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Heirs: Episode 6

High school, man. It’s a minefield no matter where you go, but when your social classes consist of rich, richer, and richest, everything from picking an extracurricular activity to where you sit during lunch turns into a feat of diplomacy and a reevaluation of your net worth. Eun-sang goes to her new school to find more familiar faces than she bargained for, and gets quite literally stuck between the devil who used to run hell and the devil who runs it now. Guess there’s no such thing as nice guys in hell OR high school.

 
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EPISODE 6 RECAP

Tan and Young-do start their school day with an alpha dog sniffing session (ew, not like that), tossing tense greetings back and forth, all the while sizing each other up for the war ahead.

Of course Eun-sang walks obliviously in between them, breaking the glaring contest and surprising both boys. Tan asks why she’s here without a uniform, while Young-do happily considers this a two-for-one deal. Before the tension swallows her up whole, Chan-young steps in to drag her away by the wrist. We’re gonna get an earful about that later from your girlfriend, aren’t we?

And then Rachel steps in to try and put a stop to things before they escalate, but Young-do just yanks her close and says they aren’t done yet—there wasn’t even a hug, or tears.

Tan yanks her back to his side by the wrist (UGH, seriously, are you two going to have your pissing contest by yanking girls around?) and tells Young-do he won’t be getting a hug, but he can comply by wringing tears if he likes.

Young-do feigns worry at all the tense mornings in store, so Tan tells him he’s free to transfer schools any time he wants. After all, Tan can’t go since his mother is the principal. Young-do: “Ah, so you’re differentiating between mother and mommy now? Oops, was that going too far for our first day?”

Young-do walks away and Rachel takes Tan aside, leaving Bo-na to explain to her friend that that was Satan—her first love. Ha.

Rachel complains about having to hear about Tan’s return through the rumor mill, but he doesn’t seem concerned about her feelings, not that he ever was. He answers honestly that Eun-sang’s transfer was a decision made by his parents, as is everything in his life, “just like my engagement.” Not that I feel sorry for her, but ouch.

Chan-young sighs that Eun-sang should’ve called him so they could walk into school together, while she wonders why he didn’t tell her that Tan was Jeguk’s second son. Chan-young thought it was the least of her problems given that she and her mom have nowhere else to go at the moment (and to be fair, it’s not like he imagined Tan would return).

He turns her focus toward surviving here at Jeguk High, and tells her that there’s a strict class system here. Of course there is. First class: heirs to business conglomerates. These are your chaebol sons and daughters—Young-do, Rachel, et al.

Second class: stockholder heirs. They won’t end up running entire companies, but come with lives fully loaded and pre-paved, like Bo-na for instance. Third class: reputation heirs. These are the children of congressmen, generals, and other powerful people, and include Hyo-shin and Myung-soo.

And then the fourth and final class is where Chan-young and Eun-sang belong: the charity class. She sees how she might fit there, since she is here by the benevolence of others, but is surprised to learn that as the son of a secretary, Chan-young is a nobody here too.

Eun-sang gapes, wondering where that leaves her. Chan-young tells her to perk up—she has at least one friend here, which is more than anyone else had when they started, including him.

Eun-sang gets called to the office to fill out general forms, and already she rubs up against having to list her mother’s occupation, and another student overhears the teacher pointing out that she’s a maid.

She goes to her first class, which she shares with both Tan and Young-do. She introduces herself, and another student asks how she got into this school, leading to a long awkward silence. Finally Tan breaks the moment by insisting he’s a transfer student too, and gets up to give his introduction, saving Eun-sang from having to answer the question. It doesn’t go unnoticed by Young-do.

At home, Madam Han finds Mom wearing a maid’s uniform and scrubbing the bathtub, like a scene straight out of The Housemaid. Hilariously, it turns out Mom is actually role-playing Jeon Do-yeon for funsies. Madam Han grumbles at her choice of movies. Ha.

Madam Han goes out to visit Madam Jung on purpose, like she’s just asking for trouble. These two only ever go in circles making threats and throwing fits, with no real progress.

Tan comes by the broadcast club to visit Hyo-shin, who greets him warmly (well, as warmly as anybody does in this icebox of a school). Bo-na walks in and despite Tan’s harmless and nice greeting, she runs off alarmed, convinced he’s looking for Chan-young to fight him because he’s still not over her. HAHAHA. I love her.

Myung-soo stops Eun-sang in the hallway to ask her what she is, explaining that when someone just shows up out of nowhere it means she’s either a charity case or nouveau riche. So which is she?

Eun-sang looks over at Bo-na, who doesn’t offer any help and tells her to answer it herself. She doesn’t, but it leaves everyone rather curious—who is she that on her first day she knows Tan, Young-do, Bo-na, Chan-young, and Rachel?

Tan walks up calling her “overnight riches,” which Myung-soo takes at face value. Tan wants to chat, but Eun-sang snubs him squarely and turns the other way.

She walks outside, where Young-do is lying in wait and sticks his foot out to trip her, just to save her with a hand-grab. Wow, is everything you do that double-sided? Oh wait, yes it is. He says he’s going to trip her often, and asks her again what her relationship to Tan is.

She points out that if he’s so interested in Tan he should go to the source, and Young-do wonders why she isn’t more afraid of him. Young-do: “Oh, I forgot to introduce you. You’re mine.”

He hardly means it in the romantic sense, though he totally enjoys letting her think that for a frightening two seconds, before explaining that the other kids call it a shuttle (as in, a lackey to go fetch things).

He continues with his characteristic faux-romance speak: “Now that you know my feelings, what is your relationship to Tan?” But Tan walks up to say he should ask him directly, and sighs at Eun-sang for running away when he wanted to talk.

He gives her an out which she gladly takes, and Young-do glowers at Tan for ruining his chance to make friends with the transfer student. Tan: “Having no friends suits you better. You’re going to throw them away in an instant, so why bother making any?” Buuurn.

Tan finally gets a chance to talk to Eun-sang, and promises he wasn’t trying to hide the truth from her. She points out that it doesn’t matter, because she feels exposed regardless. His response just kills me: “Did you… cry?”

She changes the subject and asks why he turned her into an overnight millionaire, worried that living a lie is just going to make things harder. He tells her that sticking by his side will quell any doubt on that matter, and tells her to stay close, and avoid Young-do.

But Eun-sang says she’s interested in having a regular school life, and she’s already figured out that the person she ought to avoid isn’t Young-do. So far all the unwanted attention she’s receiving is because of Tan, and she asks him to pretend they don’t know each other.

Tan calls Chan-young to meet, and warns him not to tell anyone about Eun-sang living at his house as the daughter of his family’s maid. Chan-young scoffs that he’s asking Eun-sang’s best friend to keep his mouth shut as if it even needs to be said, but Tan points out (perhaps from experience?) that often the oldest friends can end up bringing you down because they know too much.

The best part is that Bo-na arrives, sees the two boys talking, and immediately gets on her phone and whirls around like she didn’t just see them together. Tan says it seems like Bo-na’s still into him, and Chan-young wonders why anyone would have lingering feelings over a rundown car (literally “poop car”). Tan: “Poop car?” Their playful rivalry is cute.

Eun-sang comes home and asks Mom if they can’t find some way to leave this house—she’ll work extra jobs, and Mom can work elsewhere, right? But Mom has been fired from enough jobs for her disability to know that no job beats this one. Eun-sang cries that it’s unfair, but Mom points out that it’s unfair to her too, even as her heart breaks.

Eun-sang heads down to the wine cellar for some peace and quiet, and Tan hides out of view again. She looks up used Jeguk uniforms online but finds no hits, and sits back with some music, not realizing that Tan is sitting on the other side of the wall.

He asks her to meet, so she asks where he is, which is when he pops out in person and scares the daylights out of her. She wonders if he’s been here before, and he cops to it, guessing that her worry is to do with some secret wine cellar bad girl behavior.

He takes her hand and leans in like he’s going to kiss it… and then declares that it isn’t smoking. “Was it cursing my name?” He tells her to eat lunch with him tomorrow at school, and explains her that her options are basically to transfer back to her old school or play the nouveau riche girl who’s friends with him. Those options suck.

The next day Eun-sang sits down alone with her lunch, when Joon-young (the kid who was being harassed by Young-do when we first met him) tells her that this is his seat.

He tells her in a low voice that he overheard her mother’s occupation in the teacher’s office, and tells her not to think of outing herself. Oh, this conversation is not going where I thought it was going.

He warns her to keep her head down to survive, and nearly pushes her out of the way repeating that this is his seat. Moments later we see why, as Young-do and his gang arrive at the table to harass him. Aw, he just saved her, didn’t he?

She sees them terrorize the poor guy, and opens her mouth to confront Young-do. Eep. I totally want her to, but I also equally want her to hide. But Tan swoops in to remind her pointedly that they were supposed to eat lunch together and pulls her aside.

She realizes now that this is why Tan insisted on the lunch date, because he anticipated her hazing. She asks how he knew. Tan: “Because those are the rules I made.” So… the Satan thing wasn’t really an exaggeration then.

Young-do plops his plate down next to hers and joins them for lunch. He doesn’t let her leave, so she figures to hell with it and just eats anyway. I don’t know how she can even swallow her food with Young-do breathing down her neck and Tan playing goalie, but she does.

A little later, Young-do makes a big show of finding Tan and making everyone clear the room, and Tan asks if they’re supposed to throw punches or something. Young-do laughs that they’re not eight anymore, and says it boils down to this: they can’t possibly go to the same school. You always say that, but then it always ends with this.

Young-do tells him to transfer, “Before ‘son of a concubine’ comes out of my mouth.” Tan gets up at that, countering that at eighteen he’s still too young to fully grasp the losing-is-winning concept (yeah eighteen-year-olds don’t really say that, but okay).

Tan figures that playing nice is down the toilet, and Young-do adds that it’s too late for avoidance. They get closer… and closer… and then we cut. Huh? Well either they kiss or they stare and then walk away. Hey if you leave it to me, my brain’s gonna fill in the blanks however I please!

After school, Young-do is busy getting his bike tuned when Eun-sang runs in to make a chicken delivery to the shop. This time he recognizes her, and soon she’s back for a second delivery. The employees say it isn’t their order, so she calls the customer’s number.

