Ryu Seung-ryong and Suzy cast as teacher and student in sageuk film
by javabeans
Er, this isn’t the most natural-sounding pairing, but let’s hear it out: Ryu Seung-ryong (The Target, Miracle in Cell No. 7) and Suzy (Gu Family Book) have been cast together in a period film based on the real life of Shin Jae-hyo, a writer, teacher, and patron of pansori, a traditional form of musical storytelling. He lived in the 1800s in the latter Joseon era during the reign of Gojong, and was the first to train women in the art.
The movie is titled Dorihwaga, which is a type of pansori song created by Shin Jae-hyo, who will be played by Ryu Seung-ryong. Suzy will take on the role of his favored student, who trains under him during a time when the art of pansori was undergoing formalization and organization. We know Suzy can sing fine in contemporary forms, but pansori’s quite a different ball game and she has reportedly been studying it for the past several months.
I love everything Ryu Seung-ryong does and have no doubt he’ll be reliably strong in this; it’s Suzy who is the bigger question mark. I have a big soft spot for her since she has an endearing, approachable quality in her roles, but let’s be honest—she’s best in roles that rely more on her charm and less on her technical ability. Though to be fair, she was probably best in Introduction to Architecture, a role that took her from idol singer to mainstream star. Maybe she’ll be better in movies?
Ryu Seung-ryong is currently busy filming another movie, The Guest, and plans to begin work on Dorihwaga as soon as he’s wrapped that project. Directing is Lee Jong-pil, who previously directed the comedy movie Born To Sing. It plans to begin filming in the coming months for a 2015 release.
Via Mk.co.kr
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1 redfox
June 16, 2014 at 8:18 AM
ugh she has such a blank face.
I am really reluctant to give her any chance at all, but it is not up to me...
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2 crazedlu
June 16, 2014 at 8:19 AM
It's crazy how much I don't care about her as an entertainer. She's so average at everything. Acting, mediocre. Singing, mediocre and less, considering she doesn't have great range, so I'm surprised she got cast here to sing and to sing classically. Shrugs.
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JC
June 16, 2014 at 8:30 AM
It's hard to argue the acting, but I think Suzy actually does okay as a singer! She sort of gets a bad rep because she is an idol, and not even the main vocalist of Miss A. But when she has had the chance to sing, she's usually sounded good. Her voice quality is nice, although I don't know how well it will translate to pansori, as you said.
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Gg
June 16, 2014 at 8:36 AM
I wish Suzy would quit acting, for her own sake and everyone else's. Sageuk is really the litmus test to distinguish good actors from the bad ones, and even Jeon Ji Hyun knows to stay away from sageuks for her own good. I cannot fathom why Suzy keeps going for sageuks when it will only further expose her weaknesses.
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pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deck🍉
June 16, 2014 at 9:06 AM
I don`t think the likes of Ha Jung-woo, Kim Min-hee, Bae Doona, Gong Hyo-jin or even a pre-Arang Shin Mina are any less excellent as actors even when they weren`t doing sageuk. Modern dramas can be just as complex and demanding as sageuks depending on the role, but an actor who sucks in modern mode is unlikely to shine in a sageuk.
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iced
June 17, 2014 at 5:14 AM
Not so much that saguek is the litmus test but Suzy was really really bad in Gu Family Book, and this is coming from a person who can tolerate her acting in all her dramas that are set in modern day. Her 'acting' in GFB was so bad that it gave me shivers, and not in a good way either.
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sujeong
June 17, 2014 at 6:52 AM
Funnily enough I would be able to find quite a few people who would argue that Suzy's modern dramas are her weakest. Again not saying that saguek is the make or break, mostly due to the fact that they (her modern dramas) were her earliest works and even she had to admit that she was pretty green on screen (she basically admitted she knew nothing about acting and was more or less forced into the first role).
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Gg
June 17, 2014 at 8:34 AM
What I meant was, it's easier to get by with bad acting in modern dramas as compared to sageuk. Because at least the actors can speak naturally in their modern accents, whereas in sageuk, the mere recitation of lines will make viewers cringe if they are unable to even speak naturally in the sageuk way. If the actors are awkward with the sageuk way of speaking, I assume it's going to affect their acting as well. Think of it as speaking and acting in a language you might not be so comfortable in.
For this reason some actors and actresses have been careful to stay away from sageuk, and to play to the best of their abilities by picking suitable modern day dramas. Nothing wrong with that of course. But given Suzy's lackluster performance in both genres, especially in sageuk, I'm just surprised she wants to do it again given the higher challenge. Hopefully she finds some way to improve her acting if she's really intent on pursuing this path. Or you know, she could just stick to being an idol.
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klir
June 16, 2014 at 12:15 PM
She is far from being mediocre actress, she is plain bad.
Mediocre in my mind is actress that has a potential but is always playing the same type of roles( even if she is good at it). ParkShin Hye,Yoona,Go Ara are mediocre.
Suzy is a bad actress without any sings of improvement.
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windsun33
June 16, 2014 at 3:24 PM
I have only watched parts of what she has been in, and I was not impressed with her acting. But considering that I dropped both unfinished, not sure if it was her acting or that the shows just sucked in general.
But either way, this does not really sound all that interesting.
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alexis
June 16, 2014 at 4:26 PM
I agree with your assessment of all of them. Generally speaking, I'm not very excited about the group of actresses in their 20s. They're pretty and decent at acting (besides Suzy), but (in my opinion) they don't match the visual stunningness or star charisma that actresses like Song Hye Kyo, Ha Ji Won, Jun Ji Hyun, Choi Ji Woo, Yoon Eun Hye etc had in their 20s. These actresses all had extremely popular, defining projects in their 20s that spread the Hallyu wave around the world (i.e., Full House, Damo, My Sassy Girl, Winter Sonata, Coffee Prince, etc). None of the projects that the current group of actresses in their 20s have done have grabbed me in the same way.
