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Heirs: Episode 18

Breaking up is hard to do, especially when you’re not really broken up. Our couple spends a lot of energy in being apart-but-together and together-but-apart, and I can’t even tell you which is worse. Let’s just say there are lots of tears. But in better news, when Tyrannical Daddy digs his heels in further, it actually spurs the people around him to make some changes. Let’s just hope they don’t get run out of town first.

 
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EPISODE 18 RECAP

We return in the midst of Tan’s meltdown, as he lies bloody and bruised in the street and tells Young-do he can take Eun-sang now. Oh are you done playing with that toy now? Young-do fumes: “Do you wanna die?” He challenges Tan’s right to rebel now, after what’s happened to Eun-sang because of him.

I do admit I see things from Young-do’s point of view in this conversation, because Tan made this mess and is now the one crying about it. Tan admits he can’t do it anymore, and Young-do just leaves him there to wallow a little more in his own self-loathing.

Tan trudges home to a shocked Madam Han and Won, and an annoyed Chairman Dad who shouts after him that his antics aren’t cute anymore. The fact that you thought they were before is disturbing.

Won comes up to his room to try and talk some sense into him, with reminders that no amount of kicking his feet will change the way their household goes ’round. He tries to order Tan to go to the hospital, which is sweet, but just gets met with more deadened stares.

Tan finally asks when he’ll get sent to America. ” I feel like I’m dying. Please just send me away. Please, save me hyung.” He breaks down, and Won is taken aback by his desperate tears.

When Won returns to the hotel, he runs into Young-do wearing a matching bloody lip, and stops him to ask if he’s the one who fought with Tan.

Young-do says he did the hitting and sighs that he forgot that he shouldn’t hit kids with hyungs. “I forgot Tan had one. He’s so good at hiding it.” Buuuurn.

Won just needles right back: “Looks like he doesn’t have any friends either.” He tells Young-do to put some ointment on his wounds, and heads upstairs.

Bo-na gets upset when she realizes Chan-young is staring at Eun-sang’s posts online, hoping for a clue on her whereabouts. The stream of messages back and forth between Tan and Eun-sang both posing as Eun-sang confuse her, because she’s delightfully simple like that.

Eun-sang sits at work staring at the same posts, and takes one last lingering look before deleting them. Tan sits up with a start as he watches every last picture and message disappear from the account before his very eyes.

Hyo-shin sighs to see Tan so troubled, and jokes that wearing his pain on his face is a little clichéd. He knows it won’t solve anything, but suggests that he should just go see Eun-sang or bring her here if he misses her that much, thinking it’ll at least lessen his suffering.

Young-do goes down to Eun-sang’s house for a visit…stalk…visit-stalk. There’s no sign of her, but just as he turns to go, he recognizes Mom, who remembers him too. She turns him away at first, but decides he’s probably harmless (if only you knew) and invites him inside.

She makes him food, which is probably the first home-cooked meal Young-do has had since he was a child, and he chokes back tears as he takes a bite. It’s pretty heartbreaking, and a scene like this makes me wish Young-do had been written this sympathetically from the start.

Mom asks if he’s good friends with Eun-sang, and he admits shyly that he likes her. But as soon as he says it out loud, he gets this sheepish smile on his face that he can’t hide. Mom tells him Eun-sang went to Seoul to wrap up some paperwork at school, but in reality she’s sitting in a room with Chairman Dad. Eep.

Chairman Dad accuses her of taking his money and then overstepping her bounds, feeling so high and mighty about it that he doesn’t even want her saying Tan’s name. What, is she going to taint it by uttering it with her drugstore-chapsticked lips? Good grief.

Eun-sang promises to repay the debts that Chairman Dad covered in her own time, but doesn’t apologize for liking Tan: “because that’s not wrong.” Good for you.

She tells him that she won’t see him anymore as promised, but there’s nothing the chairman can do to stop her from liking Tan. She asks not to be called here again.

She stops at the dreamcatcher store for one last look, which is exactly where Tan is headed on his zombie walk through town. He stops short at the sight of her, and they brace themselves and walk towards each other…

…And they each walk past without stopping. Tan keeps going for a minute until he finally breaks down and turns back. He runs to catch up with her, but she’s long gone.

He chases her down all the way to the bus, hopping on just as the doors close. Eun-sang is shocked to see him sitting across the aisle, but they just continue that way in silence, as he walks behind her all the way back to her house.

She doesn’t look back once, and he just watches from afar. This writer just reeeeeally likes this silent follow-walk motif for all her drama heroes.

It’s only when Eun-sang gets inside and closes the door that she lets herself cry, and she runs back outside. You two and your delayed reactions.

She runs down the road where he was shadowing her just moments ago, but he’s already gone. She trudges back down the empty street alone, but then there he is, waiting for her and asking why she came looking for him.

She tells him not to speak to her, or come to her, or do anything, but as soon as she turns her back he back-hugs her. “I can’t let you go, Cha Eun-sang. What are you going to do?”

She cries in his arms but then pulls away, as if to say she’ll be the first to let go then.

Meanwhile back at Chez Kim, Chairman Dad now turns the blame on Madam Han, accusing her low-class blood of being the reason Tan turned out this way. Wow. There are no words for how disgusting you are.

He says he should never have let her dream of reaching the executive suite so to speak, while she cries that he’s the one who brought her in this house and made the top floor her home. She goes up to her room in tears and takes off every piece of jewelry the chairman ever gave her.

Rachel and Young-do run into each other as they clean up their parents’ cancelled wedding arrangements, and joke amicably now about losing each other as siblings. Young-do still calls her sexy sister, which ew, but at least it won’t come true anymore?

He turns down her offer to share a friendly meal, opting instead to go to his favorite snack shop alone. And there among the scribbles on the wall, is a lone message from his mother: “Are you doing well…Young-do-ya?”

Won has Hyun-joo over for a sleepover and asks if she still doesn’t have a wish for her wishbone necklace. She thinks marriage would be a boring use for her wish, and he brings up his blind date, clearly feeling bad about it.

He asks her if she would’ve liked it better if he had been like Tan, but Hyun-joo says he couldn’t have been: “You’re someone who dreams of the highest seat, while Tan’s dream is for Eun-sang to be his entire world.”

She tells him to go after his dream, and promises to wave from down below. He says he’s working his way up now, and asks her to wait just a little longer.

Eun-sang reads a passage from a novel called Wonder Boy that gives her pause, and she prints out a copy to paste in the bookstore window. It reads:

Our two hands that clasped one other as we escaped past those people. Those bones, and muscles, and veins that gave their strength not to let go—that is almost all the love I know. What other love is there than that?

Other than the fact that I couldn’t let go of that hand.

The door opens and she gets a visitor she wasn’t expecting: Won walks into the bookstore, and though she assumes he’s here to rattle her cage, I think we’re in for a brotherly save.

She tells him defensively that she won’t see Tan anymore, but he says he’s here to fix the mistakes of his father, and asks what it is she wants for her life—to return to her old life, or to be next to Tan?

He suggests that if it’s hard to choose, maybe thinking of tomorrow instead of the long term is easier. He even offers her an excuse—final exams are coming up, and she can use that as a reason to return to school.

He tells her that sometimes when you can’t come up with the courage you need, leaning on a flimsy excuse is a start. Well, he ought to know about that.

Won returns to find Tan sitting in the wine cellar, and asks if he’s really going to do as ordered from now on. Tan agrees to leave for the States whenever hyung wants, but Won says the first thing he wants is for Tan to do well on his final exams. He adds a cute, “And if you’re in last place again…”

He hands Tan a little note left behind by Eun-sang, wedged in between bottles of Won’s favorite wine. He says it must’ve been a request for him to pass it along, but he didn’t really see the need to until now. He says he asked to be saved, so he’s doing it.

Tan sits in the cellar and reads the note as we see Past Eun-sang in the same frame as she writes it. She recalls the dreamlike mid-summer when they met: “The days were hot, the nights cold, and I liked you.”

She apologizes for lying to him and for running away. “My relief amidst misfortune, Kim Tan. I’m really disappearing like yesterday’s dream. It was nice to see you in my dream, Kim Tan.”

Early the next morning, Eun-sang puts on her uniform and returns to school. She sits down next to Tan and he’s so shocked he just stares and stares, finally asking, “Is it you?”

She says she won’t run away anymore and she’ll stay by his side, and he just envelops her in a hug.

So…is that the end of the separation segment? Not that I’m not happy about the misery being over; I’m just not sure what changed. Whatever, moving on.

Young-do hears that Eun-sang is back, and even though she greets him with a smile in the hallway, he walks past her without a word. W…hy?

It’s a happier reunion with Bo-na and Chan-young, and Bo-na is especially adorable with her I didn’t miss you at all! followed by a bear-hug. Cute.

Everyone takes finals and even Tan keeps his promise to hyung and tries. When he passes Young-do in the hall, the air is back to icy between them, and it’s another silent pass-by. I can never keep up with the randomness of you two and your up and down relationship, so I’m just going to go with, Today Is Not-Friends Day.

Young-do bursts into the broadcast room and tells Eun-sang he knows what debt-collectors must feel like now, and asks why she keeps making him ask about the debt she owes him. So they finally go get those noodles she promised forever ago.

He takes one bite and asks why she came back—if she’s really going to fight this fight. She says she wants to try, and he takes it in silently, and then tells her to give up if it gets too hard, that way he can say “I told you so.”

He tells her not to talk to him anymore, and she asks if they can’t be friends. Young-do: “No. You were a woman to me from the start, and you’re a woman to me now. And from now on, my first love. If we see each other, let’s not say hello. Let’s not ask how we’re doing. Even after a long time passes, let’s not smile and pretend to reminisce about how we were back then.”

And with that, he tells her she can pay for the noodles and walks out. Aw, poor Young-do. At least you learned how to be sincere.

Eun-sang tells Bo-na she’s sleeping elsewhere tonight, and elsewhere turns out to be Myung-soo’s studio with Tan.

He tells her that he likes her, that he missed her, and that he felt like he was going to die, and that he swore to himself that he’d never laugh again and never fall in love again. “So don’t ever throw me away again, Cha Eun-sang.”

She reaches over for his hand and they sit there holding hands and smiling.

In the morning he grumps that all she did was study all night, and sighs that he hates the fact that they’re underage. The first reason is that everything he does ends up looking like an adolescent tantrum to the outside world, and the second reason is one she doesn’t let him say because it’s certainly naughty. Let him say it!

Madam Han calls to say vaguely that she might not be home when he gets there after school, which Tan just takes as her going out for the evening. But we see that she’s packing a bag.

She goes downstairs to tell Chairman Dad that she’s going to leave him, which he finds absurd. But she’s prepared to go if it means giving Tan what he wants, and heads for the door. Leaving isn’t as easy as she imagined though, because Chairman Dad tells her she’ll be going to the States to ride out whatever angst she’s feeling, making it clear she’ll never be truly free of him.

She panics as his minions load up the car with her suitcases, and grabs a passing taxi to make a run for it. She goes to Tan’s school and happens to see Young-do out in the street, and begs him to find Tan for her.

It’s eerily similar to the moment when Young-do’s mom came looking for him, and he puts her in his car and goes running to find Tan. Aw, you really are friends when it counts.

Thankfully he finds Tan right away and tells him to hurry, and sends them both off in his car just in time to avoid being seen by Chairman Dad’s minions. As Young-do stands in the street, he envisions his mother asking for him on the last day she was here.

