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Heirs: Episode 7

We get a glimpse into the past discord between our former BFFs, although we’re left with more questions than answers. It’s nice to see our hero being drawn out of his introverted shell by degrees, despite the sense I get that he’d prefer to stay in it for as long as possible, going unnoticed if at all possible. Well, as unnoticed as the famous, hottie future heir to a national conglomerate can hope to go, that is. Invisibility hardly comes with the territory.

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EPISODE 7 RECAP

Outside the neighborhood convenience store, Eun-sang pretends to sleep while Young-do sits at her table and tries to wake her up. “Why do you always sleep in these kind of places?” he wonders. “It makes me want to protect you.”

Tan calls from across the street, and they have a bit of a stare-off until Young-do tells Eun-sang to give up her sleeping act. He assumes that Tan is here for Eun-sang, but Tan scoffs at that, saying that he doesn’t care what they do. Telling Young-do to save his bad behavior for his own neighborhood, Tan leaves.

Young-do tells Eun-sang to run along after Tan, still convinced they’re here to see each other. She retorts that he’s wrong and leaves him to his ramyun.

Tan’s show of indifference is just for Young-do’s benefit, and the moment she enters the courtyard he pops up to grill her—shouldn’t she be more careful of where she sleeps? Why was she with Young-do? He’d warned her against him, and asks if Young-do did any threatening. Eun-sang replies that he said he wanted to protect her, and Tan bursts out, “That’s a threat!”

She asks what happened between them, and he sighs, “I don’t remember. All I know is we hate each other now.”

She makes it a point to enter the house separately, but Tan rather enjoys popping into the kitchen to interrupt the conversation between her and his mother. She plays it off like this is their first encounter, and Madam Han makes the introductions.

After Tan exits, Madam Han enlists Eun-sang as her spy to report back on Tan’s doings at school, though she’s quick to warn Eun-sang to remember her place—they may be living in the same house and going to the same school, but in no way are they on the same level. Tan overhears from the hallway with dismay as his mother basically tells Eun-sang she’s the servant and he’s the young lord.

Eun-sang finds a brand-new Jeguk High uniform hanging in the room, and freaks out to hear that her mother bought it. Mom assures her that she can handle the cost, and Eun-sang lights up in gratitude.

Rachel flips her lid, as usual, at another attempt by her mother to solidify the new family relationships—this time it’s a family photo with Young-do’s side. She snaps at her mother to have fun taking photos without her, then storms off to confront Young-do about it, finding him post-judo practice. (Is it a written into the contract that one scene per episode must feature somebody taking conspicuous swigs of that energy drink? For all the exposure it’s getting, they could’ve at least tried to write it in, a la Vitamin Water.)

Rachel is dead-set on finding some way to break up their parents’ engagement, impatiently brushing aside his quip to date him (“I said their engagement, not mine”). He offers that while he doesn’t have a plan for wrecking the engagement, he can stop the photo shoot from happening, and that grabs her interest. He demands a quid pro quo, though—nothing comes free.

At the crack of dawn, Eun-sang emerges from the house to find Tan haunting the gate waiting for her—he’d wondered how early she was leaving to avoid him, and waited extra-early to find out. It’s his driver’s day off so he’s called a taxi, and insists she ride with him.

During the ride, Tan instructs her on what to report back to his mother: “The kids all like him, because he’s good-looking. He studies well too, because he’s good-looking.” Psh. He notes how quick she was to agree to play spy, and she points out that she isn’t at liberty to refuse anything in his house.

Eun-sang explains her early departure as only be partially related to avoiding him, so he asks about the other reasons. Her thoughts flash to the parade of chauffeured cars dropping off kids at school, but she merely answers that she’s avoiding traffic. He overrides her choice to get dropped off at a distance from school, saying that nobody will be there at school this early to see them arriving together, which seems to me the opposite of what’s bound to happen.

When she tries to protest, he distracts her with the ol’ “What’s that?” ruse, then rests his head on her shoulder before she can do anything about it. He really can be adorable when he’s being boyish and sweet, rather than so broody and introspective. “Let’s go together,” he says, adding, “The uniform looks good on you.” Which is both flattering and meaningful, since the word for “it looks good” also means “it suits you”—as in, she belongs in those clothes, just like the rest.

On campus, they walk in separately, though Tan follows behind her at a steady pace while she remains acutely aware of his presence the whole time. Staring at the back of her head, he frowns and speeds up, pulling the ponytail tie out of her hair. He teases by mussing the rest of her hair and saying she looks prettier with more of her face covered, which is when they’re interrupted by the arrival of Myung-soo, here at school direct from yet another night clubbing.

Myung-soo wonders why they’re together but thankfully isn’t particularly interested in pressing for answers. He thinks vaguely that Eun-sang looks familiar, but gets distracted from following that thought either.

Madam Han’s sister (or possibly close friend) drops by the house for a visit, and Madam Han once again drops back to her native saturi accent. It’s a comic gag, seeing two luxuriously dressed ladies gabbing about like bumpkin ajummas, which is exactly the point.

Madam Han’s plan to find some dirt on second wife Madam Jung has so far been unfruitful; her guy has only gotten photos of her in the most mundane activities. Nothing scandalous or incriminating at all. And it’s equally unlikely they’ll be able to dig up anything on Won.

Just then, the ladies jump to see Mom in the room, quietly going about her cleaning duties. Ha, they really are lucky she isn’t more malicious, because they’re just incriminating themselves left and right. Madam Han decides she’ll have to check one more time to make sure that Mom really can’t speak, and tries sneaking up on her in the kitchen… only to be foiled by her own reflection in the refrigerator door. She is so terrible at being crafty, I love it.

She decides she doesn’t need to know the particulars of Mom’s condition and tries one more time to sneak-scare her (into yelling, I presume), which falls hilariously flat. We get a glimpse at Mom’s notepad, which tells us she lost her ability to speak at the age of three, after falling victim to a fever.

Eun-sang interviews with Hyo-shin for the broadcasting club opening, though he points out that she no longer needs to buy a uniform (the accompanying scholarship was her original motivation). She admits to lying (“It sounded like it,” Hyo-shin says) and talks herself up, though he doesn’t seem swayed.

When Bo-na sees Eun-sang, she votes against her admission since she doesn’t want her boyfriend’s best friend hanging around (amusingly, Hyo-shin almost seems like that’s enough for him to say yes)… until one of Hyo-shin’s groupies comes by for an interview and Bo-na declares the slot filled. Eun-sang it is! Lesser of two evils, and all that.

Eun-sang ties up her hair in a ponytail as she walks, only to have Tan come up from behind and swipe her hair tie again. Ha. He is literally a boy pulling the ponytail of the girl he likes. Eun-sang catches Young-do watching from a distance, looking a lot more upset by the sight than he has any right to be.

Bo-na mishears a word for Tan’s name, proving again that she’s got a fixation on him despite all her insistence to the contrary. Chan-young asks about her dating him, and she declares that all they did was hold hands, which he jokingly says upsets him. He asks Bo-na to keep Eun-sang’s personal circumstances secret, but she huffily refuses to make the promise.

Chan-young finds Tan staring at the wall of photos in the lounge, in particular the one of him and Young-do looking like best friends. Tan asks about Chan-young’s relationship with Eun-sang and if they’ve ever had any romantic feelings between them, and states frankly that his own position is “a step right before confession.” Chan-young describes liking Eun-sang when he was nine; he was a small kid and Eun-sang would fight the kids who picked on him.

That seems to relieve Tan, and when asked about holding hands with Bo-na, he quips that it was only because his hands were cold then.

Won drops by to meet his father, stating his intention to live on his own. Until now it was a temporary situation, but now he’s decided there’s no place for him to return to here. Chairman Dad tsk-tsks that he thought Won would handle this with intelligence and class, to which Won points out that Dad’s move of bringing Tan to the company was hardly those things.

He says he knows he has more to lose than to gain, “But it’s not like I have nothing to gain. Somebody will end up hurt. And that somebody’s pain will be a comfort to me, Father.” Such a bleak outlook. He adds that if he must lose things, well, so be it.

Won packs his things, and Tan finds him in his room, all lit up with the hope that hyung is moving back in. Won is quick to push little bro away, saying that only real families should live together. Tan asks, hurt, how his brother can just move out because he moved in. Won retorts that it’s Tan who’s chasing him around like a little kid: “If you keep it up, I have nowhere to escape to. You ask how I can do this to you? But you don’t think of how you’re the one stealing away places from me? Or will I have to go to America this time?” Telling Tan to grow up, he leaves.

Won heads to the wine cellar to pack a few bottles, and Tan follows him there to apologize for everything—for going to the hotel, for coming back to Korea. He says he understands hyung’s feelings, which makes Won bristle at the presumption. Won derides, “You have enough courage to come back, but not to fight? How dare you—”

And then Tan hugs him. Aww. “I won’t fight with you,” he says. “It’s obvious I’d lose. How could I win a fight I don’t mean?” Once again, Won cuts his brother off mid-sentence and leaves.

Tan hangs out in front of the house, on hand again to startle Eun-sang upon her arrival. She starts out talking stiffly in jondae (using his mother as an excuse), but he orders her to return his dreamcatcher and meet him in the wine cellar.

He gets there first, and sets a song to play—the one she’d played the other day. Eun-sang shows up to return the dreamcatcher and starts to go, but he suggests she stay for the rest of the song, which is the flimsiest excuse if I’ve ever heard one. But it works, and she confides that she likes the song, which was liked by “the person I liked like crazy.” Immediately he gets into jealous mode and quizzes her, then grins when she points out that she never said it was a guy. (It’s her sister.)

They settle into a pleasant conversation (for once), where he asks how it feels being back in the Korea she’d wanted to leave. She says that it’s more or less the same, work-work-working all the time, though thanks to him and her school situation she’s a little bit more unhappy. She asks what it feels like being born into the Jeguk Group family, and he paraphrases Hong Gil-dong to say that he can’t call his mother his mother, or his brother his brother.

He starts to ask her a question, but she deflects, saying that all his questions have been dangerous. With that, she leaves, though she spends the rest of the evening thinking back to conversations with Tan, like him saying he might like her.

The next morning at school, a crowd of annoyed students crowds around the doorway of a classroom, being held out by two guys who stand guard. Bo-na pushes her way through and finds Young-do looming over Eun-sang menacingly, saying he needs to have a little chat with Nouveau Riche here.

He grabs Eun-sang’s bag and upends the contents all over the floor, then grabs Bo-na’s bag and does the same. Lying on the ground is a stark contrast between luxury and thrift, heiress and commoner. He insinuates that she’s a charity case impersonating a rich person, which would be an affront to all the rest of them. He asks Bo-na what Eun-sang’s deal is, and to her credit she doesn’t blab, despite her comment earlier about not feeling any need to keep quiet.

