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Liar Game: Episode 9

A hero without confidence is a scary, scary thing, especially when he’s the only one even remotely capable of stopping a villain that’s as deviously bent on spreading anarchy and chaos as Kang Do-young. At least our heroine does an admirable job at filling the void left by Woo-jin’s wounded pride, but soon it’ll be her turn to play the game after her confidence in her fellow man has been shattered, ground into a pulp, and used as starch for Do-young’s suits. How else is he to keep them so perfectly pressed? Orphan’s tears are so last year.

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EPISODE 9: “Smuggling Game I”

We rewind a bit to PD Lee’s conversation with Da-jung’s drunken father, who expressed his reluctance to meet his daughter when it’d just be fodder for PD Lee’s broadcast.

She tried to ease him down by assuring him that it wouldn’t be for the show, but for Da-jung: “She’ll be happy if she just knows you’re okay.”

Meanwhile, Woo-jin and Reporter Gu meet about the records he asked her to pull on Do-young—his immigration records, past residences, family—only for her to confess that she couldn’t find a single slip of paper.

When she asks what exactly happened during the Walden Two Experiment that Do-young may have been a part of, Woo-jin can only explain the little he knows, which is that it was involved highly secret and illegal psychological experiments on children.

To find out more about Do-young’s past, Woo-jin enlists the help of master hacker and fellow contestant Sung-joon. (How did they ditch the cameras?)

PD Lee takes Da-jung’s father out to hear his story. Dad admits that he’d tried to commit suicide by hanging himself with his own necktie after L Company went down, only to be stopped when Da-jung unexpectedly came home.

She had no idea what he’d been trying to do and tied his necktie for him, breaking his heart in the process. In the present, PD Lee’s eyes water at the story, as she all but pleads with Dad to just give Da-jung a call if nothing else.

Director Jang seems suspicious of where PD Lee has been running off too lately, but the suspicion on the forefront of his mind is Do-young. If the rumors about Do-young’s finances being not-so-great, then maybe it wasn’t pure happenstance that Do-young became a participant.

So it becomes clear that Director Jang thinks Do-young created the show just so he could join to win the ten million dollar/ten million won prize, but he doesn’t have enough evidence to support his theory. Yet.

Since Do-young is still a contestant, Director Jang has to keep playing MC as he interviews both him and Dal-goo for the broadcast. When asked whether he’ll be looking out for Woo-jin the next round, Do-young says he’s more wary of Da-jung, because he can at least predict Woo-jin’s actions. Da-jung is another story.

But there’s got to be a reason Dal-goo is the only one sitting next to him, and Do-young reveals it when he announces who he’ll pick as his teammates (since winning the last round affords him that luxury): Da-jung and Dal-goo.

Dal-goo is in shock while Do-young explains that his “noble” reasoning for taking Da-jung from Woo-jin’s team is because he thinks Woo-jin is using her. Why else would a genius swindler like him participate in the game, even if he promised to give Da-jung all his earnings?

In an effort to corner Do-young, Director Jang asks how he’d spend the prize money if he won it. Do-young thinks for a second before replying that he’d dump the bills over Seoul from a helicopter.

“Imagine it,” he says. “Thousands upon thousands of golden bills fluttering in the wind, falling from the sky. What a grand spectacle it would be, everyone running into the streets for money, their hands stretching up to the heavens, their faces turned up to the sky. I want to see those faces from far above.” Of course you do, Crazypants McGee. Of course you do.

Even though Director Jang and Dal-goo bring up the myriad reasons why that would be a baad idea, Do-young just jokes that he’d pay whatever fines he’d incur if his stunt were to shut the city down.

Dal-goo watches the broadcast with his two favorite buddies as Do-young looks into the camera to address Woo-jin: “You said you would give all the prize money to Da-jung if you win. Will that be possible?” Is that a challenge?

He’s worried for Da-jung, and tells her that she should forfeit the game. Da-jung’s done the math and knows that she’d be out two hundred fifty thousand dollars—and besides, she promised to share her prize money with everyone, so she can’t very well back out now.

But if they’re worried she’ll lose and want her to quit, then she’ll do it… only if they agree to quit too. They won’t have as high of a forfeiture fee as her anyway, considering they haven’t won any money yet.

I’m guessing that they don’t agree, since Woo-jin and Dal-goo leave her apartment together as Dal-goo asks him why he didn’t push Da-jung to forfeit. Woo-jin, who was very quiet the whole conversation, just says that Do-young was right about focusing on Da-jung instead of him.

After sending an eye roll Da-jung’s way for not knowing her way around a makeup brush, Jaime is dragged aside by Director Jang despite her attempts to ignore him. He wants her to play both sides of the Woo-jin/Do-young rivalry so that she can betray both of them when the time comes. Isn’t that what she’s best at?

Jaime knows he must be desperate when he offers to split the prize money in half if she were to win, even though he tells her to be prepared in case she loses and takes them both down. “Don’t worry,” she assures him. “I’ll win even if I have to betray you.”

During the broadcast, Director Jang addresses the eight remaining contestants as he tells them that this is the penultimate round—if they survive, they’ll be able to compete for the ten million dollar prize.

For this round, they’ll be split into two teams, East and West. They’ll each act like two halves of a country and can only win by smuggling money across their fictional (but guarded) borders. Do-young gets to pick his team for the East, and chooses Actor Gu, Bulldog, and not Jaime (aka Sung-joon).

Which means Jaime has to reluctantly go to the West, with Woo-jin, Dal-goo, and Da-jung. Do-young manages to get Woo-jin’s attention when he embraces Sung-joon as a team member and mentions his superior hacking skills—yikes, he must know all about what Woo-jin asked Sung-joon to do.

But before the round actually begins, Sung-joon sneaks Woo-jin a USB drive. He must’ve gotten some dirt on Do-young, then.

They move to the playing field which has been divided into East and West with a physical border line standing between the two nations’ territories.

And, as fate would have it, a war is set to break out between the two countries, which would put them on lockdown—though each nation has the other’s treasury of five hundred million won. If they want to get their money back, they’ll have to smuggle it across the border using briefcases that can only hold one hundred million won/one hundred thousand dollars.

To demonstrate how the border will be run, Director Jang uses Da-jung and Woo-jin to act as citizen and border guard, respectively. Each citizen has a bank card that will only open the opposing nation’s bank, located in separate rooms across a hallway. Whatever they fail to smuggle by the end of the round will be distributed amongst the opposing teammembers.

Once they’ve obtained the amount of money they want to smuggle up to the maximum of one hundred thousand dollars, they have to face the border inspector. The inspector can choose to stop them and check their briefcase or let them pass, and in the event they’re stopped, the inspector must guess the amount being smuggled.

If what the inspector guesses is equal to the amount the smuggler has, then the smuggler fails and the money goes to the inspector as a prize. If the inspector guesses an amount greater than what the smuggler is carrying, the smuggler gets to keep whatever money they were smuggling along with half the amount they were accused of.

They’ll have thirty turns to play, and the final winner will be decided by whichever team has the largest sum leftover, whether that be from what they’ve smuggled across and/or what they’ve kept from being smuggled out of their country. The prize money will be deposited on bank cards they all receive, which will not be replaced if lost during the course of the game.

Jaime is the odd man out on her team, and blames Do-young for banishing her to the losing team. Dal-goo takes offense to that, but Woo-jin warns them to stay calm since the other team can see them from their vantage point.

Sung-joon doesn’t belong with his team either, even with Do-young’s assurance that if they just trust him and do what he says, they’ll win the round.

Meanwhile, Da-jung tells her teammates how they’ll win: if they don’t smuggle any money, they’ll only gain compensation money if they’re stopped by the inspector. Woo-jin says nothing about the plan, which can only mean he has another he’s not sharing.

Da-jung represents her team for the first round, and does a bad job of making it seem like she’s hauling a briefcase full of money (when she’s withdrawn none) to the East’s inspector, Actor Gu. He seems to be on to her when he warns her not to put on an act, and passes her without inspection.

Though Jaime wasn’t included when Da-jung revealed her plan she figures it out when Da-jung returns empty-handed, and warns her teammates that the strategy is doomed to fail since they wouldn’t be gaining any money by refraining from smuggling.

Claiming to have a plan that will actually work, Jaime is the next one to try smuggling, and is passed by the East’s inspector while carrying zero dollars. (Meaning that she successfully smuggled nothing.) The same happens for Dal-goo. So… how was this plan different from Da-jung’s, again?

Now that it’s their turn to play inspector, they send Dal-goo. He passes Sung-joon who then successfully smuggles one hundred thousand dollars across the border. Dal-goo has to answer to Jaime, since she told him to call the smuggler out for the maximum amount. “Why can’t you trust me?!” she screeches.

“How can I trust you?” Dal-goo answers. He claims he had no way of knowing whether she was just trying to help Do-young, and Jaime’s track record doesn’t exactly give her a good defense. So she just storms off to be the next inspector. Once again, Woo-jin doesn’t interfere.

The smuggler Jaime faces is none other than Do-young, and he’s very open about his strategy to make Jaime’s teammates suspect her by using up all ten minutes they have to make it look like they’re talking. That way, Jaime won’t be able to convince her team she’s sincere even if she actually is. Genius.

After the ten minutes have passed, Jaime makes the call and passes Do-young. He gives her his best shit-eating grin as he reveals his briefcase packed to the brim with one hundred thousand (now successfully smuggled) dollars.

As Do-young predicted/wanted, Dal-goo thinks Jaime lost to Do-young on purpose and won’t hear any arguments to the contrary. Da-jung is the only one who believes Jaime tried, but she isn’t the only one to see that their infighting was Do-young’s plan.

Woo-jin finally steps in to back Da-jung up, and locks gazes with Do-young from across the way as he tells his teammates that they have to stop the East team from smuggling any more money out. You don’t say.

He takes over as inspector and gets the East team rattled enough to fight with each other about who will do the smuggling, since whoever it is will have to face Woo-jin. Actor Gu takes the challenge, proclaiming that he’ll defeat Woo-jin. Feeling a little too full of ourselves after Woo-jin’s one and only loss, aren’t we?

In the inspection room, Woo-jin leaves a stack of cash on the ground he can point to while claiming that Actor Gu dropped some. In that way he’s able to quickly figure out that Actor Gu is carrying money when the older has-been scrambles to figure out if the fallen cash actually came from his briefcase.