Young-do picks up and shows up right behind her. He pays for his chicken, laughing at the hoops he’s jumping through to get her phone number (though it is funny that his way is faster and smarter than Tan’s, which on second thought is scary) and tells her to save his number.

She refuses, but he warns that if she doesn’t, he’ll start asking questions, like why an overnight millionaire’s daughter is making chicken deliveries. Stop smiling at her! It’s confusing.

Tan comes home and points out to Dad that one son’s return has led to the other son’s disappearance, and Dad tells him to keep tomorrow free so they can go visit hyung.

Won is still staying at the hotel, and the next morning Hyun-joo comes with porridge for him because he’s feeling sick. But one phone call from work sends him off with a curt non-explanation, and Hyun-joo leaves, clearly having experienced this kind of brush-off before.

Tan stops in his tracks when he realizes Dad’s idea of “go see hyung” is to go to the office, and judging by his reaction it’s basically like stepping foot inside the palace walls. Tan tries to get out of it, but Dad orders him inside, saying that this isn’t for either of the sons, but for Dad.

The chairman has no qualms about calling the emergency meeting on a Saturday, and the employees rush in. Won gets held up in traffic and comes in late, which is when Dad stops the meeting to introduce Tan as his second son to the company for the first time. If looks could kill, we’d have a Cain and Abel situation right there on the conference room floor.

Everyone else clears the room, and Tan tells hyung that he didn’t come here intentionally—Dad sprung it on him, and he wouldn’t have come if he had known they were coming here.

Won sneers that he never does anything on purpose, but he should know what happens as a direct result of his movements, whether intentional or not. Tan doesn’t disagree, but feels slighted anyway—what is he supposed to do when his very existence is the thorn in his brother’s side?

Madam Han is overjoyed at the news that Tan was taken to work, and her barrage of questions sends Tan fleeing. He finds Eun-sang hanging the sheets out to dry in the sun, and stays out of view as she sighs to herself that she’s a millionaire by day and a maid by night.

She falls asleep in her chair, and Tan sits watching her sleep for a little while, and fixes the band-aid on her hand. When she wakes up, she finds the dreamcatcher hanging above her.

Rachel’s mom and Chan-young’s dad have another run-in at the hotel, where she gets pissy about him not calling her. She manages to belittle his social standing while seeming desperate for his attention all at once, and I’m beginning to see why Rachel is the way she is.

Eun-sang is still walking around school without a uniform, and she asks her teacher if there’s a chance she can get a scholarship for her tuition. The teacher doesn’t think she has a chance in hell to compete with students who have been prepping for the ivy league their whole lives, and then adds more to her plate by reminding her that she has to pick a sport between tennis, golf, and horseback riding, the equipment for which she needs to pay for. Eesh.

But she passes by a sign in the hallway looking to fill a broadcast club PD position, the payment for which is a scholarship. Ding! She goes to see Hyo-shin right away and asks about the scholarship, admitting that she needs cash for a uniform. He wonders why if she’s rich, and she hurriedly says she blew her allowance on a new purse and doesn’t want to get in trouble.

He doesn’t seem to think that’s weird, though he’s not exactly quick to believe her pitch that she’s really hardworking. But she butters him up as best she can and asks to at least apply for the job.

She comes back out to find the rest of the students crowded around Young-do terrorizing Joon-young again, this time getting violent and even scarier, if that’s possible. Notably, Tan is standing right there just a few feet away, doing absolutely nothing.

Eun-sang makes her way to the front of the crowd, just itching to say something and put a stop to it. But just as she’s about to, this time Joon-young stands up for himself and fights back, flinging his backpack and scraping Young-do’s face, drawing blood. Oh noes.

Young-do flips him over onto the ground and steps on him for effect, all the while staring right at Eun-sang. He says full of portent: “I look forward to all the things that’ll happen to you,” and leaves her shaking.

She runs up to Joon-young to ask if he’s okay, and only then does Tan step in to drag her away with the warning not to get involved in stuff like this. He asks her if anyone else is helping that kid, and she looks around. He tells her to never take the weak person’s side at this school, because that’ll seal her fate as one of them.

Rachel fumes to see them together again, and takes out Eun-sang’s customs card to call her. She tells her to bring her nametag and makes a whole show of abiding by the school’s caste system, believing that Eun-sang is beneath her for being new money.

She warns her to stay away from Tan, and Eun-sang says it’s what she wants too, and returns the nametag. Rachel lies that she threw away the customs card and takes out cash to tip her, and Eun-sang fights back tears.

Young-do buys another ramyun at the convenience store in Tan’s (and Myung-soo’s) neighborhood, where he spots Eun-sang in the same exact place he noticed her the first time.

He smiles and parks it across from her and eats silently. He kicks at the table to try and wake her, which is when we see that this time, she isn’t actually sleeping, and hoping desperately to get out of this situation somehow.

Young-do: “Why are you always sleeping in places like this? It makes me want to protect you.”

He’s interrupted by a call from Tan, and they get their spikes up, all You know my number, and You knew mine first.

Tan asks how his ramyun tastes, and Young-do looks up to see Tan staring at him from across the street, looking back and forth between him and Eun-sang.

 
COMMENTS

I wish there was a little more to that last scene, because it ends like it’s some crazy charged moment, but it falls rather flat given the numerous other encounters they’ve had at school. Some context might’ve been nice, if jealousy or misunderstanding was the point. Though I suppose with a love triangle this antagonistic, just being seen together is supposed to be enough of a thing?

Anyway, I do like Young-do’s character (as a character, not so much as a human), because I can never tell what he means. Is he flirting or terrorizing? With the kid he bullies on a daily basis, the sweet talk masks the menacing meaning between the lines, but with Eun-sang it takes on an extra confusing layer because he’s overtly flirting while being scary. For now he’s clearly doing it to get a rise out of Tan, but he seems destined to go the way of Gu Jun-pyo—you know, that jerky ass-backwards thing of pulling on a girl’s pigtails like a child until you realize later that your interest in terrorizing her has turned into interest-interest.

And while I appreciate that in this drama the hero isn’t such a jerk, Tan clearly has a past as quite the epic hooligan, and it seems as though his current apathy is the only way he’s figured out how to be—if he turns everything off, he can ignore the problem instead of facing it. What a waste of a life to be so jaded at eighteen, though I suppose it leaves a lot of room for his growth.

I’m much more interested in Eun-sang if she’s the type of person to stand up for a bullied classmate, because for one, it gives her some other identity than just the poor girl, not to mention that it would make her pretty awesome as a person. So far she’s just teetering on the brink, so we’ll have to see how that develops, but if she’s the catalyst for getting Tan to start caring and standing up to Young-do, that’d be great too. He’s obviously not afraid to stand up for himself, but doing so for a classmate seems completely outside his concern. Young-do acting out and being a bully, I expected; Tan turning a blind eye and even stopping Eun-sang from being nice to the bullied kid was tragic. It makes him no better, especially when he has the power to do something about it.

I’ve been watching every episode with the feeling like I was waiting for the show to get going, but by now it seems that this is just the rhythm of this show. It’s always going to feel this way—a step or two behind anticipation, filled with so many lingering looks that I could swear half the episode was silent, and more weighted towards setup than payoff. I mean, I don’t know how long we’re going to have to watch the bulls circle each other with no showdown, and already I found myself wishing they’d just come to blows in this episode so they’d stop dancing and have a new dynamic to react to. While I find the tension between the boys interesting, I’m not impressed that their idea of asserting dominance is yanking girls around by the wrist. If Eun-sang’s position in this love triangle is going to be Bromance Bargaining Chip, well then BLERGH, I say. I’m putting faith in her no-nonsense demeanor that she won’t stand for that, but right now it feels like a shaky hope more than a grounded assumption.

That’s not to say that I don’t enjoy the show, because it’s certainly easy to watch. It just requires a shift in expectation, because there’s very little plot here, and much more focus on micro events and a general mood. The mood, I like—it’s simultaneously jaded and dreamy, which sounds weird but is effective. And the writer’s style fits rather perfectly with children acting like adults. Overall I’m much happier now that we’re in school and everyone’s got a complicated web of overlapping relationships, and we’ve got a reason to watch all the different pairings interact. I think the characterizations are complex enough to keep me interested, though if we got a little plot up in here, I sure wouldn’t complain. Or yunno, some kisses.

 
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Loved this ep!!! And woo ratings are going up too

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oh kim wo bin!!

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that part where Youngdo and Tan was facing each other in the room, I was like, KISS KISS KISS KISS!

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LOL.
Woobies role is such a repeat of School.

I wish I could say I do not know how everything will turn out.

the high school rivalry really doesnt interest me. but I guess these people dont have to study so they have time...

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I disagree. Yes both Heung-soo and Cho-Do are bullies (hell HS wasn't really a bad boy he was closer to Tan's character) HS was not a psychotic bulling asshole like Young-do is (sexy, scary, and fascinating). The only time we ever saw Heung-so get intimidating was when he was standing up to the class bully, the gangster, and the one time he punched Heung-soo.

Like I've said before, they are similar on paper; so very different in performance and execution.

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I dont even recall who you are talking about, did you mean to answer someone elses post?

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Selina is comparing Kim Woo Bin's character in High School 2013 to his character in Heirs. She's right, they are both bad boys, but at different points in their evolution. In 2013, he was sick of the bully life and annoyed at being shoved back into that role because of his rep. In Heirs he seems to be full throttle into it and enjoying the heck out of it. I almost thought he might tone it down once he saw Eun-Sang watching him bully someone... but, apparently, he liked showing her why she should be afraid of him. I can't wait to see where that goes. I'm loving Kim Woo Bin more in every show he's in. I really want to see him as a lead in a drama next.

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ah ok i had forgotten that characters name.
I dont quite mean the bullying. that doesnt bother me. but his mannerisms, more like it. the execution of the role is a repeat.