What kind of backup does she have that makes her so confident, Young-do wonders. On cue, Chan-young pushes through the crowd, and Young-do scoffs that Eun-sang sure has a lot of black knights rushing to her aid: “It makes me feel competitive.” It gets him to back off, though, and he leaves the room as the students trickle in. Chan-young thanks Bo-na for not talking, though she’s annoyed enough to snap at him.

One of the students takes the gossip to the class next door, where Tan and Rachel both look up to hear about Young-do’s behavior. Tan bolts up to do something about it, but the teacher arrives and calls class to order, and he sits back down.

He spends all of class fidgety and distracted, and goes in search of Eun-sang as soon as it’s over.

A crowd gathers at the lockers as the timid bullying victim, Joon-young, holds out a piece of paper to Young-do. Crap, did Young-do actually sue his victim for assault? You are such an asshole.

Joon-young asks Young-do to rescind the suit, and Young-do just laughs. Eun-sang watches with the utmost sympathy while Joon-young begs, asking what he can do to get Young-do tp take it back. Young-do offers no guarantee, but suggests that a proper kneeling might get him to change his mind.

So Joon-young gets on his knees and Eun-sang flinches to see it. On one hand I sorta want her to step in, but on the other she was recently Young-do’s victim too so she’s in zero position to help.

Into the mix comes Tan, who shakes his head at the scene and orders Joon-young to get up. But Joon-young finds nothing generous in the gesture and says he’s as much of a bastard as Young-do is, telling him to butt out. Tan asks his usual question, “Did I used to bully you in the past?”—and Joon-young bites out, “At least Young-do remembered.” Burn.

“I’m sorry,” Tan says. “I’ll repay you this way.” And THWACK. He slugs Young-do in the face. It’s the thought that counts, I’m sure, though surely somebody must note the irony of apologizing for violence, then making amends for it with more violence?

“Since I’ve hit you too,” Tan says, “make me kneel too.” Young-do approaches with a murderous glint in his eye, only to have a teacher break up the scene.

The boys are brought before Madam Jung, who’s the school board director, and Young-do puts on his choirboy facade, saying that friends sometimes fight, “But it hurts my feelings.” Madam Jung scolds Tan for causing trouble and telling him to transfer if he keeps this up.

Young-do assures her that it’s no big deal, but he likes this idea of sending Tan to another school and tells him to think it over. Tan retorts that it’s the one who’s more embarrassed who should be the transferee, and Young-do chides Tan for disregarding his mother’s advice just because she’s not his bio-mom.

As the boys go their separate ways, we’re taken to a flashback of their middle school days, when Young-do had been avoiding Tan and Tan had confronted him about it.

Younger Tan asks if this is because of what they’d seen the other day, and if Young-do is feeling embarrassed over it. Young-do grabs him threateningly, but Tan says, “That’s not something to be embarrassed about, it’s just something that hurts.” And that’s when Tan confides one such thing of his own, that his mother isn’t his birth mom.

Tan says this as a way of connecting with his buddy, only to have Young-do spit out, “You’re illegitimate? So if a baby is born between my dad and that woman we saw him with, it’ll be a bastard like you.” Geezus. And I’m supposed to find Young-do the least bit appealing?

The fight is the big gossip item of the day, and Bo-na exults in Young-do’s payback while her friends argue that Young-do was the victim this time, saying that perchance her old affection for Tan is putting her on his side. She scoffs at that, then confronts Rachel about blabbing to Chan-young about her dating history. The two girls trade barbs about the usual—mind your own business, no mind yours—and stalk off huffily.

Rachel’s mother picks her up from school and hears about the fight. Ever one to rub it in, Rachel uses it to point out that Young-do and his father are alike in their ill-mannered tendencies. Rachel’s mother heads to the hotel to ask for Young-do, and while she’s at it she asks for Won’s secretary’s number. Ha, I’m surprised she doesn’t already it; what kind of lame secret affair are you having without his number?

She calls Manager Yoon straightaway, pouting a little that she had to call first. He says he was just giving her time to think things over, and Chairman Dad surmises from his end of the conversation that he’s dating. Manager Yoon doesn’t say with whom, though coincidentally enough, his report is all about Rachel’s mother—specifically, her stake in Jeguk Group and Zeus Hotel, and how much stock she’ll hold upon her marriage with the Zeus president.

At school, Eun-sang ignores a call from someone she’s named “Don’t Pick Up,” but the caller is persistent and she reluctantly answers. It’s Young-do, inviting her to share some jajangmyun he wants delivered, which she flatly refuses. But he says she’ll change her mind once Joon-young talks to her—he’d told him he’d “consider” canceling the lawsuit if he got Eun-sang to come to him.

Eun-sang fumes, but shows up as coerced. She demands to know why he’s playing around with her and Joon-young, dangling that damned lawsuit as bait when he has no intention of canceling it. He counters that he will cancel it now that she’s come, using an overly flowery phrase to mock-marvel at how her presence changed his heart, which pisses her off even more—stop fooling around. He asks, “Does everything I do seem like a joke?” Well, yes, that’s your entire M.O. Laugh at everything, be hurt by nothing, isn’t that it?

Rachel shows up at Young-do’s door, peeved at her ignored calls and his continued inaction on the part of Operation Cancel Photo Shoot. He says he’s dining with an important guest, and she pushes her way in to see for herself. You know, I almost feel bad for Rachel for being thwarted by Eun-sang yet again, but it’s sort of funny to watch her head explode every time.

But as always, Rachel undoes any ounce of sympathy she manages to shore up by reacting immediately like a brat: She calls Tan to chirp that Eun-sang is enjoying a cozy dinner in Young-do’s suite.

Eun-sang excuses herself, and I’d almost think Young-do feels a little bit abandoned, if only for the fact that I remain unconvinced he has feelings.

Tan calls Eun-sang repeatedly, only to have his calls go unanswered. He heads out right away and finds, with some relief, that she’s busy at work closing up shop at the cafe. He drags her outside and takes her to task for going to Young-do’s hotel. She points out that she stayed with him when he could have been some druggie, and he takes that as proof of her foolishness—she shouldn’t have, because he could’ve been dangerous.

“But you’re not that kind of person,” she says. She tells him about the lawsuit bait, and how she had to try to help even if Young-do doesn’t drop the suit. She points out that Young-do’s picking on her because of Tan, and he exclaims, “That’s why I’m telling you to be careful! I don’t want something to happen to you because of me!”

He asks her to not do anything and not worry him, and she flings that back at him—can’t he leave her alone? It’s hard enough for her just to keep hanging in there, but she’s got Young-do breathing down her neck and Tan upsetting her at every turn, and she doesn’t know what to do.

Tan offers her a solution: “Leave my house tomorrow. Or can you not do that? Do you want to keep going to school? Then like me—if possible, for real. I like you.”

 
COMMENTS

This may be an unpopular opinion, but one of my blocks with this show is the character of Young-do—I just can’t stand him. This isn’t a case of a character being charming despite his asshole tendencies, or feeling conflicted about liking a guy who does so many reprehensible things. Rather, I flat-out have zero patience for him or his shit-stirring ways, and find nothing sympathetic or magnetic about him whatsoever. He’s written like the classic arrogant alpha hero (the kind who harbors inner pain and is brought to his knees by love and transforms and shows his true puppy underbelly, blah blah blaaahhhh), only for whatever reason I just want him off my screen.

It has nothing to do with the acting, because Kim Woo-bin has great sardonic delivery and he’s perfect with the deadpan bon mots, the turn-on-a-dime personality that’s equal parts charismatic and menacing. But Kim Woo-bin isn’t elevating the character of Young-do for me, and in fact I think Young-do is taking away some of my Kim Woo-bin love. And as a result, none of this love triangle business has any weight for me, and I don’t really care about what kind of bad experiences Young-do has had to make him this way, because at a certain point you can’t excuse bad behavior with “but he had a mean daddy” reasoning. He gets no free pass from me, and I’m not sure that at this point the writing is going to be able to turn the ship around for me. Bleh.

Which is strange, because when you put Tan and Young-do next to each other, I can see how Young-do is the dynamic, complicated one. Tan is sort of boring and vanilla in comparison, because it’s pretty straightforward how his background made him the guy he is today. I suppose the difference is that sometimes I DO want the nice guy to win, and Tan is earnest and sweet, and for the most part not too objectionable. He’s got an asshole past too, so he’s got some redeeming to do—at least for his own conscience’s sake—but the guy he is right now is trying to get through with his head down low and avoiding trouble.

The trouble with that is, it’s made him avoid basically everything, retreating inside his head and his writing and disengaging from real life. And in that sense his trajectory is more muted and internal a path than some of the others’, but I find it as compelling if not more, just the same.

Nobody in this show is outright evil in the sense of a conventional villain, and we have varying shades of selfishness, pettiness, pride—you know, normal human weaknesses. So I appreciate that at least the characterizations feel rather slice-of-life and relatable to varying degrees; we may not be heirs to future billions, but the emotions deal with universal stuff—teenage rebellion, parental opposition, angst over broken families, the need to fit in.

That said, I’m starting to run into the problem of not really liking anybody all that much, so it’s hard to feel too invested in their growths. Tan and Won have a great dynamic, and Mom’s a hoot, and Madam Han makes me laugh, and… well, everyone else tends to be set dressing. I’m onboard with the main romance because that’s the direction the show is taking us, and I’m enjoying the show enough to stay along for the ride. I can’t help but wish for a little more zing, though, a reason to invest my mind and feelings full-force.

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Omo omo, i am 1st to read the review.thank you :)

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Anyone seen the still for Eun Sang and Kim Tan's first kiss?? :)) ;*

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Hi tata~ Just so you know, dramabeans has a spoilers-are-no-nos policy and that includes references like yours. Thanks.

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IT'S HERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! OMG OMG CHAN-YOUNG <3

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I loved this episode so much more than episode 6! And to think I was worried...

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I agree with most of your review. I can understand why you don't really like anyone (we're not given enough time to figure anyone out yet except for Eun Sang and Tan). I think that now they are focusing more on side characters and we start to see some of their backstories, you will like someone more.

I like that this show doesn't make our heroine seem like the perfect girl or our hero the same old grumpy guy with a past. They are not exactly what we expect and that interests me into watching episode after episode.

But I agree, if they don't do something to show off the character progression a little more (whether they make them progress towards a better attitude, or a more villainous one), I'm not going to care about these people anymore.

The biggest thing I'd have to disagree with you on is the character of Young Do. I LOVE it. He is so evil and he scares me but it brings a sense of unease and unpredictability to the show.

