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Heirs: Episode 8

This is kind of a bipolar episode. Or, maybe it’s just an episode that makes me bipolar, which I’m fully willing to believe is the more accurate conclusion. In any case, things are good for a while when both boys start to step up with some moments of honesty and Eun-sang asserts herself in little ways as the budding romance takes on a new dynamic. But then the love triangle becomes a literal tug-of-war, only with a human girl instead of a rope, and then Show and I have words.

 
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EPISODE 8 RECAP

Tan storms over to Eun-sang at work to confess that he likes her, and will be getting personally involved in all her business at school from now on. What, like you weren’t before?

She brushes it off like he’s got nothing better to do with his time, but he wants an answer from her, right now. She looks up at him, conflicted… and she’s saved by the bell when he gets a call from Dad.

He ignores it, and then a second later, Eun-sang gets a call from his mother. He barks at her not to answer, but she says while he might have the choice to ignore his parents’ calls, she doesn’t. “That’s the difference between you and me, and I think that’s my answer.”

He yanks her phone away and tells his mother to call back later because they’re having an important conversation, and hangs up. Pfft. And then he orders Eun-sang to like him back, which I guess is supposed to be swoony, but mostly sounds like he’s being a petulant child.

She’s finally had enough and starts to cry as she tells him to give back her phone, saying that it’s expensive to her, and she needs it to text with Mom and hear from her part-time employers.

And then suddenly mid-fight, Tan asks, “If I want to hold you right now, am I crazy?” He pulls her close for a hug.

Tan: “Don’t cry. And don’t say that you dislike me. Say that you’ll think about it. I’m asking you.” Well that’s certainly an improvement from the last version. Good job. Eun-sang lets herself cry on his shoulder for just a moment.

Once they get home, Madam Han greets Tan with a barrage of questions, and he gives the excuse that he went to go see Eun-sang to request that she keep her mouth shut about him hitting someone at school today. Madam Han’s ridiculous first question: “Is he richer than us?”

Tan is the one to point out that her question should be whom and not how much he’s worth, and trudges off to see the chairman for his impending lecture. Madam Han tries to pry the information out of Eun-sang, who keeps her mouth shut per their cover story. Madam Han adds the petty gripe that Eun-sang shouldn’t be seen with Tan outside of this house, because What would people think? Blerg.

Chairman Dad already knows about the incident and asks Tan why he hit Young-do at school. Tan just points out the absurdity of his sudden interest in his life when he’s done far worse, but back then Dad was always too busy to care.

Dad says that he has to be busy for the company to go ’round, and Tan notes sardonically that due to Dad’s astounding work ethic, he and hyung will be bequeathed more of Dad’s inheritance than his interest. Snap.

Dad’s final warning is to keep from complicating his mother’s job at school, to which Tan says pointedly that his mother is Dad’s mistress. My, my, did someone have his Sassy Wheaties today?

He comes out to find Eun-sang on her way out from speaking to his mother, and she asks with a long sigh for him to leave her alone in this house. He follows her anyway like a yappy puppy, insisting on apologizing for his mother or doing something to cheer her up.

Eun-sang doesn’t want to be caught daring to speak to the young master in the house, and asks him to leave again, but he points out that it’s his house. She decides she’ll go then, and he says pretty much anywhere you go in his house, it’s his house.

And then he adds, “Do you know how glad I am that you’re in my house?” It doesn’t work to get her to stay, and he sighs as she heads to her room. He plops down on his bed and stares at a book of poems called Almost As If We’re Living Together.

Eun-sang decides to set her alarm for even earlier the next morning, determined to avoid going to school together. She notices a post online (lol, he still hasn’t logged out as her, lying liar) of the book cover in his hand, with “living” changed to “sleeping.” It makes her smile.

She gets to school at the crack of dawn, but to her utter surprise, Tan is sitting on a bench waiting for her to arrive. He says he meant what he said yesterday about meddling in her business from now on, and pretends not to have heard the part where she told him not to do that. He’s satisfied for now to have seen her arrive, and pats her on the head before walking away.

Manager Yoon comes by Won’s hotel room in the morning to say that he has a breakfast invitation from Young-do’s dad, and though Won bristles that they’re hardly friends, Manager Yoon thinks it might be a good idea to take him up on the offer.

Won finds out at the office that there are complications with their latest hotel construction because of Zeus and offshore investor strings being pulled behind their backs, and decides to play hard-to-get with breakfast for now.

Madam Han struggles to get out of bed with a wine hangover, and Mom starts to write a snappy comeback (for her to stop drinking so damn much), only to realize mid-sentence that she maybe ought to rethink it.

Madam Han catches her trying to scratch out what she wrote and chases her around the room, leading to a bizarre slow-motion feather pillow fight, because why not. I’d swear these two moms couldn’t live without each other, not that they’d admit it.

Tan waits for Eun-sang in the hall outside the broadcast club, having heard that she’s meeting Hyo-shin to find out whether or not she made the cut. He offers to lobby for her since he’s friends with Hyo-shin. When she asks what kind of lobbying he’d do, he opens his jacket and suggests coyly that he can offer up his body. Ha.

Bo-na steps out from the room after having done her lunch broadcast, and Chan-young walks up with a drink, posing as a fan. Tan rolls his eyes at them, but Eun-sang sees Chan-young as her escape.

Tan sticks his arm out to block her path thinking he’s all smooth, but she just ducks right under it and runs off with Chan-young, leaving both Bo-na and Tan fuming impotently.

Bo-na turns her attention to Tan and asks if he’s camped out here because he still has feelings for her, and Tan laughs, playing into her delusion with a characteristic, “Do I?”

She sighs that she knew it, and declares that she’s very happy with Chan-young. He reminds her that she used to like him very much, and she chafes at the “very,” muttering that he obviously has good taste and all, but she’s taken.

He’s too amused now to turn back, and declares that he still likes her. (How is anyone going to take you seriously when you do this for fun?) Bo-na cries with utter sincerity that he needs to forget her and move on. Hahahahahaha.

Eun-sang tells Chan-young that she doesn’t know how her nouveau riche story went this far, but plans to out herself. He surprises her with the advice to just keep it under wraps for as long as possible and just graduate quietly, and adds that the bullying victim Joon-young is transferring today.

Eun-sang watches Joon-young’s sad march toward the school gates, regretting that she didn’t even get to say thank you. Bo-na’s friends walks up to introduce themselves to Eun-sang, and note Joon-young’s departure with the wish that he take all the charity cases with him.

Eun-sang ignores another call from Don’t Pick Up, which Young-do sees plainly because he’s breathing down her neck as he calls. Can we put a bell around your neck or something? Sheesh.

He gets faux-offended and pouty at his number being saved as Don’t Pick Up, and demands to see how she saved Tan’s name in her phone. She changes his to Young-do to get him off her back for now, and he tells her that her name is up on the announcement board.

She runs up worried that it’s for something bad, but finds the official notice for her acceptance into the broadcasting club. But the more curious thing is underneath: Eun-sang finds the note she left for Tan back in California. Wow he actually found that thing?

She asks him about it, and though he plays dumb, we see in flashback that he found it after all, peeking out under the massive pile-up of flyers. He complains that she wouldn’t return a simple request for a phone call, but bothered to write that note, and she asks why he wanted her to call.

He sighs that it took her this long to ask. He wanted to know where she was and when she was leaving, and “If you can’t not go. Don’t go. Stay with me. I miss you.” He asks if she’s still thinking about it—his confession, her answer—and she deflects and heads (in the wrong direction, ha) to class.