Woo-jin correctly calls out Actor Gu for smuggling the max amount, which means all that money goes to the West team and has the exact effect Woo-jin intended by reminding them that they’re not cowards.

Having missed the exchange because he was playing Creepy Faces with the bathroom mirror, Do-young returns to find his team out a grand and scolds them for making a move without him—and for underestimating Woo-jin. As recompense, he confiscates his team’s bank cards so that he’ll be the only one smuggling and facing off against Woo-jin.

When Sung-joon questions whether that’s even allowed, Do-young tells them that he already checked with the staff. Besides, they broke their word to do as he said by acting without him, so having their bank cards confiscated is only fair. According to Do-young, anyway.

Sung-joon is the only one reluctant to hand over his card, but relents when he’s given no other choice. Do-young takes control like a true dictator leader by rallying his troops under one flag—they’re at war, and they’ll only survive if they give Do-young the power to decide for them.

Since Do-young will be leaving them to their own devices, he sets up a system to catch any would-be betrayer amongst them by promising to reward the spy with the betrayer’s bank card (and prize money) if a betrayal is successfully reported to him.

“I’ll handle the Smuggling Game from now on,” Do-young tells his underlings. “You can play the Betrayal Game.”

On the other side, Jaime tries to gain Dal-goo’s trust by promising to relinquish her bank card if they find that she’s betrayed them. It doesn’t work, prompting Da-jung to ask Woo-jin to make a decision they can follow so that no side can accuse the other of rigging the game.

He pretty much lets them do whatever they want, and leaves Dal-goo to try and smuggle the full amount past Inspector Do-young. Using the full ten minutes, Dal-goo brings up Do-young’s past as a financial analyst on Wall Street, and calls him on his bullshit when he claims that he left the job because of people like Woo-jin manipulating the stock market.

Do-young chuckles as he gives him that point, but his explanation for why he left the job is far stranger: “When you consider money, it’s fascinating. It’s like a living thing, as though it’s acting of its own volition.” I love how Dal-goo asks if Do-young has a telepathic link to money the way someone would ask a crazy person to translate what their imaginary friend is saying.

“It seems like people move money, doesn’t it?” Do-young asks. “Not so. Money moves people.” Having seen millionaires and paupers as an analyst, Do-young says they were all wrong in thinking that they owned the money. They were all moving as the money told them to.

And he could always tell just by looking at someone how much money it would take to move them. Dal-goo starts sweating as Do-young looks straight through his eyes and into his soul before calling out the exact amount Dal-goo was smuggling. Do-young wins.

Dal-goo reports to his teammates that Do-young can figure out the amount they took by just looking at them, which has everyone unsettled except for Woo-jin. At least on the outside.

Da-jung volunteers to go against Do-young next with a sum of fifty-five thousand dollars/fifty-five million won which Jaime thinks is too specific for Do-young to guess. If Do-young passes them or guesses less than the amount Da-jung is carrying, they win.

She steels herself against her face-off with Do-young, but is remarkably brave when she looks him square in the eyes and tells him to guess how much she has if he’s got such a knack for it.

Do-young doesn’t even hesitate before announcing, “Stop. Fifty-five million won.” WHOA. Did he just…? No way.

Even Woo-jin is caught off-guard, because as far as he could pick up, Do-young was skilled in hiding a lie but not in reading the cliffnotes written on people’s faces. He (finally!) offers to represent his team against Do-young, and follows his teammates’ advice to smuggle zero dollars—the only way they could lose is if Do-young passed them without inspection.

Woo-jin’s meeting with Do-young doesn’t last long though, since Do-young passes him. Yikes. Jaime: “He’s an upgraded version of Ha Woo-jin!” If that’s true, then they’ve already lost.

Now that it’s Woo-jin’s turn to play inspector, Do-young faces him in every round thanks to that loophole he found with his team’s bank cards. And Woo-jin gets it wrong THREE TIMES in a row, meaning three solid wins for Do-young. Okay, now I’m starting to sweat a little. Get your shit together, Woo-jin! You’re better than this! (…Aren’t you?)

But again, the West loses in all three rounds when they’re smuggling against Inspector Do-young, who correctly guesses exactly how much they are or aren’t smuggling each and every time. His accuracy is so eerily spot on that Director Jang asks PD Lee if she’s secretly helping him, only for her to direct him to the footage that’ll answer his questions.

Woo-jin may not know how Do-young’s x-ray vision works, but he does know that Do-young gets to play all the rounds because he’s confiscated his team’s bank cards. He seems to be counting on what happens next when the East team lowers their guard at the announcement that Dal-goo will be the border inspector.

Whether Do-young is letting his guard down or just allowing others to think so is up for grabs, but he agrees to take a break for this mini-round by letting his underlings handle it. They all think Dal-goo will be an easy opponent.

Thank goodness for the West when Dal-goo correctly guesses the amount Bulldog was trying to smuggle across. He claims he was using a method like Do-young’s “sense” for money but not quite as accurate, and wants another round to prove it.

It is kind of funny to watch Dal-goo use his sixth sense in the next round, but you can’t argue with results: Dal-goo guesses correctly again, netting another win for the West. Then he goes back in for the third round and wins again.

Since they can’t ever get any money past Do-young when it comes to the East playing inspector, they keep taking empty briefcases for Do-young to pass—in that way, the West team can prevent Do-young from gaining any more money even if it means they’re not winning any either.

Jaime’s stake in this is becoming more suspicious by the second as Woo-jin sends Da-jung as their team’s smuggler with written instructions (for her eyes only) on how to figure out how Do-young is reading people, even if she loses in the round.

Da-jung reads what he wrote once she gets to the bank, her eyes widening instantly. Methinks those aren’t instructions on how to throw Do-young off the scent.

When she faces Do-young, he already knows that Woo-jin tried teaching her how to fool him. “How much do you trust Ha Woo-jin?” Do-young asks. “Haven’t you ever thought of suspecting him?”

“Why would I suspect him?” Da-jung asks defiantly. Do-young acts nonchalant about the possibility that she may be eliminated this round, and uses that as a reason to tell her the bit of info he’s been sitting on: Did she know that Woo-jin is responsible for her father’s debt?

Director Jang hears this in the control room and asks PD Lee if she’s heard this rumor, to which she unconvincingly stammers a “No.”

But Da-jung isn’t one to take Do-young’s words to heart as she tells him, “You’re a really bad person, trying to make us suspicious of each other with that kind of nonsense. Do you want to win that badly?”

Do-young just laughs, because this is all a game to him. Then he calls her out for fifty thousand won—the amount Jaime told her to carry—only for her to reveal a briefcase filled with twice that.

Since the microphone is turned on only when the inspector presses the button, Da-jung jumps for the mic so she can address the citizens of the East as she tells them that Do-young’s supposed x-ray vision was a trick.

“If you give up your cards and let Kang Do-young do as he wants, do you think he’ll take care of you? A person like him wouldn’t do that, and you all know it! We’re being tricked! Fight! We’ll help you!” I love that this is like a call to arms, in keeping with the round’s theme.

Both sides are left with silence when Da-jung is forcibly dragged from the mic, leaving Jaime to wonder what happened—wasn’t Da-jung supposed to take fifty thousand with her?

“She was,” Woo-jin says as he approaches Jaime. “Why did you do it? Why did you do it… Jo Dal-goo?”

 
COMMENTS

Wait, WHAT?!?! Nooooooooo! I refuse to believe that’s true. Please let it not be true. It can’t be true… right? It better not be. *panics*

Setting aside how Dal-goo’s betrayal would change everything if it were true (which it most definitely is not), it was an intense hour for Team Woo-jin after his crushing defeat in the last round. I get the feeling that no one was more aware of that than Woo-jin, though it would’ve been nice to take a peek into his skull meat during the long silences where he was just watching his teammates make questionable decisions.

Then again, I can’t speak to whether that internal war even existed, since we weren’t given (m)any clues from Woo-jin to know if he was taking more of a backseat approach to the round because he’d been chastened by his loss. There were definitely times where I was frustrated with him sending his teammates into a losing battle because it seemed like he would’ve figured out that Do-young had outside help by then, but I switched gears to being anxiously concerned for him once he tried and failed to bypass Do-young himself.

But it was interesting that Woo-jin’s first reaction wasn’t to doubt the authenticity of Do-young’s x-ray vision, but to try and find ways to circumvent it. It meant he wouldn’t leave anything out of the realm of possibility when it came to Do-young, and I’d like to think that losing to him last round worked in making Woo-jin more gun-shy in general, or at least when it comes to Do-young. There’s a person he can’t read, not just in one millisecond but in multiple face-to-face conversations. For a guy who’s used to figuring people out without a second glance, it’s got to be hard to face someone who’s impervious to his genius, even if that’s where the fun comes in as far as being an audience member goes.

I do love how Liar Game employs red herrings so well that its use of red herrings has become something of a red herring—I admit to thinking that Jaime being the group’s betrayer would be too easy, even though I couldn’t begin to imagine who else could be behind Do-young’s uncannily accurate psychic readings. So then I circled back around to thinking the show was merely trying to divert attention away from Jaime when it was really Jaime, which could very well be the case come next episode, but for now I have to give credit where credit is due, because I didn’t suspect a thing when it came to Dal-goo. And while I hope he will be cleared of any and all suspicions tomorrow, for now I gotta hand it to the show: You got me. You really, really got me. (But you leave Dal-goo Ajusshi alone, you hear?)

 
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Do Young so creepy but they got him good! I felt like throwing up from the tension between him and Woo jin!

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oh, and Dal Goo and Jaime, SO good! but what was that elevator? why the cutie!

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oh gosh delete this if you can how stupid of me

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and, Woo Jin and his eternal Grumpy Cat expression. huhuhu

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I had the impression that he was observing closely without wanting to appear to be watching. He took a back seat on purpose to read the body language and expressions of those around him, and then planned what to do when he got wind of what was happening.

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@ GB,

Great interpretation of HWJ’s attitude. I was thinking along the same lines as you. At 1st, I couldn’t understand when he didn’t seem to do anything (or much), and why he was spending so much time in the background. Then towards the end of the ep., I thought he might have wanted to observe for a while, before coming with another plan. What Heads said could also be true, that he might still have been feeling the sting of his defeat in the last round, when ep.9 started, hence his being in the back, for a while.

I thought it was interesting when Heads mentioned that there was a rumor that DY’s finances were not so great. And I thought, “really? And he buys/drinks 15,000USD bottles of wine?” Though one could argue (I guess), that he could have bought that bottle of wine when his finances were better.

