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Discovery of Romance: Episode 9

Questions are answered and emotions come to a head, as our leading man comes face to face with his past behavior for the first time. Tae-ha makes a realization that rocks him to the core on many levels, which could be a real game-changer. And Ha-jin had better figure out whether his interest in Ah-rim is purely brotherly or not, or he could stand to lose everything.

EPISODE 9: “I said ‘I love you’ hundreds of times…”

On their way to the orphanage, Ha-jin asks Ah-rim why she changed her mind about taking him with her today. She says the little boy having the surgery would feel more comfortable if he met the doctor first. He asks if she’s wearing makeup which makes her feel self-conscious, and she wipes it off, saying there’s no point trying to look pretty for him.

Ha-jin and Ah-rim stop at a mall to buy gifts for the kids, where Ha-jin pays for everything against Ah-rim’s protests. He says it’s redistribution of wealth from the rich to the poor, like she always says, and asks her to just take what he gives her.

Tae-ha and Yeo-reum stop at the same mall for lunch, and Tae-ha sees Ha-jin and Ah-rim shopping but manages to keep Yeo-reum from spotting them. He notices her purse which she’s been carrying since they dated, bragging that he got it for her with his first paycheck, but she insists she bought it herself.

Tae-ha remembers their dating days, when he’d been excited to take Yeo-reum to the subway station to find the purse stashed in a locker. Yeo-reum says she doesn’t remember it that way — she remembers the day, but claims it was a necklace that he bought her, not a purse. She says the purse was an apology later for breaking plans with her three times in a row, and that she’s since thrown the necklace out. Ouch.

Tae-ha grumbles that he was a lot better than she remembers him, and Yeo-reum agrees that it was a beautiful time but it passed quickly. Now whenever she sees him, all she thinks is that beautiful things only last for a second.

Yeo-reum excuses herself to the restroom and runs into Ah-rim on the way. Ah-rim asks politely what brings Yeo-reum here, to which Yeo-reum retorts that it’s none of her business. Ah-rim calls her out on her rudeness but Yeo-reum just says she has no reason to be happy to see her, and hopes not to see her again, though she does finally tell Ah-rim her name.

A grouchy Ah-rim then finds herself in an elevator with Tae-ha, who asks her if she’s here alone and takes offense at being called “ajusshi.” She bites his head off and says she’s here alone thankyouverymuch, then asks who he came with but he declines to answer. Yikes, everyone’s so super-touchy.

Ha-jin starts to call Yeo-reum and thinks about how he feels guilty that he’s been lying to her, remembering his mother’s words that he doesn’t need to tell her about Ah-rim and being adopted. Ha-jin and Ah-rim stop for lunch and she asks about the guy who saw them hiding from Yeo-reum that night, and he just says it’s some guy who works with his girlfriend.

Meanwhile Yeo-reum thinks that it was strange how Tae-ha didn’t want her looking towards a certain store, and Ha-jin’s caginess when he told her he had a seminar today. She calls Joon-ho who says Ha-jin didn’t come to work and doesn’t mention a seminar. She mulls over whether to call Ha-jin but knows it will cause a fight, and decides against it.

Sol meets with Director Yoon to go over some project details, and she returns the handkerchief he lent her the night that he drove her home. He asks her to a movie then gets all nervous and says it’s not a date, just a job perk, but he’s so adorably flustered that it’s obvious that to him, it’s totally a date. Sol makes his day by accepting.

Later that day, Joon-ho pops his head into Sol’s room and sees her in all her topless glory, which freaks him out way more than it does her. His legs give out and he mutters to himself that she doesn’t need that boob job she wanted, HAHA. When she comes out of her room he can’t keep his eyes from jumping down to her chest, hee, and gets further freaked out when she nonchalantly asks him to zip her up.

Sol informs him she’s going to a movie with Number 12, and he gripes that he’s supposed to be Number 12, so she invites him along. The guys spend the whole movie glaring at each other and having silent wars over who gets to share Sol’s popcorn, which is the cutest thing ever.

Back in the car with Tae-ha, Yeo-reum can’t stop thinking about Ha-jin and his behavior that morning, acting as if it was a normal day and he had nothing up his sleeve. So, exactly the same thing she was doing, then? She asks Tae-ha to stop the car and gets out for some air.

Yeo-reum thinks to herself that they only just made up after fighting over Ah-rim for a week, and when Tae-ha joins her she tells him she figured out that he saw Ha-jin at the mall. She asks why he didn’t tell her since it would have aided his cause of splitting them up, and he says he doesn’t care for foul play, but still denies that he saw Ha-jin.

Yeo-reum says this is why she can’t be with him, because what he wants comes first and if he really wanted her he wouldn’t mind foul play, which is just so backwards. She calms down and tells him that she’s nervous because Ha-jin said he was going to a seminar today, but then she saw Ah-rim at the mall. Tae-ha rightly points out that they’re together too, and that it’s no different from Ha-jin’s perspective.

Tae-ha reluctantly tells Yeo-reum that when he went for drinks with Ha-jin, Ha-jin had told him that Yeo-reum was The One and that there was nothing going on with Ah-rim. He figures there must be some other reason Ha-jin can’t tell her about Ah-rim, and advises her to find out what that is before she gets suspicious.

Sol and her dates head to a cafe where the passive-aggressive shenanigans continue, and Sol is either oblivious or very good at pretending she is. Yoon gets the drinks and Joon-ho spots Eun-gyu with his girlfriend a few tables over, fighting over the fact that he only takes her places where he has a coupon. She’s being really mean about it, and Sol gets up wordlessly and goes over to their table.

Yoon and Joon-ho look on as Sol complains that Eun-gyu used to always use coupons on their dates too, calling him a cheapskate. In fact, she tells the girlfriend, he’s such a cheapskate that he saved all his military paychecks to pay his sister’s tuition. She says she only received one birthday gift in the ten years they knew each other, but she was so grateful for it that she cried that whole night because he wore the same pair of shoes for a year to afford it.

Working herself up, Sol says that he uses coupons because he’s saving to buy a house for his future bride, and advises the girlfriend not to date him if she can’t understand that he saves on the little things in order to afford the big things.

Yoon catches himself with a moony smile on his face as he watches Sol, seeing her in angelic light with sparkles all around her, hee. He shakes it off for a moment, then succumbs to the mooniness. Joon-ho also sees the light and sparkles as he watches Sol tell Eun-gyu’s girlfriend to leave because she doesn’t deserve him, and he clutches his pounding heart.

Sol apologizes to Eun-gyu for going too far, but he stops her to thank her and apologize. She shakes him off and goes back to her admirers, who high-five each other at their girl’s awesomeness. She takes a fortifying drink of her latte, and the foam on her upper lip triggers a hilarious Secret Garden moment, complete with soundtrack –- both guys lean in to kiss it off her, but are stymied when Sol licks it off herself.

