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Kill Me, Heal Me: Episode 10

This is Se-gi’s episode. Snappy wardrobe improvement aside, things are getting seriouser and seriouser. We already knew there was pain at the root of Se-gi’s existence, but the catalyst of Ri-jin’s proximity and the recent events around Do-hyun bring the locked-up memories back to the surface.

With the thickening plot, a light is cast on the sins of the past, revealing more than one hand in covering them up. Se-gi’s endgame is more than just getting the girl, but while his desires are simple, are they also impossible?

EPISODE 10 RECAP

In Do-hyun’s dream, his child-self huddles in the basement playroom, but he smiles when a hand reaches towards him. Adult Do-hyun realizes that someone else was in the basement with him, and asks who it is. Child Do-hyun grips the hand and beseeches the figure not to go, to stay and play with him. They fall asleep together, hands clasped.

In the present, mirroring his dream, sleeping Do-hyun grips Ri-jin’s hand, and murmurs the same words.

They wake up facing each other, and Ri-jin asks him if he’s okay. Then her eyes widen, and she asks, “Shin Se-gi?” In a moment, he’s on top of her, demanding to know why she’s in Do-hyun’s bedroom. Trapped beneath him, she tells him about becoming Do-hyun’s secret doctor. Se-gi jumps to the conclusion that her job is to get rid of him.

He drags her out by the wrist, determined not to leave her at Do-hyun’s side, but she argues that she’s here as an arbiter so he and Do-hyun can work things out. Temper flaring, he says that this can only end if one of them disappears, and she can’t choose them both. “Would you like me to disappear?” he asks her. Cupping her hands over his, she says it’s not her choice to make.

“You’ve completely fallen for Cha Do-hyun,” he says. Does she really believe his intentions are innocent? Se-gi leaves her with the laptop containing his video message to Do-hyun.

She follows Se-gi instead, and he tells her that since Do-hyun broke the “rule,” he’ll have to punish him. He explains that Ri-jin is Do-hyun’s hostage, so he can both protect his woman, and threaten Se-gi. It’s funny that he’s not exactly wrong.

He sweeps out and Ri-jin chases him down and slips. On her knees, she begs him to tell her what he’s planning. He cryptically replies that he’s going to ruin Do-hyun’s world — so much that he can never clean it up: “So that he’ll hide and never come back, I’m thinking of punishing him thoroughly.”

He turns away, and Ri-jin clutches him in a hug. “Let’s go together,” she tries. He breaks out of her grip. “If you’re not going to have me, don’t touch me,” he tells her. He locks her in and leaves in the red Ferrari.

Ri-jin returns to the laptop, and gasps at the video of Se-gi warning Do-hyun not to mess with his woman. Ri-jin looks up Chae-yeon’s address, and Chief Ahn arrives. Ri-jin assigns the chief to stay at the apartment in case of Se-gi’s return. She takes to the road, with a good idea of where he went.

Chae-yeon’s reception of her engagement ring from Ki-joon is subdued. He sweetly apologizes for his reaction to the rumors, and for putting his reputation before her feelings. He puts the ring on her finger with a happy smile.

Later, she walks Ki-joon to his car. He spots the red Ferrari but doesn’t see Se-gi. Immersed in the shadows, Se-gi watches Chae-yeon go inside.

Chae-yeon’s phone rings, and she eventually answers what she thinks is Do-hyun’s call. She tells him she’s engaged to Ki-joon and he shouldn’t call again. Undeterred, Se-gi pulls her strings, telling her he misses her and wants to meet. She continues to be brusque, but is freaked out when he notes that she’s alone, since Ki-joon just left.

Her doorbell rings and Se-gi goads her to open it — it might be Ki-joon. Although she can’t see anyone, she opens the door anyway, only to be greeted by Se-gi. Note to readers: Don’t try this at home, seriously.

She tells him to leave, and reminds him of his (i.e. Do-hyun’s) warning to avoid him if he crossed the line. Se-gi is mildly impressed by Do-hyun’s forethought. Seeing her engagement ring, he muses that he wanted to put it on her, and Chae-yeon wears a caught expression.

He barges his way in in the name of wine, and the door clicks shut behind them.

Ri-jin parks up behind Se-gi’s car, and catches him coming out of Chae-yeon’s house. He doesn’t tell her what happened. Shrugging off her grip again, he heads to his car. She points him to her car — no, not the driver’s seat — and he complies with the enthusiasm of a sullen teenager.

She demands to know what happened with Chae-yeon. His answer, to use her imagination according to how much she trusts him, frustrates her. But he’s made his point. He tells her that the mad curiosity she feels about not knowing what he’s been doing is exactly how he feels about her and Do-hyun. And she betrayed his trust, he adds. I just noticed how much lower Se-gi’s voice is than Do-hyun’s.

Ri-jin is tired of his games, and asks him what it will take him to stop. Looking her in the eye, he says, “Instead of me, kill Cha Do-hyun.” She doesn’t even have that level of ability, she replies.

They’re met at home by an anxious Chief Ahn, and Se-gi chides him for not recognizing him. Chief Ahn suggests Ri-jin stay elsewhere for the night, but she declines — she and Se-gi have things to talk about.

Pouring himself some wine, Se-gi tells her that if she stayed in the hope of Do-hyun returning, she’ll be disappointed. “That jerk is never coming back. The seal to his memory has been broken,” he elaborates. Ri-jin asks if he knows about the year’s worth of missing memory. “Of course,” he replies, “because I was born to cope with them.”

Following a hunch, she asks if she is in them. He promises to tell her only if she chooses him. Ri-jin explodes. Is he stupid? She already told him she doesn’t have that ability, but he replies that the longer she delays in choosing him, the more he will ravage Do-hyun’s world.

She sleeps on Do-hyun’s couch, and a blanket is drawn over her. She opens her eyes, and asks, “Cha-gun?” He responds, “Yes, I’m Cha Do-hyun.” Oh no, this is too suspicious. That look in his eyes is too calculating. She was worried he was gone, and she tells him she can’t handle Se-gi. He thanks her for what she’s done so far.

The next morning, Se-gi pulls up at Chae-yeon’s house as she comes out. She’s startled by his full Se-gi glory, all sharp wardrobe and styled hair. But he’s only here to collect his car, and tells her he’ll be back tomorrow for the other one.

At the company, Ki-joon is disturbed to see Se-gi come out of the same car he saw outside Chae-yeon’s house the night before.

Se-gi’s edgy look turns heads all morning, and he plucks hearts left and right, while captions (“an uncommonly handsome man”) follow him. Hahahaha. He makes himself comfortable in Grandma Seo’s office, and greets dead Grandpa’s portrait from her chair, a cynical smile on his face.

Secretary Ri-jin and Chief Ahn scour the company looking for Do-hyun. A run-in with Ki-joon’s secretary makes them realize that it’s Se-gi in the driver’s seat, not Do-hyun.

Se-gi flips boredly through a presentation, legs resting on the table…in the middle of a staff meeting. Lol. Ri-jin and Chief Ahn burst in, and since Se-gi won’t leave quietly, they end up wheeling the recalcitrant VP out by the chair.

In the corridor, Se-gi fumes. He throws off Ri-jin’s arms, telling her not to touch him. Annoyed with his repeated anti-touch tirades, she puts her hands aaalllll over him while he flails, but Chief Ahn restrains her with the reminder that they’re at the office.

This puts Se-gi back in control. He points out that here, he is VP Cha Do-hyun, and he has a meeting to attend. He wheels himself back in. He’s such a teenager, ha. Chief Ahn tells her Se-gi’s right — the meeting is mandatory so he has to attend. He’s interrupted by a call from Do-hyun’s mom, inquiring after Ri-jin.

The staff meeting is properly under way, headed by Ki-joon. Se-gi is so focused on making notes that he doesn’t notice Ki-joon addressing him. Chief Ahn, hovering nearby, looks over Se-gi’s shoulder, and LOL his “notes” are variations on “Oh Ri-jin ♥ Shin Se-gi" and cusses against his cousin. Hahaha. Chief Ahn hurriedly disposes of it.

