Heirs: Episode 18
by girlfriday
Breaking up is hard to do, especially when you’re not really broken up. Our couple spends a lot of energy in being apart-but-together and together-but-apart, and I can’t even tell you which is worse. Let’s just say there are lots of tears. But in better news, when Tyrannical Daddy digs his heels in further, it actually spurs the people around him to make some changes. Let’s just hope they don’t get run out of town first.
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EPISODE 18 RECAP
We return in the midst of Tan’s meltdown, as he lies bloody and bruised in the street and tells Young-do he can take Eun-sang now. Oh are you done playing with that toy now? Young-do fumes: “Do you wanna die?” He challenges Tan’s right to rebel now, after what’s happened to Eun-sang because of him.
I do admit I see things from Young-do’s point of view in this conversation, because Tan made this mess and is now the one crying about it. Tan admits he can’t do it anymore, and Young-do just leaves him there to wallow a little more in his own self-loathing.
Tan trudges home to a shocked Madam Han and Won, and an annoyed Chairman Dad who shouts after him that his antics aren’t cute anymore. The fact that you thought they were before is disturbing.
Won comes up to his room to try and talk some sense into him, with reminders that no amount of kicking his feet will change the way their household goes ’round. He tries to order Tan to go to the hospital, which is sweet, but just gets met with more deadened stares.
Tan finally asks when he’ll get sent to America. ” I feel like I’m dying. Please just send me away. Please, save me hyung.” He breaks down, and Won is taken aback by his desperate tears.
When Won returns to the hotel, he runs into Young-do wearing a matching bloody lip, and stops him to ask if he’s the one who fought with Tan.
Young-do says he did the hitting and sighs that he forgot that he shouldn’t hit kids with hyungs. “I forgot Tan had one. He’s so good at hiding it.” Buuuurn.
Won just needles right back: “Looks like he doesn’t have any friends either.” He tells Young-do to put some ointment on his wounds, and heads upstairs.
Bo-na gets upset when she realizes Chan-young is staring at Eun-sang’s posts online, hoping for a clue on her whereabouts. The stream of messages back and forth between Tan and Eun-sang both posing as Eun-sang confuse her, because she’s delightfully simple like that.
Eun-sang sits at work staring at the same posts, and takes one last lingering look before deleting them. Tan sits up with a start as he watches every last picture and message disappear from the account before his very eyes.
Hyo-shin sighs to see Tan so troubled, and jokes that wearing his pain on his face is a little clichéd. He knows it won’t solve anything, but suggests that he should just go see Eun-sang or bring her here if he misses her that much, thinking it’ll at least lessen his suffering.
Young-do goes down to Eun-sang’s house for a visit…stalk…visit-stalk. There’s no sign of her, but just as he turns to go, he recognizes Mom, who remembers him too. She turns him away at first, but decides he’s probably harmless (if only you knew) and invites him inside.
She makes him food, which is probably the first home-cooked meal Young-do has had since he was a child, and he chokes back tears as he takes a bite. It’s pretty heartbreaking, and a scene like this makes me wish Young-do had been written this sympathetically from the start.
Mom asks if he’s good friends with Eun-sang, and he admits shyly that he likes her. But as soon as he says it out loud, he gets this sheepish smile on his face that he can’t hide. Mom tells him Eun-sang went to Seoul to wrap up some paperwork at school, but in reality she’s sitting in a room with Chairman Dad. Eep.
Chairman Dad accuses her of taking his money and then overstepping her bounds, feeling so high and mighty about it that he doesn’t even want her saying Tan’s name. What, is she going to taint it by uttering it with her drugstore-chapsticked lips? Good grief.
Eun-sang promises to repay the debts that Chairman Dad covered in her own time, but doesn’t apologize for liking Tan: “because that’s not wrong.” Good for you.
She tells him that she won’t see him anymore as promised, but there’s nothing the chairman can do to stop her from liking Tan. She asks not to be called here again.
She stops at the dreamcatcher store for one last look, which is exactly where Tan is headed on his zombie walk through town. He stops short at the sight of her, and they brace themselves and walk towards each other…
…And they each walk past without stopping. Tan keeps going for a minute until he finally breaks down and turns back. He runs to catch up with her, but she’s long gone.
He chases her down all the way to the bus, hopping on just as the doors close. Eun-sang is shocked to see him sitting across the aisle, but they just continue that way in silence, as he walks behind her all the way back to her house.
She doesn’t look back once, and he just watches from afar. This writer just reeeeeally likes this silent follow-walk motif for all her drama heroes.
It’s only when Eun-sang gets inside and closes the door that she lets herself cry, and she runs back outside. You two and your delayed reactions.
She runs down the road where he was shadowing her just moments ago, but he’s already gone. She trudges back down the empty street alone, but then there he is, waiting for her and asking why she came looking for him.
She tells him not to speak to her, or come to her, or do anything, but as soon as she turns her back he back-hugs her. “I can’t let you go, Cha Eun-sang. What are you going to do?”
She cries in his arms but then pulls away, as if to say she’ll be the first to let go then.
Meanwhile back at Chez Kim, Chairman Dad now turns the blame on Madam Han, accusing her low-class blood of being the reason Tan turned out this way. Wow. There are no words for how disgusting you are.
He says he should never have let her dream of reaching the executive suite so to speak, while she cries that he’s the one who brought her in this house and made the top floor her home. She goes up to her room in tears and takes off every piece of jewelry the chairman ever gave her.
Rachel and Young-do run into each other as they clean up their parents’ cancelled wedding arrangements, and joke amicably now about losing each other as siblings. Young-do still calls her sexy sister, which ew, but at least it won’t come true anymore?
He turns down her offer to share a friendly meal, opting instead to go to his favorite snack shop alone. And there among the scribbles on the wall, is a lone message from his mother: “Are you doing well…Young-do-ya?”
Won has Hyun-joo over for a sleepover and asks if she still doesn’t have a wish for her wishbone necklace. She thinks marriage would be a boring use for her wish, and he brings up his blind date, clearly feeling bad about it.
He asks her if she would’ve liked it better if he had been like Tan, but Hyun-joo says he couldn’t have been: “You’re someone who dreams of the highest seat, while Tan’s dream is for Eun-sang to be his entire world.”
She tells him to go after his dream, and promises to wave from down below. He says he’s working his way up now, and asks her to wait just a little longer.
Eun-sang reads a passage from a novel called Wonder Boy that gives her pause, and she prints out a copy to paste in the bookstore window. It reads:
Our two hands that clasped one other as we escaped past those people. Those bones, and muscles, and veins that gave their strength not to let go—that is almost all the love I know. What other love is there than that?
Other than the fact that I couldn’t let go of that hand.
The door opens and she gets a visitor she wasn’t expecting: Won walks into the bookstore, and though she assumes he’s here to rattle her cage, I think we’re in for a brotherly save.
She tells him defensively that she won’t see Tan anymore, but he says he’s here to fix the mistakes of his father, and asks what it is she wants for her life—to return to her old life, or to be next to Tan?
He suggests that if it’s hard to choose, maybe thinking of tomorrow instead of the long term is easier. He even offers her an excuse—final exams are coming up, and she can use that as a reason to return to school.
He tells her that sometimes when you can’t come up with the courage you need, leaning on a flimsy excuse is a start. Well, he ought to know about that.
Won returns to find Tan sitting in the wine cellar, and asks if he’s really going to do as ordered from now on. Tan agrees to leave for the States whenever hyung wants, but Won says the first thing he wants is for Tan to do well on his final exams. He adds a cute, “And if you’re in last place again…”
He hands Tan a little note left behind by Eun-sang, wedged in between bottles of Won’s favorite wine. He says it must’ve been a request for him to pass it along, but he didn’t really see the need to until now. He says he asked to be saved, so he’s doing it.
Tan sits in the cellar and reads the note as we see Past Eun-sang in the same frame as she writes it. She recalls the dreamlike mid-summer when they met: “The days were hot, the nights cold, and I liked you.”
She apologizes for lying to him and for running away. “My relief amidst misfortune, Kim Tan. I’m really disappearing like yesterday’s dream. It was nice to see you in my dream, Kim Tan.”
Early the next morning, Eun-sang puts on her uniform and returns to school. She sits down next to Tan and he’s so shocked he just stares and stares, finally asking, “Is it you?”
She says she won’t run away anymore and she’ll stay by his side, and he just envelops her in a hug.
So…is that the end of the separation segment? Not that I’m not happy about the misery being over; I’m just not sure what changed. Whatever, moving on.
Young-do hears that Eun-sang is back, and even though she greets him with a smile in the hallway, he walks past her without a word. W…hy?
It’s a happier reunion with Bo-na and Chan-young, and Bo-na is especially adorable with her I didn’t miss you at all! followed by a bear-hug. Cute.
Everyone takes finals and even Tan keeps his promise to hyung and tries. When he passes Young-do in the hall, the air is back to icy between them, and it’s another silent pass-by. I can never keep up with the randomness of you two and your up and down relationship, so I’m just going to go with, Today Is Not-Friends Day.
