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Kill Me, Heal Me: Episode 16

Do-hyun and Ri-jin finally get to ride the Snowflake Train, but is it the end of the line for them as a couple? The sweetness is undercut by the reality of their situation, and the thread of melancholy that has been with us ever since Ri-jin’s memories started unfurling continues to grow.

We’re several steps closer to exposing the rotten core of Seungjin, and the black hearts inside it. But the question we’re left with is, as ever: What does it mean to be Cha Do-hyun?

EPISODE 16 RECAP

Do-hyun and Ri-jin separately get ready for their day out, and Do-hyun’s burdened expression contrasts sharply with Ri-jin’s excitement. He finds Se-gi’s toy train in his wardrobe, and it reminds him of little Ri-jin.

Finally on the Snowflake Train, Do-hyun writes busily in a notebook while Ri-jin enthuses over the scenery. She fakes seeing a deer to snatch his notebook from him, and reads off a list of questions: hobbies, favorite colors, favorite things. He defensively reminds her that she told him that if they took a trip together, he could get to know her more.

She laughs at his strictly regimented schedule, and pounces on one of his items… which finds them playing the Zero game. His slow reactions crack her up, and she gleefully delivers wrist-smacks as punishment. When he declares it all invalid, his callback to Se-gi makes her grin even more.

They scramble off at their stop. Inside the train hang postcards they’ve written commemorating the happy moment. Ri-jin’s thanks him for keeping his promise, and Do-hyun’s characteristically says, “Remember: 26th February, 2015.”

Skipping ahead, Ri-jin tells Do-hyun her newly remembered memory. She was playing with a train set with another kid, and they promised to take a faraway train trip when they grew up. She tells him that Ri-on would say the kid was him, but she knows it wasn’t.

Grandma gets the report that Do-hyun’s uncle is urgently seeking a child. Her aide adds that her longtime boardroom supporters had a secret conference with Uncle, and points out that firing Do-hyun has left her at a disadvantage for the upcoming shareholders meeting. The suggestion that she might want to recall him makes her grim.

On his way out, the aide catches Do-hyun’s mom listening at the door.

Mom dines with Uncle, who guesses the reason she summoned him is to take care of Do-hyun. Since she’s only after capitalizing Do-hyun’s interests, it doesn’t matter whether it comes from Grandma’s side or his. Mom wants him to fork over the management for the group’s department store and car subsidiaries to Do-hyun, which is more than Uncle has in mind. He wants to know what’s in it for him.

Do-hyun giggles at Ri-jin’s kimbap-fail, and she swears they didn’t look like that in the morning, ha. As they slurp noodles, she confesses her two failings: she can’t cook (unlike her mom), and she sucks at arithmetic (like Dad).

He asks her how she takes after her brother, and she quips that they have a tendency to use their fists before their words. Also, neither can refuse other people’s requests, and they share a fear of basements. The last almost makes his smile slip.

An interlude takes us back to his conversation with Ri-on the day before, when he told him he had read “The Child in the Basement.”

He fills Ri-on in on how the story continued: The girl and the boy promised to meet every night at 10 o’clock, in the basement where the girl was locked up. Ri-on asks why the girl had to be hidden away. Do-hyun hasn’t found that out yet, but he begins to tell the story of what happened there 21 years ago.

In the present, Ri-on packs up and drives somewhere while Do-hyun’s story continues in voiceover. Keeping their promise to meet was hard, he says, because if the boy was found out or did something wrong, his father punished the girl instead.

Ri-jin and Do-hyun madly pedal a railrider along a country track, cheering each other on, while Do-hyun’s narration continues:

Do-hyun: “The boy who could not protect that girl took his memories of despair, pain, and powerlessness and sealed them up. And then he carved up his own self into pieces. But the sealed memories went wrong. He mistook the terrible abuse the girl suffered as his own memories, because he had wanted to suffer that abuse instead of the girl. Because he’d earnestly hoped that he’d be the one to feel the pain that the girl suffered.”

Ri-on reassures Do-hyun that he isn’t to blame: He didn’t stand idly by, and was a victim himself. Pretending not to see anything is always easiest — if just one of those bystanders had done something, then the victim’s soul wouldn’t have been ravaged, Ri-on says.

Do-hyun asks him to write that novel on Seungjin. This time, Do-hyun will provide the material — his only condition is that Ri-on make it a bestseller.

Back in the present, Ri-jin reminisces with Do-hyun about fighting with her brother during a family holiday when they were kids. She tells Do-hyun that she learned some martial arts techniques from Ri-on, and laughingly notes that it’s been pretty useful in life — like when she needs rein in Yo-na. The mention makes him shudder, and she pokes fun at him.

In answer to his question, Ri-jin tells him her name means “bright treasure,” as in clever. Do-hyun tells her it suits her, and promises to remember it for a long time. Gah why does everything sound like goodbye?

They walk together along the railroad, and when she sees the sea, Ri-jin runs ahead into the waves. Do-hyun hangs back.

“Oh Ri-jin…” he starts. She stops him — she knows what he’s going to say. His lost memories have come back, haven’t they? And she’s in them. She thinks they must be bad memories that would be upsetting for her to remember, and that’s why he’s planning to say goodbye now. She faces out to sea, eyes full.

Do-hyun thanks her for all she’s done. He tells her that his grandmother and mother know about his illness, and he no longer needs her services. Therefore, their contract is over as of today.

Her back still to him, she keeps her tone bright and tells him he should leave first, if he has the confidence to show her his back. He goes.

Ri-on arrives as Do-hyun leaves, and drops a blanket over Ri-jin’s crouched figure. She takes it off, and he pulls out his usual bluster and takes her away to get warm.

Over a hot meal, she wonders if the two of them planned this whole thing together. He admits they did, the day before at the hospital. Do-hyun was going to break up with her, but couldn’t bear to leave her by herself.

She hasn’t got much to say to that, and just tucks into her soup like it doesn’t matter. Ri-on’s concerned and begs her to react, to curse him or Do-hyun (“that jerk”).

She tells him that Do-hyun wants to keep her from remembering the bad memories of her past. Ri-on agrees with that line of reasoning, and says that she’s been fine all this time without those awful memories. Her life is good. She has her family, and they have each other — can’t they go on as before?

Seeing her hold it in, he tells her to just let it out and cry, and she finally lets herself.

Do-hyun’s not doing much better at home. Chief Ahn finds him stretched out on his couch, arm over eyes. Do-hyun tells him Ri-jin’s last words, and how he turned away so coolly. Chief Ahn asks if he’s been drinking. He has, but he’s not drunk, Do-hyun replies. He wishes he were crazy-drunk right now, so that Se-gi or Perry would come out and take a year of his time away. But those guys are never around when you need them, he laugh-cries.

Chief Ahn, bless him, puts him to bed. He tells Do-hyun that the pain of heartbreaks is not to be scoffed at. It sounds like he knows all about it, Do-hyun observes. The chief just tells him that crying could help. It’s not the same as losing your country — but Do-hyun cuts in that he does feel like he unfairly lost his country: “The country I long for all the time, even though I left.”