Ki-joon asks Se-gi if he's found Omega. Se-gi has no idea what that means ("Do I even have to catch tuna for you now?"), but Chief Ahn interjects that the film rights have been secured, and signed off on by the mystery writer himself.

Ki-joon grudgingly acknowledges his efforts, but tells him the production will now be turned over to someone else. “How cheap,” Se-gi shoots. He accuses Ki-joon of using him, and asks if he isn't ashamed to openly cast him off like this, now that he's got what he wants.

The rest of the employees gape, but Ki-joon doesn’t rise to it. He simply repeats that the other manager will now head the production. But Chief Ahn reports that Omega’s contract condition was that Do-hyun remain in charge of it.

But in his office later, Ki-joon loses his temper with his secretary (who’s impressed by Do-hyun’s puppy-to-hyena transformation) and has a fit of fury on his own.

Se-gi wonders to Chief Ahn how Do-hyun can be such a fool as to take being put down all the time. Chief Ahn schools him on “responsibility” — unlike him, Do-hyun endures what he must to take care of what he has to protect. Se-gi snarks that the chief and Do-hyun sure are a match made in heaven, but it’s a shame since Do-hyun’s never coming back.

Se-gi notes that he hasn’t seen Ri-jin for a while, and Chief Ahn says she’s meeting with his mom. The news causes Se-gi to seize the chief by the lapels, furiously demanding to know where she is and what the hell he was thinking in putting them together. He storms away after her.

At a restaurant, Do-hyun’s mom gifts Ri-jin a handbag. Although she doesn’t want to accept it, Mom makes her snip the label off and forces her to keep it. She admits it was a bribe, and asks after her son.

Remembering Do-hyun’s nightmares, Ri-jin asks Mom about his year of missing memories, and whether anything bad happened to him then. Mom shifts in her seat and says nothing happened.

Ri-jin then asks if he had a close friend his age when he was younger, and now Mom is really rattled. But she’s saved (or not) by Se-gi’s arrival. He barks at Ri-jin to get up, and before he drags her out, turns to Mom in warning, “Don’t call her out again.” After he leaves, Mom panics at the thought that he might have remembered everything.

Se-gi deposits Ri-jin in his car. She can’t understand why he’s so angry, and tells him his mom must be lonely and in pain. Se-gi, his voice rough with his own pain, spits back, “In pain? Lonely?” Should he take off her mask, he asks, and reveal what kind of woman she is?

“At the scene of abuse, where a person’s soul was being fragmented, there are three types of people. Victim, assailant…and bystander. If just one of those three were absent, the bad thing wouldn’t have happened.”

Ri-jin processes the confession of abuse with horror, while Se-gi continues. “That woman was a bystander. Using that [knowledge] as a weapon, she has survived in Seungjin. Even now, she orders them around under its threat. But could I love that woman?” he asks Ri-jin, struggling to contain his feelings.

Ri-on does some indoor rock-climbing with his editor, but his mind is elsewhere. He puts together all the pieces of his research, along with his encounters with Do-hyun and his various alters, until he figures something out. Ri-jin echoes in his head: “What if it happens against his will?” Her connection to Do-hyun, her job as his private doctor…a man she likes — it all resolves into a picture he doesn’t like at all.

Se-gi and Ri-jin arrive back at his apartment, and he orders her to pack up — they’re leaving. But she asks him why he keeps quiet, when he knows what the missing memories are. He’s slow to answer, and without meeting her eyes, he says, “That bastard can’t handle it.”

Ri-jin disagrees — Do-hyun can handle it. “Then we will die!” Se-gi shouts, “We were made to take his pain for him. If his pain goes away, all of us die.” His ultimatum to Ri-jin finally makes sense: Either Do-hyun carries on living like he has been, or Se-gi lives instead of him. It can only be one or the other.

She repeats her earlier question to him. The memories which he has, that Do-hyun doesn’t — is she in them? He doesn’t answer.

The doorbell rings, and Ri-jin is surprised that it’s Ri-on. Taking her by the hand, he tells her they’re going home. Ignoring her objections, he sticks her into his car and threatens to tell everyone at ID Entertainment that Do-hyun has DID if she leaves it. She’s shocked that he knows. He tells her that now he knows about the dangerous situation, he can’t leave her there, so she should just do as she’s told.

“Are you even her real brother?” Se-gi asks, arriving on the scene. “Cha Do-hyun?” Ri-on asks. The two men face off, and Ri-on clocks that this isn’t Do-hyun. Se-gi wonders how many people have caught on to their secret.

Ri-on informs him that he’s taking his sister back, but Se-gi demands to know on what authority he’s doing so. “As her brother,” he replies. Se-gi threatens to take his eyes out if he carries on claiming a brother’s rights while looking at her with the eyes of a man. Ri-on remains unruffled. He tells Se-gi that he has even less right. In his ear, he finishes, “Because you are Seungjin Group’s son.”

His words root Se-gi to the spot. As they drive away, his eyes well up and his face contorts with pain.

In the car, Ri-jin asks what he said to Se-gi to make him look so sad. Ri-on is too angry to engage in their usual camaraderie. Arriving home, he instructs his sister to ask their parents’ forgiveness. He also tells her not to mention either Do-hyun’s name or Seungjin’s.

The family have company already. Dr. Seok regales the parents with proud stories of their daughter, who comes in right on cue.

After her confession, Ri-jin is all contrition. But her parents are still disappointed that she lied to them (and Mom tries to beat her with a pineapple, LOL), and even more shocked to find that Dr. Seok also knew. They deplore her for not trusting them, but Dr. Seok explains that it was because she had to keep the patient’s secret. He tells them that he’s ashamed of trying to dissuade her, when she followed her conscience as a doctor, and asks them to forgive her this time.

Ri-on burns the midnight oil looking through his Cha family scrapbook. He sighs that Do-hyun hasn’t, in fact, been living happily all this time, “Seeing how your heart has been broken to pieces.”

Ri-jin joins Dr. Seok for late-night snacks and thanks him for his support earlier. He asks about Do-hyun not coming back. She tells him that Se-gi said he went into hiding when the seal to his memory broke, but Dr. Seok doesn’t know what it means either. Ri-jin thinks the key to the memory is in the last nightmare he had.

She worries that he really might not return. Dr. Seok thinks there’s a possibility that when the seal broke, there was some kind of exchange between them. Either Do-hyun will come back stronger, or Se-gi will overpower him and stay in control.

Se-gi watches himself in the mirror, and Dr. Seok continues in voiceover: The most important thing for Do-hyun is how he’ll deal with the pain of his memories. “All we can do is trust him and wait,” he finishes.

“Are you there, Cha Do-hyun?” Se-gi asks his reflection. It’s time to deal with the past, he tells him. The people who made him into a monster can’t be let off. “Shall I do it, or will you? If you want to do it, come out. You can’t?” This scene is cut so hauntingly. If he can’t, then he should just stay crumpled up and never come back, he tells his distorted image. But a tear rolls out, belying his angry words.

He leaves the bathroom, and all that remains is an empty reflection.

Grandma Seo enters her dark office and is shocked by Se-gi’s presence. Se-gi tells her he was only doing what she said, “Like a night robber, making no sound. Living quietly as if I didn’t exist.” She’s suddenly fearful, and with that sharp smile, he asks if she remembers. He muses that everyone thinks he’s lost his memories — as if they hoped for it.

She asks him what he wants. Seungjin Group, he says. “Give it to me, Grandmother.” He tells her that waiting for her son to wake up is futile, and picks up his portrait. Grandma is frantic to retrieve her precious picture from him and they scuffle.

He purposely drops it, and to her distress, it shatters. Her usual ire returns and she raises her hand to hit him, but he blocks her easily. Se-gi offers to end her lingering attachment for her, and fear fills her face.

Se-gi drives furiously, and arrives at his father’s bedside. All we can see is Se-gi’s twisted reflection until he settles by his father.

Stroking his face, he tells him he shouldn’t have saved him back then, seeing how he’s in a coma now. “I became a monster because of you, father. Should I…let you rest peacefully?” His hand moves ominously towards a valve.