Ha-jin pulls up at the orphanage and has a flashback to their childhood when he brought Ah-rim back after being injured, and she was taken from him by the nuns. Ah-rim enjoys the feeling of being home, and tells Ha-jin that she grew up here until she went to college. She’s mobbed by a group of adorable children, and introduces Ha-jin to the boy who will be getting the first surgery for a large burn scar on his neck.

Ah-rim and one of the nuns watch Ha-jin playing with the kids, and the sister quickly susses out that Ah-rim likes him. Ah-rim says he has a girlfriend so she keeps it to herself, promising she won’t get greedy and want him. She watches him patch up a boy’s scraped arm and remembers her childhood oppa doing the same for her face, still unaware that her oppa and Ha-jin are the same person.

Tae-ha and Yeo-reum reach the lumber mill and check out some special wood, where Yeo-reum is praised for her ability to recognize fine lumber. They take a walk nearby and Tae-ha asks her if she remembers camping here, but Yeo-reum insists they’ve never been here before. Tae-ha half-teases that he wants to keep checking if she remembers things from their time together, because all of them, even the fights, are precious to him.

Yeo-reum says her fight with Ha-jin will be precious too, but Tae-ha quips that you have to break up before that can happen, so they should break up soon, heh. Yeo-reum whines that she’s only dated two guys and both of them are “used cars,” and Tae-ha calls her psychotic. He urges her again to break up with Ha-jin, promising to be really good to her. Cute.

On the way back to Seoul Tae-ha stops at a familiar lake, and it takes Yeo-reum a minute to recognize it as a place they came once with her father. A strange look crosses her face and she refuses to get out of the car, so Tae-ha goes by himself and remembers Yeo-reum setting up a picnic while her father fished.

Alone in the car, Yeo-reum starts to breathe heavily and looks like she’s having a panic attack, and when Tae-ha again asks her if she wants to get out, she’s unresponsive. Something is seriously wrong. She rouses enough to yell at him to get them out of here, and becomes unresponsive again when he starts to drive.

Worried, Tae-ha asks what’s wrong with her and whether she needs a hospital, but he suddenly freezes as a memory comes to him — he’d been walking with her father, who had told him that Yeo-reum had been crying a lot lately and asks him not to make her cry in the future. Tae-ha is all smiles as he promises that he plans to marry Yeo-reum, but her father is strangely serious as he warns Tae-ha not to live like him and his wife.

Her father is full of advice about how to deal with Yeo-reum, and Tae-ha jokes that he must be going somewhere far away, but her father doesn’t smile. Tae-ha remembers that those were his last words with him. I’m getting a very bad feeling.

In the car, a stunned Tae-ha stares at Yeo-reum and remembers Director Yoon telling him there was no record of an accident on the day that her father died. He forgets to watch the road and nearly drives into a road block, and he throws himself across Yeo-reum to shield her from the impact.

Yeo-reum’s eyes open, but instead of seeing the road, she’s locked in a shadowy memory of a rope, and feet hanging in midair as she enters a room. Oh no. No no no, anything but that. The car stops just before impact, and Tae-ha is relieved for only a moment until he sees that Yeo-reum is unconscious, and nothing he does wakes her.

Yeo-reum’s mother is, coincidentally, making her monthly trip to her husband’s memorial site with Producer Bae, who wonders why Yeo-reum has never come here. Mom just says it’s too hard for her, and Bae says she’s been better since she started dating Ha-jin. Mom knows she’s only pretending to be okay, and wonders how much her husband must have hated her to take his own life. She blames herself for hanging on when he asked to be let go, musing that in hindsight she should have let him be with the one he truly wanted. That’s interesting.

Tae-ha takes Yeo-reum to the hospital and the doctor tells him that she passed out from a sudden drop in blood pressure and heart rate in response to stress. He sits by her bedside and thinks back on their recent argument where she’d reminded him that she’d tried many times to call him right around the time of her father’s death, but he’d never answered.

He seems to have put the pieces together and figured out why she never told him her father died, and he begins to cry. He remembers all those calls he blew off or didn’t answer — he’d been tired from work, or in a meeting, and even once helping a coworker who’d been injured, but all of those excuses seem flimsy now in the face of what Yeo-reum had been going through.

He watches over Yeo-reum and thinks to himself that there were days back then that he couldn’t go to her, but there had been days he could have but chose not to. He remembers her crying at the train station that last day, asking if he wasn’t even curious why she was sad, and thinks that it was the last time she’d needed him. His hands shake and he sobs in earnest, as he wonders why he never even asked her what was wrong. He’d told her hundreds of times that he loved her, but he didn’t even know what love was. Tae-ha realizes that he can never dare to say “I love you” to Yeo-reum again, and that he has no right to say those words.

Ha-jin and Ah-rim eat with the kids, who invite them to stay the night. Ah-rim says they can slip out once the kids fall asleep, so Ha-jin agrees. They all settle down in a big room together with Ha-jin and Ah-rim a respectable distance apart, but the kids keep shuffling places until they’re lying together in the middle.

Ha-jin asks again how long Ah-rim lived here, and she tells him that she stayed until she graduated high school, then she left with only the three million won (just under $3000) from the government to live on and a college scholarship. Ha-jin asks if she blames her brother for being separated from her, and she (finally!) says he wasn’t her biological brother, but since she has no memory of her real parents, he was her only family.

In a small sad voice, Ah-rim says she missed her brother and cried a lot. But she’s done blaming him and she’s sure he lived a good life, so she’s okay. Ha-jin says he couldn’t have had that good a life since he left her behind, but Ah-rim says she would have chosen to be adopted too, if she were him. She starts to cry and stops talking, and Ha-jin also has to choke back his tears.

Yeo-reum wakes up in the hospital to find Tae-ha still hovering by her bedside. He reminds her of what happened and says they’ll never go back to that lake, and admits that he should have listened to her, today and back when they were dating. Yeo-reum is pale and drawn but she wants to go home, and Tae-ha says he’ll take her. She seems to notice a change in him, but doesn’t comment on it.

Joon-ho monitors his heart rate and declares himself fine, then stomps out to order Sol to come upstairs. She’s eating and refuses, and he notes how messy she is while she eats. Joon-ho puts his stethoscope back in his ears and tells Sol to say again what she said to Eun-gyu’s girlfriend about not deserving him, but then takes it back because surely his heart wouldn’t pound when she’s got food on her face and is sitting hunched over her food like a Neanderthal.

They start to argue and she yells at him to leave her alone, and even though she sprays food all over him, it’s close enough to what happened earlier to set Joon-ho’s heart thumping again. The cute love theme as Sol chomps her rice and scratches herself is hilarious, and poor Joon-ho reels in horror. He wails that there’s something wrong with his heart, and Sol just marvels at the crazy man.

Ha-jin drops Ah-rim and the little boy with the burn scar off at her place, and Ha-jin tells him he’ll do the surgery the day after tomorrow. He tells the boy to eat whatever he wants the next day to get strong, and gets an invitation to lunch in return.