Watching the whole time is Rachel and a bemused Hyo-shin, who finds all this entertaining and playfully offers to hit Tan for her. She asks about the herbal supplements he’s taking, and he makes yet another joke about what studying for college entrance exams does to make you age rapidly.

Tan sees her and asks for a chat, and straight-up tells Rachel that he likes Eun-sang. She scoffs that he actually said the words, wondering if he wants permission, or for her to disappear.

She reminds him that unless he’s totally lost his mind, there’s no way he ends up happily ever after with a girl like Eun-sang, and he doesn’t disagree, but he’s also decided not to think anymore, and just do whatever he wants and deal with the consequences later.

Tan says he has enough mountains to climb without adding Rachel as one, and asks if they can’t go back. “We were friends once.”

Rachel grits her teeth and tells him he’s making the wrong choice, admitting in the end: “And if you thought I wouldn’t be hurt, you were wrong about that too.”

Manager Yoon checks in on Chairman Dad for another of his regular hospital check-ups, and continually eyes the mysterious envelope from the mystery person sitting on his nightstand. The chairman asks Manager Yoon about why he originally recommended Eun-sang’s mother as a housekeeper, and he recounts having met Eun-sang’s parents back when they used to run a pojangmacha and he was a regular.

He says that Eun-sang’s father was in the hospital for a long time before he passed away, and Mom is still steadily repaying that hospital debt. He asks now why the chairman sent Eun-sang to Jeguk High, thinking it an act of kindness.

Chairman Dad: “So that she hears it from at least a hundred mouths—the reason why she can’t be close to Tan.” Gah, I knew you were going to end up being nasty. Manager Yoon takes that barb to heart, so much so that when he runs into Rachel’s mom outside the high school, he tells her he was just reminded of why they broke up. He purposely answers a call from Hyun-joo just to raise her hackles.

Hyun-joo is busy downing an instant ramyun before her tutoring session, and Hyo-shin sees her on the street and tells her he’ll be late just to give her more time. That’s cute. At their lesson, he nags her not to eat badly and leans in so close he’s nearly kissing her, just to say he can smell her ramyun breath.

I love that he follows it up with: “You need to check my homework before we advance, right?” But the word for “advance” is the same for level of physical intimacy as it is for lesson plans. Everything he says to her is double-edged that way, but she’s found a way to pretend she doesn’t notice.

Young-do uses a judo match to request that the family portrait be cancelled (if he wins, of course), so Dad agrees and then proceeds to cheat his way to victory by choking his son to the mat, and then telling him that winning’s all that matters. Gee, what a sparkling example of humanity. I wonder why Young-do’s such an ass.

Though tellingly, the first thing he does after that blow to his ego is to show up unannounced at Eun-sang’s café. He catches her ignoring yet another of his calls and tells her he came, “because I was lonely.”

He says he dropped the lawsuit against Joon-young because he promised her he would, and then Tan shows up, which puts both boys on edge. Tan is annoyed enough that Young-do found Eun-sang here, but he’s surprised when Young-do names ALL of her part-time jobs, clearly having put all the pieces together on her real income bracket.

Young-do wonders how Tan knows so much about Eun-sang, and they go through a whole volley of witty retorts. Tan: “I’m always one step ahead of you.” Young-do: “Then you should watch your back.”

Tan laughs at the idea of using Eun-sang to get back at him, which just makes Young-do ask: “Are you two dating?” Tan: “Do we look good together? We look good together.” When he says it like a statement instead of a question, it gets under Young-do’s skin.

Tan warns him outright not to mess with Eun-sang, which has got to be a bad idea. He’s basically like, Challenge accepted, and tells Tan to take care of his knees. And just to drive daddy’s lesson home: “On my mat, there are no rules.”

Suddenly the ajusshi at the counter calls out to them to pick up their drinks, and says that Eun-sang already left and bought their smoothies. HA. Okay, that got a laugh out of me. This is what happens when you two are so busy waving your unmentionables around. The girl gets bored and goes home.

They come out with their twin smoothies for cold comfort, and Tan nearly busts a gut to see that Young-do got his bike towed for illegal tuning. He says this is what the law is for, not fake lawsuits. (Oh was Joon-young’s thing faked? I don’t even know if that’s better or worse.)

Won waits and waits for Hyun-joo to come home, and gets all possessive when he sees her arriving in someone else’s car. He storms up to peek inside the car, only to lock eyes with Manager Yoon, who’s dropping her off after consulting her about tutoring Chan-young.

They’re both flustered to recognize each other, and Hyun-joo worries that this means he’ll say something to Chairman Dad about them. Won is beyond caring at this point and tells her he’s moved out for good, so won’t she let him stay with her? From across the alley, someone snaps a photo of them.

Tan lingers in the kitchen, hoping to catch Eun-sang, and finally goes all the way to her door. He fidgets there for a while and still has his hand raised in the air to knock when she comes out.

At first Eun-sang jokes that his mother is coming, but then she really does come into the kitchen looking for Mom, so he pulls her into the dark pantry to hide. They’re pressed up against the shelf and once Madam Han passes, they feel each other’s presence keenly.

Tan doesn’t step away and leans in closer… and closer to kiss her… but sees that she’s practically wincing in anticipation and backs off. What the? What a tease.

They relocate to the wine cellar (she does her homework here to keep from waking Mom), and Tan goes into another jealous interrogation of why Young-do was there and what they talked about.

She says it was weird, but Young-do said he was lonely, and he really did seem lonely. Tan scoffs and asks how Young-do knows about every chicken, pizza, and juice place she works at, which she doesn’t know either. She doesn’t care though since she has no reason to be entangled with him.

But Tan sighs to realize it first: “You’re already entangled. I don’t think he’s messing with you for me to see anymore. He’s doing this because he wants to see you.”

At the same time, Young-do is asking himself the very same question, thinking about Eun-sang and then wondering why he keeps thinking about her.

He shows up to the family photo shoot the next day all dressed up, and Rachel berates herself for trusting him to break up the event. But just as the family gathers, one of Dad’s ex-girlfriends crashes the event.

She greets Young-do as if she hasn’t seen him since junior high, and he reminds her that he saw her in their elevator just last week. Ha. Okay, he’s terrible, but Dad is worse. Young-do makes a point of telling Dad that there are no rules and the only thing people will remember is that he won today.

Rachel has this awesome smirk on her face the whole time, and gives him credit for keeping up his end of the bargain. She asks what it is he wants, and he leans in close before telling her he wants Eun-sang’s customs form.

She wonders if there’s something really going on between them, and tells him that Tan confessed he likes Eun-sang. She half-jokingly wonders if he can’t do anything about that, and Young-do says she might not be able to give him what he wants in exchange. She tells him to succeed first before they talk about payment.

Tan gets the jump on Eun-sang at school, and she asks where he popped out from. Tan, hand to face: “A fairytale?” Pffft. She gets huffy about him following her here, but he pouts that she doesn’t let him talk to her at home (the phrase is “press words to you”).

She snaps, “Words aren’t the only thing you pressed!” She realizes her slip, but it’s too late. He grins like a fool, “Are we just openly talking about that now?” Hee. He complains that she still hasn’t bought him dinner, and she promises that she will once she gets her broadcasting scholarship.