From deep inside, a disembodied voice asks why he’s being disturbed: “I’ve suffered so much.” Is Do-hyun back? With tears on his face, his hand touches his father’s cheek. “Father…” he sighs.

COMMENTS

Was seeing his assailant’s face the trigger Do-hyun needed to wake up?

This episode, we arrive at the inherent contradiction of their existence — the Harry Potter dilemma, “neither can live while the other survives.” The consequence of Do-hyun dealing with his pain and achieving wholeness is an automatic death sentence to the alters, the way Se-gi sees it. He can only survive if he maintains the status quo: Though they all live half-lives, at least they live. It makes sense that this affects Se-gi the most deeply, because as we’ve seen before, his desire to live — to exist — is the most intense. While abstract arguments can be used that they’ll live on in Do-hyun’s heart, to Se-gi, those are only euphemisms for oblivion and the end of his external existence.

What is striking and unexpected is how profoundly Se-gi is affected by the contradiction, because he wants both things — not only his survival, but also Do-hyun’s healing. It’s a conflict Do-hyun doesn’t experience, because he sees the alters as little more than symptoms — secondary existences that cause problems in his real world, where he is the primary agent. While it’s not unnatural that he sees it that way, it makes him unable to really engage with Se-gi or understand his anguish.

In the mirror scene near the end, Se-gi’s battle of hope and despair against Do-hyun is stark and powerful. He wants him to come out and fight his fight, he dares him. Mixed in with the anger, there’s a thread of hope, but it’s overpowered by precedent. Do-hyun has never stayed to fight. But you get the feeling that if only he would, Se-gi would be his first cheerleader, even when it comes at the risk of his own existence. What he can’t bear is (what he considers) Do-hyun’s weakness.

Ri-on brought home to Se-gi how trapped he is in Do-hyun’s life. Even if Do-hyun ceased to exist, Se-gi has to live in his world using his name. And his inescapable fate in Cha Do-hyun’s body is with Seungjin and those responsible for their abuse — principally Grandma Seo and his mom. I’m not surprised by Grandma’s role, especially given her unhealthy obsession with her son, but I was surprised that Mom was also an enabler. Both are unforgivable, but Mom’s betrayal is worse. Circumstances seem to point to his dad as the main perpetrator, and, ugh, that’s so… chilling and sad. But from a writing point of view, it’s a little odd that neither Ri-jin nor Dr. Seok would have suspected childhood abuse already, as it’s one of the key causes of dissociative disorders. But I guess this is dramaland, so let’s go with it.

Like Ri-jin, I believe that present Do-hyun can deal with his past. His main obstacle is that his subconscious mechanism to dissociate kicks in reflexively, faster than he can consciously work through his distress. We’ve had some small glimpses of him holding on to his consciousness for short periods, so it’s possible, but he’ll have to pull out all the fire and determination he can muster if he wants to stay present.

But Se-gi’s not actually bad. He’s reckless and immature, and Ri-jin brings out all his sides. He goes from debonair to dangerous in a flash, but he’s much more innocent (and breakable) than he pretends — that glass of wine with Chae-yeon was probably exactly that. There’s a childlike aspect to the way he leads Ri-jin along by the hand all episode. Instead of dominance, it felt more like it was about reassurance. By the same token, he lacks a useful working knowledge of how to live (and work) as a functional adult, which makes him as inexperienced at life as Yo-na or Yo-sub. He’s Do-hyun’s mirror and opposite: emotionally tough, but not emotionally mature. It’s also reflected in his tendency to see the world in black and white: with me or against me, hurting me or helping, and his assumption that his view is the only view.

I missed crazy Ri-on this episode, but since half of it is hyperbole anyway, it’s not bad to see him shed it and step up as the deadly serious brother. I feel like his parting words to Se-gi carry a double edge, implying that either there is some kind of taboo family relationship (unlikely to be a blood one, though), or that the Seungjin family is responsible for the forgotten trauma in Ri-jin’s past, or indeed both. Se-gi’s reaction — his sense of guilt — and the mounting evidence that she is the other child in his basement, says that he isn’t wrong.

I hope Ri-on’s tacit admission of unbrotherly feeling doesn’t force him into the second-lead role (especially when he doesn’t have a chance). It would add an unnecessary layer of angst and drag the show to mediocrity. This show excels in focusing on interesting conflicts, and it’s much more interesting for the story and his character to maintain the current tension. But it feels like Hwang Jung-eum is beginning to overdo things. The needless exaggeration detracts from the natural gravitas she brings to Ri-jin’s serious side, which is more fundamental to her character, so I hope she tones it down a bit.

Ah, but I can’t choose between them either, because this week I missed Do-hyun. Can’t we keep both of them? Or… all of them?

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Thank you very much for the recap Saya!

The way Shin Se Gi hold his eyes open wide as he fights back his tears while when RO drives Ri Jin away and she watches him disappear in the mirror really tugged my heartstrings :( ~~~

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mine tooo..one of most heartbreaking moments so far

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That was really powerful and I liked it when Fanderay used it as kolor palette! Ji sung is amazing in his portrayal.

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yeah..as much as I love all those funny moments of the characters, the real reason why this drama is very dear to me is because there is heart to it than just acting. Ji Sung and Hwang Jung Eum there is not themselves but they are totally into their characters.

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well said Dana..I second that ^__^

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+1

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Lmao "seriouser and seriouser"..couldn't agree more.

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I second that, hope that its not getting darker...*tears

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this show is KILLING ME!!!!!!

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Hahaha ok this comment cracked me up! XD Thanks, I haven't laughed for a while, but thank you for making me laugh.... is that a strange thing to say by the way?

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oh you're welcome :)

this show is killing me in a sense that i can't stop thinking about it.
constantly i'm checking dramabeans to see if they posted the recap or i'm reading soompi threads.
am i the only one?

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nope you are not, been stalking to soompi, allkpop, koreandrama.today, thetalkingcupboard and soon...I cant concentrate on my work nowadays...dem you show...LOL

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Me too :) I guess we all are under the spell of this wonderfully-written drama :)

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huhuhu..its true Aria...never felt this way before to any other drama

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Are you experiencing symptoms of ...can't eat, can't sleep, reach for the stars kind of things? Hehe definitely you're bewitched by KMHM illness

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yeaah Aoi, I'm even counting the days, the hours until the next show...but when the final moment has arrived to watch it...I'm a little bit scared inside...my oh my..I'm dying inside...is it normal?? maybe I'm already on the edge of self deprivation state...LOL

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I have been watching raws and I can't sleep if I dont. Its okay that we are just too addicted to the show. ?

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Kathy I was just about to say that and saw your comment. It is killing me!!! I feel of Segi.... And I'm dying to know what Ri On meant! Did he say that because Segi could be related to Ri Jin OR because Segi is where Ri Jin should be and she is the rightful heir???

Kathy you're not the only one! I've been lurking here and Soompi as well. Very interesting theories there!

Thanks for the great recap Saya!

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That's what I thought too.

1) It's because they could be related (which would be the obvious conclusion, seeing as he (Ri On) just backfired Se-Gi's comment about Ri On looking at his "sister" like a lover while in fact Se Gi does the same.

2) It's because of what happened with Ri Jin. Obviously his family abused Ri Jin or harmed her or whatever, because she had memory loss too. And that#s why he meant it. But the first one is the more fitting, because even we viewers question it.

Are they related, are they not? Obviously, the answer is no, because then the producers would have never gone as far as letting them kiss already. This probably will be an issues once they find out they are presumabely from the same family (there always is a "break up" before the last make up in K-dramas right?) and torn them apart.

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"If you're not going to have me, don't touch me!" I'll have you Oppa! I'd gladly volunteer for that job ?
Jokes aside, I'm still loving this show! I love how each of the reveals whets my appetite for more. Looking forward to finding out exactly what the great big bad is. I'm sure there will be tears...