On a different note, am I the only one who thought that Dir. Jang and Jamie looked like they had something going on (like a relationship)? And they might not have one, really. It is just the way they interact, at times, like in the scene when they were outside. The actress playing Jaimie is so good. I keep thinking about her role in 7LCS, and of how small her role was there. And in this drama, she simply shines. .

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I agree, by now, Jaimie has become a brilliant role. everyone is just so good! but Dal Goo is simply adorable. he has the heart of a child, really. forming strong attachments the same as an orphan... I just want there to be a chibi-Dal Goo-huggy pillow or something.
but seriously, what do I do. the two episodes 9 & 10 nearly had me fainting from the tension. I feel something twisting inside

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Hey Ivoire! Nice to see you again!

I believe Dir. Jang is her sponsor. According to K-entertainment gossip, that's what they call a high-ranking official in the entertainment industry who may or may not have a relationship with a male/female actor/singer/comedian and use their connection to get said male/female fame and popularity. The official usually gets something out of it in return, be it a share of the profits upon the person becoming popular or other favours. And Jamie is absolutely stunning. She's honestly the most nuanced character in this show, and so beautiful and brainy that I wonder why she's fighting so hard for money on a show like this.

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I was wondering, what does "chibi" means in this, a "chibi-Dal Goo-huggy pillow?"

Lee El and SSR are simply shining for me in this drama. They have come to embody their characters, and Lee El has done so from the beginning, I think (I will have to rewatch the beginning of the drama, to be sure). I am also enjoying KSE's performance a lot, too bad K. netizens don't think her performance is that good, based on what she told SJR in WGM *Sad Panda*

Jamie and DY as characters have such a presence, when they come on the screen, and I simply love watching every nuance Lee EL and SSR express through their characters. I keep having this feeling that both actors must be tremendously enjoying playing their characters, and I hope they are. Based on what I read about the actors (and actresses) on the set, they are all enjoying portraying their characters.

Jamie as a character is having such an interesting arc, and I am glad about that. Lee El gets to portray a myriad of emotions, while being Jamie (and so does SSR). I love the other actors as well, and how they also came to embody their characters. I have noticed that actor Gu looks or act old school. The way he sometimes frowns his eyebrows, and the way he carries himself, makes me think of an old school kind of American actor. There is something about his face, and about the way in which he moves, that just reminds of those actors in the 40s and the 50s. That might just be me. Bulldog is always up for a fight (true to his name), and easy to rile up (so is DG, btw), and CSJ keeps reminding me of a puppy, in great part b/c of the expressions of his eyes, and b/c of his face.

DG IS adorable, and it is kind of interesting how he cannot hide his emotions. If he is excited, happy, upset, angry, one will know right away.

I thought it was interesting when DY said that NDJ was the one he was afraid of. At the time, I didn’t think DY meant it, I thought he was just being facetious. I thought to myself, "what in NDJ could DY be afraid of?" However, when I saw how NDJ reacted to DY's "confession," tightening her fists in anger, calling DY a bad person, and going through with HWJ's plan, I realized that DY was probably right.

NDJ would not always be predictable (at least not for DY), since he would not easily manipulate her. I found it interesting b/c in a way, she was the one who exposed him, by shedding light on his bluff of being clairvoyant, and on warning the rest of the East team that DY might not take care of them in the end. So DY was right in saying that he had to be cautious about her. Be careful what you wish for, DY. You might actually get it.

NDJ surprised me with her reaction, at the end of the ep., and she surprised all the contestants as well. I was so proud of her, for standing up to DY (again), and for lashing out at him. And DY, the way he likes to play with people's emotions, looking closely at NDJ, to see how she would react at his revelation, tsk, tsk, tsk...

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chibi is like a cute child-like version manga style portrait of a person or character, it has a larger than life head and tiny body
it doesnt HAVE TO be cute though as proves this Cha Seung Won chibi image: https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQU7_K4AVRAk7fjlMIb7dW9KxdMMWDjH2NYXEjdzNyCngvD4vBy

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@ redfox,
Oh WOW! Thank you for the visual, that helped. And thanks for explaining.

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About Da Jung: I love the irony of the one who is in a sense the simplest to understand, being at the same time the one who is the least predictable for Do Young.

If because of goodness, trust and honesty, money does not move Da Jung, Do Young will have to use other means to manipulate her, and he has begun already. But whether he can succeed remains to be seen.

I'm guessing that it will probably be because she is simple and good, that Da Jung will be able to help bring Do Young down, when more complicated and smarter schemes will fail.

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OMG I was really shocked when he made those expressions into the mirror AGAIN. This time round his expressions are even scarier than the last episode. Holy Shit. I wonder what his neighbors thinks of him now...

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@ fat_crayon,

When I saw DY make those expressions in the mirror again, I thought, “yeah, seeing it a 2nd time does not take the creepiness away.” A testament (I think) of SSR’s acting. And then, it seems as if every time DY goes to the bathroom, he has to try those expressions, or spend time looking at his face in the mirror. I guess he really doesn’t have any friends to play with.

SSR is so good in this role: every look (of his eyes), every smirk, every detail his face shows reinforces how devious and creepy DY actually is. As a commenter said last week, he can also be suave. I also like how his make-up has been done, in the recent episodes. The details in his acting are so good. He is very interesting to watch. .

DG is such an easy target for DY, who can just rile him up the way he wants to. When I 1st saw DY give his glass to DG, I was like “don’t drink it. You don’t know what might be in it.” LOL, the glass was probably brought by the staff, but I have lost all faith in anything DY does, hence my thoughts. And Jamie, he just called her a “thing?” My subs had DY as saying, “I don’t like things I can’t predict,” when he was asked about Jamie. Wow! I guess constantly demeaning people is also part of his MO.

About this, “Holy Shit. I wonder what his neighbors thinks of him now…” Maybe his neighbors would like to go and say “Hello!” ?

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"When I 1st saw DY give his glass to DG, I was like “don’t drink it. You don’t know what might be in it.”
YES xD I thought of you the second I saw that moment. I was like, Ivoire's definitely going to notice the YFAS moment :D

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@ Ivoire
"And then, it seems as if every time DY goes to the bathroom, he has to try those expressions, or spend time looking at his face in the mirror. I guess he really doesn’t have any friends to play with. "

LOL! I am still giggling about your last sentence here. Yes in one of the last episode's posts we said something about Do Young's lack of playmates.

That bathroom time, DY was deliberately wasting time so that the other 3 would take matters into their own hands and probably lose, so that DY could come and chastise them and use their incompetence and "disobedience" to his rules to take away their cards.

He had already checked with the station (he claimed) that he could do this, so the taking their cards was planned way in advance by DY.

When he did this, the thought that came to my mind was that he is not interested in team work at all, just in dictatorship and that he wants to be THE player to play against Woo Jin. Taking all the cards would guarantee that.

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Hello Shalini~ Great to see you here as well :-)

So, is your Physics text/exam still tomorrow? (See, I DID read your blog :-) ). If it is, I hope that you will do well. Please make LSY proud (as you know, Physics major :-) and I KNOW [oh by now, I do] how much you love him :-) ). Also, I left you some answers in ep.8 recap. I just have one more to write :-) (and then I might have been done answering your comments to me).

I am responding 1st to this, your 1st post on this page: 1.2.1.1.2 Shalini November 19th, 2014 at 2:40 PM

Thank you for clarifying for us Dir. Jang's role in Jamie's life, and in the show. I am glad that Dir. Jang mentioned the financial arrangement he wanted with Jamie in this ep., as it does confirm that whole "being a celebrity (or future celebrity)'s sponsor." So, besides good ratings for the show (and some sensationalism), Dir. Jang is interested in 1/2 of the prize money, should Jamie win. no wonder he brought her in.

About this, "And Jamie is absolutely stunning. She’s honestly the most nuanced character in this show, and so beautiful and brainy that I wonder why she’s fighting so hard for money on a show like this."
Yes, having watched ep. 10 raw (for now), Jamie is the most nuanced character in this show, I agree with you. As I have mentioned in a comment I posted not long ago to redfox, she is having quite an arc as a character, a longer arc than all the other characters. You are so right about that. And hasn't Lee El risen to the challenge in this drama? She plays/wears Jamie (now) like a fitted glove. I am always so impressed when people find what they love, what they are potentially good at, and when eventually, they shine, while (hopefully) getting better at it. I see SSR in that way, and Lee El as well.

What is funny and interesting is that late last night, I was rereading a fairly good fanfic online about Ga Eul (KSE) and Song Yi Jung (KB), the 2 characters from BOF. Watching KSE in this drama (and I have seen her in a couple of other drama, and in Music and Lyrics with Junho of 2PM, so cute those 2 in there), I was able to see and think about her trajectory, and her growth since 2009, when she was in that drama. I must admit that they (GE-SYJ) were one of my favorite couples in BOF.

@ Shalini, Heads said this, "Orphan’s tears are so last year."Google told me that Ophan's tears is a song, is it? Would you know what that means, or represents? 2-Based on the speculations about DY's financial status, do you think he (DY) might still be after the money? 3-When DY was saying goodbye to Jamie, he sounded like he was telling her to go and betray her team well. Was that what he essentially said? (I think he said sth along the lines of, "that betrayal thing you do, go and do it well," I think).

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@ Shalini~ Part 2:

Going back to Jamie, I love how they made her plain in the early episodes, only to have her being "va va voom" in the last 6 episodes. I couldn't help but chuckle at her Sharon Stone moment (from Basic Instinct). I guess she was not kidding, when she said that she would do ANYTHING to win :-) And I loved Bulldog's acting as well. And yes, Jamie is beautiful and brainy. I think that she is on a show like that, b/c if she does it right, she could win a lot of money, and it does bring her exposure, and fame. That is how people become TV personalities, or "Celebrities," even if they don't go into acting.