She makes him wait five minutes before coming to lunch, but that gives Young-do the opportunity to grab her plate and escort her to his table, where he forces her to sit in Joon-young’s old seat. Yikes.

He says he just wants to eat with her, but he doesn’t make it a choice. Bo-na looks around for Chan-young or Tan, wondering why they aren’t around for a rescue. Or here’s a thought—why can’t she rescue herself?

She’s understandably afraid though, and asks Young-do what it means that she’s sitting here. He says it’s nothing special, since he just finds this seat comfortable. She tells him that she has nothing to with Tan if that’s his intent, but he says he’s got nothing to do with Tan either.

Tan walks in to find Young-do eating and Eun-sang quaking in fear across the table, unable to touch her food. He asks Young-do what he’s doing, and orders Eun-sang to get up, shouting at the top of his lungs, “I TOLD YOU TO GET UP!” Geeeezus, and you’re better how?

She finally gets up, at which Young-do darts up first to get in Tan’s face about his lack of manners. Tan says he made his date with her first and starts to lead her away by the wrist, when Young-do trips her to the ground. Dude, seriously?

Tan grabs his collar and tempers flare, and Eun-sang rushes to stop them, insisting she’s the one who fell. Young-do says (to either of them or both) his being nice lately must’ve lured them into a false sense of security. Well I wouldn’t call it security, but I did for one half-minute think you might have a feeling or two. Clearly I was insane.

Tan growls that he’s going to kill him, and Young-do claims his victory for making him kneel—just you know, making Eun-sang do it in his place. Eun-sang interrupts and pleads with Tan to take her out of here, so he finally lets go of Young-do’s shirt and leads her out.

Rachel watches all this and points out that he might’ve brought Eun-sang to her knees, but she left with her wrist in Tan’s hand. Young-do sighs that you have to give first before taking away, to make it really land. That’s… scary.

He adds a droll, “You trust oppa, right?” before snatching Eun-sang’s customs form out of her hand.

Outside, Eun-sang cries with her back to Tan, and he’s sweet about checking her for scrapes or bruises. But when Young-do calls her, he barks at her not to answer. She knows enough about Young-do now to know that avoiding his calls will make it worse, and picks up anyway.

Tan rails at her not to, and then rams her with a kiss to keep her from answering.

 
COMMENTS

AUGH, this show. Was that supposed to be romantic? Because I thought the pantry moment was sweet (and obvious, sure) but totally wasted as an opportunity for a kiss, only to have it be followed up with THAT, which was the opposite of romantic, and annoyingly bossy. So you’re not going to kiss her when there are fluttery feelings, but you will when you’re trying to assert your dominance over the other guy? I get that the other guy is terrible, but that’s not an excuse. I don’t know, but I’ve had it up to *here* with these boys barking orders and yanking girls around by the wrist. How about she sits anywhere she damn well pleases at lunch, and you two can dance all you want by the salad bar?

I get that this intertwining conflict is supposed to make it like Tan is her knight in shining armor, but mostly I find myself agreeing with Eun-sang when she asks Tan to leave her alone. At this point, her life would be qualitatively better without him. Seriously. That lunch debacle tipped the scales for me. No boy is worth that crap. And though it’s understandable that Eun-sang is scared about being bullied, I find it extra annoying that for some reason in this universe, boys have to rescue her, as if it’s inconceivable that she’d stand up for herself. What happened to the girl who bought the boys a round of smoothies and left them to stroke their own egos without her? Sometimes I feel like she gets convenient lobotomies depending on what dynamic the boys are supposed to have, which is truly madly deeply lame. Can’t my heroine have a spine AND a boyfriend? Why’s it always gotta be one or the other?

There were moments in this episode when I saw a glimmer of hope, and—dare I say—was actually happy with where we were going, because Tan had confessed (politely), said he’d wait for her response (like a gentleman), and even Young-do showed some vulnerability (like a human) and a possible kernel of a heart muscle (fine, maybe it was just acid reflux). It was going well. And then there was shouting, and ordering around, and tripping, and using girls as pawns, and then I just kind of snapped. If Tan’s arc is that he’s supposed to have started in the same place as Young-do but end up a better man, I NEED HIM TO GET THERE FASTER. Because right now, he’s the same, just less diabolical and more apathetic. And fine, a little nicer, but dude, not enough by a long shot.

The thing is, when we’re not being violent teenage terrorists, I’m not that mad, and I even find Young-do to be layered and interesting. But the violent teenage terrorist thing is kind of like taking that nice layered cake you just decorated with a vulnerable confession and smooshing it with your designer shoes and doing a leprechaun dance on top of it. It’s ruined. And now I want you two to take your war elsewhere, and leave the poor frightened girl with a lobotomy out of it.

 
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Thx for Quick recap.!!! :)

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Quick and Entertaining :). I don't watch the show but I love reading the recaps so thank you GF <3. Hope you are also watching Secret, it might cure that bipolar.

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The recap comments and posts are much better than the show. I am just happy that I am not recapping such a show.

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Agreed. The show doesn't provide classic lines from JB and GF. My favourite quote from today's recap (about Young-do): "I did for one half-minute think you might have a feeling or two. Clearly I was insane."

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I just spent the day on the set at Teajeon Christian International School watching them film. It took them almost an hour to complete 1 scene that will run for about 2 minutes. At least the actors are enjoying the shoot. At one point Kim Woo-bin laughed so hard he was on the floor in tears. They had to re-take that scene an extra few times because he couldn't calm down. Their lunch today was provided by a fan that flew in from Japan. It was awesome, I was able to join but sat at a different table. This is one of the best days of my life!!!

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@Rachelle - thank you for the set report! ( I actualy went 'awww' a little at the thought of Woobin laughing that hard, hopefully that means the scene was funny, ha)

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I have an open invitation to go watch the filming whenever it's scheduled. The show is having trouble completing all the scenes in the school they need each week in one day. They are trying to get permission to film during weekdays after school. That will be hard because there is always quite a few people at the school because of the dorm kids. I almost got recruited for the show. The actor they hired to play a foreign teacher did not make it on time so they asked if any of the TCIS teachers wanted the part. Unfortunately, I stepped away at that time and missed the chance. The teacher Ms. Kim got a photo with LMH as payment. They also recruited one of the secretary to play another teacher. She looked younger then some of the actors playing the students on the show. She just had to hand out fake test papers and post the test results on the bulletin board. I missed out on that because I didn't understand their Korean directions. Again, another photo with LMH as payment. LMH did not allow anyone else to take photos with him. KWB is much more friendly and easy going. They both took a lot of smoke breaks during the filming.

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Rachelle:

I don't know if you will read this but I am curious about your comment. You said Kim Woo Bin is more friendly and easy going. Did he allow fans to take pictures with him?

Is LMH aloof or unfriendly then? You seem to imply that LMH is stand offish but he always gives the image of caring for his fans so who is LMH really? Friendly or snobbish?

Please reply if you read this. Thanks.

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I wonder why LMH, of all the scripts he has been offered, chose this one.

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He probably thought Koreans would eat it up like they did BOF-clearly their tastes have been upgraded since then!

Btw I hate violence and I hate bullying even more-this drama really needs to move past that, we get it, next item pls?!

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While we are asking that. Someone needs to ask Choi Jin Hyuk and Kim Woo Bin the same question. These 2 with Lee Jong Suk were the breakout stars of 2013. LJS followed up with "I Can Hear Your Voice" which earned him more acclaim and cemented his "It" status. But, the other 2 got sucked into this crappy drama.