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well, not not reapeat but ah...how do I say.... ah forget it

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Yes, his role is a repeat of School 2013. It is not challenging for the actor at all. Then add Friends 2 to the list, and basically you get the same thing again and again and again. Yawn

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I don't understand why people keep saying that this is the same role (of Woo Bin) as of School 2013. It's not. The only similarity is that he is playing a high school kid. I'm guessing people that are comparing Young-Do to Heung-Soo did not watch School 2013. HS as a character was way more similar to Kim Tan than Young Do. He was supposed to have been a bully but we barely get to see that, and the few times we do it's mostly on flashbacks that last seconds at the most. Heung-Soo is a quiet and reserved boy that tries to keep to himself and go unnoticed. He is hurting because of his past but he does not lash out at people for fun, nor does he seek to make other's lives miserable just because he can. When he gets angry and lashes out it is at his old friend, not once do I recall him being a bully to a random kid. Completely different characters!

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i agree with selina and shinha...this is not a repeat performance at all...totally different character - did you watch every episode of School 2013?

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Yes, it's like saying that Kim Tan and Jun Pyo are the same character because both are chaebol and in high school. I agree that Heung Soo is much more like Kim Tan than Young Do and I'd add that whenever there was bullying going on in the classroom he just sat there and did nothing, just like Kim Tan is doing. He told the teacher that he came to graduate and did not want any provocation, the same thing Kim Tan said in front of the classroom (ES said it first).

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Love Kim Woo Bin! Even though he is a jerk and won't get the girl (which I hate; when is he going to get the girl?) And was that the girl who played Gae Na Ri from School 2013 talking to Bo-na next to the lockers?

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Yes, this is exactly what I was saying when I watched the ep last night. Woo Bin needs to finally get a lead role and get the darn girl! As much as I love LMH and am enjoying the character of Tan, KWB is just so electric on screen. Sigh...

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Yes, Jeon Soo Jin. She is one of the supporting characters and is on the Heirs poster.

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Absolutely, he is a great actor and people tend to confuse all this bullying his character's doing, with being a psychopath. I would really recommend them to look into the symptoms of that particular illness.

He is violent because violence engenders violence. So basically Young Do needs a hug (especially after his father beats him up in karate or whatever), and he needs the girl to help him become a better man, as he's surrounded by minions who mirror his actions.

I would love to see him 'get the girl', but it ain't gonna happen. The flat, expressionless Kim Tan is. The only reason I keep watching is Woo Bin's acting. He's playing Young Do with incredible zest, and his comedic timing is excellent.

In a way, everything that's wrong with the world today is captured in these chaebol-centred dramas. But that's a different digression :)

Cheers,
Postcronicita

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About Young Do needing a hug/love to become a better person, I actually think that's going to happen. Eun Sang is going to care about him and make him a better person through friendship.
This is the first time I've seen every single type of secondary character portrayed in different people. For example, Young Do and Chan Young. Chang Young is the kind one, the reliable one, yet he isn't interested in Eun Sang romantically speaking.
Young Do does have an interest (I think so, considering I've been getting vibes since the first time he saw Eun Sang in the bike shop... ) but Young Do's obviously going to try to break up the OTP. Wait does that make him the third second bitchy female lead? ( that sentence makes sense, I promise, kinda)
Anyway, my point is that you don't need to get the girl to be cared for and thus become a better person, plus I think Rachel or Rah Yael or whatever is going to help on that aspect. I don't think Young Do's completely hopeless at all, as he's already showing signs of being a big, soft, cuddly, stuffed animal on the inside anyway.
To me, his flirty is supposed to be sarcastic but it ends up ridiculously awkward and really cute. Sure the menacing undertones are there, but they almost seem like that they are an excuse or even an afterthought to get closer to her.
Question, what's Hyo Shin characterwise. He seems nice enough, but thought dialogue during the showdown at the end of last episode seemed to be with malicious intent. I got the feeling he's playing God and (or at least trying) to pull the strings.
Finally, I know Eun Sang is a typical drama girl, but after watching YTBLSS she seems especially strong-minded and not a battered worn out doormat. It's a breath of fresh air (I watched MS but that's on a different level entirely so...)
Just my two cents.

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I like when Kim Woo Bin is on. He is scary, but in a funny and not so funny ways. I think he is going to change. What is the purpose of watching a character that starts out in episode 1 and end with episode 20 not changing? Only bad writers would do that.

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Young Do, is violent because he chooses to be violent. All these are excuses. Many children grow up in environments like his is portrayed, and grow up to be nice human beings. They grow up to be nice human beings, because their circumstances show them what they don't want to be.

Young Do is an azzhat, because at this point in his life that what he wants to be, not because of his dad.

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I love Lee Min Ho, but in this drama, for some reason I'm captivated by the cruel but charistmatic Yong Do. Why?!!

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I just wonder whether Korean slang 'new money' is 조복??? Maybe I hear it not very clearly :(

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Awesomeeee.

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this episode was where i was shouting a bit. I really want to love young do. he's a tortured ass but still nice. Outf school he's so different. "make me want to protect you" it sounds sweet but also scary at the same time. His protection is one that will leave u feeling battered if not physically, emotionally.
Kim tan... i was disappointed at his indifference but i also understand why, he said it. he just wants a quiet finish to high school.
Eun sang i want to cuff some good sense into at times but i also like her character at other times. it's a tug-o-war. Her friend is notably absent which i find a little odd. if he's ur best friend why won't he even offer to sit and eat lunch with you? i found that confusing.
Bo na is just a funny girl.
RACHELLLL i really want to just beat that girl. Talking about dad's dad's dad. Where is dad then? Like if the money is hers? Witch don't get me started. jump off ur high horse and relax. How pathetic are you going after a man that clearly shows u how little he values ur presence in his life?

Overall this show reminds me of so many other teen shows centred around high school hierarchy. It's not bad at all but and i will finish it but its not gonna make my favourite list i think... we'll see

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Omg yes. I totally agree with this show being similar to some teen shows of the past. I'm waiting for it to surprise me. But whatever said n done everyones too excited to notice any possible cliches/deja-vu'ish' events /any similarities. Cuz of the star cast and the media hype . I mean , i almost see another BOF in making. Then again I'm one of the excited lot. Gawd!! I'm in love with multiple characters..:) but I'm still a little apprehensive too. Hmm
We'll see rt? :)

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About their English:
Lots of ppl around the world speak English. Most r not native speakers. Most speak w an accent. Fact is, if you learn a language after the age of 6, u pretty much r going to speak w an accent peculiar to your mother tongue. No reason to laugh at ppl for that.

Actually, if u reflect upon it, there r diff accents in American English too, fr N to S, fr coast to coast. And to sb in the U.K., speaking American can be funny too. The only English w no accent is "Queen's English", and how many of us don't find that funny?

Anyways, the pt of International schools is to train ppl to be able to communicate in different languages, esp. English, not to train them to speak w no accent.

Anyone who has taken a course fr a Korean prof knows that he is usually hard to understand, and that's sb who has received a Ph.D. in an American univ! I find LMH's spoken English no better or worse than other Korean stars who make an effort at it, starting in their 20s.

School Philosophy:
Every school has one. Instead of their English, I take issue w the lack of decency and kindness among ppl so young and so privileged.

What kind of a school allows that extent of open bullying? It is teaching that money is might, and might is right. It is a sad school that doesn't teach young adults who will become Inheritors, future leaders of society, the philosophy that Right is Might.

About CES:
We fear for the poor girl the whole ep thru. So it is full of angst. Anyone who hopes that KT's father transfers CES to Jeguk High is still naive. If we've learnt anything fr KDs, it's that chaebols don't do things out of the kindness of their hearts.

Young Do is getting downright abusive and scary. I hope sb kicks some sense into him. Will that person be CES? Will she be able to stand tall and show them the error of their ways? That's too much to hope for, isn't it?

We've 14 more eps. Will we see KT grow up during that time? Grow out of his passivity, take a stand, for anything? For his love for CES?

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On the whole, I'm more disappointed after this episode than after any previous one, for this reason: both protagonists suddenly showed their true natures.

So Kim Tan has decided to leave his bullying ways--and just sit and watch while YD, etc, perpetuate the system he set in place? While they destroy people? What is his idea of good, then?

And as for Eun Sang...that is the most depressing of all. She is so bold and no-nonsense with bullies on the job and on the street--but in the school she turns into a pudding. What was with her not wanting to talk about her origins? her mother? her social standing? It's not like she's going to have friends if she doesn't. And standing there while someone who was kind to her is bullied psychologically and then physically? So is she only brave to defend herself, not others? JanDi, come back!

Suddenly it hits me that ALL this girl cares about--(and I'm sorry, folks, hate on me if you will, or, better yet, prove me wrong) is improving her situation, "getting a future." That's why she abandoned her mom (whom she treats none too affectionately) and followed her sister to California. That's why she suddenly changed her mind about the transfer, and now is guarding her hopes of graduating as a "somebody" so well, that she denies her identity and doesn't want to risk standing up in front of brutal injustice. "What kind of future do I have?" "I can't wash dishes the rest of my life" "It's not MY fault, Oma"

Doesn't she realise how enviable her position is compared to Tan's--or most of the others in that school? A mother who loves her, an honest living, living with her family, free to love whom she pleases....
Eun Sang, what is there left in you that's GOOD? Is that your highest ambition, to make more bucks? You'll let friends get beat up for that? Prove me wrong, please...

Otherwise there are just no principled people left in this drama....

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I agree about Eun Sang just wanting to secure her future. Her defense mechanism for handling hardship seems to be to go into self-preservasion mode. Her character was so jaded the first couple of episodes that I expected them to have a big back-story of how she got that way. I half thought she was going to be from a formerly well-to-do family that went bankrupt and that's why she's so bitter. But then they softened her up a bit and haven't really touched on her past (why is that, by the way, we know something about pretty much everyone's history but hers? Lazy writing or do you guys think they are saving that for later?)

Somewhere in her 18 years of life she made the decision that her life is never going to get any better (she's said that several times) so she might as well get what she can while she can.