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I really came into this drama with an open mind, actually scratch that, I came in wanting to like the drama. But 4 weeks in and I’m asking, why? What is the point of the drama exactly? Is it the lives of rich kids, is it about the grass isn’t always greener on the other side or is it a political commentary meant to rile up the SK citizens to ask why they allow Chaebols to have so much control on their country and lives.

This drama lacks a coherent message. It tries to do too much and ends up flailing all over the place. There are too many side characters lobbying for attention and so no forward progress is made. The fact that they waited till episode 6, to finally explain the social hierarchy is just absurd. That should have been the opening and at least helped connect the storyline early.

Same thing with the bullying plot; bullying is a hot topic in Korea right now and with the success of School 2013 the writer has decided to add it here. But somehow the message is lost in translation. They are almost making the bully look cool. Woobin is getting the “Bad Boy” edit, not bad guy edit. Bad Boy edit, as in the sexy guy, young girls fall for. What is the point of the extended bullying scenes? If you are going to tackle bullying, then do it well. And not some off shoot side story to fill scenes.

Talking of scene filling, what is up with the long glances and long pauses in this drama? Long wistful looks and non-dialogue sequences. In a drama that is already moving at snail speed, adding pauses just makes it duller. And dull is what this drama does well.

Don’t know who to blame, maybe it is shared – the writer, the director, the set designer, costumer, etc. For a drama about wealth, the sets and locations are not that impressive. The outfits look odd, not avant-garde. The makeup they are using makes the cast look gray and pallid. The director chooses to shoot the drama like he is filming Sleepy Hollow Part 2, instead of what is supposed to be a drama about the high glitz life of the uber-rich. Everything looks dark and dim. Are they even using HD cameras, even at 720p, the picture doesn’t look sharp or crisp.

The casting is no better either. Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye are so miscast, it is ludicrous. People were complaining about some of the other cast members. But the 2 leads are like sore thumbs in this drama. It’s not even because of their physical age, but their acting does not belong in a teen drama. Seeing LMH try to act like a lost kid is so jarring and takes me out of the story. When he panders to his older brother, I want to yell man up already, but then I realize he is supposed to be in High School. LMH should be playing the Hyung, not the lost brother.

Again, don’t want it to seem like I am unfairly bashing this drama, but the drama is just all over the place and boring to boot.

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Stories don't have to have a message. This is a love story with maybe a side of redemption (though, as Javabeans pointed out, it's a quiet one.) So it's not that the drama is being told wrong, it's just not to your taste (assuming message-stories are your thing).

But that's why the long gazes and such. It's a love story. That's what love stories do. (Also, I don't know what kind of school you went to, but the school sets at least are pretty amazing.)

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Fully agree! Not all dramas have to have a message! Some people watch just to laugh, fall in love or forget...

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Actually the long gazes tie into the dream catcher and the dreams/future theme. I do however call overuse and just stop enough already tho lol.

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@Mar: Ooh, I can see that -- the whole yearning thing, right? I'm still cool with the long gazes because the romance itself is actually moving at a fairly brisk pace. (Not even halfway through and we've got a confession.) Though, I do prefer their brisk banter. :)

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Ditto

I agree with you

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make it DITTO DITTO #2. :)

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I agree with you!!

"Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye are so miscast"

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I totally agree with what you said.

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@domidoso - thanks for writing all that, it saved me typing out what I think are the same ones you described. I think it ls not coherent because there really IS no plot - it is a bunch of disconnected microplots (mostly about people I don't care about... hmm well, actually I don't really care about a single person in this drama..) with little or no connection.

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*slow clap*
aye aye to that.
i couldnt picture LMH as a high-schooler either. the first couple of episodes had me thinking that he was much much older. but that bubble burst.
and now i stick to reading recaps than watching the drama.

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Fully agree with you. This drama is just a pointless money-making venture designed specifically to pander to the tastes of BOF-lovers. And after roles like the ones in City Hunter and Faith, LMH's high school avatar looks ridiculous.

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Glad im not the only one with dying interest in this series. I was a little put off by all the hype - i tend to doubt things marketed in such ways - but i was hoping LMH would make up for it. I think Im going to stick to the recaps. I really had no desire to continue watching after last week and this recap just solidifies that opinion of mine. Ill just read the series recaps. Too much empty space in the show to justify watching it.

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The bullying seems like an echo of BOF's. In both instances very repugnant. I'm surprised the actors took the HS roles. It is too much of a stretch to accept them as teenagers. Still they are satisfying in their portrayals of the roles, just too mature for them.Woo Bin does diabolical well. He is a pleasure to watch. He entices as he repels.

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I so agree with you about the casting of Lee Min Ho!
Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love him and he was basically the only reason why I started watching the show, but dang, he does not look like 18.

Maybe it would work for me if he'd only played High School roles since BOF, but seeing him in all those older roles really doesn't help.

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I couldn't disagree with you more. I'm about to watch episode 7. And while this is not the BEST drama ever, it's pretty darn good.

1) Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye were perfect. I LOVE how they feed off each other. The writing of their dialogue, I don't like so much. It's a typical Lee Min Ho character. Big ego, trying to control the woman. But they can get away with that because of the subtleness in their acting we haven't been able to see much before from these two. One scene in particular I can think of is the scene in the wine cellar. You know that Eun Sang would like to be with Kim Tan or she wouldn't yield to his beck and call. But she also wants to make it clear that she doesn't want to give her heart to him. He's too unattainable to her. Which leads me back to the scene in the car when Tan says "That uniform suits you." That look in her eyes when she thinks, "Hey! Maybe I have a chance!" It's so hopeful and heartbreaking at the same time.

2)I like the bullying plot... A LOT. Like I said, Young Do scares me. He's unpredictable and uncaring. It might be something petty in his past that makes him that way, sure, but the way he looks at other menacingly tells me he is a loose cannon. I would love to see them going dark places with the character of Young Do.

3)In terms of makeup/wardrobe, they are spot on. I work in the fashion industry right now and they are right on with trend. Especially high fashion.

4)Finally, about the message. I think this story's message is about being ok with where you come from but settling for it. I think the message is about rising above your upbringing to become the person you want to be.

After hearing this, do you agree or disagree with my assessment, domidoso?

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And i comment #4, I meant "not settling for it"

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I have to come out of lurking for years to add my 2 cents.

I agree with you about the outfits. I also work in the fashion industry and I'm always marveling at how well put together all the outfits are, especially Rachel's and Tan's. The school uniforms are even fabulous and that's a hard trick to pull off.

I can't stand Tan's mother's outfits because they're extremely ill fitting, but I'm assuming that's done on purpose to illustrate just how fish-out-of-water she is in that über rich world.

As for the story, I was expecting not to like this drama at all, especially after watching (and being supremely annoyed by) the first few episodes, with the sucktastic portrayal of Americans, but now I can't stop watching. I have been sucked in by Kim Woo-Bin's so-evil-I-love-to-hate-him persona on the show, as well as PSH and LMH's ridiculously-miscast-but-making-it-work-anyway aesthetic.

I could do without most of the other story lines and characters, but some of them are fun to watch, like Krystal's cute but not hateful bitchiness (I didn't think I'd like her acting but there u go) and her boyfriend in the show, whatever his name is. Rachel is another good character...hopefully evil Won ends up falling for her and they can be assholes to each other 'til death do they part.

This show is like k-drama crack. I can't stop watching for love or money. Is it the best? Hell no, but I need to know what happens next. Hopefully they cut down on the 2 minute soulful gazes and unnecessary plot lines and we'll be good to go.

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Oh my god, u said almost everything on my mind except I didn't really bother about their cameras and make up. LMH acting like a weak kid is really making me cringe. Gosh he's a fully grown man, hot to the max... How is is possible for us to c him as an innocent kid?! And PSH's acting, I really don't know what to expect out of it. Her tears brings no sort of emotion to me whatsoever. When she cries, I'm just like: Alright kiddo, stop wasting my time. If not because LMH & PSH look alright, I would've smashed the screen every time they do those 5min character back-to-back, facing each other, or opposite ends of each other... It's like they r just trying to buy time and they have got no solid story in it

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I agree. Young Do's menacing and evil characteristics is appealing, I love his character the most. Woo Bin pulls off the sexy psycho bully really well!

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I'm just so disturbed with his behavior. He's a SADIST. I can understand why ppl like GJP in BOF but not YD. GJP is a jerk bully thinking everyone is beneath him but he is kind of innocent in love department which I find it cute. But YD character is too dark, he seeks victims while GJP doesn't, he only retaliates ppl that annoy him. I don't know if I can continue watching him enjoying bullying other kids.

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I am totally disappointed with the writing right now...it's slow and the writer puts a heavy hand on everything...totally not the fault of the guy who plays young do but he's starting to look like a 1 dimensional predictable character - this writer of this drama needs some inspiration right now. She has the hottest actors in her drama and this is the best she can do? It's not a bad drama by any means, but really....predictable.

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I hate Young-do!

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So do I, to an extent :-)...

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Lol, I'm with you.

I also disagree that Young Do has no redeeming qualities. I think they're doing a good job with his character. I hate him but yet I can't fully hate him.

In real life, we're supposed to hate someone like him 100%, but there's something about him that makes us like him at least a teeny bit (Maybe 98% hate, 2% love).

For example, suing his bullying victim? Pretty crazy and crafty. I couldn't help but laugh at that in a who else would do such a crazy thing other than Young Do?

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I agree, they have written him off a cliff and it will be very hard to redeem him at this point. There is no bad boy turned good arc that can excuse the extremely hateful things he has done.

I really wish Woo Bin hadn't taken this role. He had so much buzz from S2013 and his upcoming movie and this darn drama is stealing his thunder arrrghhhh!!

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blame the writer; i'm totally disappointed in how she's written his character so far...what a waste of his talent

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Heck, if anything all the actors on this show is being wasted.

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I don't get Young-Do. What's up with that guy? He switches between hot and cold so much that I don't know why he is paying attention to Eun-Sang.
Surely based on his discovery of her part-time job delivering fried chicken, he knows she's not rich. Yet he made the effort to get her number. Then he got angry and threatens to out her to the other students. After that he invited her over while he eats, to do what exactly I can't even begin to guess. He was being quiet subdued (in comparison to the attack in the class - the one where he up ended her backpack) yet he was still threatening her (here's where it gets murkier to me - he was doing it in a joking/teasing manner yet I clearly get the impression that it was definitely a veiled threat).

Then the whole thing with Tan. He threatens to out him too. Saying how it disgusts him that Tan's mom is the mistress and how he wants Tan to transfer school. But he still kept Tan's secret to himself despite dropping hints to Rachel. If his interest in Eun-Sang was to hurt Tan then why didn't he just out him and her just for good measure.

It's really hard to pin this guy down. I really question his motivation to do what he does.