Tae-ha calls Sol to come get Yeo-reum when he gets to their place, and he offers to piggyback her inside but despite her weakness, she insists on walking. She’s dizzy so he holds her close to lead her in, and Ha-jin pulls up right in time to see them walking close together. Joon-ho and Sol come out asking what happened to Yeo-reum, which sets off Ha-jin, and he jumps to the wrong conclusion and stalks towards Tae-ha with fury in his eyes.

COMMENTS

First of all, I have to correct the impression I gave last week that my annoyance with the characters indicates that I’m not enjoying the show as a whole. I’m actually liking Discovery of Romance very much — I had just hit a point where I was very frustrated because I didn’t understand why anyone was doing anything, and I wasn’t liking the characters all that much at that point in the story. In fact, I think it’s a sign of good writing that the characters and their actions were wringing such strong emotions out of me, and my annoyance at the characters in no way indicates that I don’t enjoy the show itself very much. Because I do!

The episodes since then have shed some light on why the characters are doing some of the things they do, so I’m feeling more sympathy and am much less confused and frustrated at certain characters and their behavior. Most especially Tae-ha, because I understand a bit more how he could say he loved Yeo-reum in the past and that he likes her now, yet he hasn’t been acting like it very much. I think he’s just been caught up in his own confidence that he always gets what he wants — all he has to do is want it, and he can have it. He didn’t feel the necessity of actually working for her heart and showing her his feelings, because he’d said it so she should believe it, and that was just that. That’s the way it always worked in the past, so he had no reason to believe it wouldn’t work the same way now.

I think the realization of why Yeo-reum didn’t tell him about her father’s death just hit him like a ton of bricks, and made him see that sometimes, if you love someone, you should just be there for them when they need you even if you don’t know why. True, he didn’t understand why she kept calling and refusing to tell him what the problem was, so it was easy to say it couldn’t be that important if she wouldn’t even say what was wrong. But he knows now that the correct response wasn’t to blow her off. I’m not saying he should have dropped everything for her, but even he admits that he could have made time for her and didn’t. He should have known by her behavior that she just needed him, and would tell him why in her own time.

I also understand now where Yeo-reum was coming from when she just kept asking him to come be with her and not ask why, because finding her father that way had to be bad enough without then having to say the words. All she wanted was for her boyfriend to be there for her and just not make her say “My father killed himself and I found him,” out loud. Even aside from the cultural stigma around suicide, I can’t imagine how hard it must be to go find a loved one that way and then have to actually say those words out loud. It was so horrible that she never even told her two best friends. So I can sympathize with Yeo-reum’s need to just be able to lean on someone without having to explain. With that on top of the other problems they’d been having, it’s no surprise that Yeo-reum felt that she couldn’t count on Tae-ha, and broke up with him.

I think Tae-ha sees now why his actions were wrong to just assume that it couldn’t be that bad if Yeo-reum wasn’t telling him what was happening. And I understand now what she was trying to say at the train station on their last day — that the fact that she wasn’t talking should have been indication that whatever it was, was very very bad. I’m not saying either one of them handled it well, but I can see better now why they made the choices they did. Communication has always been their weak point and their downfall, and hopefully now that Tae-ha has pretty much guessed what happened and knows that lack of communication was the final nail in the coffin, he can do something to fix that between himself and Yeo-reum.

As for Ha-jin, I understand a little more why he’s staying silent too, at least with Ah-rim. His fear of her resenting him for being adopted and leaving her behind is understandable, and I do think he believes that he just wants to help her because he lived a good life and she’s had it hard. But I don’t think it’s entirely innocent, otherwise he would be talking to Yeo-reum more and not letting her come to the worst conclusions, and I think his consistency in choosing Ah-rim over Yeo-reum is suspect. I still don’t know exactly what his feelings are towards Ah-rim, nor do I think he even knows, but he’s going to have to figure it out quickly. Because Tae-ha now knows what he did wrong and he’s going to step up his game, and if Ha-jin doesn’t want to lose Yeo-reum he’s going to have to start getting real honest, real fast.

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I just can't with Ha jin anymore. I hope he doesn't end up with anyone.

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don't be so bad i think he looks good with Ah Rim. i just can't stand his scenes with Yeo Reum.

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He sees her as a sister! And so did I until this episode. Ew.
Gosh I hope he comes clean about his adoption soon.

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You and me both. Frankly, his 'let's turn it around on Yeo Reum' policy is also irritating me greatly. And getting caught sneaking around holding hands and then leaving with the other woman from last episode...well, if I was Yeo Reum, he'd have already found his shit packed and sitting at the door.

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Ha! They used the Sassy girl theme song during the cafe scene with Sol

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does anyone know the title of the song at the end of episode 8?

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I think it is called Afraid To Say I Love You by Acoustic Collabo. Lyrics as translated by samsooki:

니 생각에 꽤 즐겁고
My thought of you is rather happy

니 생각에 퍽 외로워
My thought of you is terribly lonely

이상한 일이야 누굴 좋아한단 건
This is a strange thing - who is it that I love?

아무 일도 없는 저녁
On an evening with nothing to do

집 앞을 걷다 밤 공기가 좋아서
I walk in front of my house because the night air is nice

뜬금없이 이렇게 니가 보고 싶어
Without warning I miss you so

참 묘한 일이야 사랑
This is such a strange thing, love

좋아서 그립고 그리워서 외로워져
You long for one you love, and your longing turns to loneliness

이게 다 무슨 일일까
What does all this mean,

내 맘이 내 맘이 아닌걸
That my heart is not my heart?

이제와 어떡해 모든 시간 모든 공간
What do I do now with all this time, all this space?

내 주위엔 온통 너뿐인 것 같아 묘해
It feels like everything around me is just you, it’s strange

보고 싶어 신기하고
That I miss you, is amazing

신기해서 보고 싶고
That it is amazing, makes me miss you

그러다 한 순간 미친 듯 불안하고
Just that in that moment, I am crazy insecure

아무렇지도 않은데
Even though there is nothing wrong

햇살에 울컥 눈물이 날 것 같고
Even in the sunlight I feel like my tears will come

그러다가 니 전화 한 통에 다 낫고
And I feel like everything will be better if you call

참 묘한 일이야 사랑은
This is such a strange thing, love

아파서 고맙고 고마워서 대견해져
You are thankful to feel pain, and proud to feel thankful

이게 다 무슨 일일까
What does all this mean?

이 길이 그 길이 아닌걸
This road is not that road

모르고 떠나온 여행처럼 낯설지만
Like going on a trip without knowing where you are going, this is unfamiliar to me

그래서 한번 더 가보고 싶어져 너
And so I want to take this road once more with you

이렇게 너를 바라볼 때
When I am looking at you as I am now

뭐랄까 나는 행복한 채로 두려워져
How can I say, that I want to keep being happy but it making me scared

참 묘한 일이야 사랑은
This is such a strange thing, love

좋아서 그립고 그리워서 외로워져
You long for one you love, and your longing turns to loneliness

이게 다 무슨 일일까
What does all this mean,

내 맘이 내 맘이 아닌걸
That my heart is not my heart?

