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Heirs: Episode 20 (Final)

The end is here. Not that it’s a surprise, but the Heirs finale doesn’t step outside its prescribed frame for even a second, so mostly what we get is an hour to wrap everything up neatly and send our characters on their way. Truthfully it wasn’t really a drama that had twenty episodes of story to sustain it in the first place, so I’m pleased that at least there are a few good character beats to leave on, if nothing else.

Heirs topped out at 25.6% ratings for its finale.

 
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FINAL EPISODE RECAP

Tan and Young-do look out over the city from the rooftop, each lost in thought over his father. For once they both agree—that tonight the city is cold, and dark.

Tan has his legal guardianship changed to his brother Won, and then they prepare to show a united front to the shareholders in a meeting. But they wait and wait, and only two faithful managers show up in the end. The rest—including all of the chairman’s actual family members—are busy plotting their takeover led by Madam Jung.

Chan-young’s dad VP Yoon tells them they have lots of work ahead of them if they have to chase shares down, and whisks Tan abroad to start shaking hands and getting signatures. Tan understands he is to play the part of the dutiful son, and he wonders how his father lived an entire life doing this.

Eun-sang only hears about the chairman’s collapse the next day from Chan-young, and then finds a note that Tan left for her at home.

Young-do eats a tense dinner with his dad, wanting to know what’s going to happen. Dad is for once a little nice, and assures Young-do that even if he does end up going to prison, life will resume as normal for Young-do, who is to trust only their hotel VP.

Dad puts on a smile and says he’ll be out in no time, reminding Young-do not to shirk his dishwashing duties at the hotel. But the very next day Young-do watches as his father’s face gets splashed all over the television along with news of his indictment.

Dad’s team of lawyers tells Young-do not to worry, and to live his life like before. They do have one message from his father though: “There need to be rules. You can’t cheat.” What. Did Crazypants finally teach his son a good thing? Granted it’s through a lawyer so I find it highly suspect that he really said it, but I’ll take what I can get.

Young-do takes it to heart and goes to see Joon-young, the kid he bullied so horrendously. He finds him at his new school, and Joon-young immediately tenses up at the sight of him, asking if he’s here to torment him some more.

But Young-do says he’s here to apologize, and says he’s sorry—sincerely, contritely. It floors Joon-young, who admits he didn’t think Young-do knew how to do that (me neither), but he says with grim determination that he won’t ever accept his apology. Joon-young tells him that if he’s really sorry, he should live the rest of his life feeling guilty, and Young-do doesn’t argue, agreeing to do so.

Eun-sang sees news of Young-do’s dad on TV, and writes to Tan wondering what kind of misfortune it is to bear the kind of weight that includes seeing your loved ones on the evening news.

She continues to narrate as she says that being the first to arrive at school meant that she often witnessed the fake corpse-outline graffiti that was a staple at their school. But what surprised her was that it wasn’t just one person—sometimes it was Hyo-shin, or Rachel, or even Myung-soo. “And today… it was Young-do.”

She wonders if it was since discovering that the graffiti wasn’t someone but everyone that she stopped being able to hate the other kids at Jeguk High. She asks if there was ever a morning when Tan came to school with spray paint in hand.

Young-do braces himself before walking up to a café window. Inside is his mother, smiling at customers. He gazes at her for a moment, but when she turns to look in his direction, he bolts behind a wall to stay out of sight and starts to cry.

Eun-sang narrates: “Even if it’s too heavy, or too cruel, or too sad, I hope that the only thing you can do isn’t to get hurt.”

Won greets Tan and VP Yoon on their return, and even praises Tan for doing a good job. He suggests they move back into the house together to show people that they won’t leave it empty, so the two brothers finally end up under the same roof.

Won asks Tan to go see Young-do about receiving power of attorney for his father’s shares, and Tan asks in return for Won to continue with his development project with Zeus. He agrees to do keep his word on that score even with Young-do’s dad in prison.

Tan goes to see Eun-sang and sticks his arms out for a bear-hug, and they have a happy reunion.

He visits Young-do next, and apologizes for having to come to him for a business matter at a time like this. Young-do guesses that Madam Jung is trying to take over the company, and sighs, “Moms. Whether you have ’em or not, they’re trouble.” Ha.

Tan knows they’re not friends, but promises to repay him for the favor if he’ll stand on their side. Young-do tells Tan to repay him now, and asks that he forgive him for the stuff he said to his mom. Aw. I really like 12 Steps Young-do. So…can you be friends NOW?

He gets up to go downstairs for dishwashing duty, which surprises Tan. Young-do points out that right now washing dishes is the only thing he has the power to do.

VP Yoon goes to see Rachel’s mom, who made it clear to Madam Jung earlier that she hadn’t yet chosen which side to take. It really only takes a moment of connection between the two exes for her to take the boys’ side, and they exchange well wishes that seem genuine and not laced with bitterness for the first time ever.

Won meets with his maybe-fiancée next, and agrees to marry her for her vote. I wish I could say this episode weren’t as choppy as it sounds on paper, but things just happen one right after the other. At this point I’m glad we even met this girl before now.

Then it’s time for the stockholders vote to edge Chairman Dad out, and despite Madam Jung’s smugness, the brothers win majority vote in the end and protect Dad’s position. She tells Won not to rest on his laurels thinking the war is over, and says they’ll be doing this again in no time (meaning when the chairman dies once and for all).

But as soon as she says the words, VP Yoon gets the call that Chairman Dad is awake, and he’s going into surgery now. Guess you’ll have to wait a little longer for your war, lady.

The brothers wait outside the surgery ward with VP Yoon and Madam Han, who is beside herself with worry. They get word that surgery went well, and she bursts into tears. Tan chides her for crying over a man who kicked her out, but she obviously doesn’t care about that now, and even Won sees how broken up she is about Dad.

Young-do returns to his mother’s café, and this time he gets up the courage to walk through the door. Mom recognizes him instantly and he just starts to cry standing there in the doorway.

She wipes away his tears and hugs him close, saying that she’s sorry she didn’t wait longer, that she didn’t go to see him. He ekes out, “Mom, Mom…” like he’s trying out the word for the first time.

At school, Hyo-shin passes his books down to Eun-sang and thanks her for being a bright spot in an otherwise dreary high school career, and she notes that it sounds an awful lot like a farewell.

Rachel gets called into the office to give her opinion on her mother’s new line, and her mom asks if she wants to take a single girls’ trip somewhere warm for the winter. At least she’s trying to be a mom now.

Her main concern is that Rachel seems to be taking her sleeping pills, and Rachel says it’s just because she hasn’t been sleeping well. Mom sends her to the psychiatrist anyway to get her own diagnosis and prescription, just in case.

Rachel runs into Hyo-shin at the doctor’s office, and he surprises her by saying rather plainly that he’s a regular patient here. He floors her with even bigger news that he’s headed to the army, and she asks if he has a girl to wait for him. He doesn’t have an answer for that.

He tells her it’s a secret, but she must’ve told Tan anyway, because he comes running to the train station to send Hyo-shin off. I love that Tan is using banmal now, calling Hyo-shin by name (and also “crazy bastard” interchangeably).

He asks how Hyo-shin could just up and go to army without even graduating high school or letting anyone know, but Hyo-shin says it was all he could think of to buy some time and distance from his parents. He knows it’s nuts, but he seems happy about the decision. Tan hugs him, which is super cute because of how awkward it is, but Hyo-shin finally hugs him back and says he’ll return safely. Aw.

Eun-sang sees that Mom is making more bean powder, and wonders why she’s making so much. Mom hesitates to admit that half is to send to her sister, who called to let her know that she got a job.

Eun-sang demands unni’s number, and Mom worries that she’s just going to start another fight, but Eun-sang surprises her by saying she’ll just tell unni that they’re living well and wish her well too.

Mom asks if she really is happy, thinking that all she does is bring her daughters more pain. Eun-sang swears that being Mom’s daughter makes her happy, and hugs her with an “I love you.”

Chairman Dad wakes up after surgery and tells Madam Jung he’ll be filing for divorce. She isn’t the least bit troubled by it, declaring that if she can’t swallow Jeguk whole, she’ll at least take half in the divorce.

Tan brings Eun-sang by for a visit, and though Chairman Dad isn’t exactly warm and friendly, he doesn’t reject the books she brings him.

Tan takes his mom for a walk out in the world as promised, but she quickly decides that this carefree business is hard. Tan points out that it’s the high heels she’s wearing, but she refuses to dress down: “It was my dream to be Miss Korea. I can’t give up the heels.” Ha.

Chan-young and VP Yoon go on a father-son fishing trip like the adorable duo that they are, and then Won and Tan totally crash it, which is even cuter. Chan-young tries to teach Tan about the art of waiting for the fish, which Tan is of course way too impatient to even listen to.

VP Yoon tells Won that the trip is in honor of final exams being over, which reminds Won to ask how Tan did this time around. Tan beams as Chan-young tells them about his fiftieth-place score, and Won looks so proud… that is, until Chan-young’s dad gapes, “Is that good? I didn’t even know there WAS a fiftieth place at Jeguk High.” Haha.

Won scowls and asks how Chan-young placed, and VP Yoon oh-so-casually says he stopped checking long ago because Chan-young is always, so predictably in first place. Hee. They’re cute when they’re being petty about the kids.