To me the logical explanation would be that he does want Tan's friendship and is trying to get his attention. But there is that scene of their past. Then again I wonder if maybe he regrets what he said in anger (he does seems to have so much anger because of his father) and is trying to reconcile with Tan. But he doesn't seem to be making any effort to reconcile. Or is it the case of wanting reconciliation but doesn't know how to without damaging his pride?

Or he really is just a mean, vindictive and sadistic bully. That he enjoys watching people squirm while he hold their secrets over them, tormenting them as he like.

I really don't know if he's going to redeem himself or be a smart and evil adversary to Tan and Eun-Sang

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Maybe he's trying to get their attention. ES - because he likes her.

Kim Tan - because he wants their friendship back. Apart from Myung Soo, he doesn't have any friends, I don't think.

I miss the bromance with Young Do and Myung Soo! Bring it back!!

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I havent watched the 7th episode yet and honestly I am not too fond of this show. The show is not bad yet, and I will probably watch it to the end simply because it is pleasing to the eye. But I am surprised noone has mentioned yet in any of the discussions how this show is similar to Gossip Girl. I wouldnt say it is exact and thank god for that. But particularly Young Do's character reminds me so much of Chuck Bass. I hated Chuck too but maybe that is what makes it so much better when they finally change and redeem themselves - Chuck never redeemed himself totally but he elevated himself out of his pettiness because he falls in love. I dont know if there are any hardcore Gossip Girl fans out there but I find the storylines a lot similar but much nicer than Gossip Girl.

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I thought that too, maybe not many GG viewers here but there are a LOT of similarities. It's like the writer loved GG so she decided to shake everything up and hope no one would notice, very funny.:) Doesn't bother me though.

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Me three. He's just oozing Chuck Bass, isn't he? I keep expecting to see flamboyant pants on Woo Bin, or an artfully mismatched pocket square.

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Well, wasn't it promoted in the first place as a korean Gossip Girl?
To be honest, that's one of the reasons why I'd never started watching it without Lee Min Ho, cause I just hate Gossip Girl.

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I wonder if his problem with Tan goes back to his deep-seated hatred of his father and all of his girlfriends. We know from the previous dog collar scene how much he despises them, so when he found out Tan was the son of a woman like that, he just lashed out. Also, it might have hurt him that Tan kept that a secret for so long. When you think you know everything about the person closest to you, it hurts to find that they kept something that big to themselves.

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I'm not so sure on why ES intrigues him. Possibly seeing her with her part time job made him feel connected to her somehow with his own schedule ; work at the lowest rank in the hotel where he was scolded by his father for letting the staffs know who he was and sparring with dad. I'm sure there are other things he had to do other than what's been shown.
That and that somehow he finds her(lead female) intriguing like in so many dramas.

In the previous episode, it was shown how YD's father had many mistresses while his mother was still alive. His disgust with mistresses was very apparent.
I believe knowing that KT is a mistress's son then after seeing how KT acted like he owns the place made him feel the same kind of aversion towards KT.

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So do I, the dude is the manifestation of the type of person I hate. I am shocked that he is allowed to get away with this level of bullying, the teachers cannot be that inept. Honestly, I rage everytime I see him picking on that guy who's transferring, how in the hell has another student not said enough is enough and intervened?

And the assault lawsuit, dafuq was that? I don't know how it is in South Korea, but if you tried that in Scotland you would get a well deserved ass whooping. I cheered when Tan punched that slimy prick, he should have gotten a few more in.

If it's the intention of the writer to turn this into one of those love triangle stories then they are doing a crappy job, the 2nd lead has to at least have one redeemable quality, Young-Do has none, at all.

I hope next time Tan breaks Young-do's nose. In fact, he should just give him a heavy ass whooping and place him in hospital so that he can get written out of the show, since it would actually be better without him.

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Thank god I'm not the only one!
Thing is, let's be honest: There are so many assholish jerkish main leads out there who we (or at least I) like. But seriously, I can see absolutely nothing to like about him. The only scenes in which he doesn't grate on my nerves so much are the ones with his father (whom I hate even more), probably because he doesn't have the upper hand there.

I wish he would just take Rachel and go on a loooong extended holiday in the USA or whereever with her... Preferably for the next 12 episodes (which btw in my opinion are at least 4 too many...)

I was wondering whether I'd like Young-do more if I had some prior Kim Woo-bin love, but since this is the first show I see him in...

On the other hand, I also think that Won is a total jerk to his little brother (and I don't really get why he's acting that way... Sure, he's hurt and everything, but aren't we being a little immature here?), but I still totally love him.

All in all I have to say that I seem to like the drama a little bit less with each episode... *sigh*

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I love Young-Do.

I know everyone is going on about how he's just some bully, etc. but to be honest he seems like one of the most interesting characters in this drama.

I just love how yeah, he's a bad guy but he's not just bad (and i don't mean oh poor him and his troubled past) but he's a bad guy and at first glance he seems to enjoy it so his words and actions don't match but that just makes him more intriguing and the more i seem to learn about him the more interesting he gets.

This is actually my first drama with KIM WOO BIN and I have to say I'm loving it. Defo. gonna watch more of his stuff after this!

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the pacing of this drama is so damn slow maybe that's why i think this drama is boring... oh and Lee Min Ho's outfit is hurting my eyes... anyway thanks for the recap..

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Tell me about it. What is the ratings for this drama anyway? Almost all of the characters get on my nerves. It's so yawn worthy. And I don't say that much.
I love all the actors individually - all have great talent and all, but I feel like it is wasting and waning here under all the bullying, glaring, wailing and moaning.
I also feel like sometimes the actors are acting as a job and not an actual character in it, or is that just me? lol

parts I did like - am I a great masochist watching how mean young do is and can not waiting for him to mature?
oh shit that is all I like.
and the ost is worst than almost paradise. I think I am in love with the almost paradise soundtrack right now

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the ost is the only thing i really like about this drama...but i will continue to watch the eye candy...

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OMG! I feel for you! The OST was horrible - kept reminding me of Almost Paradise. Usually I just mute or skip the whole part cause of the song!

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i liked the songs at first but it seems.. overplayed or something. idk. i mentioned to my friend that i liked the songs after episode 2 or 3, but now i cringe a little when that "love is feeling" song comes on lol.

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I agree. We're almost halfway and theres no progress at all. In fact, I feel like this drama is a setback to the actors and actresses. Like someone mentioned, it's just watching them act out the characters instead of immersing themselves into the role and is believable.

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No, the drama is boring. Nothing happens. Just around in circles with the same thing over and over again. We see people saying things, but don't know the reason for why they do anything.

I am also tired of Park Shin Hye's crying and woe is me lament.

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THIS!

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Thanks for the recap...

I'm enjoying Heirs and my favorite part is the main romance :-)

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I've watched this since episode one and it is now episode 7. But, I still don't know what this drama is about. Am I the only one? I hope not!There really isn't a concrete plot but just a bunch of subplots mingled together. I'm honestly just watching this for it's "prettiness" with no focus.

This is the writer's weakest drama, thus far.

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me too! not sure but I think I might drop it for now and watch it when they finish the whole thing, or watch it to fill my spare time, I'm just not interested anymore! even GG was interesting than this!

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Thanks for the recap javabeans!

I was enjoying this episode until that last scene.

Seriously, what kind of effed-up confession was that? Pardon my language. Like me back or you and your mom will be homeless? Really, Tan? Real romantic of you.

Ugh. He better redeem himself in the beginning of tomorrow's episode or I'm through with him.

Also, I agree with you javabeans, Young-do is just awful. There's nothing about him that makes me want to see him redeemed, or see a reconciliation/bromance with Tan. He needs to get his ass handed to him (by someone other than his father, and for the right reasons).

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Does anyone know the instrumental songs played during seemingly all of the Rachel scenes? 1) with her and Young Do in the locker room, 2) in the car with her mom, 3) at the hotel with Young Do and Eun Sang. There's also one that played while Tan was trying to reach/find Eun Sang. The music was so well picked out this week! Thanks in advance!

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Will forever love Lee Bona's character.

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lee bo na is probably the only character that makes sense!

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I admit I wasn't even a fan of her casting or acting in the beginning, but she is the only one that seems to actually bring some life to her acting. Compare her to the Robot Rachel character for example or even our lead female.

Rachel is meant to be a villian, but either she can't act or someone is directing her to be stilted.

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I think she is awesome! My fav character from the whole show :)

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Bo Na is the best! I love how she is willing to stand up to everybody--Young-do, Rachel, her own boyfriend. It's nice to have a 3rd female character who's not the heroine, the evil romantic rival, or the nice best friend.

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She's so easy to watch because what we see is what we get. No complications whatsoever.

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She makes me laugh, which is needed. Also I like how she stands up for herself and refuses to squeal on Eun Sang. She seems to know who she is and what she wants. Initially she annoyed me but now I really like her.

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The uniform part was really sweet. It seems that Eun Sang was just happy that mom bought it for her more than it was about the uniform. I always like the Mom-Eun Sang parts.

Seriously, Tan is such a. Sweet guy, who wouldn't fall for him.
But Young Do, man. With Young Do's character, I am definitely not destined to second ship in drama.

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Young Do was really rocking that sweater. I'm actually liking Wood Bin more for playing the ass so well. This drama is a very easy watch and I can't pinpoint the exact reason but I love it although there's no real issue per se. It reminds me of a slice of life Manga which is a genre I love.

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i agree, this drama is so comfortable to watch. I mean, sometimes other drama tends to be overly dramatic and focus too much on the plot that it somehow forgot the romantic side of the story. But this one, for me all relationships are of essence. With so many characters, I don't feel that they are burden at all. I like all of them.

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Agreed. It's a breezy ride if you just enjoy and don't analyze everything.

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Very accurate and succinct assessment. There are a few themes the show explores, such as the "dream" thematic - but other than that, you have to enjoy it for what it is. Over-analysis spoils the experience.

Sometimes I think as a drama viewer, people have to learn to adjust their expectations to the drama they're watching. You can't judge everything by the same metric. I just finished watching "Breaking Bad" in a binge marathon (well, it was over the course of two months or so, but you know what I mean). I loved it, and I really like Heirs, but I would never even try to compare the two. It's like - well, for lack of a better comparison at the moment, a gourmet meal versus a fast-food meal. Putting aside absolute values like calorie counts and healthiness of ingredients :), both are meals, but beyond that, not much comparison. But that doesn't meant you can't enjoy both at different times, or that one is awful because it's so different from the other.

To be honest, I'm puzzled by the many people who seem to really hate this drama, the characters, the plotting (or lack thereof), etc. but keep commenting (and presumably watching) week after week. I'm not saying everyone has to love the same things, and certainly, critical discussions involve pointing out negative aspects as well. But why watch a drama you dislike so much? To me, TV watching is a short but relaxing interlude in my life. Yes, we can get more out of the experience by discussion and analysis (hence, this board), but if you really dislike the show that much, you'd be probably be happier just not watching it. You're not married to a show.