Have you heard of Non Summit on JTBC? Many of the participants on that show (foreigners living in Korea), have achieved a certain level of fame, and have been in some TV ads, and photo ads as well. I have seen them (the ads) and I have watched a few epis. Of the show. I also personally know one of the participants (so the info I read from him is legit). So again, if Jamie plays it right (which I imagine she would), there could be a lot in store for her. Besides, Jamie seems to be the kind of character who would enjoy that kind of fame, and who could handle it as well. Some info about Non Summit, Abnormal Summit:

1--http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-Summit

2-http://bxrme.tumblr.com/post/92235653533/abnormal-summit-subbed

I believe she is also on the show b/c she might be connected to the L Company, which I am assuming and hoping, we will find out more about next week. Speaking of L Company, Jaimie said in ep.4 (I think?) that she tricked one of the former contestants to be on the show. So is Jamie on the LG b/c 1-she tricked that contestant, 2-Dir. Jang brought her on board (or did he approach her, after he saw her footage, with the contestant?) But then, didn’t DY also PERSONALLY chose ALL the contestants for LG (and they ALL are connected to L Company?) Am I back to being confused? :-)

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Hey Ivoire! Sorry about the lateness! Econ was holding me up :P
One more week of classes left then I’m done until next term! xD It’s shame that Liar Game didn’t come around winter break, this recapping/rewatching/madfangirling/LSYloving has made life quite intense but I’m loving it xD
“And hasn’t Lee El risen to the challenge in this drama? She plays/wears Jamie (now) like a fitted glove. I am always so impressed when people find what they love, what they are potentially good at, and when eventually, they shine, while (hopefully) getting better at it. I see SSR in that way, and Lee El as well.”
I’m definitely going to be checking out anything Lee El does next, this has been a fantastic rise for her, and she fully deserves it. I’m honestly starting to wonder how SSR can look at himself in the mirror now without being creeped out xD It must be difficult to remain so immersed in a character during a scene and having to switch out during daily life (plus he’s working on TWO dramas! This man is insane!)
“Watching KSE in this drama (and I have seen her in a couple of other drama, and in Music and Lyrics with Junho of 2PM, so cute those 2 in there), I was able to see and think about her trajectory, and her growth since 2009, when she was in that drama.”
Are you watching WGM as well? She’s on there with Song JaeRim and our HWJ did make a brief cameo in congratulating them on their ‘marriage’ and on the food SJR sent.
“ Heads said this, “Orphan’s tears are so last year.”Google told me that Ophan’s tears is a song, is it? Would you know what that means, or represents?”
I actually have no idea! Have you found the answer yet? I’d love to know if you do!

“2-Based on the speculations about DY’s financial status, do you think he (DY) might still be after the money? “
Hmm..he may be after the money but not for monetary reasons, if that makes sense. He just wants the sense of adulation that it’s going bring him (falling from the sky). He’s more after the win as NDJ so accurately pointed out!
“3-When DY was saying goodbye to Jamie, he sounded like he was telling her to go and betray her team well. Was that what he essentially said? (I think he said sth along the lines of, “that betrayal thing you do, go and do it well,” I think).”
I heard something similar as well on the lines of “go do that betrayal thing you’re so good at”
“Have you heard of Non Summit on JTBC? Many of the participants on that show (foreigners living in Korea), have achieved a certain level of fame, and have been in some TV ads, and photo ads as well. I have seen them (the ads) and I have watched a few epis. Of the show. I also personally know one of the participants (so the info I read from him is legit).”
That sounds super cool! I actually haven’t heard of it, but I’ll definitely check it out once things settled down academically xD I was wondering though, is the general reaction to the show positive? I’ve heard a lot about the racial bias displayed in Korea towards foreigners...

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@ Ivoire part 2:
I’ve heard a lot about the racial bias displayed in Korea towards foreigners and I was wondering whether your friend had to endure any of that as well. It’s a pity as I’d love to visit the country someday, but seeing all the negative comments to those of my skin colour, it can get downright disheartening :P
“Jaimie said in ep.4 (I think?) that she tricked one of the former contestants to be on the show. So is Jamie on the LG b/c 1-she tricked that contestant, 2-Dir. Jang brought her on board (or did he approach her, after he saw her footage, with the contestant?) But then, didn’t DY also PERSONALLY chose ALL the contestants for LG (and they ALL are connected to L Company?) Am I back to being confused? ”
Hmm…the drawbacks of a 12 episode format are made clear once again! But I believe it’s a combination of all three factors, Jamie was manipulated into the game by KDY as well. KDY had a very good idea of her nature and probably decided to nominate someone she knew (who appeared to have been as naïve as DJ) and knew that Jamie would definitely betray her and thus enter the game. Regardless of when she was sponsored by Dir. Jang from the very beginning or not, KDY seemed to be well aware that she would make it. Thus when Dir. Jang demanded that she be put on the show, KDY already had the upper hand. I’m still now sure how all the contestants are connected. Is it L company? Or the orphanage? We’ll definitely have to see how that plays out but with the return of the painting, anything’s possible!

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Thanks Heads!

What a stunning ending, even Jamie could not have been more shocked!

Do Young is really getting under my skin, manipulating circumstances and people to steal away support from Woo Jin. It seemed to me that he really meant it at the interview when asked who he would pick for his team and he looked at Dal Goo and called him by name. Then he picks Sung Joon and sends Jamie over to the other team, perhaps with plans to get her to betray, as she is wont to do?

It's heartening though that Do Young has to admit that he is uncertain about Da Jung, and she proves his fears well founded as she continues through the shocking news about her father with total trust in Woo Jin. I really like her expression when she opened the bag that last time to prove how wrong Do Young was. Was his expression at the sight of the bag's contents, finally an authentic one?

How I applaud her taking control of the mic and shaking up the other team! She is no longer just a doormat, but is taking more initiative. That felt so good! :D

Now that Do Young has pinned Da Jung's father's downfall on Woo Jin, I fear that Da Jung, the last unshaken member of Woo Jin's team, may be hurt and that their relationship of trust will be broken. But,... I want to have faith in forgiveness and in her naive re-trusting those who have hurt her, this time more than ever! :)

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Hello GB~

So great to read from you again! For once, I actually understood the rules of the games (at least 80% of them :-) ), and I enjoyed this ep. Watching DY at the beginning of the ep. was as creepy as at the end of ep.8. He kind of looked like a robot in that scene to me, did he to you?

I also loved that even though NDJ’s dad was destitute, PD Lee showed him some respect by pouring him the drink. It’s a detail, but one that I actually loved. It showed how much she actually cared (I think), and it is not all about business for her. Another detail we found out, was that NDJ actually lives in the house her dad used to live in. Awww… And he was going to kill himself there? What kinds of memories would NDJ have had of that place then?

You know, when I watched DY during the interview, I was reminded of what Shalini had said about DY having a God-complex. He really does seem to have one. DY wants to see “people running in the street to grab money from the sky sprinkled by god DY, with their faces and their hands outstretched towards the sky.” Isn’t that a worshiping posture?

I remember thinking, “Wow, Shalini was right about that God-complex DY has, and it is not a small one.” And DY was not even concerned about creating chaos in Seoul, SMH. it was all about him, wasn’t it? And his response to creating chaos: “oh, I will just pay the fine then.”

What was interesting to me, was to watch 4 people’s reactions in that scene: DY, who for a few secs. closed his eyes, as he imagined people worshipping him. DG looking at DY in disbelief, Dir. Jang attentively listening to DY, and PD Lee rolled her eyes for a few secs. at DY’s sense of grandeur about himself (I think that was why she rolled her eyes). DY enjoyed the reaction of those around him, and he probably imagined the reactions of the viewers. That man loves attention, it seems like.

For once, Dir. Jang was right about some of the main traits of the main characters: DY’s charisma, HWJ’s resourcefulness, and NDJ’s trust, hum.. Would those traits help them in the smuggling game? And, the challenging look DY gave HWJ at the end of the interview, I think DY likes HWJ a little too much :-)

Thank you for the recaps, Heads! @ GB, btw, I did reply to your email, FYI, and I look forward to reading more of your comments :-)

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Whoa thanks ! xD I've only seen ep 9 yet, so I can't wait to see how things turn out tonight!
I feel like DY made a lot of mistakes in this episode. It’s almost as if defeating HWJ has gone to his head (which is extremely strange seeing as this is KDY whose mask has never dropped before). But for some reason, it wavers like crazy during this episode. The bathroom scene and everything. Every nerve in his body seemed to scream "I am above you all of you." The way he said they should "at least accept this much punishment" and even sowed discord by saying they should "play the Betrayal Game".
I wonder if KDY can really read into people that well. He may have made a grave error in ditching Jamie so easily. Because Jamie is exceptionally clever in her own right and will do anything to ensure that her side wins, and in this case that’s HWJ and NDJ. KDY may be just given them another ally.
The Smuggling Game essentially pits HWJ and KDY against each other. But I think, there’s a slight difference here in comparison to their coin-tossing game. While that game did show us KDY’s ablity to manipulate his microexpressions, it never showed us how good he was at determining when others were lying. I wondered if the ability to “wear his mask so naturally” (as HWJ said) allows him to guess what’s behind others’ masks. But after JDG's betrayal and NDJ successfully fooling him (I feel so proud for some reason) I think it's pretty clear that HWJ was right. KDY can lie exceedingly well, but can't tell when other's are lying. Unfortunately for him, both areas are still within HWJ's expertise. Can't wait for the upcoming face-off!

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@ Ivoire
Congratulations on getting comfortable with the rules... I wasn't but that never stopped me!

Re: dad's suicide attempt. Bad place to use!!! Had a friend of a friend who came home from a holiday to find a suicide in their home!!! Horrible. For Da Jung though, the upside is that she unknowingly prevented it because it was attempted at home.

Re: god complex. That same thought entered my mind. I am more convinced that Do Young is not right mentally now. Not just the 'normal' psychopathic type but the mad type of mentally unbalanced.

Yup saw email and replied!!

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Sorry, but Do-young is just plain stupid. Why would he reveal his ploy so easily? Especially when he knows that he is against Woo-jin? Does he PLAN to lose this round?

There is no way he can guess the EXACT amount of money with virtually no information. Everyone in possession of a working brain can figure out immediately that he either has bugged the other team or there is a mole. Also, this is totally unnecessary, because he gains exactly NOTHING that way. Who is he trying to impress?

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Hey !

Sawing your comment, I thought I could bring some answers (maybe ^^'). I think Do Young gives the exact amount of money to unsettle them. First he makes an extravagant claim like he's clairvoyant (or whatever), then proves to them that he really knows what they smuggle.
And they don't suspect there's a mole at first because even though Jamie has a history of betrayal, she knows she'll be the first to be suspected. And apart from her, who could be the mole ? Woo Jin and Da Jung are not possibilities, then there is Dal Goo. But he is completely devoted to Da Jung. So that is why having a mole and identifying her/him is not as simple as it should be.
Also, I think that Do Young plans to have his strategy revealed, since his aim (apart from winning) is to prove people can't be trusted and they will be moved by money.