Over breakfast at the Oh house, Ri-on mutters to Ri-jin that she should tone it down if she doesn’t want her heartbreak to be obvious. Mom and Dad both pick up on her forced cheerfulness and wonder what’s up. They bicker about the cause — could it be that she’s not eating properly? Or maybe she eats too much and that’s why she gets treated badly, Mom says. Dad is so upset by the idea of her eating habits being criticized that he tells Ri-jin to quit right away.

Right on cue, her luggage from Do-hyun’s house arrives back. They’re shocked that that she was fired, but Ri-jin points out that Dad told her to quit, and takes credit for obeying him so promptly. She shrugs off Ri-on’s help and leaves to unpack on her own, while Dad still thinks she lost the job because of her eating, lol.

Alone, Ri-jin sighs over her bunny pajamas, wishing she had given them to Yo-na. She’s interrupted by a call — it’s Grandma Seo.

Do-hyun and Dr. Seok talk, and Do-hyun tells him how he’s sharing Se-gi’s memories and also slowly recovering his lost childhood ones. Dr. Seok muses that only integration is left now, before he goes back to the U.S. Do-hyun doesn’t plan to return yet, though — he still has to uncover why that child had to be hidden and why she was abused, he says. Only then can he begin to make amends. Dr. Seok, who doesn’t yet know that child was Ri-jin, tells Do-hyun he should continue receiving her private help.

Ri-jin is shown into Grandma’s study and the housekeeper makes a secret call to Chief Ahn to let him know. He takes the call while meeting with Min Seo-yeon’s former driver, trying to track down the employees from the day of the fire.

Chief Ahn updates Do-hyun on the investigation. As an afterthought, he adds that Ri-jin was summoned by Grandma — news that sends Do-hyun racing to his car.

Grandma is displeased to find out Ri-jin is no longer Do-hyun’s secret doctor, and dismisses her. But Ri-jin pauses to say one more thing, as his former doctor: He can’t heal from his illness alone, and he badly needs his family’s care. If his grandmother helped him find out his past, it could help his treatment. Oh Ri-jin, if only you knew.

Grandma warns Ri-jin that she is overstepping. True to form, she only has scorn for Do-hyun and asks what help there is for someone who’s stuck on the past. Does Ri-jin want her to apologize?

Ri-jin replies with a quote from Swiss theologian Karl Barth: “While no one can go back and create a new beginning, everyone can start anew and create a new ending.” Grandma does not like being schooled, and orders her out.

As Ri-jin leaves, Grandma mutters that she’s impertinent, dislodging an old memory of those same words. She freezes. When she catches sight of the photos of Do-hyun’s dad, her breath catches and the room darkens around her. Grandma watches her like a hawk as the housekeeper helps her outside.

Before Ri-jin can exit the house, she’s gripped by another flashback. Little Ri-jin plays violin, accompanying the boy on the piano. He gets it wrong, and Evil Dad approaches Ri-jin with a cane, sneering that she’s just like her mother. He drags her away, while a sobbing Do-hyun begs to take the punishment instead of her.

Ri-jin stumbles from one memory to another: She’s locked in the basement, rattling at the handle. Then, she backs into a corner as Dad approaches with his arm raised. The boy’s appeals for her to be spared are constant, and little Ri-jin pleads for mercy.

Finally out of the house and in the present, Ri-jin recalls Do-hyun’s mission to find the child in his basement. She suddenly wonders if that child was her. The pieces come together in her mind, like Do-hyun’s apology for being late being an exact echo of the boy of her memories. Which means…that boy in her memories is Do-hyun?

She remembers Do-hyun telling her to stop searching out her lost memories for his sake. As the full implication hits her, she collapses to her knees.

Just arrived, Do-hyun sees her and comes running. But she’s lost in the pain of her memories, and reflexively curls into a ball, crying. He reaches for her — and stops himself, allowing the housekeeper to bundle her inside.

Do-hyun bursts into Grandma’s study, demanding to know what she said to Ri-jin. Grandma says she wanted to consult with his doctor, and Do-hyun asks what more she can possibly want to find out about him. Characteristically, she ignores him and instead tells him join the company. She wants him in the construction subsidiary, and tells him to prepare for a shareholder meeting.

Do-hyun declines (yeah! Stick it to her!). She’s taken aback by his refusal, and he repeats what he told her before, that he has things to do. He won’t return to the company. With that, he exits.

A dead-eyed Ri-jin meets with Ri-on. Staring out the window, she asks him to interpret her “nightmare.” She describes the boy playing on the piano who made a mistake, and how a man imprisoned her in the basement because of it. Every night at 10 o’clock, she waited for the boy to come and play with her. Was that boy Ri-on — or was it Cha Do-hyun?

Ri-on asks if her memories have come back. She wonders just how much he knew, and how much he and Do-hyun colluded to keep the truth from her. But, she tells him, she’ll find out for herself.

Ri-jin finds her mom, and can’t help crying as soon as she sees her. She tells Mom that she’s curious now about her birth parents, and what kind of people they were.

Chief Ahn has some new documents for Do-hyun’s investigation. He gives him a copy of the family register, and Min Seo-yeon’s immigration records. The latter show her entering the country with Grandma and a 6-year-old girl in June 1993, but he points out that all official trace of that girl vanished thereafter.

But Do-hyun is confused by the family register. His dad returned to Seungjin with Do-hyun in order to enter him into the registry so he could enter school. But why is his name already registered here months before anyone knew of his existence? Oh man, I have a weird hunch.

Ri-jin’s mom gives her an envelope containing some of her birth mother’s effects. Ri-jin doesn’t have the courage to look at it right away and instead asks her mom to tell her more about Min Seo-yeon. She was capable and kind, Mom says, like Ri-jin. But marrying into a rich, messed-up family changed her.

Mom explains that Seo-yeon had loved someone else, but was pressured into her marriage. She was so competent that her father-in-law (i.e., Do-hyun’s grandfather) preferred her to his own son. In the end, her husband fell out badly with his father and left, finally giving her the divorce she begged for.

Seo-yeon confided to Mom then that she’d found her man, and she was going to the U.S. to be with him. Mom surmises that that man was Ri-jin’s biological dad. But he was dying, and Seo-yeon returned to Korea with Ri-jin.

Mom stops there, and promises to tell her the rest slowly. Ri-jin apologizes to her, and tearfully tells her it’s not because she doesn’t love her. It’s just that the memories keep rising up and torturing her. Mom, also crying, reassures her that she understands.

Do-hyun is studying the register again, when his head rings with the pain that usually signifies a switch. Memories of both Ri-jins, child and adult, overlap in his mind. The pain intensifies and he screams.

Ri-jin opens the envelope her mom left, and recognizes the burnt photo — but this is the original, including little Ri-jin with her arms around her mother. She spills the rest of the contents out and finds the locket.

