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Odds and Ends: Hero in a box

girlfriday: Remember that thing we said when we were drunk?

javabeans: (1) You’re going to have to be more specific, and (2) odds are no.

girlfriday: In the drunk podcast, where we were talking about City Hunter and Healer and wanting to lock those actors in a box, so that they don’t ruin their careers (or taint our memories) with subsequent crap?

javabeans: Ah, where actor love and protectiveness manifest as kidnapping and imprisonment? Yes. I remember that. It’s for their own good!

girlfriday: It just made me think that there were so many others we’d want to lock up, because this happens so often, where someone busts out with an amazing performance in an amazing character, and then you kind of want them never to do another role again. Selfish, yes. But you know we all think it.

javabeans: I mean, to be less criminal about it, it mostly happens when we love the perfect melding of an actor and their role so much that it’s hard to think of them moving on and taking on new (sometimes lesser) characters. It can be most obvious in retrospect, where you see a great actor take bad role after bad role (won’t somebody save Yoon Eun-hye from herself?), but it can also happen when you just love what they’re doing so much right now that you don’t want to see them leave it. Choi Woo-shik in Ho-gu’s Love might be a good example.

girlfriday: I do so love Choi Woo-shik in that role. Like Yoon Shi-yoon as Enrique! I never thought twice about him until he was so bubbly and cute.

javabeans: …and you never thought twice about him when he was then sad and dour in Prime Minister and I, I’m sure.

girlfriday: Yes, see, this is why with the locking up. My prime example will always be Jung Il-woo as Iljimae.

javabeans: Ohhh. Sigh. He was so perfect, and that drama was so perfect, that the Jung Il-woo we see after that, even when he’s great (like in 49 Days and Flower Boy Ramyun Shop), seems like a different person than the Jung Il-woo who was Iljimae.

girlfriday: It ruined him with its perfection, is what it did. Or me. Maybe it just ruined me.

javabeans: That’s what I want with Sung Joon in Shut Up: Flower Boy Band, even though I think he’s totally got it in him to do good things in the future. I just loved him so much as the hurty, angsty, lonely teen rocker boy.

girlfriday: I always secretly hope he’ll bust out a guitar and join a band, no matter what boring character he’s playing.

javabeans: I always see him being all clean-cut afterward, even when he’s adorable like in I Need Romance 3, and I just think, “You sellout. What about the rock and roll, man?”

girlfriday: I’m pretty sure I’ll never stop seeing Yoo Yeon-seok as Chilbongie. Ever. Or Jung Woo as Oppa. I want them to just be those two characters from Answer Me 1994 FOREVA.

javabeans: But they have to exist forever in separate dramas. I can’t go through that trauma again.

girlfriday: Don’t you think Shin Mina would be happier going through life as Gu Mi-ho forever?

javabeans: She might eat us all out of cow, but on the upside, that’s good for global warming, right? Then there are people like Lee Je-hoon, who was so amazingly amazing in Bleak Night that I just want to preserve him in that, even though that means he’d have to live his misery in an infinite loop.

girlfriday: Aaaaaaah, I just want to lock him up in that box so that Bleak Night is the only performance that stays with me. It’s that good.

javabeans: Ackkkk! You can’t SAY THAT about Lee Je-hoon!

girlfriday: The box is a metaphor, NOT literal!

javabeans: Too soon, man, too soon. Although, ironically, that might prevent him from the literal box in Secret Door, so…..

girlfriday: See, it’s a win-win!

javabeans: MOVING ON, I say Choi Jin-hyuk in It’s Okay, Daddy’s Girl, which is strange because it’s probably the worst drama he’s done, but it’s the one I liked him the most in. He was so, so sweet and earnest and good and reliable all those things were really hot.

girlfriday: Even more than Gumiho Daddy? I dunno…

javabeans: Okay, somebody may have a bad boy thing more than somebody else. Me, I liked him being devoted and responsible.

girlfriday: BORING.

javabeans: He was like Se-jong in Persevere, Gu Hae-ra, but less angsty! Goddamn, if only Daddy’s Girl weren’t so G-rated. He got maybe one good piggyback ride and that was it, but at least it was with Moon Chae-won. And then he had to go ruin it with Heirs and Emergency Couple.

girlfriday: I guess I do have a bad boy thing, because I found Lee Sang-yoon so dull until he was Ha Woo-jin in Liar Game.

javabeans: He should never do anything else. Because I’m not so sure he has it in him to pull a repeat in something else.

girlfriday: I sort of think that about Jung Eun-ji, even though I still really really like her. It’s just that nothing she’s done since Answer Me 1997 is even remotely close to the awesomeness of her debut.

javabeans: This just highlights how choosing the right project is as important as doing a good job in it, because no matter how great you are, do I really want to see Yoochun being a cop three times in a row? And I say that out of love! Even if I let him out of his sageuk princey box, I’d want a different kind of role for him, regardless of how good Sensory Couple may/may not be.

girlfriday: But… but… I love that sageuk princey box, especially for Yoochun! I loved his nerdy scholar in Sungkyunkwan Scandal.

javabeans: Nooooo, I meant Rooftop Prince, obviously, because what are you smoking? He was so awesome and hilarious as the haughty tracksuit-wearing prince/chaebol/hobo!

girlfriday: What. You’re the one who’s smoking something. How can you prefer the goofy, clueless, childish, not-quite-all-there guy with troll hair to the adorable perfect scholar boy?

javabeans: I think you just answered your own question. How is this not obvious? Well, I guess on the upside, at least we’ll never fight over men?

girlfriday: Okay, it’s a tough job, but I’ll take all the bad boys, rebels, vampires, and misfits out of your hair. Since you clearly don’t want to be bothered by hotness. You can have all the dim, sweet nerds.

javabeans: Yes, please. Thank you.

girlfriday: One more friendship preserved.