Won is instantly back to sneering at Tan after having just been so pleased at fiftieth place, and Tan drags Chan-young away in a huff for being the cause of his grief. VP Yoon asks if Won has told Tan yet, and Won says the story will be in the news tomorrow.

It turns out to be his wedding announcement they’re talking about, as we see Hyun-joo read the story in the news. This is how you let her find out? What the hell, Won? She cries alone at the bus stop after seeing the story, knowing that this time it really is over.

She meets him and takes out the wishbone he gave her long ago and breaks it. Her side is longer so she gets the wish, and she swallows back her tears as she tells him, “My wish is to break up.”

She says she always knew that despite looking at each other from across the same table, they were always worlds apart. All he can do is repeat that he’s sorry over and over. She promised to wave at him as he rose higher, and does so now. She gives a wave: “Goodbye, Oppa,” and leaves him.

Tan greets him with a barrage of questions at home about the sudden wedding, but Won just says it’s the price of the crown he wears. He tells Tan that he’s thought about it, and he doesn’t have to go to the States anymore. But instead he has to stand behind hyung and learn the family business properly.

He makes it clear that this means there is no other future for him to dream of. Won admits it’ll be a little less lonely this way, though still, they both know it’s a lonely road.

Young-do returns to the bike shop and remembers seeing Eun-sang there. He finally takes out the band-aid she gave him and uses it to wrap the cut on his finger from washing dishes at the hotel, perhaps ready to let himself heal.

Chan-young sneaks a kiss with Bo-na, and Tan receives his journal in the mail from his old professor. It’s returned with a note asking what kind of crown he was trying to wear, whether money, fame, or love.

Tan begins to write again, and as he narrates, we see Won sitting at his father’s desk. “The owner of the study has changed. Hyung rose to the place he wanted to rise to. He became strong, but at night he cried. Was his place of exile perhaps the place he lived his whole life—this house?”

As Tan writes the words, Won sits in Dad’s chair and takes out the broken wishbone, breaking down in sobs at the price he paid to sit here.

Tan becomes a senior in high school (which just makes me laugh to realize they were just juniors all this time, holy cow) and Myung-soo greets him with a camera in his face as always, while Rachel walks past without a word.

Tan warns Chan-young to watch his back in first place because he has no middle ground, and Bo-na quips, “So you’re going for hundredth place again?” Ha.

Young-do approaches, and they walk past each other with no friendly words, but no fighting either. Tan narrates that nothing has really changed, and they have yet to properly learn reconciliation.

And then he sits next to Eun-sang, who asks what it was he wished for on his birthday. He says he wished for everyone he knew to be happy, and describes a fantasy that in ten years’ time, he’ll be throwing a big party at his house, and everyone will be there.

We see his fantasy future, where Bo-na and Chan-young and still together and busy working, Hyo-shin is a movie director and still flirting with Rachel who runs her mother’s company, and Young-do is taking over the big project that Won began with his father.

Dad and all the moms are happy and well, and then Tan goes upstairs to his room, where Eun-sang is waiting, and he gives her a kiss.

Back in reality, Eun-sang says it’s a nice fantasy, and Tan says that maybe it’ll come true someday.

Tan narrates: “At eighteen, we fell for each other, we loved, we cried, we ran, we knelt, and we turned our backs on each other countless times.”

A flashback sequence brings us to the present where they walk away hand in hand, and then we fade to some time in the future as they walk down the street the same way.

Eun-sang: “But despite that, at eighteen, we ran toward each other, held hands, and held each other with all our strength. We might stumble again, or kneel again. Despite that…”

Tan: “We go forward.”

 
COMMENTS

The finale pretty much confirmed that this was a twenty-episode drama based on zero conflict and a vague notion of a story. We’ve been on this road for a while so it was no surprise, and in that respect the final episode delivered exactly what I expected—loose ends tied at warp speed, and everyone’s terrible parents suddenly being nice for no real reason other than we’re at Episode 20. I sort of wanted to ask about everyone’s lobotomies but then Dad really went and got his brain re-wired literally, so that kind of takes care of that on a meta level. I could’ve stood to see him suffer more, but he was, like most of the roadblocks in this drama, a device more than a person.

It wasn’t like I hated the drama with a fiery vengeance or anything, though I doubt it’s news that I didn’t love it. It’s just deflating when you get to the end and realize it was all empty, and the conflict that we thought was driving the entire series was basically all for nothing. Talk about a letdown. For a drama that talked of crowns and kingdoms, I still have no idea why Tan and Eun-sang had to do so much running away from each other when they were just going to defy their parents in the end and have Dad become a softy anyway, or when Tan was just going to make nice with his brother and have his cake and eat it too. What is the point? The final flashback sequence actually had the unintended side effect of making me remember just how much drama and angst there was, and for no real reason to boot. I would’ve forgotten, but thanks for the parting reminder, Show.

At least Won got a somewhat interesting ending, though it only made me wish he had been an equal star in this drama. The brothers’ relationship remained the most engaging part, and it’s really a terrible waste that it was sidelined as a bookend story rather than the meat and potatoes, which it should’ve been. I really liked that Won got the gloomier ending, and that it took him getting what he wanted all this time to fully feel the weight of what he had given up to get there. Had the brothers been the central conflict in the story, I might’ve actually cared. A lot, in fact. Oh well. Coulda, woulda, shoulda.

As a drama universe, I did like peering in on the world of kids acting like adults, and sort of skipping their youth to go be groomed to run corporations. Only you can’t really skip that part, because then everything comes out sideways as we saw with the myriad of dysfunctional relationships that populated this world. I wish the drama had said something about it other than pointing it out though, because nothing changes. The world goes on and the rich stay rich, and the dysfunction just evolves. I suppose they’re meant to be growing pains like any other, but somehow I feel like we basically got told twenty times that first-world problems are hard too. Cry me a river.

I guess in the grand scheme of things I had a better time in Episodes 19 and 20 because everyone finally got to be happy or nice, so at least we end on an up-note, even if it hurts the head a little to ask too many questions like why or how. I wish I could say that the drama followed through on its most interesting ideas, or that the romance truly earned a happily ever after by walking through the fire and sacrificing everything for love. But mostly I think we just went through the motions. We sure went through a lot of hoops, but I never once felt the temperature rise.

 
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The “Heirs” finale may have been somewhat trite, but it was ultimately satisfying to me. By referencing events from the first episode, it seemed to come full circle. For most of the characters, the choices they made this time around demonstrated growth.

Tan and Won united, as brothers should, and learned that two really is better than one. Young-Do discovered that regret doesn’t automatically erase all that you’ve done, but it may reward you, karmically, by giving you back someone you love. Eun Sang found that it takes guts to stand up against society and fight for what you want, but the rewards can be great. Ki-ah evolved into a true adult, one who takes responsibility for her actions and, accordingly, assumes ownership of herself. Won learned that putting aside his animosity toward his brother actually helped him gain what he wanted . . . but that what he wanted might not be enough to make him happy.

The Chairman Daddy volte-face was too abrupt for me to explain logically. So I’ll just say he realized that when you have a stroke and you’re dependent on someone, count on your children and not the wife you cuckolded for 18 years.

The viewers learned that a decade may pass, seasons may come and go, people may change - but Tan’s fashion sense will never improve. (That plaid suit at the imaginary party – WORDS. I have words. Tan, a clown college from the 70’s called, and it wants its suit back.).

A central theme of “Heirs” was weighing the responsibilities of privilege against finding the courage to be who you think you should be, even if that means rejecting your noblesse oblige. With Won and Tan’s endings, we saw both parts of that equation addressed. Unfortunately, Won’s ending wasn’t perfect. As life rarely is.

Even as a fan, I can admit the drama had its faults: the seeming lack of central planning; the neglect of certain characters and storylines; the wasted potential. But ultimately, the characters and themes were emotionally effective enough to make this a drama I’ll remember with a smile.
After the back and forth about what it all means, here’s what I took from “Heirs:” You don’t need to restrict yourself to the construct society assigns you - spoiled, useless rich bastard; poor working girl; the bad boy; the dependent mistress. If you have enough courage, you can and should be yourself, whether that self is an illegitimate child, a maid’s daughter, a boy who just wants his mother, or a woman learning to stand on her own feet. And sometimes, if you’re lucky and you don’t give up easily, you will find someone who loves that self just as you are. I thought that was a pretty uplifting message.

That last image of Tan and Eun Sang walking toward the sunshine together said it all for me. Having someone to hold your hand through the bad times, and to keep grasping it as you move toward the future together – isn’t that something we all want?

Thanks to the recappers. Also thanks to many of you with whom I enjoyed posting. Happy holidays and happy drama viewing to you guys!

P.S. For @August – Songs to reflect overall themes of the drama – for Tan and Eun Sang, Barry White, “Just the Way You Are.” For the rest of the characters, “Got To Be Real” by Cheryl Lynn.

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@ Faye - Although we will probably never see eye to eye on this drama, I still appreciated your posts and insight. And, truth be said on a couple of occasions where I went berserk and off the rails you at least got one or two of my wheel back on :D.

Now we can start disagreeing about that Star guy :)

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@Windsun -Well, that was a fair post. I can't argue with anything you said :).

Which Star guy?

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The drama that follows this one - My Love From Another Star.

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Ah. I'll have to see if that one is worth watching.

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@Faye

Yes! I didn't read your comment before posting mine but I think we pretty much posted the same thing in so many words.

Ah. I really loved this little show. Just like you said, I'll also remember it more fondly than some of the other "clever" or "better received" dramas.

