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javabeans: Have you noticed that it seems to be getting strangely more difficult to find subtitled dramas these days? I don’t have any numbers or figures to support this, it’s just a feeling I’m getting from reading comments and hearing about people’s difficulties watching things.

girlfriday: Yeah is it an actual problem to find the shows you want to watch these days?

javabeans: We’re not making this up, right? There’s always been some amount of effort required to watch dramas, but lately it seems to be getting worse.

girlfriday: Maybe you guys — our readers — are better equipped to answer, since you’re the ones searching for shows to watch and tearing your hair out over lack of subs (or not), and can tell us we’re just imagining things.

javabeans: We don’t use subtitles so we don’t notice as quickly as our readers might, but I did go on a search the other day and had a really hard time finding shows I expected to be able to find. They were either georestricted (“This video is not available in your region”) or only licensed by one site, which then might also be georestricted.

girlfriday: It’s interesting that there seem to be more sites where you can watch dramas these days, but somehow fewer shows you can actually get access to.

javabeans: I really hope this is not a new trend that will continue because we are, above all else, fans of access. One huge component in Hallyu’s popularity is access! Yes, the dramas are addicting, but also, there was a concerted push to make them available widely. That worked. Why is that not working now?

girlfriday: Maybe it’ll just cycle back to the days of video stores and analogue pirated copies of dramas.

javabeans: Or underground fan operations, requiring memberships and secret passwords. But now that streaming has become the standard form of consumption (…right?), I don’t know how we’d go back to the ye olde ways of bootleg videos, syncing SRT files, softsubs, and all that.

girlfriday: For those of us who started our drama-watching that way, it’s not a big deal, but then it becomes so much harder for new fans — where would they start? How would you get your friends addicted to your favorite show? I can’t go back to the days of burning and mailing DVDs. Though… I will if I have to!

javabeans: Or mailing external hard drives back and forth?

girlfriday: It probably says a lot about us that we always pack a hard drive when visiting each other.

javabeans: Yes, it says that we’re efficient. If access becomes even more restricted, I really believe that Hallyu’s prominence (visibility, popularity, REVENUES) would drop drastically. If you make something really hard for people to find, people will generally not go out of their way to jump through your hoops — they’ll just turn to other content that’s more available. You know, which is how people came to Korean dramas in the first place.

girlfriday: Yes. Why is this a mystery? More access, more fans!

javabeans: It’s a little early to be declaring doom, perhaps, but I do find it a little unsettling. I don’t want this to be the beginning of the end! I like dramas. Even when they’re stupid, I like the idea of dramas and want them to continue to be available and watched and loved.

girlfriday: I would cry if dramas became unavailable to watch. I probably wouldn’t know what to do with myself, frankly.

javabeans: Maybe get a life?

girlfriday: A LIFE WITHOUT DRAMAS?

javabeans: Apparently those exist. I’ve seen them in dramas.

 
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I personally have found it easier I've been able to find everything I want. From going to Hulu and having dramas episode uploaded 2 to 3 days after they've aired with subtitles or dramafever and I have website that pretty much uploads them all. When I first started back in 2006 it was difficult no netflix or Hulu. Even when I was in Afghanistan in 2010 and 2011 late at night I was able to log in and download when the Internet restrictions were less. Of course that's just me I don't know about everyone else. It's harder to find Korean movies if anything those get subtitles much more less.

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"It’s interesting that there seem to be more sites where you can watch dramas these days, but somehow fewer shows you can actually get access to."

This comment is so true. I subscribe to both viki.and df yet none is carrying the show I am enjoying the most now. That sucks. In particular, it seems VIKI is getting lesser licenses to the US region which is so annoying. So why the hell am I paying? I prefer V*** to D* cos they have better subs and also cos of the timed comments.
But if I can't access shows, I will cancel my sub with both in fact.

And don't even get me started on both of them not carrying cable shows. Spent the whole week looking for bad guys

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P.S sorry for jacking your post

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Just imagine the headaches for those of us outside the US and Canada. True, there are VPNs, but from what I've heard, they slow down your internet connection speed, as if it isn't already slow enough.

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I live in Europe and there's an awful lot of content that's not available, but there's ways to bypass restrictions. It's true that many VPNs are slow, but if you test a few you'll easily finde ones that are not.
And there's also quite a few sites that are not restricted and rip subs from DF.
If a show gets subbed, then you can always find it somewhere.

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How about quick, safe and free? Are there that many VPNs that meet all three criteria?

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Thanks a lot though for your help! :)

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Firefox add-on Anonymox works best for me. I hardly notice the slow-down and it works just fine even without buying the full version. Didn't encounter any safety problems either.

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VPNs are amazing, but you have to pay for the really good ones, of course (I know a couple that only cost about 10 a month). I think if you can afford it, it's the best way to go. I would do some research to find the best one for your needs.

I feel so lucky to live in the U.S. so I don't have to worry about this ^^;;

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if not vpn, which am not using... a simple add-on like Hola on Chrome does the trick : you just change your IP's country of origin to the one desired...and voilà !! ;)))

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"In particular, it seems VIKI is getting lesser licenses to the US region which is so annoying."

I have found this to be true lately. I prefer V as well, but the georestricting is happening more and more.An example, it seems that The Three Musketeers allowed certain more active viewers access and then it became restricted. The viewers who were most proficient in English lost access and could not help to sub. I can't blame V as it may have been a restriction from the dramas owners. This is driving me to watch more things on alternate sites even though I don't want to. If they make accessing shows more difficult, some of likely will lost interest. I know i likely will. I wish they did a better job negotiating licenses or the show owners need to understand they are doing themselves an injustice by playing hard to get or pricing themselves too high.

Thanks for bringing this up JB and GF. Perhaps you can be our voice to anyone who may have influence or will listen.

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I find it weird that the more money they invested into Viki, the worse the website got. I hardly go there anymore to watch.

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Yep - I used to love Viki and happily became a paid subscriber with them but since all of those changes, the viki site has only gotten worse and worse. I canceled my subscription once because of so many viewing and access problems, and then gave them another shot, but recently canceled for good because it is just not worth having SO many problems with lagging or stopping or no access even for the paid subscribers. I just had it. They even have a twitter site to post Viki site problems - I think that says it all.
They were bought by Rakuten or some such company. It seems the problems may have started then. I have given up on them and have gone over to DF and no problems with them.