P.S. This is a lecture I had to give myself over the years, ending in my dumping Glee, House, and several other shows I used to watch religiously :).

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To be honest, I’m puzzled by the many people who seem to really hate this drama, the characters, the plotting (or lack thereof), etc. but keep commenting (and presumably watching) week after week.

Maybe it's because they keep on wanting it to be the drama they dreamt of, but it turned out to be a different one. They keep on watching, waiting for their desired scenes and moments to be fulfilled, but everything is not up to their taste. And because they feel wronged, they find flaws instead of little gems.

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even if people don't watch it, they can read recaps and episode summaries then have an opinion about it.

for those people watching it, they could have different reasons why they do it - not necessarily because they like this drama. they could be a fan of a certain actor/actress, the scriptwriter's previous works, high school/teen dramas, romance genre in general, etc.

also, people discussing this drama (negative aspects and all) don't do it because they 'hate' the drama - that is a very narrow minded point of view. at the end of the day, anyone is free to do whatever they want... if you like it, you can say it. and if you don't like it, you can also say it. or not. people here are commenting their opinions, not directly bashing out of hatred or being unreasonable or whatever.

most kdrama watchers seem to live in a collective bubble that is the soompi thread. like in heirs thread if you're going to say something bad about a drama or an actor/actress (not an idol one) or plot or scriptwriter: you're opinion is automatically wrong, or you are ruining the 'fun' atmosphere, or you're a hater. *rolls eyes*

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@drama addict -Either you didn't read all of my post, or you misunderstood it. Obviously we can't like everything, and there's nothing wrong with discussing the parts you don't like. Nowhere did I say that anyone who disliked the show was a "hater;" that was your projection. I was referring to the posters who have come out and actually said they hate this show, it's completely boring, the actors are miscast, the characters don't make sense. People who literally do not enjoy one thing about the show.

And while of course people can post what they want, I still maintain that it makes no logical sense to spend several hours of your life each week watching and discussing a TV show that brings no enjoyment to you whatsoever. And there are plenty of people who have made it sound like that is the case. I never said not to do it, but I certainly stand by my statement that it seems like a waste of time to me. But hey, it's their time to waste, not mine.

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I agree with you, I really don't see the logic behind either reading the recaps, watching the show, or commenting on it if they didn't like anything about it. It's the 7th ep guys if you don't like anything about it till now I really, really doubt things are gonna get better from here on out.

Then again everyone has the right to their own opinions, I just don't see the logic behind wasting time on something that you have no interest in what-so-ever.

On the other hand, I like the show. I won't say I love it because there could be improvements, but it's an easy watch. And I find no faults in the acting or the set-up (maybe b.c I don't know much about Korean society oO lol)

Thanks for the recaps!!!! :D

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@Faye: As someone who loves to analyze dramas, I'm still enjoying Heirs! :) It's definitely a quiet, more adult drama (even with the high school setting) -- focused more on character development than plot mechanics. But there's a strong story being told thus far. Well able to stand up to analysis if that's your thing. (Which, it's definitely mine. ;))

@drama addict: Some of the negative opinions in the recaps are engaging in discussion. But there is also, unfortunately, some good old fashioned trolling going on.

If a comment is written about why this drama sucks and has sucked since forever and it's posted as a reply to a very early comment saying how much they enjoy the show and the post has nothing to do with the post it's replying to… it's a classic troll post.

It's too bad, because it unfairly paints all of the following negative comments in a similar light and, in my opinion, strangles rather than encourages discussion.

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@Faye, regarding your Heirs Hate puzzlement. I too have noticed a trend with Heirs threads that started when the drama was first announced and still continues, and it kind of disturbs me. And that is saying a lot because I am a nitpicker. As you said, completely natural to discuss positives and negative aspects of a drama episode, and to me, completely natural even to have an element that continues to bug someone throughout the run-we all have out pet peeves. But this is different. I've noticed the repeat and repeat again negativity, and not only that, comments from these same people to other posters (that are actually discussing the episode plots and have positive comments) that crit the other poster for their likes, and again, something is different, it's not the normal stuff of having difference of opinion. Like you said, it's been puzzling,if you hate a drama, why watch, and if you are having a love/hate relationship with a drama, you talk about the love too, right? Thus, I have come to conclusion that there is deliberate negative posting. And I think it is spreading to other threads.

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I agree. I think people want some dramatic plot/storyline and this isn't that show.

It's a simple love story involving some rich uppity kids.

But I LOVE it. It's the first show I've seen where I don't find any of the supporting characters and their storylines boring.

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If this drama had been written by someone else, maybe a newbie writer, I could shrug it off as just a fluffy teen romance and let it go. But this was written by Kim Eun Sook, who wrote City Hall, my favorite kdrama, and AGD which infuriated me, and Secret Garden, with all of it's interesting themes and characters - this is a veteran writer, and it is natural to expect big things from her - much bigger than this. To use someone else's analogy, it's like a chef who always produces interesting, fabulous gourmet meals - and then one time you go to their restaurant and you get a soggy veggie burger.

So that's why I keep coming back, even though this show keeps disappointing - I keep waiting for that Kim Eun Sook complexity and passion and conflict to come out.

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Writers can fail sometime you know. Hong sisters wrote:

The Greatest Love (MBC, 2011)
My Girlfriend is a Nine-Tailed Fox (SBS, 2010)
You're Beautiful (SBS, 2009)
Hong Gil Dong (KBS2, 2008)
Couple of Fantasy (MBC, 2006)
My Girl (SBS, 2005)
Delightful Girl Choon Hyang (KBS2, 2005)

(cr to wiki d addicts)

These are basically very popular dramas, most rated well or were number one during their run.

Then they wrote the epic fail BIG.

Then they wrote Master's Sun.

They redeemed themselves. Maybe KES is just experimenting or trying something new. It means she's willing to improve and try things out.

If it's any consolation, at least The Heirs is not like BIG. Ratings wise and story wise.

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I second you :) most of ppl want Heirs to infuse more drama bcs the drama itself seems bland and nothing at its peak, but I think, thats actually what we are facing in real life (high schoolers POV). when we were still in high school, what actually big drama or big purpose we got? We only facing everyday problem and let it slide, and come again another ones, we dont really clean up to the botttom our problem, right? like how? kneel down to Tan ask him to marry you for love? or in face tell Eunsang Rachel jealous of her? All it just problem which is happening and sliding.

I think I should be able to loveeeee Heirs, (bcs I do love, really love AGD,which has same sense) but, I cant, and I still talking about you, Park Shin Hye.

no offense to her fans, PSH just act out of the script, when I watched her on laptop, I know she just an actress and after CUT, she is back into her normal actress life, which is, bad thing for me. She isn't Eunsang. ugh.

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Maybe she can have a method-acting training. Or better yet, have a drama with Kim Myung-Min who is the god of method acting.

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lol, yeah, and she better not move to Anthony production house,

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it is episode 7 already - the main leads are boring, while the rest of the characters exist simply for the main leads. there are no character exposition, consistency or growth. which is such a shame because other characters seem much more interesting - yoon chan young, lee bo na, yoo rachel, choi young do, kim won, jun hyun joom lee hyo shin, and jo myung so. such a wasted of a great cast.

when the scriptwriter said she had lee min ho in mind for this series, she was not lying. lee min ho is the only character that makes actual sense. but he can not quite pull it off, he was a better actor in his previous dramas.

and how can people ship park shin hye's character with any of the two lead guys? she looks scared out of her wits all the time - supposedly romantic scenes included!

lee bo na should end up with yoon chan young. but since cha eun sang actually looks comfortable with yoon chan young compared to the other guys, better change the end couples: lee bo na with kim tan, choi young do with yoo rachel, and cha eun sang with yoon chan young.

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I would be scared out of my mind in that world too... and to think, that world is what she wanted.

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"lee min ho is the only character that makes actual sense." - not meant that kim tan character makes actual sense. just that kim tan character is the star of the drama - most of the other characters exists because of kim tan and most of the other characters revolves around kim tan.

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"lee bo na should end up with yoon chan young. but since cha eun sang actually looks comfortable with yoon chan young compared to the other guys, better change the end couples: lee bo na with kim tan, choi young do with yoo rachel, and cha eun sang with yoon chan young."

I totally agree with you, that'd certainly spice up this plot.

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Young Do is a big jerk for turning on his best friend who tells him own his secret in order to comfort him. Someone cares about you enough to comfort you by exposing his own biggest weakness, and you turn around to insult him for it? And cut him off thereafter? That to me is even more disgusting than bullying!

Tho bullying sb simply becos his father is an employee and becos he is meek is plenty disgusting in itself!

It is of course to Kim WB's credit that the char comes off cuter than he has any right to be, given his behavior!

At the end of the ep, when KT says to CES,
"Leave 'my' house tomorrow, or if you can't , then like me, if possible, for real, like I like you."
It bothers me much, becos it sounds like he is threatening her to like him, or else leave his house.
To sb who has no place to go, it must sound v threatening. It has to be the most threatening 'confession' for her.

I feel so sorry for CES. How is she to survive between 2 Top Dogs, between the Chairman's maneuvers and his mistress's petty demands? Between YS's threat to out her poverty any min. and KT's threat for her to move her?
I know KT doesn't want her to move; what he really wants is for her to like him back, but the latter isn't really an option for her, is it? At least it isn't an option for her to show it. His family would bear down on her so hard and so fast.
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I absolutely love this show xD I enjoy the main couple a lot but I can't stand Young-do either.... I've seen arrogant alpha males but he just takes it to a whole other level. I'm just really glad he's the second lead and not the main. Although, the acting is spectacular but because the acting's so great, it makes me dislike Young-do even more.... Haha.

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I'm sure this is really going to propel Minhyuk and Krystal into favourites simply because their characters are the only decent fun ones in the whole cast. Everything about this drama makes it seem like it should be good but it isn't. Sigh. The acting is superb though.

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Chan Young and Bo Na are cute together but they also have their own relationship problem
one major prob that smart Chan Young didn't realized at all
Chan Young cares and worry so much of Eun Sang
the way he treats Eun Sang so well actually hurts Bo Na
Bo Na see Eun Sang as a threat to her relationship with Chan Young due to this fact
whenever Eun Sang in probs, Chan Young went running to her
e.g during the scenes of Young Do-Eun Sang-Bo Na where Chan Young went to help gather Eun Sang's stuffs instead of Bo Na's and Bo Na got pissed off and told him that 'she hates him the most'

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I love the tandem of Mom and Madam Han! They're like the not-so-bestfriend best friends!