Young-do bursts into the broadcast room and tells Eun-sang he knows what debt-collectors must feel like now, and asks why she keeps making him ask about the debt she owes him. So they finally go get those noodles she promised forever ago.
He takes one bite and asks why she came back—if she’s really going to fight this fight. She says she wants to try, and he takes it in silently, and then tells her to give up if it gets too hard, that way he can say “I told you so.”
He tells her not to talk to him anymore, and she asks if they can’t be friends. Young-do: “No. You were a woman to me from the start, and you’re a woman to me now. And from now on, my first love. If we see each other, let’s not say hello. Let’s not ask how we’re doing. Even after a long time passes, let’s not smile and pretend to reminisce about how we were back then.”
And with that, he tells her she can pay for the noodles and walks out. Aw, poor Young-do. At least you learned how to be sincere.
Eun-sang tells Bo-na she’s sleeping elsewhere tonight, and elsewhere turns out to be Myung-soo’s studio with Tan.
He tells her that he likes her, that he missed her, and that he felt like he was going to die, and that he swore to himself that he’d never laugh again and never fall in love again. “So don’t ever throw me away again, Cha Eun-sang.”
She reaches over for his hand and they sit there holding hands and smiling.
In the morning he grumps that all she did was study all night, and sighs that he hates the fact that they’re underage. The first reason is that everything he does ends up looking like an adolescent tantrum to the outside world, and the second reason is one she doesn’t let him say because it’s certainly naughty. Let him say it!
Madam Han calls to say vaguely that she might not be home when he gets there after school, which Tan just takes as her going out for the evening. But we see that she’s packing a bag.
She goes downstairs to tell Chairman Dad that she’s going to leave him, which he finds absurd. But she’s prepared to go if it means giving Tan what he wants, and heads for the door. Leaving isn’t as easy as she imagined though, because Chairman Dad tells her she’ll be going to the States to ride out whatever angst she’s feeling, making it clear she’ll never be truly free of him.
She panics as his minions load up the car with her suitcases, and grabs a passing taxi to make a run for it. She goes to Tan’s school and happens to see Young-do out in the street, and begs him to find Tan for her.
It’s eerily similar to the moment when Young-do’s mom came looking for him, and he puts her in his car and goes running to find Tan. Aw, you really are friends when it counts.
Thankfully he finds Tan right away and tells him to hurry, and sends them both off in his car just in time to avoid being seen by Chairman Dad’s minions. As Young-do stands in the street, he envisions his mother asking for him on the last day she was here.
He goes back to his snack shop and writes a response to Mom’s message on the wall asking if he’s doing well: “No. I think I lived wrongly.”
Tan tells Mom to go wait at Young-do’s hotel for now, and goes to see Chairman Dad. Tan tells him that he’ll take responsibility for Mom now, by parting ways with his father for good. Nice.
He says he’ll only live as Mom’s family from now on, and bows: “Thank you for having me.”
It shocks Dad, but he continues to go ahead with arrangements for Tan’s eighteenth birthday as planned—company stocks, along with a big press conference at Zeus Hotel. Tan hears about it from Won, and decides he’ll attend after all.
Won gives him the Cheondam-dong villa for his mother’s use, admitting that her troubles have something to do with him, and Tan apologizes for always doing things his way when it came to hyung.
Won tells him not to apologize because it makes him uncomfortable, but then offers up a happy birthday as Tan walks out, and it puts a little smile on Tan’s face.
It’s time for Tan’s big birthday press conference, and he has Eun-sang escorted there to be his date. Time for the big Cinderella makeover. She wows him in her pretty red dress, and he says they’ll need some courage tonight.
Off they go to face the row of cameras, and he steels himself as they prepare to face the world head-on.
COMMENTS
If this entire conflict goes away with one press conference, I’ll die laughing. Anyway, at least there’s some indication that Tan is doing something, even if I’m not entirely convinced he’s cutting ties with Dad for good. And I sort of laughed at the Cheongdam-dong villa for Mom, because these people talk about leaving like it’s some huge sacrifice and they’ll have to be penniless and destitute in exchange for their pride, when in fact they’ll really just move into that other villa provided by the other rich guy. It’s the same for Eun-sang, whose life changes in no visible way except for the fact that in one moment Chairman Dad is pulling the strings, and in the next, slightly more magnanimous President Won is backing her instead. Why… can’t she just live her life instead of being allowed to do things by one rich guy over another rich guy? Or am I just asking the wrong questions for this drama because those are her only options in life ever?
Other than the fact that it’s annoying on principle, it also downplays her decision to go back to Tan. Isn’t it more meaningful for them to say, Screw it, we’re just gonna love each other anyway? It’s like the drama wants to say that that’s too unrealistic, so instead we have our teenage romance playing out under the umbrella of choices made by the overseeing (and puppet-string-yanking) adults, which has the effect of taking away any dramatic oomph from the choices made by our lead characters. They’re told to go away and they’re told to come back, and it’s played as if it holds the same dramatic weight as if they made the decisions on their own. I don’t necessarily disagree that these eighteen-year-olds are in fact powerless in their universe. There’s just a disconnect for me between the characters’ agency and the dramatic weight of their choices.
What exactly about Won’s declaration makes it okay for Eun-sang to go back to Tan? Why does Tan think it’s going to be different this time around? The only major shift we saw in this episode is really Madam Han’s choice to leave her husband, which gives Tan freedom from the last reason he’d have to cower to Dad. I’m just pinning my hopes on Tan making some kind of useful declaration at the press conference, and truly cut ties with Dad, officially, for GOOD. At this point I’d be disappointed if Tan didn’t sacrifice his entire kingdom to be with Eun-sang. Tan has so failed to impress me that it’s the only thing left in his arsenal, though I’m not going to hold my breath because obviously this drama is not going to let them (gasp!) be poor.
It was really Young-do’s episode, and the fact that I really felt for him in this hour just made me lament that it was too little, too late. At some point they flipped a switch and the Young-do who secretly wanted to be Tan’s friend and was sincere towards Eun-sang was written with sympathy, and for that character, this episode was a great moment of growth. For that other guy who started out the series pre-lobotomy, it made me sad that his existence fractured a character I could’ve rooted for and loved. I suppose the realization that he lived wrongly is better late than never. It’s just too bad it’s this late.
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51 dustdevil
December 5, 2013 at 10:11 PM
There are only 2 things I want from the last episodes:
1) Young Do reunited with his mom.
2) For the Chairman to be defeated and not redeemed.
I think 2013 is the year of the interesting secondary female characters. BoNa (and Rachel, and the moms), Yoo Kyung in Mirae's Choice, Little Taeyang in Master's Sun, Do Yeon in I Hear Your Voice, and Chung Jo in Gu Family Book (there are probably more.)
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52 haynblackjack
December 5, 2013 at 10:33 PM
Last night it was rock bottom neck minute psyche theyre all good. I mean it feels like KT/ES reunion was too easy. Like im waiting to fall in 19 or come close to it. Not to mention all the teasing with W/HJ R/HS...I need them to have more screen time....and BLOODY HELL, BN/ES BFF needs their own show. What to do until next wednesday omg! I need season 2, same exact cast, different writer...then just maybe then I willbe ready to "go forward" lol.
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53 Apple
December 5, 2013 at 10:44 PM
One thing I don't really get is this... Kim Tan is innocent, but his mom is NOT. I mean...she did have an affair with a married man, and was a third-party after all.
What the official wife's character is like, in this case, is irrelevant. Yes, it would hurt for Kim Tan to see his mom being treated badly, but what did she expect? The Chairman cheated on HIS WIFE with her, and she still expected him to be some caring oppa?
Maybe I'm being harsh, but I find it really hard to sympathize with any woman who is a third-party.
Still, poor Kim Tan.
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Apple
December 5, 2013 at 10:47 PM
Of course, that doesn't in any way negate the fact that the Chairman is an ass.
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SuziQ
December 5, 2013 at 11:22 PM
Agreed. They entered into an clandestine affair and had Kim Tan and wrecked everyone's lives.
The Chairman Dad is a horrible piece of work. Kim Tan's mom had to hide in that mansion for 18 years after being denigrated by the second wife and Won and she couldn't even claim her own son. No wonder she drinks on the sly!
Why didn't the old coot marry her after the second wife and him got divorced? Glad she had enough nerve and took off on him finally but I guess rich people hide out and stay at a villa? That's not too shabby...
I can't understand why Kim Tan said his final good byes to psycho Chairman and still attended his birthday celebration? Must admit LMH looks mighty fine in his tux.
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Eileen
December 6, 2013 at 7:37 AM
-Daddy and the second wife are not divorced, they registered Tan as her son. The second wife still has shares on the company, while the mistress does not and apparently never will. This family is fucked up beyond redemption.
-KT went to the party to stick it up to his dad by bringing ES as his date. Let's see how that goes. I can only see 3 possible things coming out of this: a. Daddy accepts defeat and leaves them alone - which is a huge cop-out after all the evilness or b. He outsmarts Tan again and we go back to rock bottom or c. Everyone in the family (and friends) rallies out around Tan and ES and daddy chairman is left seething alone. This is the only path that I think will kind of satisfy me but I kind of think a magic wand will be needed to make some sort of coherent ending with only 2 episodes left. Or who knows, ES may pull a wonder woman stuff where she somehow saves the world from destruction and the only thing left to do is for everyone to help her reach happiness.