Do-hyun bolts awake, a giant teddy bear lying beside him. He slowly approaches the foot of his bed — to meet a vision of little Ri-jin. She holds her hands out for the bear, and he smiles that broken little smile as he hands it over.

She says she’ll tell him her name now, since she couldn’t last time. He already knows it, he says — it’s Oh Ri-jin. She shakes her head. He’s surprised. What is it then?

Ri-jin opens the locket to her mother’s picture. In her memory, she hears a woman call, “Do-hyun-ah!” She wonders why she’s calling Do-hyun’s name, when another memory rises.

Little Ri-jin plays on a swing and a woman calls Do-hyun. She replies, “Mommy!” and goes running to her. Her mother chides her for playing dangerously, “If Do-hyun gets hurt, do you know upset mommy will be?” Ri-jin promises to be more careful, and Mommy wraps her in a cuddle, so proud of her super-smart daughter, Do-hyun. Oh man.

Shell-shocked in the present, Ri-jin thinks, “My name is…”

Little Ri-jin confides to Do-hyun. “My name is… Cha. Do. Hyun.”

COMMENTS

Oh man. I totally have the chills. I saw this coming just a few minutes from the end, but it’s still a powerful twist. In a show that is everything to do with identity, I feel like this revelation subtly shifts my perspective of everything in the show so far, redrawing the show’s core motifs in a completely different light, like the “I’m you”/”You’re me” theme, or his “I’m Cha Do-hyun” refrain. It even changes the nature of the most fundamental question underpinning the whole show: Who is Cha Do-hyun?

What a simple, ingenious and cruel way to wipe out the existence of Min Seo-yeon’s child. No wonder Grandma is terrified by the idea of it coming out. Speaking of whom, it was so satisfying that Do-hyun incisively cuts her strings. The thing about puppeteers is that they can only manipulate you if you want something they have. Do-hyun doesn’t, so he’s free to rise above their game, and remind Grandma that she can’t just have something because she wants it. For now, I’ll take her getting a figurative slap in the face (though a literal one would be nice, too), but damn, I hope that by the end of the show, she and Mom are called to account and punished, even if, Brothers Karamazov-style, it’s in the stew of their own guilt.

But is Mom worse? Grandma has (relatively) no soul to begin with, but it looks like Mom cashed hers in to buy a place in Seungjin, and sold her son out at the same time. If there’s a more reprehensible motive in renaming your own child, denying how your actions contributed to his mental breakdown, and refusing to stop despite his begging…I don’t even want to know. She obviously loves Do-hyun after a fashion (I think?), but what kind of love is it that doesn’t see the person he is and the suffering he endures? So Mom, you win at failing, and if Grandma is Lucius Malfoy, you — weak and greedy — are Peter Pettigrew.

Do-hyun’s question begins to be answered: Why was Ri-jin abused? I think his dad saw Ri-jin as little more than an avatar of her dead mother, and you can’t get back at dead people. Overshadowed by a capable wife whose love he could not win, and belittled by a father whose confidence he couldn’t gain, his sense of inferiority and his ballooning resentment against them both probably fed into each other. And with an enabling mom at cross-purposes with accepted morality, reframing his feelings and actions as legitimate wouldn’t even have needed much effort.

I wonder if the show’s slightly Nietzschean undertones are intentional, like the idea of redefining morality for one’s own purposes, or the role of action versus inaction (although I hasten to add I am an amateur at philosophy, so please do correct me if I’m wrong). With the belief that the capacity for guilt is embedded into the human psyche, and innately connected to the capacity for memory, the idea that “only something which continues to hurt stays in the memory” makes a triangle of memory, guilt and pain — a trifecta that is at the root of the majority of ills in this show.

Do-hyun’s overwhelming guilt comes to the fore again this hour, really epitomized in that moment he’s about to reach for Ri-jin, but pulls back. Grandma has a point about not holding on to a past that can’t be changed or undone, but Ri-jin is more right — if the injuries of the past aren’t treated, the pain will prevent them from moving forward. And that’s why “heal me” isn’t just a gimmick, but a necessary measure to ensure they can moor to their lives in the present.

Ri-jin’s indomitable spirit bore out in what was really her episode. I’m glad she got angry with Ri-on, who in being a good brother, can be high-handed to the extent that it erases her agency. She gets to choose if she gets hurt, it’s not up to him (or Do-hyun) to decide. So I agree with her cutting loose from him. For now, she needs to do this on her terms, and if that means on her own, then on her own it is.

That’s why I actually think the couple need to be apart for now (so they can be together later, of course). Both of them have things they need to do alone. Ri-jin is beginning to regain her own lost memories and Do-hyun can’t help her deal with them, not when he’s struggling with his own. The caregiver dynamic makes Ri-jin protective, instinctively putting him first. His break-up is partially acknowledgement of that inequality and his current inability to level it even though he badly wants to. He’s already wracked with the guilt of failing to protect her in the past, and nor can he protect her now, as the previous episode proves.

I’ve heard some unhappy rumblings about this week’s episodes (purplecow and I aren’t friends anymore)(lol no, just kidding). On the opposite end, I really liked the tone and direction of the story this week, and feel the characters stayed true to themselves. Ri-jin proved she isn’t playing second fiddle (hur) in Do-hyun’s hero’s journey, but is forging her own path. Nor do I see Do-hyun as a noble idiot: He leaves her because he can’t live with himself, not for her own good. After three-quarters of cute/funny, I think the show’s earned its angst — purposeful and necessary given where things are headed. Mental disorder and child abuse are not, after all, light topics, and addressing them properly can’t be a jovial affair. Like I said at the beginning, the premise is only a comedy on the outside, but at its core, it’s always a tragedy. Let’s weather it with Do-hyun and Ri-jin.

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That twist. My mind is blown

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Ikr? I didn't see it coming at all, so it even took me a while to understand what exactly the twist WAS I was so shocked and confused! *applause for show*

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love Oh Ri On's hair color, especially under natural light. any idea on the exact shade?

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I think we, the audience, were directly mislead about ORJ's real name. We had Na na, who we all thought was based on her and was her actual name. When it was revealed that it was not (it was the name of the bear instead), the comparison to the other reveals made it less important, almost like it was a footnote instead. So we didn't focus on it as much as the other problems in the drama

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And that is what makes an excellently written story.

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yep they cleverly threw red herrings so we'd never see this coming. I was sure nana was ri jin's previous name before they revealed it was the bear (such a brilliant feint, the sketches by yo sub also showed the girl clutching the bear didn't it? i don't recall clearly, but i think it did, which noone noticed but now makes sense (also what's cha do hyun like when his teddy bear personality comes out? very curious to see xD) in any case the writer is quite fantastic in her reveals). on another note i didn't know do hyun was a gender neutral name, or are all korean names gender neutral?

great recap Saya, really enjoyed your comments, and I agree the angst was unavoidable and needed with such a topic (though I love the funny bits)

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Same here. But rather than admiring the plot I was like more concern for DH, not only RJ was his whipping boy, but he inadvertently stole her name too? The GUILT.