He goes back to his snack shop and writes a response to Mom’s message on the wall asking if he’s doing well: “No. I think I lived wrongly.”

Tan tells Mom to go wait at Young-do’s hotel for now, and goes to see Chairman Dad. Tan tells him that he’ll take responsibility for Mom now, by parting ways with his father for good. Nice.

He says he’ll only live as Mom’s family from now on, and bows: “Thank you for having me.”

It shocks Dad, but he continues to go ahead with arrangements for Tan’s eighteenth birthday as planned—company stocks, along with a big press conference at Zeus Hotel. Tan hears about it from Won, and decides he’ll attend after all.

Won gives him the Cheondam-dong villa for his mother’s use, admitting that her troubles have something to do with him, and Tan apologizes for always doing things his way when it came to hyung.

Won tells him not to apologize because it makes him uncomfortable, but then offers up a happy birthday as Tan walks out, and it puts a little smile on Tan’s face.

It’s time for Tan’s big birthday press conference, and he has Eun-sang escorted there to be his date. Time for the big Cinderella makeover. She wows him in her pretty red dress, and he says they’ll need some courage tonight.

Off they go to face the row of cameras, and he steels himself as they prepare to face the world head-on.

 
COMMENTS

If this entire conflict goes away with one press conference, I’ll die laughing. Anyway, at least there’s some indication that Tan is doing something, even if I’m not entirely convinced he’s cutting ties with Dad for good. And I sort of laughed at the Cheongdam-dong villa for Mom, because these people talk about leaving like it’s some huge sacrifice and they’ll have to be penniless and destitute in exchange for their pride, when in fact they’ll really just move into that other villa provided by the other rich guy. It’s the same for Eun-sang, whose life changes in no visible way except for the fact that in one moment Chairman Dad is pulling the strings, and in the next, slightly more magnanimous President Won is backing her instead. Why… can’t she just live her life instead of being allowed to do things by one rich guy over another rich guy? Or am I just asking the wrong questions for this drama because those are her only options in life ever?

Other than the fact that it’s annoying on principle, it also downplays her decision to go back to Tan. Isn’t it more meaningful for them to say, Screw it, we’re just gonna love each other anyway? It’s like the drama wants to say that that’s too unrealistic, so instead we have our teenage romance playing out under the umbrella of choices made by the overseeing (and puppet-string-yanking) adults, which has the effect of taking away any dramatic oomph from the choices made by our lead characters. They’re told to go away and they’re told to come back, and it’s played as if it holds the same dramatic weight as if they made the decisions on their own. I don’t necessarily disagree that these eighteen-year-olds are in fact powerless in their universe. There’s just a disconnect for me between the characters’ agency and the dramatic weight of their choices.

What exactly about Won’s declaration makes it okay for Eun-sang to go back to Tan? Why does Tan think it’s going to be different this time around? The only major shift we saw in this episode is really Madam Han’s choice to leave her husband, which gives Tan freedom from the last reason he’d have to cower to Dad. I’m just pinning my hopes on Tan making some kind of useful declaration at the press conference, and truly cut ties with Dad, officially, for GOOD. At this point I’d be disappointed if Tan didn’t sacrifice his entire kingdom to be with Eun-sang. Tan has so failed to impress me that it’s the only thing left in his arsenal, though I’m not going to hold my breath because obviously this drama is not going to let them (gasp!) be poor.

It was really Young-do’s episode, and the fact that I really felt for him in this hour just made me lament that it was too little, too late. At some point they flipped a switch and the Young-do who secretly wanted to be Tan’s friend and was sincere towards Eun-sang was written with sympathy, and for that character, this episode was a great moment of growth. For that other guy who started out the series pre-lobotomy, it made me sad that his existence fractured a character I could’ve rooted for and loved. I suppose the realization that he lived wrongly is better late than never. It’s just too bad it’s this late.

 
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My Herihead episode titles continued~

1 Dry Cleaning Only
2 Dreamcatcher
3 I ♥ California
4 Page 16
5 Wishbone
6 Parvenu (or New Money)
7 Pale Pink Angora
8 ‘Don’t Answer’
9 Mom Mother Mistress
10 Matching Shoes For Camp
11 Stocks Skyrocket
12 Open The Door
13 Kicked Out
14 Getting Back Together Party
15 Baby Blue Mohair
16 Closet Kiss 34:41
17 24,030 won
18 Try Living

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Congratulations on 1st place in the Heirs recap for Episode 18!

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I know, right? For you, August :)

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In Honor of the Episode Titles - A Trailer for the Series

In a drama set in High School for no sensible reason, where a teenage relationship is treated like the end all and be all (seriously folks – you have the rest of high school, college, young adulthood to find the one) and the worst written teenage female character, since Bella in Twilight (our female lead cries in every scene and wraps her life around some teenage boy, she recently met. Yay! Female Empowerment). Starring Park Shin Hye as the same character she plays in every drama, Lee Min Ho in the second worst decision of his career (he can thank Faith for the first), Kim Woo Bin, stealing the spotlight from the leads and seemly a 1,000 other characters in an over bloated drama, where they get on average 2 minutes per episode. Featuring the worst OST, since Boys Over Flowers’ Almost Paradise (Love is a Mommmmmmmmmmmment!!!!). Heirs – He Who Wears the Crown Bears the Weight of the Most Overhyped Drama of the Year.

Ps. Yes, I am still watching, because it’s hard to keep from staring at the ridiculous nonsense that is this drama.

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haha, the funny thing is, it's all true! Am I the only one that read it with that trailer voice in my head?

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Hahaha Love you man! That was downright hilarious.
100% agreed..one who wears the crown bears the blah blah blah

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or Heirs Loom?

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Hey, can I hug you, whoever and wherever you are? You are so right about this drama being overhyped and I'm so sad it might steal all the awards from dramas such as Master's Sun and Secret Love, just like Boys over flowers, because of its cast and all the publicity. I watch it, but I simply hate the story and the character development.
A shame, really!

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Hi girlfriday & JB,

With Kim Tan actually uttering the words, "I am done with her, you can have her," like ES is an object to be traded and bartered, and all the numerous wrist grab, forced actions in this drama, can you please use Helen Reddy's "I Am Woman" as the soundtrack for the next recap - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6fHTyVmYp4

thanks

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LOVE IS THE MOOOOO-*shoots monitor*

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you guys have a lotsss of complain to say and yet u keep on watching it..

duh!

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Except...Faith was not only one of LMH's greatest, it is one of sageuk's, no, KDrama's greatest series.

And Almost Paradise is still in your head.

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Interesting...

Question, mostly because I don't remember the episodes really well:
1--In reference to ES's mom?
4--page 16? (meaning?)
9--Mom, mother, mistress?
11-- Stock Skyrocket?
13--Kicked out, KT, right?
15--Baby blue Mohair? (KT's sweater?)

OK, I think I am having a senior moment (no disrespect to the seniors, though I am getting up there in age), because I don't remember what many of those titles are referring to.
Does that mean that I have to rewatch the drama to remember? The whole drama? Yikes! (though I would rewatch it for KWB's performance. He didn't move me as much at the beginning, so I was not paying much attention to him, not until a little later).

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Hi Ivoire,

p 16 refers to the comment made to his tutor

Mom Mother Mistress refers to the confusing maternal titles in the Chairman's household and all under the same roof- "Mother" - his father's first wife and Won's mother, who is also the principal at Chaebol High; Mom - his biological mother and his father's mistress whose status in the household is rather compromised and complicated for Tan. The title represents the confusion and tangled web that the parental units have created for their sons.

Stocks Skyrocket refers to the comment concerning the stock prospects on the announcement of Young Do's father and Rachel's mother's marriage.

Kicked Out, right - Kim Tan

Baby Blue Mohair - right, Tan's fuzzy extra large turtleneck sweater.

The episode titles serve as place markers for where we are in the story, in case you ever did want to rewatch certain parts...

lala!

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oops, I didn't finish p 16 - it was a flip comment Kang Ha Neul made to his tutor

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Hi owl,

And thank you so much for answering. I really like what you did (with the titles), and I was trying (like a game) to guess what the markers signified/implied. I was able to guess a few of them, however I have to admit that most of them had me guessing for a while. It just made me realize how much information we (our brain) gathers in the viewing of 18 episodes (so far) of a Kdrama :-).

1--So I take it that it was a reference to ES's mother then?

4--P. 16, I totally did not remember that.

9--owl, about #9, I would just like to clarify something. You said this, "“Mother” – his father’s first wife and Won’s mother, who is also the principal at Chaebol High."
I think that Won's mother is the 1st wife, and she died, and her body is buried in CA (ep. 1, I think or 3? The one where KT goes to the almond farm? KW later meets Rachel and takes her to his mother's grave's). Which means that Ji Sook (sp?) is Chairman daddy's 2nd wife. She raised KW for 10 years, and she is mentioned in the family registry as being KT's mother (official mother).
3rd, is Madam Han aka as Ki Ae (I think) and who is KT's biological mother and chairman's mistress. I am sure that is what you meant to say, however it was written that way :-) I did understand what you meant here though, thank you for explaining.

11– Stock Skyrocket? That was in ep. 11? Ah OK...

13--Kicked Out, got it.

I am going to see if I can guess the rest:
2--When ES gave the dreamcatcher to KT (to help pay for her stay)?
3--I heart CA, scene in the motel room, dining room, and the CA T-shirts?
5--KW offering the wishbone to HJ?
6--When KT lies at school that ES is new money?
7--KT's sweater, when he hugged Hyung in the cellar?
8--KT's don't answer your phone and kiss on the rooftop?
10--Matching tennis shoes, BN and CY?
12--When KT kicked the school door (and destroyed it?)
14--BN's party and forehead kiss?
16--Self explanatory
17--24,030 won. KT frantically looking for ES all night (and eventually finding her).
18--Try living: What KW tells KT to do, in the wine cellar, I think.

Did I get all of them right, this time? :-) If so, what did I win? (Just kidding :-) )

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Ivoire, you're right, #9. Wow, the mother thing is even MORE complicated. And that doesn't even include YD's mother's story (sigh, so complicated, the motherness of it all). I almost got mixed up for a minute thinking there was a music box scene with Won, but then I remembered that was from Secret. Sheesh, inter- and intra-kdrama confusion!

I have to laugh at Pale Pink Angora, the rabbit fur sweater that Tan wore.

Anyhoot, it's been a fun thing to do, make up episode titles :)

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[Episode 1] Cha Eun-Sang was flipping through one of her mother's notepads and noticed that Dry Cleaning Only was written down multiple times and on page after page of the notebook.

[Episode 4] Page 16 refers to the page Jeon Hyun-Joo told Lee Hyo-Shin to turn to in one of their tutoring sessions.

[Episode 9] "Mom" = Han Ki-Ae pretended to be Cha Eun-Sang's mother at the Parent Conference at Jeguk High School. After being reprimanded by Director/Chairwoman Jung Ji-Sook for fighting with each other, Choi Young-Do taunts Kim Tan about having to call her "Mother." Choi Young-Do makes a surprise visit to Kim Tan's home and sees Tan with Han Ki-Ae..."Mistress."