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dramaboy
June 16, 2014 at 6:55 PM
completely disagree with regard to go ara. she was amazing in 응답하라 1994 and doing a great job in her current role. i think that actresses like Song Hye Kyo, Ha Ji Won, Jun Ji Hyun, Choi Ji Woo, Yoon Eun Hye are somewhat overrated outside their one big hit.
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alexis
June 17, 2014 at 5:05 AM
Huh? "One big hit" is just plain wrong. None of the actresses I mentioned only had one hit. SHK had three huge dramas in her twenties. (Autumn in My Heart, All In, Full House). Ha Ji Won had a bunch as well in her twenties (Damo, What Happened in Bali, Hwang Jini, Duelist, 100 Days). Choi Ji Woo had Beautiful Days, Winter Sonata, Stairway to Heaven. etc. I'm not sure how Go Ara or any of the current 20s actresses can match that kind of record or influence.
dramaboy
June 17, 2014 at 7:36 AM
perhaps i was being a little too harsh, but you cant compare the dramas of old to dramas today by simply ratings or perceived hits and ignore the context. Its so much harder to get even a 20% rated drama or for a show to get as much attention just because tv has lost its dominance as a media distribution channel. ultimately i think we should be judging actresses based how well they performed in the roles that were given/chose and i dont think the actresses of old were that much better at the same point in their careers. i think some of their perceived charisma is hindsight bias on the viewers part.
alexis
June 17, 2014 at 8:21 AM
You're speaking as if these are entirely different eras or something. The early to mid 2000s were not that long ago, and TV is still the primary medium by which Koreans watch shows. Plenty of more recent dramas were able to pull in huge ratings (i.e., Moon that Embraces the Sun, My Daughter Seo Young, Secret Garden, Baker King, just to name a few).
Your opinion about how someone "performs the role" is just that, your opinion, just like I can have an opinion about how someone performs a role. But objectively speaking, in terms of audience draw, ratings, international star power, etc., Go Ara and other 20s actresses simply are not there (yet).
dramaboy
June 17, 2014 at 6:44 PM
my point is that just because a drama is a hit doesnt mean that the acting or the actresses are good...ex. 해품달...we're going to get nowhere in our argument, but i dont think the current age of actresses are that much worse than the past generation
pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deck🍉
June 16, 2014 at 7:28 PM
The problem is not that most of the actresses currently in their early 20s aren`t good - the likes of Kim Ji-won, Lee Yubi, Kim So-eun, Kang Sora have more than enough screen presence and talent to be leading ladies in their own right.
The problem is that by and large, they just don`t get cast in leads because k-ent will always go for an idol leading lady over an actress no matter the level of non-talent, and occasionally when it does go for a 20something actress, makes sure to go for the worst ones possible. Hell I`d even take an idol who can act over this.
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bd5
June 16, 2014 at 3:39 PM
Actually, I was quite surprise to see/hear that Suzy has a pretty decent voice.
Yeah, maybe not one of the best voices in K-pop (much K-indie), but certainly better than the typical pop singer (including in the US).
As for her acting, yes - other than "Intro. to Architecture" - nothing to write home about, but at the same time, she (like YEH) is the type of actress who does well with a well written role and a good director (as she did in ItA).
Also, many had written off Kim Tae-hee, Lee Yeon-hee, Go Ara, etc. as actresses and they all have given good performances in the right projects.
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Gina
June 17, 2014 at 1:22 AM
Let`s please not insult YEH by saying her standard is like suzy. at least YEH could act even when she was making her debut, YEH in goong (age 21) is far better than anything suzy has shown so far at almost 20.
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bd5
June 17, 2014 at 10:56 AM
Wouldn't say that YEH could actually act in "Goong" with all the overacting (esp. of the cute mannerisms which I place blame on the director).
YEH's 1st acting gig was actually in the film "The Legend of Seven Cutter" (she did a cameo before that) and she gave a better performance in that - while raw, she had a natural charm unlike in "Goong" where she had to act all fake-cute.
And YEH did get criticized for her acting in "Goong."
And let's not go overboard and say that YEH's acting in "Goong" is better than anything Suzy has done.
Yes - overall, YEH is the better actress, but neither are really any good when they don't have the right script and director.
While Suzy's acting in say, big was cringe-worthy, so was YEH's acting in "Lie to Me", albeit Suzy's was more so.
On the other hand, Suzy's acting in ItA was better than any of YEH's performances other than "Coffee Prince."
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hah
June 17, 2014 at 11:29 AM
preach the gospel.
her acting and singing are below average.
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3 mel
June 16, 2014 at 8:21 AM
She is very endearing so it's hard to hate, but it's amazing the things she gets cast in considering her total lack of acting talent. Despite her character being likable in GFB, she totally didn't pull of the whole sageuk aspect in the drama either. That and she's an okay idol singer, but pansori....?
Though expectations are low so as long as she's not terrible she'll get more praise than she deserves tbh.
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pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deck🍉
June 16, 2014 at 8:56 AM
that is true. Lowered standards - extremely lowered standards - are essential to be able to process any performance of hers as being good. She at least doesn`t forget her lines like the girl in Basketball lol。
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windsun33
June 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM
I don't dislike her - from what I have read about her she is actually a pretty nice person and does a lot of charity work. But everyone is not good at everything - I would not allow my cute puppy to drive me to the store.
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4 JC
June 16, 2014 at 8:24 AM
Wow, this is indeed a bizarre pairing.
I do love Ryu Seung-ryong though. And Suzy, while not technically the best actor, is generally pretty likeable in her roles. I think she actually does have a good voice, and she proved her musical ability in the numbers from Dream High. Hopefully she'll do well here!