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@ laraffinee,
I am sorry to read that you have had "SO many problems" with viki (to use your own words), yet I am also relieved to know that I am not the only one who has had an unpleasant experience with them. It makes me feel that I was not dreaming all those challenges I experienced with that site.

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i agree w/you - i also hardly go to V anymore, the other day i wanted to watch one of the dramas & it's so frustrating to see 'it's not available in your region' yayy

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Unfortunately, I have had a horrible experience with viki as well, and I have been a paid subscriber, for quite a while now. I do prefer their subs, however I have had all kinds of problems with the site. I have found myself constantly writing to them, and at times, I don't even get a response, like my complaint does not matter. My last complaint (written 2 or 3 weeks ago) has still not gotten an answer.

I once complained about my lack of HD images, though I was a subscriber, and I had to send pictures of dramas for which the quality of the image was not good (and images of scenes in dramas that were actually HD for me). I had to take some tests, to make sure that my computer was not at fault/not the problem and that my internet connection was good. I am not very computer and technology savvy, however I did comply and submit all the evidence that was required of me. I did all that work to be told that they could not help me (bummer). And they did not reply to me right away, I had to wait some weeks to hear from them.

I was considering being a subber for Kdramas, from English to French, now I am reconsidering that thought. It would be hard for me to want to dedicate my time to subbing (though I would like to try it), when I feel that as a subscriber/customer I have not been treated well. Yet every month, without fail, money is deducted from my account for my subscription (I am rethinking that one too).

In the past 2 or 3 months, I have watched dramas on other sites (with a lesser image quality, and sometimes a lesser subbing quality as well), more than I have on viki, which has been extremely disappointing, and I am a very patient person in general. I was one of those who had said in a poll that I would support viki having a paid subscription, if it would help the site. Now, based on my experience, I am wondering if I was not wrong about my assumptions and my expectations.

It has gotten so bad that I am actually now surprised, when I can watch a full ep. on viki, without having that wheel turning thing on the screen every 7 seconds or so, or the ep. crashing and when I refresh the page, I am told that there is an error, and that I should try again later. I have lost count of how many times I have gotten that message. I was such a fan of viki a few years ago. Now, hum...

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It's not only you all of us long time volunteers had the same issue. It's the server not you. It's worse for us as we couldn't sub the episode. Or design or make changes on the cover page. Or write to anyone. For months. It gave us all the shits. I don't know what viki is coming to. The viki app was crashing as well. I am used to doing the server check, screenshot etc but we couldn't get a timely answer as well. Of what the issue was. After like 20 to 50 attempts a day considering some days we have airing dramas- I might be more homicidal towards viki than you.

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Hello ck1Oz,

As I said to laraffinee, I am not rejoicing that you also experienced SOOOOOO many problems with viki, however I feel relieved to know that I was not the only one. The customer service has gotten so bad, I honestly wonder how and why they might think it is OK to run a business in that manner *Shake my head*

I totally understand you about feeling homicidal towards viki, after what you, other people and I have experienced. Do you still volunteer for them? (I was just curious). You could also private message me on viki, I don't know if you remember my name there. I have written to you a few times in the past. Thank you for sharing your experience with us, so sad (and so very disappointing) to read.

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Hmm... I haven't really noticed this issue with Viki (maybe the fact that I am a QC gives me more access?) but I can see how that can be an issue.

At the same time, I feel that as a general rule the subs at Viki are better than those at other websites because more people can contribute. I personally sub on Viki occasionally, which I would never do if I had to join an official team and commit to a project (I work full time and am preparing to go to law school). I prefer quality to quantity, though I realize my position as a native speaker of Korean gives me a privileged perspective on this.

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Hello Caroline,

I am glad for you that you have not experienced the kind of issues I mentioned in my post, because I suspect that you might have given up on the site a while ago, or by now (maybe). As I mentioned in my post, I can be very, very patient, and I would always write to the Help Center when I had an issue.

Thing is though, after a while, one becomes a disgruntled customer, if you find yourself having to complain or ask for help so often, because you can't have access to the HD option (even though you are a paid subscriber), so viki had to do something about it, because I couldn't. And that happened quite a few times. You add to that the other issues I mentioned, and you seriously wonder why you are even putting up with it, when you are actually paying to get a service. They are not doing you (meaning me) any favors, and many of us subscribers are not asking for the moon. We just want access to dramas (when we want to watch them), and HD quality, since we are paying for it.

We also want dramas and episodes we can watch from beginning to end, without the lagging, and other issues laraffinee and I mentioned. Laraffinee even gave viki a 2nd chance, that is how much she wanted it to work. And as for me, I have been delaying my cancelling my subscription as well, and wondering if I would still like to become a subber. I have read that it can be time consuming, etc... and so it would be easier for me to be enthusiastic about that prospect (at this point) if I had had a good experience with viki.

As you said, maybe being a QC had to do with you having a really good experience at viki, and that is great (for you :-) ). I too prefer quality to quantity, and to be honest, I do not watch many dramas a year to start with. I can count on one hand (or maybe two) how many I watch in a year. So for me, when I am watching a drama, I would really like to be immersed in it, and that desire is killed when your effort to watch the drama of your choice leaves you feeling very frustrated.

As I said to laraffinee, I am glad to know that I was not the only who had been very disappointed with my experience with viki. I wish there were someone (or some people) we could contact, who would actually pay attention and care about our complaints.

You being a native speaker of Korean is a quality that you get to enjoy, good for you (and I am not being sarcastic). There are many of us who do not however, and so when we chose to pay for a service on a site that provides subtitles, it would be nice to experience and enjoy what we are paying for.

Caroline, although I did use your expression, I will confess that I did not understand why you said that. Could you please explain why you said you preferred "quality over quantity?" I was just curious about that. Thank you.

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yup.. maybe i'm a QC also so i dont realize all this restricted views/channel.

but still its quite disappointing for me coz they are few shows that i would love to watch and sub but not aired in viki due to license problem

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Ivoire,

Thanks for expanding on your position. While I do not have to endure the unique frustrations that result from trying to watch a show in a language I don't speak, your comments reminded me of a time before Viki, Dramafever, and many of the current streaming sites we have today. It was very frustrating not being able to find dramas I wanted to see or having to wait forever for the episode to load. I sympathize fully with the issues you, as well as many others in the community, deal with.