So what is his name? As if he needed to be more wavering in his conviction of who he is, his name isn't even his real name? Then who is he? I'm worried about his feeling of self-identity now.

So okay, a name doesn't make you who or what you are but it helps, you feel me?

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I sure feel you Julia, I am terribly sad for him too, I can imagine his guilt and now his identity lost, so whats the meaning of all the struggles he has been through all this time, I do hope he wont feel that way for a long time, its just 4 more episodes you know huhuhu

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It's probably Shin Se Gi. His mother is named Madam Shin and if you rewatch scenes of Se Gi, he often says things that make it seem like Cha Do Hyun is actually Shin Se Gi (name wise). Besides, it would fit Se Gi's personality. He is everything that is considered Cha Do Hyun's past childhood. He is what Cha Do Hyun forgot, and in one way when they changed his name, he lost his real name "Shin Se Gi", too.

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Love your observation! This makes so much sense!

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It would be nice if it is Shin Se Gi. After all, he is the one who recognized her immediately and fell in love with her as soon as they met.

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True

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*SHOCK*!!!!!

What a mind-blowing observation! I mean the ending reveal of "My Name is Cha Do-hyun" was jaw dropping but your point is so on point! Se-gi was the 'stifled life' that hid when he had to put on a new name on top of all the other confusing things that were happening (his grandfather & 'mom (legal family register mom)' died, confused as to why she was hit when he made a mistake, his dad prob separated him from the mom (Madam shin?) and just brought him to the imposing family house - i don't think they were all there together like 'we're a family, hi')

rambled - but yea, great great connection you made, Lisa

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What I think is awful is: when they get back together, how can he look deep in her eyes and call her Cha Do Hyun??? That's like adding insult to injury to both of them.
And its so sick!!!

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I get what u mean. And now that our puppy has just found out that he is not the real Do Hyun, perhaps this is when Mr. X will come out. Maybe mister X represents that part of Do Hyun that knows that he is not really who he thinks he is. I mean, he is called "Mr. X" for a reason. We don't really know much about him and surely that's intentional. Still, when will we meet him? The preview doesn't show him.

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After I watched this ep raw when it aired, I was so shocked and mind blown that I was not able to watch another drama the whole day and I even dreamed about it.??? It gave me the chills, I was totally creeped out by the extent of psychopathy of the people that broke this 2 children.???? Major applause to writer-nim for this totally unexpected twist! ??

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I think Shin Se Gi is Cha Do Hyun’s birth name :)

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that would be mind blowing! even more than it is right now. just twist the knife into the wound

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I think there is one more name listed for Ji Sung in this drama besides Shin SeGi, Perry, YooSub, and YooNa. Saw that on wiki, but it was still written as "X" only.

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Me too. I was like whaat ! What did I just see @[email protected]

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It was more about how the structure of this show hit us from comedy to full on angst. We know it was expected but have only that loses itself from the fun. Lets get back on track show.

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Thank you both for the recap!

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Hmmm, I agree more with Saya. I expected the show to go this route emotionally and I think it's necessary for the story, so I'm not too upset about it. As long as we do get some more fun before the end! I'm sure we will :)

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the point is NOT

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the point is NOT whether it is necessary or not. It is BORING to watch when they do it. I don´t want to yawn through the episode.
I still love you, Show! Please get back on track and be like yourself again - this doesn´t mean all fun and humor, but be self-conscious, unconventional and poignant.

what I want most is a proper conclusion and happy end to all alters, MEN KEEPING THEIR PROMISES like overcoming together etc (I bet 10 O´clock still has a role to play)

and it would be GREAT if someone was watching Ri On and writing a book about him. Like.... Mom? hahahaa he would so deserve it!

there is only 2 weeks left. I feel like I can´t watch at all this week, I want to stall it as far as possible. what to do?

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I seriously don´t like the guys deciding things for Ri Jin. chauvinist act like this doesn´t suit the vibe.

tbh I have a hard time to swallow the name switch because Do Hyun does not sound like a female name at all. I don´t know. maybe it is very feminine. I did call Shin Se Gi being an original identity in the beginning but then they thoroughly distracted and confused us!!! show did a good job with us not trusting our intuition.

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"I seriously don´t like the guys deciding things for Ri Jin. chauvinist act like this doesn´t suit the vibe."
Totally. I get that Ri On is doing out of love and wants to protect her, but he still doesn't get to make her choices for her.
I would like to see Ri Jin say something to him along the lines of, "You said you wanted a sister who fights back. Let me fight."

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oy, that is a good line! thumbs up! like the show itself always referring back to every seemingly insignificant detail at first glance that turned out to be one of the main pieces in the puzzle

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I would say the "Cha Do Hyun" persona IS the original personality...but when he lost his memories and split himself his frustration and anger emerged in a personality under his REAL name

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[I have a hard time to swallow the name switch because Do Hyun does not sound like a female name at all.]

Dohyun can be a unisex name. The thing is, after so many hours of seeing DH as a name for a man, we can no longer easily separate the name with the image that has been associated with it for all these time. I feel really weird to imagine Ri Jin's face and call her Dohyun.

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In my own language we have plenty of unisex names who doesn't sound specialy male nor female, obviously... Nothing shocking to heard that DoHyun is unisex.... ùJust keep in mingd it's not an American show, you might be less disappointed.

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Oh. Well, I wasn't particularly bored either.

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Well everyone who wanted Segi to be the original personality, you got what you wished for! lol, sort of... *evil cackle* >:P

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I guess that is what it meant when his behavior showed more and more signs of merging with Shin Se Gi, in fact it wasn´t merging, he was becoming his self. and once he is himself he has no need for the other alters :-((( BUT WE DO!!!

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Omg I just realized that Shin Se-gi got the same last name as his mom Shin Hwa-ran. It is starting to make sense now, since he was born out of wedlock and could have taken his mom's last name. (Others must have already noticed, I am so slow haha :P)

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I don't think that Shin Se Gi is Cha Do Hyun's real/birth name. Remember that Do Hyun has already mentioned Shin Se Gi's name in front of his mom (That his mom already met one of his alter personality), but his mom doesn't seems really shocked. Sorry for my limited english ^_^

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But he didn't mention the name, as far as I remember.

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no, he did. eps 15, 50:31

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Idk. Suppose the mom is not reacting to the name, Shin Se-Gi because it was his name anyway?

This show sends my mind into overdrive. But I do still think that the name Shin Se Gi probably isn't his real name. His name could really be anything, who knows? The show always reminds us that we really do not have all the pieces to the puzzle.

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Yesss. Recap of my fav. Drama. You guys are too good to us @purplecow & @saya

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agree, love both of them ^__^

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Thank you for the awesome recap, Saya!

Bah, it wasn't enough for the writers to get me crying in ep 15 that they had it to in ep 16 as well? T.T

That being said, I absolutely loved this episode. ORJ was simply awesome and I loved how HJE acted out her letting CDH go. For me, that's what it meant. It wasn't CDH letting ORJ go as I thought in ep 15, it was the other way round. She let him go, since she understood how difficult it was for him to be with her after remembering what terrible memories they had shared. One thing I didn't like was ORO calling CDH a 'jerk". It's a minor quibble but I feel it is unfair since ORO is the only one who has witnessed the pain CDH went through while taking about separating from ORJ.