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54 Cute girl
December 5, 2013 at 10:50 PM
the scene in which Tan was sitting on the ground with his injured hand on the head & teary eyes,I like it. I liked the facial expressions of LMH in that scene.
I really am into Madam Han's character. The character is greatly created! Kudos 2 KES!
I felt so bad for Madam Han while she was talking 2 that EVIL FATHER! Her acting was so great. She made me cry
I never thought that once Madam Han would end up giving everything up & leaving like YD's mom & I also never thought that the bad guy YD-Turned to be-likable & cool would help in this issue! I really really like the very idea of KES about making an impressively sad situations for Tan as she made for YD in his teen!
I like the music which is played when YD is sitting alone on a chair next 2 a wall full of words & sentences!!
ABOVE ALL,HANDSOME & CHARMING LEE MIN HO AT THE PARTY wowed me!! :)))
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55 Cute girl
December 5, 2013 at 10:51 PM
the scene in which Tan was sitting on the ground with his injured hand on the head & teary eyes,I like it. I liked the facial expressions of LMH in that scene.
I really am into Madam Han's character. The character is greatly created! Kudos 2 KES!
I felt so bad for Madam Han while she was talking 2 that EVIL FATHER! Her acting was so great. She made me cry
I never thought that once Madam Han would end up giving everything up & leaving like YD's mom & I also never thought that the bad guy YD-Turned to be-likable & cool would help in this issue! I really really like the very idea of KES about making an impressively sad situations for Tan as she made for YD in his younger age.
I like the music which is played when YD is sitting alone on a chair next 2 a wall full of words & sentences!!
ABOVE ALL,HANDSOME & CHARMING LEE MIN HO AT THE PARTY wowed me!! :)))
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56 Shaw
December 5, 2013 at 10:59 PM
Am I the only one thinking that the book "Wonder Boy" is somehow written by Kim Tan?
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57 kanz
December 5, 2013 at 11:00 PM
The addition of like button is really nice!!
Just 2 episodes to go.. This drama is painful and kinda embarassing to watch eventhough I like some of the characters..
I swear I could write better plot and character development for this drama
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58 Alzy
December 5, 2013 at 11:20 PM
I think that the main problem with this episode (and the entire drama in general) is that the resolution is never as momentous or as significant as the conflict itself. It can therefore be called a 'drama of conflict and unsatisfactory resolutions'. I mean, there must be some parity between the two power relations, because that is in effect what they are. If KT and ES' separation is really that big a deal, then why is it defused like it was nothing? Makes no narrative sense.
Also, I might not be aware of this since it is most probably a cultural thing, but how is the fact that KT is a minor reflect on his decision to engage in/abstain from sexual relations? Is it punishable by law, a social taboo, or a psychological block? This is where my annoyance with the whole high school setup manifests itself. :sigh:
Again, a personal point, but why does the depiction of mature adult relations (by this I mean both emotional and sexual ones) require a higher rating, when it is clearly in the best interests of any society to promote a healthy attitude towards it? This is by far the most irrelevant question anyone has ever asked on this page, I think.
:ends rant:
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skelly
December 6, 2013 at 9:38 AM
I was assuming that the whole "no sex, I'm a minor" thing was a feeble attempt at a joke. If not, then it is just part and parcel of this strange, cartoonish world that KES has created, yet another behavior/social more that bears absolutely no resemblance to real life. Only in Heirsland are business mergers only possible through marriage. Only in Heirsland would teenagers refrain from sex because they are not 18 yet.
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Alzy
December 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM
Haha, I would love to agree with you. I too guessed that it was supposed to be a joke, but then the real-life implications just overtook me. Heirsland is a strange place. Much, much stranger than fiction.
While a demand for 'moar skinship' normally meets with disapproval in this section, I feel that this one night that they spent at Myung Soo's studio could easily have translated into more, seeing as it is a critical juncture in their relationship. Cha Eun Sang voluntarily (I believe) stayed back with Tan, in order to be with him. This could have been interpreted as an active decision that she takes on behalf of their relationship, say, reminiscent of Eun Chan in Coffee Prince. But that would be too much to hope for. Even while writing this, I'm saying to myself, 'In your dreams, mate.'
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Thandy
December 6, 2013 at 10:53 PM
I agree with all you just said. I was thinking to myself , so they spent the night together and nothing happened , really.
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59 Cute girl
December 5, 2013 at 11:22 PM
I forgot 2 mentions sth.
the ROMANTIC & CUTE wan Tan looks at Eun Sang,leaning his hand on the head & wearing a sweet smile! I flip
I LOVE IT! :) <3
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Faye
December 6, 2013 at 5:14 AM
I admit I found myself smiling at that as well. It was kind of cheesy, but the way he was looking at her in MS's studio - just grinning away and not looking away from her face for a second - was very sweet.
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60 denise31
December 5, 2013 at 11:23 PM
I would have to say Kim woo Bin has to be the best dressed & actor in this drama. I don't know why they dressed lee min ho so badly. I couldn't stand his sweaters and pants. KWB will no doubt have a leading role after this drama, for sure.
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Jaglaine
December 6, 2013 at 4:24 AM
Their products were so horrid it wasnt selling, so they had LMH do it for them. Coz he can make a sackcloth look good. ;D
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Adeline
December 6, 2013 at 5:59 AM
...but, in all fairness to LMH, KWB would look good in anything. If you put YD's clothes on KT, they'd still look horrid. All the clothes on this show aren't very good. It's just that KWB is so gorgeous that it doesn't matter.
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Jaglaine
December 6, 2013 at 2:15 PM
I think you need to check them clothes again Adeline. You seem to be the odd man out.
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61 Justsaying
December 5, 2013 at 11:25 PM
Seriously, I don't buy KT-ES romance even though I like the actor and actress. And until now? I don't. It's fast and I don't know. I can't feel that "thing".
However, it's not the same case for ES-YD. I wasn't supposed to feel when YD saw and hugged her because I gave up shipping them.. but I was stunned. I was really affected.
This episode is Choi Young Do's episode. This is the episode which 2-3 minute scene would explain so many things. Not like 40 minutes of stares without getting a thing at all.
I love the YD and ES mom's scene. I am satisfied with YD's ending his connection with CES and just will remain a past.
In general, I like the development of YD. And I am not regretting that I have liked his character since ep 5 among all the characters.
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Jaglaine
December 6, 2013 at 1:31 AM
Because KT and ES were playing push-pull. KT was going to ES while ES kept playing hard to get. This went on forever and forever until everyone got sick n tired of the OTP. So, KES killed her own OTP.
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Justsaying
December 6, 2013 at 2:52 AM
Or maybe I have been thinking that they're the main lead anyway or that their romance is just so quick and their struggle is just one day or three days? Hahaha.
But I'm done with them since episode 5. That shifted to Young Do. It's him that I can't still drop this show. I hope the writer gives him an end he deserves. :)
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enz
December 6, 2013 at 6:36 AM
playing is the operative word here. such utter rubbish coming out of the mouths of 'kids' who dont seem to have any sense of reality or perspective on life and love at all!!
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Akiddo
December 7, 2013 at 10:03 PM
YD had me at hello. Maybe it is because of KWB (probably so) but I am partial to reformed bad boys. Many thought he was psychotic in the beginning etc but I liked him all the same.
Young-do ah...his heartbreaking expression when ES said his name that way.
Feel that PSH has more chemistry with KWB. I looked forward to their scenes together. The chemistry with LMH is not bad but the script requires them to be so...while ES and YD had a different relationship - almost like a hunter and prey relationship but the hunter ended up being hurt because beloved the prey too much. The actors made the chemistry palpable.
Hope that they get a chance to be the main couple in another show. More laughter, less tears please!
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62 RaineeDays
December 5, 2013 at 11:40 PM
I've forgotten that this is the same girl-tripping, pool-pushing, blackmailing Young Do. He deserves to have his mommy come back.
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63 niKai
December 6, 2013 at 12:16 AM
I havent watched this episode but I adore Won and Hyun Joo. Btw, was it deliberate or coincidence that eun sang and hyunjoo actually look similar, like sisters, while tan and won, well they are brothers so actors similarities or likeness may hv been intentional. So it looks like brothers have similar taste in woman or something.
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laden
December 6, 2013 at 2:15 AM
I thought I was the only who noticed the similarity btw the both of them,they actually even look alike
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64 Zarani
December 6, 2013 at 12:55 AM
Tan says this 2 his father,who is cause of all trouble
"......Thank you for giving birth to me"!
This is so impressive,Korean people's respect toward each other,especially descendants toward parents,is admirable.
I also have seen in other dramas and this show Korea culture.
For some reasons,I'm fond of this drama
1-the characters are not perfect. Some are screwed up,hurt and lonely with scars which make the characters interesting.the characters themselves are interesting to keep you watching the drama
2-the character of Kim Tan,is HOT & COLD. I get various kinds of emotions in each episode from Tan.
when he meets the girl he likes,he is honest,warm & kind.He openly shows his interest without hesitation
there were times he got feisty & furious because of YD's provocative actions.
in some part he displays his seriousness & maturity by standing up for his mom or others
when it comes 2 Bo Na,he becomes cute by teasing her
The times which Tan went through tough spots,expressed his vulnerability by crying & self destruction.