Was that the reason why Young-do and Tan fought? Or there's more to it than just that? Please do tell me there's more to it. I still can't find a way to justify how Young-do acts the way he does, but I do find his exchanges with Eun-sang entertaining at times.

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Spot on! 'Not-so-best friends, best friends.'

I believe it's not 'just' because he's illegitimate, but also because Tan saw him get hurt over whatever they saw together. ( I presume it was his dad in bed with another woman.). Young Do can't stand showing any kind of weakness to anyone. Since they were both bullies I figure he attacked (verbally) Tan first before Tan could get him. Messed up thinking, still not right. Kim Woo Bin may be stealing every scene for me, but I just want to smack his character. ( I know violence begets violence, but hugging a porcupine hurts.)

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Well.... this episode was better than.6 for one. I want Young Do to actually change... it's about time before the realisation sets in that only Tan should get the girl. Secret Garden was fantastic at 7 and..... this still isn't. I'm giving 2 more weeks of chance before I rule it as a pretty drama or a good drama. Thanks for the recap :)

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I really loved this ep. and I am in love with KT now! I will start with my questions:

1—ES said, in ep. 5 that the people sending her to Empire Group are “transforming my snake tail into a dragon’s tail.” What did she mean there (she was talking to CY when she said that)?

2—Why did KT show the CCTV to ES, before going into the cab? Was it bad that they were there? I didn’t get it.

3—Why didn’t Bo Na want the other girl to be hired as a PD? Did she know her? Was she one of the girls in the first few ep. who was talking to HS?

4—What does it say on the back of KT’s jacket, in HS or MS’s room? (black and white jacket).

5—When YD asked ES why there were so many knights around her? A blogger translated as many “black knights.” Is that what they said in Korean? Do they say “black knight or white knight” in Korean? Because in English, they say “white knight” in English, right?

6—Who thinks the teacher might have been an actual teacher from the actual school (who spoke English)?

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Hi Ivoire, answer to #6, not a teacher at the school. Even one of our teachers could have done a better job acting though.

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Heh, the English teacher was terrible, but not as terrible as the topic of the English class. I am not impressed with the curriculum at this high school.

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#2 -- I assume that if Tan's mom saw the maid's daughter talking back to her son, she'd hit the roof. And if it's on tape, she might see it.

#3 -- Yeah, I think that was it. One of Hyo-shin's fan-girls from earlier that Bo-na doesn't like.

#5 -- I can confirm that in English it's White Knight (the whole black is evil, white is good). I've heard Black Knight used before in Korean dramas, so I assume there's either a color reversal or something else. Would love to find out for sure! :)

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Read up black knight Korean drama. It's specific to Korea and usually refers to a drinking session.

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1 - Rather than "transforming my snake tail into a dragon's tail," the line was more along the lines of "on my own merit) I can't even become the tail of (something as lowly as) a snake, but I'm being told to be a dragon's tail... (as in, being given an opportunity)" the point is that going to Jeguk High will open up more doors for her because it's a prestigious name.

3 - Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's one of the girls who, in a previous episode, brought Hyo-sung food (and got in another small fight with Bo-na in the episode where Chan-young was explaining the different social groups to Eun-sang)

4 - "A Boy is not A Boy," which I'm not going to even pretend I understand. Maybe it's a quote from something...?

5 - The Korean was "black knight" (흑기사). It's used much in the same way as "knight in shining armor" is used in English. That is, it's used to describe someone who comes in and helps someone else. These days, both black knight and white knight (백기사) are used in Korean but usage of "white knight" is more of a recent thing, and I believe black knight is a little more commonly used. I did a little research to see where the term came from in the first place and some point to Sir Walter Scott's Ivanhoe, in which a black knight helps the titular character in a tournament (this is from one of those question-and-answer sites, though, so don't take it as authoritative or anything:).

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hey ivorie, for (2) i think the he showed her the cctv camera to tell her how he found out about her leaving time
and also for (1) when she says "transforming my snake tail into a dragon’s tail" i find that very confusing too! i may not know much about korean dramas (i'm new to this, you see) but both these animals mentioned are dangerous, dragon being the greater danger, what is she trying to say, is is that it will make her a more dangerous person then before?. but it could also just mean that the school will make her better.

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Softy on Cadence is posting a series on Heirs, called Reading between the Lines (RBTL) on Heirs. She doesn't call it a recap, cos it is much better.
Instead of recapping, she explores the meaning of the char's behavior, their actions and non-actions. It is a fun and in-depth read on the series.
Tho it is a labor of love, it isn't blind adoration. She questions where questions should be raised. The link to her blog is provided under LINKY at the lower right corner.

Enjoy.

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Javabeans: President Obama follows you on twitter?! SAY WHAAAAT
SO COOL

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Um, that's AMAZING. Like, WHOA. How long have you been followed on social media by the (twitter-verified account!) PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA?!
Holy cow, this is just so AWESOME!

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What?!! Javabeans, please confirm!! :-)

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Um, as someone who works for the federal government, I have to tell you it's not actually President Obama who uses his Twitter account. He has a policy team that uses it as a PR tool.

Still, not to detract from the follow! That is very cool.

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Must've meant that the person who uses his Twitter account is a kdrama lover too. That person should just come out of the closet and join us :P

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That would be fun! Come to think of it, I believe the First Lady's healthy eating campaign did highlight kimchi a while back.

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Love love love love :) the show is a little predictable and but makes for interesting entertainment anyway :P

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mind-boggling also how javabeans can consider the storyline phasing in heirs and say it is okay, but then criticize the storyline phasing in answer me 1994.

not watching answer me 1994, but reading recaps of it - you learn more about the characters (not just the main leads!). each characters get enough screen time that they feel like real actual people.

compared that to heirs, most of the characters are just caricatures - they get moments of screen time that are either of two things: 1 - filler stuff that could be cut since unimportant to the story, or 2 - scenes that do not make sense but important to move the story forward.

young do hates kim tan for being illegitimate, his anger is so much more than kim won's - why? it's not like young do is the one that will split his inheritance with kim tan. besides kim tan is still officially registered as a son of his family regardless of circumstances.

kim won hates kim tan - why? no other back story. he just does. even if kim tan does not seem interested in the inheritance.

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yoo rachel has her reasons for her actions - because of her pride, and she is the official fiancee of kim tan. but most scenes of her don't give her character much depth. people hates this character, and yet are conflicted with choi yong do - why?

cha eun sang is boring, and a doormat. the typical kdrama candy heroine. unlikable too. previews for kissing skins are way awkward - so that throws a great romance out of the windows too.

kim tan is a bully in middle school, then he stopped and just ignores it now - why? no particular reason - he went to america when him and young do fought, and he's a supposedly good guy now. but is that really a compelling reason for a huge character change though? and why is he even considered a good guy? kim tan is only nice to eun sang because he likes her, he is an asshat to most - genuinely good guys are nice to most people, just extra nice to the ones they like. and kim tan is a cheater too because he is chasing eun sang when he has an official fiancee - do not excuse that kim tan do not love rachel so it does not count... rich people in this drama supposedly do not marry for love.

episode 7 already - but there are more questions about their character exposition, consistency, and growth. if they can air long moments of the main leads just staring at each other and nothing happening significantly in their relationship - better use that time for the other characters, or a backstory at least.

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Having watched both Answer me 1994 and early episodes of Heirs, i think i understand where javabeans is coming from. Both dramas have their pacing flaws, but they are vastly different.

In Answer me 1994, each scene is essential in building up a picture of each character. Their main problem is that each scene is dragged on for a couple of minutes longer than it should be. It's just like someone telling a series of jokes...it's hilarious for the 1st couple of minutes, but if that person continued with the same type of joke for the next hr, the jokes just don't seem as funny anymore. The editing just needs to be slightly snappier and all will be well. That said, I do love each "slice of life" scene and will definitely continue watching it.

As for Heirs, I guess if people try to read alot into each scene and character motivation, the pacing suits them fine? I do agree with you that there are waaaaay too many "staring scenes" and not enough growth between the characters. My guess is that the writer has 20 hour-plus long episodes to fill and has to spread out all the 'big reveals' equally throughout the series. I felt that way while watching her previous drama AGD coz it honestly felt like a 12-episode drama stretched into a 20-episode drama.

My main bugbear with Heirs is that I just don't care for any of the characters (except Chanyoung). It's not that the acting is terrible, it's just that the writer makes it so difficult for me to like them enough to want to watch their character growth. *sigh* Looks like I'll be watching only the Chanyoung cuts for the time being....

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I really liked how the flashback played out. So nobody else knows about Kim Tan's background? Interesting... I just assumed that the inner clique knew about it but it seems like it's only the family + Young Do. This is probably Kim Tan's only method of this "royal" family and eventually I can see him exposing the truth to gain his brother's trust and Eun Sang's love.

Also, I really like Young Do's reaction to Tan's confession. While it hurts to see Young Do so cruel when Tan was trying to console him, I think his reaction is really realistic. At one point, he said: "So if the woman in my father's arms and my father have a child, it would be you." All his life, he has been so hurt by his father's numerous affairs with no way to express that anger/hurt that that it is realistic/reasonable for him to take it all out on Tan who is technically born from an affair.

Gah. I knew it was coming but it still hurts my heart.

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I find Young Do's reaction to Kim Tan just proves how much of an a** Young Do really is. I've never met a person who's bad through and through, but to me, YD is it. He's just rotten to the core.

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i had assumed more of that inner clique knew about tan's family stuff than just young-do.. but i guess not. but since everyone knows that the two had a falling out (and bo-na said in an earlier episode that she was on young-do's "side") i also kind of wonder what the others THINK happened between them.

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young-do was pretty hateful in this episode. the best thing the show could do is show us some real glimmers of his backstory soon. NOT that it would excuse any of his behavior.

at the same time, i'm not ready to write him off just yet. his character is still only in high school, so i'm willing to be a bit more patient. a lot of people are assholes in high school and through college and even after it. but if you're still behaving like that once you reach your mid twenties, there's just not as much leeway there.

i sort of enjoy that he's being written as an unapologetic asshole, and the way i read him, he's got heaps of hidden inner pain to explain (but not justify) his behavior. i think kim woo-bin is doing a stunning job of straddling this fine balance. so far, with the combination of the writing and the acting, i can still continue to justify the character. but this is television, which means at some point, he's got to experience growth, or maybe he won't.

i found krystal crazy annoying initially, having hated her casting, but i've really warmed up to her and her character. chan-young brings out the good in her, influences her to keep her any potential bitchiness in check and softens her. as a result, she's mostly harmlessly saucy and actually kind of cute. it's a good character for krystal.