Another scene that I absolutely loved was the mother-daughter scene with ORJ and her Mom. her mom didn't keep anything from her, and gave her the freedom to cope up with it. When ORJ said that the memories were difficult to bear, her Mom said she understands since she's her Mom- it just broke my heart.
That twist in the end, though- writers, you win. Other than the battle that CDH went through with SSG in the previous episode, I think the real battle is now. His identity as CDH is wiped out in one swoop. All his clinging to that name every-time, his words "I'm Cha Do-hyun" is turning out to be one big lie- which will either break him or make him stronger. I think we'll finally see the unknown Mr.X (I hope). I'm more interested in how ORJ deals with it. Does she go to CDH that she knows they should work this out together or does she dig deeper before she goes to him?

Show, what are you doing to me?

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Addition: Absolutely loved your analogy of Grandmom being Lucius Malfoy and his Mom being Peter Pettigrew, @Saya!
I wish I could chant Expecto Patronum to make all the Dementors/bad memories go away from CDH(or the male CDH)!!

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*and the male CDH

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LOL

plus can we turn them into frogs or something???

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LOL gram already looks like a stuffed frog

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LOL. I love it! That Harry Potter reference is simply GOLD!

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Well said Saya. Well said.....

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beautifully stated

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+1 well weell said, Saya :D

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Yup. That's exactly my sentiments. When the show is funny, it's funny. When it's angsty, it's painful to watch :( These two were just kids and the adults did this to them. Sigh.

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RJ was so cute and looked so happy at the beach before DH broke her heart......and felt so sad when she was crying with RO at the outdoor restaurant.

I was so shock by the twist also even though I spoiled myself before watching ep. 16. I couldn't even imagine the root of his DID was this traumatizing....good job writers.

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I know I so regret seeing the spoliers, my mind would have been super blown otherwise

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Now then I uderstood how you felt. I spoilt myself with the preview and for once I hated my theory. _| ̄|○

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so now its all make sense why he split into 7 personalities rite, with this kind of trauma

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The scriptwriters need an award.

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LOL. I think every single person in the production deserve a prize. They made this show so successful.

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agree Beebeeshing, dont forget the awards for the personalities...LOL

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LOL. there is a that is edited by fans that give award to the most popular personality and Segi won. HAHAHAAHA *ROLLS ON THE FLOOR*

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yeah :) give all of them a credit!!! :) everyone did work hard for this to become a successful drama :)

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Yes it is. It's the synergy in the production team that makes 1 +1 > 3 effect. I don't know when can I enjoy such drama again. >__<

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This drama is playing with my brain.. I was like Oh My God at the end of drama.. But in the end, it is forming a beautiful story. Every details is beautiful...

P.S. You can vote for KMHM at dramabuzz.com! It has 6000 votes right now!

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I second that, every details in this show is beautiful to me...LOL

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This was a brilliant twist, one which all us theorizers never came up with. Only 1 more day and then it's the next episodes, can't wait!

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I take it Do-Hyun is a unisex name? It sounds so male to me....

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Doyeon has been listed by wiki as a korean unisex name. So I think we can assume that Dohyun is too.

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wow, thank u for the info IncognitoIris

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No problem :)

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Just like Kim So-Hyun is unisex name.
One is our handsome actor (YFAS) an the other is child actress (i miss you, dll)

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I think you meant Kim Soo-Hyun. But yeah, that is a unisex name, too.

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Actually the actor is Kim Soo Hyun while the child actress is Kim So Hyun. They don't have the same name. However, Kim Soo Hyun is a unisex name, as there is a female drama writer with the name Kim Soo Hyun.

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Ah, yes, those were the names I was thinking of! There's also names like Seol-hyun (from AOA), so I guess Do-hyun's not impossible!

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Wah! The signs were all there. I feel like a dummy that I never connected it all before. Still, that's one of the best twists during the dreaded angsty period in kdramas. Love the writer!

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This is such a good recap!!! AMEN to you sister! And cheers to all my fellow KMHM viewers!

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cheers ^__^

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cheerss!!!!!!

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is anyone else endlessly curious as to what Secretary Ahn´s heartbreak might be?

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I know it's a long shot, but i have a feeling that sec.Ahn is min seo yeons lover from the states and consequently Ri Jin's dad!

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oh god it would be weird. at least he is not evil otherwise it would be a Darth Vader moment.

but shouldn´t he know the childs´ name then? amd know it was a girl= he was on a task to look for the child and investigating it not knowing if it was a boy or a girl.

maybe he is Min Se Yeons´brother or something?

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That's what I thought too! He could be the brother of "Do Hyun". And reality trolled him that he is not the "Do Hyun" he thought he is. HAHAHAHA.

Or maybe he is just a very good brother to "Do Hyun" before "DH" was brought back to Korea and he just want to know what happened in the Basement. I wouldn't be surprise Secretary Ahn have this secret mission like Rion. ಠ_ಠ

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I don't think he is old enough. He would have to have been a teenager. Not impossible, just not someone a grown woman goes back to.

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Ri Jin's mom said her bio dad was dying before they left the States, though...

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I think it's a long shot. There's no urgency in Sec Ahn all throughout the drama to indicate he's in search of a missing family member. Or if he has any other motive but to protect his boss and friend.

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agree with you wholeheartedly. in how the show doesn't seem off track to me at all.. and how the arcs for the each of the characters seem genuine and instinctive.. the twist at the end was a punch in the gut and twisted my insides oh so bad. Love the show and damn its the last week!;(

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I'm sorry for being a bit slow, but could someone please give a very, VERY bare boned explanation of this twist? I mean, I know RJ is really DH and DH is really … Well, we're not sure yet. And that she is (allegedly) the daughter of the first wife. But what was the point of switching the names? I just think there's something in the timeline that I'm missing.

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the point of switching the names is that Cha Do Hyun is the name in family register.

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So is Ri Jin (I'm using their names as we have come to know them) actually the real member of that family? If so, then who is Do Hyun? Unless … do we know for sure that Do Hyun is his father's son?

See, I have this theory, but it could be totally invalid.

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did you not watch the past 4 episodes? go watch first.

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I did. But yeah I know there's something I'm forgetting. Ok I'll go rewatch.

On second thought, that'll take to long. I'll just re-read the recaps!

PS thanks for letting me know which ones.

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The reason they switched the names was because in the family registry the heir for seungjin group was cha do hyun (meaning ri jin) but after the deaths of her mum and the grandfather and the fire they (grandmonster) wanted to vanish oh ri jin and use the name in the registry for the little boy (ji sung) so that he can be the heir.

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Re the fire: my theory is that they (Evil Dad/Grandmonster - love that name!) set the fire, knowing Ri Jin was locked in the basement.