This finale episode did it for me. I also agree that the change in Chairman was a bit sudden and maybe somewhat unrealistic, but none the less a good ending. So many tears. So many great scenes.

I'm gonna miss this show, knowing it will probably take a long while before another show comes around that will capture me like this one did. (Err, I think I have that darn dust in my eye as well, haha).

In the meantime, I'm enjoying The Prime Minister and I for my new drama series.

Are there any other shows you plan to watch or are watching? You know, to try to replace the void left by Heirs? Lol.

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@Vicky - It will be hard to shake this one for some reason, right? I'm glad the ending was happy, but it's bittersweet for me that it's over.

I watched episode 1 of "The Prime Minister and I," and thought it had promise. Nothing else at the moment. You?

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i totaly agree with you so i dont thing that i will add any thing

i 'll welly miss this drama; and its will take so much time to forget it, i will miss tan and houng do and the others so much
i locke forward to another drama like this esepiallly if the main actor is lee min hoo because he is talented
salut

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@ Faye
"The Chairman Daddy volte-face was too abrupt for me to explain logically. So I’ll just say he realized that when you have a stroke and you’re dependent on someone, count on your children and not the wife you cuckolded for 18 years."

So funny and true.

"The viewers learned that a decade may pass, seasons may come and go, people may change – but Tan’s fashion sense will never improve. (That plaid suit at the imaginary party – WORDS. I have words. Tan, a clown college from the 70’s called, and it wants its suit back.)"

They wanted Kim Tan to blend in with the paint colors of the mansion walls as he ascended the steps to his bedroom.

Nice song selections :)

"Just the Way You Are" by Barry White

Only a fool maybe takes things for granted
Just because it's here today
It can be gone tomorrow

- Kim Won and Jun Hyun Joo

I don't want clever conversation
I don't want to work that hard
I just want some someone to talk to
I want you just the way you are.

And this I promise from my heart
I could not love you any better
I love you just the way you are.

- Kim Tan and Cha Eun-Sang

Baby I love you
Yeah I love you
Just the way... You are...

- Yoon Chan Young and Lee Bo Na

You always have my unspoken passion
Although I might not seem to care

- Yoon Jae Ho and Lee Esther

“Got To Be Real” by Cheryl Lynn

What you find, ah
What you feel now
What you know-a
To be real...

- Choi Young-Do definitely kept it real with mostly everyone in his life - mother, father, Cha Eun-Sang, Kim Tan, bullied student Moon Joon Young, Jo Myung Soo, and Rachel.

P.S. Are you watching the 16 episode comedy/drama Let's Eat? It airs on tvN once a week each Thursday and us is hilarious. A word of advice, don't watch it if you are hungry or skipped a meal.

Premise: A drama about the lives of four single people living on their own, hungry for food and love. It centers around a 3-year divorcee (female lead) experiencing things with the married and unmarried people around her.

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i watched it while sharing one fried chicken (one huge plate, not one piece :p) with a friend.. ><

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@August - I liked the way you related the lyrics to the different couples.

I think I heard about "Let's Eat" - probably on this board - but haven't seen it yet. Is it on Dramafever or gooddrama.net?

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I'm not sure if it's available on Dramafever yet, but you can find it on GD.

It will brighten up your day or week. Right now, the characters are fun to watch and I get a kick out of hearing the female say "Brassi" often brandishing her pet for its antics.

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There I was enjoying the wrap-up. Everyone was dressed in beautiful evening clothes. Kim Tan walks up the stairs, the camera focused on his shoulders and...I LAUGHED OUT LOUD! OMG! What the fuck is Kim Tan wearing?!? I was laughing right up until the end. I couldn't seem to get past the plaid suit! I have picnic blankets that look so much better than that suit.

Excuse me while I laugh some more....

Oh, and yes, the wrap-up was okay. Now we can all move on.

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The opening shot of that jacket was bad. But when they showed the matching pants....laughed so loud I think my neighbors heard.

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Even after ten years, Tan still has no fashion sense! I thought the pink fuzzy sweater and the fugly sweaters were bad, but that suit reminded me of what Pee Wee Herman would wear! LOL...

Poor Won..no happy ending for him. He chose power instead of love.

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I think 29 party , was filmed at the beginning , the silly kiss and horrible clothes are the proof . The last 5 ep , was more better ( the kiss and the clothes)

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HAH ME TOO! WTF was with that plaid xD

The entire show was just meh for me. Too much anticipation and sadly - not enough delivery. I swear they could have omitted episodes 14-18 and still it wouldn't have made much difference. Meh.

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I really think the way they dressed LMH was an inside joke from the beginning, and that's why they are going to auction off his Kim Tan clothes. It's like they wanted to do that without us catching on.
I think they did the clothes joke with Young Do too, when they kept dressing him and Eun Sang as twins at the campsite. Tan's last suit seemed to be their biggest effort and it was good. It looked stupid but not silly, if you know what I mean. Even Eung Sang's dress at the end looked kind of dumb.
I do not consider this interesting enough to re-watch, but am flirting with the idea of going thru it again just to see what else they did with clothes that I may have missed. That might fill in some drama time while I wait for the space alien- which is probably going to be the theme for the next wave of Kdramas.

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Even Tan's all-white birthday suit was sort of a cliché-I've noticed, in my relatively short life-that only Asian boys can wear white suits successfully.

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@anniejang -

"I really think the way they dressed LMH was an inside joke from the beginning"

I think you must be right. It started off bad, and just got progressively more and more ridiculous. When I saw that suit, I thought, come on. They've got to be trolling us at this point.

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Umm
Guys.
You know, all of Kim Tan's clothing are actually Lee Min Ho's clothing. He bought them, paid for them and all and wore them to set.

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Possibly, but I'm dubious. That's a story that circulated in the media, but was never confirmed by him or his agency. I find it very to believe that he would shell out $50,000 of his own money for his job. Maybe he got it at huge discount from the designers and is getting a major tax write-off since he's auctioning them off.

Look at how he dresses in real life pics - just check out the pics of him going to the Heirs goodbye party. Long dark coat, normal black pants, a plain, normal dark olive sweater. Not even in the same galaxy as the clothes from Heirs.

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LMH's personal clothing choice are earth colors and plain chic. So I sincerely hope he got paid VERY WELL to model those clothes in Heirs. After all, some said they were Gucci etc. I think the next time he signs on for these things there'd be a clause that says he first has to like them to wear them. Otherwise I wont be able to live through another drama with fashion sense like this one. Seriously. What a bummer. It definitely was a major defect for me. Shallow, I know. But hey, if I want depth, I'd be watching Homeland.

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I think designers who can't sell these particular items PAID LMH lots of money to wear them for filming! What other explanation can there be?

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LMH is gorgeous- face and body but..

all white and black shoes?...pink rabbit sweater?...and that plaid suit???

His outfits made me sooo angry!!!!

I am sure now that his wardrobe had affected his viewers' perception of his character and acting.

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jajajaja ... better words ever for ever ... jajajaja
I´m I burst out laughing !!!!

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The Heirs: Kim Tan’s Fashion Episode 1- 20
posted in Opinion Pieces by La Petite

http://crazy9drama.wordpress.com/2013/12/17/the-heirs-kim-tans-fashion-episode-1-20/

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Heirs Bonus Feature Video by Dramafever

"The video includes a countdown of several top ten moments, such as top ten Young Do moments, top ten Kim Tan trolling moments, top ten Chan-Bo moments, and of course, the top ten Eun-Tan feels moments. You'll also be treated to 15 minutes of behind the scenes footage, as well as a special greeting from Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye directly..."

http://www.dramafever.com/news/video-exclusive-heirs-bonus-feature/

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Omg Faye you just read my thoughts and my feelings!
I just want add that what I love the most about Kim Tan he always but always chose his real mom never feeling ashamed !
I have so many fave scenes but the memorable one when he grab mom's hand and confessed!
I really like HS character, always true to himself! MS was a nice surprise to beat his parents!
And YD in the end won me over...
I like the end....it's not gonna be perfect all the time but having someone holding ur hands we can try to go anywhere, rite?!...it can be mom, dad, brother, girlfriend, boyfriend, friend!
Heirs brought me good memories of my high school life, friendship till today like Tan wanted, silly and sweet days, no bullying and my first love!!!!!... Lol

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@Startulle - Nice comments! I disagree slightly on one point - Kim Tan did seem to be ashamed of his mother at first, when he was in California and when he first came back. But I do like that as he evolved into accepting himself, he changed toward her as well and defended her. I also loved the confession scene.

YD won me over as well; something I never thought would happen in the first half of the show!

I agree about all of us needing someone, not just romantically. I like that the drama explored other relationships - parent/child and brother/brother as well.

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bahhhh, dat ending man...zZZZZ

I love the actors on this drama but honestly without Woo Bin this drama would be dead. I think his acting provided all the intense and emotional moments that drew you in and made me feel TEH FEEEELZ. ;_; and I think him and Shin hye had so much much more chemistry ( sorry Minho ._.).

I really want Shin hye and Woo bin in the same drama again, woo bin being lead this time :D! now that would an ace drama! *prays to dramagods&godesses*

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I loved Heirs so much! I will miss this show terribly. Thanks for your keen insights, Faye!