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you calling Ji Sung oppa reminded me I can also call him oppa, and it's such a hard thing to do these days with all these 90-ers ugh!!! Very comforting to know Ji Sung and I still have 10 years between us and I can safely call him Oppa!!
Opppaaa~~~

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Couldn't agree more.. how can i call healer-nim oppa when he is indeed 3 yrs younger than me.. so yes i can call jisung oppa.. haha

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Fortunately, I can still call healer-nim oppa, not most of the idols these days though. Haha. Don't kill me.

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Lol. So true. Worse, some of them look mature that you'd think they're an oppa...only to have your heart crushed later once you find out they're younger by years.

At least now, we can dreamily look up to Ji Sung oppa in peace, knowing yes, he's an oppa. XD

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"If you’re not going to have me, don’t touch me!"

UNF.

I'll be in my bunk.

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Se Gi is such an interesting character.. He is Do Hyun's biggest helper (by taking his pain) and somewhere he I wants Do Hyun to rise above his weakness. But if it happened he would not exist. I feel his pain. I would really miss his character. So I hope we get to see more Se Gi in Do Hyun before we end.

The hilarious beats in this episode were totally making me lol. I didn't think they would make "don't touch me, if you won't have me" line (which by the way was hot!) to what it became in the office.

And I think the doctors probably didn't ask about abuse because it's known that his father saved him? I'm also surprised they never explored that during his treatment.

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The "don't touch me if you won't have me" line was SO hot!

And then I went from fanning myself to snorting with laughter when he wheeled himself back into the meeting like a bratty teenager.

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haha..he said he must go back to work in that scene but he wasn't really working in there :) he only made notes about his love for Oh Ri Jin.
Luckily, Sec Ahn didn't burst out laughing when he saw that..hahaha!!!

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Ji Sung just completely put himself into a class way above others with this show. His acting is just on the spot! The weaving between heart tugging and funny is also perfect, way to go, writer nim!

I also wish Ri Jin didn't seem surprised about DH being abused as a child, isn't that pretty obvious with DID? But I'm still on the fence on who exactly abused him? Cause from the conversation btwn grandma and herself (haha!) I thought the dad saved him?

Also, as much as Se Gi is rough, I notice that he doesn't pull Ri Jin on her wrist, but always holds her hands instead. Also, no matter how angry he is, he still manages to make sure RJ doesn't bump her head on the car when he drags her from conversation with his mom. Rich chaebol first lead in other dramas could learn a thing or two from him.

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I noticed that head-shielding movement he did too! It was so adorable that even in his het-up state he still makes sure that she doesn't hurt herself. I hadn't noticed the lack of wrist/arm-grabbing, but I will look for it from now on.

Man, the more I watch this show and the more comments I read, the more I realize that Ji Sung really has put SO much thought into each of these personalities. His hard work and dedication has really paid off!

You're so right about other first leads learning a thing or two from our Se Gi-ah. I'd LOVE it if they retired the Korean Man Arm Grab™ from dramas forever (or if every time they did it, the heroine stepped HARD on their insole).

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I think probably he save him from the fire..

And the answer for the next question is..
For the holding hand part, I think it is Segi's habit with Nana. They always hold hands when they show flashback..

For the car part, I think it's just Jisung's habit because he always do that. Secret also the same action when he pull her into the car... *soft voice*

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That hand shielding moment stood out for me as well. Segi may be brusque but he's still DoHyun deep down and therefore also gentle. He's not a bad person he's just in pain....I bet that could be Ji Sung adding his own touch to the scene. I am so in awe of Ji Sung in this drama. Especially when I see behind the scene clips. He's a genius in interpreting his character and executing that interpretation! He continuously goes beyond any kind of expectation I have. Episode 10 is perhaps one of the best episodes I've seen so far....but then again all episodes after episode 2 are pretty amazing!

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I'm late to reply but I'm pretty sure it's a habit of Ji Sung because he does it too in Secret. I didn't noticed in Kill Me Heal Me, but I noticed in Secret.

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child abuse... hate it. i can get it why se gi thinks
his mom has as much right to be lonely as a shark waiting for his prey. thanks, saya, good recap.

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Thank You Saya. I feel sooo bad for Sin Se Gi. However, Shin Se Gi look Sooo HOT!!!!!I am still waiting Nana and Mr. X.

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This is a good recap, Saya, but I disagree on one point...I'm not at all sure the father was the abuser. I am certain I remember the father saving him being mentioned on a few occasions.

It's bound to be something tied up with the existence of the sister-in-law (who became adopted into the family, as well, instead of the other brother?) and that child she brought back with her from the states, and the grandfather dying in the car accident with the daughter-in-law.

I'm not sure why they hid him away, but I think the hiding was the extent of any physical abuse, although there'd have to be significant emotional abuse in that situation as well.

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My guess is he ironically says that because as a result of his father saving him, he ended up being hidden, locked up, abused, a fate much worse than death.

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I think it may be Joon Pyo or Jun pyo's idea of saving him is to lock him up instead of throw him in one island?

The perpetrator could be more than one person or it could be Grandma herself. We can see that Grandma actually know the existence of Segi (except that she think he is Dohyun) but Segi hates her too.

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I think SG said that everyone wanted him to be hidden. Maybe that was the abuse. They were embarrassed about the illegitimate child and had him hidden away in the basement. It might not feel bad to an adult but to a kid it would be torture. And if he remained there for days/months it would have triggered SG to be created .

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lots of good points/theories in this thread but i want to add, an adult locked alone in a basement is absolute torture/abuse. albeit they might be able to last longer before a mental break than a child could but there's been studies proving that any human being that undergoes severe and prolonged isolation (in the form of solitary confinement or the like) is at a high risk for depression, suicide, a total breakdown of reality, brain damage etc etc. since he lost a year of his memories i'm actually scared that he was locked up there for a YEAR which is so awful that his mind shattering into 7 diff personalities makes a world of sense. (funny how such an absurd premise turned out to have a pretty strong internal logic to it)

and if Se Gi is the one who knows everything, and has had to feel everything that Do Hyun didnt have to feel i can see why he'd be bitter as fuck about having to "go away" when he's the one whose been fighting all this time but i think a part of him is also exhausted too and sad and i think se gi/dohyun becoming a Whole instead of fragments would give Se Gi peace at last and Do Hyun the strength he needs to fight and face his abusers head on.

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yeah. I want to see a fighting Do Hyun. It would be awesome. I think I will miss Segi a lot (his immature traits and comedic moments) but I think it is nice to see himself finally reconcile with his dark past. GAH!!

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And totally forgot to add (haha I really have too much to say about this show) I realized how deep/low Se Gi's voice was compared to Do Hyun in this episode too. I'm amazed with Ji Sung's acting!

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Yes, the deep voice ans sharp stare make me his totally different person! This is real impressive acting! Well gone Ji Sung!!

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It's his Batman voice.

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"I'm the personality Do Hyun needs."

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BWAHAHA @KimNana

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haha hilarious xD

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JiSung does different voices and tones for each personality! Which makes it even more fascinating to watch in my opinion. Super amazed at how much he's show-casing his acting abilities in this drama.

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yes! his perry park alter is def the best one cuz i feel like he could do it for a whole episode with no issue haha. (that saturi is amazing!)
perry park and ahn yo na funtimes power hour needs 2 be a thing.

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And when Perry Park said, "aigoooooo!!!" Patting Ri Jin's back with relief that she's okay. But that was for another episode..... I just can't help but mention with this comment. He nailed the old lady personality! But then again he's rocking in all of them!

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Existance
We never knew how important something before it will leave us
Like how do hyun wish and se gi wish to just spend just little longer moment with ri jin
A woman who accept and helps him (dh)
A girl with bad memory but now can live happily (sg)
If it just about love and protect the one you love i understand se gi
He appear after meeting ri jin, he need to keep blocking the horrible memory of dh and ri jin if dh wasn't ready
So he need to protect them by put dh to sleep and be with ri jin
But his desire as long lost unaccepted child is awaken
Like talking to dh "I have done my share so now you serve your time too "
But he knew, deep down dh need to face it
They have to understand each position
As much as i want dh to appear again.
I can't send se gi back like that too.......