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I can see your point of view, but I think Eun Sang trying to get a future for herself is so she can help her mom. Going to America was her chance at becoming someone, once again, to help her mom.
I think she's bitter because even though her mom obviously doesn't have that bad of a job salary wise, it's her mental status. Her mom has a disability, her dad died, and you can see how cruel people can be to her mom. All her life, even without her mom being a housemaid, all she's ever done and learned what she has to do is serve the rich and accept that it's never going to be better. I mean, that's a huge blow to anyone's self esteem.
With her become spineless during school, it's because the bullies can hurt her. There's an easy solution for on the street, but in school, she knows people and those people can hurt her. I also think that if she gives up Jeguk, then she really doesn't have a chance,
But honestly, I think on a subconscious level, Eun Sang actually doesn't deem herself unworthy. Even after enduring so many hardships, se still keeps on going.
NathanJ and Z, I totally see what you mean and the evidence for your point of view, but I like to believe the best on people, even if that's foolish.

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*she thinks she really doesn't have a chance to break out of the castes.

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You are making some good points NathanJ. Good food for thought. At the moment though, I can't prove you wrong.

I also agree with Z that I would have liked to find out more about ES's background. Why is she the way she is? What happened to her dad? Was he ever in the picture?

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she is not free to love anyone, not living with a family but just mom, and among strangers, no home of your own, and do you think low-position jobs are paid honestly?
No I dont think she has it better.

as to her ambition, hey, wake up. if you dont use the chances life gives you, you´re :::: if she did not have that ambition she´d be an evolutional failure.
a better future is what all parents want for the children anyway. well, except maybe chaebols. Eun Sangs mother forgave her for going to America and I bet she even cursed bad luck that Eun Sang did not manage to find a job and stay. She GRABBED the offer for the elite school, cause she is the mother. she has to fight nails and claws so Eun Sang WOULD live better than her. thats all mothers want.
so I think you are wrong, Eun Sang is not selfish and ungrateful. after all she works multiple jobs to help her mot

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*her in her housework and make her load easier. she even does the degrading jobs for her mother.

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I think you are both correct. Remember teenage angst?

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I know what you mean... that the hope is for Eun Sang to kick some ass. But I'm really enjoying Eun Sang as a character.

From the beginning, her character is just as you said, she ditched her mom to look for a better life. She ultimately decided to go to Jeguk School after listening to the Chairman hoping that she'll be able to end up with a great diploma that would get her a nice job.

She's 18 - It is believable that she doesn't have those strong principles. (I mean.. obviously.. she ditched her mom!) She's just trying to survive, make ends meet. I'd like to watch her struggle with figuring out what's the right and wrong thing to do, and how to survive in this caste system. And potentially fight a Chairman who is omnipresent. A much more complex character than a straight up "I am here to protect the weak!" Jandi.

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She left her mom in hope of bettering her life SO THAT she could come back and make life better for her mother. And I believe her. Let's not forget that motivation.

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I've met and admired a woman like that. She left her loved ones behind including the good-for-nothing husband. Her hope is to improve their oh-so-crappy life. I would have cried buckets of tears in misery if I had to work for her super wealthy boss-wife who threatens her with deportation!

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Yes , the drama is very slow. It seems to me that this episode was again just to show the setttings of the school"s( and the society's) division for parties: rich and poor. The poor by now are divided: CY keeping his neutrality, the bulied guy just bearing through it all alone, KT disguising himself as the rich , and now ES trying to maneuver through the battleflield. If they just unite, it will be a strong oppsition wing, which is perfectly able to overthrow the rules of this school.
BY now, all these participants ( and especially KT) dissapoint. They don't take the challenge. They just hide and evade and run away. i hope they will face the problem in the next episodes. They need to, otherwise the love story can't evolve neither.

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I hope so too. Good point in your last sentence. I think you're right.

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You got it right. I got the feeling they want to showcase "the coolness" of the rich, like what we see in all movies n dramas. The rich is taking control, but speak soooo little ( to add the cold, selective vibe...,I'm the boss so if u dont understand my word u r doomed)

For movie, and little scene, it might works, but now we are ep4, and they keep doing this to the rich group, no explanation, just staring, little convo, argh, I FEEL WATCHING BLACK & WHITE MOVIE, or else, MISTER BEAN.

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Hello.

I agree the drama is way too slow. Too slow for me. I am about to lose interest. I hope the drama be more into action. i think the roles has all been properly layed down. I want more talking. u

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I don't think Eun Sang's being a bad person or selfish for feeling that way. When you grow up with hardship, it's difficult to see the good in your life when you're always bombarded by the bad. Her mom couldn't afford to pay for their apartment so they're living in someone else's house, which is uncomfortable. She's just trying to get by, and I can understand why she is the way she is. That being said, she is only 17 years old, so she's too young to be so jaded. I hope throughout the series she'll be able to see that life is more than just surviving day to day, and that she'll be able to have hopes and dreams for herself beyond menial labor. If she can grow alongside Tan, that'd be even better hehe.

On another note, I agree that the pacing is wonky and it is throwing me off. I feel like I'm always anticipating something to happen, and then it kind of flatlines. I guess I'll just have to accept it as is, but I do hope something more happens a few more episodes down the line, because today's episode, while enjoyable, did not reel me in whatsoever. Thank goodness Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye and Kim Woobin are so nice to look at ...

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I guess at 18 years of age CES wouldnt have such courage to stand up for the weak even though she wants to. And its realistic to a certain level that if someone if being bullied the best thing is to stay away to avoid being bullied. So i can see that she plays a realistic 18 year old who is sometimes selfish (when she abandons her mother) and yet mature for the rest her age (she works part time jobs to meet ends meet, and help her mother too ) and all while at the same time she wants to break away from her poverty like anyone would.

Anyways i hope to see more development in her character as well as YD and KT especially the boys' friendship before. I also hope that there wil be much more development in each individual character like rachel and chan young. Or even Won's relationship with that girl.

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Just becos she "doesn't take the challenge" on the first and 2nd day of school, when she doesn't even know where the School Office is, when finding money for a school uniform is a pressing concern, doesn't mean she won't take the challenge a few days later, when she has her uniform, when she is less in shock. That's a possibility, right?

Why is everyone in such a rush? If everything is resolved by ep 6, what do you expect to happen in the next 14 eps?

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@kDaddict, exactly. I find it weird that people including girlfriday, expected that both ES and KT were supposed to go changing all the rules on the first day of school.

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I think this was the most disappointing episode yet, for several reasons. I found it more depressing than anything else. Not sure how much longer I will be able to keep watching this.

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I agree that Eun Sang does come across as being, to an extent, selfish and very focused on her situation -perhaps to the exclusion of her mother's and the bullied kids' well being. To me, though, that is very realistic. And I rather like that she is being a real teen, warts and all, and not some whitewashed Candy heroine. Everybody has a journey they need to make here, and she's no exception. Hopefully we will be able to see her grow as a person, too, not just as a love interest.

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I don't mind seeing a "real teen," too...as long as the story is about a little more than just romance. I can't enjoy a romance if there's not a seed of goodness growing in one or both characters throughout...and that's all I ask for...just a seed of goodness, with a promise of growing. Right now...it seems there's no one in the whole drama with a common notion of right and wrong...they're all bowing to some form of expediency, the closest to an exception being Oma.

I hope that changes, though.

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They've been back to school for exactly ONE day!

On this day, we see that KT has left behind his bullying ways. Ppl don't change overnight. Most change incrementally. Give him a few more days, perhaps something else will happen.

CES is in new surroundings. On this days, she learns for the 1st time the caste system at Jeguk High. She doesn't even know where the school office is. With 2 alpha males fighting for her attn, and the threat of exposure over her head, she has a very full plate. I'd find it unbelievable if she has the mental, physical and emotional energy to fight off the bullies in front of the whole student body, like Superwoman, that is after she has helped her mom do her housework, and gone to her various part-time jobs.

It isn't even impatience to expect CES to do sth about the bullies on the 1st or 2nd day of school; it is downright super unrealistic.

I don't feel that all she cares about is getting a future. I feel that what she is doing is to try to keep her nose above water.

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They transfer her to the school but don't give her the uniform? and know it cost money. According to the previews dad did this transferto show her the position she is in the caste compared to his son but has he not seen any Korean dramas it is basic plot: poor girl rich boy.

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It highlights how little a person with more really understands about the difficulties of a person with less. He simply didn't consider what else would be involved. or else he did, and is using that to support his point that she comes from a different world and shouldn't be standing next to his son.

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About KT's father: It's the latter: "He's using it to support his point that she comes from a different world and shouldn't be standing next to his son.

As sb who runs a big conglomerate, he's got to be more capable than giving a penniless girl a scholarship that only forgives the school fees.

About all the comments that say CES has lost her spunk, when she doesn't step up to defend 4 Eyes:
It highlights how little a person with more really doesn't understand the difficulties of a person with less.

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You're probably right. But she can be so emphatic and no-nonsense when she wants to be! I'm not understanding the pattern--when does she lose her spunk?

Also, I wasn't really expecting her to be Superwoman and save every bullied kid, but really...to the first stranger in this school to show her any kind of sympathy...when she'd already gone up against YD for her own sake...I thought she'd do something for Glasses' sake. Her failure to do anything but stare really irked me. And she didn't even remonstrate with KT very much for standing there like coward.

But as long as this is for realism's and development's sake, and not because our Jakganim thinks self-preservation and better-life are worth more than friendship and honesty...

Maybe I'm too fresh from Queen's Classroom...Shim Ha Na is the Superwoman (10 year old) that EunSang (as yet) is not.

But I'll adopt y'alls optimism and hope--and believe-- the next episode has more interest than pretty faces and gentle words that cost nothing.

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Eun-sang is completely out of her element (as Daddy Kim hoped she'd be) and in a terrifyingly dangerous environment that she's only just beginning to grasp the rules of. So her spunk's been muted for the moment.

It's still there, though. That she pushed to the front of the crowd, that she made a couple of aborted steps forward, that she finally did approach to offer water and such when it was all over. Those were all things no one else was doing.

I won't argue that her wanting to take action is equal to taking action.. but for me it showed that there's something there that'll get built on. (At least I hope so!)

It's completely different from Ha-na, though. Ha-na was dealing with kids she knew and with whom she had equal social standing (Teacher Ma's manipulations aside). And even at her lowest she had at least one solid friend backing her up. Not that she wasn't awesome! She definitely, definitely was. But I don't think it's a fair comparison.

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I guess what've enviable is also in the eye of the beholder.