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IF there are any lessons that can be taking from the drama is
1- Being angry inside and hating on people for what they've done to you in the past by creating a shield around yourself & by hating others, threatening them will not help the situation, in fact you will only end up hurting yourself and being pitiful! Forgive the ones who hurt you and be humble. (Yong DO)

2- Never judge a book by its cover, they may look rich, happy, with a great family, but you never know what goes on behind closed doors, so stop wishing for somebody's life or being mean at somebody cos you think they won't be hurt.
Appreciate your life and make the best out of your situations, being respectful to others and not giving back rudeness to someone who is rude to you. Be the better person. (Kim tan being nice to his big bro' no matter what, Kim won being nicer and letting go of his insecurities)

3- You have got to work hard to achieve your dreams. Nothing in life comes very easy, you've got to work hard and know who you are, not feeling down by the ones who may be rude or bully you and not finding your self esteem in what people think of you. (Eun sang) Hard work always pays off.

4- Every dream starts with a vision. The writer of this drama Kim eun sook for any drama she wrote, it all started with a simple vision, an idea, a paper, a pen..
Then all came together and now we're seeing what we're seeing now. No matter how big your dream may seem right now, work hard. Impossible is nothing! Write your dreams, visions down and work towards it no matter how impossible, limit ridiculous it may seem right now.

Life in itself is a lesson, the best place. You learn from your mistakes, move on and become a better person. Always growing...each and every day.

Fighting Everyone! ...

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Also forgiving doesn't mean you have to go back and their best friends forever if you know they're not the ones for you, but not holding any grudges in your heart against them, and looking at them with no hate in your heart is what it is.

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Hey Faye! You might not know me but...can you tell me which drama are you gonna watch so I could read your comments??? I really enjoy it :3

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awww...that was beautifully phrased.

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"The one who wants to wear the crown, bears the crown.."
For nineteen episodes, I thought that the title of this drama was meant for our main character, Kim Tan. But in the last episode, I realised that this sentence was for Kim Won.

Truth to be told, I was really heartbroken to see Won & Hyunjoo's breakup. They were one of my favourite couples, and I have always thought that they would get together at the end. When Won gave her that wishbone in the beginning of the drama, my gut feeling said that it was gonna bring bad luck. Sadly, it did. I had a hope that they would work out at the end, and although a happy ending for everyone seems too idealistic, but I didn't think that they would lose each other after all that. But Hyunjoo is right, Won dreams to succeed in a higher place, whilst Tan dreams of making Eunsang his whole world. They each had a crown that they were chasing; Tan chose love, Won chose the company. With that decision, they have to bear the consequences that it brought. I understood why Won chose the company. Like he said, it doesn't matter what you like or what you want to do, sometimes fate itself chose you. So he has to live with that pain of losing Hyunjoo, for the sake of family and the company. The scene where he cried in the office was really, really heartbreaking. But looking at the positive light, he did fix his relationship with his brother, so it's not all sad on his part.

Choi Youngdo's reunion with his mother stole the episode for me. Kim Woobin's acting here was really brilliant. Even though I would've liked Youngdo and Eunsang to happen, but I would rather have him reuniting with his mum. I thought that Eunsang & Youngdo could be friends though. It feels like the drama had so many loose ends that left unsolved. In that sense, I'm not really 100% satisfied with the ending. I liked how they also hinted on Hyoshin & Rachel's relationship though. Making it happen too quickly wouldve made it weird imo, but hinting a possible future was bittersweet. The Heirs came with so much expectations. It did bring its share of disappointments and frustrations however. At the end of the day, it brought a good message to learn. I fell in love with some characters, and really despised how some was written.

Choi Youngdo & Lee Bona stole the drama for me. Youngdo, more at the second half of the drama though. Lee Bona was the best thing this drama offered. I'm glad she became biffels with Cha Eunsang at the end. I loved these two's friendship. It was kinda like push and pull, but really fun! Chanyoung and Bona were adorable. AND YAY! ... they got a kiss at the end of the drama. Best thing ever. Hahaha :)

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Well said! Umm I don’t know I should feel about this finale. I mean there are parts of it that I liked such as Young Do’s reconciliation with his mother which was super emotional *wipes tears off face* and also the chairwoman’s downfall (which we all kinda knew was coming). However for some reason I didn’t get a sense of closure. I think it’s because everything of plot significance was left until the last 3 episodes; like what’s with chairdad’s sudden acceptance/lack of hatred for Eun Sang? However for those who think it’s unfair that Won doesn’t get the girl in the end, it’s necessary to portray the fact-with great reward comes great sacrifice no matter how heart-breaking it is. Not everyone can have a lovey-dovey ending *cough* Chan Bo Na. Anyways, KT’s imagination at the end made me laugh. But what’s with his blue plaid suit though?

P.S. Chan Young’s dad should totally get together with Rachel’s mother. She has become less of a bitch under his influence. The same goes for Rachel and Hyo Shin.

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@JD - Won and Hyun-joo had SO MUCH potential, as a mirror to Tan and Eun-sang, and a way to flesh out the brothers more. Unfortunately, they were so underwritten that we could never even be sure whether they were actually together, dating or not, or broken up, or something else. I can get behind the idea of the breakup as bittersweet, but unfortunately it just comes off as a little lacking in logic - if suddenly-lobotomised Chairman Wheelie suddenly accepted Eun-sang, why is there any obstacle in the way of Won and Hyun-joo, especially when the circumstances are the same?

Apart from the giant waste of acting talent and latent chemistry between Choi Jin-hyuk and Im Joo-eun (who should really be paired together again, to make up for this), I felt like they would actually have been the perfect couple to focus on in an inheritance drama. The stakes would actually have felt as high as they were supposed to be when your protagonists are adults who've made their own lives to some degree, instead of high schoolers playing house.

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Won chose to marry that other girl for her vote, so that he could save Jeguk from his father's second wife. If their father did accept Tan/Eunsang, I would have imagined him to come in terms with having Hyunjoo as Won's girlfriend too. But this breakup was initiated by a different circumstance. At first it was because of the father's unreasonable wishes of marrying his kids for money and power, but at the end of the day, it was a decision that Won made himself, to bear the crown that he wore.

I agree with you though. It's still illogical. Things still could have worked out regardless. I wished she waited for him, but in saying that, it's not fair for her as well. From the beginning, I think she already felt that void between their worlds, and it's too much to be unnoticed, so that's why she ended things. It's not like Won didn't want to fight for her, cause I believe he would've thrown everything away just to be with her. But that would result in Jeguk going down. So its not like he has a choice. Like Tan said, living in the house is Won's prison itself. I do believe that things don't have to be this way though. There's other ways for Won to achieve what he wants, and have Hyunjoo by his side. That's a shame imo.

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Kim Won told Chan Young that the company was his 1st priority, his girlfriend was 2nd. Not that he didn't love her, but she wasn't the most important.

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I must say again, Heirs was a roller coaster ride for me, cresting only when Choi Youngdo/kim woo bin made his presence... This is one drama, where the character role upstaged the lead role, kudos to the story line but more so because Kim woo bin played the role to a tee. His scenes with his mother were just a few from many that showed he can be an amazing actor as he matures. I hope to see more of this young fellow in more dramas to come. I came (to see Lee Minho), I saw, and got conquered (by Kim Woo Bin).

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I agree with you on that first paragraph. All the side characters shined except for the two leads. Lee Min Ho and Park Shin Hye were hard to watch (even though they're one of my favourite actors).

In my opinion, this was the worst drama of 2013. Things just happened without logic and we were expected to make sense of it. I can't believe I spent 20 hours watching this.

What upsets me the most is that they didn't even do anything for my favourite characters. Um excuse me, where's my happy ending for Won? So he just breaks up and cries for a few nights and it's all good? He's destined for a lonely road because he took that top position?

What about Hyo Shin? Did he just rebel against his parents and since they couldn't stop him from going to the army, they just said "Oh ok do whatever you want"? And now you expect me to believe he's a director now? Last time I saw his parents, they were forcing him to shove his dream in a hole and follow what ever they say.

And Young Do and his mom. What happened there? She saw him, he saw her and that was basically the last thing we saw of her. No catching up, no information on why she never searched for him... We didn't even see anything about his dad.

And wtf is up with Eun Sang's sister? I'm starting to believe that she was just a plot device for Eun Sang to go to America in the beginning. Then the writer remembered her in the last episode and just added a quick reference to her.

Everything about this finale angers me. I just feel robbed. I want my happy ending dammit.

They wrapped it up in bows for everyone else but shit, if you're going to go make a shitty drama and end with a cliche happy ending, make it happy for all the characters. Don't leave them hanging and just making us sit there and wonder what ever happened to them.