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I read this really fast, and thought you had written that SG wants DH to sleep with RJ, which, is prolly true, too.

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hahaha.... I see that now
well, but generally, it is do hyun's body right?

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aaaaaah it is here. thank goodness I don´t have to hold back spoilers in other threads like I am constipated

Last time, all the alters except Se Gi gave us laughs, swoons, mystery, wackiness and bittersweet confessions

This time, Se Gi gives us the laughs and mystery and bittersweet and swoons for all of them.

But dear guys, make up and live happy! I don´t want neither to disappear, cause I don´t like a world without either of you.

The office scene just rocked. I think it is the first time ever I care about office hijinks.

Se Giiii you big kid, please TRUST Ri Jin! you will not be abandoned.

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who the f cleans his coat tho... not like he has a personal servant. in the first ep it was covered in blood. I want that supercleaner.

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ah and just so you know, I stole the original red coat. heh thats why he wears black later.

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and, and: several times this episode and some times before I felt like Se Gi actually does care about Do Hyun.
I call some of his cool and threats a bluff. as much as there is a certain amount of Se Gi in Do Hyun, there is also some DH in Se Gi. And that´s why he cannot possibly go all the way. just like a teen that just makes threats but actually has no idea what to do.

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Hmm..are there also multiple personalities of redfox? :D

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yes

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you bet!

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LOL...LOL...LOL

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This was hilarious!

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It took so long to get to the plot, these 10 episodes were just Do Hyun and Ri Jin going around in a circle

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With lip gloss and animal ear PJs!

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Hehe...if it wasn't a circle, it'd have been a two episode special. :D

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I think it seems like that because we basically have to deal with 5 alters (for now) and transition from strangers to secret psychiatry treatment to loveline. I'm enjoying every bit of the interaction, except the super big secret that's been dragging 10 episodes long.

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I think the plot was how Do Hyun has developed his 7 alters and how he can reconcile all of them. The secret is but an incident that is used by the story to show us how Do Hyun will accomplish this reconciliation. I think it's pretty smart how the writer is doing this.

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Goodness! The scene with Segi crying was perhaps my favorite moment of this episode. And I was wondering about the full implications of the words that Rion whispered in his ear. (As an aside, I hope that Rijin puts her brother in his place. She is an adult and she has committed herself to helping Dohyun. She needs to tell her brother to not talk down to her. He may be angry and afraid, but he has to respect her decisions. And I hope that his romantic feelings are not having some influence on his behavior.)

Its so interesting to see Segi in action. He harbors all of Dohyun's anger and sadness and yet comports himself like a child. It's like he can't find a way to properly channel his emotions.

Lastly, I like the exploration of existence and non-existence and how the way both concepts are understood depends upon the perspective one is looking at.

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yes me too. the crying scenes (the beginning) and the Ri on speak to him scene clearly display his acting skills. They are spot ons. Couldn't help but compliment him because it is the right amount of emotions to carry!

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yeah..and if ever RO doesn't agree with Ri Jin, she must answer him back with,"I thought my decision is the BEST decision?" haha :)

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Am I the only one disturbed by Ri-On's non-platonic love for Ri-jin? I know they're not blood related, but I still find it gross. She grew up loving him as a brother and he grew up loving her as a lover. I really do hope he keeps it to himself and doesn't ruin the sibling bond they have.

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Nah grrl, I'm totally grossed out by it too. I need him to keep that love buried deeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeep down where no one ever gets to see it.

More charitably, I really hope for his sake that the show introduces a (non-incestuous, because the fact that his feelings for Ri-jin aren't ACTUAL incest hangs on the merest technicality) love interest for him. I don't want to see him unhappy and in unrequited love, but neither do I ever want him to reveal his feelings. Imagine how fracking traumatic that would be for Ri-jin!

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Ri on should Gert together with husky ssi. They'd make a great couple.

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Yes, I hope so too.

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Nope, it makes me uncomfortable too. I reallyyy hope he doesn't reveal it, especially to Ri-jin, because that'd just ruin their entire family.

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I am completely grossed out. By this K drama logic adopted children should be falling in love with their siblings. I don't know what kind of a message that sends out to people looking at adoption. I want them to kill this plot STAT!

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its not like it doesnt happen in real life take witney houstans daughter and her adopted brother. i dont find it really that weird either. then again it may not really faze be considering there are cousins in different cultures that marry each other and its not a rare thing at that. also its a risk that its bound to happen between adopted brothers and sis that know they are adopted. these two werent even adopted by birth, they were like 8-9 yrs old i think.

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It would be similar to Pinocchio. The uncle and niece in name. I didn't have a problem with Pinocchio so I don't think this is a big issue here. Except Ri-jin doesn't have feelings for Ri-On, so he should keep it to himself.

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People have said that but with Pinocchio it's actually really different because a) they both like each other like you said b) I feel like because the audience spent time with their younger versions we see that they were never introduced as siblings or twins (like in this show) and he was only her "uncle" by name because they didn't want Granpa to go into shock. She only addressed him that way because of that. They also never grew up calling each other siblings/twins...and they never played the part either. That's why I was okay with it, while here I'm just disgusted.

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agree. i'm glad u said that i was feeling offended on behalf of Pinocchio writer's hahah. i even think this drama is more entertaining than Pinocchio which i also liked alot but the ship in Pinocchio isnt creepy at all. its very mature, healthy, sweet and honest.

but Ri On's feelings are GROSS. the fact that he is acting like he can dictate her life cuz he's her "oppa" when in fact his romantic feelings are influencing his actions alot (or even entirely) makes it EXTRA gross. the worst part is she has NO idea about it. she just innocently loves him as a brother and doesnt even know she's adopted. like she thinks thats her real brother out of the womb and he knows he's not and is into her "like that" and i want to throw up tbh? like...WHO thought this would be ok????

and he better not ever reveal it. i actually cheered when Se Gi called out Ri On's hypocrite ass, talking about brotherly rights while eyeing her in a very non brotherly way. like idg why this same plot couldnt have occured with ri jin and ri on as childhood friends. that would retain the angst without any of the NASTY but oh well. at least he has no chance in hell.

it's too bad tho cuz their sibling chemistry was ADORABLE. sigh.

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I know how you feel about RionxRijin. I'm praying that the writer will tie it up neatly eventually.

IMO, Rion is one curious kid (hey he's a famous mystery writer now). Maybe it all started out innocently, but things changed after he found out they're (both?)adopted and as he got too invested when researching about Rijin. He probably started seeing Rijin as a subject of his story and that's when the potential 'I like you more than a sister as a brother should' feelings appear. I don't blame him really. It's just circumstances that make it out that way.

I'm seeing his love for her as a mechanism to keep her out of harms way, and not as a third/fourth wheel to Dohyun/Segi combi. Anyway Rion is so self-aware that he berated himself for letting RijinxDohyun meet, so I'm sure he'll take a step back when the time comes no matter how emotionally torn he is.

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it is weird but I think it is needed
he need to confirm his feeling too
Ri On personality is mystery and the only girl that knew his charm is Ri Jin
the only girl that find his funny side is Ri Ji
he never really have another woman as friend and he hides that he is a famous novelist
so I think he just feel protected and love her (as sibling) because she understand her best, she already seen how he is

there's always that feel arise, because they aren't blood related, but he need to confirm it also so I accept the premise (but please it wasn't a real love like man to woman...please...please....)
it wasn't an incest if they aren't related by blood but that feeling maybe because long history of acceptance and togetherness.

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Actually I think all the taboo plot lines are okay as long as the writer plays them carefully without going too far and never put there for the sake of putting there. It definitely must serve its purpose e.g drugs, sucide. Not just incest should be part of the cross the line not cross the line plot lines.

I think, Ri On is indeed in dilemma with his feelings. He grow up knowing he is adopted but suppressed them because he can't break his family apart. i wouldn't root for him but I know he is a really sad character because his love will be unrequited. Judging from the mistake poem he made, he must have realise his sister is falling in love with Do Hyun.