To clarify my comment on quality over quantity, I meant that I prefer a site with fewer dramas but high quality subs to one where there are many dramas but terrible subs. While I don't need subs, I instinctively read them if they're there and they distract me a LOT when they misinterpret a scene, especially if it's a key one. I've seen some terrible, absolutely terrible subs on Dramafever and other websites when I occasionally use them, but I feel that because Viki is more... open source (?), such errors are less likely when you have a team that can easily go in and fix just one line. There have been times when I got so frustrated by the subs that I fixed them myself, though in recent years that has become more difficult as subs become open only to specific subbing teams on Viki.

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Hello Caroline,

My response is late, however I do hope that you will get to see it. I appreciate your response, and your sympathizing with the struggles we (non Korean speakers) experience, in trying to find and have a good streaming site that would deliver in quality (both of the subtitles, and the HD image) of the dramas we are trying to watch. I am particularly sensitive to this, as I am a linguist myself. I speak four different languages fluently, and Foreign Languages were my major when I was in college.

Thank you also for clarifying your comment on quality over quantity, and I feel the same way you do. When it comes to viki though, I also find sad that not only have some viewers had a negative experience with that site (as of late), but so have some of the managers of the subtitling teams, as I read among the commenters (one of whom directly responded to my comment. She has been volunteering for viki for many years, as I have seen her name on Dramabeans and on viki for a few years at least).

I do think that quality subs are a must, especially if you have viewers who are willing to pay for such a service. I would have to also add that I had noticed a few times that either the comments were not well segmented on viki, or the subtitles were not complete. There would be words I would recognize, that I did not see subtitled, and at times, the characters spoke for a long time, however the subtitles were not as long.

I used to think that the quality of the subtitles on viki were top notch, and now, even though I think they might be a little more detailed than the subs on DF, I am not sure that they are as good as they might have once been (just my impression, I could be wrong).

I also find it disappointing that it has become harder to fix subtitling mistakes on viki in recent years (as you mentioned), though I would imagine it became so, to restrict or avoid a big number of people being able to just change some of the subtitles (not everyone might be as good as you are, regarding the Korean language). What I really find sad, is that once again, the viewer is the one who loses out in the end, when it comes to quality subs. Kdramas have been one of the ways I have (slowly) been learning the Korean language (in which I am very interested).

So, when I am given inaccurate subs or not given subs at all (especially, as you pointed out for important scenes), I am losing out on some words or expressions I could have learned, yet, I am paying for that service. I really deplore how poorly the customer service has been at viki. I really wish they would truly care more about their customers.

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Caroline, part II of my response:

I would add that I watched an Indian movie on viki once, and the segmentation of the subtitles was horrible. So, the problems are not only with the Korean shows, they seem to extend to other languages as well. That makes me feel like viki does not care about the quality of their site, as they proclaim they do, or at least as we are let to believe. Again, I am speaking based on my personal experience. When will we, the viewers be taken (truly) seriously? That is what I would (really) like to know.

Thank you for your time, Caroline, and for this conversation. All my best to you, getting into law school and doing well once you are in. Caroline, Fighting!!! :-)

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Very late to the party but...
This entire Odds and Ends Post is so timely, bc I found myself wondering about this very subject A LOT lately. It seems that V doesn't get as many series anymore. For my region, they keep promoting and pushing us to watch Indian dramas. Nothing wrong with that, but not my interest right now. They use to get so many dramas and now it's only a few.

I loved V because of their speedy, accurate subs. That is my biggest problem with DF. Their subs suck!!!! They just paraphrase long sentences into a few short lines, when you KNOW that's not what the character said. They fail to use terms like Oppa or Unni by just inserting the characters' name instead (it's frustrating). They try to use the most horrible versions of American slang too, like "Hey dude!" or something equally as corny, instead of using the korean terms ("Daebak!" "Heol!") etc. They Americanize the subs a little too much. I've tested their accuracy by comparing their subs to other sites and they're context is so off the mark sometimes. It changes the point of the scene altogether.

I've always been in DSS (I wish they could finish Childless Comfort...PLeeeeeeeeease!) and a few new ones tend to pop up every now and again. Like everyone else said, the quality of their vids are the problem and they steal subs from other sites.

I blame this whole think on DF, really. Once they got into the game of being a paid - licensed site, they started shutting down the independent fan-based sites that subbed as a labor of love. I hate it!!!!

Thanks for some of the other suggestions on this post about where to look.

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Random but have you found a subbed bad guys yet? I've only found a raw version & my korean isn't that good.

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Episode 1 is up on gooddrama.net
They often, but not always, have dramas that hulu, viki, dramafever don't have. The subs aren't always as good though. Anyways hope this helps.

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Go to DarkSmurfSub.com for good quality fan-subbed Bad Guys.
Excellent subs.

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Yes Darksmurf subs are fine but they are way way behind the actual drama that's airing.

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I found Bad Guys on mysoju. It is annoying that Dramafever doesn't get the cable channel programs.

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I don't know how you'd call them, but the nighttime, weeknight, 2-ep dramas, they seem to get covered pretty thoroughly for the major networks - less so for cable.

We were pretty surprised to see that NO ONE was carrying OCN's Bad Guys, and then it popped up after a few days at DSS. We actually got involved in helping edit the translated lines just to keep it moving! Which was fun, and felt good to help - but I really don't need to add yet ANOTHER activity to my list. I devote hours as it is to KDrama and related subjects.

Dailies and long weekend dramas seem to have less availability as subbed programs, and aren't as fast as the others when they are subbed. I don't watch many of those but I think that's what I hear.

There's a LOT more 'you can only watch it here' going on, and that started with those D-whatever notices.

Whatever it is, it goes back to the people who own the dramas and sell the rights: if they can get more money by giving exclusive access to one outlet than they can get for selling it to several, then that's what they're going to do. That is the bottom line for them.

I have a lot of friends who torrent; it's not something I want to get into. If availability of shows dries up then eventually, sadly, I will probably change from being immersed in the community of watchers to being an occasional participant.

By the way...all the streaming sites carrying subbed Episode 1 of Bad Guys now? They took those subs from an early version of the still not yet fully translated set at DSS. So if you think the subs are terrible, complain to the sites about their behavior - and if you have an account at DSS, go watch it there. They're much better there as more work has been done.

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Oh, I am glad that DSS got Bad Guys. They also got Yoona's Street so they are a savior.

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can you please give me a direct link to Bad Guys episodes that are subbed? I tried dss but it couldnt be found for some reason. It looks like an amazing drama and I really want to watch it. Can you give me a link?

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I don't think they list it until it's complete. But on the main page if you just scroll down, you will see it.