Then Evil Dad 'saved' his son to fulfil the child swap registry scam and guarantee the Seungjin Group lineage. Or maybe he was acting on Mom's orders - Jung Pyo didn't seem to care much about his son or the company anyway - he didn't come home for 6 (?) years.

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Go check out the preview for ep 17. It shows us who really set the fire. I won't say who did it, for those who want no spoilers

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*Gasps* *quickly covers mouth*

I hope that's a fake out. That's all I'll say!

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What rebecca said, and also, they kicked out a NOT blood related person and switched in a blood related person.

They were pretending that the real daughter in law - MSY and Coma dad had a child together when in fact, the original CDH
(Get it now - ORIGIN?)
was the result of an extramarital affair.

There doesn't seem to be a reason the couldn't have just set the record straight when SSG/CDH arrived on the scene.
I am not sure how important is was that ORJ was born first when she wasn't actually an heir at all. It seems like much ado about nothing. At least as far a the blood is concerned.

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Oh Ri Jin would have become heir due to the influence of her mother and the grandfather who doted on her mother - hence it was likely she would get most of the inheritance. Cha Do Hyun (the male) was also an illegitimate child of his father and another woman (which we know is he current mother). The grandmother took the chance when Ri Jin goes missing (aka gets rescued by her adoptive mom) to make Cha Do Hyun the actual child of Min Seo and therefor whatever inheritance she had (likely the company) goes to Do Hyun.

What I don't understand is
1) Why the grandmother hates Do Hyun so much, since the beginning, if infact she's done everything to make him heir including pretending he's another person.

2) Doesn't korea list the sex of the child with the name, considering so many names are unisex? Did Grandmother manipulate this or was it simply a blooper?

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Re: the first, he's basically a placeholder for comatose Dad, since she's convinced that he's going to wake up and take his "rightful" place.

(and with this show, who knows? He may well XD)

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If that dad ever wakes up he ought to be locked in jail. It should be a crime to force a child to impersonate another's identity while locking said child up in the basement.

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About the grandmother grabbing the chance to swap Jun Pyo's son into the family register in place of Ri Jin - I'm trying to figure out the timing of it, as well as how long the abuse was going on.

We know that Min Seo-yeon made a frantic call to Mrs Oh to rescue her child (I think she said she had to board a plane or something?), then she died in the car accident. We know that Ri Jin in the basement told Do Hyun that her mother was coming for her in 3 days, and he replied that her mother wasn't coming, because she was dead. Then the fire happened presumably not long after.

I think that Ri Jin was locked up in the basement for longer than 3 days, since she and Do Hyun developed such a strong bond and memories about meeting at 10pm each night, and the toy trains, etc.

Her mother Seo-yeon was in a panic before she died - I don't know if she knew about Ri Jin's abuse/imprisonment, but I think she suspected what the Grandmother was scheming.

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Forgot to add: I also think it's highly possible that Grandmonster/Chairwoman may have tampered with the car, and that caused the accident which killed Min Seo Yeon and the Chairman. Grandmother only cares about Jun Pyo anyway.

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The point of switching the children is that now the male child (the child of Jun Pyo, but out of wedlock) is the official heir. Hence the male blood line is respected.
Before the switch is was the girl who was the official heir but she is not the chil of Jun Pyo.

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Intense! I had goosebumps after watching this episode. I just love love love this drama and I don't know what to do when this is over.

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me too, I guess I'll be waiting for the next project from this sweet OTP after this is over, hope its not in a very long time

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Thank you,Saya,for expressing my thoughts when I read comments for the previous episode. I too think that the child abuse is such a serious matter that I found it right that these 2 episodes were so serious (just give me Yuna later!).

I also think that Do Hyun's decision to release Ri Jin has more to do with his guilt for what his family did to her. And here I also want to defend Rion - If I found my sister were with a person whose family abused her, I would very likely want her to be as far as possible from that person...and from any member of that family.

That twist at the end... wow, writers!

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but that person was the one who tried to defend her, failing only because he was also a scared child. if anything, keep BOTH away from the family and give the guy a shelter in your own

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I'm sorry, redfox, but I can't agree here with you. I know your point sounds rational, but that's not always how it works. As a mother of a kid who was bullied at school, believe me, there is a lot of emotions included. After 3 years of changing the school I still have difficulties to pass the old school (and it is just an innocent building ;--) ). Not mentioning avoiding teachers and parents from that school...
It just causes a lot of pain...
So... I actually find Rion quite patient with Do Hyun...

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you might not agree but I still think there should be a clear difference. just as well to say everything is guilty. but there is a perpetrator and even if someone was a bystander, if they were too weak to stand up, how are they guilty?

ah but so OH Ri Jin was the origin of cha do hyun

I feel so stupid it was just a little step further

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I have to agree with Dorotka on this. While it would be admirable to bring Do Hyun in to the family, his family is not just going to let him go (mom for power, grandmonster for seat warming). Ri On has been quite mature with Do Hyun and the situation. The fact that he went so far as to say that he felt Do Hyun was a victim too and not laying any kind of blame or guilt on him is quite remarkable. He may also believe that if Ri Jin is with Do Hyun it my also make things (emotionally and family wise) more difficult for him.

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I am curious how much ORION knows.
Does his family know ORJ was abused?

If the adults knew because maybe ORJ was bruised and a doctor found other evidence, why share that info with the same aged brother, and when would they tell him, and again, why at all?

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I don't think Rion knew for sure that Rijin was abused. He may have suspected it. Because at the end of ep 15 when Dohyun said the words "It wasn't her fault she was abused", Rion teared up along with Dohyun. It seemed like then his suspicions were unfortunately confirmed.
But i would like to know just exactly how much he does know and how he got to know about it? How did he get that picture of Rijin and her mom? How did he figure out that she was Seoyeon's daughter, if no record of such a child exists anywhere?

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i remember Orion said to Rijin, "never mention Seungjin Group or name of Cha Do Hyun in front of our parents"

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Which indicates her parents will react badly to that. I wonder if they knew that her original name was Cha Dohyun? Or the horrors she experienced in the basement?

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It's kind of amazing everyone has managed to keep that fact from them so far. The tiniest little slip and they would have flown across town and pulled her from that house.
Nothing against CDH, but they must HATE the whole SJ clan.

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these are very good questions especially about what is really the extent of Ri On's knowledge regarding Ri Jin's past. hopefully we get our answer this week.

it's time for Ri Jin's family to find out that she did work for CDH and Seungjin Group.

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Just think of how easy it would be to figure everything out if everyone was privy to all the secrets. They should all just sit around a table and take turns playing the truth game. xD

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Oh Ri On must know/suspect quite a bit from early on, since Ri Jin used to tell him all her nightmares, which he re-interpreted into 'harmless' memories for her.

Since she used to be scared of basements, and her adoptive parents used to send the twins down on errands together, to encourage her to get over it, then Ri On would also have seen that vulnerable side to her.