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Because It IS GROSS.

I'll be incredibly grossed out if my brother turned out to be adopted and has been secretly attracted to me.

Think about it.

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yep thank u! a big issue is that she doesnt even KNOW she's not his real twin let alone his real sibling. and is thus also unaware completely of his feelings or in fact that any such feelings could ever occur. the fact that she doesnt share his feelings nor ever will/could is just the icing on this shit cake.

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If you watched Pinocchio, that could be even more gross because the OTP had uncle-niece relationship. I didn't mind Rion's crush because I totally get that he is in close proximity with Rijin for years, knowing she isn't his real sister and come to love her more than a family. But I don't want him as second lead or anywhere near that because Rijin didn't have the same feeling for him and she is clueless to their non-existent sibling relationship. Plus I think Segi is enough as a contender for Rijin's heart.

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It didn't think it was gross in Pinocchio. Both of them know they're not related. Whereas here Ri Jin doesn't know her brother is looking as her as a man. That's creepy.

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Edit button where are you....
"I" didn't think it was....
Looking "at" her...

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except both in-ha and dal-po in pinocchio KNEW that they weren't related to each other, and that he was only her uncle in name for the sake of the grandpa. they were never brought up to believe that they were blood-related, which makes all the difference.

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Ick factor in my opinion too.

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as to the secret of the past we need to ask questions first even random and see which ones give us answers that matc h with what we already know.

for one, were the kids switched and the one meant for privileged life grew up in a regular family? yay?
who was the one who abused Do Hyun?
what did the mother witness?
how did that fire even start? < might be important?
and who was the one who started it...
does even Se Gi know EVERYTHING?
what does he know? and what does he assume?

I have no fear of Ri Jin and Do Hyun being blood related in any way. but I do keep thinking of who put who in danger exactly, and how the fire started

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For some reason, I think the "Grandfather" abused the kids. Or he might have abused ORJ, or the "Mother" (The real Wife that died) did; And it looks like Cha Do Hyun's "Father" that is in a coma must have been a bit on the "slow side" as in I think he had a bit of Down Syndrome or is not exactly normal, and that is why the Father gave the CEO position to the "Mother" (Real Wife).

That is why Shin Se Ge gave that sinister look to the Grandfather since he was the abuser.
I think the "Father" is the real father of CDH, otherwise the mistress wouldn't have hold on for so long at the Cha household. I am sure the Cha Family already did a DNA test on him to make sure he was a Cha before making the lawfully wedded wife adopt Cha Do Hyun.

Can't wait til tomorrow, more SHIN SE GI!!!!!

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My theory is that the Grandfather and the daughter-in-law who died in the car crash with him were having an affair. That's why he gave her the CEO position, and that's why she was in the car with him when he died.

They ended up having a child from this affair. It could be either Ri-jin or Ri-on; my money's on Ri-jin. I don't really know how Ri-on figures into this whole thing; it doesn't seem like he was down in the basement with Ri-jin and Cha Do Hyun.

I think Cha Do Hyun is the child of the father in the coma and the woman who was his mistress. I agree with your assessment that this is what gives the mistress the pull she still has in the Cha family.

ALSO, has anyone else picked up on the fact that her last name is Shin? And that Shin Se Gi's last name is (obviously) Shin? I'm not familiar enough with Korean culture to know if this is significant, but Grandma Seo keeps going on an on about the mistress not being in the family register. If a woman has a child out of wedlock, does the child take on her last name?

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That would make "ORIGIN" Cha Do Huyn's aunt and adopted half sister, which would be incest. I doubt the Major Korean TV Network would go that route.
I don't think the Grandfather and Daughter In Law was having an affair. Perhaps, the "Father" that is in a coma is not the chairman's son, but rather the Daughter in law is the Chairman's son and the 'origin' was the product?

Which would make it that they are not related, however by law they are still related since CDH is officially in the family register. which would also make sense as to why Shin Se Gi does not want to call him "grandfather."I still think the "Father" in the coma has a Mental Retardation problem. Why isn't the portrait that Grandma has of him in a suit, but rather he is in a goofy grin?

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oops, I mean it would make the Daughter in Law the Chairman's real daughter and Origin is the real grandchild of the Chairman while the "Grandma' had her child (The one iin a coma" out of wedlock from another man(Family Secrets) that the Mistress is referring to?

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Ooooo, you're so right, that would make Oh Ri-jin (eep! "ORIGIN"! That's clever!) and Cha Do Hyun related. And I definitely don't think the dram is going to let them be related.

Hmmm, well maybe Ri-on is the child of the Grandfather and the daughter-in-law, making Ri-on and Cha Do Hyun related (and setting them up for a power struggle for Seungjin Group).

Perhaps Ri-jin is just like...a local girl that they brought in to be friends with Cha Do Hyun in his Basement Of Sadness.

Eeeee, I don't know!

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Sawrry, i posted my theories the comments below because I was way too excited to post them.

1. for one, were the kids switched and the one meant for privileged life grew up in a regular family?

I think it is a maybe. Ri on and Dohyun could both be chaebol. Except their identities were switched in the first place.

2. who was the one who abused Do Hyun?

Definitely Mr X. I still have my reservation whether Mr X is Grandma or Joon Pyo now. It could be Joon Pyo's split personality if he happens to be the illegitimate heir of Seungri's group.

3. what did the mother witness?
The basement incident. She knows who were involved: Grandma and Mr X. As what Segi said, there are 3 person involved. My take is Nana is sort of the innocent one that was dragged into the whole incident. But her information is limited.

4. how did that fire even start? < might be important?
and who was the one who started it…

IMO, Segi started the fire. There is always possibility that Grandma decides to burn the place down to kill both Rijin and Dohyun but what if that this is how Segi decides to save both of them from the horror of basement and Mr X? And that is when Joon Pyo comes in to save them. Do hyun was taken away first but Nana was trapped in the fire (which is why I think he assumed that Nana is dead before he meets Rijin.) and Joon Pyo in coma because he breathe in too much smoke?

5. does even Se Gi know EVERYTHING?
what does he know? and what does he assume?

if my less gross theory is correct, Segi does not know everything.

He definitely know the whole basement incident.

He must know that (or he assume) he is a illegitimate son of Seungri Group. He definitely will assume Nana is the heir (which IMO it is not true) thus lead to the basement incident. If not, he would be crazy to find the true heir now to probably destroy him.

He also knows that Nana is a single child and don't have any brother (thus able to know that Ri On is not Rijin's brother when he first met him).

and one more induction to add is: There is a certain ickyness if my prediction is correct. This means that Segi knows that Nana is his "niece" and he is in love with her. Which it actually make sense because 7-8 years old don't recognize incestuous feelings. His love is purely because he is in love with her when he is young and when he meet Nana again, (since he will appear time to time in the past 11 years) he slowly grow into a teenager and realise he shouldnt be in love with her. But it is too late for that and he knew he is still in love with her after all these years which could be a reason why he is not telling Rijin the truth since the truth would push her away from him.

(to end this, I can't help but put this Harry Potter quote: "After all these years?" "Always." HAHAH)

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I wish everyone would stop talking about incest. I don´t think that´s it in this case and if you all keep talking about it YOU are perverts.

It might be that the heirs were switched. but can you SWITCH a boy and girl? you can switch a boy and a boy.

second, I feel like Se Gi saying Do Hyun wouldn´t be able to handle it means DH is the one who did something in the basement. perhaps the fire started because of him. or perhaps he left another child their and put Ri JIn in danger.

and if the legal wife had a child out of wedlock with another guy and Do Hyun is the son of the mistress.... and maybe not even Joon Pyo... then they are so not related.

stop it already it is like you all want it to be incest. would that tickle you?

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I need to make myself clear *clear throat*: No, I'm not in for incesteous drama. If the drama go down that line, I will be deeply disappointed with the scriptwriter because I find it damn disgusting for Do Hyun x Rijin and ruin every single love I had for this drama.