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I'm with Girl Friday, I like the bad boys! Except for Ho Gu. I adore Ho Gu who is like the exact opposite of a bad boy, times ten.

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I like bad boys who are secretly sweet and nerdy.

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I'll double on that! :D

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agree, agree!

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;)

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*solemnly* AMEN!

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Speaking as a man ... what you are looking for only exists in fantasy ... I'm telling my daughter to seek out the quiet nerd ... scour the Math Clubs and Chess Clubs ... go to the Math Olympics and check out who's bringing home the Gold ... that's your guy ....

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Lol no, they exist but a really really rare gem. I'm speaking from experience ;-)

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Agreed... Thats exactly what I was telling the 16 year old niece of one of my friends! The bad boys with a heard of gold are like Dramaland people, it is pure fiction!

In real life the less volatile second lead is probably a better choice. One who wont be wrist grabbing or force kissing you. HAHA

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Great advice.

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Agree. Best example: Shin Segi. kkkk ^^

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Yessssss, *high fives* talk about ideal, right there.

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In dramaland, characters that are bad (bad boys, villains, anti-heroes,...) are just more interesting. In real life, they're just bad.

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May I please also have some of the bad boys and rebels? Thank you very kamsa!

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How can you guys forget Lee seung gi in King 2 hearts?!!!!!

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Oh man, I saw saw King2Hearts after seeing Seung Gi in Shining Inheritance and My GF is Gumiho; and I was like.. damn someone grew up and became a man. I have never found Seung-Gi to be that attractive besides in that role.

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Yes!

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Yup! Lee Seunggi's role as Lee Jaeha was the first thing that popped into my mind as I was reading JB and GF's bantering

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ahhhhhhhhh,..
i really want to lock Lee Sang Yoon up in Liar Game Box,
Liar Game Season 1
Liar Game Season 2
Liar Game Season 3
Liar Game The Movie...
^_^

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Yes a thousand times to this! I honestly hope the entire cast will return for a second season. Liar Game is honestly one of the best dramas I've ever seen
Lee Sang Yoon <3

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Hohoho,.. i'm happy to know that..
I don't know when they will start filming Liar Game season 2.. -__-
It's hard for me not to see LSY on screen right now... :'(
i hope he will come back asap & accept more hot_and_bad_guys_as_hero_ role..
^__^

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YES. Lee Sang-yoon should just be Ha Woo-jin forever. I tried watching him in Angel Eyes and I was like “who the eff are you?” If not HWJ, then he should just play perpetually scowling, grumpy-pants, genius characters from now on. He has found his niche.

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TOTALLY AGREE!!!
Hahaha,.. it will be really good if Lee Sang Yoon play a genius and playboy character, where he will wear jeans and t-shirt showing his abs.. awwwwwwwwwww
(oh no... this is no good for me...)
What am i doing hahahha

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Yes, him in Angel Eyes was soooooo perpetually boring I hurt myself.

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YES to all of this.

I was never, ever attracted to Lee Sang Yoon before Liar Game, and now I would give anything to be saved and protected by Ha Woo Jin. I beg of you Lee Sang Yoon, KEEP THAT HAIRCUT FOREVER.

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oh yeah,.. Dear PDnim please don't change Ha Woo Jin's Hairstyle in Liar Game Season 2 hahah
if you insist to change his hair style, please make him look more more manly_cold_and_genius *_^
Chaebal..

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well I guess its just me cos I loved him as Gwang hae Ku mama in Jung yi, and he was adorable in angel's eyes cos he looked like a cute big baby

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Just give me Lee Sang Yoon with a smile and I'll fall into those dimples forever!!!!

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We need a upvote button for this.

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What about My Daughter Seoyoung??? Lee Sang Yoon was totally swoonish in it!!! Then he killed my love in Angry Eyes ;(

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Agree! He only has that grumpy cat face throughout the drama and still got me head over heels.

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You girls !!!
Ha ha ha ha !!
You maybe right in these characters being so awesome that you can't get one like that again !

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Haha,, reminds me of Tina Fey and Amy, different tastes in men is why they are BFFs... :)

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I approach every Lee Minho drama with lots of caution because I loved him as Yoonsung in City Hunter. Perfect role for him that showed the acting chops that he does have. I'm hoping he gets pickier with roles and get the more mature ones. It's past time he does so. He never should've done Heirs.

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LMH should stay in City Hunter role for his own sake... he can be badass in anything... rather than play chaebol jerks again..

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IMO he was amazing in the Heirs, just cuz some hated the drama doesn't mean he didn't give it his all...Personally I loved Kim Tan!

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I'm glad I haven't seen City Hunter, because it happened to me what JB and GF commented in the healer podcast, Heirs ruined Lee Min Ho for me, I just couldn't stand his character and the drama. I not loved everything he had done but I think he was a decent actor and I liked his character in Faith.
I don't want Heirs to be the last memory of LMH's acting

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~ I don’t want Heirs to be the last memory of LMH’s acting ~

@ GlaSS - If you want your faith in Lee Min-ho restored again, watch City Hunter!

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I second sf fan's recommendation to watch City Hunter. I'll also add that Kim Sang-Joong’s Lee Jin-Pyo (the Daddy to top them all) is a must see.