이제와 어떡해 모든 시간 모든 공간
What do I do now with all this time, all this space?

내 주위엔 온통 너뿐인 것 같아 묘해
It feels like everything around me is just you, it’s strange

그래서 한번 더 가보고 싶어져 너와
And so I want to take this road once more with you

You can find rhe song on YT. :)

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Whoops I thought you asked for end of ep 9 episode OST song...

Sorry!

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The song you are referring to is called "어땠을까" by Psy and one of my fav singers Lena Park. In English it is "What might have been."

YT:

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=z6In9jqBxyM&feature=youtu.be

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hai samsooki, thanks for the help...
I also felt that the rapper is psy but I am not sure with the female artist :D

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Lena Park = voice of a goddess.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45rRDLFeghc

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yes, his voice really caught my attention, that's why I have to ask this forum :D
I want to listen to another song from lena park, any recommendations?
once again, thank you for your help

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Lena Park - Reflection
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8j2Ed5YZ7g

Lena Park - You Raise Me Up (live)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Px2n_LrTG_8

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What the title of that song (theme song during the cafe scene between sol and her ex)? please help me :)

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what the title of the song (theme song during cafe when sol with her ex) ? anyone please help me :)

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what's the title?

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I totally feel for Yeo reum, I understand her a lot better now.

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I love the attention that Sol and her suitors get in this episode - daebak!

This week I feel the frustration you felt for last week's episodes Lollypip when it comes to the BIG things people are not telling their significant others. I am really frustrated with Ha-jin and the hoops he has others jumping through because of the guilt he carries for leaving his "sister" in the orphanage. He even knows he's leaving gaping holes with his behavior that, really, a simple explanation would take care of. His intentions are a good reason in his mind to behave as he is, but others can't read his mind, and he is getting a "pass" from Yeo reum when he really doesn't deserve it.

I am even rather annoyed at the noble idiocy a$$coverage Tae-ha gives Ha-jin by telling Yeo-reum to give him the benefit of the doubt. I know I should like that he does that, but the information that EVERYONE is withholding from their relationships has created a very messy broken trust environment that is going to require mega damage control at some point. Is anyone being honest, here?

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Not to be argumentative, but doesn't everyone in the world do the same thing?

We tell the truth to those we care about, except when we don't because of reasons that may or may not make 100% sense.

We tell the truth to those we do not care about, except when we don't for reasons we do not have to explain to anyone.

And we lie when we feel we must (or want to or are asked to), either fibbing directly or lying by omission, because it is either for the "greater good" or because it makes things easier (for us or them or a combination) or because it is polite (don't say anything if you can't say anything nice) or because it isn't your place to say something or anyone of hundred other reasons why not telling the truth is morally or ethically defensible.

I'm not even sure it is possible to be 100% honest all the time and still exist in relationships. A 100% honest and forthright person would SERIOUSLY annoy the heck out of people.

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Everyone lies at times of course.

But lying and shifting the blame on the other person is on another level. And continuing to put that other friend first.

This is a doomed relationship, and not just because of the lying.

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Agreed. Plus, something about Ha Jin's tone of voice when he speaks to Yeo Reum really sets my teeth on edge...it's almost like he's pacifying a child instead of talking to an equal (it may just be a language-barrier kind of thing, but it sets off alarm bells for me - that kind of speech from a boyfriend means controlling behavior and serious condescension down the line.)

At least Kang Tae Ha talks to her like a grown up (though she really has crappy taste in men, overall.) Personally, I'm rooting for Sol and her bestie - I want them to realize they're perfect for each other, marry, and get out from underneath Yeo Reum and her drama queen boyfriends.

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<that kind of speech from a boyfriend means controlling behavior and serious condescension down the line

Yeah, to me his behaviour is all red flags. These are classic signs of emotional abuse. It could have been one-off, but he turned around, lied again and went off with Ah-rim again. Even if he now tells Yeo-reum the truth and gives her reasons which make sense to a degree (adoption is taboo, he feels guilt towards Ah-rim), the distrust and the disrespect are already there.

He could change in the future, but trust is a hard thing to rebuild.

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You're so right, especially about the speech it's all so...forced.

Go Sol!

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YES!

You've totally nailed what I could not quite put my finger on.

THAT'S why I like Kang Tae Ha waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than NHJ.

THAT'S why I want KTH to kick NHJ's ass.

I think NHJ thinks he's better than everyone else. It takes an understanding that you are capable of (but also prone to) making mistakes and hurting other people, that puts a layer of humility back into a person.

I think KTH understands now that he was saying words he didn't understand, putting people into positions of reliance of him even though he couldn't take responsibility for those words. I think KTH realizes how deeply those words can hurt if not fulfilled. And so I think KTH doesn't consider himself better than HYR.

Well done.

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I like the 3 leads more now, but I am not convinced that any of them are ready to be in a healthy relationship. Not that that means much, lots of people are in relationships who aren't necessarily skilled at being in them and quite a few people figure it out as they go along.

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Sol wins this episode! The Tae-ha and Ah-rim moment is kinda cute.

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I love Sol so much! man, i could so watch a drama with her as the main character. As for Tae ha, I feel like he's redeeming himself. Before I actually really didn't like him, he was such a jerk, but he's slowly starting to put Yeoreum's interest infront of his own, even it it means he's unhappy (like when he defended Ha jin, when Yeoreum thought the situtstion was suspicious)
I acutally like Yeorum, i dont know why she gets so much hate. To me she is a very real character. I love that she isnt a typical, innocent, oblivious, wide-eyed, female lead, but a very capable one. Yes, she can be manipulative, but Tae ha, is the one who made her like that.

Also, am i the only one who cant stand Ahrim? Yeah, she has the typical female character sap story, working 5 jobs, orphan, etc.. but she really annoys me. She's still going around with Ha jin and wearing makeup, trying to get noticed by him, knowing he has a girl friend, and also shes in school, theres probably a big age difference to. I feel like she is so rude to Yeoreum, yelling at her that she misunderstood the situation, etc.. when infact she didnt as Ah rim does like Ha jin romantically. And wtf Ha jin, you better have a actualy reason for being secretive to everyone or im going to scream.

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Ahrim is the worst because she pretends to take the high road, i.e. suppress her feelings for Hajin because he has a girlfriend, in front of everyone which makes her the victim but her actions are totally trying to drive a wedge between Yeorum and Hajin. Putting on makeup, going to the orphanage together, sleeping in the same room knowing that she has strong feelings for him and that he may having feelings himself. And then on top of that she's so darn proud that she actually attacks Yeorum when they're together. I'm not saying Yeorum is the best girlfriend with her keeping her history with Taeha hidden from HaJin but at least right now she really doesn't have feelings for Taeha so she's not actively deceiving Hajin the way Ahrim is...

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hehe I can never hate Ah Rim since the actress that plays her is so cute. Like I could never hate Yoo In Na even when she played the villain. Also, I am ready for Kim Seul Gi to have her own drama already. She is just awesome-sauce.