But let's refresh what the drama actually tells us abt her situation:
She lives in a maid's room w her mother becos they don't even have the required deposit to rent a place, however small, however shabby;
From it she has to travel 2 hours EACH way to go to her own school--that's how far their own neighborhood is from this current one;
They don't have 1 Mill won (<USD1000) to their names, which means no buffer of any kind-- if mom gets sick n can't work, they'd be out on the streets.
I think those are pretty desperate straits.
If she can at least graduate from a high school that opens doors, she has hopes of not having to wash dishes and deliver chicken the rest of her life.
What kind of a human being would let go of that chance in her situation?
I know (of) sb like that. He is on drugs.

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I get you. But...at what cost? Would she really, really, choose Open Doors over humanity? I'm going to take the line suggested, that it's so overwhelming to her that she hasn't made that decision yet--she's acting out of instinct more than reflection, and her reflection may yet come. It looks to me, just from the little we've seen, that Won's girl -did- do the trade--humanity and principles for a chance at success. Not that she is an evil snob, just that she's terribly pragmatic and materialistic, so far--apparently she's accepted being Won's kept woman, and she said herself that money is always right. That's what I dread from ES.

But Jakkanim wouldn't be that dull, would she now? I guess not....

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…hang on… When did we learn that Hyun-joo is a kept woman? She's working for herself, has managed to get an apartment for herself and that's what we know. Won wants to date her and she seems to care about him, but thus far she seems to have been more pushing him away than being his "ready when you need me" girlfriend.

(Plus -- I thought she was more saying "the customer is always right" which is a completely different thing.)

What she does show is that it's hard to earn a living and you have to put up with all kinds of little humiliations to do it (something the already working Eun-sang knows very well). And she's someone with a college education.

Eun-sang, as of this moment, sees college as something she can't have. For her to go towards an open door is a huge step. (I think it'll be reaching for a dream that'll unleash her humanity rather than the reverse.)

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I think calling that tutor girl materialistic is off base. Did you not notice that the character looked like she was going to cry from misery when he strapped that necklace to her neck. It seems obvious to me that she will not commit to the brother because she wants to be on more even ground. Instead of being conscious of her feelings he keeps adding to her debt.

I really feel like the whole purpose of that relationship is to serve as a foil for KT and CES. If KT doesn't watch out that maybe him a few years from now...

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I don't know that we are watching the same drama. I do know that we watch drama in very different ways.

It's perfectly alright that you don't like the show.

But for 1 thing, you narrow in on some points, and ignore many others, which make your conclusions faulty, e.g.
these two girls have consistently shown that they wish to keep their distance from the 2 guys; they work hard to pay their own way; they have more backbone and self-respect, and are less materialistic than most heroines I've seen in KDs.

For another thing, you lash out at CES and the show for not doing things on her 1st and 2nd day of school, when it is a completely alien and threatening environment to her. We're just seeing her being introduced to that milieu. Those are things that she will come to do in the show. But give it time. Even an egg takes time to cook. A story takes time to unfold!!!

The following paragraph is a general statement not directed at anyone in particular:
Perhaps those who are young and accustomed to computer games are more likely to be impatient with story-telling; Those of us who are older and are used to reading novels have a different sense of narrative PACE;
and they might also have difficulty in being empathetic of chars in dire circumstances.

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where on earth did you get the interpretation that Won's not-quite girlfriend is materialistic? By all accounts she earns her own money and doesn't accept any material help from Won or Jeguk since she sees her scholarships as having taken enough from them already - we've seen that she'd rather put up with petty humiliations from the mother of the kid she tutors than take anything from Won.

And when Won pulled out his 'presents', the only one she looked ok with accepting was the actual wishbone -i.e. an actual bone. The far more expensive wishbone necklace, he practically had to order her to accept it - and I think it's quite clearly shown that she wasn't happy about it.

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Pogo--right, because she really loves Won. You can tell that much in the first scene with them together--but you can also tell there is something terribly, frustratingly sad to her about Won's gesture...as if she had looked forward to a serious relationship with a commitment--probably marriage--which Won hasn't got the guts to bring about. I'm guessing at a lot of these things, and I may be very wrong. But she definitely seems sad, and Won seems to be a part of that sadness.

I don't think she oozes materialism; but it does seem she's bowed to it to a certain degree--her statement about money always being right, for one; and in a different way, her willingness to come to Won when he is "sick" but quietly disappear rather than be an embarrassment to him, which makes it seem to me that she's settled for less than her hopes with Won--settled for being Won's companion when he needs it, while Won's ambition remains the greatest thing in his life.

I could be getting details, or even major points, wrong, but that is what it seems like to me so far.

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The choice between Open Doors over humanity is nonexistent.

Food scraps and a small room? There is no humanity in Mom and ES living conditions currently. Mom cannot work anywhere else because of her disability. ES has to work to supplement her Mom's meager income as housemaid.

The scholarship may be a knife blade that ES will painfully hang onto so that she and her Mom can come out of the pit of poverty.

"Beggars cannot be choosers."

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Noooo, Jan-di can please stay away - I prefer Eun-sang, who's jaded, bitter and grasping at any straw possible as she is, just to have a better life. I don't mind my drama protagonists being imperfect (Eun-sang) or even downright awful (Young-do) but I do want them to be interesting. And Eun-sang's self-preservation instincts are the only thing that separate her from being a total Mary Sue.

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Ok, she needn't be a trope...but for ME to find her interesting, I have to know that she's got moral stuff inside. Otherwise...blah...fish in the stream...they're a dime a dozen.

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@NathanJ - you might want to keep in mind that the protagonists/main characters of some of the greatest creative works of all time are people we would absolutely detest in real life (see: Crime and Punishment, The Picture of Dorian Gray, Lolita). It's possible to find someone interesting even if you dislike them.

Also in my opinion, 'moral stuff' alone does not make a person interesting, knowledge of their motivations and character development does. But if the only kind of protagonist you find interesting is the kind who'd do things you agree with in real life and act according to your motivations and not her own, that's your call.

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@Pogo--Of those 3 I've only read Crime and Punishment. I -think- I'm actually not that far off from your opinion. But see, I just want there to be a light somewhere. No one needs to be following it, necessarily. Just let it be there. Crime and Punishment was one long, horrible nightmare--but the end made it all worthwhile (although I still say those Russians are crazy--THOSE Russians, that is). But the lights were there, throughout...there were terrible actions, but conscience was there all along. The book was worth it--to me--because of the power of the influence of the precious women in Rasolnikov's life. If that had been gone--if it were just a thriller about the horrors of a murderer's conscience and his slow descent, through conviction by the law or just breakdown--I couldn't have read it through.

In other words...I'm just hoping aloud here that our Jakkanim has -some- plan to redeem the insipidity that overcame me in this episode. KDaddict suggested that I was of the videogame generation, and couldn't wait for the development. I laughed because that could hardly be further from the truth...I HATE videogames, and love Korean dramas -precisely- because of the lengthy, delicious character developments. I HATE action devices thrown in just for effect (BOF was full of that). But I just want the assurance that our writer values character over plot twists, goodness over fanservice, truth over steam. I can't say I'll drop it if she doesn't...sigh...I'm too much of a story addict, at that.

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@Pogo--Faith and School 2013 were my very favourite dramas, for that very quality in the writing. Such dynamic character development....and the results are just precious. Everyone is real, everyone is 3-dimensional, everyone struggles and either grows from the struggle or dies from it. Not to say there were no effects for effect's sake...but that wasn't what the story was about.

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@NathanJ - It's funny you cite School 2013, because that is another of my favourite dramas in terms of character development as shown on teenagers. Someone in a previous recap thread once said they were interested in what Lee Jong-seok might have done with a role like that of Kim Tan, and it's an apt comparison because Tan could easily be the richer, slightly watered-down version of Go Nam-soon.

Anyway, back to Eun-sang, we're barely at the beginning of her time in this school, and at the current point in the story, her holding herself back from sticking her neck out is only situationally appropriate. And she is the one to go check on the boy after the beating, which is more than anyone else bothered to do.

Either way, I can't help feeling like there's a subtle double standard involved in wanting the poor girl with everything to lose to draw the bullies' ire in a new school where she's completely out of her element, while the rich boy who established the bullying hierarchy is in no way similarly castigated by javabeans/us for his passivity (and come to think of it, why isn't he? He's got enough power there to be having face-offs with the lead bully and has the Samaritan instinct based on his first meeting with Eun-sang, but we expect Eun-sang to be the one to do the standing up? why?)

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and while I fully agree with your point re: character development, I anticipate Eun-sang gaining some courage in the future. That she doesn't have it yet, is not a storytelling failure or a character failure (potential to grow, after all).

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I wish there was an "Agree" button that I could sit down and bounce up and down on!

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I don't know how it happened that my "agree" comment seems to second what Nathan said, but actually, the person with whom I agree wholeheartedly is Pogo. I find Eun Sang a very sympathetic character. She's got layers, and she is obviously thinking all the time. She lives life in survival mode virtually every minute, and is painfully aware of the fact that there's not single moment during which she can kick it into cruise control.

Only recently, was she reminded just how precarious life is for herself and her mother. Living in the house of her mother's employers, and witnessing the daily humiliations she has to put up with just to keep them dry and out of the elements, the stark contrast of their little hovel of an attic space, and how breathtakingly stark it stands against the excessive luxury that exists just steps away (but that might as well be on the moon as far as any hope they have of accessing it), hits her like a 2x4 between the eyes every day. The caprice of the mistress of the house (quite literal, that!) could land them roaming the streets at the drop of a hat, and all Eun Sang's part time jobs do nothing to change the cruel truth of that. I think it's obvious that Eun Sang's first impulse was to rush to the bullied kid's defense, but instinct (that which has helped mother and daughter to keep their head above water so far) told her that this kid was still in the position to survive better than herself. He would soon be transferring schools, and would be thereby free of his tormentors. He was probably of one of the classes above "charity case" (heck, he at least was wearing the uniform she has yet to be able to afford), and therefore was most probably more econically secure than her. He knew the lay of the land, who his enemies were, and who not, while she was still having a hard time finding the school office, and was just beginning to understand her place within this new (and obviously menacing) social dynamic. A sense of self preservation is NOT a moral failing if it stands between living another day and being a lion snack.