Why is CJH even in this drama, if he only gets 2 sulking scenes per episode. He could have followed up the buzz he earned from Gu Family Book, with a solid Second Lead role, instead he is playing a barely there, inexplicable character.

This drama infuriates. Why is Eun Sang always crying and Park Shin Hye must have a no passionate kiss clause in her contract or something. That kiss is one of the worst kisses, we have seen in a kdrama in a very long time. The shocked, stiff response, no kissing back, closed lips, what is this? 2007!

There are no likable characters, to help carry a boring plot, awful directing and poor execution (what is up with the constant blaring of Love is a Moment during emotional scenes that we can see coming from a mile away).

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To be fair, in 2007 there was Coffee Prince and those kisses *ahem* well, they sizzled.

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I second that!

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I third that...

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Yap, i'm agree. And yess, PSH not yet have passionate kiss till now, even her kissess with Yoon Si Yoon, but to be honest it just YSY whose kisses her with passionate

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Momma LMH is good kisser she should take advantage :)

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To be fair it was YEH who is the Queen of K-drama kiss scenes. She never fails to deliver. She was an exception to the rule for a while. Best part of Goong was the shock of a good kiss scene after seeing nothing but bad ones. She definitely knows how to kiss back.

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Yes, how the kissing scenes in Coffee Prince sizzled!!!: ) ^^ you could feel the chemistry between the actors and the kiss in front of the painted wall was so hot!!! and I can't forget the lovely scenes of Secret Garden!!! I remember a beautiful kiss at a Christmas party and before that there is of course the "foam kiss" when Hyun Bin kisses Ha Ji Won on her creamy lips! <3 <3 so cute!!! and the mood was so right!!!
And you've got beautiful sizzling scenes in "Reply 1997"! the actors really kiss even Eun Ji kind of kisses him back!!! and this drama is pretty recent...So I thought we'd moved past "tight lips kisses full of angst" !!!

I'm so angry at Heirs because there was a beautiful moment, it was romantic with a perfect mood for a kiss...but no!!! he steps back!!! What a waste...pfff
I feel like I'm watching the kissing scenes of Master's Sun again...And to be fair with Master's Sun, even if they kiss at the end of one episode, and even if it's not "hot", at least the mood was kind of right, romantic and all!!! here, the mood is so wrong!!! it's like there's a neon sign saying "not now, wait till the end of the episode to see the kiss happening"
I don't understand why the screen writers and producer think it's a turn-on when the hero kisses the girl while he's mad and overly possessive about her!!! heh?
I'm also disappointed with Eun Sang's character. I had hopes that she could stand on her own, that she had some kind of resolve...but apparently, we still have a "candy" heroine who can't fight back! I want Gil Ra Im back (Secret Garden)!!

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Pretty much summed up everything. Heirs is lame, why oh why did CJH even choose this craptastic show.Nothing happens ever, just some lame plotlines, with barely any plot. And don't even get me started on PSH, that girl ain't ever had a real kisisng scene, always wide-eyed like she saw a ghost.

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We see very limited expressions in PSH. She is either sad, crying, looking shock because one guy appears behind her, looking worried and frightened. She is suppose to be the hoerine of this drama. The heroine that will go against this social class conflicts. Survive and be happy.
But Eng Sang cannot delivery either. She is really better off in her normal school with her own peers and she does not have the courage to deal with the current environment. Kim Tan is right, either leave the school or find courage to like him and fight thos together. There is no point lying and be frightened each day just to survive. What a sad way to live life.

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That sums up pretty much what I think about PSH's kissing eh trying- at-it-but-failing-at-it-miserably and shamefully! Man this is an actress that is over 20 and still acts like she is some innocent 13-year-old girl who only knows how to play this fragile, wide-eyed frightened deer with these sad tear-filled eyes. OMG, that's why I stopped watching her dramas. Just can't bear her stereotypical look that she plays in every freaggin drama. And it always has this blank but sad look. Cant describe it. Just can't buy it. LHM-Stop kissing. Just buy you a wood stick. Would get a better response.

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I agree; there's a high possibility that there's a clause in her contract "no passionate kisses". I leave it at that. I will actually admire her if there is such clause in her contract.

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If there is such a clause I wish the PD would just pull the camera back, angle it on the male and leave the rest to our imagination. PSH's cringing, startled doe routine is as worn out as her crying one.

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What kind of acting company would put such a pointless and limiting clause in a contract? Stop making excuses lmao.

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Preach ladies.

After episode 1 (aka the great shaming of california, aka the engrish-pocalypse), I stopped watching an only read DB recaps. I keep up hope that things will eventually improve but.....man....it's bad. Why pick this script indeed LMH, CJH... why?

I continue to use my bedtime wishes to advocate for CITY HUNTER 2.

Most disturbing is why LMH, CJH and KWB chose a script that turns them into villains. Even LMH's "romantic" forcing himself into CES's path is creepy. That girl needs a whistle.

thanks again to javabeans and girlfriday for sticking with it (so we don't have to). there's a lollipop in heaven for you for this. AND thank goodness the fall is packed with other awesome dramas.

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OMG! I spit out my drink when I read this. I'm with you about this drama and the CH2. Great storyline and characters. It's too bad LMH allowed himself to be talked into doing this.

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Oh City Hunter!!! What a great show that was!!! and the screenwriting was so good with excellent cliffhangers which kept me on edge at the end of every episode!!! Well, Park Min Young wasn't very impressive as a bodyguard, when you see her hold a gun, you wonder why the heroine hasn't been shot before! lol but Lee Min Ho as City Hunter was amazing and so good-looking<3 really believable and impressive as City Hunter!!! the other characters were so interesting too...I love the relationships between City Hunter and his Mom and of course his "fathers"!! yeah, a very good story!
I'd love to see a City Hunter 2, and closer to the manga! ^^ maybe they could broadcast it on TvN!!! please, Lee Min Ho, you're too old to play -high school rich boy-. Kim Tan is an interesting character and I'm looking forward to seeing more of his relationship with his older brother- that's the reason why I continue watching this show- but you're too old for the part... and you've already played a similar character in Boys over Flowers and it was much better than this!!! I love Gu Jum Pyo!!

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Note: the kiss is forced, i.e. done without any sign of consent or acceptance, verbal or non-verbal, from PSH's character. For a forced kiss, I'd say 'shocked, stiff response, no kissing back, closed lips' is exactly the right response.

Not that I'm happy with the drama for making Tan as much of an ass as this.

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I want city hunter 2 there story good kissing , I like LMH but going back as a kid even if he act cute and he is ,but hard to believe . ES I want little of jan di in her pls be strong , don't get why CYD like she didn't do any thing wow .

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Ep 8 Steal don't know what KT did to be sent to the USA.
What happens between KT and CYD for all this hate

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I agree, why would she be feeling passionate in that situation? I don't agree with hating the show and thinking that the actors made bad decisions to be in it, the show has it's problems but I don't think it's that awful. I think that they should just give us a few less people to hate and more to cheer for.

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Oh give her a real, mutual kiss and she would have the same response. As seen in her past dramas.