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Granted Heirs is not everyone’s cup of tea. Yet nevertheless, I liked the fact that I didn’t have to like nor was I required to automatically swoon for Lee Min-Ho’s & Kim Woo-Bin’s characters. Instead, I could just focus on appreciating their performances and the character journeys/arcs for Kim Tan & Choi Young-Do. In this case both men played unlikable and utterly compelling characters you love to hate. But be that as it may, both Kim Tan & Choi Young-Do possessed an intangible charisma.

It’s good to see actors challenging themselves by stepping outside of their comfort zones and trying their hand at tackling something different in order to grow as an actor/artist.

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The Winner parody of Heirs was way better than Heirs...

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A sense of humor, laughter, giggles, & chuckles...it's a good thing.

“It's laughter that lubricates our irritations, that releases our tensions, that feeds our joy… it’s the laughter that helps keep things warm and joyful even in the midst of pain.” ― Emilie Barnes

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Hey August, thanks for the links below :) I'll go there and respond...I just want to say something regarding Kim Tan and Choi YD, I don't think they played unlikable characters, I personally loved how pained and tortured they both were and even in their worst lows they still possessed some integrity to stand up to "wrongs doings" against their friends. They fought with their inner devils and came out winning in the end, something most of us do on a daily basis, granted not on such a grand scale yet...We all still do. I loved this drama, I loved all the black in it, I loved all the despair, the lack of resolution, and I especially enjoyed the performances (minus the botched makeup wounds job).

They were supposedly teenagers/High schoolers but they played their roles with such maturity and integrity that I'm still baffled at all the hate this drama is getting...Eh, at the end of all things we say, to each their own! The Heirs gets my vote and I'll keep tooting its horn till the last post on DB lol :D

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In the Heirs recap threads I said it time and time again...Kim Tan and Choi Young-Do were the “real” OTP. First loves fighting their way back into each others lives one episode at a time.

Heirs most definitely had its faults, but I have no regrets about watching and joining the Heirs 1% Group.

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Hahaha well said chingu, I'm right there with you in that 1% group :D

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Haha this was great. I clicked when I saw "Healer" but stayed for the hilarity. As always.

But seriously, will someone please save YEH from herself? She started off so well with some of my favorite shows, Goong and CP, and since then, her drama selections have been less than ideal. I want to want to watch her again....

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I know, right?! I love YEH so much and really wish she picks a good production this time! Watched My Fair Lady and Mi-rae's Choice and they were both very mediocre. I Miss You was okay, but I prefer to see her in a rom-com. I really hope her next drama is a good one.

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I wish YEH will be casted in a Hong sisters' rom-com - great for her acting chops!

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Yes, I certainly miss Yoon Eun Hye. Loved her ever since Goong and in Lie to Me. She's long overdue for a new show!!!

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*sigh* I 4th this sentiment.

I so want YEH to do something amazing again, but I always end up disappointed.

When I get too down on it, I marvel at how one role can cement an actor's place in your heart forever. And for me, Coffee Prince alone is enough to make me a forever YEH fan. At least we know it's in there somewhere and there's hope (as long as she's still around) that we'll get to see it again.

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But… But… Bad boys and misfits are so loveable. And adorable, sweet, sweet dorks are also loveable. Why do we have to choose? Haha but it’s a good thing you girls sorted out which type of hero goes to whom. Leave the fighting over hot guys to us, I guess. Haha.

Also, you girls are so spot-on! Every character you mentioned above really is the best I’ve seen of whoever actor played it. Shame they had to make less good dramas, and more shame that we had seen it.

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See, that's why we all love healer so much! Because they gave us park bong soo and Seo Jung Ho in one hot package. We didn't have to choose.

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List of actors I wanna lock up:
1. Ji Chang Wook as Ta Hwan (Empress Ki): he won't ever play a character as complex as this. As much as his character is really heartbreaking, I really love him so much in this role.

2. Kim Woo Bin as Young Do (Heirs): maybe with the continuation of his redemption.. haha

3. Park Shin Hye as In Ha (Pinocchio): improving leaps and bounds from Heirs.. and I think this is her most comfortable role to date.

4. Jo Hyun Jae as Han Kang (49 Days) Kang ah..... 'nuff said

5. Ji Sung in Kill Me Heal Me... he can play all characters he wants from now on, whether badass guy, suicidal guy, nice guy or even crossdressing guy! LOL

Okay, I obviously have more actors than this small list, but now can't think anyone else.

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Somebody save me from this jcw obsession... i know he's all sort of wrong for me. For one, he smokes, which is the no.1 turn off 100% of the time, and that. doesn't. work.
Then I try to tell myself that he's gay, AND has a girlfriend, but that doesn't work either. I think, short of a a-hole criminal, I can't stop liking him. And I'm not happy about it. lol.

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Also... plus 1 for ji sung. I will always love him the most in save the last dance for me, but kmhm is fast coming up to be no. 2. He has this boyish yet manly charm, which is irresistible. Until jcw came and stole my heart out of nowhere, he and go soo were my crushes.

Speaking of go soo... please box him forever as cha kang jin, with ksh if you please.

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ok... on more.

so ji sub as the master. beats mopey hero every time.

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OK So Ji Sub as Joogun, Go Soo as Cha Kang Jin!
*brb buy more boxes* LOL

@platae once you love JCW, there's no way back! :D

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T____T But I'm NOT used to feeling this way about actors. Yes, I crush on them, swoon, find it hard to breathe, etc. etc. But I'm fairly rational. It's almost as if I can control or turn a switch off if I want to.
but jcw just makes me happy and confused, and fuzzy, unsettled, and back to being happy, and just batshit insane. I don't think it's healthy. This is not normal for me, and I don't know what to do with myself. lol.