[Episode 11] Marriage Announcement/Alliance of Esther Lee and Choi Dong-Wook becomes public knowledge in a news release. Jung Ji-Sook informs Kim Won of Chairman Kim's plans to transfer stocks to Kim Tan for his 18th birthday.

[Episode 13] Kim Tan is kicked out of the house by Chairman Kim.

[Episode 15] Baby Blue Turtleneck Sweater that Kim Tan had on during his escape from home confinement by Chairman Kim.

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Love your chapter titles!

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love the last part in ep 18..thank's for the recap...
It's make us smile,again..Finally!!

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Thank you for the recap! This was an interesting episode for me, in that yes, there were some development (YD finally moving on, on many fronts; KT and ES getting back together), and yet, I was still confused by other things, such as KW and HJ being in bed together. Because I thought, “how did we get there? So now they are back together? Were they ever together? Were they on, then off, then on again, then off, and now they are back on?” So confusing…

My favorite scene right off the bat (of the whole ep.), was YD being with ES’s mom. I rewatched it many times, and each time I cried. KWB is just that good, and YD got to me. I LOVED that it was a scene where not much was spoken, but A LOT was conveyed, nonetheless. I will expand on it later. That scene reminded me of the scene in Gaksital, where KT eats the potato given to him by the leader, and he remembers his brother and he cries. So. Moving…

My questions of the day:

1—Interesting comment from Chairman daddy: about VP Yoon, “he was a dog with a bowl of just that size?” meaning his ambition amounted to just that much?

2—Even if things don’t change, after getting into an accident, you can breathe freely for a little bit. (meaning?) (HS). I am asking because when I hear accident, I always think car accident, but that is not what HS meant here, I think…

3—ES to Chairman daddy: depending on my situation, I will pay you (not lazily)? Meaning how fast she will pay him back, right?

5—I asked where that bloodline (mother and son being alike) would go. Why is the dad acting as if he has nothing to do with it (meaning Tan’s conception and birth)? She is not the Virgin Mary. I am just frustrated with the dad.

6—Chairman: I raised tigers?(KT and KA). How are they tigers? So he thinks he raised KT’s mom? (rhetorical question, kind of, but feel free to comment on that).

7—Chairman: Why can’t you give up a thing like that (what thing?) I think for KT, he means, ES, but I am not sure what he meant for KA.

8—KW to HJ: “You didn’t ask me her name, how old she is, and if she is pretty”. HJ: “I am not great in those areas” (a blogger said, “I am not worried about those things, she can’t beat me” something like that), and then KW, “at least you know.” (Which one is which, the subs or the blogger’s version?)

9—KW to ES: “KT, you are not going to see him”(Eng. Subs)? But I thought I heard, (you don’t miss him?) bogoshipo (sp?)?

10—ES, in the letter, she says she is disappearing now…? (So does she want to be with him or not?)

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9) I don't clearly remember what Won actually said when he was talking to Eun Sang, but '보고 싶어' (bogosipeo) literally means 'want to see', so in some instances when people use it casually, it can be construed as '(I/you) miss (you/someone random)', but perhaps in Won's case, the subbers just took it to mean 'do you want to see him'.

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2- it also means getting into trouble...
3- she'll work hard and pay him back as soon as she can.
9- also means "want to see or look at"
Where's #4?

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I have a question. Exactly why do you have so many questions for every episode? I don't mean anything by this, it's just that I really am curious as to why you have the need to analyze the entire episode. Is there a specific reason for this?

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Ditto. Especially, since it takes up so much space of the early comments section.

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10 - won tells tan that he found the letter "a few days ago," meaning eun-sang probably wrote it before she disappeared.

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I also loved Young-do's scenes in this episode. So moving. I was curious about the note that was supposed to be from his mom. Is it new? When he saw it, he look surprised. If it had been there for the past 3 years I think he would have seen it by now? So does that mean she was back around town again and left that (new?) message on the wall?

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Perhaps the writer had another one of those lightbulb moments when she thought, "Let's add that coz it's a nice touch." Considering this drama's plot inconsistencies, I wouldn't be surprised if that is exactly what happened. Look at Won's and HJ's relationship. WTF! Are they on third base already? I thought they didnt even have a proper relationship!

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Hey Ivoire, I'll see if I can answer some of your questions, haha.

1- I think you're right about that. The chairman had bigger expectations for him (saying multiple times that he wasn't satisfied with Won)
2- I know HS tried to kill himself...
3- Yep. She meant "I'll pay you back as fast as I can"
4- Where are youuuu???
5- Oh my Goodness. So, funny story, at the beginning of this drama I liked the dad. Now, I'm trying not to kill him.
6- Commenting just because I didn't catch that while watching the episode... Interesting. Possibly how they are wild and don't obey him?
9- bogosipeo - want to see, but can also be used as I miss (whoever)
10- She wanted to be with him but since the chairman told her she was ruining Tan, she "disappeared" to be miss noble idiot. (all in past tense because she wrote the letter right before she left.)

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*Episode 18: The one where everyone’s heart and sense of courage grew three sizes. In some cases inexplicably so, but it was such a welcome shift from episode 17’s angst that I happily accepted it.

Kim Tan: He was truly scary at first. When he begged Won to send him back to exile in the U.S., it was so sad. He was saying that he’d rather go back to the numbness of feeling nothing rather than experience the pain of lost love, and that is a bleak place to be. Thankfully, although it took a while, he managed to shake off the dark cloak of depression and self-pity. I think seeing that other people besides Eun-Sang cared about him really helped.

While I loved his and Eun-Sang’s reunion, I think my favorite Tan scene was where he told off his father calmly, like an adult, and took responsibility for his mother. It showed real growth – no more tantrums, just standing up for what he believes is right.

Eun Sang: The Wizard must have given her some courage. Who knew all it would take was the right book? Instead of all this agony, Tan should have just gotten her a Kindle in the first place :). Seriously, though, it might have been a bit on point to have her read that particular book, but it was a beautiful passage.

Young Do: The woobification (pun intended) of YD is complete, but KWB is so good that I completely bought it, despite my past dislike of him. His calmly telling ES they couldn’t talk any more, instead of being nasty; his humbly and gratefully eating the meal her mother prepared; his acknowledging that he hadn’t been living well were so touching. And when he helped Tan’s mother escape, it felt as if he and Tan were coming full circle from their first mother-centered fight.

Won: I’m still not sure how he went from being Tan’s enemy to not only acting as a true brother, but playing Cupid for him as well. Still, it was nice, so I’ll take it. LOL at that scene of him and HJ in the bed fully clothed. I’m not saying to be naked, but then why have them in the bed at all?

KA (Tan’s Oma): I loved that she had enough courage to leave the Chairman – and also that, in some way, she was inspired by Tan to do it. That scene of her slowly removing her jewelry, then appearing in a somber black coat, was such a great way of symbolically showing her removing the “gilded chains” she wears in her relationship with the Chairman.

*I generally hate scenes of rich guys taking their poor girls shopping – too many flashbacks to Pretty Woman, a movie I loathe. However, I’ll let this one pass because Tan and Eun-Sang were so striking in their formalwear – and yay for bangs-less Tan! Young-Do must have lent him his hair wax, the true sign of their renewed friendship.

*I enjoyed Rachel and Young-Do’s little exchange in the dress shop –I still say these two would make the best match. I also liked HS trying to help Tan. As usual, Bo-Na wins the cute award.

*Because it cannot be said enough: Die, Diabolical Daddy. Diiiiieee.

*The fairy-tale birthday outing seems too easy, somehow, especially since it’s sanctioned by the Chairman and we still have two episodes left. I’m getting a little nervous about what’s to come.

Thanks for the recap!

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Your thoughts are a fun read and capture what many of us are thinking!

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Yay I finally got to watch the first five episodes of heirs and it was not as bad as some people made it sound. Its not the best but its good and I mean really good. Lee min ho's english was that bad it was just so laughable and I wish they didn't show his face when he was saying long dialogues in english. It spoils his cool image for me cos I had to cover my yes just so I don't see his face, so I can keep on seeing him as perfect and cool. And KWB is so hot and such a great actor and I giggle like an idiot even if he's a jerk and I am not a fan of his but now I am but I will always love LMH more. KMH is so cute with krystal, I just love their relationship. PSH is great too but I never really saw her as pretty until I watch HS and heirs but heirs really made realize just how pretty she is and which in my opinion is DAEBAK. CJH is looking good and no matter how mean he is, I can not not like him. After spending weeks of just reading recaps and glad that I finally got to watch the real thing and that its not as bad as people made it seem. The ost is actually really good.

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Keep watching, it will still be okay...for a while. Watch out for the middle. But then marathoning it might not be so bad coz you can get over the bad parts really fast. The ending might be even good. Hopefully. Hopefully.

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Thanks, August! I enjoy your posts as well. We need to pick a song for this episode.

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Whenever I hear "Royals" by Lorde now, I think about Heirs and how fitting this song would have been as an OST for Heirs.

"Royals" by Lorde

I've never seen a diamond in the flesh
I cut my teeth on wedding rings in the movies
And I'm not proud of my address
In the torn up town, no post code envy

But every song's like:
Gold teeth
Grey Goose
Tripping in the bathroom
Bloodstains
Ball gowns
Trashing the hotel room

We don't care, we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams

But everybody's like:
Crystal
Maybach
Diamonds on your timepiece
Jet planes
Islands
Tigers on a gold leash

We don't care, we aren't caught up in your love affair

And we'll never be royals (royals)
It don't run in our blood
That kind of lux just ain't for us, we crave a different kind of buzz
Let me be your ruler (ruler)
You can call me queen bee
And baby I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule, I'll rule
Let me live that fantasy

My friends and I we've cracked the code
We count our dollars on the train to the party
And everyone who knows us knows
That we're fine with this, we didn't come from money

But every song's like:
Gold teeth
Grey Goose
Tripping in the bathroom
Bloodstains
Ball gowns
Trashing the hotel room

We don't care, we're driving Cadillacs in our dreams...

We don't care, we aren't caught up in your love affair...

ooh ooh oh ooh
We're better than we've every dreamed
And I'm in love with being queen

ooh ooh oh ooh
Life is great without a care
We aren't caught up in your love affair...

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Wow!!! no kidding!!! I always think about Heirs when I hear this song!!!and if I was talented with the making MVs, I would probably make a video of the characters of Heirs with the song, Royals!!! it just seems right...maybe someone is thinking the same thing too and will make a MV with this song!!! I'd like to see that!!!

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"Yay for bangs-less Tan! Young-Do must have lent him his hair wax, the true sign of their renewed friendship."

Lolz. As always, love your insight. You should consider doing recaps.

I agree that Tan definitely inspired his mom to finally leave the crappy chairman and living situation.

Loved the YD & Rachel scene. Those two are kinda perfect for each other no? They had good chemistry. See Rachel, when you stop being a b*tch, the romantic possibilities are endless!

As for the Won/Hyung fully clothed bed scene, lol, I explained in my post below that I think the writer was trying to convey their bond. I found it to be a really intimate scene even though they had clothes on. I think she wanted to let us know they have an adult relationship. Which I appreciate because in K dramas, grown adults dating seem scared to even hold hands. I'll take what I can get!

I also scared for what is to come. With two episodes left, it seems Daddy KT can still cause a lot of tears :(

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I really appreciate that coming from you, Vicky, because I know you used to edit recaps professionally! I can't compete with the professionals, and even if I wanted to, I just don't have the time to do recaps consistently. I think I keep on commenting for Heirs not only because I enjoy interacting with (some) people here, but somehow I feel compelled to at least have one positive outlook on the show here on the site :). I think even the recappers can't stand it.