His love for Eun Sang is INNOCENT.
3-The lines are sometimes HILARIOUS,meaningful,sad..
sometimes they make you contemplate,u automatically
sink into thought.
At first I thought that everything would be predictable but now I have a change of heart. I wanna know what will happen 2 YD in the end?cause now he is not fine,as he says in his line! Is the writer going 2 let him go & suffer??
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windsun33
December 6, 2013 at 1:39 PM
Don't get all your information about Korean life and culture from dramas. "..South Korea’s suicide rate — nearly triple that of the U.S. — has been rising dramatically, jumping by 101.8% from 2000 to 2010. The rate is twice as high among the elderly..."
http://world.time.com/2013/03/25/filial-pity-is-south-korea-doing-enough-to-stop-elderly-suicides/
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Kape
December 6, 2013 at 5:58 PM
That's a curse to a country. Korean dramas are not making life easier for them too. Most dramas are tragic and Cinderella's stories are not real, but those watching those kinds of plots most often cannot separate reality from fiction. They expect too much and when they fail, they become depressed and could not handle the complexity of life.
There is a proliferation of non-acceptance of oneself. They worked long hours beyond my 7.5 daily working time. there is almost nil work-life balance. they drink a lot. they have plastic surgeries.
Students studies almost to 10 in the evening. When they finished their studies, they work beyond the usual working hours. If they go home early, they watch dramas that have themes of vengeance, and cinderella's stories. Just think of their daily tragedies.
Hilarious dramas are shunned by society. As a nation, they don't want to have fun.
Its a curse to a nation to have an increasing suicide rate, despite their economic growth.
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Daria
December 6, 2013 at 6:07 PM
This is tragic. The government should do something about this and must collaborate with other stakeholders to eradicate suicide.
Look at the Philippines. They had Typhoon Haiyan. They have nothing left - yet, just look at the people they are constantly smiling and they seem to get on with life beyond their poor circumstances. I saw a picture taken by CNN, group of teenagers playing basketball in the midst of the ruins of their house, women dancing to a beat coming from a cellphone of a journalists...they believe that life is not measured by what one has but how you handle it.
Koreans should learn from the "always happy and resilient Filipinos". Life to them is a daily fiesta.
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65 em
December 6, 2013 at 1:03 AM
I feel for the dad and the hospital scene. I think he is one of my favorite characters because even though he's the villian he comes from a good place. He's said some terrible things and done some terrible things(granted I think the majority of all these characters have.) Am I the only one hoping that the next episode chan sung makes tan visit his dad at the hospital. Then magically because of that decision dad, won, and tan have some father son bonding time at the end of the show?
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Alzy
December 6, 2013 at 1:18 AM
While it is easy to reject what you said entirely on prejudice (haha), I will try to look at it from your point of view and try to see what you see in him. The trajectory of his character has been an unfortunate one, if there is one to be considered. Personally, he stayed the same calculating, indifferent and ultimately short-sighted person from Day 1 to this more recent development. If he was truly cunning (which by now I know he isn't) he would've ensured that Kim Tan and Cha Eun Sang never meet in Korea. Also, there are more diabolical ways in which rich, influential parents take care of their children's 'girl/boy problems', which I don't think needs to be discussed here. Like everything else in this drama, he too is ineffective, a mere parody of a villain, a snake without venom.
But that aside, I feel that a reconciliation after all that happened would be in poor taste, seeing as it would endorse all his actions, which have been far from exemplary. Also the limits of his character would not permit a sincere repentance and reformation of his ways.
Won and Tan have already come together in a lot of ways, so I don't think that has to be eagerly anticipated anymore.
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newbie
December 6, 2013 at 3:30 AM
It's interesting how the writers made him the bad guy in this drama, early on I thought the women (KT's Mom & the 2nd wife) would be the obstacles to the relationship.
I only say this because after the scene of Won & Rachel in CA where Won talks about how his Mom was an ordinary American-Korean girl that met, fell in love and married his father but couldn't cope with dealing with the "in-laws".
To me, that showed the chairman as once having been young and following his heart and not the arranged relationship I'm sure his family wanted, he rebelled.
I mean come on, both sons are taking after Dad and falling in love with poor ordinary girls, they must get that from somewhere.
In my mind it would have been more interesting if the father was written as sympathetic to KT/ES & the women who were the driving wedge between those two.
Can you imagine some of the scenes between KT's Mom & the chairwoman scheming to break them up?? While meanwhile you have the Chairman behind the scenes giving aid to "young love".
Ah well, way too late for that to happen but I'm left wondering what could the drama have been like with that change???
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66 Yanny
December 6, 2013 at 1:08 AM
Getting crappier and crappier with each passing episode -.- How it manages to get its high ratings is beyond me.
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?
December 6, 2013 at 7:29 AM
dramabeans= NEGATIVE COMMENTATORS
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Justsaying
December 6, 2013 at 7:45 AM
?= Bitter
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windsun33
December 6, 2013 at 1:42 PM
Right now it has almost no competition in that time slot. When Secrets was running, Secrets beat it every time.
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67 mimosa
December 6, 2013 at 1:12 AM
Young-do, his side of story is the one I'm waiting for in this drama. Kim Tan? I don't care. He and Eun-sang are just running around the circles, which could be done with 2 episodes only.
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68 Lulu
December 6, 2013 at 1:23 AM
Park Shin Hye and Lee Min Ho developed feelings for each other while filming Heirs. Insiders of the drama said that while filming, the two became close as they share kisses and embraces with each other. The deep kiss that they shared in Episode 16 was not in the script but both said that the scene was too lame without any kiss. The Director agreed and all staff were surprised that they have done it perfectly like real lovers.
They will continue to see each other after the filming of the drama. Both, will travel to Europe together until February. Give them your love and support.
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favoree
December 6, 2013 at 2:56 AM
How do you know this?
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windsun33
December 6, 2013 at 1:45 PM
Times like this I miss the DOWN button :D
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Kay
December 6, 2013 at 7:35 AM
LOL
This is hilarious! the kiss wasn't in the script?
On the whole,the hardest things EVER for PSH is to be kissed and kiss a man in her dramas and now you are saying they kissed while it wasn't in the script?
U must be dreaming the two dating but that's not gonna happen cause they already have mentioned in their interviews that they R JUST FRIENDS!
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skelly
December 6, 2013 at 9:41 AM
LOLLL!
This is from The Onion, right?
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Birdie
December 6, 2013 at 11:31 AM
LOL In your dreams perhaps.
Spreading rumors will justify your delusions? lol
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windsun33
December 6, 2013 at 1:44 PM
That is total BS, taken from some fan fiction site.
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Yee
December 6, 2013 at 11:02 PM
There is a SCRIPT on this Closet Kissing and I've seen the translated version somewhere...so STOP spreading rumors or else PSH dad will never forgive you!
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Farah
December 8, 2013 at 9:19 AM
WTF?! Seriously Lulu???
If the closet kiss wasn't scripted and THAT is how PSH would look like in the heat of passion then I have only one thing to say... UGLY. Wahahahaha
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69 Nikilann
December 6, 2013 at 1:38 AM
"It was really Young-do’s episode"
YEAH !
I'm so frustrated by Young Do ! He could have such a wonderful and complex character ! And here... they just... I think my issue with it is that they explain everything about him now, so what seemed like a petty fight between, like Tan said, underaged teens, is in fact all about his mother, and the fact that if he didn't hate Tan, he would have to face that his mother abandonned him. Like totally. I knew he hated Tan because he represented everything why his mother had left, but I never felt it was a reason enough to justify such coldness. But here, it take all its strengh, and suddensly, I just understood Young Do character.
And I want to kill the writer. Really. Why, why, why so late ?
Why such a misery episode to just resolve things with a... discussion she must have had with herself at least a million times ! Seriously ! How can they lack such charisma ?!
And Tan, the only character I like with his mother, because at least, he is well written, is starting to get on my nerves too. Drama, don't make me want to hit Lee Min Oh ! PLEASE !
Or I'll burn you.
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70 magic
December 6, 2013 at 2:13 AM
Nice script!
It is very useful for me,This lines have made me reflect.
I usually have trouble deciding & I think a lot about the future. when I recall it 2 my mind,I see that there were some times that I should have thought of my tomorrow not far in the future. In the end I got no where by getting lost in thought and travelling in my future.I am being regretful a lot these days,sad :(
"When you can't decide on something, don't think too much,
just think about what you are going to do tomorrow, the answer won't be the same.
When you don't have the courage, find an excuse is also a good choice."
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71 enz
December 6, 2013 at 2:19 AM
i really dont get it - kim tan is one of the most ridiculous male lead ever. completely toothless yet constantly making pronouncements of love and promises that is beyond him. the OTP breaks up like they are going to die and then they get together again and tries again when nothing really has changed in external forces that determine their fate?
i know i am repeating girlfriday's thoughts but i cant help it.
and yes its young do's episode. esp the shot of him running slo mo/ i likey.