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Wow, your points on Eun Sang are very depressing characterization but when looked at the whole seem accurate. I do hope she will grow out of it, and realize that what makes her special is the warmth she has and has received from her mom. Teenagers, Arghh!! Thanks for your wonderful insight.

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Me too.

Haha, my "insights" depress me. I'm the pessimist who gets his delight either in saying "I told you so" or in being pleasantly surprised otherwise ;)

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I have to agree with you, NathanJ. At best Eun Sang is annoying. I get the desire for wanting a better life and feeling compelled to do almost anything to get it but the writer has Eun Sang's character dang near bipolar. She's no nonsense and tough one second and practically cowering in fear the next and not because of her new peer group. To think about it, I believe much of Eun Sang's personality is rooted in fear. She's not tough, she's afraid to engage and expect more out of life. This is a girl, who 2 episodes ago, hoped for a stable low waged job. Eug Sang just wants to get by, which is commendable to a degree, but it presents a flaw in the writing. Now the writers are required to build up hope where there is none.

Now, if the writer wants Eun Sang to be ambitious then amp it up and take her there. Let the character become cutthroat and conniving. Show her rise to overthrow Rachel and all the other brats. I want to see her adapt to her surroundings and really get down and dirty. Possibly depicting what that world can do to the innocent. On the other hand, if this isn't the objective then give her a sense of nobility. To fulfill the prerequisite Boys Over Flowers comparison, Jan Di never compromised her integrity. Eun Sang has yet to show any. She regularly disrespects her mother, Kim Tan and if she truly believes Young Do is an ally then its only matter of time before herself.

Besides from the lack of plot and dimension in this drama, this drama is in desperate need of a hero. Someone, anyone, with a pulse that is not afraid to show it. There isn't anyone to be found (out of this way too big cast( possibly CY?)) but I think that's what secretly keeps the audience around because you want someone to rise up out of the self-indulged muck and become a real human.

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I noted back in ep2 or so that I thought ES was a loser because she had decided at the old age of 18 that her life was a failure and had already given up.

Subsequent episodes have not changed my feelings towards her, in fact she seems even more depressing now.

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"EunSang has yet to show any." True that--and I guess that's hopeful, in a way.

Your last paragraph--exactly what I'm feeling. I always wonder how much is purposeful on the writer's part, and how much is just pressured writing--or bad concepts to begin with.

But, sure enough, the rise of a hero at this point would be all the more exciting. It's just that...I guess I expect my heroes before the 6th episode.

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Are ppl here (NathanJ and Z e.g.) familiar with Softy on Cadence? The link to her blog is provided by DB at the bottom of the page. She currently has a series of posts called: Reading between the lines on Heirs. Those posts do a really good job at exploring the subtleties of what is happening in this show, and the psychology of the chars.
She isn't calling them Recaps cos they are more than recaps. She interprets for you what their actions and non-actions (staring, contemplating) mean.

Younger viewers might enrich their viewing experience by reading those posts.

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Um, maybe this drama is more enjoyed if the viewer has enough time to view the drama in its entirety (without skipping facial reactions and some translations) and is passive (no reactions to writers and directors choices of characterization and scenes.)

Thank you for the info on Softy. I depend on these recaps and comments to find what I have missed- "lost in translation." Different lifestyle, culture and language,etc.

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Hmm.. I guess I can understand CES. I have a classmate who didnt come from a well-to-do family and she's really bitter about it. She hates her parents because she blames her parents on the fact that they are living poorly. In her head, teenagers are supposed to enjoy their years and not work all the time and having to worry if they can afford to send her to university. She feels that she has to grow up faster than every one around her and this makes her an angry person. It's like she has to work extra hard to cover for her parents' 'mistakes'. Other kids can go on school trips and have many things that are givento them, but she has to live without that just because she was born into a poor family. Once, she did so much Over Time in her work that she earned more than her dad during her holidays and her dad had to borrow from her to help cover their family's expenses. So I can understand why CES turned out like that. I am not saying that excuse her behavior, but when u grow up like that, you kinda just look at what u can do to survive.

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Ppl have a problem w CES not throwing herself in the fight to save "4Eyes". Instead, I have a problem w YD. Not just becos he is such a bully. But more becos he threatens KT w outing his birth secret. KT told him that becos there were besties. What did YD do after he learnt that secret? He parted ways w KT. Now that KT is back, he is using that knowledge as a weapon vs KT. That is basically the lowest kind of behavior IMO. With that kind of father, he hasn't had a healthy role model.

YD is falling for CES. Will that help him grow a heart?

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That WOULD be interesting. YD coming to...that I would love. Even if K&E go to pot.

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The show has not said he told him about his two moms, lol. Personally I think YD just happened to find out one day and was seriously, and rightfully, pissed that his BFF had hidden this for years. Especially is KT had known details of YDs own happy home life.

Still, he should be over this by now. He sure holds a grudge.

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Yes the show did say so. It is in his character description. KT told him his "secret"

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I actually liked that the main characters have so many flaws because it's more realistic. I don't think EunSang is selfish, but she is a senior in high school that has struggled all her life. If you remember, on her questionnaire for her old school, she basically said she had no dreams or aspirations other than getting a job; she is in survival mode. She has moments of brattiness toward her mom, but who doesn't at her age? This is a girl who has probably worked multiple jobs while maintaining good grades for all of her teenaged life, knowing that she probably wouldn't even be able to go to college. Since she's at Jeguk now, she knows she has a chance to better her situation in life (not just hers, but her mom's too), and she doesn't want to risk that. I think the drama is doing a pretty good job of showing that inner battle between listening to her conscience vs. getting her diploma quietly and moving forward with her life.

As for Tan, I'm glad he didn't turn out to be this wonderful hero from the very beginning. Other characters have referenced it and he himself said it--he used to be one of those bullies; in fact, he is the one who instigated everything. To go from being that kind of person and doing a complete 180 in a couple of years isn't realistic. At this point, he's not interested in being a bully himself, but he hasn't quite learned compassion and empathy.

TL;DR -> Yes, the characters are flawed, but the flaws make sense and are realistic. Also, it shows lots of opportunities for growth, which I am looking forward to.

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Another note: EunSang may not have done anything to stop the bullying, but she is still the only person in that entire school who checked to see if he was okay. She was fuming during the entire scene, but also scared out of her mind because she knew that if people knew her background, SHE would be the one getting bullied.

As for YoungDo, the extremes to which he goes with the bullying (physically and psychologically) is shocking and cringe-worthy. The drama is clearly setting it up so that he'll also fall for EunSang, so maybe the wounded boy inside with the mean exterior will start to show as we progress. Interesting to note that Tan probably bullied kids to that extent in the past as well.

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In upcoming eps, I hope to see:

1. CES befriend "4 Eyes" before he transfers out.

2. Young Do like CES enough for her to be on (relatively normal) talking terms with him.

3. Young Do gradually change his ways under her influence.

4. CES, being PD of the Broadcasting Club, do sth meaningful with that position, e.g. say things in their broadcasts that will make the student body think about their status quo.

5. KT become less passive about his life in his family.

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The school has a caste system. Chan Young belongs to the lowest caste, the Outcasts. Yet he seems none the worst for it. He is not bullied like 4Eyes; he is the Class Representative; he is accepted by students like MS; he is even Bona's BF. So caste boundaries don't seem impenetrable, at least in his case.

Does that mean there is hope for CES's survival at the school? That won't happen till much later, I'm sure. They'll make her suffer first.

Young Do seems to really mind KT being a child of a mistress. His nose is all bent out of joint becos of it. Why?

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maybe YoungDo is jealous that Tan has 2 moms and he doesn't have 1

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LOL. Good pt.

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I'm loving this show. Even if it's way less tense and dramatic than it thinks it is. Lol was that a cliff hanger...? I'm finding it breezy and fun.

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mean girls, korean style...

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@Ivoire,
Here is the link to KT's panda necklace again. Sorry the previous one got messed up. Try this and see if you like that necklace as much as I do.

http://www.didierdubot.co.kr/shop/goods_list.php?cid=006001000000000&depth=1

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Hi KDaddict,
I clicked on it, and it took me to page 1, and I saw some jewelry, but not the Panda necklace. Should I have clicked on the other pages, to be able to see it? (which page # exactly?)

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Hi! I looked through it for you. I hope this links works: http://www.didierdubot.co.kr/shop/goods_view.php?id=0000057008

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Hello ilovemandoo,

And thank you so much for finding that for me. I soooo appreciate that, and I thought that was really kind of you to do that for me :-)
I hope you are having a wonderful day today, and that you will have a great weekend.

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Thank you as well Naneki!
About whether they do international or not, have you thought of leaving a message on their FB page, and ask? Maybe the administrator of the page could let them know that they might have a potential buyer? Just a thought.

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It was late at night, and I was tired. :(

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Awww... KDaddict,

Sooo sorry! I hope you didn't take my comment as a reproach, because I didn't mean it in such a fashion. I knew that I would want to answer to some comments, and it was also late at night (for me). I didn't (really) want to look through the many pages, which was why I asked :-). I hope that you are all rested now.

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I have less questions for this ep.:

1--When YD has the conversation with KT in the music room, did he call KT “Shona? [sp?]”

2—Did KT give the dreamcatcher back to CES? If so, why? So she would only have good dreams?

3—Does anyone know what the orange/brown things are in KT’s room, on each side of his bed? I am curious about those.

This ep. was kind of interesting, though I am starting to feel the predictability JB mentioned yesterday. I cannot say that I was surprised by anything that happened in this ep.
I was intrigued and interested in YD before, now I kind of don’t like him. Why does he continue to be so mean? I am wishing and hoping that down the road, he falls deep in love with ES, and finds himself constantly wanting to protect her.

I am continuing to love KT, and I wish his mother (biological mom) would just let him be, and stop harassing him with questions. She hoovers over him too much, like she wants to use him or something, to become more established in the household.
I loved the question KT asked him in the end, ”what do I do/what can I do, when my [mere] existence since to bother you so much?” Excellent question, should KT just stop breathing? Then he will be dead, is that what KW wants for him?