I'll go check out your post below re Won/Hyun Joon. I agree it seemed very intimate, it just sort of came out of left field for me. The last time they talked they still seemed estranged, and the next thing you know they were in bed together.

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dear Faye!:)) Once again I got drawn 2 your comprehensive comment! I really enjoy reading your comment AND I REALLY LIKE THIS PART OF UR COMMENT:

" I think my favorite Tan scene was where he told off his father calmly, like an adult, and took responsibility for his mother. It showed real growth – no more tantrums, just standing up for what he believes is right.

:)) u hit the nail on the head! as this drama is "Gossip Girl-esque",the character behave as if 30 but in fact they are teenagers. Unlike the previous KES' dramas,in which,the characters were 30 something but behave as if 15! :)
Madam Han character is the ONLY REMAINING of Kim Eun Sook's previous method & approach of writing!
she behaves as if 15!

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@cute girl - Madame Han is Tan's mother, right? If so, although she has been rather immature in the past, she showed growth in this episode. I think she finally grew up and realized how toxic her relationship with the Chairman was.

I actually watched Gossip Girl from start to finish, and I think emotionally, this show actually beats Gossip Girl. Of course, it's much harder to do six seasons rather than one. But by the end of the series, the characters were all awful parodies of themselves and I couldn't have cared less what happened to any of them. Whereas I am very emotionally invested in wanting the best for the "Heirs" peeps.

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I think with Won it isn't that much of a game changer. We learned via his ex-girfriend/current-love-dilusion/i-have-no-idea-what-they-have-going-on that he does like his brother. He has always just been afraid of the threat Tan represents. He also didn't believe Tan could be as naive as he sometimes is. I think the big change is that now he truly believes Tan.

Since he believes that (Tan wants girl) and not (Tan wants crown), he can now allow his nicer feelings. Of course, if you grew up with Won's dad and uncles, it might also take you a while to trust that being nice is ok. It's not true of all siblings that they'd eat your liver.

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Good points! It still seems like the transition for Won was too abrupt -wasn't it only two episodes ago he was trying to exile Tan again?- but maybe seeing how torn up Tan was convinced him of his sincerity, as you say.

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I definitely think it was because he saw how self destructive Tan became. Didn't he say something to his devil gene donor last episode that Tan had patiently and nicely tried to get Won to like him, but now didn't care. Like he was throwing everyone in his life away. I think when Tan decided to be his brother's enemy it might have woken up Won to how far down he had gone.

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I was thinking. What if Tan turns Golden Empire on his brother Won. Let's say he did all thise dramatic scenes with crying and fighting to get his brother to think Tan is a sincere fool, who only wants a girl, and not daddy's company. Then he (Tan) takes over the Empire, gives half to his abused mother, while buying that Dream Catchers store for Eun Sang. There WAS For Lease sign on the window in this episode, if you noticed. Is that too much to ask of an eighteen years old boy?! The writer obviously doesn't like'em poor. So why not make him truly rich and a bit evil at the end?

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I'm a bit sad that this drama is ending so soon but I like that my other Oppa is replacing my present Oppa.
I loved this episode. Tan and Eun-sang continue to slay me with their interactions. The running around they both did, trying to run away from each other then going oh screw it and running back to each other was so adorably done I think I almost cried.
Kim Woo-bin, I may not have gotten why so many girls like you, but your ability to make my burning hate for Young-do turn into sympathy is really something, I now fully acknowledge your acting skills.
Won. Finally, you step up and do your duty as a big brother, and not a moment too soon. It makes sense that now was the time he chose to take charge. Tan's dad is a grade A jerk-face, he wouldn't listen to his mom, who is as much a slave to dad as Tan himself is, and there's no Eun-sang to reign him in. Although, I do admit that scene between Hyun-joo and Won, random and a little bit awkward to see.
Bo-na and Chan-young continue to be adorable as ever and Hyo-shin such a good friend to Tan. I love Ki-ae finally taking a chance to escape her gilded cage, now to find Ajhumma and start their own sismance.
And finally, hurray for Tan getting a decent hair-do and normal looking clothes. I'm going to miss this drama when it's over.

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"Kim Woo-bin, I may not have gotten why so many girls like you, but your ability to make my burning hate for Young-do turn into sympathy is really something, I now fully acknowledge your acting skills."

Isn't that the truth? I can't stand abusive characters, which is what he definitely was at first, and I don't like dramas whitewashing abusive behavior. But KWB is so good that his transformation really seems believable. I think he'll have a great career - I can't wait to see him in "Friends 2."

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"Won: I’m still not sure how he went from being Tan’s enemy to not only acting as a true brother, but playing Cupid for him as well. Still, it was nice, so I’ll take it. LOL at that scene of him and HJ in the bed fully clothed. I’m not saying to be naked, but then why have them in the bed at all?"

How did they even end up in bed in the first place? Maybe I'm experiencing a bit of the old K-drama amnesia, but one minute, Won is telling HJ to wait for him; the next minute, they're having a pajama party? Do all of those "deals" the girls made with Bad Daddy suddenly take on no meaning in this episode just because? Hmmm. . .

I am also confused as to what caused the change in Won's character. Yes, it turns out Bad Daddy intended him to retain the power in Jeguk after all, but why the sudden growth of a heart towards his brother? The sudden coziness with estranged girlfriend he failed to stand up for in the first place?

Don't get me wrong -- it was a pleasure to see Choi Jin-hyuk have a little bit more to do onscreen in this show, for a change, but I guess asking for any character motivation to make the slightest bit of sense in this show is completely out of the question by now. :P

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I think Won being in bed with HJ is a surprise, but not that improbable because he lives in a hotel room. She did feed him jook in the room when he pretented to be sick. He complains that she never let him up to her bedroom when he caught HJ with Yoon. But I think the changed attitude comes when he asks her to wait for him outside of her place, he hugs her, and she also returns the hug as the camera pulls away.

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What? Don't tell me you don't know that they're sleeping together?!!^^ They have had a secret relationship all those years!! We seldom see that in Korean dramas so I'm glad that this drama shows that even though you're not married, you can still have a relationship even if you see each other in secret. Even if Dad forbids them to see each other, it doesn't mean they're going to stop seeing each other.. I think Kim Won needs Hyun Joo a lot! He needs someone he can trust and rely on and the scene in bed was such a lovely, intimate scene!!! I loved it a lot and it made me swoon a lot!!^^how he strokes her cheek!!! for me this scene and the conversation they're having show very well how much they love each other and their level of intimacy! Kim Won is human, a regular guy, so of course, they sleep together from time to time! oh no,, that wasn't awkward for me at all, that was a sweet scene!!

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I agree-so sweet and full of love.

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Ask a K-Drama writer to make sense? That is just too much...

Although School 2013 stood out in that it actually did make sense for streaks of 3 or 4 episodes.

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I have watched projects with the following male kdrama actors: Lee Min-Ho, Yoon Si-Yoon, Lee Jong-Suk, Kim Woo-Bin, Jang Geun-Suk, Yong Joon-Hyung, Kim Jae-Wook, Kang Ha-Neul, Kim Ji Hoon, Lee Jun-Ki, Lee Seung-Ki, So Ji-Sub, Choi Jin-Hyuk, Jung Kyung-Ho, Daniel Choi, Park Shi-Hoo, and Hyun-Bin.

Likewise, I have watched projects with the following female kdrama actresses: Park Shin-Hye, Yoon Eun-Hye, Lee Da-Hae, Jang Na-Ra, Ha Yeon-Soo, Gong Hyo-Jin, and Kim So Yeon.

With this list, I realized that I am familiar with more of the male kdrama actors than the female actresses.

Heirs is a drama full of and mostly about teenage characters. Are there any other female actresses that you can think of or imagine playing the character Cha Eun-Sang?

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But its her that Lee Min Ho wants to have a passionate deep French Kiss. So he suggested to KES.

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My exposure to female kdrama actresses is limited. I need more names to equal or rival the list of male names of kdrama actors.

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Heh. My exposure to Kdramas is limitless, and I still don't remember most of the actors' names. Be it male or female. I only remember faces and ALL the dramas they were in. :-)

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Unfortunately, I read her father said in an interview, he did not like LMH and didn't want to see her in a deep passionate kiss with LMH. So she was too intimidated to do it well. I hate it when parents get that far into their adult childrens' lives.

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This is filial duty gone wrong.

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Really? Where did you see that?

You wonder if that's why she's terrible in all her other kissing scenes...

What a shame.

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Is there a link to this interview, I would love to read it.

If PSH's father had made such claims against LMH then I would consider PSH's father to be insensitive & tactless. He should not have gotten all personal; his daughter IS an actress & as an actress she has to be professional and not allow personal / family obligations get in her way.

If PSH is really a filial daughter then she should not have agreed to work with LMH in the first place. Such selfish and conditional stand regarding intimacy/ kissing in acting would only affect the co-stars performance. Did she actually think that if she continues to show an uncomfortable face then it would justify that she didn't 'enjoy' such intimacy or physical contact hence respecting her father's wishes? How ridiculous.

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This is a joke, right?

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really,where u get that info?wow...

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Jung Eun Ji maybe? At least she looks like she's in high school. Although I wouldn't sentence her to such a horribly written character. No one deserves to play Eun-sang because that she has got to be my biggest complaint in this drama - and that is saying A LOT given my uncountable issues with heirs.

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There are not a lot of young actresses in dramaland these days thats why younger man are always paired up with older woman and why idols keep getting cast.

Lee Yoo Bi, Kim Ji Won, Kim So Eun are a few underrated young actresses that should be given more chances for larger roles in dramas.

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I second the Lee Yoo Bi nomination. She rocked it in Gu Family Book, she did a much, much better job than Suzy (who had all of the idol hype going for her). Give that girl some more work!

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What? Nothing with Bae Susy in it yet? Then you haven't seen "Gu Family Book"? Should be next on your list.

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I wouldn't condemn anyone to enduring Suzy's vacant, wooden 'acting'.

The only actress worth watching in Gu Family Book is Lee Yubi, and to a lesser extent Lee Yeon-hee in episode 1.

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My poor Young Do!!! He needs a hug (from me perhaps)!

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Two words: FACE. PALM. =.=;

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I couldn't agree more x)

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I literally threw my hands up in the air during the "reunion" scene. *shakes head*

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Okay. Eun sang is probably the worst character in this drama. And that is just something. Apparently all she needed was encouragement from Won, a practically a stranger, to do a complete u-turn. God help me, I don't understand why I keep watching. But I do.

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I agree that her return to KT felt a little rushed. Almost like we missed a key moment or scene or something.

However (I like to play devil's advocate cause I think this writer is intelligent) from the writer's POV, I guess it makes a little sense that ES felt less scared and more courageous with Won now protecting her and encouraging the relationship. Won is no slacker himself. He is also somewhat powerful as the President of the company.

So with Won AND KT working to protect her, it makes a lil sense.

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Cha Eun Sang in real life will be the "future mistress". Look innocent and pure in high school, but vulnerable to become a "concubine".

Park Shin Hye and Lee Min Ho should do a part 2 of Heirs - The Concubine, the Movie.

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Nah I think Tan's mom should star, I'd totally watch.