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oh yes, so ji sub as joo gun !!! He and gong hyo jin in master's sun are my OTP!

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I cant even with JCW!! So different from other actors like he is relatable and feels real.

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Hi Platae,

Sorry for being too curious..but i have a clue on why this is happening to you...by any chance did you have a crush on someone who behaved similar to JCW ? like say he smoked but you still liked him ? and you relate the behavior of JCW to your past memories due to this ?
I asked this bcoz i have a similar problem when i see a picture of JCW i get similar problems that i cant stare at him and then i think back to what must be going on in his head when he posted the picture..its like i can enter his mind and see whats happening..but that is bcoz i had someone like him whom i used to crush like crazy and observe everything about him..so i know what is the source of my obsession with JCW :)

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Hi Trinity,

No worries. Curiosity rarely ever kills the cat. ;)

Butto answer your question, I've NEVER had a crush like the one I'm having with jcw. For one, smoking is a deal breaker for me, in the same level that being rude jerk, or a compulsive cheater would be. That's why I'm so puzzled why it doesn't matter with him. Well, I guess that the fact that I will never get to kiss him or smell him perhaps factors in it. XDD

I'm fairly rational, regarding my feelings. If anything, I sometimes think I'm a bit emotionless and cold. I don't often get infatuated about men, and even if I do, it gets abated really quickly, oftentimes by a turn-off. I even find it hard to relate to declarations of love/perverseness/hunger/obsessiveness, even if it's just fangirling. In fact, I'm fairly sure jcw's case is a first for me. It's both fascinating, and utterly disarming, in a scary way.

And if I feel so little for celebrities, who are basically packaged men for our fantasies, I feel even less for "real" men.

So I can't even dream about how I would react if I met a real-life jcw-like man. You're a lucky girl to have experienced it. <3

I think it's hard for me with jcw because there's so much of what I like about him in his characters, that I find it hard to separate the two, which I don't have a problem doing usually. And maybe the combination of both worlds is irresistible? I don't know. I feel like losing my mind. My thoughts aren't very clear right now.

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@platae oh boy...I thought I was going insane but your situation is worse.
in Nigeria,we ve a saying that explains ur feelings.We call it, "This one has passed 'be careful' o"-meaning,u 've gone to point of no return lol.

Twill help if u stay away from Topics,articles or threads that has his name mentioned. :)
Goodluck!

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KSH for young kangjin. He was awesome. Though i did love him as do manager. I think he was most insync with kangjin character.

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Thank you for the reply Platae. I used to be the way you described ( infact its so scary that you are describing yourself but i m feeling that its about me :O) until i met this guy. Its totally one-sided but i suddenly started to crush on him even though i saw him many times before. This happened when he was in a play acting /singing as someone else ( so this is comparable to JCW acting onscreen) but here's the thing...i liked his voice and eyes so then on i kept following his every move in college. I slowly realized all the habits he had (smoking etc) but still the crush never went away but the funny thing is i never spoke to him about it...in JCW case its the same thing again for me..his eyes and voice have some special effect on me ( i thought this would never repeat ;) but yeah i can understand every word you said since i used to so emotionless until i knew this guy and now JCW and as for other real men i m not comfortable at all in discussing my inner feelings with them.
I really want to help you here since i used to feel so lost during that phase and i didnt have anybody to share what i feel...its like i like this guy and i dont even think he is exactly like how i think he is and infact nobody would even believe ( coz everybody thought i m so cold person) even i tried the trick that he might be gay/has girlfriend/ i m not his type to convince myself but it didnt work...but i finally gave up and thought in this way - do not overthink.. just accept that you like this guy no matter how he is , and then give yourself sometime to analyze , since you are quite practical i m sure your brain will decide on things and come to a logical conclusion. This helped me and i was able to figure out that this crush would not let me follow my path , it takes time but it works if you accept it as it is. So hope this technique works for you as well :)

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Thank you for the support! Don't be offended, but I'm quite surprised your words actually helped me settle my mind a bit. Haha.

So thank you for sharing your story with me. I think many people share the same experience of feeling more or less that way at one point in their lives. A simple crush, which never started into anything, and probably never will. It's just that I've lived for so long without feeling that way, that I almost believed I would never feel that way, so it comes as a shock.

Although as you said, with the jcw's expressive eyes, it probably should be more of a shock that I'm shocked.

But as many are not as emotionally stunted as I do, they probably have experienced this kind of crazy earlier than I have, and are now used to it enough to know how to cope with it. You never start knowing how to walk after all, you learn to.
So I'm quite behind everyone else in the lesson, and panicking at how epically I'm failing to cope.

In fact, at my first realisation that I was starting to be infatuated and losing control, my immediate reaction was to search for proofs of him smoking. Because I knew that if he did, that would be a surefire to douse any power he would have on my feelings/hormones, and whatnot. It's my emergency protocol if you will. And when I found out that he did, I was never more relieved, until I realised that it did not make my attraction change an ounce. That's when I really started to panic. The emergency protocol that has worked 100% of the time so far in my life has let me down. Then I tried the gay trick, which usually I don't even have to use, but had an effect before, and this time... no effect. And on went the scenarios, and on, they were trampled. I stopped short at making him an utter villain in my mind though. I feel like he deserve more than my undeserved unjustified and self-serving character assassination of his person, just for the sake of soothing my ruffled feathers.