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One thing i found out about DSS - u need to have created an account to see the Beta version of the site that would then show the Cable drama option. If u do not sign in to account - only the Free to Air Drama option shows on their site. Found this out by accident really when on my tablet (which is signed into my accouhnt) - i was able to watch Yoona's Street but could not for the live of me get the Cable option on my desktop. After some observation (i am an IT person) - i saw the difference.

Hope this helps.

Marathoned Yoona's Street once i saw the DSS had them sub - it is a very good series.

Caught Bad Guys there this weekend. Will be watching!

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Try dramacool.com. They are pretty good about uploading raw videos and then later adding the subs which they get from other sites such as DF, DSS, etc. Admittedly, sometimes the subs are less than par. Also, you don't have to sign in with an account like DSS. The first episode is subbed which I'm assuming is courtesy of DSS.

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MYASIANTV has all those dramas sub the same day for free without ads...

It's one of the best websites.

I stop my subscription with dramafever when I saw that I could watch the same dramas at myasiantv the same day subbed and ad free while I had to wait 1 or 2 days with dramafever as a paying member.

It was a no brainer for me.

They carry korean, japanese, hong kong, taiwanese dramas and movies.

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Not true, actually. They do no subbing of their own, from what I understand, so they only have subbed episodes when someone else does.

For example, the subs they have for Bad Guy? Lifted from DSS, as I mentioned earlier.

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My problem is that everything seems to be "Spanish Subbed" these days-especially on YT! It pisses me off. I don't know where all my "ENG SUB"bers went, but I wish they'd come back!! I'm pretty tired of looking for a music video or drama and finding it only with Spanish subs!

Anyone else having that problem, too?

I'm glad K-entertainment is being globalized now, but I miss my Eng Subs!

Also, can anyone tell me how Darsmurf works? I for the life of me do not know how to work it.

Thanks!

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Re: Span Subs

I think this has more to do with the larger corps being more vigilant in taking down streaming sites and uploaded YT videos now.

And of course their first targets would be english subbed ones because they're easier to track and have a larger audience, thus, a larger "theoretical" drain on the original copyright holder's profits.

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It was the same with Yoona's Street, they would get their subs from DSS as well.

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Yup. I'll be honest that it kind of annoys me that myasiantv and dramacool say that they get their subbed episodes out before anywhere else, and people talk about the excellent speed of their subbing, when those sites take all their subs from other sites. I mean, there are plenty of shows on myasiantv that were originally subbed for Viki and the subs say so, so obviously DC and MAT aren't the first, the site that did the subbing is the first.

I'll say that I only started feeling this way now that I've become part of a subbing team and have come to understand how the process works. There's a lot of time and effort involved, and it can be frustrating when sites appropriate that without credit and than claim that "their" subs are first and fastest.

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Dramacool deleted my comment and blocked me when I mentioned that the subs in one show were incomplete and identical to Viki's subs. It really upset me that they blocked me from making comments.

Lately I've been alternating between Viki and kdrama (now Soompi TV) because Viki has been having a lot of technical problems and their subs tend to get delayed. But the new ipad update for Soompi TV tends to get stuck in the commercials. Since I already pay for Viki I don't want to pay for Soompi too, so I just watch commercials. But Soompi is getting stuck and I'm getting frustrated with Viki and Soompi. So Dramacool keeps calling my name, but I hate them so I can't seem to find a solution. I also hate the idea of supporting a site that is basically stealing from others.

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Hi Frustrated with Span Subs,

This is an explanation StarlaBlaise gave in another post:

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You go to the drama’s page. Click on “01” link in the english subs section. DSS Translated column means translation by dictionaries (like Goggle translate). After or during dictionary translation fans edit this. And it shows in FANS
Edited column. So, you go to this “01” link and download drama. There’s option by sourse (DTV or IPOP or any other). :)
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If you haven't already, you need to create an account.

I found the site confusing too. I'm still learning the ropes. If I can think of any tips I'll let you know.

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what's dss?

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DarkSmurf Subs

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darksmurfsub

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On daily and weekend dramas: Thank God for KBS World. Haha.

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Yes, thank goodness for KBS World, though it seems to me that the subtitling is often loose or short. I don't speak Korean, however, I find it suspicious when the characters talk for a long time, and I only get a few words (in English, regarding what they said). It would be nice to get more detailed subtitles, imho.

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I might be wrong but when it did a search of Bad Guys on DF, it looked like they would pick up Bad Guys at some point.

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Don't believe it. Dramafever puts stubs up for all sorts of shows that they have no intention of covering. They have had an entry for Queen In-Hyun's Man for going on three years, with no show yet to appear.

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They have a similar thing listed for "Queen In Hyun's Man ". I thought it meant that they would eventually carry that drama. I have been waiting for over two years but haven't watched that drama on DF.

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Yeah, sometimes it can be hard finding subtitles and you want to cry. I feel a certain sense of dread when this happens with a show I really want to watch (it's especially damning for, like, Taiwanese or Hong Kong dramas). Even the popular subtitles sites seems to only try to pick up what's going to be/has the potential to be popular? I guess they browse around and try to see what people are talking about most? So, sometimes they don't have a thing. Sometimes they get competitive and get rights to a drama *~EXCLUSIVELY~* which I think is silly and leaves out a huge junk of audience. It can be hard.

Yoona's Street didn't have subs for a while, I think, but now it's on track right? And I know everyone is tryna search up subs for Bad Guy right now which I'm surprised hasn't gotten picked up because Park Hae Jin is in it and I am of the opinion that he's quite popular now. Was I wrong? Lol, I guess you have to bombard your favorite site with recommendations sometimes.

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I need to sleep, there are so many grammatical mistakes in this. Like, **chunk not junk, lmaoooo.

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Yu Na's street is a few episodes behind now; the subbing team is basically just two people these days, and each episode takes a long time because it's such a talk-y show!

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So tell me why I was just looking to watch the new episode of Jang bori and I can't get it anywhere all the sites I know are acting stupid ...... Its is seeming more and more difficult to find sites that u can watch same day episodes as they air ...... The sites I found to be the best where dramacool and viki. Those our the best ones. Same day delivery and nice quality

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Quality is lower, but I found Dramafire to be great!

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Try having been part of a subbing team, only to lose complete access to the dramas you've worked on AFTER the drama has begun.

I'm in agreement with Javabeans & Girlfriday that this is not a move forward for Korean drama producers. I'm inclined to think they'll regret this new trend later.

Or at least I hope they do. Yes, I am bitter.