But the only ending that would satisfy me is if she teams up with the Wife and ES's mum to take down tans evil father...

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youngdo and eunsang's mom
youngdo and tan's mom
and youngdo imagining his own mother had me tearing in a public library. One of the few times I've felt genuine emotional pull for heirs which was all eye candy and mindless entertainment until now
kim woobin was so great this episode all the applause for him

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Can I say I like Young Do MUCH more than Kim Tan now? I don't know what's the whole point of Kim Eun Sook writing this drama. And then getting LMH to act as Kim Tan. It's like she has some agenda against LM because Kim Tan is so much more badly written than Young Do.

I don't buy the romance between Tan and Eun Sang. The passing of time in this drama is so random and everything seems like they happened within days, instead of the supposed two seasons had passed.

Episode 17 totally feels like a filler JUST so episode 18 can roll around.

Heirs is really one of those very rare dramas where the OTP totally doesn't deserve any attention, but the supporting cast grabs all the love.

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Yes she hates LMH. Otherwise who would waste such talent.

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I have never cared for KT, my dislike varies from episode to episode, but for me he has never crossed the line to the plus side.

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I wrote a tumblr post about Kim Tan, "Ten Things I Hate About You." I had to stop at 11.

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I would like to be linked to your post. Something tells me I'll find vicarious enjoyment in it.

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Somehow there wasn't any 'Reply' button next to the post where you've mentioned the link, I think even this site does not want me to add more redundant comments on comments. :D

That apart, it's really sweet. And to mark how the character as well as Lee Min Ho's pouts have grown on me, I read each one of your points and thought, 'yes, that's right, but he looks cute doing it.' Hehe.

I might be in the minority here, but I actually liked his fluffy angora sweater. However, that does not prevent me from laughing like a maniac at all these angora sweater jokes.

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I dislike his character kim tan too, but as Lee Min Ho an actor I like him, so I think the problem lies with the writer for writing bad character like that...LMH tried his best but what more can u do if you're given this kind of roles...

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I think you're absolutely right on that one. Kim Tan's character seems much more like an excuse than anything else. I get it that this wasn't supposed to be the most well-written drama of the year, but dunno...she could have tried.

And the romance does not hold at all. I find the leads engaging to watch, I sometimes empathise with them, but their relationship has no real basis. The only way a person can fall that quickly in love is if there is only a physical attraction, and nothing more. Pity and lust, that's it. But I've read on Dramafever that falling-in-love-at-first-sight is an acknowledged k-drama trope, so I'm going to let this go, however unwillingly.

Post-13, the pace and writing had picked up, but with 17 et al, I believe it's gone back into its corner.

Even though I'm replying to your comment, bishbash, let me add this one original observation: my point of contention with the very last moments of episode 18. Was this really necessary? The 'glamification' of Kim Tan and Eun Sang? Did no one else have any problems with it? It alienated me more than anything else on this show. What they accomplished was making Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye of the characters.

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No, it wasn't necessary imo. Though I think the writer THINKS its necessary because it IS a Candy story, so it is necessary in her head to "glamify" Eun Sang, especially. Because who knows, it may be the last chance to give Eun Sang a makeover.

I think I get what you want to say. It's just like the many blatant product placements that had peppered throughout this drama. Lest we forget they're Lee! Min! Ho! and Park! Shin! Hye!. I have nothing against this two as actor and actress though.

I have way too many issues with this drama that I don't even know where to start with.

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So much love for Bona and Eunsang. That hug was just adorable haha. Lee Bona went from hating Eunsang, to protecting her secret, to becoming her saviour when she got kicked out, and now her biffel. Love these two. #OTP

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Oh my... I can bear watching Secret Garden, but even reading Heirs' drama recaps makes me cringe (have no idea what range of shrinking I'll have when I actually watch it). Thanks to Javabeans and girlfriday for making the cringe-worthy drama becomes less-cringe-worthy (even only for a portion)

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Thank GOD I wasn't the only one thinking this. I'm barely holding on only because of Javabeans and girlfriday. And it's mostly because of their amusing/hilarious comments x)

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Me too. I'm only still watching this terrible mess in order to read the recap by dramabeans. Oh dear, this drama has so many issues!!

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While waiting for Heirs ep 17/18 to surface, I looked at "Secret Garden & Scent of a woman" Now to veer of topic for a minute. Alot of people were commenting about the kiss/romantic scenes in Heirs and how lackluster it was. I got a point of reference with these dramas. HOT KISSING SCENES. I could feel the passion they were conveying. Nicely done. Now back to Heirs, all I can say is "what you see is what you get as per the director vision. on this one in my opinion not yet. But with a WHOPPING 2 episodes left........lmao!!

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Today is Non-Friend day,love that sentence?

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I don't watch Heirs but I like to read Dramabeans final comments.

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glad to see i'm not the only one. :)

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I think we may be legion here at DB. I just CANNOT with this show but I LOVE DB commentary.

Thank goodness for answer me 1994, otherwise I would have been in drama drought. (team chilbong!)

I say to you LMH - just give us what we want and make CITY HUNTER 2 already. This high school drivel is beneath your considerable talents. And what a waste of daddy gumiho.

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This episode had three really nice, and emotional scenes IMO.

1. Young Do eating the food Eun-Sang's mother made him. It was just really touching and sad.

2. Young Do closing the Eun Sang chapter of his life with the noodles. As long as she had that debt, he could always use the excuse that he needed to see her. Now that that's done, I think he might be ready to move on with his life, well soon. It is sad he wasn't like this in the beginning, but I think the fact that it is too late makes it more impacting.

3. Tan's mother taking off her jewelry and leaving Daddy. I'm really happy she decided to do that, even if it's hard.

I think that something the show missed, however, is why Tan likes Eun Sang so much. We know why she likes him, why Young Do likes her, but not so much Tan, at least not why so intensely.

Bittersweet overall, but it had some nice, touching moments.

Oh and Park Shinye looks great in that dress! I just wish her hair was tied up like in one of the posters.

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I'd put Young do running to find Tan about his mother scene at the top as well. Gosh YD really makes this show for me. I think the indifferent "walking past each other" scene between him and KT makes sense to me. I mean they both know they have a not so comfortable history together, and now they both love the same girl. I get that they might not want to be too close for comfort. Besides, they're friends when it counts anyway as GF has mentioned.
Anyway about how KT's intense feelings for ES came to be, wasn't it that moment sometime during the first few eps, she was looking outside in the pool area that morning. He saw her and that moment might've been it for him. Also i kind of sensed that he was drawn to her pain (sister/mom/poverty/lost cause problems) and that kept him interested. This frustrates me knowing that pain was what drew the OTP together, but then our heroine couldn't have been drawn to YD's pain too? C'mon even Jan Di got past Jun Pyo's bullying. I guess KT just got to her first. Just frustrating. I've never felt the impulse to hate on YD's character even from way back. I knew he was gonna grow on me and now I can't stop whining about how this isn't his show. I've never seen any of Kim Woo Bin's shows before, and so now I love him shamelessly.

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Well said Momoi and Lizzie. I really enjoyed Young Do's scenes in this episode too: when he eats at Eun Sang's and when he runs to find Kim Tan for KT's mom. So well done! The only rare moments this drama can provoke any sympathy. Kim Woo Bin's acting is great.

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Well Eun Sang did say that it's bad she didn't know that Young Do was also a good guy at first. Things may have turned out differently.

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Yes, please, if the writer actually make ES end up being with YD, that would actually reverse all of my feelings about this show. I would actually LOVE it! Can we actually hope for that? In a million years?

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LOL I hadn't known but this drama is on a rush schedule apparently. I saw them film the scene where Young Do remembers the day his mom left and Tan's mom leaving in the car at a middle school in my neighborhood yesterday. From a distance I had only scene Kim Woo Bin open and close the car door 15 times but little did I know that it would air that very night. He looked very tired, but was extremely handsome. Sorry for blabbing on, but it was actually really exciting to see a drama filming near my neighborhood.

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Live-shoots are like death for actors. I keep noticing how red everyone's eyes are in these recent episodes -- yes, because everyone's crying incessantly, but more because everyone's getting zero sleep. Even Dad's eyes are blood-red (http://i1192.photobucket.com/albums/aa324/girlfridaydb/drama/2013/heirs/heirs18/heirs18-00130.jpg).

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@Moimoi, thanks for the BTS info! I can't believe they are still reshooting scenes to air the same night. That's pretty cray.

Korean drama schedules are tough. I noticed LMH seemed to have lost a lot of weight in this episode. PSH looked a bit slimmer too.

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Kind of scary that they are shooting almost up to air time. That might be why some scenes look so rushed and not quite "done".

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That's why suddenly the exterior of the school is so different from the previous episodes. They didn't have time to shoot the scenes at the original locations. I think that also contributes to the random feel these last few episodes.

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That is also why they haven't had previews on Thursday nights the last few weeks, they haven't filmed the next 2 episodes yet.

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Anthony from The King of Dramas wrote the textbook on live-shooting a drama.

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I miss Anthony. :(

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The scene with Young Do and Eun Sang's mom was so moving. It made you see how deeply the loss of his own mother has affected him. The scene that tells you that he no longer holds Kim Tan responsible for the fact that he missed seeing his mom before she disappeared is when he's confronted with making the decision whether or not to bring KT to see his own fleeing mother. I actually cheered for the YD who allowed his decent side to emerge. Kim Woo bin: such an amazing actor.

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It is really Young do's episode but a really really sad episode for him, KWB is really good actor i really felt for him even just reading the recap especially the scene with ES mom, he is so sweet to her and in the snack shop and his realization about his wronged life it is just really sad. i wish in his next drama he will finally get the girl.

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KT's and ES's bipolarity make my head hurt. One day they are brave, the next they are a mess, then they get brave again, then a mess and so on and on and on. And things around them are exactly the same while this is going on. If KT ends up poor in order to be with ES then I will believe his feelings and will love him for it. Otherwise I can't care anymore. And I tried to care, I really did.

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I think it is all the whiplash that pretty much ruined a lot of this drama for me. It was like each day the writer woke up with a different idea, so they would get back or break up again, depending on if it was an odd or even day.

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I'll prescribe Lithium for them

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Exactly! My biggest problem with this drama is that I can't feel much sympathy with main couple. What they've been doing so far is just pushing and pulling each other. They even didn't have much deep time/or history together. So even they act like they can't live without each other, I can't feel sorry for them.

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Finally after 18 years or 18 episodes Won step up and become a brother to Tan and KT's finally realizing how evil evil daddy is. It really took them so long to grow up.

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Who's more evil? Kim Tan's Daddy Douche Bag or Young Do's? Right now, I'd say Tan's by a nose because at least Young Do's dad acknowledges that, where women are concerned, he has no moral standing by which to dictate to his son whom he may or may not date. Tan's father actually has the nerve to see himself as "better" than the concubine he knocked up and then kept under his thumb for almost twenty years. I absolutely hate that man.

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I don't know what the big deal is about taking Kim Tan's mom to the airport. Can they really get her to board the plane against her will? Even if somebody goes with her, can't she get to security and ask for help? At least she can shout "I have a bomb!" a couple of times. That will keep her grounded. And if the gets to the US, so what? All she has to do is say that she has to go back to Korea to get her GED. The finals excuse worked for Eung-sang, and Won seemed to think that made her untouchable. Ha! This drama does not make any sense.