He probably wasn't 100% certain about the abuse until Cha Do Hyun told him at the hospital, but he at least suspected enough about the Chairman and Min Seo-yeon's affair to know that Ri Jin was a Seungjin heir, but was abandoned by the family. (I don't think he knows about MSY's phone call to Mrs Oh, though.)

I suspect the parents also know a lot more than they've revealed. They get a panicked call like that from Min Seo-yeon to come 'rescue' her child, and then decide to keep her and raise her after her mother died (rather than returning Ri Jin to the manor house) - they must have known the situation was dire.

The fact that they made Ri On and Ri Jin twins was also another way to ensure to camouflage her true identity and protect her that way (while making sure the neighbours didn't wonder about how a 2nd child suddenly appeared).

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I think you are spot on how Ri On began to suspect her being abused. I also seem to remember something about him over hearing a conversation when he was younger (not shown) about his parents talking about the Seungjin group so he might have put that together since he has known that she is not his sister.

Yeah, the parents are going to freak when they find out who Perry Park really is. (Whatever his real name may be.)

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Agree eith everything except your HP parallel. Betray her son like the weak, boot-licking rat did with the potters? Never! @Saya, dont say so, it's aint so! Mom does what is best for him. And what can be best than gaining seyoin group? (she is like oh ri on, everything he does is also in the best interests of his sis.) Mom is a tigress, fighting for cdy's best interests as she interprets them.

The writers did their outmost to explain that CDY/SSG's mom is vulgar, ambitious, her world is simple, without comlex emotions and ethics. plus the mistress probably knows well how it feels, being poor and on the bottom.
AND she hates oh ri jin as much as daddy dearest. So what's the problem? Those who stand in the way of her son should be stepped on. She'll deal with her laughably refined baby with those negligible moral principles and weakness for the daughter of her mortal enemy, that woman. ..and they'll live happily when they reach the top. Being rich, powerful - that's everything to strive for, no? I dont think she even understans why he is so upset with her, lol. But she doesnt strike me as weak, more like ignorant, incapable of feeling emotions other than hate, jealousy, and desire. In her book, oh ri jin is the intruder, she has no rights by blood, so. .. It's necessary to 'take back' the name she has no right for.

As about gram, she is more like narcissa black. A bigot, yes. Blindly loving her worthless son who left cuz daddy ( again, daddy issues) havent treated him well.
Gramos thought the wife was more competent. And now granny has to deal with the mess, with an unproper grandson whose mother cant even behave in society. And her son is in coma. Uhhh...

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Love your words!
I love how cheap mom is, and lives up to her trashy act every time she can.

My husband started watching KMHM recently. Every time I walk by and that face is on the screen, I cringe and say, "OMG I HATE YOU." He has to discover yet her evil core.

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this!!! +1

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The mom's arc was really well developed too -
At first, she was just drinking and living high on the family's money even putting up with Grandma's scorn and the put downs from the other rich ladies.

But when Do-hyun started to act a bit differently, she realized that her situation & future wasn't that certain (that Do-hyun would be successor & set her up for life) so she begins to go into tactical mode: keep tabs on Jun-pyo, scheme with Ki-joon's dad, beg Grandma, suss out what Ri-jin is (before knowing that she was Min Seo-yeon's daughter).....whatever will work, whatever will keep her in money and fine wine, she will do. Even if Jun-pyo had been in love with Min Seo-yeon, she will still want to have his child b/c that's her meal ticket for high living.

So it was a great shift to kind of take a second look at mom... from being useless and drunk to someone who's a player (power player? in a small way) in this game too.

BUT what happened to Chae-yeon? and Ki-joon? their stories kind of got dropped for a bit.

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I am not sure she likes it there. Also not sure she is drinkin cuz of good life. She dropped a line a few episodes ago about if CDY is out of the gane '...then me enduring the life in this mansion all this years was in vain...' I think she loved CDY's dad and she does all her scheming / blackmail for her kid. About the second couple - looks like ki jon's parents know clearly nothin about what happened back then at the mansion I have no idea what role this branch will play in the last episodes. .. ki jon clearly loves his ex - fiance, but that girl has absolutely no depth and ive no idea what'll they do with her character...

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Thanks Saya for the recap. It is a pleasant surprise to read it early in the morningX (I woke up too early today.)

As much as I would like to complain about previous episode for going the normal k routine, the last twist is a great redemption. The magic is not lost yet!

*cough*
So it is all about answers in this episode.

I was almost anticipating for Rijin's reaction. Like last ep recap, I see we all know how family impacted Rijin to deal with horrible people and terrible doings. The set up- warmth oh family paid off. This heroine clearly knows what she wants and upon knowing the truth slowly, we can see her getting stronger and coping better. (Kudos to HJE, she is so good at her job. Her transition is so smooth that I couldn't even!!!)

In contrast, Oh Mum is 100% opposite of "Do Hyun" Mum (I don't know what to call him anymore :(). She did her best even if it hurt her. I cheered alittle because "DH" Mum is such a disappointment. ? this ep clearly did not redeeming her at all.

As for Grandma, I always know she knows that there is something mental about "DH" (cue for Secretary Ahn) but what I didn't REALISE is grandma did know "DH" took over the real DH's identity after the fire. It took me a while to digest and realise her nasty treatment to her grandson is actually justifiable. She don't hate "DH", she "emotionally transferrence" from real DH to "DH". I could only imagine her angst while facing "DH". While she would love her grandson, the existence of Cha Do Hyun destroyed her family. All the time "DH" was assuring her that he is Do Hyun felt like double slap on her face. I actually sympthatize with her after this episode. All the talks between Mum and grandma made sense and I can't wait for the confession scene.

Segi is really far more noble than I credited him for. His whole existence was motivated, not only by hate, but most of it was to protect Do Hyun- both Do Hyuns. No wonder he only want to reveal the truth, if and only if, Rijin choose him. It felt more like covering up for Rijin rather than "DH". (Choose Segi: let RJ knows she is DH; Choose "DH": RJ is comfortable with the lies of her identity just like his "DH") Haha. I could imgaine how frustrated he is when he heard the DH = Segi talk because he knows clearly DH is one of the alter created. LOL. And all the "covering up" and "you are not strong enough to face the pain" talk between "DH" and Segi felt, in my most humble opinion, was actually Segi talking to the Rijin because he thinks exactly like "DH"- Rijin couldn't handle the pain. This is the major troll on multiple level if I also include the wheel of fortune. #wellplayed

This episode left me very satisfied even though the first half is a really sad snow train date and yes, I did hope that "DH" would hold Rijin's hand like Rijij always did. But it is also a metaphor thst Rijin have not reconcile with her past yet.

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And I felt the need to say this: every week of KMHM REALLY LIKE

KILL ME HEAL ME NAME ME. This identity thing is so confusing. HAHAH.

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LOL I'm so with you in this KILL ME HEAL ME NAME ME, but at the end I want KISS ME will be added in that

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Yes me too!!! It is so rare for me to actually wait for the hollywood style Big finale kiss in a drama!! I can't wait for Kiss Me to join the fun!