I'm only saying that Segi assumed Rijin is his "niece". This also means that he thought she is. The form of love could be an attachment to his girl because Rijin aka Nana was the only person close to him when he was younger. He, himself, couldn't find out what is it about before he grow up again when Do Hyun turns 17 and all along he thought Nana was dead. That is why there is this episode holding hand saying that "at 10pm, it is the day I fall in love with you." (Somewhere along that line) is also means that he found out his feelings when they meet again.

But this lead to another question: why he wouldn't want to tell Rijin that she was in the basement with him? Without the assumption that she is the heir (which I really dread that she is), a child wouldn't want to just tell her the truth? Segi clearly knows that this would bring her to him if they are not related but refused to tell Rijin when he always followed Rijin's instruction. let us not forget that Segi is a immature teenager. And furthermore, Rion was telling/accused him having less right for being the son of seungri group and Segi did not chase after Rijin. It would make sense if he THINKS (I put caps to italic it) that he might be her uncle. From the reactions when he couldn't see Rijin, he was trying to find her if she disappear. He definitely will follow her. And when he saw his "mother" with Nana, he lose his cool and remind him of the basement incident and tell her part of the secret.

So yes, it is gross that Segi is in love with nana, but i never once believe that is Segi and Nana is related at all. So Im waiting for the scriptwriter to come out with a way that it can statisfy both viewers and the intensity of the drama so badly.

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As for the heir switch, I think I did mention in my theories below. It could have been Min Seo and Oh Mum switch their child from the start. So Rijin is registered as Min Seo's child but actually it is Oh Mum's child and vice versa. Given their closeness, it would happen if it is a mean to bring safety to Rion since Rion is a son and he has a share of the heir rights. And Rijin and Rion is one day apart so paperwork shouldn't be a big problem. Let's not forget the twin setting in the drama.

This could lead to one of the theory I did comment in previous recap: both the uncle and nephew is in love with female lead. Lovers in Paris? And 100% zero grossness since there is no blood relation.

Or it is when Rijin switch with Do Hyun first then Do Hyun switch with Ri on. But no matter how they switch, there is no blood relation with Rijin so it is okay?

And as for the pain, I guess it could be:
1. The loss of Nana (Do Hyun don't know that Nana = Rijin)
2. He is the illegitimate son or he is the product of a affair or he now have to step up his game to fight Grandma to get what he deserved.
3. he may have something to do with the car accident. It could be both of them trying to save Do Hyun and ended up in the car accident or someone made him to cause the death of Min Seo and Grandpa. I don't think a child can handle this kind of guilt.
4. I agree with you for the fire accident. He could have been the one who almost killed Joon Pyo. I mean, if Mr X is Joon Pyo, and under extreme stress, he may have indirectly caused him in coma. E.g hit him with something. And I seriously don't think a traumatized child can cope with loss of his best friend. Or maybe nana save him first and got trapped in the fire?
5. So yes, if Do Hyun remembers the memories and then he will remember that he is Not the rightful "heir" and REALISE he have this kind of feelings for his "niece". As a viewer we already find it gross, so how about the 1st person? Sighs.
5. And lastly, yes. I hope Joon Pyo is not the right heir so that everything can fall in place nicely.

Last but not least, I must emphasize this: I never registered Do Hyun and Rijin are blood related. Yes, it is weird that I actually think that is a valid plot but I thought this drama is pushing taboo boundaries so i literally let my imagination go wild and rationalize whether it actually makes sense for the mystery to be solved. And Uncle-niece relationship and then they realise they ain't related plot line has been used before. Sighs. And also it is a big no no for dramaland, movie/book maybe they would have such incesteous plot line, but not a drama.

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i doubt it'll end in any incestuous reveal (though oh ri on and ri jin is incestuous enough in my book, blood related or not)

As for Mr. X ........

I've been wondering...

If anyone has seen The Three Faces of Eve, they'll remember that [Spoiler] ultimately the personality to survive and retain the memories of all the others was not the primary one but a third and last mysterious one the others didn't know about, who turned out to be the strongest alter making the others (including the primary) disappear but retaining all their memories.

perhaps this Mr. X is going to pull the same trick, after all it is extremely unlikely he is a personality depicting the perpetrator (no victims of abuse who develop DID try to become the person who abused them, that's just doesn't make sense) so perhaps this will be the alter who'll combine the memories of do hyun and segi and yona and the rest and become the final whole person to survive - a person we don't even know yet

I think that'll be very exciting

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I like this theory! It could be the completed puzzle of Cha Do Hyun. It would be exciting!!!!! ?

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does the last alter has a different name than the primary alter chip? I wonder

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interestingly the third alter in the movie has no name, much like this Mr. X, and since she realizes she doesn't know her own name she chooses a name for herself (which is different from the primary alter's)

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so chip, if the writers take this plot, it'll be so much fun if there's a contest among die hard fans for the name of the last alter...LOL

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but I don´t want them to disappear!

and I want character dolls. especially Yo Na.
could the drama producers please make collectibles that are available internationally? I would get all 7 characters. or just one and a dress-up set.

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haha..me too!!! :) Oh, there's so many products that they can produce and make CF's with because of this drama. And I know that It'll be sold out again before we even know that it exists.hahaha

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I'm glad I refreshed DB while on break. Heck those online review! I'm on paused mode now.
I've been holding up commenting for this episode. I'm glad that the recap is out. Arigato Saya!
I guess the writer read every comments regarding KMHM, and he knows everyone is requesting to see Mr. Shin. Well let our wish be his command! We get to see Shin Segi in one whole episode. Yayyyy

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How do I love thee?
While in a meeting... [rocker/cool/hard headed man-child "writing notes"

OH RI-JIN ????????????
SHIN SE-GI

Epic to the highest level .

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LOL YEAH. ITS LIKE WE ARE MISSING SEGI ALREADY AND BAM, we have one and half or two full epsiodes of SEGI. But I hope she will start preparing the Valentine's Day kiss. OMG. IT'S GONNA BE SO HAWT. :D

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Ohhh..<3
We should start preparing ourselves (Briing the fire extinguisher's on!!!) now because maybe after the end of either Episodes 11 or 12, we're all in flames!!! <3

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Yes bring it on! LOL ?

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@aria and @aoi: LOL. Yes. We do need it soon!!! Where's the fan now?? >__<

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OMG I forgot that Heart's day is just around the corner! I'm thinking of kisses with lots of hugs on a date? Gosh maybe we can see ORJ all girly made up ?????. The big question is, who are you guys rooting for her date CDH or SSG? Waaahhhhhh

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CDH with SSG attitude and fashion sense. Is that asking for too much?

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LOL YOU ARE NOT. I WANT BOTH CHA DO HYUN AND SHIN SEGI IN ONE EPISODE. IS THAT TOO MUCH TO ASK? Am I having greedy thoughts?

But I hope both appear in one ep would help Ri Jin to find out who she wants to be with.

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Nope, you're not asking too much..
Here goes... let's start it off with a kiss ? from Shin Se-gi then halfway CDH wakes up and of course he's happy to finish what has been started. BAMMMMMMM so heaven.. oh man! Lucky ORJ

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@aoi yeah! I think it is one of those drama when we can have best of both worlds!!! Bad Boy Segi and Good natured Do Hyun. LOL. So jealous of ORIGIN. HAHA

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Oh Segi! You really do tug at my heartstrings, immature man-child you may be.
That mirror scene was so good! You can see equal parts hope, misery and anger when he directs those words to Dohyun. If only there was a way for them to come to an understanding. I'm still holding a torch for the bromance.
Hee.
Also, in the scene when Segi looks at the grandpa's picture, does he address him as 'harabeoji' or 'abeoji'. Cuz it sounded like the latter to me. Did anyone else notice that?

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It was haraboji. The "Har" part was very soft though.

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Is that significant? Forgive my lack of Korean language skills >_<...

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Haraboji=grandfather
Aboji=father

Given this plot, very significant!

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Kamsahamnida!

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Oh, okay. Thanks for clearing that up. I thought so too but I wasn't sure. Cuz if it was the latter, that would open whole new can of worms.