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72 Islandgal
December 6, 2013 at 3:35 AM
Well well, although this episode had the desired result ( happyish ending for our fave couple) there were loads of parts that just did my head in........
ES- so she meets with Evil Dad saying she won't see Tan. Boo hoo. Sees Tan in the street, ignores him. Boo hoo. Tan shows up , she runs away from him again. Boo hoo. Then Won shows up and god knows what he said to her but all of a sudden it's the "welcome back Tan and ES show- the let's be in love again edition "????? Lost!
Maybe even a scene with ES considering her options, then telling off Dad then meeting with Won saying she thought living without Tan was for the best but it's not working ;please help or something would have made more sense. Beats me. Then again this kinda ish normally happens in dramas when they are running out of episodes......
Bo Na and CY- love these two, too cute.
Won and HJ- so they like each other, sleep together ( wiggles eyebrows) but HJ needs to be like a lady in waiting till Won reaches the top? WTF seriously ?? He's sexy but he ain't wait 5 years sexy please! Ain't nobody got time for that! Nice to see Won looking after his little bro for a change tho, sweet.
YD - wow seeing him so humble and polite to ES mom was really nice . Made you think he could be really cool if he wasn't such an asshole. Poor guy, still hoping he meets a bad girl by the end. Oh and that whole run to find Tan scene was a bit over the top tho smh.
Chairman-Seriously? How vile can one person be? Sending people here and there like they are parcel post? So glad Tan's mom left his Viagra taking ass!
Tan's mom- Better late than never ,props to you Moms.
Tan- whoa his self- destructing scenes were good , you could really feel the pain. Keep them tear ducts primed though cos ES isn't very decisive. Also his hair was much better for the party bit.
Can't wait for the finale (hope it makes sense) XD
Love is the momenttttttttttttttttttttttttt!
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Adeline
December 6, 2013 at 6:37 AM
I know a lot of people don't want Young-do to be alone, however just because he didn't get Eung-sang, I don't think the answer is to his unhappiness is to find him another girl who will actually reciprocate his feelings. 1. It will cheapen the profound impact that caring about Eung-sang had on him. He was a bastard before meeting her, and there were plenty of girls around then, too. 2. Young-do should get his mother back. This ending gives his character much better closure. A new last minute romantic interest wouldn't do very much for him.
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Lindy
December 6, 2013 at 10:43 AM
I agree. Young-do really needs his mother now that he's had the lack of her hammered home by his interactions with Eun-sang and Tan's mothers. All he has had of his mother for years is a note left on a cafe wall and the guilt he feels (deflected onto Tan for a lot of the time) at being too late for their last meeting.
He doesn't need a girl right now, he needs a mother. Specifically to find his own mother. I think he is getting on his motorbike and heading down that long street to do just that.
This episode is kind of like closure for Young-do for a lot of things. He meets Eun-sang's mother and treats her with respect and is treated with warmth by her in return. He admits to her mother that he likes Eun-sang then when he sees that she is determined to pursue a course of action he thinks will prove to be disastrous (as do I), he "dumps" her and says he doesn't want to continue as friends, doesn't want to see her and, if they meet up in the future, no nostalgic reminiscing. Pretty final to me because they never had a romantic relationship to begin with.
I think Young-do's connection to Eun-sang was the last thing keeping him in his present situation. He doesn't seem to care about running the business he will inherit, like Won obviously does with Jeguk, although he likes the power and position it gives him. He obviously doesn't want to live his father's life. If he actually does get up and leave, his father probably won't notice for weeks what with all the tax audits and fornication. He seems to have already blown off his higher education so school's not an anchor. Friends? He has them but knows how to keep his own company as well. Money? He knows how to work; dishes always need to be washed and motorcycles always need to be tuned. What's keeping him?
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Lin_K
December 6, 2013 at 4:47 PM
@Lindy12 - I agree with everything you said about YD. He should go and live with his mom! One thing I do disagree is about his dad. His dad is an abusive jerk, player, and has messed up principles in life. However, I do think he cares about YD in his own way. For example, he was proud when YD defeated KT. He respected YD and said that he has no right to intervene in YD's love life. And I liked it when he patted YD's shoulder and told him that he will give the hotel back to YD intact. It does seem like YD cares for his dad too because he implied that he is worried about his dad and not the hotel. On a side note, I would love to see YD going off and living with his mom, working as a mechanic :) :) YD received growth and closure!! YES!!
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Valerie Gudorf
December 6, 2013 at 3:00 PM
I agree. The thing Young Do needs more than anything is his Mommy. It's always struck me as odd, the fact that his mother disappeared and was never heard from again. How do you just leave your child and behave as if he doesn't exist anymore? The drama needs to show that she tried for many years to contact her son, but was somehow always thwarted by the evil and somehow all powerful (because this is a Kdrama, after all) father. But then, because Daddy is about to go down via prosecution (which hopefully, Mom had a hand in facilitating), she is now free to return to Korea and her son. That would make sense, and make it possible for YD to forgive her absence and heal. He also needs his best friend back. I got the impression that those two boys understand one another in a deep and profound way, despite their recent years of seeming mutual hatred, and a lot of the acting out was predicated upon feelings of missing what was precious between them. I'm seriously rooting for the return of their bromance.
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73 Yue
December 6, 2013 at 4:05 AM
I think I've spent the last 18 episodes watching Bo-na and Chan-young and more interested in them than the main couple. That is just a sad sad thought hahaha...
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74 namedx
December 6, 2013 at 4:09 AM
Ah I actually don't see Young Do's turn around as being all that bad or nonsensical, at least compared to the other characters; it actually makes a lot more sense and has remained sorta consistent.
The problem I have is that they made him go from one extreme to the other, without any clear proof of change. I don't mind that he was the violent lad at the beginning, but they made him too violent before toning him down.
And then they made him fall in love with ES, which I didn't mind, but even then, they made it too dramatic for his character, so much so that it became the sole reason for his change, which just didn't sit well with me.
YD does well when it comes to the more subtle changes, like the moments with ES's mother, or his friendship with Tan - it's just a shame that we saw the results so late into the game, when really this should have been built in over the entire stretch of the drama.
Having said that, I'm most gutted about Won's character, and how non-existent he's been up until now!!! What a waste.
Thank you for the recap ladies. x
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Valerie Gudorf
December 6, 2013 at 3:07 PM
Yes. Won's character was one I really wanted the see developed. Such a total waste go CJH's acting abilities. But hopefully, the fact that the show is a ratings success will help bolster his chances for a leading drama roll soon.
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75 ty
December 6, 2013 at 4:56 AM
its so sad, because i was actually looking forward to this drama so much
it even premiered on my birthday D:
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76 Natalie
December 6, 2013 at 5:29 AM
Ok. A random comment for a random drama.
I really think KWB is more handsome without wax and LMH with it. OMG that hair that face at the end. I fell for Kim Tan the first time at the end of EP18! Finally! Thanks goodness it's not the last one.
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^ ^
December 6, 2013 at 7:37 AM
I AGREE WITH U ABOUT THE LAST SCENE OF EPISODE 18
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77 sixtyeightmonkey
December 6, 2013 at 6:41 AM
Let's hope everybody stays together now (except for Bad Daddy. He can be alone). I don't think I can keep a straight face if there's one more choreographed Ships Passing in the Night scene, as characters walk past each other refusing to make eye contact.
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78 Ace
December 6, 2013 at 7:45 AM
The problem with the writer is that when I'm watching her dramas, it's entertaining. But when I think about it afterwards and/or read the recaps, some things just don't make sense because there's a problem with continuity (random stuff happens for no reason). Add in the slow pace for this series, what will she do with the last 2 episodes? Cram stuff to resolve the problems? I wish there was a time jump so that the characters were older and would have some power/freedom. I didn't have a problem at the start with them being in high school but the writer keeps giving them problems that would be absurd to be solved by minors even if they're rich. And those problems that even other kdrama adult characters had a hard time resolving, what more these teenagers that are still dependent on adults for their basic needs. At this point, I also would've wanted those rumors earlier of birth secrets to come true even if it's too cliche or lazy, at least it would make some sense for the poor girl and rich guy to get together without opposition from evil dad.
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79 Andiya
December 6, 2013 at 8:18 AM
I have a question,pls answer if anyone knows
Do you know WHERE ELSE can the viewers make comment on each episode of a drama apart from "Dramabeans'?!
I have heard about "Soompi"
Can viewers make comment on each episode of dramas in "Soompi"?!
I visited the website but I couldn't find where 2 make comment!
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skelly
December 6, 2013 at 9:44 AM
1. In soompi, click the Forums tab.
2. Choose the Korean Drama option.
3. Choose your drama from the scrollable list.
4. Commence fangirling.
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80 Skwon
December 6, 2013 at 8:20 AM
I cried. Young do had my tears streaming endlessly. Could Kim Woo Bin be any cooler? He plays Young Do so well, giving him depth, making him the most dynamic character of the lot. I even appreciated his earlier, blackmailer version. Although it got extra tough in those middle episodes. And as always, he's the best dressed. Unlike his nemesis, who continues to be sponsored by the Ajumma-line.