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So true!. My Lord of the Forest has fallen! My LMH has regressed to thumb-sucking banality, after his outstanding performance as a loyal, true warrior in Faith. One punch doesn't do it after the excellent action in City Hunter and Faith. I knew it would be difficult to manage this one, as I hated BOF, and can't stand the bitchy rich characters and psycho student characters, but this is even worse than imagined. LMH looks like he's sleep-walking, the cherry-red lips are disconcerting. (WHO is doing the makeup??) I had some hopes for some creeping intelligence in the plot after they brought in a line of current affairs, mentioning the BRIC, but no. Back to adolescence... Can't we have a little intelligent commentary on current affairs? Political intrigue? Life after High School? Reality Intersects? OMG Get a new Agent, Minho!

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I love jb & gf weekly/daily recaps!!! I decided long time ago, before this show premiered that I won't watch it! No no no! Boy was I right!!! All these A-List(poor CHJ!) don't mean their can upgrade the plot/story of their drama! No no no!
So after tuning in in one two episodes recaps on dramabeans I think my prediction that this show will be a sucker proved right! Love it when I'm right!
And for the comment from llama: ".. Park Shin Hye must have a no passionate kiss clause in her contract or something. That kiss is one of the worst kisses, we have seen in a kdrama in a very long time. The shocked, stiff response, no kissing back, closed lips, what is this? 2007!"
I SOOOOO TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU!!!! Her adult self must be a mentally 13 year-old insecure girl trapped in a woman's body! She is a good actress but lacks in some love department romance scenes ...A WHOLE LOT! POOR LMH! He is probably doing a lot of work..Hopefully not overtime..^^ Oppa is only reserved for MYSELF! MUhahahaha

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I don't agree with you. Although the drama is mediocre, Kim Woo Bin is benefiting from it. He definitely stands out here among all the young actors despite a cliché character. I didn't know him very well before watching The Heirs and I noticed his onscreen charisma (the fierce look, the atttitude - good facial expressions and body language) quite quickly. This guy has got talent and is clearly overshadowing the lead actor.

As for Choi Jin Jyuk, he hasn't proved yet to be a good actor. His nice "anime looks" did wonders for him in Gu Family Book but Lee Seung Gi's acting was far superior when the two were facing each other. It was especially a shame in the beginning of episode 16 when father and son talked to each other for the first time. In The Heirs, CJH is stiff and dull as always, showing no sign of improvement. And since this haircut is horrible on him, there is not much to expect from him so he's got the (little) screen time he deserves.

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I think PSH's contract also included mono-expression that put everyone off. In addition to crap kiss only policy.

And i agree with you on the song. It's seriously getting on my nerves...

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Agreed. On the big waste of CJH in this drama.

I was so looking forward to see him in this drama but… all i've seen is sulking, sulking, more sulking and occasional awkward speaking. Then more sulking. What's the point…

And I also agree that KWB's character is too awful. Why would this do any good to his career if he just keeps playing the same tough kid/bully/bad boy high school student in every drama?? And this level of bullying in the drama, even though it was acting, really does NOT impress. At all.

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True....
but somehow i feel asthough.....if Jan-di from BOF had ended up with Kim Hyun Joo(sorry I dont remember the name)then this would hav been the story....but with obivious changes....its like....the writer was trying to take the story from that angle with added drama and more story plots?because....Kim Woo Bin(young-do)is obiviously Gu Jun Pyo without a bit of goodness shown

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I think you've got a point here; and by the way, a stronger Eung Sang would have looked too much like Jan Di.
Gun Jun Pyo was powerful, though controlled by his mother changed by his interaction with Jan Di, but in this drama, Kim Tan is weaker. It seems to me that Heirs is a kind of negative (as in photography) of Boys over Flowers.
About Eun Sang being alternatively strong and weak, I believe she gets weak in front Young Do because he's taking her on another battlefield which is the terrifying battlefield of love. I don't think her character is shake by a bully. I think it's shaken by what she sees behind the bully's mask... Just like she keeps talking about the phone when Kim Tam asks her for an acceptance of his feelings.

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I was thinking a long the same lines after the first few episodes. Now that we're a little further in, I think that still holds up, with a few minor adjustments to the characters.

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I swear to god, I know I seem to come here only to complain even though I watch the show. But seriously this is my rage drama.
The role in this drama makes LMH so totally different from City Hunter, Personal taste, BBF. In every single one of those dramas, he was equal parts epic, funny and handsome. In this he is the whiny boy who is equal parts cheesily (not in a good way) romantic, and petulant in exerting his male dominance.
It also seems like Eun-sang has no interest whatsover in Tan and he is basically in a different way than Young-do bullyig her into it.
PSH was even better than this in Heart strings where she was the girl who had a personality. Either that, or she hates Tan.
Why writer, why void each character as having no personality whatsover?

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Why I think each character is a caricature:
Rachel: mean girl who is in love with main guy
Young-do: hard exterior bully guy who falls in love with main girl
Kim Tan: Main guy (doesn't matter what he is, he is LMH)
Eun-sung: Main girl (doesn't matter what she is, she is poor, sad and guys are drawn to that)
Chan-young: nice, platonic friend

I don't remember the other characters names yet.
Bo na: Only surprisingly awesome character in the series.

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Want to add for Bo Na and Rachel: Wish they would add some variation to the way they deliver their lines. They sound like they are singing in the same key every single time. Or perhaps it's a case of being tone deaf?

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lol lol i was thinking the same thing. like the tone of their line delivery could seamlessly work for their past Highkick sitcom

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Eun Sung's Mum is..... awesome :D

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So true! I love madam Han and eun sung's mom's scenes!

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Yay Bo-na!!! She's awesome!!! She is the only one character that I like in the drama lol

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People who dislike this drama is so fun. I often find it odd and senseless that people still watch a drama they don't like. But after a while, after reading all the bad talks about Heirs and all, it's actually kinda funny. I imagine it as people who go to the movies, found out that it's lame, then go back watching it after having a fit.

It's like reading a book you thought you'll like then throwing it away angrily because it just doesn't make sense to you. After throwing a fit about it being so lame, you pick it up again and continue reading while cursing every page you're on.

I can't stop smiling. People who hate this drama is so fun. It's really cool to read your comments. Really dynamic.

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Actually, it is like eating a box of chocolates. You start eating and you get flavors that you hate. Some you swallow, others you spit out. But you keep eating the chocolates, hoping that along the way you get something good.

Honestly I just want to see if the writers can even come close to fixing this mess.

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Lol. If I can have a box of chocolate, I'd make sure that it is from a brand that makes good stuff. Eating something that'll just make me constipated is wasting money. Why waste time hoping that'll you'll get a good one when you're already thinking that you may not get any?

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Very nice, Forrest--I mean Sue--I'm totally with you. Once in a while we get a gold-foil wrapped hazelnut truffle, which make up for the plain caramel ones.

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Lol!!! exactly why I continue watching this!! to be fair, there are still one or two things that I really like about this show but many other things that infuriate me!! so it's really like eating a box of chocolates for me! I keep hoping I will get what I wished/ was looking forward to somewhere at the beginning! ...the themes , especially the rich families and their heirs- are interesting...

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I think it the hope for something better is what makes everyone watch it. They feel bad for the cast and they really hope the story will do a turnaround soon. But by now if it has not, there is less hope. Just like Moon's drama, we hoped it will improve but it just could not pick itself up from the fall.

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LOL I know you might think I'm weird for continuing to watch this drama. I think I am weird. It's probably because I love these actors in their previous roles. So I hate what is coming out of this drama because they have acted awesomely in the past. I'm watching the thing for the actors not for the storyline. I go for Mi Rae's Choice for a story line lol

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Well it's mostly because the main cast are well known, especially LMH.