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Milky
June 16, 2014 at 12:30 PM
but it was not her singing in DH... they used a voice over for her operatic singing. except for the snippets of the pop songs, but even then IU did most of the singing in dream high.
I guess they can always use a voice over too. but her singing is ok.
she's likeable tho so as long as she doesn't try to prove herself and let RSR lead, they'll be fine.
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Jackeline
June 16, 2014 at 1:22 PM
She had a solo (Only Hope) and duet (the one with KSH) in DH though, and they showcased her voice really well. I think she's just underused in her band, in terms of her voice, because she already stands out so much in terms of everything else. While not a power vocal, she can definitely sing.
But like everyone else says, not sure how she'll do with pansori. I guess we'll just have to see.
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5 annas
June 16, 2014 at 8:25 AM
I love Suzy because of her awesome personality but her acting is really weak.
Like JB, I too have this feeling that maybe she is better in a movie instead of drama. Considering the style of filming a drama and movie is totally different, u need to rush filming a drama...
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windsun33
June 16, 2014 at 3:29 PM
That is kind of where I am at. I like her, but her acting abilities have not stunned me so far.
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6 MIKAN
June 16, 2014 at 8:28 AM
I read about pansori and the singer has to undergo training to make different sounds and feelings. In the end, the singer has to strain her vocal chords in getting the exact pansori performance. I'm worried for Suzy's vocal chrords. It might be ruined for good. Still this is an interesting story based on the true historical figure. I really like Suzy and Ryu Seung ryong so I'm sold!
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PPasun
June 16, 2014 at 3:35 PM
I don't think Suzy will be doing the real singing. Pansori is not an art you can master in a few months in preparation of a movie.
Why didn't they get what's her face, the famous Pansori girl? She would have been perfect for the role.
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7 Rou
June 16, 2014 at 8:31 AM
Oh come on Producers! How can you pair a great actor like Ryu Seung Ryong with a bad actress like Suzy? You've got to be kidding me! *SMH*
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kanz
June 16, 2014 at 9:55 AM
Maybe, just maybe, the producer thinks Ryu Seung Ryong will help Suzy's acting. I don't get the casting actually, why waste RSR talent to be paired with blankface Suxy. I endure GFB just because LSG and she seems likable. But no, please, no again to see her in sageuk for everyone's sake.
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8 pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deck🍉
June 16, 2014 at 8:45 AM
I get that she`s popular, but casting her in a sageuk again, seriously? We all saw what she was like in the last one, and that`s reportedly AFTER training in the sageuk speech style and martial arts for months.
I get that she is popular, but frankly, most kinds of acting are beyond her ability and I don`t buy that she has a god-given right to an acting career when several actresses and idols in her age and experience range can act rings around her without even trying, and have the charm too (see; Jung Eun-ji). Her agency would be better off trying to make her a solo idol instead - she has a decent enough singing voice for an idol and that`ll be less torturous than watching her muck up yet another lead role she doesn`t have the chops to carry.
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soprection
June 16, 2014 at 11:05 AM
She doesn't have enough stage presence to do well as a solo act. Most solo K-pop entertainers are really good dancers who have lots of charisma which makes up for their usually average or mediocre singing ability. The best thing Suzy has going for her as a performer is her looks and her voice. When Miss A performs, Suzy just blends into the background. You can actually forget she's there because she doesn't stand out AT ALL. I'm not trying to hate on her here, although admittedly I disliked her for a long time but she just doesn't have the charisma or the stage presence to be successful as a solo performer, although she DOES have the popularity and the endearing personality and girl-next-door image.
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lemondoodle
June 16, 2014 at 3:04 PM
She's the worst one in Miss A in dancing and I'm not sure about singing, but ia... she doesn't stand out at all during performances. Miss A also is pretty low tier as well. Suzy is a lot more popular outside and successful outside of the group than she is in it.
She's actually best at being a CF model.
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MIKAN
June 16, 2014 at 7:42 PM
I don't think she's worst in miss A. I'm a fan of them myself and I found her voice more appealing. She's also has more charms. This is just the difference of opinion I guess.
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hah
June 17, 2014 at 11:36 AM
if you want to go by vocal techniques, miss a as a group is a mess. only decent vocalist would be fei followed by min. suzy on the lower end
her charms, i guess are her being a bubble and not too bright. i guess that's what makes her endearing
soprection
June 17, 2014 at 5:43 AM
I would say that she's probably their second best singer. Her voice has an interesting quality - it's a little bit deeper and richer than the typical girl group singer (and I LOVE girl groups so I'm not hating, just pointing it out). She's not a great dancer, especially compared to her members (two are really good dancers and the other is not bad).
That being said, Suzy is by far the most popular, well known, successful member of the group and probably in her company at the moment. I think last year she made more money individually than all of the groups did (saw an article that said something like that anyway) which is unsurprising given that CFs are where the money's really at. Music doesn't pay well and the company gets most of the profits from concerts so it's really the CFs that allow the artists to build up some cash.
Hm, I don't know what to say about Miss A. Their debut song was SUPER popular but then they kind of fell by the wayside? That's one of the bad things about debuting with a popular song - it's hard to live up to that. I think they're just not promoted very well, tbh, but it's my belief that JYP (the company) is horrid at juggling more than one group at a time. And they have issues with even one at times. In addition to that, they don't do much variety as a group which is always a bit detrimental. It makes it hard for people to get a sense of the group dynamic.
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9 pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deck🍉
June 16, 2014 at 8:50 AM
oh and before her fans jump at me about how hard she works, do you think actresses and actors whose performances are generally acknowledged as good, don`t work as hard if not harder than her？and for a lot less recognition, too.