Anyway, this is what I think ^^

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"Sawing your comment, I thought I could bring some answers (maybe ^^’). I think Do Young gives the exact amount of money to unsettle them. First he makes an extravagant claim like he’s clairvoyant (or whatever), then proves to them that he really knows what they smuggle."

Well, nobody believes him anyway. The only people he might want to play this way is the TV audience (in-universe). Neither Jamie nor Woo-jin are stupid enough to believe in that nonsense.

"And they don’t suspect there’s a mole at first because even though Jamie has a history of betrayal, she knows she’ll be the first to be suspected. And apart from her, who could be the mole ? Woo Jin and Da Jung are not possibilities, then there is Dal Goo. But he is completely devoted to Da Jung. So that is why having a mole and identifying her/him is not as simple as it should be."

Well, first of all, as long as she is not caught, it doesn't matter whether she would have been suspected or not. She is on the sinking ship and would betray them as soon as she gains anything from it. I trust her in that.
Dal-gu already betrayed Da-jung before, just like Woo-jin predicted btw. His devotion is actually the reason why he is very likely to betray her again, and we've seen (and so did Woo-jin) Do-young's modus operandi, at least in the Election game.

Now, Do-young tried to frame Jamie as a traitor, he also immediately made clear that there is either a traitor in the team or he is using illegal techniques (a bug, a member of the staff, ...). To make certain that Woo-jin would suspect Dal-gu, Dal-gu was able to guess the opposite's team's cases. It was clearly obvious that either Dal-gu is the mole, or Do-young cheats to frame him that way.

I was surprised that Woo-jin took so awfully long to finally call Dal-gu out on it, because she must have known very early on. I hope he has a gambit to back up this strategy, because Do-young probably has. He is a psychopath, but not an idiot.

"Also, I think that Do Young plans to have his strategy revealed, since his aim (apart from winning) is to prove people can’t be trusted and they will be moved by money."

Well, he already revealed it (the first layer, that is). The problem is, this game is NOT about being moved by money, it's about team play. You cannot be sure you get any money if you don't trust your (official or inofficial) team members. The reason the smuggler is nervous on the checkpoint is not because of the amount of money he/she carries, but because of the fear of disappointing his/her team. The game would work just like that if they put peas in the box instead of money. The game is also about power, because the real resource of the game are the chip-cards (because they are transferable). Then again, to transfer your card to another person means you need to trust this other person.

Now, because THIS one game is not about money, Do-young cannot use the "I buy you" strategy. I have no idea how he is going to turn...

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Hi Jon G.
If Do Young is making his game plan obvious, it will be for a reason. There is nothing ad hoc about Do Young and what he does or seems to not do.

Besides winning the game (to maintain the "never lost a battle" record), his other aim is to "play" with people like the Greek gods who manipulated humans and sat back to be entertained. On top of that, I feel that he is experimenting to see just how far loyalty and trust can go. He's watching individuals like a mad scientist observing lab rats. Perhaps if he, himself, really was a subject of an inhuman and inhumane experiment, he's just doing what he's been trained to do.

The game plan may have gone awry for him at this stage, and he can lose, but there's the re-instatement round that he can take advantage of.

So perhaps Smuggling Game 1 is less about impressing and more about playing those loyal to Woo Jin against him....experimenting with them and observing the results in his cold-hearted way.

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"The game plan may have gone awry for him at this stage, and he can lose, but there’s the re-instatement round that he can take advantage of."

It's not really gone awry, because he knew exactly (or should have) that this was how it was going down. And he can easily predict that he is in a very disadvantageous position for the endgame of this round, which circles around power transfer and trust.
Right now, he took control of all the power on his own team, he controls the money and he planted a mole on the other team. But he has basically shot his bolt and now is on retreat with an empty quiver. I'm sure he planed it that way (because he is the one who called all the shots so far).

"So perhaps Smuggling Game 1 is less about impressing and more about playing those loyal to Woo Jin against him….experimenting with them and observing the results in his cold-hearted way."

So far, he did the opposite. He set himself up as the common enemy of all 7 remaining players. He managed to make frikking Jamie to become loyal to the Da-jung cause (well, loyal is relative, of course).

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***SPOILER as this happened in Ep 10***

If we go along with this idea that the results where DY seems to have lost and is standing alone as the common enemy is actually what he has planned all along, then we can conjecture that he only wants to appear at a disadvantage.

WJ failed earlier to pick up on what DY was doing, probably because WJ himself was over confident. With DY appearing to have lost, WJ might make the same mistake of under-estimating DY or over-estimating his own ability.

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Thanks for the recap.

I don't know for the others but , more than Woo- Jin, I like to see Da -Jung faces Do- Young.

When he bends creepily toward her after revealing Woo- Jin's part on her father's present situation, he was just like a devil trying to corrupt an innocent, then I liked to see Da-Jung looking straight at him without fear. That was cool.

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Question here: Why hasn't Woo-jin opened to Da-jung about the debt history like a long time ago? He knows that this is basically the only lethal weapon Do-young has, and the longer he waits, the more deadly it becomes.

I understand it from a dramatical point of view - it would solve things too easily - but from a character point of view, it's plain stupid. He knows Do-young will use this in a crucial situation, so hiding it is no option at all. If he had done it early on, Da-jung might have been angry or devastated for a while, but she would have come around eventually.

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Hi Jon G.
I think Woo-Jin doesn't want to disappoint Da-Jung and lose her trust. I think Woo-Jin believes he needs Da-Jung to win Liar Game.

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That's exactly why he should have told her about his role in her father's debt problems. Do-young knows about this and WILL use this information at the worst possible moment. The ONLY counter to that is to tell her in advance and weather the storm beforehand.

He will disappoint her and make her lose the game BECAUSE he didn't tell her.

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WJ thought that he would completely lose Da Jung. She even said that she wouldn't forgive the person responsible for dad's debts.

I agree that he should have told her. Since WJ knew that DY was involved in the L company, WJ should considered the possibility that he DY was going to tell DJ. You could say that the writers just made it this way to make it more entertaining.

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"WJ thought that he would completely lose Da Jung. She even said that she wouldn’t forgive the person responsible for dad’s debts."

Isn't he supposed to be a psychologist? And, additionally, isn't he supposed to be pretty good at reading people?

It was totally clear that she wasn't telling the truth when she said that. It wasn't clear to him why, but it was clear nonetheless. Not to mention, he ISN'T responsible for her dad's debts (but I've figured that responsibility in K-dramas is a totally different concept from responsibility in real life over here).

We all know that Da-jung would eventually forgive him if he told her early on, confessing that one of the reasons he helped her was that he felt guilty because of it. We all know that, and I only minored in psychology.

"Since WJ knew that DY was involved in the L company, WJ should considered the possibility that he DY was going to tell DJ. You could say that the writers just made it this way to make it more entertaining."

Of course. But it really, really hurts the credibility of Woo-jin's character.

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Hi Jon G!

I feel like we've made HWJ out to be some sort of emotionless, intelligent robot. While he is a brilliant professor, and can read people quite well, he's also well aware that things go awry when emotion is involved. I'm sure he never imagined becoming a murderer. Sure he'd be able to tell if DJ was serious about wanting revenge with a glance. But we need to see him as a person. This is too intimate, too personal for someone like him. He can't help associating it with what he would have done because he's only human. It would certainly be smart for him to tell her of their connection, and yes, things could turn ugly once she finds out, but he's afraid that he'll lose both her and the game if he did.
I actually love the fact that he keeps prolonging the inevitable, all while saying things like "don't trust me so much" because it shows his humanity, and his desire to protect DaJung. HWJ's is often only 99% right and doesn't hold all the cards. Hell, sometimes he's even stumped. He's certainly not ten steps ahead of the game the way KDY is. But I think it's important differences like that, which separate him from KDY. And it's a welcome nuance to his character, which extends it far beyond: genius, ex-convict, psychology professor. It's nice to have 'feeling, caring human' added onto the list.

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Apart from that it's also interesting how the show has made both HWJ's mother and NDJ successful in lying to him... it makes you wonder if HWJ's ability to detect lies can be "switched on and off", or that his failure to read his mother and NDJ stemmed from emotions clouding his sense of logic.

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I think it is precisely because DJ has the ability to be empathetic that sometimes escapes the grapes of the psychological analysis of WJ or DY.

The strength of DJ is pushed to an extreme point. I think this is why she is sometimes treated like an idiot or Buddha ( by our favorite debt collector ever) but also this is why she happens to surprise everybody.

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I think so too but it isn't something easy to say. Particulary to someone like DJ who seems to take every little pain, even the others', to heart.

Well, that being said, regarding WJ, I think he may be blaming himself for putting an innocent in his mother's situation (it is more striking now that we know DJ's father's suicide attempt too). He knows the possibility of DJ rejecting his help if she knows. So I think he kept it hidden because he wants to keep helping her because he feels guilty.

Regarding DJ, I don't think she really meant it when she said she would not forgive the person who did that to her father. I think she said it because she is an empathic person. She remembered what DY told her about WJ's vengence. I think it's a proof that, at that moment, she was unconsciously trying to tell him that she understands him but I am pretty sure that DJ's heart is bigger than that.

But because she said that she would hate the person and never forgive, WJ is being mislead and wasn't honest.

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Hi !!
Thanks for the recaps, I really like to see the insight of other people on this show ^^
I just think there was a point that wasn't clear in the episode. In the rules here, they said that when the inspector guesses an amount that is higher than what the smuggler has, then the smuggling is successful and the inspector has to pay the smuggler half of what he accused him of carrying. This part feels strange, since in the manga and the jdrama, the inspector would win if he guessed the right amount, but also if he gave a greater amount of what was smuggled. So is the korean show different on that point, or did my subs have a misunderstanding ?
Anyway, I really liked this episode, and especially the face off between Da Jung and Do Young. I won't say anything about ep 10, but I really hope they extend the drama, because ONLY 2 EPISODES LEFT ??? Noooooooo >.< There are two many answers to be given.

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I don't know the manga, nor the J-drama, but if you set the rule that way then wouldn't be the best strategy for the inspector to always guess the maximum, ie one hundred million won?

I do have to say that the rules of the rounds are often confusing or not clear for me... and I fully admit that now I let it be and just watch (mainly interested in the background stories and machinations of the master mind Do Young. Unless I'm blinded by his hotness... seriously whose brilliant idea was to give him the suit AND GLASSES??? :--) )

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It's the same as the j-drama/manga. If the inspector doubts a higher amount than the actual amount in the briefcase, the inspector successfully stops the smuggling without paying a penalty.