I'm so used to being able to feel in control of this one aspect of my life, my attraction to the other sex, that losing that is like losing my sense of understanding of who I am, almost my sense of identity?

I'm the kind of person who likes to make sense of things. So to me, it doesn't make sense that I'm feeling that way about a complete stranger, whom I don't even know, have never interacted with, don't know a single personal thing about that I can verify, and is all wrong for me. And I don't like not being able to make sense of anything, and especially of myself. I'm not unfamiliar with hormones working its chemistry, but usually, my brain can quickly overcome that, and even erase their effect with reasoning. Seems like my brain is not working properly. I'm guessing that's where the expression brain turns to mush comes from.

And like you did to, I'm pretty sure that he's not exactly what I think he is. I think more than any thing, I'm scared of the feeling of disappoint that comes after...

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....after this infatuation is over. Disappointment over him, for whatever he will do to make me stop liking him, and disappointment that this feeling didn't last. Because in my mind, I can't help but thinking that this will be over after all, as it had been for all the previous ones. It's never pleasant when you stop liking someone, and even more so when you liked that someone strongly. So why not make it over as soon as possible before it gets too far? Well, thing is, I realised that I can't. Even if I wanted to. lol.

I know for sure that this feeling will end eventually. It's just simply not sustainable. But it doesn't help me to know that. I want it to end. Now.
I almost feel like throwing a tantrum that things are not working my way. lol. It's not a pleasant feeling. But you helped ease it somehow, so thank you. ^^

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love love love jcw.... he is just so thoughtful and cute on his instagram posts...the expression in his eyes are just gorgeous...he has that special something

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OOH what's his ig account?

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OMG! He is in Thailand and spotted watching muay thai boxing:

https://instagram.com/jichangwook87/

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His instagram is great. He updates and post often. So grounded where he just post how he feels!

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I know right. I absolutely despise people who smoke, and as a a healthcare professional myself that is a BIG turn off, but when I found out that JCW smokes it didn't change the fact that I adore him even more. I mean he might stop smoking one day! D: Oh and his daily instagram selfies are SO adorable ahhh <3

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Same here. Plenty of korean actors smoke, so I don't necessarily despise them because of their culture, but as I said. Turn off. Still find them attractive in the aesthetic sense, and charming, but I cannot go crazy over someone who smokes. At least, I thought I couldn't. Until now.

It's like with him, things don't apply anymore. He smokes? Doesn't matter. (I pretend that) he's gay, he has one girlfriend, 2 girlfriends, secretly married and has a baby, got his whole face redone, etc. and it still doesn't matter. He still make my heart flutter.

I can't even go on his intagram. That's how crazy he made me.

Usually, when I like and/or crush on actor, I basically stalk them by google their pictures, etc. etc. and swoon at the pretty and handsome.

With him, it's the reverse. I run away from it as if the hounds of the devil are chasing after me. I almost had a panic attack when I goggled his picture. The first time I tried, it was ok. I actually stayed there for about 1 minute. But it got worse and worse over time. Now, I can't even stay there for more than 2 seconds.

And I just tried a video on his ig, and started closing it after less than 1 second, and started hyperventilating, and fangirling, and pulling my hair out and stomping all at the same time. Overreaction much? lol. You would think the video gave me a burn or something looking at the panic with which I closed it.

I. Have. A. Problem. Big time.

I know I sound insane. I probably am.

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Sorry those casual, regular pictures of him out in Thailand will make this worse!!

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I agree that a lot of Korean actors/actresses smoke and it is a major turn-off. But hey, maybe that's the signal for us to stop obsessing over them and get a life (HA! As if!)...

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Yep JCW is slaying me atm. The smoking thing is a deal-breaker for me but he transcends all those standards!

Good to know others are in the same crazy insane boat ;)

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If this gets any worse, I might seek therapy.

I always thought the comments about so and so being illegal bc they're so hot amusing. I'm not amused anymore. ^^""" I need saving.

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Poor platae,
I understand where you are coming from. I can't look at too many of his photos for long either. My heart pounds and I feel as if I'm going nuts. Not good for sanity.

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It's mental, but I'm like both of you! My heart palpitates madly when I look at him.
I even watched his drama episode with KARA Gyuri because of him. And despite the atrocious acting from almost everyone but him, and massively juvenile script, I fancied him even more after it. His acting was really perfect as the disdainful angel, and he's lovely to look at.

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JCW smokes? Really? Where did u read that?

He is gay AND has a girlfriend. Ha ha ha.

I like him a lot, but smoking is a deal breaker for me.

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If he smokes, maybe you can teach him a private lesson or two or many ;)

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Yes, he smokes.
You would think from how fit he is, and how he likes to work out that he doesn't, but many Korean men do.
I could tell right away from his lips, like I could tell from Lee Min Ho's lips and complexion (not so much with JCW's). There was a certain chaff dryness and blueish tinge.
In any case, I googled it to satisfy my curiosity, and he doesn't hide the fact that he smokes at all, which is in his favor. There's an instagram picture of him with a pack of cigarette on a table dining with friends, he talks about being unable to smoke and drink publicly when his role as wholesome Donghae got so famous, and also about how he didn't know how to connect with Ha Ji Won at first because she didn't smoke (there's also pictures of him on set of Empress smoking with his co-stars Joo Jin Moo), etc. I don't know if he still smokes, but from his lips, I would say yes.

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You can help him moist his lips from the dryness then ;)

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@KDaddict

Hahahaha. I didn't notice platae's joke at first until you pointed it out. She must be desperate. Poor girl

@Dramaftw

I actually first thought that he smokes from his voice more than his lips! It's a bit raspy.