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Last episode, yay!!! Finally! Thank you for the recap. I am back with some questions, so here they are:

1-That owl, is it a bag? (that ES has). I think someone had the same owl in MS’s playroom/studio. I remember CY holding it when KT called them to ask for help. 2-It was good that YD didn’t receive forgiveness, it keeps him indebted and humble. 3-The 3rd guy who signed (in the US), was he in TK2Hs? The one who bribed LSJ’s character (he sounded like him, and looked a little bit like him). 4-What was the point of that body outline though? Still does not make sense to me. Is there a symbolism behind it? If so, what is it? Are they emotionally dying or something? 5-ES narrated this, “Was it after they knew they were the criminals,” I think when she was either talking about the students, or YD’s family. I was just confused, who were the criminals? 6-They were speaking to Mr. Chan in Chinese (or one of the Chinese languages), right? 7-Yoon said, (when talking to Esther) “It’s a pity at least that my charm goes through?” Another subbing thing? I didn’t understand. 8-Esther, (back to Yoon), “You are using your charm without a price” meaning? 9-In ep. 18, does YD say “Eun Sang ie,” when he talks to ES’s mom?” (When he tells her that he likes her daughter). I thought I heard him say “Eun Sang-ie” (or something like that), and my friend said, “no he didn’t” I did hear something after “Sang” that sounded like “ee” or “ie.” Was I wrong? 10-HS to Rachel: “I don’t see us in a together genre film,” I don’t see us together? But then isn’t he hoping that she would be the girl waiting for him? 11-HS is repeating his (senior) year, right? (because he didn’t pass the College entrance exam, or didn’t take it). 12-Can HS leave without his parents’ permission (for the army)? Is it because he is 19 (so not a minor in Korea?) 13-Ituraya (sp?)(you idiot, so not pabo?) Maybe that’s another word for idiot? 14-*Sigh of relief* HS is not dead and not dying. 15-So KW and KT randomly have dates with Yoon and CY now? (rhetorical question). 16-Is it ES’s 1st time of what? Cooking? (What KT told ES). The next two sentences were not subbed, so what did they say to each other (she said “no,” and I don’t know what KT said after that). 18—KT to ES, “are you just happy to see me in your dreams? (Not in real life)?

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I was really curious about the body outline as well. It certainly serves as a metaphorical symbol, but as an actual one I'm wonder why it was drawn.

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Hi Momoi,
For me, especially after finding out that HS doesn't actually die, I am even more curious. Why such dark thoughts (do they want to die, at times?), why such a drawing, and why take turns?

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I thought they were gonna go all School 2013/Monstar on me and have Lee Hyo Shin jump from the rooftop. So glad it ended differently.

The outline could be one of those things, kind of like a school tradition- everyone preserves the outline, however you never discuss it. A small rebellious act in an otherwise regimented life.

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i think the outline is symbolic of how everyone of them had, at one point in time, wanted to jump off a building and end everything. but as tempting as that may seem, they know that they cannot jump, therefore they outline the body to remind themselves that in their minds they may have died a million times, but in real life they have to just hold it in and walk on.

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Hyo Shin could ended up with his best loved. His tuition teacher, his personal tutor, now that she has ended her relationship with Kim Won.

The reason to repeat finals in High School, so that he can meet up with her again. Purposely prolonging his school days. So that when Hyo Shin come back for her, he is now a grown-up man after his army days. More mature, more man.

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Hello TeaCharmer,
I didn't watch School 2013 and Monstar. Does someone jump from the rooftop in those dramas? I am sooo curious now.
I like your take on the outline, it makes sense. Thank you for sharing your thoughts.

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@ Curious,
Interesting take on the outline, which makes sense to me.

@ tanny,
based on the plot, HS does not end up with his tutor. When he realized that she was Won's girlfriend, he was hurt, humiliated and walked out. We then see him flirting with Rachel, even in KT's dream, 10 years later. I think the writer left an open ending (possible hook-up for HS and Rachel) in the last episode. HS moved on from his tutor. She might have been his first love, though. So she meant a lot to him.

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The body outline was drawn by originally drawn by someone who was definitely thinking of jumping-probably Lee Hyo Shin. Remember the day Kim Tan first showed up at school and had that stare-down with Young Do, Hyo Shin was leaning on the rail right over that spot.
But the surprise for me was finding out that several of the students were re-enforcing it when they were feeling suicidal. That's what Eun Sang realized as she watched them come and redraw the lines, one after another, and realizing that their lives were as hard as hers was. so she stopped hating them and felt sorry for them.

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1. The owl is a hand warmer.
6. Yes, it was Chinese
13. I think you are referring the Korean word for "kids"

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Thanks Windsun33 for the info. I didn't know it was a hand warmer, the whole time I was watching the show. I kept assuming it was a backpack, *SMH* Another blatant PPL for the show, I take it. Gotta pay those actors right?!

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Ridiculously high-priced for a ridiculous thingy.

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Hi Rachelle,

And thank you! And no, 13 is not the word (in Korean) for "kids". The word for kids is different, KW used it in yesterday's ep., when KT and ES were arguing in the cafe, and he tried to calm them down. I don't want to embarrass myself here and try to write what I heard, but I know it is not 13. Hopefully, maybe Adette will see my questions and will respond to some of them :-). She always (usually) helps me with the language bits, when she sees my questions.

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I just watched that part again and KW definitely said "kids" or "children", that word means both. Not an expert on Korean but I hear that word a lot at school.

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Rachelle,

I am wondering if you didn't watch ep. 19. That is the only place where I remember KW call KT and ES "children." I think I heard "Ituraya" (and mind you, I am just spelling what I heard, the way I heard it, so my Romanization is not even correct), being said by KT to HS, at the train station. KT called him idiot, and I was expecting to hear "pabo," and I didn't so I was a little surprised (not that I know the whole Korean vocabulary, I am aware of that). I will go back and check as well.

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I also just rewatched ep. 20, about 28 mns and 38mns in, and KT (after having found HS at the train station), grills him about leaving for the army without telling anyone. At some point he says something that sounds like, "Ya! Ituraya!" or "Ya! Eeturaya,"(again, I am just writing it the way I heard it), and that was translated as "Hey! You idiot" on the site I watched the ep. on.

Sooo yep, I stand by what I said...

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what he said is 이 돌아이 야 which means you crazy person or something to that effect.

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Thank you, curious, I appreciate it. I guess my subs had "you idiot!" as a translation.

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I very much suspect that the original plot had someone jumping off the roof, thus the body outline. There were so many changes and rewrites in the last 6 episodes hard to tell what the original plot was supposed to be.

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@Windsun, I agree. I think the original script did have a suicide or in the least suicide attempt.

I wish the writers could finish filming these dramas before it starts airing. I hate that they sometimes make changes to the script based on feedback.

For example, I feel KES made changes midway to include less adults and more of the high schoolers.

Though I am satisfied with how it ended, I will forever be curious as to what the show would have been like without any changes.

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@ Vicky,
I like your perspective on the drama. What makes you say that KES made changes midway? I am kind of curious about that.

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@Ivoire, thanks :)

I read a lot of the messages and blogs that cover the show, and I notice the writer seems to respond to some of the negative feedback in her storylines.

For example, a lot of us were disappointed in the first kiss & thought the closet scene would have made a better kiss. So a couple of episodes later we get a steamy kiss in the closet.

Also, I feel the show was more serious in the beginning, but about midway through, it became much more comedic with a bigger focus on the kids. I feel the writer made these changes due to the disappointing ratings in the beginning. And kudos to her cause it worked. However personally, I preferred the way it was in the beginning. I also feel these changes is why it sort of lost its way a bit in the end. Episode 19 was very anti-climatic.

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I think South Korea suicide cases are record high. I think the writer KES changed her mind not to advocate or encourage the youngsters to solve problems with suicide. Heirs draw a record number of youngsters viewers.

This is to reference Choi Ji Woo's "The Suspicious Housekeeper" that got warnings due the suicide plot in the drama.

http://www.kdramastars.com/articles/12798/20131206/the-suspicious-housekeeper-and-suicide-attempts-result-in-warnings.htm

Dec 06, 2013 09:09 PM EST
'The Suspicious Housekeeper and Suicide Attempts Result in Warnings.

"The Suspicious Housekeeper" received warnings for repeated attempts of suicide for 7 year old girls as well as other people and showed scenes of young kids using slang when it was broadcast during a time that was supposed to protect the youth and violated Chapter 43 - Articles 1 and 2 "Regulations About Broadcasting Levels", Chapter 44, Articles 2, 51 for broadcasting language and for Chapter 3 violations.

In addition, KBS2 "Mirae's Choice" showed, "This XX bastard" "Wow that is like XX" and showed the male protagonist cursing and took care of the sound effects and the mouthing and even featured sexual innuendos such as "How did you tempt him? Did you sleep with him?" and other sexual comments as it was given a warning in violation of regulations 27 (maintenance of dignity) Chapter 1, Article 51 (TV broadcast) and Chapter 3.

In addition, KBS2 "Our Family Entertainment" is only featuring a certain sporting good company's attire and only covered the logo for their entire group outfit as it was released for a long time. It also received a 'warning.'

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Thank you tanny,
For sharing this. I did know about the suicide cases in Korea (and that it has been an issue), and it would make sense that KES would change the script eventually, considering her audience. Thank you also, for the added info about the government's reactions to Suspicious Housekeeper.

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@Windsun - That makes sense, especially when you consider how much they focused on it in camera shots in the early school episodes. But if it was a plot point, I'm glad they took it out.

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I am glad they took out the suicide (or potential suicide attempt) out as well. That would have been so not needed.

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@ Windsun33
How do you know about the many changes (in the script) and rewrites? I am just curious...

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Inductive reasoning. One supposes it is so because it seemed to be implied in the earlier episodes. Implied pertains to camera focus and discussion of the body outline. Which again points out that the drama veered off course. Either that or the writer forgot to take her happy pill, hence, we got dished out those bipolar episodes midway through.

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He asked her if she wanted to cook for him every morning. Then, "Was that a proposal?" She says basically, "You wish." and runs off.

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Oh OK, submonkey!
And thank you! My subs had ES say "no," before she stuck her tongue out (I could see that part) and ran off. I like "you wish, " better.