There are so many characters in this drama, I am starting to wonder if they will all be well developed, and have enough screen time as the drama unfolds. CJH and LJE had limited screen presences in this ep.
Bo Na continues to be funny, in this ep. I wonder how long she is going to continue to pretend that she doesn’t know KT.

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Ivoire,
2. KT sees her taking a nap, and wants her to have good dreams in it. He can't do much else for her. At least he wants to show her he cares that much.
3. Those are speakers for his hi-fi system. Too big/powerful for that amt of space in a bedroom.

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KDaddict,

Thanks, your answers make sense. KT looked so lonely on his bed. I liked that image of him, in a fetal position, on his big bed. It makes me wish ES was there with him, and he would have his arm around her, and they would take a nap (and he would feel better). I love it when they do that in Kdramas.
Some of those actors just look so adorable when they sleep (or pretend to be sleeping, though with how intense their shooting schedule is, I would not be surprised if they took advantage of it to actually sleep, like HB did in SeGa in ep. 13). Joo-won (sp?) had a scene like that in Gaksital (he was sleeping), and he looked sooo cute and adorable...

Or if HJ would take a nap with KW. I was so hoping something like that would happen when she was in his room. There is just something about a man sleeping with total abandonment with the woman he loves, because he trusts her, and he knows and feels that he can be vulnerable in her presence. Lovers in Paris had a scene like that (he slept on her lap) and it was so lovely, and well filmed as well.

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KT is feeling miserable lying on that big bed in that luxurious bedroom of his, thinking of how CES has to go to school in the morning, do chores around the house after school, and work multiple jobs thereafter, such that she is always lacking in sleep, and there is nothing he can do to help her.
I believe he is sulking, w eyes wide open, not sleeping.

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Very intuitive of you. I was wondering what were his thoughts as he lie there.

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@KDaddict,

Thank you for your explanation, it made me understand things better. I knew he was not sleeping (I saw his eyes), and I didn't say he was. I just said that I "wished" he would be taking a nap with ES, because I like that image. I was just expressing my wishful thinking.
I could feel his pain (and his misery), and I love that he continues to feel for her, even though there is not much he can do. I do hope it makes him realize how privileged he is.

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Yeah those orange things are speakers. They are awesome. I want some in my tiny bedroom and I'm not really all that into music. They are just so interesting.

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Thanks Z!

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1-hmmm i dont know which part of that conversation you're referring to... at one point he calls Tan "첩자식" (cheob jashik; a concubine's son)

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Hello Adette,

I don't remember how many mns in it was, because this time around, I didn't write it down. I remember hearing something that sounded like "shona [sp?]" and it caught my attention, because I have heard that word before (doesn't that mean "your majesty" or something like that?)
I could be wrong, of course, but that was what I thought I heard, which was why I was asking.

Thank you for your response.

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ahh that part. the word for "your majesty" or "your highness" is 전하 (jeon-ha, with the h sound not really pronounced).. but in this scene, Young-do actually said 전학 (jeonhak, transfer) which sounds the same except for the k sound at the end. its easy to miss, since the final consonant is said very clearly. the full sentence was "내가 가든 니가가든 가자. 전학." which is something like "whether you go, or i go, let's go [as in, one of us has to go]. transfer." (it makes more sense in korean, since the noun for transferring/changing schools is used with the "to go" verb, whereas in english "transferring" is used on its own, so i think most translations might even leave that part out, cos in english it sounds better without it).

but again, it's super easy to miss. i even googled the sentence to see if i had misheard him:]

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It's because things like jeon-ha, wangbi-mama, gonju-mama, saeja, wanja, and things like that belong to an antiquated formal linguistic called sangeuk. It actually had died out, but revived a little because of the period dramas that has been gaining popularity.

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Thanks for the added info, Naneki.

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I'm so glad you asked this! I was just asking my teacher in a Korean class I'm taking what the word "전하" means and she had no idea. Apparently, she doesn't watch historical dramas and, even though she's a native speaker of Korean, doesn't feel it's important to learn words not currently in use. Or at least, that's how she explained it.

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Jess, you are welcome! We learn from one another's questions and comments :-)

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The terms that Naneki mentioned:
Jeon-ha= Your majesty;
Wangbi-mama=Your majesty the queen;
Gongju-mama=Princess your highness;
Wang Saeja or Saeja=Crown prince;
Wangja=Prince

are no longer in use becos there is no more dynasty in Korea. So Jess' Korean teacher and others may feel that it is not nece to learn such terms that are of no practical use in daily life.

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Thanks KDaddict,
For the added info. You saved me the effort and time to find out exactly what those words mean. Your explanation for Jess' teacher's reaction also seems to be on point. I really like how you are always adding to the conversation.

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"Jeon Hak" means to transfer/change school.
And they keep referring to CES as "jeon hak saeng", which means Transfer Student.

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Thank you KDaddict,
When CES is called Transfer Student, I can hear it, and I can tell it is different. I couldn't tell in YD's case, when he was talking to KT.

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@ adette,

Thank you for explaining more. I was a language major in High School and in college and I speak several languages myself, so I always appreciate it when the beanies take the time to explain linguistics facts to me.

I have not rewatched that scene, and I should. Ok, I went back and I rewatched the scene, and it is about the transfer that YD is advising (at the moment) KT to do. It was translated as "whether it be you or me, one of us should transfer." And you were right, I believe that the word YD used was "jeonhak," at the end of his sentence.

I listened to that sentence at least three times, when I rewatched that scene, and yes, the "k" sound is not said clearly. It could also have to do with the fact that my ears are not well trained to the Korean language, so I didn't know (and I was not sure) about the word YD was trying to say. I could tell (or better yet, I could sense) that YD was being sarcastic, somewhere in that sentence. I thought that, because JB had likened KT's family to a modern day monarchy, YD had called KT " jeon-ha," with the intent of being sarcastic.

Also, I was questioning that because I was also thinking about the comment that Rachel had made about KT being the tiger in the kingdom or in the den (or something along those lines). Because that made me think of a lion (a king then) in his kingdom, since KT was known as Lucifer among the satans (so he was the top dog). And so to me, YD calling him "jeon-ha," (as I thought I heard) would kind of make sense, but he would be telling him "there can't be two captains on this ship. You might think of yourself as a king/majesty here, but that just can't be. You need to transfer [majesty/king]."
I know what I am trying to say, and I hope that I was able to convey that. I just was not absolutely sure that it was what YD said, and I am glad I did not assume what I heard was right. In cases like these, I am glad I actually take notes when I watch Kdramas, so I can remember what I heard or saw, and ask questions or make comments later. Our conversation also makes me realize that some things do get left out in translation, for good reasons (at times), but they do get left out or lost :-)

I also like that by asking such questions, other people get to learn things as well, as evidenced by Jess' comment below. This is one of the reasons why I always, always learn new things when I watch Kdramas. And I agree with you, it would make sense that English translations would leave the word "transfer" out.

About this, "i even googled the sentence to see if i had misheard him." How did you do that? Did the sentence for that drama, in that scene just came up?

I am soooo glad we are having this conversation. Thank you!

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i get what you mean:] i almost wish he had said it that way. it wouldve fit in nicely with the kinds of things the other kids say in reference to tan's position at the school~

i just put the exact phrase into google:] the first page or so of results that come up are things like "reviews"(recaps) and transcripts of the drama.

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Hello Adette,

I don't know if you will see this response, however I thought I would post it, still. After reading your response, I realized that I too, wished he had said "jeon-ha," as I mentioned, in a sarcastic way as if to say, (I know I am repeating myself, however there is a point to this, I promise) "whether it be you or me, one of us should transfer [pause], king/your majesty" while thinking (YD is the one thinking this) "majesty, my behind, you're the result of an illegitimate affair, and your parents are not even married to each other. Why should a child like this become the king of this kingdom?"
And maybe we could have heard YD's thoughts in voiceover, and know what he was thinking that way. And I agree with you, that would have fit well with KT's reputation at school.

I am glad you understood what I was trying to say :-)

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There is actually a manhwa out there that uses all the sangeuk terms that modern Koreans no longer uses. It's called Goong. If you read the manhwa, you'll actually understand a lot of it. Faith, another LMH only touched on it a tiny little bit.

Here is the wiki article:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goong_(manhwa)

Here is a scanlation of the manhwa, if you want to do a quick browse through:
http://www.mangahere.com/manga/goong/

If the mahwa titles sounds familiar, that's because Princess Hour with Yoon Hye Eun, was loosely based on it.

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Hi Naneki,
This is great info, thanks! And yes, when I saw Gong, I immediately thought of the Princess Hours with YHE.

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Ivoire, I think your point about Tan's mother is very insightful. To me she always seemed just kind of fussy and overbearing. However, after reading your post and thinking for a bit, it seemse to me that she does "use" him to an extent. Since she's not married to Tan's father and obviously feels threatened by Wife 2, perhaps she feels that being Tan's mother gives her some leverage.

And sadly, it just diminishes her in Tan's eyes, doesn't it? His ignoring her calls in CA . . .his thinking about about her scornfully, "She always wants another woman's things -her handbag, her husband . . ." -even though she's a mistress, I can't help feeling somewhat sorry for his mother.

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Faye,

I am glad to have been able to help you see Madam Han in a different light, because I do think that she is more than how you describe her. Remember how I was saying that when I watch a Kdrama, I try to understand the characters and what the writer is trying to say to us? Of course, our opinions are subjective and debatable, which we do here (debate our opinions), but I like that we can learn from each other when we share our views.

1--You have to think about where KT's mom comes from: she is not from the same social class. When she was at the elite country club, her sister spoke with an accent (and Madam Han shushed her), which tells us that they are not originally seoulites (not from Seoul, but from another province, maybe the countryside), they come from a lower social class, which Madam Jung (2nd wife) makes a point of reminding her often.

2--She is not established in that household, and she might never be, ever. One translation early on called her the "little madam," so we know she is not the real one, Madam Jung still is. As long as she remains legally married to Chairman dad, she will be (the big Madam, that is), and the one known as the Madam, evidenced by how Rachel's mom calls her and treats her.