Actually, I think it's more like reading a book you thought it was interesting, but when you read the chapter's it turns out to be disappointing, however you still turn the page hoping it'll get better because it's too soon to judge.

I don't understand why it bothers you so much if people dislike or criticize Heirs, it's their opinion just like your comment is your own opinion.

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Kinda u are a very optimistic observer and good for you because it should be like that.. but i can't stand those for so long..could be am lacking patience.. i find them ignorant and lack of depth in their senses... these are all personalities in a drama why not enjoy heirs drama it is so much fun to different type cast.. and this nega people are haters to the max to the actor/actresses and questioning why they accept such plot or offers... what a hell!... who are they by the way! oh my gosh... what a nonsense kind of people.

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Haha I'm one of those people. I am just watching because i need to know what happens next lol. Curiosity wins.

And I guess even though I know the drama won't get any better, I like some of the characters in the drama and I'm just gonna focus on those "minor" story lines, like Lee Bo-na, she's hilarious and she's one of the reasons why I can still stand the drama..

But the main characters… No hope. At all.

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I think the difference he is suppose to be in hight school and city hunter he graduated from college

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I cannot agree more. He's not a bad actor, and he's got tremendous star power- yet a lot of his roles are cocky rich-boys with daddy problems. He's got gems like City Hunter and Faith, why can't he just steer away from that overdone chaebol stuff and try something more refreshing? Even if he has that "rich-boy" aura about him, I'm pretty sure he'd fare well in a completely different drama.

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Same here. I thought he was taking a more actor-worthy path after City Hunter.

But from his choice of this role, it seems that he's really concerned about ratings and keeping up with his idol status.

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I feel disappointed that Lee Min-ho chose this drama. All his previous dramas are so good. Even Faith, which is considered as his only flop drama, has more plot, interesting story and characters than Heirs.

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Cause he probably thought Kim Eun Sook, the hit maker writer, could actually write....I am so disappointed by the plot.

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yeah, her writing totally sucks right now...here's hoping she will get a bit of inspiration...wasting all that talent...

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Yeah, seriously. Her males leads are usually very memorable characters too. I'm not really surprised anyone signed on for this drama. Actually, I think PSH is the only one I wonder why she bothered. She didn't need the buzz and KES female characters are mostly bland and underused.

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that's what I thought too. KES prefers to highlight male leads in her dramas.

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It's not really surprising ES loses her spine and personality when the plot demands it Secret Garden was full of moments like that.

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Yep. If badass Key Lime loses her spine in it it's no wonder the poor schoolgirl does. SG was also full of dubious consent moments... so none of this is surprising to me.

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Ooh, you're a renowned writer right? You must have a few hit dramas on your name. I'm so waiting to see how well your next drama plays. Good luck!

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LOL I love this kind of response. We do not have to write anything because that's her job. She has one job, to write an interesting enough drama, she did a dismal job. Why wouldn't we criticize it? Does she get a pass because she known? No. If you have a job, and you do it wrong, you'll be criticized, be it a writer, and architect or the President. That's life, deal with it.

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Yeah, I know she's renowned. Otherwise, people won't write her name out here so much.

I don't think we understand each other. Well, that's life.

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We do have our own interpretations of what is great or not. A person's beloved artwork can be seen as trash by other people.

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LOL branwen, you don't have to act every person who says the drama didn't meat their expectation. It is not like one person is trolling saying the drama plot is bad, it is almost more than half of the commenters that are here. So chill, we are allowed to voice our opinions just as you are allowed to voice yours. You don't see any of the critics attacking a person who said they like the drama do you.

Don't get your panties in a bunch ma'am and have a nice day
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I now understand that we don't really understand each other. Hmm... I'll figure it out someday.

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branwen, usually the worst movie critics are the people who work in the movie industry. There are exceptions of course but one thing is sure: you don't have to be a film director to be a very good film critic/analyst.
Directing a movie is one thing, writing a movie/drama is another, and writing film/drama reviews is a completely different job. So although I clearly understand why you're irritated by those comments on a personal note, your argument is not valid.

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Dunno, but am glad he did not take a part in Secrets - I think those actors are doing great. I honestly don't think that LMH could do near as well.

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they are both different genre.. full stop... sigh

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maybe he wanted to play safe after Faith?
unfortunately....

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Please all the complainers..JUST STOP! The show is great....I am not going to write it off this soon.
LMH is hot looking and can act..I am glad he chose this role because i've had enough of him trying to not show off as an arrogant and egoistic bullying male. This is refreshing even though I don't agree with the bullying at all. But I guess it is part of Korean school culture...correct me if I am wrong. I've seen bulling in a lot of dramas (Monstar, BOF, Playful kiss, Goong, Ma Boy....and I can go on. The rich kids always bullying the poor).
PSH should kiss better...i completely agree.
The show is not just eye candy. I am actually loving every one's screen presence....
I am sure the story will evolve! Love Heirs.

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Oh, let them be. It's kinda fun. It's nice that they're here even though they complain about the drama so much. And even JB and GF have qualms about Heirs. So I think it's not a problem at all.

We're all here to discuss the drama anyway, and this is the perfect place to do it. Everyone's doing their share, don't you think?

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I'm totally agree with you....*thumbs up*

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as far as i know he acceped far before the script..because the director and screen writer were famous and he wanted to work with the..and he was the very first actor picked (waaay before the others)for this project even the writer said she wants to design this drama and his character especialy for lee min ho..that's what i've heard..and i doubt we'll get to see him acting as a school boy anymore soo i enjoy this:D

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you're spot on darn right... LMH will never act as a school boy anymore, so am enjoying it while he still can :)

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I agree. She played a warrior, a secret/undercover and now, this!.

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To build his teenage fan base more!

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Exactly. He had a younger fanbase when he did BBF. With PT, CH and Faith, he catered more to older viewers. He was actually hesitant to play a teenager, but wanted to do a lighter, care-free character. And I guess he was relying on the writer's reputation as a hitmaker. Hopefully he makes it up and accepts that movie offer next year.

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Eight episodes already!

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Yeah. 8 episodes already... don't think they will ever graduate from high school lol...

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my favorite part

Yong Do: "don't accept what?.... my heart" you cheesy you!

don't like
Tan: "since I like you I have the right to invde your privacy." what!?

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also, agree with all the comments gf made about the kiss.

these are classic kdrama moves that I hate. I mean it's okay to invade someone's privacy because you like her? kiss her so she would listen to you? grrrr!

the thing with young do is that he doesn't justify his wrongdoings as means of goodwill. he comes straight at you.

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In real life if a guy does any of the things Young Do and Tan are doing to get the girl's attention, I say lawsuit!!

But there were so good parts in this episode too unlike ep 7 which was a waste of airing time :D

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Not just about classic movements dramas, but also LMH is famous for his kisses and this was really bland, pathetic.

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I don't think it's a 'classic' kdrama thing in this case because the way I see it, both Tan and his older brother invades the personal space of the girls they like. It's something they both learned or picked up somewhere...

I think the writer really understands how rich people act and think as norm versus how regular people act/think as norm. For the richies, it's normal for them to take what they want and push others to the side (like how Tan handles Rachel; how Tan's older brother treat Tan; even Young Do pushing his father to get the custom's card from Rachel).