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I'm not sure which subs you used, but there was one that I watched with mistakes on this part.

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But then, as Dorotka says, wouldn't it be a safe strategy for the inspector to just guess the maximum amount every time? Even if the actual amount in the case was less, the inspector would have stopped the smuggling without losing anything for his side. That way the whole game could go without either team losing any money. Or am I missing something?

It seems to me that to make it so the inspector loses, and is penalized, if he guesses too high actually makes the game trickier (i.e. better) because it puts more pressure on the inspector to guess the right way.

The recap didn't explain what happens if the inspector guesses less than what the smuggler has; I am assuming that the smuggler has to give back the amount the inspector guessed, but gets to keep that rest. Is that correct?

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If the inspector guesses less than the actual amount, then the smuggling is successful and the inspector has to pay a penalty, which is half of what he guessed.

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"wouldn’t it be a safe strategy for the inspector to just guess the maximum amount every time?"

No if the smuggler brought no money, then the inspector has to pay the penalty, which is half the guessed amount. Guessing the maximum has this risk.

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I see below that Growingbeautifully answered the question in my last paragraph; thanks GB!

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Now I'm a bit more confused. You said before:

If the inspector doubts a higher amount than the actual amount in the briefcase, the inspector successfully stops the smuggling without paying a penalty.

and here:

No if the smuggler brought no money, then the inspector has to pay the penalty, which is half the guessed amount. Guessing the maximum has this risk.

So, if the smuggler has, say, $20,000 and the inspector guesses $100,000 (a higher amount than what's in the briefcase), the inspector stops the smuggling but doesn't pay any penalty. But if the smuggler has no money and the inspector guesses that she has $100,000, then the inspector pays a penalty of $50,000. Do I have that right?

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Yeah you have that right. Thanks for pointing it out. I should slightly reword what I said.

If the inspector doubts a higher amount than the actual amount in the briefcase(exluding $0), the inspector successfully stops the smuggling without paying a penalty.

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Got it! Thank you! Now that I understand it, I'm seeing that it really is a brilliant set-up. Love it!

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I find this game particularly confusing, but if I understand correctly, there are just a few possibilities. One, the inspector can pass. In that case, if the smuggler's carrying no cash, it's basically a draw. But if the smuggler IS carrying cash, it's a win for the smuggler.

Two, the inspector can call out an amount that turns out to be less than what the smuggler is carrying. In that case, the smuggler wins and gets a bonus.

Three, the inspector can call out an amount that turns out to be greater than or equal to what the smuggler is carrying. That's a win for the inspector.

But, finally, if the inspector calls out an amount and the smuggler is carrying nothing, that's a win for the smuggler, who gets a bonus of half the suspected amount.

This means that the inspector can always win by guessing $100k, IF the smuggler is carrying something. But this is the highest-risk approach if it turns out that the smuggler is carrying nothing.

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Thank you! That makes it perfectly clear now. I had just finished working out the possibilities on paper, then I read your comment and was like, "Oh, I could have waited a few moments and saved myself the mental exertion." Thanks again.

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Hi Lu
According to my subs and what JB says above:
If the inspector guesses an amount that is less than or equal to the amount in the bag, the smuggling is a failure.

If the amount guessed is more than the amount in the bag, the smuggler gets that amount plus 50% of what the inspector guessed.

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That's how I understood it as well and it makes more sense. What's not so clear to me is the other rule - "If the inspector guesses an amount that is less than or equal to the amount in the bag, the smuggling is a failure."

So if I'm the inspector and always say 1 won (or 50 000 won what was the lowest banknote I guess), then I always stop the smuggling, don't I? An in case of no money in the suitcase the penalty is minimal while I get the opponents money stay in my land... or am I missing something?

What would make more sense to me would be that the inspector gets the amount from the smuggled money he guessed. And that would give him motivation to guess higher amounts.

Actually, now when I'm thinking about it, what happens when the smuggling is a failure? The money return to the original bank? Or go to the inspector's account?

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I think the failed smuggling money goes to the inspector's account. It's a reward for successfully stopping the smuggling.

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“If the inspector guesses an amount that is less than or equal to the amount in the bag, the smuggling is a failure.”

I think the explanation was worded wrong.

It's not the inspector that guesses less than or equal to, it's if the smuggler is carrying less than or equal to the inspector's guess.

If the inspector guess the smuggler is carrying $50,000, but the smuggler is carrying $10,000, then the inspector wins. The smuggler was carrying less than the guess.

If the inspector guessed the smuggler was carrying $50,000, but the smuggler was carrying $100,000, then the smuggler wins.

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glad I found this.
I was reading the same thing over and over and wondering why it is different from the drama one.
you worded it right

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Oh, I think I'm lost now... why then DJ took MORE money than the leaked amount? Because then according this rule the smuggling would be a failure, because DY would "guess" LESS than the actual amount in the bag...

I guess I better stop thinking and just enjoy the ride :--))))

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"If the inspector doubts a higher amount than the actual amount in the briefcase(exluding $0), the inspector successfully stops the smuggling without paying a penalty."

DY, the inspector, guessed less. So, the smuggling is successful.

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Well, the rules are really unclear as I took this from the recap...

"If the inspector guesses an amount greater than what the smuggler is carrying, the smuggler gets to keep whatever money they were smuggling along with half the amount they were accused of."

"if they don’t smuggle any money, they’ll only gain compensation money"

Anyway, stopping now and going to prepare dinner :--)

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Hi :-) I think it's actually the other way around. Tiadebella above wrote a pretty good summary of the rules.

This is my summary:

if the case is empty and the inspector stops the smuggler, the smuggler gets a compensation fee of half the inspector's guess

if the case is empty and the inspector passes the smuggler, it's a draw.

if case has cash:

1.) if inspector guesses amount that is >/= the smuggled amount, the smuggler has failed and inspector receives the money inside the case as a reward.

2.) if inspector guesses an amount that is < than the smuggled amount, the smuggler is successful and also gets half of the amount the inspector guessed as a reward.

3.) the inspector passes the case, the smuggler succeeds, but no bonus.

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No, I think it's that if the inspector guesses the same amount or higher, he wins and gets half of the amount. So if the inspector guesses 50K and the smuggled amount is 45K, the inspector gets 22.5K. If he guesses lower, the smuggling is successful and the smuggler gets the amount that he smuggled out, plus half of the amount that he originally smuggled out. So if he successfully smuggled 50K, he'd get the 50, plus 25, so 75K in total.
At least, that's what I think it is.

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I love this show... Too bad it's only 12 episodes. I need more!!!! Or more shows like this. Any recommendations?

It is difficult to watch Do Young smugly crush all his opponents and grin like a maniac but what makes it all worth it is that I know what comes around goes around.

I did think he had some ploy going, like a listening device or something like that that allowed him cheating. But still, after that micro expression reveal and the strange expression of him being empty inside I'd be lying if I didn't think what if it's not metaphorical but he is like a robot or something? In that scene of him in front of the bathroom mirror I almost expected him to take of a mask.

What I don't get is how his teammates are so afraid of him to obey without argument. In the beginning they were deceived by his promise of more money but later when they realized he will use and throw away anyone, knowing that there are cameras everywhere and they are in the majority why do they give in to him and even give their cards? Because they are too stupid to win on their own and need his brains?

I love how Da Jung and Woo Jin change each other for the better and makes me more bummed that there is no romance. They'd be good for each other!

And that ending! Very strong for the penultimate week.

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Oh and thanks for the recaps Heads. I'm loving them and looking forward to them every week even though this is my first time commenting on this show.

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Hi Moonbean
If you are asking to know about shows that are less or not rom-coms but more in the crime-mystery-espionage nature, you might try City Hunter and Ghost 2012.

The others that are currently airing and come to mind (as not rom-coms) are Bad Guys and for a different feel, Misaeng which brings us intimately into the daily grind of office workers but which is filled with heart.

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Thanks for the recommendations. I actually watch mostly nothing but rom-coms. Unless it's something this good. But I'm not into crime type of stuff and don't like bloody things (heard that about Bad Guys). City Hunter and Misaeng are on my list and I will check the other one out.

I suppose what I mean is something clever and will keep you guessing without being bloody.

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have you watched Liar Games Japanese version? it's a different kind of good as compared to this but it also "keeps you guessing without being bloody"! I love both versions but the Japanese version has 2 seasons plus 2 movies to let you keep guessing! haha

otherwise, i've heard many people saying that Liar Game is very similar to Kaiji and 2-outs (both of which are mangas. but one of them has an anime and a movie if i'm not wrong, never really got around to reading/watching them! Liar Game is based on a manga as well, just so you know :D)

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oops sorry i meant one outs!!

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"What I don’t get is how his teammates are so afraid of him to obey without argument. In the beginning they were deceived by his promise of more money but later when they realized he will use and throw away anyone, knowing that there are cameras everywhere and they are in the majority why do they give in to him and even give their cards? Because they are too stupid to win on their own and need his brains?"

I think Do-young's level-1 plan was to use Woo-jin and the mole to threaten his own team members. He showed that he could easily smuggle money, while he would use Woo-jin and the mole to catch his team members when they tried to smuggle individually. That was the idea behind being late for a minute on that one occasion.
Of course, if he is going to do all the work, he has to use all the team's cards (but it's plain stupid to give them to him all at the same time). Main problem with this strategy is that they don't trust him, and once they are totally powerless, it is very easy for them to jump ship and turn to a more trustworthy person. It is almost like Do-young planned it that way.

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I think DY's teammates were so afraid of losing they gave up their cards to him because they didn't want to disappoint him. Later on, they listen to him because he threatened to destroy their cards if they didn't listen.

I would also recommend the Japanese Liar Game if you haven't seen it already. Also, there's a j-drama called Kurosagi, the swinder. This entire drama is about a character similar to Woo-Jin, a swindler who takes down corrupt companies. For k-dramas, I recommend Tazza, which is about swindlers too.

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Oh thank the gods the recap is here!! I've been restless since last night after watching episode 9 because I. JUST. REALLY. REALLY. HAVE. TO. DISCUSS. IT. And i don't know any place besides this site that caters to my drama deconstruction shit as well, in-depth, and comprehensive as Dramabeans. So thank you Heads! Really really thank you!

On to the drama: what the frack Jo Dal Goo?? What the hell do you think you're doing?