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I'm betting the voice at the end was Mr. X, or at least that Mr. X will appear next episode as a result of DH's memories returning. I hope so!!! Also I noticed that in promos and the little character shots at the beginning of the episodes Nana and Mr. X appear together. Maybe I am reading to much into it, but I think they are both directly related to the trauma and each other.

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You know, Yo-na's line "I think na-na was playing with it" was so weird. Like when Do-hyun came back from being Perry (in like ep 5?6?) he didn't know what Perry was doing there in front of the house or anything, he just came to consciousness & needed to change/get out of there.

When he changes personalities - they seem to be as surprised to be 'awake' again....so I wonder how Yo-na could say Na-na was there, like she had seen her playing with the teddy bear.... The personalities' connections are hard to grasp - and maybe it's a purposeful writing thing- to show that the walls between each personality is getting thinner....?

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Maybe because do hyun doesn't acknowledge them as part of him while the other personality is already accept the fact that they in the same body
They understand each cause the might be already meet
But do hyun even when other took his body
He still think they just another person and never meet his true self

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I don't know if this is a plot hole, but if Yona said Nana was there, why didn't Do Hyun check the CCTV and see Nana's movement? Well Yona said 'maybe', but there must be some time in that house when Nana came out, otherwise the teddy bear won't come out.

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I think they are purposely keeping Nana hidden . I have a feeling she's not a personality in itself but just a memory of RJ. Nana only appeared after he met RJ .

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Don't forget how freaked out Mom was, and how she was washing off the "I'm Nana" scrawl on the basement floor.

Nana has shown up before, and she terrifies the hell outta people. It could be that DH hid behind being a girl after the trauma - maybe for a long time would he only wear girls clothes, or something.

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@jomo or it could be a person that existed in the family before? or Nana is actually the first personality Do Hyun has, after he loses Rijin/think rijin is dead, and to cope with his loss, he always draw the teddy bear with Nana. The Grandma and Mum decided to keep this as a secret. It could be a reason why Grandma is not surprise if Do Hyun has mental disorder during the meetup with Secretary Ahn because he had signs before 11 years ago.

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I think she is playing hide and seek which is what her origin was doing in the basement, and maybe the fire started from Do Hyun, then RJ called for a savior

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I think the personalities make assumptions just as DH does. When DH wakes up in poetry park's clothes he assumes Perry poark came before him and not SG dressed as Perry park. I think yona too makes that assumption about Nana. She sees the bear in her hands and assumes Nana came before.

The thing with the personalities is that they are not like DH who was always DH. They started fully grown with just some of DHs memories/desires. They know perfectly who made them and why.

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I agree with you!

My induction of these personalities are born because of Nana aka Rijin.

1. Segi: The destructive baby. We know the lock in the basement story.

2. Ahn Yoo Sub: the suicidal 17 year old. My take is 11 years ago Dohyun was diagnosed with D.I.D which makes Dohyun a 17 years old kid (28-11 = 17). He was born because he regain his memory when he first got hit by his friend's father. And upon knowing the truth, he just want to end everything. But he decided to hide from the truth again which leads to him becoming Segi again and Yoo Sub to be created to contain his suicidal thoughts.

3. Nana: she is probably drawn from Rijin. Just take a quick reference to the epsiode where Segi gave Rijin all the presents that Nana would love which means Segi knew Rijin is Nana.

4. Ahn Yoona: 17 year crazy fan girl. This is the girl probably Do Hyun visual Nana to be after regaining his memories when he was 17. He wants her to be carefree and only think about Oppas. Reference to previous episode, Segi would have thought Nana already died from the incident and never thought he would meet her again. So, she was born on the desire Do Hyun wants Nana to live.

5. Perry Park: Uncle. I have a problem coming up with theory for him but if he is so fun I think I can link with Oh Dad. He could be the person who bringing Rijin to the family for visit considering Oh mum was close with Min Seo.

6. Mr X. I definitely think he is the kidnapper's personality.

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We can saw Do-hyun knows about these personalities because he has been undergoing treatment (with the doctor) and also has his house under surveillance & recording.

Do we also know that Perry and Yo-na and Yo-sub all monitor the cameras too? (I think Se-gi might actually, he did leave a video message to Do-hyun afterall).

So I was just unclear as to how the personalities know each other----and ESPECIALLY because in Yo-sub's drawings, he did not know about or draw #7 - Mr. X./

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Great episode! I love Shin Se-Gi and Ji Sung's acting!
I don't know if it was just me, but is Se-Gi's tattoo getting thinner? Not sure if it was meant to, or if the make up artists weren't very consistent.

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maybe its another plot twist hint, or maybe because CDY is getting stronger, or maybe that...maybe this...hahaha...there will be so many theories that we can think of..thats why this drama is superb ^__^

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Nice walk through Se Gi's mind, Saya. Since Se Gi carries the dark hidden parts of Do Hyun, and since Ri Jin is back in his life to trigger that dark past, I can see why he would push Do Hyun up against the wall to face those memories. Si Gi wants a relationship with Ri Jin that isn't just a crash and burn situation when their basement story is revealed. Se Gi realizes that Do Hyun's relationship with her ecludes that dark part. So, I wonder if the biggest crisis would be if Ri Jin remembers the forgotten basement story while she is present with Do Hyun, and not Se Gi.

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Oh! Thank you Saya by the way! I'm finding that I like that the recap came today. That way, this episode will be fresh in my mind for tomorrow!

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Honestly i really cant predict Ri On's feelings over Ri Jin. He is the most mysterious person for me. First i thought he knew about CDH's illness but in the end he doesnt know at all. I dont know yet what Ri On goals is or what his plans. I think he knows about their (cdh, rijin, rion) childhood connections, thats why he over protective with Rijin. With or without his love feelings, he will always be protective when it comes to Rijin with CDH.

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Ri-on explained it best as secret identities. Like he has identities to hide too: the secret writer vs lazy neighborhood oppa (always hanging out, not working, being at home/in neighborhood) vs actual person he is.

So it's understandable to him that some chaebol-heir would want to prince-&-pauper an identity for freedom.....

Only when Ri-jin's comment about 'it not being voluntary like Ri-on, but coming & going without control' worries him enough to come pull her awya...

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Hi Miss Saya, Thank you for your recap! Is always interesting reading your point of view.
I agree with your assesmet of Se Gi's turmoil about his own existence and his frustration when it comes to Do Hyun "cowardice", even if I don't agree with Hwang Jung-eum overdoing her performance. I thought she was really extreme in the beginning (The screams!) but I've come to think now that that's the way the PD and writer want her to be.
I hope they keep the story as interesting as it's been,in my opinion most Korean dramas have a tendency to begin well and then... well, let's hope they keep it up.
P.s.: I think Se Gi's red car is the newly shipped Ford Mustang GT 2015.

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I agree that Shin Se-gi's car is a Ford Mustang (not sure of the exact model). In fact, most of the cars in this series seem to be of the Ford/Lincoln/Mercury variety.

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Yup. FM GT 2015 and Ford Lincoln :). I love the combination of Shin Se Gi's hotness and the Mustang. <3 :D

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>> most of the cars in this series seem to be of the Ford/Lincoln/Mercury variety

Coz Ford/Lincoln is one of the sponsors :)

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Thanks for the catch about the car! If it turns up again, I'll christen it rightly!

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You're welcome!

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@lynn, I agree with your assessment of Hwang Jung-eum. I don't think she's overdoing her performance either. In fact, I'm *loving* the fact that she's still just as much a part of this drama as when it started.

I find that dramas tend to start out strong where the heroine is concerned and then, after we've established how cool/lovable/great she is, we see less and less of her. By the end of the drama, often the heroine is trotted out only when we need a reason for the hero's actions. The fact that Ri-jin is just as capable, just as professional, and just as involved in the drama in Episode 10 as she was in Episode 1 makes me so happy.

And you know what? Her over-the-top personality has never seemed too much to me. I think the way she has chosen/the writer wanted this character to be played is as a chatterbox, expressive, highly professional character. I love that all those facets exist in her character, and it's one of the things that makes her seem like an actual, fleshed-out person to me.

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