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i like the actress too but i hate her character in this drama and despise her character in AGD (whiny brat). but the actress has screen presence and bright(in literal sense), i want to see her in better roles.

and yes to everything sweetyoon is saying. she was acting way too proud in front of the guy's gf and not so coincidentally that she is in fact very much in love with him at this point. where does all the haughtiness and confidence come from? they were caught a few times already by Yeo-reum, all in suspicious light no less, yes, Yeo-reum is not the best girlfriend ever either but that is none of her business, its between Yeo-reum and Ha-jin. such misplaced ego. you hated being accused? stop seeing the guy after office hours. and stop calling him too. not that Ha-jin is innocent in all this glorious mess, he's the worst of them all though i can see where he is coming from too but the guy needs to make up his mind already.

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Oh don't start about that character in AGD...OMG she was so annoying I was afraid I'd never like the actress in anything else.

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Yoon Jin-Yi is the name of the actress playing An A-Rim. Apparently the character Im Meari in A Gentleman's Dignity was her very first role.

In Mandate of Heaven (aka The Fugitive of Joseon) she was a real hoot and really rocked it big time as the tomboyish So-Baek.

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I am with you--I like Yeo Reum and really dislike Ah Rim--maybe in part because I find her incredibly boring and flat? She's your typical candy girl, but is cute without seeming to have any depth. Obviously Ha Jin deserves most of the flack for withholding information from both YR and AR, and spending questionable time with AR, but AR knows what she is doing, too, and when she yelled at YR a few episodes back? Suddenly she gets to yell at YR because she claims she's being "stalked" by someone who perhaps rightfully believes that her boyfriend is stepping out on her?

I think part of my dislike of AR is that I think the actress is not doing a good job in the role. It's all, HI I'M CUTE and I speak in a cutesy voice!

And yes, YR, for all her flaws, is at least interesting. I don't understand viewers who look at a character and think, "God, this character isn't perfect like some Mary Sue so I don't like them." What about character growth? I want my characters to go on a personal journey during a drama, where I can watch them make mistakes and become better people.

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"I think part of my dislike of AR is that I think the actress is not doing a good job in the role. It’s all, HI I’M CUTE and I speak in a cutesy voice!"

I thought I was the only one who felt like this, I dislike the character so much because of the way the actress plays her.

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I don't think AAR speaks with a cute voice (that's her voice. should she change it because someone else thinks its cute or not cute?).

And I think all of the women in this drama are cute (and act cute occasionally) in their own way. Should you dislike all of them for the aegyo that each displays from time to time?

AAR is a static character, yes. She is static because that's her role - she is a foil and an off-main character that is written to produce dynamic emotional movement in the main characters.

AAR's role is one who has lived a tough life. She grew up not knowing her parents, not having a single memory, happy or sad, of her mom. She grew up with other abandoned or tragic kids, and she had to swallow her pain, her pride, her anger, her loneliness, so that she could take care of herself and train herself to be strong when all other kids were being cuddled by their parents.

If the last thing that NHJ, as oppa, taught AAR was "don't let anyone talk down to you," then that's how AAR is going to react. Don't let ANYONE talk down to you. You have just as much right to exist and be happy as ANYONE else.

I have a lot of sympathy for individuals, who, like the fictional AAR, have had to pull themselves up through life. If they aren't "nice" or "polite" in accordance with how parents have taught their kids to behave, then well, they didn't have parents - so I can accept them as they are.

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My dislike, or rather lack of investment in the character is more of the result of how static she is, which manifests itself as the sweet/pure candy girl who is cute but has not displayed a lot of depth in characterization despite her background. Perhaps I feel as though the only reasons I am supposed to like her is because she fits the mold of sympathy instead I showing it. That said, I actually liked her for the first time in the scene with the little boy when Ha Jin stood them up for lunch. Her anger and disappointment made her more interesting to me then. I supposed it felt realistic and specific for once. Perhaps by the end of the show I will feel great affection for her--I hair don't now. But some people who have hate YR earlier have also come around sice then.

And let me backtrack, perhaps my annoyance with the who "stalker" argument should have been with Ha Jin. Of course Ah Rim has a right to defend herself--it was his response that made me defensive for YR since he is acting weird and sketchy.

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Not to disagree too much, but -

It appears that you are not happy with a girl trying to win over a boy, who, at the moment, has another.

Doesn't every individual have the right to pursue who they want?

Isn't that the whole thing about relationships, trying to find the one that works best for everyone?

And sometimes, when one relationship fails to work, it is because there is a better relationship waiting to develop. Sometimes, that means that the odd-person out gets hurt. That's what happens sometimes.

And we often get this idea that "first in time means first in line" applies to relationships. Well, sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't. And that's not an opinion, that's just what happens.

I think AAR, as a character, is pretty awesome. I also happen to like the actress who plays the role. That said, I also think that the actress is not quite right for the role. I think that the character of AAR should have been far more rough and tumble, far more reticent and closed off, far more pessimistic and cynical about life, than AAR. But as I think about it more right now, maybe not? Maybe, since AAR has such a strong relationship with the orphanage run by the nuns, that she feels that she has a duty to remain positive and cheery, even if she feels otherwise, because she has to be the older sister to so many kids who desperately need someone like that in their lives.

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I disagree she is pretty awesome. Opposite of that.

She has a right to fall for anyone, just like everybody else, but her action has to follow suit, if she made the bed she has to lie in it, instead of claiming to even Sister she is NOT going to pine after an attached guy when her action is speaking loudly otherwise.

Obviously the nuns love her, the orphans love her, their Bigsis, she is in college, she has side jobs which were not too horrible for her to make a note YR was the memorable rude customer just by being snippy for a few words with her. It is really not so terribly woe is me if she can look at a more positive light instead of faking the joie de vivre.

And the actress imo is horrible at her job, she is too scarily plastic for one.

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I'm with you mookie and others who find this Ah Rim character annoying.
At this point, even though the show does not put me in a good mood when I watch it I still think it has an interesting story with intriguing characters. It's also pretty hard (at least for me) to drop a show half way since I'm already emotionally invested in the characters. But gosh, I could not stand this character Ah Rim. At the beginning she seemed pretty ok. A cute girl who works hard and always smiles. As the story progresses she just appears to be this fake Candy who talks sweetly in front of certain people and then acts selfishly behind everyone's back. Of course she has the right to pursue whom she likes but I think generally if the person you like is already in a relationship you should not make advances and keep your feelings to yourself.

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Seriously, u can not be Candy wo being truly sweet, I'd rather have the gd old cliche than this bastardized w MeanGirl thing. There is standing up for oneself but that generally does not incur trampling all over other peep's territory.

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mookie = *over here*

samsooki = *over there*

That's okay though. Our tags rhyme and that's good enough for me.

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One more and we can go ㅋㅋㅋ at our handles.