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81 Dramafan
December 6, 2013 at 8:57 AM
1st time poster with a question for JB and GF.
This week, a longtime KES/LMH/PSH fan blogger in Asia expressed disappointment about the lack of screen time of the 2 OTP and KWB becoming the main role in ep. 17 and 18(and earlier eps). This blogger thought that KES sold out to the pressure of KWB'S much larger management company and wrote in script changes that brought more limelight to KWB in these episode. As a result, these changes took the focus away from the OTP and the main story, which was to have been the story of how the OTP come to "bear the weight of the crown". The blogger mentioned that since LMK/PSH both belong to much smaller management co's, they really had no way to counteract these moves. The conclusion was that it could have been a better script had KES stuck to her original storyline and that it was an insulting move to the OTPs, who did an incredible job to make KT/CES come alive for the viewers.
As a total drama layperson, I am not sure, since the premise of the story does include the growth of supporting characters (other heirs and non-heirs like YCY and CES). Based on your knowledge of the SK entertainment industry and having recapped the show, what do you think?
Btw, I am a fan of the show and have enjoyed the slow moving story telling. I prefer it over the "instant gratification" effect of some dramas.
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windsun33
December 6, 2013 at 1:59 PM
It is possible. Apparently, according to several reports, there have been many changes in the script, and in fact that the shooting is being done right up until just a few hours before air time. Why all the changes I don't know, but it is pretty certain that there have been a lot of rewrites for the last few episodes.
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Dramafan
December 6, 2013 at 4:52 PM
The Asian fan/blogger and several viewers felt that ep. 18, in particular, was "crammed" with scenes with YD that didn't serve the purpose of main plot movement, such as YD eating with ES mom, or YD/RY returning wedding clothing. These were nice scenes for the supporting cast, but were they necessary to the main plot and the OTP story? The viewers already saw that the wedding had been cancelled, and YD's mother issues were later touched upon again with KT's mom leaving and YD answering his mom's message at the Dubboki shop.
This does lead me to question whether KES could have done more explain ES/KT getting back together, which really was the main conflict of ep. 17 and 18. For me, ep 18 felt more disjointed, as opposed to previous episodes that seemed to have been methodically plotted and thought out, despite many comments that the plot moved too slowly. The viewers were basically left to interpret ES' return to KT to be driven by the impact of ES reading a book passage about love/handholding, and Kim Won's visit to the bookshop. While plausible, I missed the unfolding of the story that was evident in earlier episodes.
I still like the show and want to see how KES chooses to finish the story. However, if the script was changed according to these speculations, it really does sound like it shortchanged the story- the main OTP's growth and how they came to "bear the weight of the crown", which now has to be explained in the next 2 eps.
I am curious about how a script writer balances the demands of the management co's, the viewing public, and how much can you compromise before your story veers off entirely.
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Lindy
December 6, 2013 at 7:40 PM
About the character of Young-do getting increased screen time as the show progresses, this happens occasionally. It's more than likely a serendipitous combination of a good, strong character, the right actor cast in the role, positive audience reaction and the writer or writers finding a lot of scope for development and fun to write rather than acceding to an actor's management demands. A good example is that of the vampire Spike in the series Buffy the Vampire Slayer. The actor, who had previously worked mostly on the stage, was cast to appear in 5 or 6 episodes in the second season as Spike was to be killed off. Spike was so charismatic, the actor so good in the part, the fans reaction so positive and the writers so taken with the character that he wasn't killed. The second season was rewritten to include him. Then in Season 4 he returned as a regular and, when Buffy ended, he was written into the spin off series Angel for the final season. I don't know how much control Kim Woo Bin's management company would have over this but it's a lucky break for him as the character of Young-do has become a real star making part.
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Jaglaine
December 6, 2013 at 9:51 PM
I dont think one can compare it with the other because Buffy is a US series. Series being the operative word where it runs for as long as viewership is high. This is KDrama. Totally different world, different style.
Addendum: I loved Spike!
Lindy
December 6, 2013 at 10:25 PM
That's true. Series versus Kdrama is a big difference but, if they are still script writing on the day of shooting (!?! Can this be true? My husband has written for television and, when I told him this, his one word response was "Brutal"), it's like what happened on Buffy except foreshortened. What kind of hours do the actors etc put in for our viewing enjoyment anyway?
I belonged to a group who got together on Buffy nights to watch it together. Half of us thought Buffy belonged with Angel and the other half with Spike. The discussions post viewing got pretty heated at times. Much like the ones with Tan and Young-do. Strange.
Lin_K
December 7, 2013 at 3:06 AM
@Dramafan - Please don't feel offended if I say that KT and ES OTP do not have much of a story. Or the writer didn't make it special or convincing to root for. And KES introduced a lot of side characters in this drama. She has to wrap up their stories too. YD is the second lead. Since the OTP is back together, she may have thought that it is time to work on YD's issues and other side characters. Maybe that's why we saw more of YD, R, Won, HJ, and HS this episode. Also it may be that KES don't have much story material and that she is just adding filler material. Even if it was supposed to be filler, it turned out to be good for YD. Like Lindy12 said, this is KWB's lucky break. I also agree with Lindy when she said that YD's popularity may have prompted the writer to spend more time on his story. Also it does seem proper to resolve his conflicts; he is the second lead after all. Pressure from the management company, I don't know. I do think it highly unlikely though, given the popularity of LMH.
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Lin_K
December 6, 2013 at 4:18 PM
I hardly think so. LMH is much more famous than KWB. I even heard that KES wrote this drama with LMH as the lead in her mind. And I honestly don't think LMH would have just complied even if KES wanted to make YD the lead. However, I do think that KWB stole the limelight with his performance. And KES did give the best lines to YD; she writes/likes strong male leads as we have seen in the past. OTP did get a lot of screen time in all the episodes. The viewers thinking that KWB is becoming the lead maybe because of his well-written character and performance. It does not make sense to me otherwise.
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Lin_K
December 6, 2013 at 4:19 PM
Unknowingly/mistakenly, KES gave the best lines*
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gene
December 9, 2013 at 2:57 AM
"KES wrote this drama with LMH as the lead in her mind"
That explains this trainwreck of a drama.
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82 Tan tan
December 6, 2013 at 9:03 AM
Who has watched "Gossip Girl"?
What does "The heirs" have in common with "Gossip Girl",I wish 2 know more about the American series "Gossip Girl" coz this drama is supposed 2 be "Boys over flowers meets Gossip Girl". I know about BOF,but I don't have a clue about GG!
How do things end in "Gossip Girl"? Are the characters engaging?!
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xanti
December 8, 2013 at 9:46 AM
i don't see any close similarity to the plot. the only similarity is that in GG, the characters are all from upper class of NY. but the main leads do not have the poor girl, rich guy story line. nothing like that at all.
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83 dania
December 6, 2013 at 9:23 AM
seriously,did park shin hye and lee min ho develops real feelings for each other?kyaaa!
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skelly
December 6, 2013 at 9:45 AM
=facepalm=
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Thandy
December 6, 2013 at 11:04 PM
I highly doubt it , I just can't see it
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84 ling ml
December 6, 2013 at 9:27 AM
Facts: Heirs is very populsr with viewership ratings of more than 24%
All her leading men, only Lee Min Ho had the privelege to exchange passionate kisses. The only one that Park Shin Hye opened her mouth and really kissed him in return.
The collaboration between Psh -lmh crashed and sent to very low ratngs pretty man
Psh fans are 100% behind psh-lmh
Lee min ho and park shin hye are the hallyu world king and queen. Proof is Heirs.
Park shin hye bought dream catcher for herr and lee min ho. She nought diary to document her love for lee min ho
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85 dania
December 6, 2013 at 9:35 AM
that kiss sure are passionate,i rewatch n it many time,muahaha!
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86 Joonni recap
December 6, 2013 at 9:36 AM
I have read a very interesting analyse in "Joonni recap for episode 18". I wanna share this with you guys here in dramabeans.
wish for your satisfaction :))
I guess Kim Eun Sook wanted to kill two birds with one stone- get Ki Ae out the Jeguk house and also give some closure to Young Do. I see why Kim Eun Sook put Young Do in that situation. First, Young Do had to see and understand how his own mom must have felt and looked like when she was looking for him through his interaction with Ki Ae. That is That is why Young Do was able to imagine his own mom later. Second, Young Do has to experience the same kind of panic Tan felt as he searched for him in the past. It is through these two types of experience that Young Do is able to answer his mom. No, he is not doing well. He lived his life wrong, making himself miserable in order to make others miserable. This is not something his mom would have wanted from him. Hopefully from now on, Young Do will be on a pursuit of happiness for himself, which ties along well with him giving up in Eun Sang.
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87 ling ml
December 6, 2013 at 10:02 AM
So what do you mean Skelley in real life lee min ho and park shin hye are having ???
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skelly
December 6, 2013 at 11:01 AM
LOL, absolutely not. I don't think they like each other much at all, in real life, and will most likely be glad to see the backs of one another when it's over.