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@ platae
I'm feeling the same way with the jcw obsession. His Jeong Hoo-Bong Soo is the ultimate melding of bad boy with dim, sweet nerd.
Sweet hotness overload.
Oh Lord, have Mercy!

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Darn it! I am so sorry for missing this JCW gushing thread!!!

I've always kept my eye out for him and Healer sealed the deal for me. He did the adorkable mixed in with badass very well!

As an ex-smoker myself, his smoking does not really bother me, aside from concerns about his health. In my weak moments during my College days, smoking has helped me cope with the stress and depression. Maybe its his way of coping with the stress of stardom?

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And probably also for socializing, or at least, bonding with co-workers and crew. Drinking alcohol is often another component. Pretty much what was like in the U.S. until 15-20 years ago.

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yea, I definitely think it's a socialising thing. A lot of Asian cultures, in terms of smoking, are like how western countries used to be not so long ago.

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@platae

I'm the same as you. I fell for him when I saw this interview of him.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRo-sjWuR_k

He's both so wise, and adorable, and calm and mischievous at the same time. So don't be too scared about liking him. Himnae!

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@LadyBird & @koko

Both of you are describing so well why jcw is so madly appealing.
Tbh, I don't even watch any of his interviews anymore. I'm too afraid I'll become even more infatuated than I already am, and I already handling this very badly. >.<

I remind myself a bit of suzy in dream high when she crushes on ksh. Now, I'm not sure I can watch hyemi make a fool of herself again and laugh. lol.

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OMG! That interview was so cute with his adorable reaction to the buzz thing, scared and jumping like a puppy. I just cant. He is just so lovely.

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U should look at the picture of him with half /scarce eye brows on @Jichangwookkk instagram. It will shoot your obsession of him from 10 to atleast a six, Lol. That picture is like being splashed with ice cold water. I guess they draw the rest on and he's not perfect after all.hope I've helped kekekeke.

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lol. I did. Has no effect on me, because I don't like him simply because of his physique. I find plenty more attractive aesthetically. It's more of a general feel that attracts me. And that can't be changed by lack or presence of eyebrows, unfortunately. I would love that to be the case, but if it was, he would be like a whole lot of other attractive men I know, and I wouldn't be in this muddle in the first place. I would know how to deal with it. T_T

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What in the world is happening in here! Aigoo, JCW, what have you done to these people?

Well ladies, especially @platae dear, good luck resisting his charms. I've long given up and just gave in to the temptation, am now happily residing in Ji Chang Wook Delulu-ville. ;)

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omg he smokes? god, that's also a turn-off for me but my oppas will always be an exception hahaha

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I want to Lock Ji Sung in Kill Me Heal Me as Shin Se Gi hehhe

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4. Kang-aaaah!!! I still can't get over it you know it's the first drama to make me so emotional.

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Jcw 's role in Empress ki is still my favourite,he was so complex and his character really showed how great of an actor he is.I guess that's why I like park bong soo.

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@kanz just wanted to say a quick sorry for suddenly highjacking your thread into my personal therapy place. It wasn't my intention but somehow got out of hand. Like all things seem to do with me when jcw is concerned. -___-

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@platae oh boy...I thought I was going insane but your situation is worse.
in Nigeria,we ve a saying that explains ur feelings.We call it, "This one has passed 'be careful' o"-meaning,u 've gone to point of no return lol.

Twill help if u stay away from Topics,articles or threads that has his name mentioned. :)
Goodluck!

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*double post*

Back to topic,
LMH (pray he choses a good drama to win my love for him back).

Kim bum-mie also..he's been under d Rader.

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i agree with you in the kim woo bin and park shin ye, their respective roles in heirs and pinocchio were my favorites in the roles that they have played thus far.

here's my list of hero in box... not that i became a less of a fan after these actors have moved on to other roles... its just that as a long time watcher of kdrama... these are the characters that i guess i can look back with nostalgia and these are the characters that i absolutely adored and push the right buttons for me when watch that particular drama at that time...

1. Yoon eun hye as Go Eun Chan in Coffee Prince
2. Lee Min Ho as Lee yoonsung in City Hunter
3. Kim Sun-a as Kim Sam Soon in My Lovely Sam Soon
4.Lee Sung-min as Oh Sang Sik in Misaeng
5. Lee Jung Jin as Byun Hyung-Tae in Two outs in the 9th inning
6. jang geun-suk as Hwang Tae-Kyung in You're Beautiful
7. Cha Seung Won as Dokko Jin in Best Love
8. Ji Hyun-Woo as kim Bung-do in Queen In-hyun's Man
9. So Ji Sub as Joo Jong-won in Master's sun
10. Nam Goongmin as Bong Ma-roo in Can You hear my heart
12. Soon Joong-ki as Kang Ma-ru in The Innocent m
Man
13. Jin ji hyun as Cheon Song Yi from My love From another Star
13. Joo Sang-wook as Cha Joon-woo in Single Cunning Lady
14. Ji Chang-wook as Healer
15. Bolin Chen as Li Da Ren in In Time With You

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Ji Hyun Woo will FOREVEEERRRR be Boong-do to me. Forever. I wish I could unwatch Trot Lovers.

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OMG YEEEEEEEEEES. Shame his comeback drama had to be Trot Lovers. And my dislike for his character in that certainly didnt help.

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Totally agreed. And it's a shame that Eunji chose that as her project too. With her in R1997 and JHW in QIHM, I thought that Trot Lovers was going to be amazing... but alas the power that a badly written/directed drama has...