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Yeah, I can think of at least a couple of times where suddenly a drama was yanked from Viki - either completely, or put on hold so that it would air episodes a certain amount of days later than the original.

I am sure it's a licensing thing but all that screwing around is silly, and I am pretty certain it's not our viewing sites doing the screwing!

We've become accustomed to same-day or next-day fully translated shows. That should continue. The sites I use that offer a subscription service, I buy it. And I generally watch there too; the free places are fine but I hate how things get chopped up into parts and I don't want to have to remember which of 15 sites I'm watching a show at. Anyway, the point is - I'd pay a bit more to keep it the way it has been/improve access to more shows.

I think there's enough of us watching around the world that we should be considered SOMEWHAT, at least.

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Hi dear, * pat, pat *. Yeah it sucks.

You know what pisses me off more? That the site that has the money to buy the right to the show- sucks big time for their subbing. Big time. If you throw the money to the company for subbing rights but turns up shit subs? It just peeves me off as a non Korean viewer.

Namely Spring Day subbing which seriously sucks. I know what you mean re " M". It's still getting done but slower.

The thing is right... I am happy doing legal stuff and helping in a legal site in order to watch my Kdrama. But when another legal sites " shoves elbows and knuckles " over the competition but produces inferior goods- that's when I say it's trying to monopolize the market. They are ruthless businesses and it doesn't help the average Kdrama fan.

And oh... another thing- I cannot even watch a drama from a streaming site ( if they are having the subs) because the sole person on the Internet getting the subs doesn't have the time to get it from both V, D and C. So they most of the time get it from the easiest source. Who doesn't actually produce consistently good translations or makes up stuff on the go.

There is one drama I am watching now which as so many expletives per episode. Because the subber obviously has a limited vocabulary. The character is not even saying those words- it's appearing on screen. Do they even know the common Korean exclamations? I do not want to hear " J Christ and G " every episode. Ergh.

So yeah access is restricted. Then when you have access or rather can find the show- then you can't find good subs.

Money money money. The 2 big guys currently paying the big bucks are the ones responsible for all this. I lay it soley on one company trying to monopolize the whole K drama whole namely the US according to them.

Pity we can't name names. And yes GF and DB, access is more difficult, I cannot watch any streaming shows because of the numerous ads and I've resorted to other methods.

See you all from jail one day at the rate we are going.

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See you all from jail one day at the rate we are going.

LOL. I miss you.

Yeah, I'm watching it legally but not necessarily getting every little nuance for some of the sageuk terms and/or very technical professional terms. Which sort of dampens the impact since those nuances are the DUN DUN that the viewers are supposed to hang onto for suspense.

And I am turning away a bit from Korean drama as a result. Life is already hectic, so other than the one drama that I find myself dedicated to every once in a while now, I want entertainment that's a bit easier to access (literally in terms of access as well as figuratively in terms of language). I've been more productive in my real life, which is a good thing. I've also been turning to my Amazon Prime membership, catching up on my list of to-watch films and TV shows, OR reading my backlog of novels.

The reality is, in the 21st century, there's more than enough that people can find easily to occupy themselves. K-Drama, by making access harder, will lose out to those alternatives.

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Turning away? Yeah like me. I am reading more ebooks as well.

Come hang out with me in Jan for Hyde, Jekyll, Me.

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But it was written by the Cheongdamdong Alice writer... :(
I'll go check your pipeline because I do want to hang out with you.

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agree agree agree... and it's greed greed greed...

will not resort to a socio-political indignation here but you are so right.. money is the nerve of the war as we say in French... and they are not even descent enought to provide the best product possible

am still resorting to the old old ways like a dinosaur and filling up my external harddrive the best I can with .ass and .srt

for posterity ;)

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Hi anais! Have you been well?

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Hi Arishia, yes, busy with work but well. I'll touch base via Viki. :)

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Hmm, interesting. I've honestly never found it an issue to find what I want to watch. It probably has a lot to do with the fact that I'm in North America. And also, I prefer network dramas - with a bit of TvN - I usually go for mainstream which is mostly subbed in either Viki, Soompi or DramaFever. Oh and if it ever were unable in my region, I just use Hola because its a solution to all regional problems =P

But I can totally see what you guys mean. At the end of the day, if it isn't available, I'd move on to something else myself. A new drama fan would particularly not have the patience to look for something they aren't so interested in seeing anyway. Back when GOF and NOF were airing, I think the comments section here were always filled with questions on how to access subs. I think if those two were subbed the way RM or 1N2D are, it would be a lot more huge and popular overseas like it was in Korea.

Since productions earn a lot of loot from international fans, I hope they can make an effort to make it easier for fans. If Hallyu dies down, it will affect them a whole lot more than the viewers...

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Yes, it´s SO MUCH better here in the US. I am originally from germany and there you can´t use dramafever, hulu and so on - and viki has only a handful of shows I could watch from germany (and on all those free sites I get so upset by the tone some users use when they are demanding their video to be uploaded and subbed right now for no money, that it usually puts me off and I don´t want to watch that drama there). I find it especially hard to find variety shows or really anything from cable networks that I want to watch.
And I totally agree with you and javanbeans & girlfriday - it might seem like a smart move for the people behind those networks that produce dramas and such at the moment, but in the long run people from outside korea will probably just move on. To dramas/shows/really any entertainment from other countries that fulfill the same kind of "weird/foreign/different" factor that draws a lot of people to korean dramas at first (and then of course you get stuck because they are addictive). It´s absolutely the same with K-Pop. The accessability is a JOKE in germany. And that really can´t be good for getting people to buy your stuff.

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Just a heads up about Hola...Viki won't let you use any form of VPN to get around things...I've tried. I am actually live in SK now, but my Korean isn't good enough to pick up episodes on Naver (where Koreans catch stuff streamed) and I don't have a TV here. Some other drama sites I have had success with using Hola...but yeah...it makes it really hard to want to watch drama when you have to jump through a million hoops.

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Not true. I was in Korea recently, and successfully used VPN Cyberghost from my hotel room to access American Viki.

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I was finally about to get the VPN to work (after trying off and on for about a month). I had to do some tweaking and cookie deletion. Believe me, I tried a bunch of times and I only got it to work after I had posted here. I was just coming back today to say that I got it to work. Sorry if I offended you.

