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Thing vs. Thing: Seojinnie vs. Chajumma

girlfriday: I can’t really imagine a context in which you’d compare Lee Seo-jin and Cha Seung-won as actors, since they’re such different types. But as variety personas on Na PD’s shows (Three Meals a Day), sometimes it feels like there’s a meta narrative of them competing against each other, even though they’ve never even been on the same show at the same time.

javabeans: Yes. The minute Cha Seung-won (or as we like to know him, Chajumma) came onboard Three Meals a Day, people were comparing him to Lee Seo-jin/Seo Genie/Seo Genius and his image as the helpful but gruff and complainy luggage-boy-slash-farmhouse cook. And now that Chajumma’s season is over and the new season of the farmhouse edition is back, everyone’s scrutinizing Seojinnie’s cooking performance through the lens of Chajumma. “How does HE make soup? Whose bread is better?”

girlfriday: Now that we’re in the second season, Seojinnie keeps insisting that he tooooootally doesn’t care, but then Na PD has him building an oven and making his own bread just like Cha Seung-won did on the fishing island, and Seo-jinnie confesses to learning a bread recipe from a pastry chef.

javabeans: Wow, he actually went out and TRIED? That’s so against his whole Three Meals persona! The one where as long as he technically made three meals, he’s content that he’s fulfilled his variety obligation.

girlfriday: I know! The things he repeats the most on that show are: “No, why would I do that?” and “It’s okay if it tastes bad. We just have to act like it tastes good.” But with the bread, he kinda sorta tried for real. He still managed to muck it up and had to remake the dough, but yeah, that’s trying for Seo-jin.

javabeans: See, I feel like you can’t try to compete with Chajumma the master chef on his own turf. So unless Seojinnie was going for the comedy version, that was a failed mission from the start.

girlfriday: It was awesome to see him sweat as he was waiting for the oven to bake his bread. He was so nervous, it was like watching someone else. He confessed that he doesn’t like to fail and so doesn’t try new things, and that this is the most nervous he’s gotten in a long time.

javabeans: That explains a lot about him. He likes being perfect and put-together too much to let the cameras catch him being bad at things. It’s funny because in variety, you really have to show your flaws and let yourself be exposed to laughter. But Na PD let him be flawed while keeping his perfect persona together. Which explains why he’s a magical editing genie.

girlfriday: He managed to make that persona funny, like the annoyance of having a hyung who’s always, Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful.

javabeans: Yes, it’s such a pain in the ass but also appealing. Because fine, yes, you are beautiful.

girlfriday: I think sometimes that Na PD has a crush on him.

javabeans: Sometimes? Always! It’s like the kid brother who has a crush on his big bro and can’t express it in a normal healthy affectionate way, so then he just puts mice in his shoes and pudding in his pockets. It’s love!

girlfriday: You have a weird relationship with your brother, I’m thinking. I do think that Seojinnie has the edge on the bromance with Na PD, because they have such great chemistry.

javabeans: With Na PD, yes. But Chajumma has his wife too, in Yoo Hae-jin! And if i were stranded on an island, I’d trust Yoo Hae-jin to feed me more than Na PD. Fine, Na PD may be fundamentally driven to starve people so that may be an obvious statement, but we also saw how terrible Yoo Hae-jin was with a fishing pole. Still, I’d trust him to try to catch things, and if he caught them, to share them with me.

girlfriday: I can picture Na PD catching one tiny fish after five hours, and then making you play a game to win the right to eat it.

javabeans: Would you rather be Seojinnie and have to take care of your posse all the time (hence extra work), or would you rather be Chajumma and have a posse who was useless, and hence have to do all the extra work yourself anyway?

girlfriday: I feel like this is a trick question. I think my general personality tends more towards Seojinnie, because he doesn’t care, or at least gets to be grumpy about all the work he’s doing. Being Chajumma feels like too high a bar to maintain, or even aspire to.

javabeans: So you’re saying, you’d rather be Seojinnie — perfect, but grumpy — rather than Chajumma — perfect, unceasingly, without rest. I can get onboard with that.

girlfriday: Oh but Chajumma has the better posse, because Hojoonie is SO FREAKING CUTE. Plus, the puppy-kitten rivalry for his love was one of my favorite ongoing dramatic storylines.

javabeans: True, an adoring, wide-eyed posse is more fun than one who doles out praise in droplets.

girlfriday: Na PD has announced that this will be the final season of the farmhouse in Jeongseon for Three Meals, which is shorter than the four seasons they had initially planned. But it turns out that they only leased the farm for a year and ran out of time. Whoops. So I guess next season they’ll have to change it up somehow.

javabeans: He’s given coy statements in the press about the possibility of Seojinnie and Chajumma meeting, which could be a hint… but also promises absolutely nothing.

girlfriday: But wouldn’t it be awesome if they did a joint season somewhere (else) in the middle of nowhere, with much suffering and epic cooking battles?

javabeans: Dude, that would be fascinating — not because of cooking, but to see the dynamic shake out. They’re both of an age, similar in leading-man casting status, and alpha types. How would that even work? Who would be whose sidekick? Would there literally be too many cooks in the kitchen?

girlfriday: Yeah that’s the part that would make me super nervous, but also suuuuper curious to watch, because you’d be trapping two alpha dogs on an island and leaving them to duke it out.