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Good golly yes! Gotta admit that Boong Do lost a little of his luster once I watched Ji Hyun Woo in other things. Because... ughhhhh.... (actually, there is no way to type the involuntary sound I made just thinking about it).

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Haha now I want to hear what that sounds like @anniemo

But agreed, Scholar Kim Boong Do was the one character JHW has shined in. Such a great character.

All his other roles have not been too great.

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Omg, yes. I was surprised he wasn't mentioned here!!! I just want him to be Boong-do for eternity...*sob*

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me too! sigh...

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Oh yes!

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I definitely stopped watching the minute his character got too makjang and exaggerated in Trot Lovers. Thank goodness I did! His QIHM's role is still the main one in my memory.

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OH DEAR LORD I CALL DIBS ON CHOI WOO SHIK's HOGU TOO. Beta males in the kdramaverse are so grotesquely underrated I swear to god my heart just wells up with so much love and pride at how much of a revelation Hogu is to a lot of us who've been pining after nappeun namjas for years. I love him so much I legit want to either marry him or adopt him lmao

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Omg beta males are the best. Why are they criminally scarce in kdramaland, WHY?? Where’s an adorable dork when you need one? Good thing’s Hogu’s airing right now. I LOOOOVE him to bits.

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omg yes. After Kim Boong Do, I never loved a male lead this much til Ho Gu came in. (healer, woo jin, and Enrique almost) What amazes me is that sometimes I am not watching Ho Gu anymore but Woo Shik himself. I get the feeling he's so much like that in real life.

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the best thing is that he actually is kinda like that? watched snippets of him on TvN's Taxi and he was adorable.

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Damn. Lee Sang Yoon, you better be in Liar Game Season 2 ASAP so I can take another million screenshots of your face again. Actually, I need you to appear in ANYTHING so I can abuse my poor phone's buttons. My empty folder awaits, love. Leggo. *drools*

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hahhaha,.. it's the same with me...
he will appear as cameo in Unkind Women episode 3..

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LMAO I love your dedication. :)

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My dilemma is with Byun Yo-han. He was such a great revelation in Misaeng, so naturally I want to see more of him in dramas, taking up different challenges, and getting more recognition for his talents. Hopefully he'll be smart so I won't need to worry about his future works tainting my perfect memory of him as flamboyant-haired Seok-yool.

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I second and third this!

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I want to lock up Lee Jun Ki in Arang &the Magistrate. Satto!!!

but since you mention Yoochun, his new drama has a leading lady now. Shin Se Kying confirmed! Better than two of the other names linked to this drama but still not as good as Kim Ji Won.

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Sorry, I mean Shin Se KYUNG. Girl from Blade Man, Tazza 2 etc.

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Yes to Satto!!!

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Ooooh I love Lee Jun Ki as Satto! But then again, I love him in almost everything, as long as he gets to kick ass.
He's my perfect action hero!!

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Ya, but he looks soooo GOOD in that Magistrate's outfit!

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yes, yes, lock up Satto!

I love Shin Mina in too many other roles to want to lock her up as one, but if I could lock her and Gong Hyo-jin into their roles in Sisters on the Road, I would do it.

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don't forget to mention Bae Young Joon! He's been in the hero box forever, and I feel like he's never going to return to dramaland -___-. I loved him in Winter Sonata! It's one of my favorite dramas. <3

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I actually loved him more crazily in hotelier, but winter sonata is definitely the one i feel less guilty loving. Haha.

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I love love LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOVVVEEED him in Hotelier. Seriously, he was so quietly hot and smouldering, and a little cruel, and cold-hearted and analytical, and also passionate and disciplined and ruthless. So many dimensions to that, and he just did everything right. I loved the chemistry of Hotelier's OTP.. IMO, Winter Sonata's character really wasn't written as well.

I did enjoy Bae Young Joon also in that sageuk movie based on "Dangerous Liasons"...but I think my favorite performance of his has got to be in Hotelier.

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IKR! I loved him in Hotelier too!
In fact, it's his cool portrayal in Hotelier that made me fall in love with k-drama. Him and Won Bin (Autumn's Tale) to be exact.

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I've got one... Jang geun seuk as hwang tae kyung. (I also wouldn't mind jeremy in that box).

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I keep adding...

Yoo ah in as guh ro. Also, sjk as yonghwa, but i love him in other roles as well.

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god, YES.

only he seems to have done it to himself first by basically only playing versions of Tae-kyung for the next five years. (shame because he is talented and can do more)

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LOL.. we usually play name that kdrama frm the ost during our 4hrs drive to/from my hometown. There's a bunch of his songs in in that playlist so whenever we hear his voice even when u cant recall the name of the drama saying it "this is hwang tae kyung when he is a photographer" still gv u point

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no one remember Gaksital ? I wish Joo Won as Gaksital for forever... but... haaaaa..... thankfully I adore Good Doctor and Cantabile Tomorrow. not like the other drama 7th Grade_____________. what's the title again ? but I always wish Gaksital as the best character Joo Won ever take.

okay.. I need to admit that I kind of love characters in disguise or have dual characters.. like Healer (my current favs which beats all my other superheroes in disguise).. City Hunter, Bridal Mask, Joseon Gunman, Two Weeks (fugitive in disguise) (wait, does Hanjo fugitive in disguise too ??), Time Between Dog and Wolf. haa, enough Lee Joonki there.