3--So, Madam Han is fully aware of that, and she does try to fight it, problem is she has no weapon, no arsenal. That is evidenced by the fact that she feels intimidated when KW is around (remember ep. 1, when she tried to get rid of her wine when KW was coming? Question: why was that?) After all, KW is only 31, and with KT being 18, we can safely assume that she is much older than KW (she looks much older).

4--Yes, Madam Han is fussy and overbearing, but again, ask yourself "why is that?" I believe that it is because she doesn't know what to do. Her "husband/lover" doesn't really give her power, she is not known in their circle (meaning respected, especially since KT is considered the child of wife 2), and she is not the kind to try and do social work, aka helping others. She admitted to ES to not treating her mother right (so she knows that herself), and she spends her days, learning English, drinking wine, and being at the elite country club (is what we have seen her do so far). So, she is very limited and helping others might have given her a purpose, imho.

5--KT therefore becomes her pawn, her piece like in a chess game. If it were not for KT being born, she could not be in that house, having servants, she just couldn't. He is the reason she leaves in that opulence, and the reason she is tolerated. Remember what ES's mom told her, when ES was asking who was in control in the house (to know how she should behave?) I can't remember exactly ES's mom answer (I would have to reread it or rewatch it to really know). Her answer however was a really good one, and was very telling.

5b-- I do believe that Madam Han does love her son, however she is also desperate and envious (very) of others. Remember what KT said about his mom when he was in the US? "She always wants what other people have: their bags, their husband, etc..." and probably their reputation and their social status. She wants to be recognized and acknowledged, she basically wants to belong, she wants status, and the society in SK keeps telling her, she doesn't have any. As human beings, we tend to want what we don't/or can't have.

5c--She then shoots herself in the foot by using (or trying to) KT to advance. She does want to make sure that KT will have the same privileges as his brother, and she should not worry about that, because he does, and he will. As twisted and machiavelic as Chairman dad is, he kinds of loves his sons, in his twisted ways, and he wants them to live well. (I take it back, I am not sure he knows what loving someone is. No one has been happy with him: not KW's mom, not wife 2, not KT's mom. And as KT told him, his sons don't even like him).

6--The leverage that Madam Han seeks (that you mention), she doesn't have it. Why do you think she drinks so much? It is to forget or deal with her reality, the same way people use medication or drugs.

7--About this: "And sadly, it just diminishes her in Tan’s eyes, doesn’t it?"
It does, because KT sees her for who she is. Remember that KT is emotional intelligent, he knows how to read people, and he knows who they are, deep inside (most of the time). He could read ES and know at times how she would feel. He asked her in this ep. if she cried (when he told her about who he was). Pay attention to the tone in his voice when he asked (I watch dramas with headphones on). His tone was gentle, and it sounded like he was not only asking, he was making a statement as well, because he already knew the answer. And ES did not answer which was an admission in itself. There was a lot of subtlety in that scene, and that was very telling. He was also watching her intently when he asked that question, because he was trying to read her at that moment. Also look at how GF wrote his question/statement in this recap: very telling.

I am a nanny and I have worked with children for a very long time. I do that a lot, talking to them and watching them, to see if what they say matches their body language. KT does that as well. Go and rewatch that scene, and you will see what I mean :-)

Faye, I have more to say. Unfortunately, I have to go for now and temporarily stop. I will be back, so please come back later, to see if I was able to finish my thoughts :-)... Thank you!

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You did a great character diagnosis of KT's mom. Thanks.

5c. Chairman dad, the more I learn of him, the colder he is. To me it's like he set up everyone to play with as puppets. His sons, wife and lover, and now Eun Sang. I think he's more vile than Young Do.

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Hi PlumWine,

Thank you for the compliment. Chairman dad is cold that is for sure. When KT told him that his sons don't like him (that was bold of him to say, I thought), he simply replied that it was the fate of a father and he did not seem fazed by it, or hurt at all.
He might be more vile than YD (but who knows? If YD were to continue on the path he is on, maybe he could become like Chairman dad. This is a guy who had his dog bit and physically hurt other women. Who in their right mind does that, even if you don't like those women?), yet he is quite cunning (chairman dad), which I like.

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Ivoire, that was literary analysis-level! Seriously good. I have to start watching the same shows as you, because you really aid my understanding of them.

I had forgotten about Tan's mother's satoori -indicating that she comes from possibly a lower class, but definitely from parts outside of Seoul. Either of which contributes to her insecurity. I can definitely feel some sympathy for her. Still, this isn't the middle ages, so it's not as if her only option in life was to become a rich man's mistress. She *could* have gotten a job. But I appreciate your analysis, and will check back later to see if you have more to say.

The Chairman is still the worst, though. He definitely does not use his power for the good.

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Faye,

I don't know if you will read this response, however I thought I would still post my thoughts. I am glad that you appreciate my "essay," which made me realize a few things myself.

Thank you for mentioning her feeling insecure (KT's mom), because that is very true, as a result of the things I mentioned earlier. She is definitely very insecure and the actress playing her is doing a wonderful job showing her different facets (not that they are too many of those, as far as she is concerned) and her insecurity.

I also do agree with you, that she could have made different choices. Who knows? Maybe she is allergic to working hard, the way ES does :-) and so she made her bed the way she did, and now she has to sleep on it, as rumpled as the sheets on the bed might feel or be.

About this, "The Chairman is still the worst, though. He definitely does not use his power for the good," I agree, though to me YD is also close. YD had his dog bit and physically hurt other women (who, granted maybe should not have dated his dad). YD also dropped KT when he learned that KT was illegitimate (which was why he was blackmailing KT, asking him to transfer or he would spill the beans about his secret. What kind of friend does that, really? Then he was not really a friend, to begin with. Is KT less worthy because of how he was born? KT did not have a say in the matter, by the way. So yeah, I am not fond of YD right now :-) ).

I personally like the chairman, I think he is fun to watch, and maybe it also has to do with the fact that I love how he is being played. Like you mentioned yesterday, he looks physically frail and he even walks slowly, but he is conniving, manipulative and cunning, and I like that. I think he will lose at some point, and I look forward to that. You gotta give it to chairman dad, he adds to the drama, and makes things interesting :-).

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Faye, PART 2 of my analysis of KT's mom:

7--I made a mistake, I meant to say that KT is emotionally intelligent, not "emotional intelligent."

8--Besides seeing his mom for who she is, KT (I believe), actually loves his mom. In a previous ep., we saw him tell his mom that he missed her, which is huge. He might even like her some, which is why he lets her sit with him, when he eats. However, her constant hovering when he is around annoys him and makes him not want to spend time with her. And that is why I said that she shoots herself in the foot, in the way she handles her relationship with KT. She doesn't allow him to just be himself, when he is around her. And she is definitely not "his soft place to fall," as Dr. Phil would put it. Rachel could be that soft place, however he doesn't love her, he doesn't like her, and he doesn't want to give her false hopes about them. I do wish that he would treat her better though. She deserves at least that.

Let's also remember that KT is 18 (17 in Western age, which means he actually got engaged at 16, wow!), which also means that he is trying to figure things out (for himself), and he is at that period in one's life when s/he is trying to become independent from his/her parents. So the hovering mom is doing, again is not helping.

9--About this you said, "even though she’s a mistress, I can’t help feeling somewhat sorry for his mother." I am actually of two minds about Madam Han: I do feel sorry for her but only to an extent. She exists, but she is not to be seen, she is not really heard (by no one really), and she has no power. She cannot go to public functions with KT's dad, or be seen in public with him, even though she is the one who takes care of him, and of his home. That has to be hard. All she can do is be in that house, drink, shop, and she can't make herself conspicuous in public. People (outside of the house), don't know who she is.

On the other hand, if you think about it, she is living a pretty good life, especially compared to ES's mom. I would fee more sympathy for her if she treated people better: the people who serve her, her son, etc... She does have money, she could do good things with it, if she wanted to, and no one would have to know. Wealthy people donate and help in their community and around the world all the time, and they can do it anonymously if they wish. It would give her a purpose.

She can continue to learn English (she could even hire a private tutor), she can learn how to crochet :-) (OK, I was being facetious here). I was going to say that she could travel, but she has to take care of chairman daddy, so she might be limited there maybe..., but you get my point. She could take a real interest in her son, besides figuring out how to use him. The poor boy wants someone to talk to (about his life and about ES). I LOVE to talk, he can call me or come visit. I am also a good cook, I think we would have a good time :-). And as you know, I pay attention to details, so what is not to like? :-)

I find KT's mom to be an interesting character. She is not very smart, emotionally or otherwise. She doesn't really care about others either, except if it threatens her life in the house (ES's mom). She does inform us however a little bit about why KT is the way he is. She is in his circle of influence, because she is closely related to him. This is just my 2 cents anyway.

Do you know perhaps see why I said yesterday that I approach Kdramas the way I would a literature class :-)? And why I said that I like to think my way through them? Also, DB always makes a point of listing who the writers and PDs of an upcoming dramas are and they list some of their past work. From what I read about KES (writer of this drama), she likes to use metaphors, subtle meanings, witty banter, themes (the little mermaid in SeGa, the Dreamcatcher in this one) in her dramas, so I always try to think about the underlying things/topics/themes/issues she might be trying to convey. Reading recaps of the drama on different blogs, and reading various comments, help me understand the drama and the characters in it, better.

I hope you enjoyed reading my dissertation, because I enjoyed writing it :-)... I hope to read back from you :-)

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Hi Ivoire, to answer more of your questions about the school... The TCIS students do not have classes on Saturday which is why they were able to film secretly for so long. Last Saturday there were jamborees at the school so the students finally saw what was happening. Kakao is like Skype and WeChat, very popular in Korea. I love the drama but I'm a total KDrama addict and devote almost 5 hours everyday to watching them. I watch the drama raw as they are aired, then read the recaps, then watch the subbed version. There are so many KDramas sometimes it's hard to juggle life around them. I am finding the pace of this drama to be too slow. They can cut out all the staring scenes. I am not a good judge of how well this drama is doing in Korea. All my friends are watching it because of the connection with TCIS, otherwise I think it is too young for them. My son is in grade 4 so has no interest but his female classmates are definitely into it.

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Hello Rachelle,
Good to hear from you again and thank you for coming back to answer more of my questions. I will be back later to respond. Just wanted to let you know.

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