I think it’s safe to say (or speculate) that DG sided with DY in this round for the sake of DJ (it could be to earn enough money for her to forfeit the game cleanly and completely) but even that excuse is unacceptable, not to mention stupid, because that could very well be just the first step towards digging your own grave (and possibly WJ’s) in this game. That said, THAT REVEAL IS SO SO GOOD that I honestly didn’t mind DG’s betrayal (for a moment) if it’s in exchange of this kind of stupefying revelations. I’m sure this DG conflict will soon be over anyway, since we all know where his heart truly is (awww) so I’m not that worried about that/him.

DJ, on the other hand, is excruciating to watch during her first smuggling that I seriously questioned myself (and my soul and my existence) of why I love her in the first place. I honestly didn’t think she was that stupid in the past episodes. I firmly believe that she is just genuinely trusting and wants to see the best in every person. BUT. THAT. ACTING. BIT. OHMYGOOOOD. That’s clearly just plain stupidity on her part and no words can ever defend her on that scene in any way ever. Fortunately, she recovered tremendously and incredibly in the last few minutes of the episode and my love for her comes rushing back in. I love her impassioned speech to the East Nation and her indignant glare at DY right after.

That ending, though, is so so good that I started feeling antsy and impatient to be waiting for the next episode. Endings like that should be illegal.

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Gah, I want to discuss this so bad, but I've already seen episode 10 so that's going to colour every opinion I have. I will see you all in the comments section of episode 10.

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this is my problem right now too! I'm refraining from commenting because I watched ep 10 too and don't want to unknowingly spoil it. But omg it's so hard. I can't wait for the ep 10 recap to let everything out.

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Am I the only one who doesn't find Woo Jin swoon worthy? If you compare him to Kang Do Young, he's only okay.

I already really like Do Young because he was a new character but making him a mix of Yokoya from Season 1 and Katsuragi from Season 2 makes me really love him.

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Nope, he's also just okay for me mostly because Akiyama (and Shota's amazing potrayal) already ruined me.

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Lol! Akiyama ruined me too

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hahahaha he's like a totally different character, just with the same brains cuz he's doing things that Akiyama will never do. And unlike the Japanese version where I'm always super confident that Akiyama will have a strategy for a reversal, I'm not as confident with Woo Jin here (even though the games are the same and I know what the strategy is LOL).

but somehow i still find him swoon worthy. just not as much as Akiyama :P

and i totally agree with you about Do Young! and really love the background story they gave him (which also explains really well the reason behind Liar Game as well, something that the Japanese version never touched upon)

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I actually don't get what's so swoon-worthy about him, could be because I just don't find Lee Sang Yoon that attractive.

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I thought it really was obvious that Dal Goo was betraying them since he kept winning just like Do Young.

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I wish they played a new game just like the President's game, I already knew the outcomes of all the rounds since it was just the same in the Japanese version and I just ff all the scenes except for Do Young's and Jamie's.

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I haven't watched this episode yet, but the recap was great. I started reading it without remembering who the recapper was, and when I got to "Crazypants McGee" I was like, oh it's got to be HeadsNo2. Love your style, Heads, and thanks for the awesome recap!

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“It seems like people move money, doesn’t it?” Do-young asks. “Not so. Money moves people.” Having seen millionaires and paupers as an analyst, Do-young says they were all wrong in thinking that they owned the money. They were all moving as the money told them to."

Personally I think he has a point in his whole explanation.

Is this really only ten episodes, because I don't see how they can wrap up in just one more hour.

I read somewhere that Jamie's character in the original manga was a transvestite, that would have been an interesting story point I guess they decided not to go that way though.

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It's 12 episodes.
Yeah Jaime/Fukugana was originally a man turned woman. This worked well for the Round 2, the minority voting game since she had to pretend to be a man. I don't think Korea, a conservative nation, would have a transvestite on the show. It would have been controversial and viewers could have been lost as a result.

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Also, I am really confused with the game because I feel like there's a big loophole everyone is not seeing. It says in the rules that if the inspector-guessed amount is less than or equal to the actual smuggled money in the bag, the smuggling is deemed unsuccessful and the money goes to the inspector('s nation). If that's the case and if I were the inspector, in instances that I'm sure smuggling was done albeit not knowing the exact amount, I will just (extremely) low-ball my guess to ensure that it will be truly less than the actual smuggled money. Thus also ensuring my team's win.

I'm not sure if my understanding of the rules is right so please correct me if I'm wrong.

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No if the inspector guesses less than the actual amount, then the smuggling is successful and the inspector has to pay a penalty. The inspector can win by guessing more or equal to the amount.

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(Hi @red. My reply to your comment got posted on #17. Anyway, I just copied it below)

Really? I think it’s the other way around. I’m so confused right now. I also had to check Heads’s explanation of the rules:

“If what the inspector guesses is equal to the amount the smuggler has, then the smuggler fails and the money goes to the inspector as a prize. If the inspector guesses an amount greater than what the smuggler is carrying, the smuggler gets to keep whatever money they were smuggling along with half the amount they were accused of.”

Okay, for argument’s sake, let’s say what you said about the rule was the right one. Then in that case, if i were the inspector, I will just overestimate my answers or always call 100k dollars (the maximum) for when I know smuggling was really done. That way, all my guesses will always be equal to or greater than the smuggled money. Thus, my win. Right?

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Hi hawoojinruinedme ! (By the way, I loooove your name ^^)

I do think there was a mistake in the rules explanation and red is right. I actually commented on it a little below your comment, because I was also confused (maybe you will find some answers there ?).
That strategy has a big risk : if you always call "stop 100k dollars", then the smugglers would know it, and not smuggle anything, thus you will have to pay a penalty, which is half the amount you called (50k dollars). This amount is still high, so using this strategy when you don't really know if the other has money may result in you losing a lot as the inspector. But it's true that if you are 100% the other has money, then it's best to call the highest amount, and this strategy pays off in that case.
I hope I could answer your question :)

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Love ur name!

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Hi hawoojinruinedme and red
If the subs are right, then hawoojinruinedme has a point.

Guess less than amount = inspector wins
Guess same as amount = inspector wins
Guess more than amount = smuggler wins and gets 50% extra

However if the smuggler has an empty bag, then no matter how small the amount guessed, the smuggler wins 50% so the inspector will try to hit the exact amount or else pass.

This makes the ability to guess correctly many times in a row uncanny and makes it obvious that betrayal is in action. However, I cannot see how Do Young being right several times, followed by Dal Goo being right several times helps much in terms of accumulating money.

There must be another reason(s) for Do Young and Dal Goo to be helping each other win at guessing. I think among our Beanies comments there have been some good guesses about why already.

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"However if the smuggler has an empty bag, then no matter how small the amount guessed, the smuggler wins 50% so the inspector will try to hit the exact amount or else pass."

Actually the loophole I mentioned doesn't really cover this scenario. That loophole only works if the inspector is really sure that the smuggler's bag contains money. In case of empty bags, I guess low-balling also doesn't hurt because the inspector's team doesn't lose that much in case they have to pay penalty (of just 50% of the measly guessed amount.)

"However, I cannot see how Do Young being right several times, followed by Dal Goo being right several times helps much in terms of accumulating money.

There must be another reason(s) for Do Young and Dal Goo to be helping each other win at guessing."

Following that DG reveal at the epi's ending, it's become pretty clear that DG and DY had been working together in the game so far. It's not that big of a leap to also say that DG's doing this solely for DJ.

With regards to the "accumulating money" part, I think you're right. It looks like they're just exchanging smuggled money left and right with those rounds of DG and DY guessing. And no team's really leading that big from the other after all that smuggling rounds.

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If that’s the case and if I were the inspector, in instances that I’m sure smuggling was done albeit not knowing the exact amount, I will just (extremely) low-ball my guess to ensure that it will be truly less than the actual smuggled money. Thus also ensuring my team’s win.

If I'm understanding you correctly about the lowballing, I don't think that's a loophole, as such. Because the inspector still has to first decide/guess/figure out whether smuggling is being done or not, which is in keeping with the premise of the game. With someone like Da Jung, who can't lie to save her life, that may be easy to figure out, but you still have to figure it out somehow. The approach you're describing doesn't allow you to get around that, so it's not a loophole; a strategy, yes, but not a loophole.

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Oh, and the same with always guessing the max amount as you mention below (which I thought was a loophole as well, until the rules were more clearly explained to me). You still have to first reach a conclusion about whether the smuggler actually has money in their briefcase or not. If you decide that they do, but they actually don't, you stand to lose $50,000. That's a fairly big risk!

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thank you. I was going to comment a summarized version but then I saw your comment lol. Everyone but Heads had it the other way around lol. I was like 'but noo, heads is right!' haha ._.

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Thanks for the recap! I like how they portrayed Kang Do Young! But I think Kang Do Young must have planned this on purpose.... Although I admit it is a bit plain stupid that he claimed to have the ability to see through things that even dumbest people can even guess it is way impossible since Ha Woo Jin say he can fake feelings or emotions but can't read when they have the coin ... He might be trying to cause disturbance in the west country by making them suspect a traitor. I suspect it should be either Jamie or Dal goo. However, I find Dal goo more likely due to his protection for Da Jung which I think lah.... Jamie is still awesome!

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If anybody read the manga, the loophole is the design of the building.

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Spoilers! :-(

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It's ok. It's different in the drama.

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I am def. reading the manga once this drama is done then. It may also help with my withdrawal symptoms lol.

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The rules is much clearer told in the manga itself actuallu

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Really? I think it's the other way around. I'm so confused right now. I also had to check Heads's explanation of the rules:

"If what the inspector guesses is equal to the amount the smuggler has, then the smuggler fails and the money goes to the inspector as a prize. If the inspector guesses an amount greater than what the smuggler is carrying, the smuggler gets to keep whatever money they were smuggling along with half the amount they were accused of."

Okay, for argument's sake, let's say what you said about the rule was the right one. Then in that case, if i were the inspector, I will just overestimate my answers or always call 100k dollars (the maximum) for when I know smuggling was really done. That way, all my guesses will always be equal to or greater than the smuggled money. Thus, my win. Right?

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ok this show is sooo goood i dont understand why the rating is low and i cant believe only two more episodes left. season 2 please!!!!

i'll refrain myself from commenting about this episode because i already watched episode 10. don't wanna accidentally give spoilers but mannn if u say episode 9 is good, episode 10 is more than good.