It`s idols like her, Taecyeon and Yunho who make both netizens and DB at large groan when we hear of their castings - and this is after we`ve given them multiple chances and still seen that they suck.
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Abbie
June 16, 2014 at 9:04 AM
It could be argued that, as an idol, she has a greater work load than regular actors and actresses. But then, there are other idols who have as big a work load (if not bigger) than her and can act rings around her, so I guess it does come down to talent.
I don't have any problems with Suzy. I'm not a fan of Miss A, but I do find Suzy to be endearing and really sweet. I've seen her enough times on variety shows to think well of her. But acting-wise, I think she should either quit or take some serious lessons to improve if she is adamant about pursuing it as a career choice. I think she could be good if she allowed herself to actually FEEL what her characters are feeling instead of just mimicking it, which is what it seems like she does.
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pogo
June 16, 2014 at 9:14 AM
By actress, I mean anyone who acts, idol actress or no. I mean, IU is every bit as popular as Suzy, is barely a year older - they debuted together, and she is by far the better actress of the two and has as heavy a work load. Or Jung Eun-ji and Krystal - again, idols and in their late teens/just about 20 and they also turned in well-received performances and have generally not been actively terrible onscreen.
Suzy`s age and inexperience levels are starting to wear thin as excuses considering what several of her peers, both idols and actresses, have been able to do onscreen - her acting jobs just seem like auditions for her next round of CFs, they`re like exercises in modelling.
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liz
June 16, 2014 at 8:16 PM
Krystal just did a role - one that wasn't hard since she played a spoiled brat - what she already looks like in real life - eunji played an tomboy - that she is in real life and say they are by far better than Suzy? lol
You know, some Top stars of today were bad when they were young too, some just saw the light after years working and finally getting the right pd/co-worker or lesson from someone.
You guys talk as if Suzy did lots of dramas... but she didn't.
She did Dream High - first role and lead, which she didn't want to but was forced by her company, then she did a movie which she was decent enough - then Big, where her character was really weird and badly written, and last Family gu book, sageuk where the best actors can also fail.
If you count, 2 leading roles in kdramas, 1 second role in kdrama, 1 main role (with 4 actors leading) in a movie.
So, I don't think she acted in enough dramas to call her out yet. I mean Kim Tae Hee just seemed to improve in My pricess, LYH in Miss Korea saw the light, Goara shined in A1994, Han Gain continues to be bad and was just decent in the same movie Suzy was.
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gina
June 17, 2014 at 1:36 AM
.......and again, Suzy`s fans will do anything to put down the other idol actresses who show that idol status, young age and lack of experience don`t mean you have to suck as badly as her.
eunji had to carry an entire show and play a character between the ages of 18 and play a character between the ages of 18-31, play a character between the ages of 18-31, and she was only 18 herslf. Krystal showed herself to have good comic timing and to get into a character which is more than Suzy has ever been caoable of doing.
and as for the sageuk part, Lee Yoo bi is even more of a rookie than Suzy in gu Family book (never had a lead role, only gu Family book (never had a lead role, only been in two dramas before that) and she still gave a great performance, sageuk speech that) and she still gave a great performance, sageuk speech and all. Suzy is either genuinely unaware of her own limitations or doesn`t care enouugh to put in the effort to improve.
Jin Ra
September 1, 2014 at 1:43 AM
I agree, why not give her a chance? We'll never know right? Anyways Han Ga in for me is weak in every drama that I have watched but she's still given a chance. I mean come on people, she's doing her best in everything that she does and you can see that it's because of her inpiration (her family). We all know she's the breadwinner. She's always determined so why not gve her a chance to prove herself?
windsun33
June 16, 2014 at 3:35 PM
But why do the even keep sticking idols in these shows at all? Almost every day I see a lot of 2nd through 5th leads in dramas that I think should be given more of a chance at real roles.
Something that just came to mind is that Japanese dramas have almost totally (with a very few exceptions) stayed away from casting idols in shows unless the show was actually about them or what they do.
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omona
June 16, 2014 at 9:10 PM
hum what? jdramas are full of ex idols that can't act at all. Some popular boy and girl idols there are so bad so bad that they make korean idols good.
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glowry
June 16, 2014 at 10:09 AM
and thank god we got Lee Joon representing idols who can really act! but if i'm not mistaken he's start as an actor so maybe that's a lil bit different... i really hate how they always take idols while there's bunch of talented actress, even young actress that can really ACT, and sing.. Ryu Sung Ryong definitely will crash Suzy in here... sighh.. still hope she's improved though..
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10 Syl
June 16, 2014 at 9:52 AM
I'm so tired of seeing untalented idols getting cast !!! When I see the carreers of some young talented actresses, i'm so mad !
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Hiro
June 16, 2014 at 11:17 AM
You're Right My Friend
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omona
June 16, 2014 at 8:18 PM
because actress with lacking acting skills doesn't exist right? like the lead from doctor stranger?
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Syl
June 19, 2014 at 2:34 PM
Well I spoke about the young TALENTED actresses, how about you start improving your reading skills ?
I'm just disappointed to see many idols everywhere when i know some actresses will fit the part better in SOME cases.
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11 Caffeine_Ninja
June 16, 2014 at 10:01 AM
How about we actually wait to see the film before we criticise the performances? Oops my bad, I forgot that DB readers never miss a chance to hate on Suzy (even in articles that have nothing to do with her). I will support the film and hope she does her best and I am sure she will work hard.
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Kiara
June 16, 2014 at 10:25 AM
How about just defending your idol instead of assuming/generalizing DB readers as Suzy haters.
Most of the comments are about her lack of acting skills and not about her as a person.