So, I have another question for you, if you can remember: in one of the ep. in CA (in the US), when they are eating, KT says, "you are cute!" and I have seen translated (ES's answer, that is) as "As long as you know it," and (ES saying), "I know." Those are two different things to me. Do you remember what she said? I always struggled to figure out exactly what it was that she said. If you don't remember, that is OK.

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9) Korean uses a lot of object/subject/topic/etc marking particles in sentences in order to differentiate the different roles of things being talked about. In this case, when you heard the 'ie' after Eunsang, it probably referred to the subject-marking particle for words that end in consonants '이' (whereas 'ga'/가 is used for words that end in vowels).

16) Apparently Tan was hinting that Eunsang was trying to propose to him (cooking for him every day would imply - somewhat misogynistically, in my opinion - Eunsang's desire to be his wife) and that his question of 'is this your first time' can sort of be interpreted as 'is this your first attempt ever in real life to propose to someone (because you're so bad at it since it's too subtle)'

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WOW!!!! Great insights! Thank you! I will be back to respond...

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9. yup, youngdo does say eunsang-ee, its a more personal way of calling someone, as opposed to the full name, cha eunsang, like what he usually calls her.
(remember, whenever she called him youngdo-yah, he said dont call him that)

hope that helped!

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Thank you westerngirl!

That totally helps, because I knew what I had heard,and the person I had communicated with was insisting on the fact that YD had not said anything. Thing is, I know what "Eun Sang" and "Eun Sang-ee" would sound like, and I knew I didn't not dream it. Seems to me, she wanted to be right in the end, which is sad.
Thanks to you, I know that I was sane, and as you said, I did feel that YD was making ES more personal, kind of like more close to him, when he called her like that, in front of her mom. I guess my guess/intuition on that were right as well.

Do you know why YD did not want ES to call him Young do-yah? Was it because he wanted her to like him romantically and he knew it would not happen? So he didn't even want the appearance of closeness? I was confused about that.

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I'm pretty sure he didn't want her to call him Young do-yah because it signifies that they're close and rather friendly. The "-ee" and "-yah" are endearments that people put at the end of names so my dad always calls me, "Molly-yah" rather than "[Last name] Molly" or he calls my friends like, "Yoo Bin-ee" because it denotes a sense of closeness.

Remember in an earlier episode when she wanted to be friends, he was all like, "No, I've always seen you as a woman and my first love, not a friend" blah blah blah? It's like, if she starts calling him in a friendish way, it takes away the image that he has of her being his unattainable first love

(Koreans have this obsession with unrequited first loves in dramas and movies; it's great. My dad wouldn't stop talking about his first love after watching Intro to Architecture w/ Suzy)

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Then what Cha Eun Sang call Kim Tan? Never heard any aegyo cute calling. Whenever CES call him will be "Kim Tan!!!"

Kim Tan rebuked Hyo Shin in Ep10 in the hall. Tan didn't go to the camp, Hyo Shin called CES, Eun Sangii. Tan was angry, rebuked his sunbae for calling his CES, Eun Sangii, "Are you that close with her?" "Don't call her like that!"

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Hello tanny,
And I agree with you, I don't recall ES calling KT any aegyo names. She usually did call him KT, as you pointed out.
Thank you for reminding me about ep. 10. Was that when KT and HS were in the auditorium, sitting down and talking? (they both didn't go to camp). I will have to rewatch it. I didn't know that HS called ES, "Eun Sang-ii" (I forgot about that, I think).

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Hello Molly,
Thank you for clarifying things for me. I love the way your dad calls you and your friends, and what it denotes. I can relate to that.
I have noticed the importance of 1st loves in Kdramas, didn't realize how important it is to Koreans. Though I do know that JB and GF cover that theme in their book.

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@Ivoire. Hi Ivoire. You are very enthusiastic about Heirs, always asking lots of questions.

Yes, it's Ep10.

Both KT and HS was chit-chatting. HS asked KT "why KT not going for his last camp?". HY said "Eun-sangii went to the camp". KT replied "he wants CES to miss him". KT then realized that HyoShin sunbae was calling his CES, Eun-sangii, Eun-sangii. KT was offended. KT wants to claim the rights that Eun-sangii is only for him alone to call and no one else, but KT.

Hi Ivoire, are you having a withdrawal symptom now? Re-watching Heirs?

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Hello again tanny (do you have that screen name because of KT? :-) )

Yes, I tend to immerse myself fully into a drama, when I watch it. I think I know the scene you described. They were in the gym (or an auditorium), and KT and HS also discussed HS's suicide attempt in the US, right?
I really did not remember that bit about KT getting jealous about HS calling ES, Eun Sang-ii, but I believe you. It is something that KT would do, so I am not surprised.

No, I am not having withdrawal symptoms. I am actually glad (like really glad) the drama is over, so I can move on with my life. I had organized my life around this drama, and it was time consumming. I was also curious about how it would end, so now I know. I don't have plans to rewatch Heirs right away, except maybe for YD's scenes, that I know I will do. Like I said, I need to go handle my life :-)

What about you? Missing Heirs? Are you rewatching? I did like that I learned a lot, while watching it, because I asked a lot of questions, and I was very engaged, and other beanies benefited as well, which was good. It was good to read from you, thank you for answering my questions, I appreciate that.

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I recommend u to watch it on dramafever, about the subbing the parts u ask i remeber were subbed in other words on there, and they seemed to make sense

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Hi mimi91,
And thank you! I don't get DF. For some reason, it doesn't work on my computer anymore. Also, DF didn't release the episodes the same day (I don't think), and that would have made it hard for me to have watched the episodes and be able to ask my questions here on the day the recaps were posted. That was why I would watch the episodes on a different site.

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A lot of us in other parts of the world don't get DF. It's only exclusive to North America and I don't know where else.

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You can't get DramaFever in Europe, and I don't know where else. I think you're right about it only being in North America. I was watching epdrama for better subs than viki-but now, with Heirs I'm getting a "This is Licensed" message, and couldn't watch the second half there. I generally watch dramas first on viki as they are being subbed, then on epdrama to clear up what's really being said.

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Young Do steal the show, I only watch his scenes..
Kim Woo Bin should get a girl next time!

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I think Young Do will get a girl but another one.

Hyo Shin will get his private tutor who has broken up with Kim Won. I mean Hyo Shin will surely, confirm, put his top priority on this girl than Kim Won who put his 1st priority to Jeguk Corp anytime. The girl will be won over time. Age difference 7 years. Love overcome all barriers. See, Kim Tan and Eun Sang. Learn from them. Status, ranking in society, wealth gap, social background, ruthless bashing from parents, didn't get into their way.

Young Do with Rachel. They can't be half brother-sister but they can be lovers in future. Yes, Young Do hasn't heal his wounds over Eun Sangii, but time will heal any wound. Young Do now no longer a bully and Rachel not bitchy anymore, I'm sure Young Do will see Rachel as a woman in future.

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Aww those 10 weeks went by fast.

Pleasing finale overall, but I was hoping for some surprises throughout the show. Though Hyo Shin's decision was. It made me a little sad, but that hug between him and Tan was sweet. Awkward in those giant jackets, but sweet. And i loved that time skip scene. I do hope it comes true.

Young Do's story was the most engaging for me. It is a sad story, but I think it was meant to be that way. He was a really big jerk at the beginning of the show, and too many shows display that all being forgiven overnight. In this case, he had to suffer some more for his actions, and is finally able to take the steps forward in his life.

Won is similar. He treated Tan so terribly in the beginning of the show among other people, and lost Hyun Joo in the end. It was really heartbreaking, partly because you never knew if they would end up together.

Mothers are a huge motif through the show. Almost everyone's relationship with their mothers is important in some way, from Won's lost mother, Eun Sang, Hyo Shin, Rachel, Young Do, Tan, etc. I really liked how we had a broad spectrum of mothers in the show. I loved Eun Sang and Tan's moms together. Those two need their own spin-off.

There are some major things I wish the show did:

1. I LOVED the huge cast...but I wish there was more focus on the other characters. Folks like Myung Soo, Hyun Joo, Couple #1 BoYoung, and less staring.

2. The show would have benefitted IMO to have that light-hearted tone and lots of humor more throughout, and not just in the beginning and end.

3. Pacing could have been better. It started off nice and slow, just exploring daily life, but then it seemed to rush a bit.

4. I didn't like how Tan got angry at every single provocation from Young Do. I loved his personality at the beginning, but it got kind of annoying as the show went on.

5. I do wish the broadcasting club had a bigger role throughout, like Eun Sang speaking over the intercom.

This drama was still enjoyable for me to watch. Never understood why people sit through dramas they hate. With that said, "Heirs" probably won't be a drama I rewatch for fun. It was nice the first time through, but lacks enough humor and cuteness for me to watch a second time (plot in stories can only get me through once anyway, so this is true for dramas with great stories). Slight shame since I've been wanting to see Park Shin Hye and Lee Minho together for a while.

Some things I liked: Chan Yoon and Bona, Esther and Chan Young's father's relationship, Hyo Shin and Hyun Joo and some of the themes explored. I wish some of the themes and symbols were more focused throughout, like the dreamcatcher or "a midsummer's romance". I liked how the wishbone and Tan's journal showed up again in the ending though.

I GREATLY appreciate the drama for showing not everyone gets their happy ending at the same time. Not everyone gets paired off and lives happily right away. It's harsh, but I think it helps people who haven't found their happiness quite yet.