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Well, samsooki I also happen to like the actress who plays the role, but God.. AAR continue to display such a bratty character. The scene after she met HYR at the department store, she said that HYR is annoying and mean.. But how can HYR did not act that way when she caught her boyfriend preparing breakfast for another girl, and holding hands with her.. And she even didn't have remorse at all that she's spending time with HYR boyfriend.. If I were HYR maybe I will smack her pretty little head to the nearby trashcan..
I always try to reason what she does until now, because I find her cute but now she's just liar, two-faced judgmental bitch..

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I am even peeved with her not telling NHJ right away she saw his gf, instead had the audacity to badmouth YR then nudging a passive aggressive snide later when they were lunching, totally along the line of suggesting y he picked YR when there must be better ladies out there for him. And i can not stand NHJ not even having the care to call YR checking on her, or just giving her a head's up when he has to stay for a sleepover, however brief, that's neglect on his part at least. When he saw her incapacitated in TH's arms his priority was to be seething in jealousy instead of being consumed by concern of her well being first, he could spare the distraction on brooding accusatively at everyone and never for a moment felt any remorse, any guilt for his neglect, let alone the lying.

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i'm glad u wrote this. i knew AAR would get hate sooner or later, cause she's too "cute" or "sweet" or "fake" or ppl argue she's trying to steal yeo reum's boyfriend. like if he is as devoted to yeo reum as he says? she would have no way of "stealing" him with her suppressed crush and her big bunny eyes. she would be a "typical" candy girl if she was the lead and the story was about her moving some rich cold chaebol with her perkiness and heart but none of that is the case so....?
she isnt all sparkles and smiles. just cause YR is more overtly cold/closed off or calculating (which until this ep everyone was hating on her for. but now AAR is the worst cause she's too nice and thus boring???) doesnt mean ah rim doesnt have her own demons to fight. both women have endured forms of emotional isolation and abandonment but in v diff contexts and environments.
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like i personally WAS worried she would be v "flat" and boring but she ultimately wasnt thankfully and tbh i'm alot more interested in her history and life now than i am for either of the main guys. and i dont dislike either of them per se, but i feel like there's alot more to ah rim than first appeared? i mean the actual ugly reality of what living while being so so poor and having to work all the time. having no knowledge of any real family or belonging, esp in SK where bloodlines and family ancestry is super important??
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When she flipped out at the kid when he was crying for his mom i was like "ohhhhhhh" cause i think we finally got a glimpse of the internal struggle SHE has to deal with on the regular. idk just cause she smiles why do ppl assume she's bland and lacking depth? its hilarious considering in the same drama ha jin and yeo reum BOTH thought the other had charmed lives when the reality was v much not the case for either of them. so i think its safe to say just cause ah rim seemed all innocent sunshine at first that doesnt mean she IS.
but yeah first YR and now AAR. i suppose the drama viewers wont be happy unless they get to insult and hate at least ONE female character. all it took was YR's dad killing himself and ppl were finally willing to give her a break. now i guess we should see what horrors need to befall or have befallen ah rim so ppl can stop being nasty about her too.

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Props for the hommage to Secret Garden: The scene at the coffee shop with Do Joon-Ho and Yoon Jung-Mok ogling at the foam on Yoon Sol's lips. Oh, it brought back the feels - the music, memories, and OTP chemistry from Secret Garden.

Unlike what was expressed and experienced by some, the main leads have yet to annoy, frustrate, or irritate me. Probably because I expect and feel strongly that the payoff is coming and will be worthwhile. Similarly to how patience was rewarded in Que Sera Sera and when things/events played out - they unfolded <Big Time.

If anything, episode 9 of DOR felt like it was starting to hit its stride and come into its on. Episode 10 firmly helped reinforce this...particulary Tae-Ha.

Kang Tae-Ha, Han Yeo-Reum, and Nam Ha-Jin are fascinating to watch and observe. The on-camera interviews are essentially charater study aides for us...revealing their points of view and thought processes.

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The writing in this K-romcom is definitely good.

I wasn't as frustrated w/ how the characters were acting b/c w/o it, wouldn't be much happening, and there is a plausible rationale for them to have acted the way they did (unlike in so many K-dramas).

Really see the changes in Eric's character and the impetus for it.

I guess the love triangle w/ Sol, Yoon and Joon-ho was inevitable, but I'm rooting for Director Yoon (who, despite his age, was so smitten and bashful).

I like Sol and Joon-ho to remain best buds and romance all to often gets in the way of that; and besides, not quite buying Joon-ho seeing So in a diff. light after all these yrs just b/c he saw her boobs (that's what he does) and saw her stick up for her ex (but it does make for entertaining TV).

I would rather have this be a momentary of jealousness that good friends of opposite sex can have when there is a new guy/gal in the picture.

Yoon Jin-yi looks better w/ less makeup.

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thanks for the recap lollypip~!

mm.. after last week I was happy with the status quo... Yeo-reum stays with Ha-jin and the others remain single.. except for maybe Joon-ho and Sol.

I was happy with that as I don't think it was good for another party to step in and try to deliberately break up a relationship.. .

I think I am still of the same mind this week.... although I do wish Ha-jin would be more open about his relationship with Ah-rim. it actually took Tae-ha to tell Yeo-reum which is very noble of him.. I applaud that..

now I guess we will see Ha-jin self-destruct and destroy this relationship on his own by jumping to conclusions.

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Hajin's Mom is all for keeping everything a secret so imagine there are some cultural bias against adoption going on but it's all so messy...if he's been feeling guilty and hiding his adoption all these years he probably needs therapy and we know Yeorum does too

Taeha is so absurdly self centered and finally has an inkling of self awareness so he can go too

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I jist realized the ending wasn't a misunderstanding because Yeoreum hid that she was going to be with Taeha that day

I forgot Taeha and Yeoreum are still hiding their past from Hajin...dude Hajin and Yeorum are already over...when that comes out everything is done...

Let's compare: I was adopted and feel guilty for leaving my "sister" behind so I'm looking for her and doing free surgery on other orphans and spending time with her while keeping my social stigma adoption a secret versus Taeha and Yeorum dating for 5 years with Taeha openly pursuing Yeorum while she works with him and is with him constantly while also keeping it a secret

They are both bad but one appears much worse

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I'm not sure if I agree with the characterizations of these people being bad or worse than bad.

There are reasons for things, and some reasons are more persuasive and important than others. Sometimes, the really important reasons to do something can trump other really important reasons not to do the exact same thing, or sometimes, they balance. Sometimes, we decide based on reasons that are unrelated to how we feel, and that causes other issues.

These are all things that happen to everyone. Nobody is perfect, and I think that so long as their hearts are in the right place, then perhaps they should just be characterized as being normal people, rather than "bad" or "worse."

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I'm referring to the secrets looking bad or worse...not the people

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>I jist realized the ending wasn’t a misunderstanding because Yeoreum hid that she was going to be with Taeha that day

I disagree. She said she was doing a work thing; she works with KTH. No biggie. They went to work, they came back.

Unlike Mr. "Oh- I forgot I had a "seminar"." she didn't try to pretend she wasn't doing what she was actually doing. Ha Jin, on the other hand, lied about where he was going and what he was doing - and he was doing it with someone he and his girlfriend had already fought about.