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wasn´t there a U2 song... "kiss me kill me love me thrill me" something or... was it U2? not my fav band so... forgive me if I am mistaken

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so true!!!
This show really lives up to its title!!!
Although I would looovee it to go on forever, (I know I'm being selfish here..haha) I would love to see how they bth overcome this trials they've been having and end up happily ever after satisfyingly :)

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Yes me too!!! SAME HERE. I'm dying for The next ep but I think it's killing me. This is the biggest dilemma I ever had through its run.
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Oh mom and Shin Hwaran are really good educational examples of 'what to be' and 'what not to be' for new mothers. I can't even tell if Dohyun's mom has ever put her son before herself in his entire self. She seems to (mistakenly) see her greed and thirst for power as a way of loving Dohyun and giving him what he (doesn't) want.
What you said about Seki could be true. But, can we say with certainty that Seki is the dominant personality? His words of how he would die when 'Dohyun' is able to handle the pain suggests that he is an alter.
Though I'm pretty sure Dohyun's original name could be Shin Seki, the personality of the child we've seen so far in the flashbacks is more consistent with that of 'Dohyun's' than seki's. Don't you think?

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I agree. Shin Se-gi may be his original name, but it definitely an alter personality, not the main one.

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Yes!!! Omg. Shin Hwaran needs to be educated on how to be a Mum. At this stage, she made me feel disgusted with her. Grandma maybe cold, Daddy is a abuser but she is the real culprit that responsible for "DH" DID. IMO, she is actually the monster in the family.

As for whether Segi is the dominant personality, I don't wish speculate because I know Writer nim is going troll us again. (LOL).

Having said that, I do see Segi x Rijin like mini Joon Pyo x mini Min Seo. Segi has his insecurity but I think he hasn't developed into a really violent person in the drama so far because of Rijin's assurance and unable to decide between "DH" and him unlike Min Seo. It is same but not the same tactics theme throughout the drama.

But I hope for Mr X theory to happen. He is the only person who don't have a name now. Honestly, I think he is going to appear in the first scene of the episode because "DH" is no longer "DH" (¬_¬). I believe his real name is Shin Segi too but only Writer nim knows it is true or not.

What sadden most was- like what you said: he knows DH will be killed off. This twist is something that I never see it coming just like when Segi is about to disappear. I felt that Do Hyun is a character that is doomed from the beginning. She couldn't surivive in any kind of existence and Rijin is her alter that could save her from all these darkness. I need to hug Rina now. :(

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I don't know if we can consider Segi as completely mini-joonpyo because though Segi is hot tempered and violent we've been told in the beginning that he wouldn't hurt women and children. In joon pyo his insecurities and low sense of self worth manifested as rage and hatred towards the little girl, for being like her mother.

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Hmm.. I think it was said that Joon Pyo is actually a very nice man initially that wouldn't lay a hand on children (but then it could be lies of "DH" mum). But it is his unrequited love with Min Seo (min Seo already choose another man) that trigger him turning into a monster.

And we see Segi who is obsessed with Rijin and Rijin have not choose between him and "DH". He wanted to destroy "DH" and targeted Chaeyeon (woman) when he got so jealous after realizing Rijin is in love with "DH". If Rijin had told him she made her choice, Segi might turn into abuser too.

But we don't see him really destroyed his world in the drama so far is probably because Segi has a 28 year body, think like a teenager and behaves like a 7 year old kid.

Do I make sense to you? :/

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@Beebeeshing
That does make sense. In a way.I do understand where you're trying to draw the parallel.
I would take anything that comes out of DH's mom with a grain of salt.
Segi does target Chaeyeon but I don't think he ever meant to physically hurt her. I think his goal there was to torture DH with the idea that he might. What he does do is manipulate her emotions rather cleverly.
But do you think that Segi - who handled the guilt and pain over not being able to protect Rijin and harbored rage over him being saved instead of her- would ever really abuse Rijin? Subject her to the same hell that he is so tortured over not saving her fro the last time around? Especially when Segi is as you said in a body of a 28 year old but behaves like a 7 year old.

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@IncognitoIris

"I would take anything that comes out of DH’s mom with a grain of salt."
LOL. Don't make me laughed so bad!!

Of course Segi is not going to hurt Rijin. I highly doubt so. He is doing exactly the opposite Joon Pyo did.

Jp locked DH (RJ) in basement and punish her for "DH" mistake.
Segi ask RJ to leave the house immediately upon knowing her heart siding "DH" and leave her unharmed while he wants to punish "DH" mistake.

What I mean is:

Joon Pyo = Segi
Min Seo = Rijin
Chaeyeon = the real DH ("little Rijin)
"DH" is just "DH"

you see, JP never do anything physical to MS even though he knows his love is unrequited. (Segi and Rijin). JP is obsessed with MS while Segi is obsessed with RJ. But he is abusive to people who destroy his world (Segi and "DH": this case, Segi blamed "DH" for RJ's heart and JP only left with the product RJ of his love leaving him.) so JP tortured "DH" by torturing DH (RJ) while Segi tortured "DH" by targeting CY. But on another note, let's not forget Segi was abusive to Dr Chipmunk because his existence was a threat to him (reference to 2nd episode) since he could destroy all alters (if "DH" receive treatment) or kill Segi's existence solely.

They are doing exactly the same thing but why I said that Segi is a 7 year old kid is because he only wanted a childish revenge on "DH" and RJ like he thought "DH" manipulated RJ's feelings (Which is a relief, honestly!!) If Segi has a mind of 28 years old, the revenge could be so much worse. :/

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I don't think either DH's mom or his father saw little Ri Jin as a child, female, or a human being. 'It' was an obstacle and source of shame/failure respectively.

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I agree with you too but it is a larger scale, he simply hate her existence. But I've watched ep 17 so it does changed my perspective in this show. D:

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Yo-Na please come out and pull that momster's hair for god sake!!!

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LOL...and Perry give her bombs please

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@Rain & @lara4liwa

Yes I agree!!! Omg!!! I didn't realize how much miss them until you guys mention it. ಥ_ಥ

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hahahaha

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DH (JiSung) is not an "alter". He is the main personna who did create alters including the one personnifying his emotions (including SeGi who almost certainly bear his real name and personnify rage, anger and survival, IMO)

It's "just" that DoHyun (JiSung) he has no "official identity" (animore/yet).

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I mean "Do Hyun" is an identity jointly created by the Cha family (Grandma and Mom). "Do Hyun" was placed to replace the real Do Hyun and protect Joon Pyo's seat in Seungjin Group.

(HAHAH, can I just laughed at what I am typing. It is so confusing)

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Very good points Beebeeshing. You put things in a different light than I'd previously seen before.

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Wow! Your paragraph on Se Gi was amazing. I never saw it that way, but it makes absolute total sense. The depth of thought on choosing 'DH" is complex. What amazes me is that Se Gi knows all this and is trying to get her to remember that she is 'DH'. What an amazing writer and thank you for bringing more depth to all this identity confusion.

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Thank you @Adal and @PlumWine. :D

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