I was so angry. TfB was so clueless during the last eps, even more than before. And they joked about it, too. They talked about the cop running around knowing nothing. Oh writer-nim, I hope it’s voluntarily funny.
All the logic twists and mistakes in CC (everybody ! was undercover and, again, why exactly? Wasn’t Min basically hunting Min with the help of countless undercovers planted by Min?) made me stop caring in the end. Except Jin Sook. Her (and his) reaction to Baksa being a cop was priceless. But during Soo’s and Baksa’s last scenes all I was thinking was ‘When did the stylist change to the one of Boys over Flowers?’ Baksa suddenly had Lee Min Ho’s hair! All I could see were two ridiculous hair does and huge fake teeth. Not good.
CC had so much potential and failed to deliver after ep 15. Especially as they chose to give us a sort of open ending (which to me in this case is not the popular doubt theme of noir, but a lack of decisiveness). For me Baksa is dead. In contrast to the writer I am willing to make a decision and live with it. :P But Baksa Adeul will remain in my mind and heart as a stellar, probably career-defining performance and the best acting this year. So far. Lee Jun Ki just started. ;) Also I’ll remember CC as a truly unique show, for its intense atmosphere, the hottest kiss in Kdrama ever, brilliant Safari, wonderful Jin-sook and Cutie Hyun-soo as well as Mr. Slimey, son of Chairman Jo.
One afterthought to Shark. Never before did a drama soundtrack annoy me as much as in Shark. It was too loud and often enough it didn’t fit the atmosphere or desperately tried to create a certain intensity. Epic fail. */SPOILERS*
What else? I’m dying to check out The End of the World, but will have to wait till school starts again to have the peaceful time I need for this project. Got very high hopes for it.
Decided to marathon Empire of Gold once it’s finished. It is very good, but with weekly gaps it is so difficult to not forget small details in such a complicated story. Also I’ll wait for The Blade and Petal. It looks like something best watched in one go.
Still watching Scandal, which is surprisingly entertaining, and I hope and wish, Two Weeks will become my new crack, but I haven’t watched anything of it yet except the teaser.
LOL --> "(everybody ! was undercover and, again, why exactly? Wasn’t Min basically hunting Min with the help of countless undercovers planted by Min?)"
But it's true, isn't it?! :D
Which is basically why i stopped at epi 7. It was too ridiculous and i couldnt understand ( and i felt the writers didnt either!) what the real goal was in all these undercover operations. Plus it was just too dumb to think that completely fresh police officers are expected to enter into theses dangerous operations, where they would basically just compromise everyone and themselves!
[heartfelt nods] I'm pretty sure my attitude came out in the SqueeCaps regarding the police plot background. 8-)
“(everybody ! was undercover and, again, why exactly? Wasn’t Min basically hunting Min with the help of countless undercovers planted by Min?)”
Thank you for summing up in one sentence what made me lose interest in Heartless City about halfway thru.
Ok. I didn't know that "CC" was Heartless City and read ahead. Now I'm pissed.
Sorry! Cruel City was the first name I was introduced to and it stuck. The translation of Korean titles seems to be a general problem. Shark's other name is Don't Look Back: The Legend of Orpheus. Who would assume the same show under such different names?
It's ok. I know Cruel City=Heartless City. It was the acronym that did it to me. Half the time I don't know what people are talking about until I read a bit. As for CC/HC... my fears have been realized. :(
Guys... Shi Hyun did not die....
@Newbie: Reason why I dropped HC. I foresaw ep 4's big reveal as one that would be used over and over just because yunno, for twisty reasons.
It's a shame really, cos' I loved the whole dark underbelly of the city premise. Always have and always will gravitate towards similar material, lol.
Yeah, it was pretty much predictable right from the beginning. But I LOVED the atmosphere and Baksa and therefore stayed with it till the end.
Will it be worth my while to re-enter HC's verse in your opinion? I do have ep 5 to 10 sitting idly in my hdd, lol.
(I already know the ending so doubt it will be a factor that will sway me from watching it.)