Frankly, I think Ha Jin is the worst one in this 4-way relationship. He keeps lying (even when a simple explanation would suffice - 'hey, I'm doing some pro bono work for this orphanage', for example) Instead of telling YR that he's working with this girl on behalf of some orphaned kids (which would keep his mother's confidence while still being true), he lies about meeting her, lies about going places with her, refuses to explain anything to YR but insists she "trust" him when he keeps demonstrating that he's abusing her trust.

I think YR needs to get some therapy so she can figure out why she keeps choosing untrustworthy men.

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I don't even know why but that last sentence about YR seeking therapy cracked me up since I don't find TH untrustworthy. In their relation he was neglectful and took some advantage of her understanding but he never lied to her or his things like HJ does.

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>In their relation he was neglectful and took some advantage of her understanding but he never lied to her or his things like HJ does.

But he couldn't be trusted to fulfill his promises - for example, her talking about him not showing up three times in a row (and the viewer sees the larger broken promise that KTH made to YR's father, as well.)

At this point, Yeo Reum should probably just buy a vibrator and swear off men altogether.

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After the elevator scene between tae he and ah rim,i wish they could be paired against each other

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I feel like that scene is a nod to QSS with the whole elevator and ajusshi thing.

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yeah that was kinda cool of them for QSS fans.

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For some reason, I'm actually convinced that Ha Jin and Yeo Reum will be the end-game for the drama. Although of course in dramaland, we hardly ever really know. writers can be trolls sometimes. so let me say that I side with the Ha Jin and Yeo Reum romance.

First of all, there is a sincerity in the Ha-Jin YR romance. They've only been dating for a year and so it's understandable that they still have a lot of communication issues to work out but as far as their feelings are concerned, i think it's sincere. They have this pattern to only be stirred first by each other. The fact that Ha Jin forgets about lunch appointments because he is happy under the sun with Yeo Reum and the fact that he lets Yeo Reum win all the time are indicators that his feelings for Yeo Reum are real and that with Ah Rim it's simply a brotherly-sisterly love. I don't think he's going through confusion. He just happens to be a guy who feels responsible for his past. And he's nice like that.

Yeo Reum on the other hand has never let Kang Tae Ha come first before Nam Ha Jin. Her preoccupations of Nam Ha Jin even when she is with Kang Tae Ha show that she is hardly swayed by Kang Tae Ha coming back. Now it could be her anger that's causing this but it could also really be that she knows what kind of love she wants. Of course there's no telling how the drama will turn that around... there's always a possibility to turn the tables completely and if Han Yeo Reum will begin to think that she loves Kang Tae Ha well then I'm pretty sure Nam Ha Jin will be broken and it somehow doesnt feel right to me that Ahn Ah Rim is for Ha Jin.

one thing for sure though, Han Yeo Reum is lucky.
p.s. i don't know but I sort of like Kang Tae Ha for Ahn Ah Rim. Hehe

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I don't disagree with anything you've said except for the characterization of Ah-Rim and Nam Ha Jin as brotherly-sisterly love.

From the NHJ side - I think that that's how NHJ feels (now), based on how he felt (then), and that's all we know about it (now).

From the AAR side - I think she likes NHJ (as she admitted), based on how she fees (now), and does not know about NHJ's past connection to her.

Once that past is revealed, the question is whether AAR will change how she feels, or whether that child-child protective relationship is the foundation for something more romantic in the future.

So, I am totally fine with them developing a romantic relationship later, if NHJ ever gets over his survivor's guilt and turns his past's protective oppa feeling in a current romantic oppa feeling.

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That said, I would rather see HYR with KTH.

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<<<They’ve only been dating for a year and so it’s understandable that they still have a lot of communication issues to work out

I always find that if you can't communicate early on, it never works out. Rather, people behaving like that in the first year is a big red flag for troubles to come. There is more than just communication issues here, he's blaming her for something he knows he did, and after that he still continues to put Ah-rim first, despite well knowing how Yeo-reum feels and also how Ah-rim feels about him too. Yeo-reum is not lucky at all. There's no respect here at all.

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I agree, alua. If you can't talk at first, you aren't going to magically learn to talk later, unless you get professional counseling. In fact, as time goes by it actually gets harder and harder to reveal old stuff that you really should have resolved days, weeks, months, or even years ago.

To me, this episode was key: who are these people actually, really talking to? The tears and confessions are shared between HJ and AR, and between YR and TH. And if you can't bare your soul, you shouldn't be baring anything else. ;-)

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Your last lines are do true. Who are these people really talking to. I need YR and HJ to assess that and really think of the "why" that is. Theyay ce to much needed conclusions about themselves and their relationship and save each other heartache down the line.

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And in any way, there were reasons why TH and YR couldn't work out the first time. They were young and didn't know how to be in a relationship despite being in love. It's true that they could have worked out but time has already passed them by. To be honest, if they have to end up together anyway, I feel that it wouldn't be right for Nam Ha Jin to be dropped by YR so easily. Despite not knowing much about YR, Ha Jin is the one who helped YR get herself together. He was there when YR was healing so it would be off-putting if that relationship gets thrown off the wagon so easily because YR decides it's TH. If YR has to be with TH, I feel that she and HJ should break up for a reason that is not Ahn Ah Rim or KTH. It has to be between NHJ and YR themselves. no third parties.

Although there are a lot of cobwebs in the HJ-YR relationship for now, they have a habit of peeling through each issue and working through it one by one. They always choose each other and I think that is most important. If they stop thinking of each other first then that's the time they should both rethink their relationship. For now though, they are consistently heading back towards each other...

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HJ-YR are hiding big side of them selves and not being hones. T knows her but is it normal to have a 5 year relationship in korea? She blamed him for not knowing,but glad she relized because it was hard for her to say it out loud
Great advertising for the braking system of the car. I have seen some commercial about them too

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But they don't peel through those cobwebs and resolve anything. They either flat out lie, brush it off, or let the other get away with it just to avoid confrontation, then they proceed to kiss and ignore the prolegs till it smacks them in the face once again. Since the very first episode thus has been washed, rinsed, and repeated in their relationship. Nothing about the two is healthy or long lasting in my opinion.

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<I feel that she and HJ should break up for a reason that is not Ahn Ah Rim or KTH

I think they've already got reasons to break up that aren't AR/KTH.

<If they stop thinking of each other first then that’s the time they should both rethink their relationship.

If you get into a disagreement with your girlfriend and go after the other girl and take her home, you are not thinking of your girlfriend first. The only exception would be extenuating circumstances, e.g. the other person might commit suicide and there's no one else to stop her.

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I'm rooting for Tae Ha-Yeo Reum just because I think when they have screen together, it's absolutely entertain me despite their messy characters. But after watching episode 8 (?) when Tae Ha visiting YR in her studio, myself want them to be together even more and more... Yeo Reum may not realize that she still needs him. Look how easy for Tae Ha to convince her in many cases, such as saying there's nothing going on between AR-NHJ, persuade her to accept working with TH's company, even she told him that she feels nervous about her relationship with NHJ. She always be herself around Tae Ha which just wonderful to see.