As hard it is for me to admit, I'm enjoying Pretty Man more, even though I didn't have high hopes for that drama. It's lighthearted and fun.

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I find those type of "I am the chairman, I can do anything I want" scenes like that extremely frakking annoying, and about as realistic as a zombie tooth fairy. And instead of saying that she has bomb, start screaming that the bodyguards have guns and bombs and are kidnapping her.

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Lol! Great, now I'm picturing a tiny zombie with wings, wearing a wilted flower headdress, holding a skull headed wand.

Totally agree about the airport. How do you force someone on a plane?

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Kim Woo Bin ..........he nailed it such a good actor , best well dressed , classy , hot and sexy . Hope he will have a lead role for the next drama.

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Totally agree. I didn't like him at first but now, I wish he had someone who loved him back. Hoping his mom will appear before it's over. CYD should star in Heirs 2, don't you think?

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Yes, hope his mom will be back. But, as much as we want to see KWB in a leading role in the next drama I don't think we want to have Heirs 2 at all, do we?

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Hello no...we do not.

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YD looks like he is headed for the catwalk in every scene. It's because KWB is a professional model so I think it will be unfair to compare him to the other guys but damn if he hasn't stole my attention away from the others. Maybe if the story was more solid I wouldn't be noticing too much but with not much plot to sustain whatever is going in the episode I find myself hoping for more YD every time. I read an interview where he said that due to his modeling background he is very anal about the way he is styled. That's probably why his outfits are cooler than LMH's, he will probably throw a fit if they tried to dress him in the fuzzy pink sweater.

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LOL! Well, I certainly am glad that he gets to put a stop to any horrible stylings.

Btw, about YD looking like he's headed for the catwalk in every scene....well, Woo Bin said in an interview that he unconsciously does the catwalk when he's shooting his dramas and gets told off for doing that. So yeah, because of his modelling career, his body reacts that way without him even thinking about it.

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It was like, really? Wow! That is all?

To think despite all the pitifulness of KT and ES, I get a choked up only when YD is sad. And roll my eyes whenever ES cries and KT pouts.

Sigh...

How come there are no good dramas this fall?

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try reply/ answer me 1994.
so much better than heirs trainwreck

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Try pretty man its sooo amazing n hopefully soon man from another star is coming so look out 4 tht 1 ?

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Pretty Man is delightfully funny. So refreshing. I had no idea IU could act so well and be so genuine and her chemistry with her costars is priceless - has me in stitches most of the time.

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Pretty Man is actually better than I expected. Not deep, but funny and fun. Unlike Heirs, it does not pretend to be deep or thoughtful - what you see is what you get. And oh yeah, as of ep5 I don't think anyone has cried or stared, though IU tends to drool a bit.

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Yes I am also having so much fun with Pretty Man!! Things happen and people have personalities.

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Yes, it's better than I expected too. but a little hectic-we already see the triangle, don't see the quadrangle yet. Looking forward to when it slows down (hopefully) to give us some real romance.

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I can't wait to see how this hot mess ends next week and for You From Another Star to premiere. I think Heirs might break 30% ratings with the finale. It's crazy!

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Wow, thirty percent among the Korean viewing audience? That's impressive given where this drama's ratings started. I must say that have agreed with virtually every criticism of Heirs put forth here at DB. Nonetheless, it's exerted a strange hold on me almost from the start. I honestly can't explain it, other than the saying that the whole so greater than the sum of its parts. Has it been so roundly criticized in Korea also?

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Valleydale, you've summed it up for me, too. I've agreed with all the criticisms I've read here, and could add a few more of my own, and yet...I'm all 'is it up yet???' every Wed & Thurs, lately. I think it's the TERRIFIC actors (even PSH does not irritate me as much as heretofore ;), but also the deep true power of Kdrama themes and style--I wish I could express it better.

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I think it's mostly LMH and KWB's fangirls (basically high schoolers and college students) who are watching the drama...... Most older adults that I've come across consider this show cheesy and unrealistic.

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yeah I think this drama was aimed towards younger audiences but still I don't know what age groups watch this show in korea, I think older audiences watch it too because I know there are a lot of ajhumma lee min ho fansit doesn't reach 30% ratings just by high schoolers and college students watching it...

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Despite all the buildup for the big party, I am pretty much expecting a total fizzle for the grand finale. I expect a bit of screaming, but after that everyone will turn into nice guys and live happily. Except that the chairman will get amnesia.

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I only came here to read the GF or reader comments, gave up this drama since few episodes back..
super glad my forever favourite character Young Do is all grown up, I am so proud of him!

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I almost started crying as Young Do tore through the school looking for Tan. I could feel his desperation followed by relief when he found him and sent him off in his car. And Mom’s home-cooked meal for him. *tears*

I feel bad seeing Tan so gullible believing the world is peachy keen again as soon as Eun Sang reappeared in his life because you can’t trust a word she says. Firsthand experience should have taught him that she always goes back on her word.

Who is this Won and what has he done with the real Won? This overnight change is too sudden, it’s unbelievable and makes me slightly uncomfortable. Suddenly caring about Tan and going around calling him his dongsaeng. Since when did Won and Hyun Joo get back together? Let me guess, Won will be taking Hyun Joo to Tan’s birthday extravaganza?

LOL at Myung Soo. No one is cheating off of you, Mr. 99th Place.

Thanks for the recap, girlfriday!

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I say again, I wish this drama would have a Dawson's Creek ending. Eun Sang can have her youthful romance with Kim Tan, but in the future, after he works out his issues, it would be great if she ended up with Young-Do. I'm just going to imagine it happens that way.

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Yes! This episode hit all the right notes! Phew! I quite enjoyed it. Hopefully, now that we've got 2 episodes left, this drama will hit all the right notes right through to the end.

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Thanks for the recap.
I like YD in this episode too.

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Thank you for sticking with it GF and JB!

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Oh yeah question: anyone know what the drama they previewed at the end was? I think it's airing on the 18th on SBS.

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You From Another Star staring Kim Soo Hyun and Jeon Ji Hyun. I can't wait! Hoping it will be my next crack drama.

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thanks! Looks funny.

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I thought I read somewhere it's premiering on 25th?

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Okay am I the only one hoping for a bit of an extension for this drama.

I know we have only 2 episodes left, but it seems that the last few have finally picked up some steam and gotten more interesting. I still have more questions and I think too many things have been left unexplained up to this point for them to be resolved by next week.

Case in point:

1) YD's mother left, well what happened to her and why hasn't she kept in touch?

2) Why was KT exiled to America 3 yrs ago, what was the catalyst to that?

3) Why did all the kids turn against KT when he went to America. YD was the only one who knew about his birth secret and in his mind had a reason to hate KT.

4) How did Won and the tutor get together and start their relationship?

These are just a few of the things that happened or talked about but never fully explained and I'm sorry I like closure!

No way any writer can answer all this stuff in two episodes.

So even though I know it's not a popular opinion I vote for at least a 2 episode extension. At least show us what KT & ES' s relationship would be like through college!!

Has anyone heard any definitive news about a possible extension for this show??

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YD's mother is a mystery, for sure. I thought the black bean noodles scene with YD and ES represented completion for YD in that ES kept her promise to eat (what turned out to be) a "last" of "farewell" meal together, unlike the "last" meal he did not eat with his mother. Also, there was the more obvious scene where YD made sure that Tan and his mother did not get separated like he did from his mother. But we still wonder, what did happen to YD's mother that she left (was forced to leave??)??

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2) KT was exiled to America partly due to him not really wanting to play any part the whole Jeguk power play, partly due to Won telling him to go, partly because he loves his family and thought this would be a good solution to prevent it from fully tearing itself apart, also the premature realisation that nothing he did would be seen as an act independent of the world he was born into.

3) I don't think all the kids turned against KT, there was never any explicit hostility shown towards him when he returned (other than from YD). I think it's more like, many resent him for his high status (derived from the family he comes from), and some might have 'turned against him' (insofar as the fact that he doesn't seem to have any genuine friends outside of HS/MS/BN) either due to the fact that he was just as much a bully in the past as YD or because 3 years is a long time to stay away, and a lot of things change, tides have turned, etc.

4) Since HJ the tutor was also a charity case when she used to attend Jeguk High, even though there's probably an age gape of 1-4 years between her and Won, they probably met in high school, or something. Also I think it was mentioned previously that she was an orphan? So perhaps she grew up with the Chairman's backing, which might have led to the circumstances in which she could have met Won.

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I think chairman dad explained to Won in an early episode that he sent Tan to America for 3 years because he knew Won was jealous and hated Tan and his mother and he did it to mollify Won. but then he said 3 years was long enough and Won should get over it.

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Thanks for your response.

3--I was thinking of the early episode scene in the studio with Bo Na/MS/YD were hanging out and Bo Na talks about Rachel going to the States to see KT.

She said (paraphrasing here) something to the effect you can't be on KT's side, you hate him too. What made Bo Na hate KT? The arranged engagement with Rachel, which meant he broke up with her in order to fulfill his father's needs?

MS in another episode said something also about how YD didn't see KT off when he left (I understand why he didn't MOM/illegitimate issues) but it's implied that maybe only him and HS saw him off, no one else. The guy was leaving the country into exile, and I know he was a bully, but given all the ass kissing that goes on @ that school based on how rich you are I can't imagine KT was not given a send off to equal HS's college exam cheering.

Also can anyway explain to me why KT said to Rachel when she visited him in CA "I got engaged now so I wouldn't have to marry you later." HUH??? How does any engagement postpone a marriage? Isn't it usually the precursor?

4--If there is an age gap between Won & the tutor then they couldn't have met in HS and we've already been told that they attended different colleges. (the scene between HS and her when she's inquiring as to what is going on with KT).

When exactly did they hook up? It seems Won has always been ambitious and his goal was running the company from the beginning. She's known that and accepted it, so they ran into each other on the street and he thought, pretty girl I'd like to date her and oh by the way comes to find out she's sponsored by his Dad?

Won's relationship with her was never fleshed out and the writer did a disservice to these characters. It would have been interesting to see the parallel of how these two brothers handle their love-lives.

In a lot of ways I think Tan is more mature than Won when it comes to love.
He's running towards it and fighting for it, while big bro is secretive and can't admit to anything other than giving her a necklace (big whoop), remember the confrontation scene with Daddy dearest in the library? He'd have been on ES's heels before she took one step out that door.

Since I don't live in Korea and don't really pay attention to who's writing what or what they're rep is. I had no feelings one way or the other about KES, but i have to say given we're 2 episodes from the ending, the writer left a lot on the table that she could have developed and made this drama so much more interesting.

I mean the English title is "HEIRS" right? Meaning more than one...So why do only KT's & YD's stories get the full treatment and HS's suicide back story, MS's partying, Rachel's Daddy issues and of course Won are left rotting at their feet?

This is what's wrong with having only ONE writer with ONE voice. She can't see and flesh out the others. Multiple writers are needed for an ensemble story such as this.

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I sincerely hope there is no extension, I would rather move on to the next show, which promises to be better. Too late to extend anyway, a lot of folks say they are shooting up to just hours before air time, so any rewrites now would bring it all crashing down.

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1. YD's mom just left. I don't think it was ever explained yet why and where she is that's why YD is also still wondering...so we all are wondering with him. But I'm sure it will be explained before the show comes to a close.