"Heirs" probably won't be one of my quintessential romances, but I enjoyed the ride :)

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I agree that mothers do play a huge role in their children's lives as so do fathers. But it's the mother to nurture and teach their children love, patience, and affection. The fathers teaches their children tough love, skills, and hard bu meaningful lessons.

I can see the relationships the young casts had with their mothers and the relationship that I have with mine. We're not close and we only get to see each other once a year because I live 2000 miles away, so not having someone there to ask you how've you been or how you're living gets tough. Overall, whether your parents are together or not, a parent and a child should always stay connected.

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Yay I love heirs and am going to miss it.

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My problem with watching again isn't wanting more humor and cuteness, but wanting more surprises, more mysteries, specifically, birth secrets, plural. Which would be the ideal type of mysteries with big corporate wars.
Of course, romance has to be the central theme with gorgeous people playing teens, (who live for love). but a long story like that is so much more fun with mysteries. Even if we know the answer, and the lead actor(ress) doesn't, as in the Moon that Embraces the Sun, or Bridal Mask, or Time Between Dog and Wolf---a couple of these involved amnesia, but boy, that just hypes up the excitement really big, waiting for the 'reveal'.
Or waiting to find out who's who, even waiting with dread to find out if the lead's in love with his own sister (OMG NO!!!).
that's the kind of stuff that makes these difficult love stories exciting!
Just having a mean girl playing push-pull with a devoted guy (Eun Sang with Kim Tan) for 18 episodes! does not say: 'Watch again!' to me. Too little too long.

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It's also not on my re-watch list. Do I want to see horrible, ugly clothes again? Hell, no!!!

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Please dear God, tell me that in 10 years into the future Tan's suit that he is wearing in his flash-forward is not in style.
(shakes magic eight ball)

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haha I guess a decade can't even change some of the worst fashions :P

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Seriously can not decide what is worse the sweaters or that suit. Good grief!!!! lol!

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I read that LMH bought a lot of the clothes himself, US$50,000 or so, so that he doesn't have to wear sponsored clothes. He is going to auction off the clothes for charity.

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Im an omma too but I love all his clothes, suits and all, coats especially. wheres your fashion sense.

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Kim Tan, Super 8 Motel called, they would like their curtains back.

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omg...I totally just snorted! lol!!!

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You owe me a keyboard, I just snorted coffee all over it.

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sorry

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omg yes xD You, my dear, win the comments section

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LOL ......you made ma day !!!!

Thanks.

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Have to agree with your comment about that suit in episode 20 it does look like curtains from a motel, but for me it was the Bates motel from Psycho not Super 8.

The only thing that counteracts that very poor suit choice is how he was dressed in Episode 17 (approx 38 min) when he's waiting for he outside the bookstore.

That long white coat, with the dark pants and cream sweater made be go YUM!

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Hahahaha that's what I thought. Even in his imagination his fashion sense sucks.

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Mehheh.

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Did I love this show?
Did I sob like a baby during episode 20?
Am I left wondering what I'm going to do with my Wednesdays & Thursdays now (I guess it's back to Scandal)?

What a roller coaster this show has been. Episode 20 was phenomenal to me (might be in the minority here going by the recap). It more than made up for the filler episode that 19 was.

I don't care about all the naysayers. I thought this show was excellent. Was it perfect? no. Are there areas that could have used improvement? Sure. But with all its flaws, it was still a GEM.

The writer did a great job wrapping up the finale. All the loose ends were tied, and it wasn't overly cheesy.

a) I cried when YD hugged his Mom. I cried when ES hugged her mom. I cried when Won cried in the study. I cried when KT was finally able to walk down the street with his mother arm in arm. I cried when Chairman sorta kinda accepted ES. So yeah, I basically sobbed through the entire episode.

b) I was sad to see Won not get his happy ending but I guess that was to be expected. The scene with him crying in the study was heartbreaking. In a weird way, Won sacrificed his happiness not just to get to the top for himself, but also for Chairman and KT.

c) It was nice to see YD apologize to the kid he bullied. It was also very realistic for the kid to reject that apology. I was secretly hoping Secretary Yoon or is it VP Yoon now would end up with Esther(after she changed), but I guess that wouldn't be realistic.

d) I enjoyed the mini time jump that wasn't really a time jump. Well done KES.

e) The actors in this series were all excellent. KWB is just phenomenal. As were LMH and PSH. I don't think any one of these actors is better than the other. Some had more challenging roles than others but at the end of the day, they all stepped up to the plate when the scene called for it.

f) A lot of people wondered why KT fell in love with ES and it's funny because KT & YD both fell in love with ES for the same exact reasons. In going back to watch episode 1, KT and YD both met ES the same way (encountering her from afar and watching her). They both loved her because of what she is and represents. ES is pure, kind, caring, loyal, and just good. She's nothing like the girls in their school who are mostly materialistic. She's the mother they both missed & needed. She represents something they're both not used to.

I'm really going to miss this little show. It reminded me of 'The OC' (popular American series from years ago). It had that same magic to me. I enjoyed reading all the recaps and all the comments. I'm going to miss that too.

I look forward to seeing what the writer and stars do next. And what relationships come from the show. I mean there's just too much pretty for there not to be any hook ups right? :)

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Preach it, sister! Join me in letting our "Heirs" fans freak flags fly. I loved this episode. I thought KES more than made up for the last one. We got resolution in some form for everyone in a way that was true to the characters.

You were crying, you said? Hmm. I wasn't. But there did seem to be dust or something in my room, causing my throat to close up and my eyes to water. Ahem. Must speak to the housekeeper about that.

I completely agree with your overall assessment of the show. It had its faults, but the writer and actors really made me care about these people. I will remember Heirs long after I've forgotten other, more "clever" dramas.

I'll miss reading your comments and having another Heirs fan here -we were such a vanishingly rare species. This feels like the end of summer camp, LOL.

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Nah, you might be rare HERE, but a lot of other sites are all squee-ey and stuff :D

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@Windsun33 - I don't really want squee-ing. I think most of us here who were fans (all 2.5 of us) were very open in expressing the show's deficits as well as what we liked about it. However, it would have been nice to see some balance in the discussion, and IMO I found that to be really lacking at times.

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Fashion-sense wise Kim Tan pretty nailed it :) He is a good look guy who is not only limit to black and white, open up your eys guys .... :) I just lurv the whole thing about Heirs .. bring it on :)

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You are not in the minority. I love this show Period. I was watching episode 20 out in public on my tablet and started to get teary eyes at certain parts: Young Do's meeting with his mom, Won crying in the study, and HS's army parting with Tan. A pool attendant approached me asking if something was wrong. I was slightly embarrassed and confessed that I was watching a Kdrama called " Heirs." He burst out with "Is it on already?" We bonded over this show, and I got free drinks from him afterward. After, I walked down Kalakaua Ave. in Waikiki being slightly tipsy, watching the sun set into the ocean, thinking about how really cold Korea was at that moment. My point was, even though I had a great ocean/beach view, the show was so addicting that it managed to intrude into my reality. And my reality was not a bad place to be. Last show that did this to me was That Winter, the Wind Blows, before that was Secret Garden, Coffee Prince and My Lovely Samsoon. LMH, you have finally arrived on my list of Guys who made me swoon: Gong Yoo, Huyn Bin, Jo In Sung, and now, Lee Min Ho. By the way, I love how crazy Kim Tan was about Eun Sang. He was obsessive, abrupt, and so bossy to her, but I just love that Love is the Moment look in his eyes when he stared at her.

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I so agree with what you said in this post, yenlinh tran. I had enjoyed watching this drama immensely. I find Heirs very addicting and LMH truly engaging. I liked TWTWB, Secret Garden, Hyun Bin & Jo In Sung too, just like how I am liking Heirs & LMH. :-)

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Yayy fellow Heirs fan! Woooo I agree too. I thought there could have been more to the story line, but the acting and everything is excellent and I love the general feel to this drama.

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I loved this show from the beginning, esp. the 1st 8 eps, when it was introducing the chars and the worlds they lived in. Then YD changed and KWB got phenomenal! The recaps and comments got so negative that I stopped reading. Better to enjoy it on my own.
The last 2 eps are not exciting for me. It was a wrap up, but the amt of narration sort of broke the spell.

Next Wed and Thurs, we'll have that 400 year old alien falling in love with a diva actress thingy. Hope it'll be good.

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Hello! I just want to say that I'm also the minority here who've actually enjoyed Heirs despite its flaws.

1. I like that not everyone gets a happy ending (for Won, he knows that its his price to pay to reach the top and I'm sure he would've made the same choice if he's given another chance).

2. I like that Young Do's reunion with his mom doesn't automatically mean a happy ending it's-like-we've-never-been-apart. There are questions to answer, e.g., why she left in a huff in the first place.

3. I like that I got to see the lives of these bunch of 18-year olds - their ups and downs, their interactions, their drives.

It's been a fun ride for me!

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Damn right! You stand by what you think, girl! Not that I agree with you coz I think KES plain sucks but I respect your opinion.

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Herihead episode titles completed!