I like Tae Ha's character development among others. He shows his maturity in more episodes. And hopefully Yeo Reum realizes what actually she needs soon.

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Fast Forwarding through most of the idol scenes makes you realise that the writing is excellent.

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I feel Yeo Reum pain but Tae Ha is there to save the day =D
If Yeo Reum keeps on being stupid and rejects Tae Ha i'm gonna ship Ah Rim and Tae Ha lol

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I hope Yeo Reum keeps rejecting Tae Ha. Stupidity on her part would be accepting someone as self absorbed and casually cruel as Tae Ha back into her life unless he make some major changes.

I hope Yeo Reum gets some counseling though. The poor girl's relationship with Tae Ha and then finding her father like that really messed her up.

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Aaaah, Yoon Hyun Min!

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Thank you LollyPip for the recap!
And... I'm totally agreeing with everything you wrote. It was frustrating the last few episodes, but this week's episodes explained a lot and made things a lot more clear.

I do like this drama again, and realize a lot of the reasons that things frustrate me is because it feels very real in some ways.

I really like Yeo-Reum, for all of her flaws. I liked that she didn't pretend to be polite to Ah-Rim when they met at the mall. She is straight forward and is not passive aggressive. I like that, and it's refreshing to see in a heroine in a K drama.

Ha Jin... I still don't like that you're not communicating and do not seem to know where boundaries end. Is there really hope for you? Because at this point, it seems like you don't deserve either girl. I said I gave up on him, but I hope the writers do a satisfactory job in shaping up his character. I do have hope after this episode though that they have a good plan ahead of them.

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Also, I seriously love Sol and that whole storyline D: It cannot be said enough. She is so cute without having to try hard.

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I think I disagree about Ha Jin.

Ha Jin might have made mistakes, but so has everyone in the whole drama.

Ha Jin's mistakes have been centered around not telling his gf about how important Ah Rim is to him - the fact that he has survivor's guilt and carries around a gigantic yoke around his neck because of how he lost who he considers to be his sister. That's pretty much it. How is that a death penalty offense?

In fact, KTH did worse in the past.

If you like Nam Ha Jin, then it is fine to support Ha Jin and that pairing.

If you like Kang Tae-Ha more, then it is fine to support KTH and that pairing.

I happen to like KTH more (in this drama) and so I support what I consider to be the OTP.

But if others think that NHJ and HYR is the OTP, then that works too because NHJ hasn't really done anything wrong from a certain point of view.

1. He is a kind and generous person.
2. He is considerate and deeply reflective.
3. He is a good son to his mother.
4. He is a good doctor who hasn't forgotten where he came from.
5. He tries to protect and care for his GF.
6. He is a guy, and so he doesn't always share all of his feelings or all of his thoughts with his significant other. This has led to issues, but no more or less than other relationships.

There's nothing wrong with NJH from my perspective, but I just like KTH more.

And that's why I want KTH to kick NHJ's ass. I think there are a few ladies on DB who have already volunteered to tend to NHJ after he is beaten up and heartbroken, so I am not worried about NHJ after this happens.

:D

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I love Kang Tae Ha too….No need to ask why because everyone knows the answer he's the most hottie CEO ever….* weird reason**

Umm….actually, I prefer KTH over NHJ because he's such a gentleman, cool, not boring, handsome, competitive, and seems type of person to whom we could lean and comfortable with…etc..etc..all the requirement for being an attractive namja is in him…so….*fangirling alert

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Oh, I hope I didn't give the wrong impression. You're right, everyone has made mistakes and has both good and bad qualities. It's what makes this show really interesting and well written. Also the writers are definitely doing a good job at fleshing out the characters, and giving them second chances.

I can't help but be very frustrated with Ha Jin, because personally, I think trust is the biggest thing in a relationship. It's not completely his fault for not being aware of what he wants or whatever, but he should be honest about it.

But you are right. Tae Ha's made HUGE mistakes in the past. It's just that it's more forgivable at this point because he has moved on from that point.

I can see a situation where Ha Jin will be better, I just hope the writers take him there. But I just think that RIGHT now he is not being fair to anyone, or even himself.

I too am on Tae Ha's side ultimately though =)

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For the specific purpose of eating homemade bibimbap, we bought large metal bowls and flat metal spoons.

I happily admit to the fact that whenever we watch a kdrama with a bibimbap-eating scene, we pause and go make ourselves some bibimbap in the metal bowls, prop one leg up, and clink eat clink eat clink eat.

Now, if I can only find an outdoor soju and chicken stand to operate next to my driveway, we can also pause for those scenes and rush outside to do that as well.

=D

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samsooki I am so doing this

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skelly, you can get the small stainless steel bowls from a local asian grocery store or online (like amazon), and a decent recipe from allrecipes.com with the understanding that your bibimbap will only be as good as the gochujjang (spicy red pepper sauce) that you use.

i'm actually out of soju at the moment, so I just grab a beer when they drink soju. it's not the same thing, but sympathetic drinking is sympathetic drinking. :D

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looks like everyone will end up with no one *sigh*

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Aww I love love Sol! She has her own drama and is in a triangle. That scene in the cafe with reference to Secret Garden was gold, I squeed a little it's one of my favourite dramas! Well done show.

I really want to like Ha jin more, but he should speak his mind at least to one of the women he is deceiving, he is hurting both his gf and the donseng. I can't wrap my head around the fact that he sets his mothers' ridiculous wish over the other women he loves the most.

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Actually I don't think his mother forbids him to tell Yeo Reum. I think, in fact, in episode 6 his mother told him herself to tell Yeo Reum that he was adopted! The only thing his mother did not want him to do was to tell Ah Rim who he was and to continue seeing her. And yet, he did the exact opposite. That's why I'm so baffled with this Ha Jin character. He does everything that is uncalled for and then avoid doing what he needs to.

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Oh snap you're right his mother did tell him to talk to RY so that they can get married. I feel like he is written this way so that they can get KTH and RY together. KTH is redeeming himself and HJ is slowly turning into an untrustworthy man, I don't like.

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Btw
I was coincidently going through a H&M catalogue when I came across the grey sweat top Yeo Reum was wearing on the trip with KTH. I think it's the exact same one. *-*

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They both did not tell the truth,YR and HJ
that KTH is her ex,that Ar is his mate at the orphan........

Hey I like this show,sometime I feel like they really love each other.Sometime not.

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At times like this, the phrase that the genie says to Aladdin sticks in my head: "tell her the TRUTH!"

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Was that thing with the car breaking to a stop before it hit the barrier / signage a PPL? Best bit of PPL if I ever saw one. Now I want that car.

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Doea anyone know the title of the song when Ah-rim and one of the nuns watching Ha-jin playing with the kids?

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anyone know the song title and singer from discovery of romance ep 8 when nam ha jin making breakfast, I forget the lyric I just remember "you know is always about you..

please help me I'm dying to know the song

thanks

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