2. KT was sent to the US by Won. There was a scene in the first episode of Won telling him to go there and never come back. It was Won's growing fear of KT going against him when the time comes that prompted him to do that and KT had always loved and adored his brother he didn't say no.

3. I don't know about the kids resenting KT but when KT and YD were still friends, KT led the bullying in the school. He mentioned that a few times in the middle of the series. YD kinda took over that role. So kids had probably always feared him plus he was the son of the school's president whom everyone thought was his mom so he was sort of untouchable --- like him or not.

4.Won and teacher had always dated since the start of the show. They never explained much how but they were. Am not sure if it was in college that they met but teacher is also a charity product of Daddy Kim. We can do the math from there. They this "it's complicated" relationship.

I also feel like 2 more episodes would not be enough to end it all, although, I think they wasted a lot in episode 17. It was just one hour of music video. 17 and 18 could have been just one episode.

I feel like there are some things not quite explained either. Like how can ES all of a sudden just gather guts to stick it out with KT? I think there were some things not shown in 18 that will be shown in 19...to explain those changes in her decisions. Especially that for her to get her old life back, KT has to go back to the US since he made a deal with Won. Anyway...too many knots to untangle in just 2 episodes left. I am crossing my fingers for a very good finale. Phew.

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At this point I'm just hoping for a good ending. The way this drama has been written, I'm not holding out for explanations. Crossing Ts and dotting I(s) does not seem to be this writer's strong point. So I'm aiming low satisfaction-wise.

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I agree, there's a lot of things that remains to be explained in this drama but it looks like the audience are going be left filling in the blanks for themselves because I doubt the writers are going to do it .

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I think I heard an actor on Actors Studio saying that if you have a good script it's like your job is half done. I don't really have an opinion on LMH's acting but I think KT would be a hard role for anyone with writing like this.
I know Heirs is probably cosidered a success ratings-wise and money-wise but I can't help feeling like Heirs success=a blow for good drama making in Korea. :(

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1) I'm glad to see that everyone has been reconnected with their long-lost spine this episode.

2) I didn't get how the Chairman was planning to force Madam Han onto an airplane. I mean, he can have his goons drive her to the airport if he wants but why is she freaking out like that? She can walk right back out and they can't do a thing about it.

3) I hated Sociopath Young-do but at least he was interesting. Mopey Young-do is a total snoozefest. Obviously, Young-do is some kind of Korean Samson who's will to live is directly proportional to the slickness of his hair. Also, why cut Eun0sang off? I love them as friends. When will these spurned lovers learn that avoiding your crush will only keep them on a pedestal and make it impossible for you to move on. Plus, how you gonna avoid her when you go to the same school and you're well on your way to re-BFFing her boyfriend?

4) My favorite moment of the night was when everyone deserts the Chairman and he's all "I don't understand what's going on here." That's because you're a souless alien being of some sort, sir.

5) Maybe my heart is two-sizes too small but I physically roll my eyes and sigh heavily every time Eun-sang starts crying. They have overplayed their hand with all her tears. At this point I'm just like "This again?"

6) Tan is about the creepiest boyfriend ever. In earlier episodes, I thought it was cute the way he lurked on her facebook thingie. But all those pictures of her from behind, almost made my skin crawl. Not to mention silently following her from Seoul to her secret hideaway.

7) Speaking of which, I don't know if it was supposed to be funny but I laughed out loud when she chased him down only to tell him not to talk to her.

8) When Bona was reading Eunsang's facebook and trying to figure out why she was talking to herself I was silently cheering her on like "You can do it, girl, put it together..."

9) Speaking of Bona, that hug she gave Eunsang totally warmed my heart.

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also, 6 - God, i know, right? it was cute at first. but it isn't anymore. following her allll the way to her new home did not seem romantic to me at all. it seemed more like cause for concern... but I already knew that my ideas of what is appropriate &what is romantic to not match Kim Eun-sook's...

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Your (7) is the exact reason why this episode (along with 90% of this drama) is crap.

What's this he follows her, she knows, she hides and cries, and then changes her mind to go out and find him but can't, and then turns back home, and he appears out of nowhere. Does Tan has some invisibility cloak? It's so repetitive this hide-and-seek thing it's no longer laughable at the sheer absurdity of it.

And then she screams at him not to talk to her. This girl. Or rather Kim Eun Sook. I don't know why her notions of romantic love is so illogical.

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#1. - Yes, but for how long? Until daddy throws another tantrum?

#2. - that whole scene was just stupid, both the idea that he could force her to leave, and the idea that she had to get away RIGHT NOW.

#5. - Then my heart is even smaller, I just cringe at every cryfest.

#6. - yup, creepy. I almost expected him to break out a chainsaw.

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Another excellent episode. Is it weird that I'm feeling so sad knowing this time next week, it will be all over? :( Want to see the ending but don't want it to end.

Pros about this episode -

- A lot happened this episode. It almost felt like episode 20 or at least 19. Makes me wonder what is to come. Got a lot of resolutions (KT's Mom leaving Chairman, Won finally being a good big brother, ES coming back to KT & her old life, YD finding resolution with ES & his mom's departure).

- LOVED the scene between Won & Hyung. My pet peeve with some K-dramas is how they try to make the adult relationships too cookie cutter. Even though they were fully clothed, the scene with them in bed was very intimate, symbolic, and said a lot without saying much about their relationship & bond.

- Also loved the scene between YD & Rachel. I like the improved YD but I also enjoy the bad boy charm of the old YD. It was nice seeing a bit of the old YD return in that scene.

- And of course KT & ES coming back together was awesome.

Cons -

- ES's return to KT felt a bit rushed and sudden. With 2 episodes left, I'm not sure I want to see them break up again and get back together AGAIN. I would rather see them stick together & fight together. With so much happening in this episode, I can't help but wonder what else is there to cover? Without being repetitive?

- YD's scene with KT's mom also felt a bit cliche, but I get it. And what I love about this writer is even the "cliche" scenes still seem somewhat realistic and not as corny. It takes a good writer to do that.

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Our fearless writernime (KES), reminds me of the very little girl with the very little curl right in the middle of her forehead: when she was good, she was very very good, and when she was bad she was horrid!

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"Is it weird that I’m feeling so sad knowing this time next week, it will be all over? Want to see the ending but don’t want it to end."

If it's weird, I'll be strange along with you :). I know this drama has its faults, but for some reason it has really pulled me in and engaged me in a way other, perhaps more technically superior dramas haven't. I'll miss it when it ends.

I agree that this seemed more like an ending episode in a way - a lot of resolution. Which makes me nervous, like you, for the next two eps. I had the same exact same thought about not wanting to see yet more breaking up in episodes 19 and 20. If they have to face more obstacles, at least let them do it together.

I know it's cliche, but I'd enjoy a time jump rather than a rehash of same old, same old.

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Welcome to the 1% group. I don't know what's in store either, but I'll take all the fan-servicing I can get. Tan/Eun-sang, Chan-young/Bo-na, Ki-ae/Ajhumma, Young-do/some newly introduced hot chick who will match him fire for fire and raised eyebrow for raised eyebrow. Between Heirs and City Hall, I'm slowly becoming a fan of Kim Eun-sook. Manseh!

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Hey, I started that 1% thing :)!

I have to check out "City Hall," since everyone keeps talking about it. I know everyone loves to hate on KES here, but she must know what she's doing to some extent. Look at how many comments "Heirs" generates, even though most of them are negative. There must be something to it.

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You totally should. I saw Best Love first before City Hall, I hadn't seen any CSW dramas before that and I was totally blown away by his chemistry with GHJ but then I saw City Hall and then I was like I can't even pick who he has most chemistry with between GHJ and KSA. And KSA is so fabulous as Shin Mi-rae that I didn't get why people were complaining about her character. She made me laugh so hard and I cried too. It was amazing. She's the reason why I decided that no matter what anyone says, KES is just my type of writer. And you're right about the fact that people still manage to watch Heirs in spite of all its flaws is a testament to her ability.
Sorry about hijacking your 1% thing. :D

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@Rushie -That will be next on my list, then. Thanks for the recommendation. I was joking about the 1% thing. There are so few of us here that we have to stick together, LOL.

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Cha Yong Do, Jo Myung So, Lee Bona and Chan Yong...thank you for having them on the show love these character... Eun Sang and Kim Tan character (face palm) what happen to the story line....

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Wow I cried so much for Young Do this episode! I really wish the writers had given him this break through like 8 episodes ago, I wanted to route for him from the beginning but I knew he had so much more growth ahead of him. I really wish they gave the Young Do character more care, he is such a deep interesting character, this drama in general is a headache.
All I really want is for this drama to end simply, and I know it may seem hopeful but I want some sort of happiness for Young Do... I really hope he can find his mother, sometimes before you can give love you need to receive a little. Fighting Young Do!

Ps CANNOT WAIT for You from Another Star! woot!

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-I miss ES's relationship with KT's mom

-I think that the chairman has romantic feelings for the mistress deep deep way deep down in his heart or he wouldn't have made her go to the US or maybe I'm just wrong and he just doesn't want her to cause rumors although the truth is already out. And I also think he does care about his sons as he insist they all com back home ... although maybe I'm also wrong on that account

- It made me laugh when the chairman kept making surprised crazy eyes when ES or anyone else was talking about love and all. It's as if he's never heard about it

It was also funny that the only person who stayed with him was his wife/ex-wife

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It would be amazing if the writer starts writing a follow up for Young Do. I really want to see him happy, I don't think he's an asshole on purpose, it's just a very obvious defense mechanism.

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Oh and this whole I want to be with you/we shouldn't be together between KT and ES is getting annoying I mean you've had this debate since the beginning make a choice and stick with it.

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If you realize, episodes with odd numbers show Eun Sang leaving(or talking about leaving) whilst episodes with even numbers mean Eun Sang gets all daring and 'holds" Kim Tan's hands. Had i known writing a drama would be this easy, i'd be famous in Korea by now!!
Come on Heirs, SERIOUSLY- either make up or break up- FOR GOOD!!!
What a stupid stupid ride you're taking us on(i speak for us adults, not neccessarily high schoolers, are they actually enjoying this sort of romance??!)
I actually cant wait for you to end, coz i really need to move on. Never mind that your ending may suck(and be predictable) JUST END ALREADY!!!

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"i speak for us adults, not neccessarily high schoolers, are they actually enjoying this sort of romance??!"

You know? The most criticism I have seen towards Heirs is on this website. Other sites I've looked at are overwhelmingly positive.

I think part of the reason from what I've gathered is that the audience here tends to be older and we are too cynical to believe this love conquers it all and that the problems of these kids are all that devastating. I am not saying that this is true for everyone and that an older person can not love this show, there's examples here that they can and they do and that is great. That doesn't make us cynical people any more mature either because here we are discussing all the flaws of this high school show week after week.

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I think it might have more to do with the way teenagers read so much emotional weight into every. single. moment.

Seriously, when a 16-year-old girl looks at LMH playing out KT's suffering, longing looks, she's filling in what the writers left out with her teen angst emotion-writing. As a mom of two teenaged girls, I had forgotten how much they can fill the unsaid with meaning that isn't there, but is filling their own teen minds.

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Yeah, maybe if I was 15 I'd be feeling so sad for KT and finding him awesome but my 32 year old self finds him so needy that I want to punch him most of the time. There has been moments when I feel sorry for him but they don't last long.