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I think I can relate to the fact that it's harder finding subbed videos recently. I have been studying Korean so I have no problems with watching unsubbed dramas since I have a reliable source to get them. But trouble comes when I want to share the drama experience with my mom and some of my friends because then I would have to find one that is subbed. For now Dramafever and Viki are the fast ones to get access to but recently some shows are not licensed. I started watching dramas with the help of subbing teams releasing .srt subs but these days I don't know if there are still teams doing so aside from DSS, WITHS2 was the reliable source for my .srt back in the days. On the brighter side, KBS World has been uploading past dramas they have such as My Daughter Seo-young, but after I watched it with not so good video resolution. They release subbed videos 2 weeks after it aired in Korea and Mnet also provides subs for some variety shows like Mix and Match but the fan subs are faster.
I do hope there will be more access in the future for more content since fans who love K-dramas are growing.

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WITHs2 has RIP dear.

You don't want to know what I found out when I discovered all the " original " source subs from those " streaming sites " who purport to sub their own show- is from one of the 2 companies producing inferior subs.

Contact me at you know where and I will give you the whole story.

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when i saw this article, i can't more
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What's you called georestricted that's happening in my country

Hufttt...hope this can't be worse, cause already in critical stage, and it's really upsetting

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Living in Australia its a pain in the buttocks to try and watch streaming K-drama. Every legal site is "This video is not available in your region" for the new shows. J-drama is a bit easier as I watch some of them on crunchyroll but I've been doing the same as I have done for the past 10+ years. Download torrent files, download softsubs and if its a kdrama i'm going to watch a billion times i'll end up buying the box-set.

I have a question though for dramabeans though~ Do kdrama's get released in Blu-ray quality box-sets? Because I haven't been buying the ones I really want in hopes that it will be released in blu-ray :( I know movies are being released in BR as I have a ton of kmovies but it would be so nice if I could watch my favourite kdrama in sparkly high definition with all the pores & imperfections visible. You can buy japanese release kdrama in BR but w.o english subs & the prices range from $150-$300+ X[

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I feel your pain! I live in New Zealand, which means that I have no acces to the most popular streaming sites like Netflix and Viki. It really sucks :(

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I get my Kdrama fix from http://www.gooddrama.net/

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HAve you tried looking at yesasia? They might carry drama boxsets in blue ray though I haven't checked. It's the only place I know of really though :p

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Kdramas are easier to find (but not as easy as before). Ever since viki stopped allowing japanese dramas though I've pretty much been unable to find any of those (except for the most popular ones)

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They don't show them at all anymore? I wonder why. There's usually 2 or 3 a year at least that I really like - I'm sure there are plenty more I'd like but never hear about!

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When I first started on viki, there were quite a few fan channels. They just stopped suddenly, which means that not as many shows are subbed at all :(

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I have noticed that since September, subbing has slowed down significantly on Viki. Maybe because subbers are back in school? If that is the case, patience is called for since school should be more important :)

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I did mean just for J-dramas. I'm a QC on viki and I know I haven't contributed because of exams though, so that's entirely possible.

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I'm not sure if you mean for Jdorama specifically, but subbing has slowed down for some of the Korean shows because of region restrictions. Fewer subbers are having to shoulder more dramas, so certain shows are being subbed at a far slower rate than we've become used to.

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Viki was bought by a major japanese company a while back.. and it began many of the changes... some am sure were done to counteract the other paying site at the time from the US (you all know who am refering to, the one with subpar subs and who've actually taken subs initially from With2 at their beginning)

but in revamping the site, many problems mentioned above also came upon... the market is moving fast, new players are added and changing the rules

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K-dramas are relatively easy except for the occasional cable drama or just non BIG3 drama. Finding Taiwanese or Hong Kong dramas can be very difficult, though. Sometimes they aren't subbed at all. Sometimes they are but only half-way, sometimes they are completed but all the videos are gone. Japan is a bit hard because they aren't as into sharing as Korea is, I think. When it comes to licensing something out it seems like they're not really into that which makes things difficult over here sometimes and you really have to dig.

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Mandarin language shows are hard to find subs for, yes! And I've noticed that even the episodes that get subbed have a lot of missing subtitles. I'm told it's because mandarin is harder to subtitle, but there's also less interest I suppose.

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Yeah, I think there is less interest as well. Especially with some of the recent ones. )':

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Isn't it ironic that after Viki got bought last year by Rakuten (Japan's largest e-commerce company), Viki's licenses for Japanese dramas dropped to zero.

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Aha, that actually explains the crackdown on fan channels though.

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But I've heard that if you have color pass, you have access to j-dramas and movies.

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Ugh, viki pass, stupid autocorrect.

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A few dramas and movies, but nothing recent or ongoing and not even the more popular ones really.

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The Viki pass allows access only to Viki's existing miniscule library of licensed j-dramas and movies which are old and not very popular. There are basically no current shows or movies and none of the older popular shows and movies. Viki does have a full hidden library of these fully subbed older shows and movies, but for whatever reason cannot get a license to exhibit them.

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Thats why DB is like my shining drama light of awesome.

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I know this probably applies to few people who watch/comment on this blog, but I have to say that I'm glad I can read Chinese. I watch mostly on Dramafever, but whatever Dramafever doesn't have, one of the Chinese websites will. They are same-day fast, too, way way faster than Dramafever for sure. The main problem here is keeping up with which websites to access. At first I used tudou. Then I used youku. Then 56. Then pptv. And now it looks like it's time to look for another site.

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read, I mean read this blog. And for why I have to keep moving, it's usually a region access issue.

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Yeah I do the chinese subs too. I use maplestage

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Even more problematic than finding subs are finding reliable live streaming sites!!!!

I am one of those with the geographical problem but thankfully am Chinese, so I can deal with Chinese subs. I've pretty much given up Eng subs - never available, too slow. Except dramacool if my Chinese website/app doesn't work.

Maplestage is very good and fast, usually available for major shows. Pptv, Tudou etc all have the same problem for me as the end subs - wrong region! If you use your phone or Mac (or android) I use qianxun (千尋) app - it will gather all the dramas from diff sites and then allow you to play it.

Another option is one of those qvod sites requiring an program download to watch, but subs up within 3-4 hours of finishing the show

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I am in the same lucky boat. I much prefer Chinese subs too, somehow even the best English subs seems to lose something in translation. Korean borrows so many Chinese words that its much easier for Chinese subs to get the point across, especially for sagueks.

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@ Ladyluck,

That would make absolute sense. Perhaps I should learn Chinese.

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Chinese subs are an option for me, but a distant second choice, since I read Chinese at a much slower speed. -.- I end up having to rewind and pause whenever there's too much speech going on.