I love those dramas where I always waiting for the moment their disguise to be reveal. u know, my heart goes thump.. thump.. *Chae Youngshin style*

but yup, we always love their previous character more than the recent ones. where we wish to lock them a box. but they need to move on.. (while I can't) I always end up watching their previous dramas with my fav character and say.. "I never imagine City Hunter and Kim Tan are the same guy."

but at the same time I'm always anticipate their new projects. but I never can faded my memories with the characters I loved.

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Completely agree with your last 2 paragraphs.

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Yeeesss Joo Won as Gaksital is my fave!! But because he's such a fantastic actor, I love him in other characters too. I especially adore him in Ojakgyo Brothers (he and UEE are just so cute together)
Thankfully he likes to choose very different character in each of his project, so it doesn't seem like watching the same actor. And yeah.. let's forget his 7th grade something something...

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Lol....I love your conversations...You can keep the bad boys, cold chaebol and dim sweet nerds. I'll take the psychiatrist with the complex aka Chun Jung Myung. <3 ;)

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The moment I started reading the article I automatically thought of YEH. I really like her when she did Goong and all the more when she did Coffee Prince. Because I really do like her I have watched almost all of the dramas she did afterwards but gahhhhhh... It would end in: I finish the drama while losing some of my hair or I stop watching in the middle or I don't start it at all.

There are really a lot of actors and actresses that I would prefer if they stayed in a particular character if only they chose follow up projects better from the previous ones they did. Or I could just pretend they never did any projects that ruined it for me and keep the those that I love on an endless loop of replay.

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Eunji was THE definition of fangirl in Reply 1997 <3

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I love ji sung right now. I love him in kill me heal me. I love him so much I want to see him in everything. So I am the opposite of javabeans in the sense when I love an actor and I am confident in their acting skills, I trust them to do anything.

I am about to commit sacrilege here, but yoon Eun hye is really not a good actress. Maybe she would get better roles offers if she was a better actress.

That is what I fear will happen to park shin hey as she grows older. The high schools are a no go. The peppy roles are gone and then what?

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YEH is still getting work, she was never actually bad in hervlater roles just that the drama stories were bad.

I guess Park Shin Hye can have a long career too as long as she picks good projects like Pinocchio. Its not as if 30 year old women in kdtamas are never peppy, look at Gong Hyo Jin (much more talented but you get what I mean).

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I always get excited when GHJ is attached to a project cause I know she dislikes cinderella stories and candy characters. I can always trust that she'll choose good roles. And indeed, her characters are great. Spunky, quirky, peppy roles are not just for the young'uns. Not that >30 is old anyway.

I am unashamedly a GHF fangirl lol but I'll stop now.

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*GHJ fangirl, sorry.

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me too, me too! Hi fellow Gong Hyo-jin fangirl!

I've seen almost all her projects, and in a career of 15+ years there is not a single bad performance. She was a true talent from day 1.

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I think YEH is actually a pretty good actress, she just doesn't have much luck in choosing the best dramas or roles. And tbh, I don't fault her much for that or any other actor as well. They sort of take a risk with drama productions, they read a few scripts and hope for the best. You'll never know what direction that drama will take, you notice that a lot of dramas go downhill in later episodes, right?

PSH hasn't done a lot of high school roles, it's just the image that's stuck with her. She did say in her one of her recent interviews, that she'll not take up a student role as her next project. I think Pinocchio showed her worth and I hope she'll choose better roles and projects too.

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YEH was what got me into Korean Drama, so she and Goong has a special place in my heart. Sadly, I never watched any of her drama since then. I keep her in a box lol

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I mean "who" -___-

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uuuuugggghhh
Lee Sang Yoon in Liar Game was like a hallelujah where have you been moment. Brainy is def. the new sexy.

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Oh ! Sung Joon was perfection in Shut Up Flower Boy Band !

And, I think so was Kim Woo-bin in White Christmas. Mad Mireu is his best character so far.

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Mad Mireu & Elmo :)

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I agree with your list! But I'll have to add a few more epic characters.

Queen Seondeok:
Ko Hyun-Jung - Mi-Sil
Kim Nam-Gil - Bi-Dam

Best Love:
Cha Seung-won - Dokko Jin

Two Outs in the Ninth Inning:
Lee Jung-Jin - Byun Hyung-Tae

Punch:
Kim Rae Won - Park Jung Hwan

Chuno:
Jang Hyuk - Lee Dae Gil

I Hear Your Voice:
Lee Bo-Young - Jang Hye-Sung

Three Musketeers:
Seo Hyun-Jin - Yoon-Seo

Misaeng:
Everyone

Soulmate:
Shin Dong Wook - Shin Dong Wook
Lee Soo Kyung - Lee Soo Kyung

You From Another Star:
Jun Ji Hyun - Chun Song Yi

Kill Me, Heal Me:
Ji Sung - All 7 personalities

And Lee Je-Hoon broke my heart in Bleak Night.

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Ko Hyun Jung is QUEEN. I love her so much. And I miss Lee Jung Jin ;;

I love these characters too, but it's intriguing to think of what the actors could do in other roles as well. It's interesting to think of Kim Rae Won as a cute bumbling misfit in a rom-com or something. And it'd be great to see Jun Ji Hyun thrive in a serious, emotive role.

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Yes, I'm sure Kim Rae Won would be great in a rom com as an adorkable misfit, but I just LOVE him in Punch. Jung Hwan is the perfect anti-hero that you hate to love. He's ruthless (with good reason) and perfectly flawed in the best way. In his own words that succinctly describes his character, "Are there right answers in life? There are only choices."

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Agree with everyone in Misaeng. Whenever I see Oh Min Suk in KMHM, I miss his manager kang.

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Me too!! He was perfect as Manager Kang.

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