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katethesonetimesgreat
June 16, 2014 at 12:47 PM
Comments like "how about just defending your idol" comes across as dismissive and rude. It implies they must be a fanboy because they dared to defend Suzy. Caffeine Ninja was simply pointing out what even a blind man could see- DB readers are notoriously harsher and more critical towards female actresses (particularly Suzy) than their male counterparts. And as a woman that's disappointing to see.
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Kiara
June 16, 2014 at 1:07 PM
This is not a fan club site for anyone's idol. People have different opinions here. Don't like it then this is not the place for you.
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Farrah
June 16, 2014 at 1:31 PM
And if you can't take other people's opinions without being bratty and rude maybe this isn't the place for you either.
Kiara
June 16, 2014 at 3:37 PM
Stating my opinion is being rude? Generalizing DB readers as Suzy haters is perfectly fine with you?
Piqa
June 17, 2014 at 1:39 AM
@Kiara
Case is, some just can't take your opinion when it is raw. Either ignore them, or just put euphemism in your words.
Gina
June 17, 2014 at 1:20 AM
DB readers are notoriously harsher and more critical towards female actresses (particularly Suzy)
oh ya really, i must have been imagining all those posts where DB commenters harshly criticise Taecyeon and yunho (who are not women) every time they get cast in acting projects.
Stop pretending ppl crtitcise suzy just because she`s a girl, they criticise her because she sucks and keeps sucking especially compared to actresses and even acting idols in her own age group.
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pogo - now sailing HMS Queen of Tears with Corn Salad on deck🍉
June 17, 2014 at 8:40 AM
DB readers are notoriously harsher and more critical towards female actresses (particularly Suzy) than their male counterparts.
Funnily enough, it`s Suzy fans and defenders who are often quickest to tear down and dismiss the achievements of other female idols in her age group and experience level, when DB commenters point those girls out as being talented/better at acting than Suzy.
See the comment about Eunji and Krystal if you don`t believe me, and maybe next time a little less hypocrisy would be in order.
(not speaking to you specifically, just to Suzy fans who start the `but Krystal only played her real life persona anyway!!!` comments.)
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bd5
June 16, 2014 at 3:43 PM
Why not a middling approach?
As in "Intro to Architecture", Suzy was pretty good with the right script and under the guidance of a director who knows how to draw out a performance; so while her other performances have been lacking, maybe this will be on the mark as ItA.
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windsun33
June 16, 2014 at 3:37 PM
"Working hard" is meaningless. A lot of people work hard, working smart is usually a better idea.
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Gabby
June 16, 2014 at 4:04 PM
I've taken that wait-and-see approach for her past few roles. I'm done giving her the benefit of the doubt and being cautiously optimistic or neutral, and that's a totally reasonable position to take.
You're acting like people are "hating" on her just because she's an idol or being hasty in their dismissal, as if they don't have a ton of prior evidence (from the sageuk genre itself no less) of her lack of talent from which to draw informed predictions about how lacking she's probably going to be here (and btw, most people here are qualifying their skepticism with how much they like her as a person/idol persona, so it's hardly a hate parade). Every time there's casting news there's going to be people who are excited and disappointed by who's cast on a site like this; when there's an actress who's had a decidedly negative track record, there's going to be pessimism - unless you're just mad and reacting because she's your bias, I don't get why that's a problem for you.
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12 Kiara
June 16, 2014 at 10:10 AM
Suzy and pansori? Heaven help us.
She is so darn likeable as a person but acting is just not her thing yet. Maybe it'll take 10yrs for her to improve like Lee Yon-hee and Kim Tae-Hee.
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13 Dam
June 16, 2014 at 10:30 AM
I think suzy will do fine, im interested in the movie.
"Under him"
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14 soprection
June 16, 2014 at 10:50 AM
I have to say - I thought Suzy was a TERRIBLE actress (she's a large part of why I dropped Dream High) but she really wasn't so bad in Intro to Architecture. Prior to that, I always thought she was so bland (good enough voice but no stage presence), although she's very pretty and seems nice (but most idols have that going for them). Idk - maybe this will be a good growing experience for her - we'll see.
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dearly
June 16, 2014 at 9:38 PM
Her role in Architecture isn't that complex. It was fairly a simple role. :/
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soprection
June 17, 2014 at 5:53 AM
I didn't say it was complex, just that she did a good job with it. Compared to how tremendously awful she was in Dream High (imo), I was shocked that she seemed believable at all in that role. I actually held off on watching Intro to Architecture for a long time just because I knew she was in the movie and I was dreading having to watch her act so when I saw the movie and she wasn't terrible, I was impressed by that.
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dearly
June 17, 2014 at 2:44 PM
She did a good job b/c it wasn't a complex role. Anyone can pull off that role. It's just a college student role who experiences first love.
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bd5
June 17, 2014 at 9:04 PM
You'd be surprised how many so-called actors/actresses would botch that.
lemondoodle
June 17, 2014 at 11:32 PM
"She wasn't terrible. I was impressed by that"
lol
That's why she keeps getting roles tbh. She's nice, pretty and popular and if she does the minimum and isn't offensive people are impressed.
People should stop being so easily impressed honestly.
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15 newmoon
June 16, 2014 at 11:19 AM
ohh the gay boss from personal taste, i love that man xdddddd
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16 funlugha
June 16, 2014 at 11:29 AM
If Kim Hyung Joong could pull off a miracle in his last drama I'm gonna cross all fingers and toes that she does the same (well she's cast already so might as well pray for a near decent performance!)
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17 Kim Yoonmi
June 16, 2014 at 12:04 PM
Acting is weak, but Korea has a habit of raising its actors unlike the US. Some come to it naturally, but others have to learn it. I'd give her a chance to learn it. Artists improve with experience and being around better actors.