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Oh my gosh this episode!!! Thank you for posting the review, I've been refreshing drama beans throughout today in hopes of seeing the Ep 9 recap posted. The show is so intense, and I absolutely need to discuss it, which drama beans is such a great avenue for.:D Pity can't get anyone in my real life circle to watch this. So thank you Heads!!

I was quite surprised by Woo Jin's lack of planning and organising, while it did occur to me that he was bidding his time and would come up with a shocking reveal (which did end up happening), his failure in the last round did keep me on edge, wondering if he really had lost his confidence regarding facing Do young. This show really keeps us in the dark, uncertain, I swear my heart hasn't stopped beating since it's premiered. Add Woo Jin brooding tall dark handsome attractiveness too, which still gets me so distracted.

I guess in that way it is lucky he took a brooding backseat for much of this episode, lets me actually concentrate on the game and plot. And oh my Do Young is one evil bastard. His dictation and the subsequent cowering of the his team is just, ruthless. I wonder if since he's the creator of the games, he's based these games around the same experiments he'd undergone in his childhood in Walden Two.

And what a creepy backstory that is. Its wonderful to have the backstory of a villain, really lets you get the big picture. So much more interesting than being evil for the sake of evil. here he have stakes, someone completely passionate, and madly so, about manipulating people with money. That Betrayal Game he put his team members through oh my, it was just so devious. Keeping everyone on edge and enjoying it so so much. Its terrible, but also exceptionally entertaining as an audience.

And the ending!!!! I was absolutely shocked when Woo Jin called out on Dal Goo, never in a million years would I have suspected that. Then it did all come crashing down, of course there had to be a mole. Of course someone had to be telling Do Young what the exact amounts was. Yet Do Young's creepiness and his questionable upbringing made me rank clairvoyance higher than a a betrayer on the believable list.

And I absolutely loved Da Jung's moment in the final scene. The steel in her eyes when she looked at Do young, if pure hearted Da Jung calls someone like Do young a bad person, something is just definitely wrong with him. Her total trust in Woo Jin though, its now getting me so anxious, when she does found out his connection to L company. You'd think she would forgive him, but this is a lot more personal than anything the contestants have done. I'm shaking just thinking about the reveal. So much for the elope for a romance. It would be awesome but at this rate it seems she'd only have time to forgive him, not fall in love. Damn drama and its pst making me desire romance.

Im not sure what to do with my life once this drama ends and there's not more Ha Woo Jin to stare at and intricate...

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Yes .Yes. YES to everything you said. DaJung shone this episode, with her unwavering trust in HWJ, and the way she just went head to head with KDY so brilliantly. I love this girl so much! And oh gosh I know what you mean I adore LSY (every blogpost i make has a like 30948932048 screencaps of his face), so this is going to give me severe withdrawal. I recommend watching Angel Eyes, where he is just the most perfect thing in the world. I just marathoned it and and in complete devastation that I can't marry this man xD

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Damn drama and its ost making me desire romance. Srsly, the song Mask is beautiful, so devastingingly romantic, been paying it non stop for a week now. Anyone with me on this? I just absolutely love it.

(continued) ... and intricate games to puzzle through and relevations to shock us. Think I might go have a cry now haha. Honestly, this is the most wonderful, well made show I've come across since Sherlock. If only there was a little more romance, it'd be perfect. Can't wait for Ep 10's recap!

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Yes please to the romance! I really hope we get a happy ending (with them together!)

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Heads, thanks for the recap. Really enjoying the show. Christmas wish : To find Kim So-eun wrapped in a bow. Talk about Yuletide cheer.

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Woo! I marathoned 8, 9 and 10! So exciting.

Actually, episode 8 and 9 weren't for me...

In episode 8, I was utterly disappointed in Ha WooJin. In the true/false game, WooJin lost solely because of his assumption that people can't control micro-expressions. Who said that, Ha WooJin, who?
In the first part, it was obvious that DoYoung was controlling his micro expressions. They repeated. And he threw out almost all the well known tell tale signs of lying, except for touching his hair. It was so obvious he was baiting. In the second part, WooJin was not listening. Do Young already said that he was going easy - ie.: He's gonna start blufffing. But WooJin didn't hear that. He just trusted his eyes that were being fooled. It's possible that DoYoung was going to pull a double-bluff, but he had tested WooJin with the earlier rounds and I guess he understood WooJin's block. Besides, DoYoung, with all his arrogance, would not give up a chance to embarrass WooJin. Thus, the odds were in favour of him pulling a bluff, meaning, showing a fake when it's true. And in the last round, Ha WooJin, that was not luck. When people fail multiple times, they're likely to gonfor the alternate. And in his desperation, Ha WooJin fell for that, leaving DoYoung to crowin victory.

In episode 9, Kang DoYoung's tactics didn't surprise me. It was his go-to method. Divide, leave them to fight, step in to take the easy prize. He works on the basis of planting seeds in people's head and not giving them complete information (and we all know that's when people start to do stupid things). Even Jo DalGoo's betrayal didn't surprise me. He's not even interested (much) in the money and his sole interest in this Game is Nam DaJung and this episode itself already gave the reason for his betrayal.

But! I loved Episode 10 and I actually felt nervous. Alas, this is not the recap for Ep 10, so no spoilers! But I think it's okay to say that I loved it because Kang DoYoung gets LIVID. And I crow in glee at Shin SungRok's acting. I have never seen such evil glee and rage in eyes. I didn't even blink when he was acting crazy on You From Another Star but my heart lurched at that last shot of him in ep 10. He is fantastic at this!

But I now have a problem. I'm supposed to sleep. I can't. I keep seeing those terrifying eyes...

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About ep8, I agree with you, Woo-jin was simply stupid there. He was given an easy opportunity to win by stochastic default by Do-young and threw it away because he failed add 2+2. When he needed one more coin to win, all he had to do was random picking on both ends (plain guessing on Do-young's turns and not looking at the coin at all when it was his turn). But Woo-jin seems to be really, really slow.

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Oooh, your last two paragraphs made me really look forward to episode 10!

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That last 5 minutes of this episode tho! WOW. DAEBAK!

This show might started slow but omg the last episodes especially 7, 8, 9 and 10 were just amazing! Aaahhh so great! Can't believe we're down to last two episodes next week. It's just getting better :( and can we some little romance puhlease

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I feel so deceived...holding out so long for Do Young to be ya know a misunderstood good guy. But he is evil, evil, evil. Okay...maybe psychotic and trained to be empty. And now the family relationships? Ah me!!!! K-drama what are you doing to me! Well, at least I could follow this particular game.

The background music in some of the scenes can be a bit overwrought though..

Thanks for the recap.

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I don't think he is psychotic. He is just your friendly highly-functional psychopath.

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This gave me Sherlock vibes xD

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@ Jon G.
"He is just your friendly highly-functional psychopath."

Yes, the same way a snake is friendly! LOL!

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Another great episode. The game kept me on edge. I kept thinking that Do Young must have had a listening device or something else that helped him. I thought he was using Jamie. She was the one always announcing the dollar amount to be smuggled while everyone else pretty much agreed with her. I thought maybe DY told her to act normally or whatever, but he still was able to use her secretly. I never suspected Dal Goo at all. That ending was a heartbreaking shocker.

I had to rewatch this episode a 2nd time. I’m very curious about when exactly did Dal Goo team up with Do Young. I tried to pinpoint it, but I honestly don’t know. Was it around the time of the tv interview or during their meeting in the game? (Or even earlier?! I doubt this tho.) Dal Goo was Do Young's first target when he became the inspector and they took some time to talk it out. And what is the reason behind Dal Goo’s betrayal???! It better be a good one. And I wonder when did Woo Jin discover the truth? There was a few signs of WJ's smirk and stares, but nothing really stood out to me at the time. I haven’t watched EP 10 yet cuz I didn’t want to rush into it. /savoringthisshowlol

The best scene was during the showdown between Do Young and Da Jung. I freaking loved Kim So Eun’s acting during that tense moment. I loved her strong and determined expression when she showed DY that he was beat. And how she stood up and warned the others about DY’s trickery.

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Thinking back on it now, I should have been suspicious of Dal Goo when he started guessing correctly each and every time against the other team.

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Lol. All of your questions will be answered in ep 10. LOL.

But I have to agree on the showdown between Do-young and Da-jung. Loved seeing a wider emotional spectrum on Da-jung because all we've seen is her kind and sympathetic side. I think only Do-young would be capable of pushing her buttons like that. Go DJ!

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@ ellabit
Speaking of range of emotions or a wider emotional spectrum,... it's true that strangely, although Da Jung, and even Woo Jin and Dal Goo are the leads, their characters are not all that well rounded and we are at the end of the show almost!!!

We only know a few things about Da Jung so far which we sort of knew from the beginning, but nothing much new has been added.

By comparison Do Young and Jamie have got a better chance to show range and development.

This show seems best appreciated as a focus on the game and on how the game is played, and character development if any is a by-product of how they decide to play the game. But even that seems pretty flat.

At least we have camaraderie and friendship even if all else fails.

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I honestly, don't know what I'm going ot do with my life once this show is over :(
Managed to get my thoughts down on this episode as well as a lot of character analysis. Can't wia tot see how it all plays out! https://anunstoppablesun.wordpress.com/2014/11/19/liar-game-episode-9-reversals-and-a-shocking-betrayal/

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I always hurt my head trying to understand the rule of the game, but it's exciting to see the twist and turn of every episodes. Can't believe the betrayer this time is Dal Goo. Although, I do hope this is another trick planned by the trio lead by Woo Jin. Shin Sung Rok really has a knack playing master villain but I don't want him to be typecast as a villain forever, hoping to see him take on roles in rom com instead. :D

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This was basically the North Korea/South Korea game. They even make a little joke about it when Dal Goo said, "Oh I get it! It's like East and West Germany right?" And Woo Jin responds, "You don't have to go that far."

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This drama has been fun. Really like it.

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I've watched the Jdrama so I wasn't surprised, but I couldn't help myself but cheering when Do Young finally got the wrong amount. And that expression on DJ face is an expression I want to see from her since the first time I watch this drama.

For Dal Goo, I think the reason why he betrays is a bit different from the Jdrama (I haven't watched eps 10 though). Maybe he was offered a 'help' from DY, and considering how manipulative our sexy villain can be, that will be a piece of cake to manipulate DG.

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Its getting better and better and better!

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Great episode! Please don't let Dal-goo be the betrayer!

Thanks for the recap!

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