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If all else fails I turn to natnatvip. Although the quality of their videos leave much to be desired. And the videos are split into bits too. I find tudou and youku too slow, and now they started to do the georestricting thing too. Same problems apply to the Chinese apps I've been using to stream - some shows get yanked halfway cos of licensing and I'll find that only ONE app carries the subbed drama and it may not come out as fast. Sigh. I'm thinking about investing in a VPN app...

Restricted access to dramas really suck. If it's restricted, I just...won't end up watching it. Do they really know what that means for the future of kdramas?!

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I too can read Chinese so I get access to much faster releases and a wider range of dramas than if I were just restricted to searching for english subs. I use kuaishou (快手) to get my drama and variety fix. But it's only available on android platforms (I only know how to navigate those, have not found the right version to work on a pc) so I guess it's restrictive in another way. But it has almost everything! Except the second season of Grandpas over Flowers. :(

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Wait till Chinese government cracks down on all these pirated Chinese sites after making deals with Korean production companies. It will happen.

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Kim Soo Hyun spent a couple weeks in China after YFAS. I read on an English site (maybe it was Soompi) that he made USD18 mill from all the CFs there. I was astounded by that amount. China is no longer as poor as it once was. And Not bad for a few days work for KSH.
On the same post, I also read that Tudou paid more for each ep than for any other K drama. I don't remember the exact amount now, but remember being surprised by the fact that Tudou paid so much, as it's only an internet site.
I gather that Chinese sites owned by companies that are publicly listed pay for licences. These are the major sites that ppl are naming here: tudou, soku, etc.

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OK, just read that Tudou is paying USD200,000 per ep for My Lovely Girl, becos of Rain. If they are paying this kind of money, I suppose they'll be around and it is good news for those who can use them.

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I don't know what the deal is but there are just some shows (dramas and otherwise [(old)YOUTHS OVER FLOWERS, I'M LOOKING AT YOU] that seemingly inexplicably get ignored by the subbing gods. Or just don't get licensed, despite their best efforts. And then what do you do? Learn Korean? Watch with no subs and just hope you can be happy with minimal understanding of what's on screen? Stop watching dramas?!

I really hope things don't get worse! I've enjoyed my 7 years of easy access and would hate to lose that. I don't even mind paying to subscribe to websites like Viki and Dramafever. As long as I get my fix.

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Youth Over Flowers Laos is being subbed by yeoniverse and banasubbers , they have released 3 episodes already ( ep 7, 8 and 9 )
Meanwhile , and thanks to the darn silence of Hulu about the show , fans of Youth Over Flowers Peru are currently working on subs for the first 6 episodes .... it'll take a while since it's the first project for MeToo Sub Team(they usually only translate small vids ) but hopefully they'll finish it without problems .... since they don't have kor - eng subbers they're translating from chinese to english

So if there's a kor-eng or chi-eng subber who wants to help to make the process shorter ... we'll be seriously thankful ( indierocknina@gmail.com for volunteers XD )

#ninjaout

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Someone shared this link under one of the Youth of Flowers recap... they give you subs of the episodes with Chilbongie in it...
http://ggotbodachungchoon.wordpress.com./..
I found it very helpful, waiting for ep 10 subs...

I'd really like to watch the Law of the jungle series... I get to see some parts when a certain fanbase subs the episodes with their idols in it, but I wish someone would take the time or put in the effort to sub the complete series... :(

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that site is like a gift to me. are you that one that posted that link here the other day? thanks a bunch!

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The country I live in has a habit of actually being physically omitted from infographics maps of the world, which might be why the only way I can watch any of the streaming sites is through a proxy that lets me pretend I'm in the US.

The exception is DSS. LikeJoAnn, I've been helping out there on Yoona's Street and Reset. AFAIK only DSS is subbing those shows, other sites I've seen offering these two have been using DSS subs. I'm very happy that DSS lets me watch w/o a proxy and to help out in return by editing the subs when I have the time.

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I have difficulties to find old dramas, say, older than 2009, because I'm the one who wouldn't stream drama but download and store it in my HDD so I have to find the download link. Sometimes Youtube can help sometimes not.

For about a year now, I download drama from my local forum and it have really huge database of dramas, variety shows, movies, etc. When I can't find there I would download the torrents at d-addicts or searching on YT. I don't watch through Viki, DF, or Hulu, the internet connection here is slow, I would pull my hair out. If I really like a drama, I maybe will watch live-streaming. Oh and now there's kdrama.com, soompi TV on soompi, gooddrama.net, dramafire, dramacool, etc. But I don't like if kdrama have many parts, so I still prefer to download whole ep without getting cut in parts.

I also rely on subtitles, but I can make subtitles now, even hardsub it, but it's just for fun. I don't have time to join DSS or Viki subbing team because they sub at midnight my time so it's impossible. For weekdays dramas, esp with big stars/idols subs usually out less than 12 hours. For weekend/cable it could be longer, but I rarely watch weekend.

Sometimes I also "find the video is not available in your region" when I access SBS acc on YT and it's so frustrating since they usually post BTS or interviews with stars.

Because I watch and download many dramas, my friends turn to me to copy the files. Sharing is fun, because I get to know my friends preference although our preferences sometimes not matching. I also copy the files from my friends if they have dramas/shows I want to watch.

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I live in North America as well, but it seems that no new show on Viki seems to be available in my region. I have noticed that fewer shows are being readily subbed. Luckily for me, the shows I've really wanted to see have ended up being subbed somewhere, but I do wonder if this is the beginning of a new trend.

Does anyone know, for example, if Tomorrow's Cantabile is being subbed anywhere? I will keep checking the sites I normally go to; hopefully, one of them will sub it. I only wish that I could watch each episode shortly after it airs so that I could participate in the various discussion threads. If I have to wait a while to watch an episode, such participation will not be possible.

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Don't worry, I'm sure Cantabile will be everywhere–unless someone tries to nab it for an exclusive–because a lot of people will want to be watching it.

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Tomorrow Cantabile is streaming exclusive on dramafever :( Kinda annoyed by that bc they commercials every 10 minutes or so and not even ad blockers can plow through them. I don't have money to pay either, so usually i just go to Viki or Kdrama.com bc adblocker gets through them lol.

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i was wondering about adblocker, whether it works on viki -- dangit, i pay for the vikipass... did notice it blows out the kdrama/now soompi ads. good to know about dfever and adblocker not working there... i kept my subscription for one more year, because i don't want to lose the 'first-year' rate....