What I was saying is that in real life, two teenagers who have decided they are wildly in love, and have the world against them, and have gone through so many twists and turns to prove themselves to one another, would not spend their night all alone studying for finals. I think Eun Sang is actually an alien and she is worried Tan may discover her metal framework and plasticene exoskeleton. That explanation makes a lot more sense.
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88 Adal
December 6, 2013 at 10:13 AM
Young-do-ah you break my heart. So many scenes...
...eating with ES mom...
....running off to find KT before his mom disappeared...
...sitting alone at the restaurant and reading your mom's handwriting on the wall... "No mom, I'm not fine"....
...breaking up with CES, your first crush by having a last meal in the same restaurant in which you missed your mother's last meal....
...commiserating with your would-no-longer-be 'sexy' stepsister...
.... trying to beat some sense in your frenemy KT....
....and giving 'lip' to his hyung...
...sigh.... Here's wishing that you find your mom before Heirs is over. There should be some happiness in store for you at least.
Bo Na and CY... you are by far the most favorite secondary couple I've seen. I particularly like CY's masculine possessiveness.... 'don't go to KT's party else I'll break your legs!' LOL.
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89 ling ml
December 6, 2013 at 10:14 AM
Even in trusted fansites of park shin hye they said that the two are dating in real life and started in Heirs. Psh likes tall men because she feels protected when hugged. The passionate kiss sealed it. I think she is surprised too that she kissed him back. We'll see more of them in the future. Fan site psh int'l. Reliable because admins close with psh and her manager. They know her parents too.
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Dania
December 6, 2013 at 10:37 AM
really,thanks for the information though, i shipping this couple, eventhough personally i think their chemistry in 'heirs'wasn't that great, but still they both soo good looking and look great together!...;)
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Birdie
December 6, 2013 at 11:43 AM
That's a difference between good acting to script and reality. There have been no rumors at korean sites about them dating or any suspicions from fan accounts of those who were watching the filming.
Best not start rumors for the sake of PSH and LMH. :)
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windsun33
December 6, 2013 at 2:08 PM
That dating story is total BS. The same silly rumors popped up when she was doing other dramas also, and nothing ever happened.
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Birdie
December 6, 2013 at 2:50 PM
Some of her fans get overboard every time every drama as if she is so irresistible that her costars must date her.
Sorry get back to real life. Acting is acting. Let the girl be professional.
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Justsaying
December 6, 2013 at 2:27 PM
They'll just eventually break up. Trust me.
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90 fantasma
December 6, 2013 at 10:24 AM
I can't help but wonder if/when all this angst and misery between KT/ES ends, they'll actually have a normal conversation, so they can, you know, GET TO KNOW each other.
"So, Tan, do you like potatoes? What's your favorite color? What do you do on you free time (besides stalking me)? What do you want to Be? A Writer, a model, an architect?"
"So ES, do you like cheese? Do you like to read? What kinds of games did you play when you we're Young?"
Who knows, maybe if they would talk to each other about normal stuff The Way everybody does, they would find out they have nothing or very Little in common and their relationship would end up deteriorating. Just maybe.
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Lindy
December 6, 2013 at 10:59 AM
I know. Who wants a relationship with a guy who falls to pieces like that? "I'm dying if you're not with me. You're my whole world, my everything. I'll go anywhere I'm sent because my life has no meaning without you. You are all I have left. You are all I can see." Okay. In the space of days, Tan is a complete and total wreck, he's a mess physically, mentally and emotionally. He doesn't seem to be capable of manning up at all. Not exactly a solid foundation for a healthy, stable relationship.
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fantasma
December 6, 2013 at 12:29 PM
Exactly what I've been thinking. Why would she want to go Back to that kind of person? He saw that she left because He was making her Life miserable but, despite all His big talk, instead of finding a Way to work on himself and His circumstances (or at least attempting to do it) He Just goes for The beaten track and starts to Be self destructive. Great boyfriend material indeed!
Just reading these sentences you wrote makes me think of several real life cases where The Guy completely sucks The Life out of The object of His "affections" and ends up killing her if she doesn't accept or gets tired of His "Love".
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Lindy
December 6, 2013 at 5:57 PM
Exactly right! What does happen to a woman when she wants to break away from a guy like Tan? He wants control, dominance and to possess her absolutely because he sees her not as a person but as a thing. He is using every trick such men use to bind Eun-sang to him. Such men are dangerous to the women they "love" precisely because the women are possessions rather than people. Physical violence and even death are entirely possible in such relationships.
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windsun33
December 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM
What girl would want to hook up with a guy that goes into total self-destruct mode every time he loses out to Big Daddy?
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fantasma
December 6, 2013 at 3:43 PM
Unfortunatelly, many. Here in my country it's kind of an epidemy. The numbers of Young girls, and even older ones, Who date instable, abusive, controlling, especially criminal, men is allarming. That's why The concept of bad Guy turned good for Love is such BS for me. It probably happened somewhere to someone, but I've never seen it or heard of it on real Life.
That's why it's hard for me to Just jump into The YD Love wagon (as much as I've come to love KWB). I still remember The bullied student and I know he'll carry those scars for The rest of His Life. What's first Love delusion compared to that?
And don't even get me started on what is so great about ES that made him (YD) turn into softy overnight?
I think I veered a bit far from The topic of my reply. ?
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Lin_K
December 6, 2013 at 4:38 PM
Because ES showed YD warmth and love when no one else did. For someone like YD, that was huge. He totally fell in love with her after that. I find it hard to believe Tan's love for ES than YD's. YD was a bully but he received growth and (some) redemption in this story. And honestly, the "changed" YD is much better than the KT. YD at least knows his mistakes and admits it. Tan's breakdown/self-destructive behavior because ES moved to another town was the scariest thing for me. Even YD got fed up with Tan. YD's self-destructive behavior (I admit, it is bad) at least came from years of hurt, abuse, and loneliness, not because his love moved to another town. I wish they made Tan's sadness more realistic. Or at least that he had that huge breakdown after he believed that his dad killed ES. Aaargh!
Lin_K
December 6, 2013 at 4:40 PM
And I do agree while she is kind and showed warmth to YD and managed to change him, she is not that great for two guys to fall in love this deeply. Oh well, it is a drama.
fantasma
December 7, 2013 at 3:15 AM
Well, The thing, for me, is that her kindness came out of nowhere. It's not like she is shown to Be kind to everybody, but one Day she looks at YD, The Guy Who tripped her, threatened her, made her Life and that of The bullied student miserable and she says: oh, how do you feel about your dad getting married? And some other Day she gives him a ban-aid. Bam! Instant Love?
Feels like The Writer thought: hey, this drama is reaching The end, we need The second lead to fall for The girl, let's throw some random "kindness" His Way and job done.
The Way I try to understand it, He didn't fell in Love with her because of her "kindness", but because Tan did. YD looked at her because Tan was looking, and He desired to have what was Tan's, but as time passes and He realizes that she won't Love him Back, for His wooing methods are cr@p, He realizes that in order for good things happen to him He has to change.
That is The reason His change, imo, feels more organic than Tan's. He changed for himself, not for The girl. That's why, even though she rejects him, He won't go Back to His old persona. He wants People to Be able to love him back, so he'll be better from now on.
I Just wished He and Rachel would find The Way to each other. They'd be such a power couple. Sigh! She wasn't afraid of him and answered fire with fire. And I bet they wouldn't be moping around.
fantasma
December 7, 2013 at 3:24 AM
Oh, I forgot to add, other People had shown YD kindness before, like R's mom and MS, Who seems to Be a good friend, even if a bit clueless.
And I totally get why Tan fell for her, given The circumstances of their first encounter. I Just don't get all this intensity.
Lindy
December 7, 2013 at 8:03 AM
I agree with you that Young-do, as an 18 year old teenaged boy with massive issues surrounding violence, abuse, abandonment, loneliness, unhealthy sexual relationships etc, isn't a fitting partner for any young woman. But at least he now seems to recognize this for himself. He tells himself he is not doing well, he's lived wrong and this is the biggest step he'll ever take towards changing. I'd definitely watch a drama about Young-do on a voyage of discovery through Korea to find out about himself, his mother and the world outside the chaebol bubble he's inhabited all his life. He can get some real jobs and see how the 99.99% of the rest of the world live their lives. I also want to see him with grease on his face and shirtless but a girl can only dream.
But Young-do sees Eun-sang first well before he knows anything else about her and her relationship with Tan and his family. She delivers chicken to the shop he's gone to pick up parts for his expensive motorcycle. She's strong, feisty, gives as good as she gets with a couple of older men who are flirting with/bullying her. She threatens to call the cops on them and they back down. He's intrigued, attracted to her strength and attracted to her. He's the kind of bully who likes people who can stand up to him.