Again, I think that most of the teenagers girls go to other websites where they fangirl together over how cute KT and ES are, as exemplified by the many one-liner comments such as "KT <3". Both lovers and haters of the show here in DB generally offer deeper commentary of the show. Some are deep, some are shallow, but I do not see many exclusively fangirl one-liners.

I am not dissing teenagers at all. I was there once and it was lots of fun. It's just a comment on the nature of this website and the critical tone of many of us. We've become blasé with age.

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I was never a teenager, or if I was I got amnesia and don't remember it.

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I have seen several negative actual reviews, including some on Korean sites. Some are hard to find because they are overwhelmed 100:1 by "best drama ever" and "I heart XXX" comments by fans.

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So...my comments: 1. So i cried like shit because the inevitable separation and i was fear about what would it takes to Kim tan to bring his girl back and they came back together like NOTHING HAPPENNED?????!!!! I WANT MY TEARS AND MY WORRIES BACK DAMN IT!!!! 2. SO FREAKING MAD WITH THIS PLOT AND THEN...i cried again watching Young do eating home cooking and imagining his mother 3. Kim tan' mom...so innocent and pure....remind me a little bit to Eun sang or whatever her name is...lets call her Fish-dead-kiss-girl...so...what is going to do Kim Tan to not repeat his mom's faith again? And it include his brother...t seems that the writer is delaying it that shock decision BUT is almost over and i can see nothing...so maybe the writer is JUST coming up with a idea...and so with the rest of this drama, and that would explain why they are so many empty and random situations and full of memories and blank and disturbing "following my lover" scenes. 3. That last scene....i have a Boys over flower deja vu...and it was soooo strong...that i thought ALLLLLMOOST PARADISEEEEE would come out and the actors were going to look at the camera and said: "YOU'VE PUNK"

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I know right...
I can't believe that she couldn't exploit LMH for starters. She managed to make everyone elses character a bit reactive rather than his. Who would want to just sit on a golden egg?? i am just so infuriated with the way his character was treated and underdeveloped... Even though BOF was nothing but mush, he was able to exhibit a range of emotions which sealed his persona. Here, WTF??? He moped around for the major part.. Thank God it was him moping, otherwise I would have thrown the remote already.
Though it's clearly a ratings hit and I am happy for him that way, I don't feel like I got to see LMH the way we were promised.. sigh.. lol .. soorry for ranting :P
KWB got a lot of out of this though.. Saving grace..

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Oh and if YD doesn't get his momma, I will need to pay the writer a visit... and maybe make her do a Mirae's Choice..

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You are so right s-lmh. I expected so much more. That's why I'm so disappointed.

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Yay I finally got to watch the first five episodes of heirs and it was not as bad as some people made it sound. Its not the best but its good and I mean really good. Lee min ho's english was that bad it was just so laughable and I wish they didn't show his face when he was saying long dialogues in english. It spoils his cool image for me cos I had to cover my yes just so I don't see his face, so I can keep on seeing him as perfect and cool, like the writer chose LMH to ridicule him(poor LMH) . And KWB is so hot and such a great actor and I giggle like an idiot even if he's a jerk and I am not a fan of his but now I am but I will always love LMH more. KMH is so cute with krystal, I just love their relationship. PSH is great too but I never really saw her as pretty until I watch HS and heirs but heirs really made realize just how pretty she is and which in my opinion is DAEBAK. CJH is looking good and no matter how mean he is, I can not not like him. After spending weeks of just reading recaps and glad that I finally got to watch the real thing and that its not as bad as people made it seem. And the ost is actually really good.

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I really really love LMH but him and speaking English, especially long dialogues is so uncool for real, I had to stop and laugh so much at his English . I watched Heirs 99% because he was in it so , but this wasn't such a bad drama only that it's so disappointing because it had so much potential to be better .

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Finally, payback from the last crap episode. All I can say that Won is love.

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I wish we had seen more of him throughout the drama.

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I think KES hates LMH. The way his character started out had so much potential but it ended up drab. Did she count on his looks to carry on a blank script or something? I love the guy but making his character suffers so much without a single shot at competence is such a waste of his talent. I hope he never does anything with this writer again.
Apart from that I loved MS acting during the exams. That was hilarious. And Bo Na lol.. And CY too! ES... errr... PMS much?
While the heirs ride was bizzare, Im angry that I am still looking forward to how it ends.... Curse you LMH and KWB.

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I think KES lost the plot somewhere around ep 6 thereabouts. The story went round and round in circles until finally, 11 episodes later, KT has his breakdown. That was when somebody woke her up to say: Hey, the drama's ending in 4 eps, we gotta do something!

Sigh. And to think that LMH had the KT character down pat. Perfect. But it was ruined by the pointless script!

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Seriously, KWB is the best thing in this drama. I know YD's early bullying alienated some viewers here, but he was always my favorite character because KWB brought such life to him and because without YD, this drama would be so boring.

It was sad how YD wrote "no" to his mom's "are you doing well?" and realized he had lived his life wrongly (because he was a bully, his classmates weren't willing to go find him despite his mom's requests, so YD got the news too late). I hope YD's scenes don't diminish after his moments of closure with ES and his mom.

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Thanks for the recap Girlfriday...

I must be the only one I know who ‘s happy that there was no time jump. I know people’s frustrations with the show and why they want a time jump but I detest time jumps and frankly think it is a cop out. Writers use it to get themselves out of the corner they backed themselves into. In the case of Heirs that would definitely have felt that way to me. A time jump, a mature and more powerful Tan who resolves everything. Where’s the fun in that? To me the point is to watch how Tan kneels and gets up again and again in order to to learn not to fall anymore and gets to be that powerful and determined man who can stand up to his father. Also timejumps either freeze the rest of the characters in time or have major changes to the we don’t get to see and I find these frustrating as well. So overall I was very happy there was no time jump and lengthy separation for our characters. The only kind of time jump I like is the fan service kind as in the end of Secret Garden and I won’t mind a repetition of that here. It would be fun to see our characters’ adult lives.

Besides that, although I never wanted Eun Sang with Young Do can I say that his scenes with Eun Sang affect me much more than Tan’s? Her farewell to him compared to Tan’s, the scene in which he saw her for the first time after she ran away compared to Tan’s, his “break up” with her compared to her break up with Tan... I don’t know whether it’s the writing or the acting, but that’s the way it is. I am enjoying the sad story of the second lead more than the story of the leads - and don’t get me wrong, I liked the lead couple’s story as well and never found Tan’s character boring or the couple a mismatch. And I never ever get the 2nd lead syndrome so I’m unable to solve this but as I said, that’s the way it is.

The problem is I’m too sad for Young Do. While everyone else is running towards their happy ending he is the one left behind, alone, loveless... I hope there will come a day when he can accept Eun Sang’s friendship and can handle being around them so he gets his best briend back as well. But as much as that, I want his mom back. Since we saw her in Tan’s flashbacks I’m almost sure she will come back and I think the note Young Do found was fairly recent. I almost waited for her to come out of the car that Young Do passed by when he left the noodle shop. And I loved his scene with Eun Sang’s mom. He needs motherly affection so much! And I’m sure it felt even more special coming from the mother of the girl he likes. I also found it funny that after Myung Soo’s comment that he’s losing weight Eun Sang’s mom fed him. I always wanted him to apologize to Tan’s mom for his behavior when he first went to Tan’s house next time he sees Tan’s mom and seeing him bowing to her and apologizing made my day.

I like that Won is finally getting Tan, helping him, being the brother he should have been all these years, and even wondering what would have happened to his relationship if he was more like Tan. I hope he takes a page out of Tan’s book and shows up at his birthday party with Hyun Joo on his arm (I have to say I had a minor shock seeing them in bed together. I think theirs is the worst written story of the show. I never understood whether they were even dating or not).

In the beginning I had thought Rahel would be paired with Young Do but there seems to be a sad ending for him, he is the only one left alone... But I’m enjoying the unexpected...

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totally agree with you. although the push and pull of KT and ES can be annoying, i think it works well for a drama. if they just end up sticking it out no matter what then there is no drama to tell anymore nor is there too if they decide to just break up...for good. there has to be that annoying push and pull and go and stay and come-don't-come thing going. i have seen too much drama of that sort in real life that what i see on that show just actually makes me laugh.

i also think Won and gf are weird. I think they are the ones who should make a decision. Weird. He goes out to meet a prospect wife because his dad told him so (hello? you're not 18) then he goes home to sleep with gf. Ugh. And gf says she understands. Ugh. She sure does love herself.

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RE: KT and ES relationship-some people have said they wanted Eun Sang to become a 'strong' woman and 'stand up' to KT instead of just being pushed around and doing everything he wants.
Womens' Lib much? I'm very much for real Womens' Lib, but I see Eun Sang as much different than others see her.
She has been cold and cruel to Kim Tan 80% or more of the time, and tease him with 'maybes', and how she likes him the rest of the time. This accounts for their long term crazy relationship. Kim Tan has gone straight ahead he loves her let's be together through 18 episodes.
In my estimation he has given her far too many chances to accept him and then immediately dump him. The fact that he was so long suffering through her push-pull BS just wore me out. I would never have predicted he would go 18 episodes putting up with that.
"We don't match" and "Your daddy said mean things to me" only goes so far, and as she said in her letter-this s**t went on for more than 2 seasons!

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I don't see how she is being pushed around either. She has been passive-aggressive. She just sits there doesn't say much but hardly ever does what she is told anyway. How many times has KT said that she tells him everything. She nods. But does she ever? Um...maybe in episode 18...and we only have 2 episodes to go...so...anyway...

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Hahaha-I noticed that-he orders her around all the time, but she just ignores him.

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"I am enjoying the sad story of the second lead more than the story of the leads – and don’t get me wrong, I liked the lead couple’s story as well and never found Tan’s character boring or the couple a mismatch. And I never ever get the 2nd lead syndrome so I’m unable to solve this..."

I'll solve it for you. You're noticing that Kim Woo Bin is a really good actor (the best out of the entire ensemble).

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It didn't take me that many episodes to figure that out. Though I have never watched him before, I liked him from the start as an actor, even when he was the "bad boy". I'm looking forward to his next role already. I hope it will be a good one and his talent won't be wasted.

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Where's another batch of passionate deep French kiss that I am waiting for from you Kim Tan? We haven't seen each other for one week and I told you I am leaving for good, but I changed my mind I want that deep kiss again. Ah! I may be pure and innocent, but I am not really - that's just my drama. I am the opposite.

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Aha Cha Eun Sang! So this is why you keep changing your mind about Kim Tan!

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Coming right up yobo~ this time I will not look like I am munching on your lips, I will actually munch on your lips. These fools keep overanalyzing our actions. Jeguk Shmeguk they are forgetting what motivates teenagers the most. Hormones.

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Seriously buys just kill your father, no one will care, no one will go to jail. Instead it will be declared an international holiday confetti will be thrown with parades and elephants, statues will be made of you, music and movie festivals will be launched poverty will end and the world will be a better place.

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Hahahaha! Okay that made me laugh out loud. It's a great solution Sajen, it would have saved 18 episodes of angst (them) and headdesk-ing (us)..

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You know what...I ended up shipping Bo-na and Eun Sang!!!

As much as I love Chan young, I could totally root for Bo-na and Eun Sang running off together.

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