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If you have a phone or a tablet and can get the DramaFever app, they only show two commercials at the beginning and again at the end of an episode. None in between. (Unless things have changed in the few months since I bought Premium.)

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DramaFever got TC as an "exclusive" a la "Heirs." So it seems that will be the only place where it will be available at first.

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Might end up on Hulu then too... I've noticed that DF content seems to end up there.

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From DramaFever:

DramaFever co-produces Tomorrow's Cantabile with KBS
http://www.dramafever.com/news/dramafever-co-produces-tomorrows-cantabile-with-kbs/

So now they are actually "producers"?

Also...


DramaFever also partnered with the Almond Board of California for this series, which means that almonds will appear in the first 15 episodes of the show. Becky Sereno, Manager of South Korean Marketing for the Almond Board of California, explained, "The popularity of these dramas not only in Korea but the rest of Asia, Europe, Latin America and North America is amazing. These series are incredibly successful at entertaining the global audiences that we aim to reach. Working with DramaFever provides the opportunity to position the benefits of almonds to audiences around the world through high quality storytelling on a premium, digital platform."

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The licensed sites, partnering up with Hulu and Youtube, to show some of the dramas is another way to generate profit.

Only Youtube has KBSWorld, which shows the drama specials, with English subs that seem fairly good. I really appreciate being able to watch the drama specials, which aren't usually subbed by any of the licensed sites.

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dmohican14 and AuntieMame... I had a hard time stopping laughing, too. What a hoot!

I used to live in Calif and the Almond Board is a big deal. Goes to show just how widespread the reach of the K-Wave is!

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"I really appreciate being able to watch the drama specials, which aren’t usually subbed by any of the licensed sites."

@AuntieMame... agree with you about these drama specials. Some are really great to watch. The writers are very clever delivering a story and developing characters all within the short time frame (normally one hour, though on occasions spanning 2 or 4 episodes).

And with a busy life, they feed the drama fix nicely. But sometimes, oh those subs, LOL! You get some great laughs. The distribution company's translations can certainly be... 'interesting'!

So, those two reason brought songbird & I back into subbing... Call us crazy, gluttons for punishment, etc. but at least we're not up till 3am finishing one episode only then to start onto the next! Oh those heady days of torrenting and fansubbing!!

Do I miss them? Well maybe... a little.. every now & then. ssshhh, just don't tell anyone, lol.

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Just great! I'm not sure that I want to create a DramaFever account. I never was a fan of that site.

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Hahahaha . . . California Almond Board.

It had always puzzled me why Eun Sang brought almonds back to Korea, as a present for her mom. It was 'product placement'! LOL

And, also, they filmed in an almond orchard.

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I just watched the 1st episode of Cantabile. Did anyone catch the almond appearance? I sure didn't. Of course I don't want to be playing "Where's Waldo" while watching a drama, but I was curious so tried to pay attention. Anyone see it?

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DF is one of the big reasons it's harder to find subs. About 2 years ago they went on a rampage trying to pull content from everyone who had any competition with them. Remember the stick figure drawings here on DB for that terrible drama that shall not be named? (7th Level Civil Servant - haha) The same thing happened on DarkSmurfs and that site was only subbing. They had to divide cable shows from the major network shows and make access more "underground" to keep from getting takedown notices. Ridiculous stuff like that is what has made it so hard in the last year to find places to watch.

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which shows it never ends... their cash cow might actually kill the whole thing..,.

they first started by stealing subs from others.. then crack down on anything and everything under the sun with their lawsuit or threats...

Now they are cashing in big bucks for crappy subs, still killing others in the process...

Producers now ? OMO can only imagine... for one, their First Award Gala was such a sham and shame of selfpromoting, all the awards went to their own Heirs... nothing much else... VIP tickets selling 1grand to attend...

again greedy capitalism for only a few elite in the end while artistry and creativity is only viewed with how much $$$ it's generating

no .. you are not guessing.. am not fond of them

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oups 1 hundred not 1 grand ;))

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@ Jay

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Psst: if you get a browser extension like Hola, it will get around the region restriction on Viki (it's how I've been watching Three Musketeers, not to mention Doctor Who). Unfortunately they have a looooot of ads.

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THANKS for the tip!

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Yes, viki has so many ads! Are there any cons to getting a browser extension? Does it affect some of the capabilities/features of your default browser?

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adblock works well for me on viki!

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adblock worked even on hulu!!

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Sometimes, but I have Chrome and it's pretty easy to go in and toggle it back in the browser bar.

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Peridot - I'm in North America (US, actually) and you should be able to watch on DF without paying. I was able to access Tomorrow's Cantabile and, believe me, I would never pay for DF. Sometimes depending on the popularity of the show, DF will limit access to non-payers by having them wait 2-3 days after the subbed episodes come available but so far it seems DF is not placing any restrictions.

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Dwindling availability is exactly what some of us had predicted, with the advent of the licensed sites.

While the licensed sites are great for no longer having to watch 'underground', it also meant that only select dramas would be available. And, those dramas are the ones that can bring in big money, for the 'bottom line'. Not necessarily the well-executed or well-written dramas, but ones based on popularity of the cast.

Fan-subbing didn't have to be mindful of the 'bottom line' and could be more selective about quality.

I've kept my hard-drives, in anticipation of the day when we sort to fan-subbing again. I'm ready to edit again, WithS2.

There's an ironic adjunct to all of this. Fan-subbing started as a result of the lousy subs provided by the content owners. Well, we're right back to where we started, with the lousy subs provided by a couple of the streaming sites. Talk about sins of omission and commission. LOL

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RIGHT?! I remember when I first started watching Coffee Prince on DF 2 years ago. I who knew only 4 words of Korean at the time could still tell that the subs were translating wrong. Unfortunately DF hasn't gotten much better.

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Oh how I wish WithS2 is still alive and kicking to sub newer dramas. My Korean is super mediocre, just basically a gist of years of listening to Korean songs and watching dramas, but even I would get frustrated when I know that the subs are too simplified or didn't translate properly. :(

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@ AuntieMame - "sins of omission and comissions"

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Auntie Mame! I'm just soooo happy to "see" you here! Hello! I'm also freaking out about the downward spiral it seems kdramas, subs and sites are taking.

I'm also missing some of my favorite bloggers, like You-Know-Who. I feel like a Woman Scorned, Waiting for the promised blog that never arrives. (sigh)

For the time being, I'm learning Korean and checking DSS for subs for Childless Comfort, Yoo-Na's Street and crossing my fingers for Queen Insoo.

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