1 Dry Cleaning Only
2 Dreamcatcher
3 I ♥ California
4 Page 16
5 Wishbone
6 Parvenu (or New Money)
7 Pale Pink Angora
8 ‘Don’t Answer’
9 Mom Mother Mistress
10 Matching Shoes For Camp
11 Stocks Skyrocket
12 Open The Door
13 Kicked Out
14 Getting Back Together Party
15 Baby Blue Mohair
16 Closet Kiss 34:41
17 24,030 won
18 Try Living
19 Arachnoid Hemorrhage
20 My Cold High School Years

I’ m going to argue that episode 20 was a good ending. I really loved the 10-years-later party so much so that I wish the drama would have started there and the story unfold as a backstory drama. I have a reason for this: the lack of angst was because there was no teen, a common complaint that ran throughout the posts starting waaay back with the trailers. Had the drama started when they were 29 and told a back story, that might have remedied the angst-less acting issue. The ending as the starting place would have made more sense to me. ES turned out to be the lease interesting in the last episode and Won the most pitiful as the one who remained a prisoner in his own life, but it was believable as his character. While Won and Tan’s reconciliation was very rushed, I’m glad it happened. Even baddie daddie, brain surgery may have scared some a touch of human kindness in that ol’ geezer’s soul. Young Do’s story felt incomplete, like he was cheated in the wrap up even though he and his mom met up, and he had some moments of reflection and repentance that felt sincere. LMH does handsome chaebol best, and again, it was the teen-ness of his role that messed up how his character played out. Although his birthday wish “for everyone I know to be happy” sounded like Miss America’s standard “I wish for world peace.” I do think he is a decent actor. Tan’s mom as Miss Korea – I could see it – ha!

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The ending for me was better than expected, but left a lot of things unfinished I thought, and some things were just wrapped up way too neatly.

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@Windsun, what parts did you feel weren't tied up or finished? I've been reading this a lot and am curious, because I thought the writer tied up all the loose ends -- some too neatly like you stated. Chairman's sudden change of heart was a little too convenient.

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Just a couple things off the top of my head - but why did Young Do's mom leave in the first place, and why did she never try to contact him? But I guess really I just thought that some tie-ups were almost an afterthought.

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We can pretty much assume that she had "spousal abuse" or domestic violence problems so bad that her only way out was to leave, and didn't even dare contact YD for fear of being found by his dad.
Ever watched Julia Roberts' Sleeping with the Enemy?

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I think Chairman Kim who has always love Kim Tan more than Kim Won, and after his near-to-death situation, must have surely realized that he, Daddy Kim actually love his son too much to let Tan suffer again, before his coma. Daddy finally open his heart to see and not only to see with his eyes but his heart (as Tan always tell CES to use her heart).

I think Papa Kim just soften up to both of his sons and he seems no longer forceful to match-make them anymore. Papa Kim after awoke from his death bed, realized his own legal wife, JS, is not as decent, quiet and obedient as she seems to be. But KA (Tan mom) is.

Papa Kim finally see that KA is the only one that truly loves him (besides Won Mom). JS is just scheming and waiting for opportunity to seek revenge. Now JS will fight in court for her half of Jeguk, for their divorce proceedings.

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funny thing is, the actress that plays Tan's mom, Kim Sung-Ryoung, was actually the 1988 Miss Korea!

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Oh, I didn't know, so funny! And clever to put in the show :) It did bug me that at the 10 year reunion (I guess it was in tan's imagination, so not real?) the Mom, Mother, Mistress situation was the same although I guess it's a cultural thing? Also, did we see Won's wife there? Anyhoot, I still maintain that introducing the cast as 29year olds (since they practically are) at the start and working backwards would have been a better fit for this case. One more down for my real fake kdrama life!

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Agree that the party would have been a better starting point. But I'd start the flashback with a scene from their very early childhood, showing their 'natural' personalities, and how those personalities became distorted by their parents. (Something like showing them gathered as young children for a playdate. Goodnatured conflict arises and everyone goes home to a parental lecture about how they should have responded. But the parents' guidance has more to do with reinforcing their own adult pecking order than nurturing the kids to be kind and cooperative.). For me, something like this would have given the teenage characters context and made them far more sympathetic from the outset. It also would have established a clear starting point for each character, as we then watch them making choices to work through their issues (or not) and establish their own identity and life goals (or not).

But this is really all moot. Just like the parents were so focused on what they loved (companies) that they largely overlooked the needs of their kids; the show was so focused on what it loved (central romance) that it largely neglected the development of its characters.

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This show was enough reason to watch for the eye candy...

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Love the Eye Candies par excellence, and the fashion, including Tan's --it adds to the entertainment factor. All Giorgio Armani Black and proper for the guys would be boring.

BTW, I've seen some of Tan's sweaters on other K celebs. LSG e.g. has worn that sweater that Tan wore when he first returned to SK and went to find CES at her regular school.

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Thanks for the recap.I will miss heirs alot, eventhough its is not the best drama in terms of anything or everything, for me its still one of my favorite dramas it is like choosing heart over mind cause sometimes i really don't understand why the story is like that but i still enjoyed it. I did'nt quite like the ending, it felt that the writer just needs to wrap up every conflict without actually solving it by showing Tan's wish as a happy ending.It is also like Tan and Won are preparing for an epic battle but the battle itself is not just epic, they are so many interesting chracters but they focus more on the war between brothers. I also love KT and ES couple but i wish they just dont focus much on love is pain thing but still looking forward to Lee Min ho and Park shin hye's next project, i hope this will be LMH last highschool student role i want to see him in action drama like in city hunter, i really hope there will be city hunter season 2. Also i want to see PSH in different role not the candy type heroine.. Also i hope KWB will be the lead for his next drama cause he is such a really good actor, he made an pyschotic,evil,bully highschool student that you really want to hate lovable,its like his magic. I will also miss the cutest couple in the whole world Chan young and Bona, they are the reason why i survived this drama especially Bona, she is a comic relief and i really like her in her own little world that everything is about her and CY.

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I hope this is the last time I watch LMH as school kid, he can do much better than this

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I think this is the last time. LMH said that he wanted to play a high schooler one more time before he turns 30,so I guess this is the end for his high schooler acting.

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Despite all flaws and dissatisfactions, I really liked Heirs :)

Simply loved watching Lee Min Ho and Park SHin Hye together...they were really sweet....

also loved other characters as well like YD, Bona, Hyo-shin, Chan-young and of course both moms....

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And some of my comments:

1—Omoni (KT) to appeal to MS’s mom. I liked that he was asking for professional help, but appealed to her motherly instinct.

2—KT got what he wanted, to live in the house with his hyung.

3—Right after the meeting, Chairman dad wakes up? How convenient…

4--I need to rant: I loved the acting in the scene about YD and his mom, but I couldn’t feel sorry b/c I felt so cheated. I wanted to see more. Why couldn’t that have happened sooner again? When she was where? In Seoul all this time? And she couldn’t look for her son? I wanted to see YD build a relationship with his mom, maybe move in with her (instead of his aunt), get some home cooked meals, hear him laugh with his mom (we don’t hear him laugh in this drama), put his head on her lap (the mom), take walks with her, tell her about ES, leave in the morning for school and say bye to his mom, etc… I feel SO. CHEATED! I wanted to see how he was getting better, maybe seeing him get therapy.

5- I feel like KW lied to HJ: “Go to the US, I will come get you”, and then (in bed), “wait for me (at the bottom), I will come for you”. Did he mean that? And then he said “don’t do it,” (break the wishbone). Why not? So she can be a mistress too? (I don’t feel sorry for them, sorry).

6—“Don’t go to the US”, (KW), we couldn’t have had that sooner? Some of us were waiting for some serious bromance, putting their brains together (the brothers), hatching up an amazing plan against evil daddy, *Le Sigh*

7—CJH looks good with his hair up. 8—LOL at LMH’s suit. I literally did LOLed. What does he think when wearing such outfits?8—Chairman daddy is all good now? (As in a good guy?) (end of episode). How easy, how flat.

SOME OF MY FAVORITE LINES:

1-YD to KT“Even when I worry about you, you complain.” 2—Yoon, “it feels to me that once you are in college, BN will be in charge of your relationship.” LOL, true, and…Errrr, what makes you think that she is not in charge of it now, dad?

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Hi Ivoire,

I also felt that Won's storyline was just a convenient plot device. I mean, someone has to bear the weight of the crown for the tittle to make sense. KT got love and the cushy lifestyle so Won had to make up for it. I understood that the reason for Won agreeing to marry that girl was because she was his saving grace to get majority of the vote. Even if the other group only got 44% I take it that the vote had to be majority, not plurality. And with the slight margin over 50% it is possible that they could not have won the war without that girl.

As for everything else you mention, I'm right there with you. Except that I loved YD finding his mom purely for KWB's acting. I think I'm in love. I liked him a lot before but now I've progressed into pure, absolute, possibly creepy love. :D

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@Eileen - I feel bad for KW. He had to give up his girl to keep the company and power; he may have chosen money but he also chose responsibility. On the other hand, KT got all the riches, the girl, and other nice things for being irresponsible and whiny; he didn't have to give up anything (for his love) because his brother did. He is the hero of this drama?? I was super angry!................................I loved YD and his mom's meeting. Yes, good acting there :) However, I do wish we could have seen more YD and his mom scenes. Oh well, at least his story had growth and redemption and ended well - not all pretty or like icing on the cake :). His story was sad but his growth and redemption are realistic. I also loved the other YD scenes as well. He totally let go of ES, probably even her memory, when he used the band-aid she gave him before. I also loved that his father cares for him even if he was a jerk to YD :)

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