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Yeah...I enjoyed this a little bit at first. Then Mi-rae's Choice began airing and it reminded me of how satisfying a drama can be, with each episode bringing a little more to the table and making me love the characters even more. This show...just keeps leaving me feeling well...honestly I just don't know. I do still really like Tan so I will keep up with it for him, but Its definitely not a drama I feel excited for each week.

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OMG thanks for the recap!! i just finished watching the episode too! So great timing!
So the thing I found the most frustrating today: Youngdo seriously what a douche. His best friend is just trying to console him and he turns it into something to hang over his head? what a friggin' freak. Even Woobin love can't make me like Youngdo even just a little. He makes me so angry!!! GRRRRR!!!
But how great is it that Tan has finally confessed. of course it's going to throw her off. but she's got to have known that he liked her right? because seriously Tan isn't the most subtle of admirers... Hee her neckline was tempting him too much so of course what does he do? pull her tie and make her care cover it. lol so grade school but I luff him.
And Bona is just a little empty headed sweetie... lol I would love to live in her head just a little to see all the princess castles and unicorns and mini little imaginary Chan Youngs duking it out against Tan to win her favour... kekekekeke. But I hope Chanyoung doesn't turn out to have unrequited feelings for Eun Sang... that's just not the way man... seriously let girls have guy friends without feelings like romantic love involved. seriously. let it be Agape.

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* hair not care? what the heck heeheeheehee

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looool your description of what must be in bona's head... so perfect.

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Am I weird that I find that whole scene of Tan pulling the rubber band off Eun Sang's hair sexy? I can't wait for tonight's ep8!!

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No, typical teenage boy there. It was cute what he did, but the camara showed he was looking (I thought) at her neck, which is a sensual spot.

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I think it is a matter of taste which writers and shows we like. What we like and dislike come from deep inside us, becos it involves our beliefs, principles about what ppl and life ought to be.
There is no stronger proof for this than saying, for example, that Mirae's Choice shows how satisfying a drama can be and, by extension, how boring this is. I feel exactly the opposite. Ajumma MR having learnt nothing in her 30 years over young MR besides the need to catch a chaebol husband is a pathetic waste of life experience. We can go on but this isn't the place.

DBs and followers seriously disliked Secret Garden. It looks like the same dislike is emerging for Heirs. I believe it is a matter of taste of what kinds of shows we find appealing. Softy on Cadence is offering a completely different perspective.

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Yeah. To think how adorable and clumsy Kim Woo Bin in running man. Here, he's just so evil.

by the way, this is a fast l*** c*******n by Kdrama standard. Love it..

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ohmygawwwwwdddd!!

why is LMH so HOT in this show? His acting is not too bad too!!
this show is really driving me bananas with anticipation.

There are so many characters in this show and I feel like the 20 episode are not enough to explore their stories.. just because i want a lot of Kim Tan and Eun Sang! i love everthing about LMH in this show, his clothes and hair even his lipsticks lol!

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I totally agree with Marlene. All the actors are nailing their
characters with excellence. The casting was superb. This is not just a teenage drama. There is so much subtle nuances in every episode, it leaves you with so much anticipation for the next episode. Sadly, it shows the world we live in. A world run by power, money and status.
Most want everything "instant" or "fast". We need to enjoy the moments or journey of life that unfolds. Walk through the tough times and let those times strengthen
and mature our character.

This story reminds me of a deep well or beautiful spring.
With all the problems and corruption, I still sense a beautiful refreshing hope rising up.

Love,Love,Love It....

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I REALLY felt bad for joon young this ep. Like the amount of suffering he goes through. I wonder if they'll explore the suicide topic....
And young do pisses me off too, like NO ONE stands up to him. WTF.

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You know I think I just have to be glad that this drama isn't a hot mess !
It's enjoyable, and something to look forward to every week and that's cuz of the hype and lee min ho, defintely not for the drama in itself.
If there was anyone else playing Kim tan, I definitely wouldn't even have tuned in !

Anyway since it was always about pretty from months of promotion, I think we should be satisfied with it !

That said , today's episode is much better than the last week. As for me, am going in with zero hope every week, pointedly going out of my way to avoid heirs photos, teasers and lot to just keep myself waiting for it every week!

Frankly, there is nothing else ! ?

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Nothing really happens in this episode. I have some favorite characters and some of their banters are amusing, but the plot doesn't move forward. All of the character dynamics are just the same as last week's episodes, or even episodes before them. I thought the writer can get a lot of story packed in fast pace mode since she makes a lot of character, but now I feel the plot is dragged by a snail.

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A lot of little things did happen though. A little insight why Hyung hates Tan, why Young Do hates Tan, Mom's reason for losing her voice, and Tan finally confessing formally.

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-Hyung told Tan why he hates him, but it will not change their relationship and their character. Hyung will still hate Tan. Tan will still like hyung.
-Now we know why why Youngdo hates Tan. But no new character knows this. Again, no relationship changing, no character growing.
-Viewer knows why Mom losing her voice, but what was the point of it? It didn't make a riffle to the plot.
-Tan confessing formally at the end of the episode. I can't make sure if this scene will have any impact, but by watching previous 'cliffhanger' in this drama, I bet ES will reject him with same old reason: Tan has fiance and their world is too different and then they will go back like usual.

Basically most of the scenes happened in this drama were just filler without impact. The plot didn't move and the characters didn't develop.

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Well, I can't help but agree about YD. Seriously, how are we supposed to feel anything towards him but disgust? He's Way Way Way (100x) past The "just a hurt guy" stop. He enjoys too much The pain He causes for me to believe that in The Next 12 episodes he's going to turn into butter. At this point, I think that I only could believe His redemption if He gave away all His money to charity and left to join a convent. And even so I wouldn't be sure.
Even MS and Rachel seemed disgusted by The scene by The lockers.
You know, I still don't understand why ES is hiding Who she is. Everybody knows she hás no money, and those Who don't know it already are too dumb and irrelevant to matter anyway.
I have to say that I was not sold on KT so far, but this episode changed that. His smiles and actions were cute but specially they were assertive. He told His hyung how He felt, He stood up to YD, He told ES how He felt. For once He showed that he's got blood and not water in His veins. I'm only sorry that he's not got a better heroine to Be paired with.
I really don't know what this drama expects of me. I'm not hate watching it, but I'm not loving it either. I feel disapointed, but I'm not sure if it's because I'm unable to let it go or with The story for failing to make me fall in Love with it.

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I want to see more of each character, I fill like there's so many characters that each of them does not have enough screen time...

The drama is definitely a cute watch with lots of eye candies, and as long as Tan reconciles with Won and Young-do, I'll be happy~

Really want to know what makes Young-do who he is now...

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I actually enjoy this drama. Yes, its plot is simple and somewhat cliche unlike the other plots but there's something in this drama that makes me want to watch it more.

In my opinion, the writer uses many symbolism that's why we should really read between the lines and analyze the scenes and some dialogues, otherwise we wouldn't really enjoy it.

I'm still curious about the theme. We all know its about dreams. It was also the lesson taught by their English teacher on this episode but I know that there's so much more behind it. Anyway, I just want them to tone down the spoilers. It ruins the element of surprise!

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Regarding the theme, I wonder if one theme is going to be shifting from from one meaning of dream to another. In CA, the theme was passive dreams; something that happens to you, a fleeting event that you forget the next morning. Eun Sang tells Tan she will think of her time in CA as a dream. Tan in America seems to be in a perpetual dream state, living in his big, empty house, bumming around with his surfer buddies, in too much of a dreamlike torpor to care for much of anything.

Now, in Korea, the characters are waking up. This may be manifesting itself as conflict, but that's necessary sometimes to make things happen. Here, "dream" takes on a new meaning, a more active one -a plan for the future, as the lesson plan on the chalkboard said. KES actually did something very clever, IMO, by paralleling the change in dream definition with a change in the characters. As the characters start becoming more active, not just accepting things as they are but taking action, the definition of a "dream" is being defined differently.

It's interesting to note how Eun Sang was the catalyst for Tan's change. From the moment he met her in CA, things started happening, and he started taking action as well. He went from being a dreamer to someone who was *pursuing* dreams. Hopefully he can fulfill the same role for Eun Sang as well.

Sorry for the long answer, but the dream element of the show is very interesting symbolically to me.

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Don't be sorry. Your answer was well put and definitely how in line with my interpretation. :)

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That was very introspective Faye. I thought the same about the dreams as well. Most of the students here don't have dreams because their roles in society have been paved already by their parents.

I've also thought about all the characters, and I realized that most of the high school students in Empire High (Jeguk High) are a mirror of their parents and most of them expect to inherit their parents company/shares/stocks and jobs.

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Very true about the kids mirroring their parents. I didn't mention the adult plotlines in my first assessment to this episode, but I'm enjoying that as well. I feel as if the show is taking us on a journey where we get to find out if the kids will make better decisions than/break the patterns set by their parents.

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It's actually a very introspective drama. And I think what the drama is all about has already been said by the Chairman in episode 5:

"The more difficult environment a child is in, the more that child has to have a dream."

"Don't rashly decide what level you should be in. While someone goes out to reach far ahead, and reach for higher places, are you going to try and fit yourself to a pre-determined level, and... spend your youth in a small and dark maid's room?"

"Protecting your dream, is the role of the adult who has more than the child."

And in this episode: the Chairman asked Won if he really knows what he's losing. Won, like these kids, have everything handed down to him. He doesn't have a dream.

Maybe, in this drama, the Chairman is the kids' Fairy Godfather. And it seems like he's the only one who knows what he wants: two sons who get along and who will continue his empire together.

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Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the themes and symbolism you have observed so far. It will definitely be interesting to see the writer Kim Eun-Sook explore the different stages and definitions of "dream" in this 20 episode drama.

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I've come to the conclusion that this drama is going to be a character study of sorts, rather than a plot-driven show. While I wouldn't want all my dramas like that, I can accept it for one. Once I realized not much is going to happen in "Heirs," I was able to enjoy the episode.

I may have to revise my former fascination with Young-Do. Don't get me wrong -Kim Woo Bin still has mad charisma, and I think he plays well off of both Park Shin Hye and Lee Min Ho. But his character was a sociopath in this episode. There were many, many examples of this, but for me the clincher was the flashback to his youthful fight with Kim Tan. Here Tan is reaching out to him and sharing something so personal -and he's doing it to make Young-Do feel better, natch- and Young-Do just eviscerated him. So cold. They really need to start giving him some more nuance to flesh him out as a character, rather than a caricature.

The episode really underscored Eun Sang's vulnerability, and showed how right she was to try and stay away from this world. First, Young-Do dumps her knapsack and blackmails her into spending time with him -making her responsible for his victim's welfare. Then she has to depend on Bo-Na's good graces to keep her secret. Then her mother's employer turns her into a spy, while making sure to rub her inferior status in her face (hypocrite much, Ms. Saturi?).