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To be honest, this has been one k-drama trope I've always struggled with -the aggressive guy who seems to force his attentions on the girl, complete with persistent calls, unannounced personal visits, and wrist grabbing. It really strikes me as a few steps away from stalking. Early Gu Jun-Pyo in Boys Over Flowers was a classic example.

Usually I just shrug it of and tell myself "cultural differences," but if I'm to be honest, I'm just doing it so I can enjoy the drama. But deep down it does bother me, and much as I'm enjoying "Heirs," I really didn't like it there either. With Young-Do it's sort of terrifying because he has the capacity to be physically violent, and to do God knows what else if he's enraged enough. But Tan was equally annoying. He lives in the same house as Eun-Sang and knows what she's going through; he should try being more sensitive and not be so pushy.

To those who complained about PSH's kisses, this wasn't a mutual kiss. Of course it's going to look forced. It was supposed to!

I agree I would like to see more opportunities for Eun-Sang to show spirit. I liked her telling off Tan about the differences between them when her mother called. Give him hell :)!

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Faye, I completely agree with you. I also find myself shrugging off these really annoying incidents of the male characters treating ES like she's an object, in order for me to keep enjoying the drama. Other than that aspect, I really like the series, but it makes it increasingly difficult to stay in the moment if Tan keeps acting like a douche.

As a feminist, it really bothers me that kdramas don't have strong female characters, so I find myself conflicted when I'm trying to enjoy them. I really like kdramas, and wish they would stop with all the wrist grabbing and forced kisses - what a turn off!! ugh!

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To those who complained about PSH’s kisses, this wasn’t a mutual kiss. Of course it’s going to look forced. It was supposed to!

And yet, watch people ignoring that fact all over these comments.

I might reconsider my current very low opinion of Tan for that kiss if he has the sense to realise he's done wrong right afterwards, but right now? NOPE.

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I wish plot wise, things would get going already! Nothing much is happening, and we're done with almost half of the show.

But hey, I get my Lee Min Ho eye candy, so all is good... For now.

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Hon, we were still in the introductory phase of the show, from next week on, things should start moving along... 20 episode k-dramas are like that.

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I've seen longer kdramas that have more plot movement than that. And from the previews, doesn't seem like there's gonna be a change in pace anytime soon.

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Wait you saw previews?? Where?

Well I've seen kdramas of 20 episodes that the story starts moving in episode 11, well I've seen 16 episode dramas that do the same.... So give it a chance, if not there are other dramas out there you can watch =)

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Regardless of which episode the story starts going in earnest, I'm still gonna watch it to the end. There's enough Lee Min Ho to keep me going, however bewildering the story gets lol. I wish they'd just do more with the material and the actors they have, spinning their wheels in the same spot will just bore the viewers, and I'd like for this drama to be successful. I'm not sure which lengthy dramas you've seen, but there are ones that were written tightly and had the gears going as early as episode 4 (city hunter, hong gil dong, all about eve, to name a few), so length is no excuse for slow plot. So I'd really like this to get going already, because frankly, there's not much in the dramascape to watch for now.

Also, previews are up on dramafever. Well, it was at the end of episode 8, so you can just fast forward to that bit.

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Thanks for letting me know where the previews are.. Again those dramas you mentioned to me are the exception not the norm, the norm in kdrama world (and even if I've only been watching for 2 years I've seen more than 100-150 dramas) is that the actions stars moving later in the game, some dramas have some movement in the beginning but the real challenges come after episode... I can understand the frustration but think about it this way, the drama has SUCH a large cast, that some of the characters, who are bound to have interesting roles were not properly introduced until last week, were still learning about some of the connections this people have. So the pacing does not bother me at all. We shall see where this heads though.

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Lol if you think slow pacing is the norm, I feel bad for you for the drama choices you've made. :| I've been watching kdramas for over a decade - with the budget and the fanfare and hype that Heirs has, I really do expect more, especially from Kim Eun Sook. But that's just me lol.

But hey, one thing we can agree upon is: ISN'T IT ABOUT TIME FOR SOME LEEMIN-ABS?!?!

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Yes, time for some LEEMIN-ABS! it's so strange how the camera is always angled away from his abs, the most we ever get is his broad shoulders. Not that they aren't nice, but the shallow part of me that severely wants some eyecandy wants MOAR! It definitely is not for the lack of opportunities, since we have LMH changing clothes in the motel in US... Yet we have KWB's abs while he's changing out of his judo clothes. More LMH would just be the cherry on top of the icing! :)

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Eye candy is all that I am watching this drama for. It doesnt make sense any more. And if I think long and hard about the plot, I get mad about the way the lead guys are treating Eun Sang. So I keep my brain safely tucked away before watching the show. Also, I dont know if anyone realized this, the dialogues kind of remind me of Secret Garden - the pace at which the actors deliver them is pretty fast. Thank god my korean has improved. However, I did have one thing to say to all those who abuse this drama - I think we hold KDramas to high exacting standards, come on people, has no one seen Gossip Girl here? I have seen much worse American shows, so let us allow the writer to enjoy her creative licence and hope and pray that our leads come around and Young Do realizes his pettiness.

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I started watching Heirs because I wanted to see how it would compare to Gossip Girl and when it sometimes becomes too much, I just try to draw parallels and amuse myself with that. I never expected Gossip Girl to be anything else than it was - a soap opera about teenagers for teenagers - so I never expected Oscar-worthy performances or scripts and if it got really too bad, I just simply didn't watch the episode. If people thing some stories here are contrived, they sure should check out the latest few seasons of Gossip Girl and to see what truly is contrived. But I've never thought of seeking a true revelation in either Gossip Girl or Heirs and have looked for high-quality material elsewhere. But GG and Heirs are merely for entertainment - if you don't enjoy it, just watch something else, there's plenty of other shows out there.

So I am glad that at least someone else has recognised this as well :D

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Exactly my point. I am not saying we shouldnt hold them to high standards because yes we should. Its just that there are different flavors out there and all dramas cannot be enjoyed by everyone. I knew what to expect when I began watching this show. I am okay with this show because it currently delivers what I wanted from it. I am also disappointed with this show precisely because of that - because it has actors of great potential but it is satisfied with being mediocre. But to condemn the show for not being of a higher stature is kinda stupid because I thought we all knew that this was going to be a very superficial drama with plenty of good looking rich kids. I was not expecting a School 2013 or Reply 1997 when I began watching this. But all these discussions and all this loving and hating is what I enjoy abt Kdramas, so I am fine with people being mad, I guess. Thanks for agreeing.

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To be fair, we can have good shows for teenagers too - there was Buffy the Vampire Slayer, way back in the day. Gossip Girl was just nice eye candy that used its teen audience as an excuse to make its characters so stupid, it was a wonder they remembered their own names (with the possible exceptions of Chuck and Blair, and even Blair got the I-want-princessdom lobotomy at one point).

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Oh yeah GG was in no way a good teenage show - there were far better ones like Wonder Years - that was my personal fav but better ones out there. But there was something sleazy and enthralling about GG that made it captivating and like I said a person who didnt like the show wouldnt watch it. It was a mediocre show with mediocre actors( atleast their acting ability on the show ) but somehow it was fun to watch if that show is right up ur alley. :)

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I have to disagree about Gossip Girl. It was actually a very well written, tongue in cheek, show. It knew it wasn't supposed to be taken seriously, unlike this steaming pile of crap. It was funny, sexy, sometimes over the top with the relationship switcheroos, but it never forgot that it was built on the premise of rich teenagers and their "problems" It was supposed to be somewhat ridiculous. I mean, that's the voice of Gossip Girl.....But Heirs....doesn't even come close to being as good as Gossip Girl. Nope.