There are actors that I disliked entirely, but they gradually got better and I went, "wha?" Sung Yuri was worse than Suzy when she started. A Thousand Years of (Hate) and (Jerk) Prince's First Love are a clear demonstration of how much she was BAD. I mean the writers *wrote in* a lip disease into Prince's First Love to get her to *stop biting her lip* I'm serious. It was in the 2-3% range for the time it aired (A Thousand Years of Love was no better). But by Hong Gil Dong, her acting improved and now no one bad mouths her, showing that Korea really does raise its actors.
If you want to watch it or not, up to you. But I swear, Sung Yuri's acting was worse than Suzy's. I like watching people improve and evolve in their art. Makes it seem less unattainable.
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alua
June 16, 2014 at 2:18 PM
"I’d give her a chance to learn it."
I would give her a chance too (at least for some time), but it doesn't need lead roles to do this learning.
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Gabby
June 16, 2014 at 4:20 PM
"I like watching people improve and evolve in their art. Makes it seem less unattainable."
I like seeing that too when you can already tell they have a certain baseline of talent and promise to work with, which signals their talent is worth cultivating more than your average Tom, Dick, or Jane. It's not encouraging to think that ANYONE can do acting, it's DISCOURAGING to think that you may have all the talent in the world for bringing characters to life and making audiences invested in incredible stories but never get that break because there's a Suzy blocking your way, who's super pretty and charming in person...but that's it; and to see the successful conveyance of those stories inhibited BECAUSE they're populated my mediocre actors or mediocre writers or mediocre directors who are just there to...prove that their work is attainable?
I want to see artists flourish and develop who have a particular aptitude for their art. I don't think that's too much to ask.
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Gabby
June 16, 2014 at 4:24 PM
*by, not my
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MIKAN
June 16, 2014 at 8:02 PM
Maybe there are people who find Suzy promising like the director in Christmas in August so they will cultivate her to become better. You say she's charming and pretty, not all are gifted to attract people's attention that fast. If they can make Suzy a better actress before the 30s leading ladies ageing get married and have kids then they can make another superstar in her esp. she's just 19.
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Eren
June 18, 2014 at 7:58 AM
"it’s DISCOURAGING to think that you may have all the talent in the world for bringing characters to life and making audiences invested in incredible stories but never get that break because there’s a Suzy blocking your way"
THAT'S IT.
She doesn't need the lead roles to learn. Her job is singing and dancing like she is told to on stage, not acting.
Let the real actresses do their job, for God's sake... There are so many talented and also young (which seems to be the reason why some still wait for her miraculous acting debut) actresses who still wait for more attention.
Such a shame.
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bd5
June 17, 2014 at 9:05 PM
Sung Yuri's acting in HGD may have improved over her earlier work, but it was in no way anywhere close to being good.
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18 solace
June 16, 2014 at 12:12 PM
No. My precious pansori.
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19 klir
June 16, 2014 at 12:23 PM
I`ll give her a chance like i always give her a chance but she`ll end up disappointing me once again.
She is a sweet girl but and awful actress, she should stick to singing.
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20 alua
June 16, 2014 at 2:12 PM
She won't do better in movies.
Movies are a much harder ballgame.
I think this a very odd pairing, given he's almost exclusively a movie actor with some pretty solid performances to his name and she, as sweet and nice as she might be, an idol that can't act yet gets lead roles.
Who (company/producers) is behind this? The director is a relative (directing) newbie, which doesn't increase my confidence either.
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21 Wag_a_Muffin
June 16, 2014 at 3:27 PM
Wow. I liked her on Gu Book and I enjoy watching her on variety. I'm going to give her a chance. (Plus, I believe anyone acting with Ryu Seung-ryong is going to be better than usual.)
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bd5
June 16, 2014 at 3:47 PM
The thing is tho - that Suzy isn't naturally inclined to variety as other say, Sunhwa (Secret) - since she's naturally a bit on the quiet side.
But Suzy has gotten better at opening up and she does have a pretty quirky personality and interests, and probably the best thing about her is that she just acts naturally (not vain or concerned about how she looks) and is always laughing hard when something funny happens.
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22 priest
June 16, 2014 at 3:32 PM
She'll be fine. I do think she's seriuosly taking the role since her agency allowed her to practice the craft for several months. I aint hatin Suzy coz I've seen enough more awful than her and they're veterans of 10+ years already. Since Ryu Seong Ryong is an acting teacher himself then I'm sure he can bring out her potential than any normal actors she had worked with. I believe that's how actors grow and mature. Acting is a skill that can be taught and learn through hardwork and experience unlike singing.
The point I'm cringy here is the romance. God forbid skinship please.
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alua
June 16, 2014 at 4:24 PM
Romance? Is there supposed to be a romance storyline between them?
Don't think because there are worse people out there that have been longer in the business that that's a reason to cast any actor (idol or not) when there are plenty people better than her. Demonstrated talent (whether through previous performances or auditions) should be the most important (though not the only) factor in casting leads IMO. You can learn in smaller roles, without carrying a whole drama or film on your shoulders.
I can't say I agree with your comment that acting can just be learned, but singing not. I think both have a learning/hard work side and innate talent one.
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theflibbet
June 16, 2014 at 5:26 PM
yeah they're romantic leads...with a 24 year actual age difference
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priest
June 16, 2014 at 7:31 PM
The thing is this movie is not even big budgeted considering the director is a newbie and I have a feeling that he will also be the screen writer. She will get lead roles because whether you admit it or not she is a popular actress. She got DH, Architecture 101 and GFB under her portfolio which were hits in Korea. Unless people stop caring about her, she will continue getting offers because there is actual success for those investor can look upon. She also have fans from her dramas. It's not like her group is so popular to bring in the fans.