And on top of all that, Kim Tan, the self-proclaimed protector and suitor, ramps up the pressure. I get that he has all the feels and can't properly express them. But his telling her to return his feelings or leave her new school and home really rubbed me the wrong way. Unlike you, she doesn't have the luxury of just changing home and school on a whim, rich boy. It struck a surprisingly discordant note for someone who's shown a lot of sensitivity to their class differences thus far. Poor Eun-Sang is being pressured on all sides by these people who have so much power over her. Hopefully we get to see her handling these pressures and growing as a person.

He may have his faults, and his lousy taste in sweaters (baby pink, really, wardrobe people?), but Kim Tan is still stealing my heart. This poor guy really is a good person at heart, it seems, and he's just surrounded by emotional vampires. I hope Eun-Sang can return his feelings and fight by his side for a relationship.

The character of Won is just . . .urgh. Am I supposed to be feeling sorry for him? Why treat his brother so badly? The poor kid is no threat to his inheritance or place in the family. I just can't with this guy anymore.

My favorite parts: Eun Sang lighting up with happiness at the sight of the uniform (hope Oma didn't have to do anything that will come back to haunt her later to get it); the head-resting taxi ride; the ponytail - pulling. What can I say, I'm a sucker for the cute.

Ivoire, I need you to post so I can get your read on this episode :).

Thanks for the recap!

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Faye, I have my notes (that I need to type), and I am currently on the phone, with someone I have not talked to in a long time. We are also discussing Heirs and other Kdramas :-). I will write my thoughts when I hang up. I love that you were/are looking for me though, :-).

Thank you so much for your vote of confidence! :-). Please come back later :-)...

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but for this drama to be a 'character study of sorts' - the characters (exposition, consistency, depth) at the very least should make sense. even changes in characters should have plausible reasons - cause and effect.

complaining about 'nothing is happening' in this drama does not necessarily equate to the drama not having a plot. it could also mean that in the drama, the characters are illogical and/or not making any sense.

for example, eun sang hated it when her mom implied (her sister did not say this outright) that she and her mom could be considered as her sister's flaws. and yet she is embarrassed of her mom's disability. does not compute.

another is when eun sang was making a fuss about the food her mom brought from the main house. people excuse this as eun sang having pride. but is this a good instance of having pride? the food was not given to them out of pity. the perfectly good food was going to be thrown away because of the mistress' theatrics, and her mom thinks it such a waste that she brought them home. food is a blessing, food is precious (think of all the people dying from malnutrition) AND should not be wasted. but eun sang is insulted because of her pride - what?! and even of eun sang did not want to eat it still because of her pride (which does not make sense at all), she could at least give it to the orphanage or something so that the food would not go to waste.

the little things that don't make sense about the characters pile up that it end up being huge that it can not be ignored anymore. and if the drama did not have a plot at all, the least it could do is to have engaging characters that makes sense (you could not like/hate a character but still know/understand/accept where that character is coming from) - and drama is not even doing that.

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@eunjung - I guess this is where the whole "mileage varies" trope comes into play. I do think the characters make a lot of sense. To me, for the most part the show's done a very good job of showing how the characters' economic and life circumstances, family dramas, and unique personality quirks drive their characters and actions. You may not like those characters, but for them to work, they only have to make sense in the universe the drama has created. To me, they do.

Your first example was Eun-Sang being offended at her mother's description of them as flaws, despite her own conflicted feelings about her mother's disability. Haven't you ever felt something negative about yourself or someone close to you, but really bristled when someone else verbalizes what you're thinking :)? Maybe you're just a much better person than me, but I'll admit I have once or twice in the past. It falls under the category of, "It's one thing for *me* to say these things, but that person is an outsider! They don't have the right!" Maybe it's not logical, but it's a very emotionally realistic action. And more to the point, very much in line with the prickly parts of Eun Sang we've been introduced to. So that shows realistic characterization.

Moreover, when someone else has the same negative thoughts you've been secretly harboring, they confirm your secret, sneaking negative opinion of yourself. That's enough to make anyone upset - certainly a proud teenage girl.

Your second example was Eun-Sang rejecting the food. Again, while that may not seem to make sense to us as reasonable adults -why waste good, free food?- it makes perfect sense for the *character* of Eun-Sang. Of course Eun-Sang, who despises the Jeguk group, loathes how subservient her mother has to be to the mistress of the house, and chafes under the limitations someone like her is placed under as long as Jeguk group and its ilk have all the power, is going to reject their food. When you're a teenager, especially, you're focused a lot more on your feelings than on cold, hard reality. Eun-Sang does not just accept her role of charity dependent - she fights against it. It would have made zero sense for her as a character to be happy about what she saw as a handout.

I think the point I'm trying to make is that the characters' choices and values don't have to align with yours, but they can still be fleshed-out, interesting characters. I do think we see character consistency, so I'll stick with my assessment of this as a character study.

The only person I really can't get on board with is Won, because I don't think we've been given adequate justification for his total hatred toward and rejection of Tan. Tan is not a threat to him in any way, and is actively seeking him out as a family member. I think the show needs to step up there and have him verbalize what his deal is, for lack of a better description.

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I usually just lurk, but I really wanted to tell you that you are spot-on in regards to Eun-Sang's relationship with and conflicting emotions towards her mother. As someone who grew up with a disabled mother, I can attest to the relative accuracy of these characters' interactions with one another. As a teenager I did catch myself resenting my mother, but I would never let anyone outside of my immediate family criticize her. (Hearing one man compare my mother to a recreational drug addict was nearly enough to make me physically violent, despite the fact that I had often complained to my best friend that there was hardly ever a moment when she wasn't on some narcotic.)

My biggest complaint about the drama would be that I don't think it spends enough time on the mother-daughter relationship. There's a lot of emotions there, especially considering Eun-Sang's age. Resentment, guilt, protectiveness, fear, compassion, embarrassment, helplessness, grief, sympathy, frustration... Their relationship could provide so much insight into both characters. There's the occasional moment that highlights their poverty or allows Eun-Sang to vocalize her conflicting emotions towards her mother, but I feel like there's the potential for so much more.

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@kittywhiskers -I don't know if you'll read this, but if you do, thank you for sharing your thoughts. They will add another dimension to the way I view Eun-Sang-Oma's relationship (if only we'd get to see more of it!).

Your mom must be proud to have you as a daughter :).

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the one that voiced that out is eun sang's mother, not an outsider. why is it okay for eun sang to think like that, but unacceptable for her mother? just because this is a high school drama does not excuse eun sang's behavior as being a teenager. her more than anyone has been exposed to the real world.

about the food, even if eun sang does not think about the world outside of herself her actions is still illogical. it's food. she works to buy food to live. she can reject the 'charity' of food when it means she can eat, she can live, she can save money. and it's not even charity - the food was not given to them out of pity, her mom made the choice to bring it home.

and 'for a girl that fights being charity dependent,' eun sang sure seems complacent being the receiver of protection of everyone. and eun sang being 'a rebellious teenager' sure seems passive. having depth in character does not equate to being illogical, even if one is a teenager.

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Yes, Eun-Sang is embarrassed by her mother. But more importantly, she's ashamed that she's embarrassed, which is why she doesn't want anyone else to say what she's thinking. This would apply especially to her mother, as it would only make Eun-Sang feel even more guilty. I think that the writer was actually presented with a rather difficult task trying to portray this, but she did an admirable job trying. Each time Eun-Sang lets her negative emotions slip in front of her mom, it's in a single sentence. It's almost as if she's trying to stop herself from doing any more damage, but she can't help herself. And, no amount of being exposed to the "real world" will rid a teenager of raging hormones. Poor kids are still kids. They may act on their impulses differently, but they still have them. Again, this is speaking from experience. Having to work does not prevent one from feeling ashamed of one’s situation. I still hung my head when we walked into second-hand stores and still hated the thought of accepting food from anyone else, even though I knew how hard it was to keep food on the table. The case of the mother bringing food home is even worse than charity, in my opinion. She was instructed to throw it in the garbage; instead, she brought it home. In Eun-Sang’s mind, that’s equating the two. She feels that her mother has given up and accepted their lot in life, which is far more unacceptable than an outsider’s pity. Her mother lost the war. And, remember that she has only voiced her disdain for Jeguk in places where she feels safe, such as on social media and in her own home. (I’ll never understand why people think that they can say whatever they want on social media, though. One day, it’s sure to come back to haunt you.) She’s showing some characteristics of a rebellious teenager, but that is tempered by the constant fear that comes with being the dependent of a disabled person.

Eun-Sang’s conflict is internal, for the most part. She’s not fighting primarily against what the world thinks of her. She’s fighting against what she thinks of herself and her family. She is trying desperately not to give in to back-breaking, soul-crushing poverty. Thus, it’s important that she firmly decides that she and her mother are worth something. She is tired of thinking of herself and her mother as garbage, but she’s still wavering. That is her fight. She wants to buck the system (so to speak), but still feels too helpless to do so. This is a condition that I’ve found to be quite common and have experienced myself on occasion. And, it’s what makes for a good underdog story. The character discovering and establishing her value is what makes the underdog story worthwhile.

I also think that you’re overlooking the fear that she would be feeling when she allows others to stand up for her at school. Remember, regaining her self-worth is an ongoing battle occurring within her, so her pride is not likely to cause her to take a stand. Rather, she simply feels threatened in unfamiliar territory. Most people are familiar with “fight or flight,” but in reality there are other responses on the acute stress response spectrum. She seems rather inclined to tonic immobility, which only furthers the impression that she still feels quite helpless. She saw how Young-Do treated another charity case and is terrified that the same thing will happen to her. When Young-Do is on the verge of outing her and relegating her to the position that will soon to be vacated by his current victim, she freezes. This is a perfectly natural and realistic response.

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I don't think we actually disagree with each other, I think we're just addressing two different points :). I originally stated this was a character-driven drama. You said the characters didn't make sense, citing the examples we've discussed. And I agree with you that Eun-Sang's actions may not be objectively logical, and may not be commendable. BUT - they are consistent with how she's been presented to us as a *character* in the show; her fictional construct has remained consistent. So I still maintain the show's characterization internal to the makes sense.

In terms of Eun Sang being "complacent" about receiving everyone's protection, I don't see that at all. She seems to spend most of her time trying to dodge Tan, Young-Do, etc., and telling them to leave her alone. What more can she do - physically beat them up?

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When my brother was just 17 years old, he won't eat anything that he doesn't like even if he's hungry and even if the food goes to the waste bin. Do you really think all teenagers are so matured that they'll think about how their actions affect the millions of hungry people in the world?

They're teenagers. They're still kids acting as adults. They don't make sense most of the time. They can be rebellious and think that everything is against them. They can be happy now and be angry later on. They often have issues you know.

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