Kim Woo Bin is the only remotely interesting character in this show. He is somewhat like Chuck, but perhaps a bit more cruel. If the show were around him, it would probably be much better, but perhaps too dark for Korean television.

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I love the overall feeling of this episode, but Young Do kills me, is there now redeeming quality in that character?? ANd that kiss.... WIll she ever kiss better on screen? Lord, I'm not asking for a graphic kiss but something that feels real, especially when you have Lee Min Ho (a good onscreen kisser) as you partner. Ahhh apart form everything else can't wait for next week's episode.

THANKS FOR THE RECAP! ;)

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Babs, Park can more than deliver in the kissing department. She was in a kdrama with Jang Seuk before doing "You're Beautiful" and their characters were romantically involved and they were kissing each others faces off mouth open and everything.

All you have to do is find the vids on youtube. I just wish they would allow her and Lee to kiss the way we know they can.

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An the kisses in that drama were horrible too... I'm sorry I don't know what version of you're Beautiful you watched but I have watches that drama 5 times, and the kisses were on point for him, not so for her... I love Park Shin Hye,I'm her fan and as such I recognize her flaws... Dont get me wrong I think the girl has a lot of potential, and chops, but she needs to step it up, and fast, because there are a lot of kdrama stars out there who are doing a much better job in the kissing department.

And nobody is stopping their kisses, actually this show is the network know for having good kissing it's SBS for goodness sakes, the kisses of this network (apart from those of tvn) are the one's i look forward to.

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Oh SBS kisses, from recent memory, the kisses in Jang Ok Jung, Live in Love were awesome. And that was a saeguk.
If PSH and LMH had even half the chemistry as the explosive hotness that Yoo Ah In and Kim Tae Hee shared, I would be in heaven right now.

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KTH is one who can perform kisses [go to youtube - IRIS, she and LBH had a ball with the lips definitely] eventhough her acting chops are mediocre. It used to be bad but now it's mediocre.

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It's not a drama, I believe. It's an Etude CF, I forgot which one. But yeah, it was with Jang Geun Seuk :)

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I have not seen this. I've watched most of the youtube stuff they have of her...

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guess you are referring to Goong S. the guy that she kissed was her fav singer at that time if I am not wrong and that happen to be her 1st screen kiss.
After that, she was cold fish kissing all the way until yesterday's episode. Just hope that LMH will influence her a bit more.
Am still hopeful that it will happen since we still have 12 more episodes. PSH, the ball is in your hands now and it is totally up to you and up one notch and be a partner-in-crime with LMH in the kissing dept. Please SHOW.

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she was kissing se7en quite passionately. and yeah after that drama, she's more careful? but her reaction suits this setting bcause kim tan did do it all of a sudden.

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i hope she slaps him for that or something in the next episode.

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That's part of PSH contract - no torrid kissing. Her manager of more that 10 years is very strict and everything is written in the contract. And that is an agreement between PSH's parents and her manager - stick by the rules.

Uhm Tae Woo stole a kiss from PSH when they did Cyrano. Next day, PSH's Dad visited the set - and mind he is a very tall man - taller than Kim Woo Bin and Lee Min Ho.

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Oh, I read a completely different story about Uhm Tae Woong. It's not really about the kiss but about him proposing marriage every now and then to PSH. And where the heck did you hear/read about any contract? If there really is, why is the kiss from Etude an exception? It's still the same manager and the same parents right?

Maybe I just don't get you... Ah, what the heck. You're free to say and write whatever you please. Carry on. :)

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Etude and now Flower Boy Next Door.

Let's be real, most k-ent kisses have the guy doing all the lip movement anyway, but she was actually looking responsive and into it in the final kiss in FBND, which was a HUGE step forward from the dead fish kissing of her previous dramas.

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Talking about LMH kisses, I can feel the heat even when he just leaning forward. What is it about him - is it the yearning eyes, the semi-parted lips or the cheeks?

Sadly, the result with his co-stars are always the same - flat.

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Jajaja it's sad... but true... He had the most chemistry with the City Hunter girl and with the lead of Personal Taste... le sigh here's hoping for less cold fish and more hot kiss.

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LMH acted with PMY before and they had known each other for years and did another drama before City Hunter. They are like old pals.
Natural and beautiful Son Ye Jin is a seasoned kisser. Go watch her in April Snow, she was sensuous with Bae Yong Joon. That movie was tastefully done with more of an adult theme. you won't be disappointed for sure :)

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YES!!! Me too!!! That was actually the first time that I truly was yelling at my monitor "Kiss! Kiss! Kiss!" while crushing my pillow to my chest and feeling my heart thundering in my chest. Gah!!!!!! Only to be disappointed big-time. That was the perfect moment! Perfect! What the hell were they thinking? Blathering idiots!

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I agree with another poster who said her reaction was spot on because it was sorta a forced kiss.

As a fan of the show, I was disappointed in the kiss. I agree with the recapper that the kitchen kiss would have been better.

Overall, I still love the show. But I'm getting tired of PSH crying in every single scene. She cries when he tells her he likes her, she cries when she's bullied, she cries when she gets her uniform, she cries when the wind blows.

What happened to the girl who had a little fire in her? The girl who snatched Rachel's name tag?

I would like to see more of that girl. Her standing up a little more for herself. I would also like to see her interest in LMH. Cause it's starting to seem like he's harassing her.

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I have the same gripe about Eun Sang. It is frustrating to not see more spunk in her. However, before she went to Jeguk High School, she was in an environment she was comfortable in and felt she had nothing to lose by sticking up for herself. Now in this ultra-elite school, she really is a fish out of water and feels she wants to grab on to this chance to better her life (and her mother's). So it makes it harder for her to assert herself, for fear of being outed as Jeguk chairman's maid's daughter, and lose it all.

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Well I disagree with the way you see Eun Sang's character... Right now she can't be the strong girl she used to be, specially in front of the boys... it's a new environment and a place where she owes what she is doing to the rich people, which means she cannot answer back or be the real her... Until she moves out of Tan's house and she realizes why she was sent to the school she will not be her true self. But let's keep watching the drama and wait for it to show where it's headed.

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Babs, her Etude House CF with Jang Geun-seuk (and that one felt real all right, she was giving him the flirty eyes, leaning in, hands running all over each other - shame YAB kept her so nonresponsive during the kisses) and the final kiss in her most recent drama before Heirs - Flower Boy Next Door- prove she CAN kiss perfectly well when it's called for, but I don't think it's called for when she's playing a high school girl being subjected to a forced kiss. It's unfair to rip on her for this, imo.

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I think the best part of this drama is definitely the lighter-half of the storyline. I absolutely love every scene with Bona. Her character seems bratty and high maintenance in the beginning, but she's not in any way "evil" or annoying. I feel like she's the only character who is confident in who she is, and knows what she wants. I really loved that scene with Tan, Eunsang, Bona & Chanyoung. I find it so hilarious that Bona and Tan have a similar personality, and they're both so sure that the other still has feelings for them. Haha.

Another standout pairing in the drama I'd like to mention is Tan's mother and Eunsang's mother. That scene with the pillow exploding everywhere floored me. Super hilarious. Loved these two.

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I love the moms too. they really can't live without one another. so far, they seem to have the best chemistry in the drama.

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