I would feel sorry for those unappreciated actors but unless you are God that can make the world choose who they love and make it a fair place to live in then there's nothing you cannot do about it but keep preaching your opinion to others.
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23 cutiemikan
June 16, 2014 at 3:44 PM
I like her and she picks projects that I like except gfb since I don't like LSG. I love Dream high because of her with KSH's character that's why I ship them hard and she's such a bitch in BIG.
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24 theflibbet
June 16, 2014 at 5:22 PM
forget her acting, is anyone else creeped out by the age difference? he could be her father.
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bd5
June 17, 2014 at 9:07 PM
This is set pre-modern times where such relationships are commonplace and still are today in many undeveloped parts of the world.
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25 ana
June 16, 2014 at 7:25 PM
maybe this is finally the role where she can prove her acting abilities? it seems like a pretty hard role to play, surely the casting director has some faith in her. but yeah i agree. maybe she's just better with movies.
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26 ana
June 16, 2014 at 7:27 PM
why are some people here so creep out by the age difference between two legal adults, but not so much when it comes to noona romance with a still in high school student?
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Mia
June 16, 2014 at 8:40 PM
Well, first of all, the noona romance with a high school student (I assume you're talking about I Can Hear Your Voice) had a smaller IN-story age gap between the characters; also, in real life the actors are only nine years apart (as opposed to Ryu Seung Ryong and Suzy's 24 year age gap); and the most important difference, in my view, is that the younger actor is at least already in his twenties (not being underage himself). Suzy is technically not underage anymore, but JUST barely - she's still in her teens (19), her frontal lobes are still developing, she's still kinda a kid. It's not out-and-out disgusting (like the potential situation we have with Kim Sae-ron's upcoming show), but it does make some of us a little bit squeamish, especially considering she's going to be the concubine of another much older man (the father of the king in the story) as well, so she's basically going to be pursued or sexually desired by two men old enough to be her father.
If you're talking about Yeo Jin-goo's Potato Star sitcom, then yeah, that was a little more unsettling, but it is also a much smaller age difference between the leads (who play characters around the same age).
I'm just disappointed Suzy's never really gotten to have a same-age love interest. Even Kim Soo-hyun was six years older than her, which was almost like a gender reversal of the Potato Star situation.
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27 omona
June 16, 2014 at 8:30 PM
Model turned actor, stiff, can't act that well, usually gets a cold role as their debut because they don't need to act but just look handsome and cool, or gets a role he just needs to act cute enough, gets secondary character in a drama later, people here cheer even though he doesn't have acting skills but who cares he is eye candy and handsome, and a guy, by next drama he is already a leading man but nobody complains about this, everyone is happy because their eye candy who acts badly but looks handsome and cute is in it. Fans here say ''yay he deserved his main role"
Now, if the same case happens, but this is a girl and not a guy...
''why they keep casting her! her acting skills are so bad, why give her such important role, could they not give it to a talented actress???"
Lmaaao, but when it is the talentess but handsome rookie model turned actor, nobody complains or cares.
Why casting handsome with no acting skills model turned actor is ok and looked over ?
Reminds of the model turned actor from ''you who came from the stars'' that is acting in You are surrounded, the guy acting sucks, he is stiff and keeps playing characters like this because his acting lacks, but nobody complains.
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Mia
June 16, 2014 at 8:51 PM
I agree that Ahn Jae-hyun hasn't gotten the flack he deserves, or maybe he has but I just haven't heard much of it. He's just meh. I'd argue that the differential treatment has a bit more to do with him being a model-turned-actor than the gender component (at least with K-netizens, who seem to give models more leeway than idols...perhaps that bias is attributable to the recent successes of Kim Woo-bin, Lee Jong-suk, and, to an extent, Sung Joon..and models most always start in small supporting roles and small projects, whereas it's not unheard of for idols to get cast in lead or second lead roles right off the bat).
But double standards for gender do also play a role. IMO, neither Ahn Jae-hyun or Suzy should be getting the roles they're getting, but unlike AJH, Suzy is getting lead roles, where poor acting is more likely to affect the overall quality of the film or television series.
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Gina
June 17, 2014 at 1:14 AM
...except that the models, like cindy says, start out in small supporting roles. Kim Woo bin has never even been lead in any drama after three years of acting experience. not like Suzy and some other idols who keep grabbing lead roles and major roles time and again when they don`t do well at acting.
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omona
June 17, 2014 at 9:20 AM
Hum what? KWB might not be the main lead but he was one of leads and most screen time for School 2013 - even the main girl got pushed aside, in Friends movie he is also one of the main cast, and in heirs again he was a main too getting most of scenes. It wasn't small parts lol stop being biased.
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28 HANI
June 16, 2014 at 8:41 PM
I'll watch it because RSR in it. Meh on Suzy. However, I hope that Suzy will earn as much as she can while acting along RSR. He is an experienced actor & can shows her a few things or 100.
And u guys, pls remember that Han Gain, Kim Tae Hee, Lee Yeon Hee etc acted longer than her and KTH only bearable in My Princess (& went downhill again in that sageuk i forgot its title), HGI is worse that Suzy in Architecture 101 tbh ( & lets not forget her in our fave Moon drama), LYH finally become actress in Miss Korea.
I say, since they are given countless chances and only recently improved, why not treat Suzy the same? After all, she only did 1 movie & 3 dramas~
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29 Cindy
June 16, 2014 at 9:06 PM
Hum... some amazing actors, were once bad when they started.
Did anyone watch Ha Ji Won early movies? HJW overacted so much and made me cringe - this isn't just my opinion, Ha Ji Won herself never watched her first movie because she is so embarrassed because of her acting lol
Not every actor wills shine and steal a role in their first role/debut.