Lin_K
December 7, 2013 at 2:44 PM
@fantasma - There is no reply button to your reply to my post; so, I will reply here. I disagree about YD liking ES just because Tan liked her. YD was intrigued by ES even before he came to know of her and KT's relationship. Of course, Tan's interest in her elevated YD's interest, and he started pestering her. From later conversations of YD and ES, we see that his questions were only excuses to strike up a conversation with her. In the process of bulling her, he fell for her sometime - Around 7th or 8th episode? He had already started liking her then, and I believe when she showed compassion, he fell for her completely. Maybe it was an abrupt love (and the writer introduced the love triangle very late in the story) but I can understand what motivated him to hold onto ES. On the other hand, you saying that he changed for himself, I find myself agreeing to it. I never thought that way before but it makes sense. Even though ES rejected him, he is NOT going back to his old ways; so, he must have changed for himself. Thank you for bringing that to my attention. It earns more points for YD in my book!!!! It shows that he is man enough to own up to his mistakes and correct them with or without a girl in his life!! YES!!.......................................................
@Lindy12 - You mention unhealthy sexual relationships in talking about YD. He never had any if I remember correctly. That was never mentioned in the story. He did talk vulgar a couple of times but that was it, right?
Lindy
December 7, 2013 at 4:25 PM
@ Lin_K: I don't think Young-do has had any sexual relationships. I'm talking about the example his father has set regarding all the women in his life. Young-do has been exposed to his father bringing women into the home/hotel (I don't think he has ever had what we would call a home at all, just a hotel room). Some of these women have tried to use Young-do to get closer to his father. He's witnessed his father in the act at least once we know of, with Tan, while both boys hide in the closet. His mother has left town in a real hurry with only a small bag. She's anxious and clearly so afraid of something she leaves her son behind. So he's probably witnessed spousal abuse as well. Like I say, he's been exposed to dysfunctional sexuality, mistreatment of women, and, coupled with his own history of physical abuse at the hands of his father, he most likely has never seen an example of a loving couple with well-loved children even looks like. When Young-do tells his father the one area of his life that is off-limits to his father's interference is his relationships with girls, his father agrees that he hasn't set much of an example.
fantasma
December 11, 2013 at 6:06 PM
Lindy12 and Lin_k, you are right about YD meeting ES earlier, I had forgotten. Or I guess I didn't count those times. For me, their first real interaction was when she ripped R's nametag, and His intestest was piqued because Tan was mentioned.
I know The Writer wanted to set up some meaning for their interactions before that, but I Just can't consider their first meating all that meaningful for His feelings, especially since after He meets her at school, she starts her sleepwalking, lobotomized routine of having an occasional spine. Not very impressive.
I guess that's why I understood His feelings having to do with Tan more than ES herself, only point in her favor being The "random" kindness I mentioned before. But that's Just my interpretation and I see your points. I guess it's kind of open to The Way every person sees their actions.
I Hope this comment makes any sense. I'm sleepy now.
Lin_K
December 7, 2013 at 2:34 PM
You mean Tan, right? Because I don't remember YD going into self-destruct after losing to his daddy. He did show up at ES's place because he was lonely and went to pick up R because he lost the fight.
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91 Crystal
December 6, 2013 at 10:27 AM
Honestly the transformation is so swift that I feel like I'm still in the break-up things and angst for Tan. What firms ES to go back to Tan? Just because of a few words of Won? doesn't make sense.
Young-do's helping Tan and his mother is the most effective part. I guess this is the moment he grown up. I feel for YD, despite my love for KT. Hope he will have a happy ending, not necessarily be with Rachel, just don't let him alone. That is so heartbreaking.
Still an engaging and affecting story. I'd miss it when it ends.
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92 Estefani
December 6, 2013 at 12:41 PM
I also felt this episode was for Young Do. He made me cry so many times in this episode. Kim Woo Bin is an awesome actor!! And Young Do is my favorite character in Heirs.
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93 MYoung
December 6, 2013 at 1:14 PM
I just hope that they won't rush the ending, like I have seen on other dramas. Also, I would love to see their adult lives, that would be interesting.
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94 BBD-Lite
December 6, 2013 at 3:13 PM
Okay guys I have figured it out. This drama isn't doing anything for me because the leads have NO chemistry whatsoever. It's not LMH or PSH - it's the random way the relationship was set up! I just don't believe the two were made for each other. When they break up - meh. When they get back together - meh.
When I want the leads to be together I will sit and root for them through anything - I even liked Faith because of Kim Hee Sun and LMH, plot holes and all! I'm actually watching Master's Sun right now and have two eps to go and the contrast is striking. I need need need So Ji Sub and Gong Hyo Jin to end up together, but with CES and KT I really don't care either way. I feel bad for the actors - they're acting their hearts out but there's no storyline.
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95 TinaFee
December 6, 2013 at 3:28 PM
it was definitely Young Do's episode. I'm happy to read here, that everybody feels the same about WB acting. he's great... love him in this show... maybe the only character, which is interesting for me!! is he going to end up lonely and sad?! :-(
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96 whilethemusiclasts
December 6, 2013 at 3:36 PM
I just have Young-do feels, okay? That scene between him and Eun-sang's mom? *tears*
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97 DHMRS
December 6, 2013 at 4:57 PM
" I suppose the realization that he lived wrongly is better late than never. It’s just too bad it’s this late."
Personally, I think it's pretty gobsmackingly impressive for an 18 year old kid who has grown up without any love but what he got from his single friend, abandoned by his mother* and horribly abused by his thuggish iceberg cold father to figure out he's been living wrongly before he's even out of high school.
*I realize that his mother probably didn't mean him to be abandoned and he knows that, too, but that doesn't change the emotional trauma and what that does to a kid with a dad like Young Do's dad.
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dibudiaz
December 6, 2013 at 5:30 PM
I agree, I don't think it is late at all for YD. I think this is the perfect time for YD to confront the mistakes he has made in the past and grow from them. The author is way to harsh on YD. I would rather be with YD the way he is now than with present KT. That guy is a mess.
When I saw KT get drunk, violent, skip school and get moody I didn't did not think it was charming at all. Not only was it disturbing that he would go to such lengths for a girl that he barely knows; he will never get anywhere in this world with that horrible attitude. When his father kicked him out and he felt utterly lost, THAT should have been his wake up call.
If he really wanted ES, save his mother and get out of his father's grasp. He should start thinking of a way to built a future for himself. That begins by studying, getting into a good university and try to be financially independent from that dictator. That way if things go well, 5 years from now, he would be his own man and be able to take care of the ones he loves.
Now he is just his father's b*tch and the leash will be passed to his brother when his father passes away.
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98 Yee
December 6, 2013 at 5:07 PM
My 2 cent on WonJoo, the writer must be thinking oh shit we spend so much times on TanSang's angst we forgot about this couple why not throw in a bed scene to show them not in a 'maybe-kinda-sorta' relationship anymore..they are finally in a proper romantic adult relationship! In proper clothing with proper conversation about his would be properly wifey! It suddenly decided to show us how far they have gone, through this proper bonding bed scene.....awwww NOT! But their convo are quite enlightening on the differences of these 2 brothers.
It looks like KW might have to pay the price & make the promise with his dad to marry that Telco heiress in exchange for his lil bro freedom as hinted in his various conversation with Dad, HJ & ES! I hope I'm wrong though and I want the BUN IN THE OVEN! I swear all the good stuff for this couple happened off-screen and we only get the most random stuff on-screen for them...so wasted!
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99 ScoobyDoo
December 6, 2013 at 9:26 PM
I remember when I first heard that this drama was inspired by Gossip Girl, it made me wonder. Now that I have been watching this drama, Kim Eun Sook wasn't inspired, she more or less ripped it off. The character developments done for Heirs are very thin sketches of folks from GG.
- Kim Tan = Serena van der Woodsen. Tan is the ultimate "IT" boy. The start of GG was when Serena came back to NY from self-exile and the start of Heirs was when Tan came back to Korea. He and Young Do have that same frenemies relationship riddled with history and resentment that Serena and Blair had. Queen B never could beat S at anything. The big secret that tore them apart in GG was that Serena slept with Blair's boyfriend while the big secret in Heirs that tore the friendship was Tan's illegitimacy and YD's mom.
- Cha Eun Sang = Dan Humphrey. The poor kid who is the object of affection of the "IT" boy.
- Choi Young Do - Chuck Bass. YD even has a major asshole of a dad like Chuck Bass did.
- Yoo Rachel - Blair Waldorf. They have a similar haughtiness.
- Lee Esther, Rachel's Mom - Lily van der Woodsen, Serena's mom who got married multiple times for all the wrong reasons. Esther is the same way.
- Yoon Jae Ho, Chanyoung's Dad - Rufus Humphrey. Remember how Rufus and Lily from GG were each other's first loves who still pined for one another? Well so do Esther and Jae Ho.
Forgot Kang Haneul's character's name, but the whole back story with the suicide attempt is the same story used with Serena's brother.
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100 ScoobyDoo
December 6, 2013 at 9:46 PM
I really hoped this drama was going to do something different with the whole subject of Chaebols and Heirs. I know this point had been made so many times and sorry to beat the dead horse, but I so wish the characters were older and had more at stake over the actual empires of which they are the HEIRS. I almost wish Won was the main character. His dilemma of loving the wrong girl (according to Daddy's standards) and wanting to take over the empire is much more compelling. He has conflicting needs coming from himself and the outside. It's also refreshing to see an Heir having the DESIRE to take over the family business as oppose to treating it like a filial duty. Then someone like Tan who just wants the girl could be a secondary character to serve as the foil to our tormented troubled hero.
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