I usually see a lot of praise for Won Bin (mother, ahjusshi, autumn in my heart) for example, but guy is decent at best. I never got the praise he gets, his acting was so bad in Autumn my heart, so was SSH and SHG there...
Or lets talk about Song Hye-kyo, she improved a lot but lacks screen presence, imo. Yes she is so beautiful, but just recently her acting got me, she was bad in Autumn my heart - moon geun young acting was better than her - she was also not that good in Hotelier or Full house - decent at best.
Look Lee Jin Wook, guy also lacks a lot acting but I need romance and Nine did wonders for him - now everyone says he is a good actor, while everyone talked bad when he did Myung Wol the Spy which was in 2011!
There is other actors that people love to praise here that are overrated and improved a lot since their debuts days (some didn't that much) but aside Han Ga In and Kim Tae Hee, I don't see people calling them out for it.
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lemondoodle
June 17, 2014 at 4:02 AM
Suzy doesn't even like acting from what I've seen. She never wanted to and even cried when they made her do Dream High. All those people seem to want to learn their craft and improve. Can't really say the same for Suzy. Of course, she'll do her job but it's not something she's passionate about and it shows.
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bd5
June 17, 2014 at 11:00 AM
Can't say that I've ever been impressed by Ha Ji-won's acting yet.
Yes, she has gotten better where I don't take any issue with it, but at the same time, there hasn't been a performance from her that has really drawn me in - unlike for actresses such as Kim Tae-hee, Lee Yeon-hee and Go Ara who have all been roundly criticized for their acting.
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cunnhjwfan
June 18, 2014 at 2:54 AM
bd5 why you always drag Ha Ji Won name in your comments? It not just once but almost everytime I read comments on DB, your comments about Ha Ji Won always the same whether you reply to person who praised Ha Ji Won's acting or someone not too fond with her acting. It seem to you Ha Ji Won is really bad actress, her acting is not on par with your beloved Kim Tae Hee...I bet you will never be impressed with her acting because you never open to her. I'm very patient as a person, okay for other people criticise or voicing they opinion about Ha Ji Won..negative or positive I don't mind but with you I had reached my limit...you had enough stated your negative opinions, keep your nice comment for your favourite actress just don't care about Ha Ji Won anymore..enough is enough.
About Suzy, I'm neutral toward her and hope she gain experience working with Ryu Seung Ryong so in future she will become a better actress.
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30 dearly
June 16, 2014 at 9:34 PM
Can someone please hand me a gun so I can shoot myself? J/k. (I wouldn't go that far for Suzy. Lol) But, hearing Suzy pair w/ Ryu Seung Ryong did gave me a WTF look. Good heavens. That girl cannot sing, dance, and act. In fact, I'm baffled that she's popular. There are soooooooo much better singers and actresses than her. For Heaven sake, choose someone else that is on the same level as Ryu Seung Ryong or someone better than Suzy.
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31 liss
June 17, 2014 at 1:28 AM
Just stop acting when you can't even act. Stop ruining other people chances
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32 hah
June 17, 2014 at 12:20 PM
yikes at some of you bringing down multiple actresses/actors in order to defend just ONE poor actress, suzy.
#mess really
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33 kyara
June 17, 2014 at 2:55 PM
1) Suzy said she was forced by her company to do Dream High, that she never wanted to act before. Look at the first episode and the last and how much she improved. It is still far from being good though.
2) Introduction to Architecture. Amazing performance. Why did she have so much praise from critics and PDs from this role if it wasn't great ? why would they bother compliment her ?
People keep saying that her role is not complex and that you can't see her acting in this role. Well, you have your answer. When you say "ah this person acts so well!" it means that you see him act he is not so natural that you feel like it is just a normal person talking => you see an actor and not a person and that's why people working in this field love her so much.
But it was not the most dramatic role ever….
3) she said herself that she prefers movies because you have more time to shoot the scene, get into your character etc…
4) Big : this drama was such a failure. Her role was crazy, she played crazily…doesn't have much complaint here.
5) Gu Family Book : I don't understand korean and i could tell there was something wrong in her speech so…that's not good. But, LSG was not at his best either…she made me cringe and he did too…but their kiss was daebak.
6) Dorihwaga : sageuk + pansori + dramatic story…it will be absolutely amazing or a complete failure. There will be no in between i think. Ryu Seung-Ryong is there so…my expectations are quite high.
Suzy is a really good singer (when she sings songs that suits her voice which is not always but you can check out her live radio performance of her OST for gfb she really can pull it off) but pansori is a whole other story. I want to think that she will sing live (i think it will be so wrong to have another voice over hers) and that they made her try and see if she has any talent for it beforehand…
We can talk about Suzy doing pansori but Ryu Seung-Ryong will be her teacher, can't wait to see him do it !
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34 maria
June 18, 2014 at 6:37 AM
probs so many pple r gunna disagree with me when i say i actually liked her in dream high... she has a sort of low-tone voice that really delivers well and her awkward acting matched well with the awkwardness of her character.
i really liked her in architecture 101 as well,
but BIG and Gu family book.... i wasn't very impressed...
but still... maybe it's because i'm an awkward and blank faced person and i know a lot of pple that are as well... but i like her as an actresse! i don't really get why she gets so much hate whenever she acts...
anyways, really looking forward to this pairing! ryu-seung-ryong is awesome!
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35 lovesuzybae
July 14, 2014 at 3:49 PM
Suzy is Always The best No.1 <3 bae goddess Fighting
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36 ILOVESUZY
July 26, 2014 at 3:49 AM
for me,suzy did well in dream high..i love it when a tear just dropped by her face in between dialogues. her acting fitted her role as go hye mi.. whether she acts good or bad, people adore her that's why she gets main roles. a lot of actors act well but don't have the charisma as suzy..
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