javabeans: Omg, can you see them bringing Sohn Ho-joon and Taecyeon along, and then the two sidekicks getting all competitive?

girlfriday: My hyung’s better than yours! Mine cooks better! Mine has better hair!

javabeans: It can’t be a straight-up cooking show, because it’s too obvious that Cha Seung-won is better at that. You’ve gotta even the playing field somehow — to make it a fair battle, you’d have to introduce driving, hotel-reserving, tour-guiding, and concierge duties to the plan. Maybe drop them off in a foreign country?

girlfriday: What Na PD should do is turn guest-casting into a competitive sport between them: Who can bring better cast buddies? Seojinnie will call Ji-woo, who will bring her best friend Kim Tae-hee, and Chajumma can bring Kim Sun-ah.

javabeans: What if you made Seojinnie and Chajumma compete to win the halbaes’ love?

girlfriday: Oooh, those are some high stakes. I don’t think I could take it if Seojinnie wasn’t their number one!

javabeans: But have you SEEN Chajumma’s cooking? The way to a halbae’s heart is through his stomach, haven’t you heard?

girlfriday: Okay, it’s off to cooking school for Seojinnie!

javabeans: Although with this halbae crowd, maybe bartending school would be the better bet.

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BEST POST EVER! :D

I was waiting for this post ISTG... Ever since the new season just came out, I had a feeling a post was gonna be made in regards to the "rivalry" between Seojinnie & Chajumma. Honestly, I love both. I can't decide who is better bc they're both awesome in their own way. LOL

If anything, I would def choose Sanche over Mingki. Only bc Sanche's loveline with Hojoonie made me cry tears of laughter and jealousy. LOL XD I DEMAND ANOTHER SEASON OF the FISHING VILLAGE! (my mom & i love watching chajumma cook)

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oh wow...you beat me to first post...but it's fine...like you i was waiting for this kind of post...he he he he he

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I love the cooking portions of both versions. It's such a fun way to learn to cook (Korean).

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LOL, agree! Wonderful post indeed! I have high hope that GF and JB's ideas would pan out...cause I STILL believe the K-enters read DB. :) *hey, one can hope, right?*

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oh wow...i can't get better which of the two i have to pick...i'll be in between and bring all the camps..from taec to song ho joon and bring the girls too...make that farm/fishing crazier than it is...hopefully the first to comment..

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Love...love your witty comments...yes na pd should take yr ideas of chajumma vs seojinnie and their guests...would love to see jiwoo..kth..shg and kim sun ah together and taec and son ho jun...the rating will surely be daebak...thank you jv and gf...you re the best

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I love this post.
It'd be variety heaven to have Chajumma and Seojinnie together. Oh the possibilities......

It's hilarious how at the end of ep 3 while ppl gather around the oven to get a piece of his "newborn baby", Seojinnie keeps insisting "That's French bread; It's supposed to have a hard crust; It's fine inside", and Taec is all "Don't film this side" which is burnt; "Just shoot the good side". U think Park Shin Hye not saying a thing while tasting it might be telling?

My love for Park Shin Hye as an actress was mild before this. But since her guesting on 3 Meals, my love and respect for her have shot up 300%. She just seems like this super considerate and grounded person, esp. for sb her age. The 3 regulars are all smitten with her. No wonder they say that variety shows are great for building up celebrity image.

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I really enjoyed Three Meals A Day. That's funny and I love new Episode, Park Shin Hye really love farm. I hope she will make guest appearance again and It will be perfect if Choi Ji Woo also join it :)

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That 1st photo of Seojin is hilarious. I don't remember seeing that look in the show. Now I've to watch out for it when I rematch. :D

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LoL. I love and am super impressed with chajumma cooking. But there really is something with grumpy-pants-complainy-yet-still-will-do-the-task lee seo ji that draws me in.
Additionally LSJ and Na PD bromance is a gold for the variety land. my fave out of all bromances in k-variety land.

But if ever they make a show together -- chajumma and grumpy lee genie-- it woukd just be super awesome. Maybe granpas over flowers with 2 luggage boys but twice the number of halbaes. Its gonna up the difficulty level to the roof, plus it would be more expensive but i think it would be more entertaining... plus i really want soms of my oter fave k-actor halbaes to be travelling like our H4...

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BTW, Ho Joon and Baro got recruited to travel to Palau with Law of the Jungle after their Laos trip. Their bromance is No joke. Seriously.

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yay! Thing vs thing is back! My vote goes to Seojinnie. We're alike with that trying new things/fail dynamic. And the grumpiness. He's prettier though I'm sure lol. They should do a variety show that's 3 Meals a Day meets the bachelor. They can find picky country ahjummas and have to cook for them, and they can compete with flattery, plus other random and unnecessarily difficult tasks. Mama Shin should be in this too since he can cook and build stuff. We can just call it the perfect grown-ass man show. lol

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"They can find picky country ahjummas and have to cook for them, and they can compete with flattery, plus other random and unnecessarily difficult tasks."

If they can find the right people this would be hilarious!

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Thank you for remembering Mama Shin. I stopped watching roommates after that first cast left. He is a babe, but not so competitive, very laid back. He'd win the cooking, but maybe not other tasks. He could hold his own though. Wow.

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I just really want to eat Chajumma's food

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+1 me too !! ^^

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Every time I see Seo Jin with that face from the last picture. The annoyed and daring you to try it face, I think if my dad and want to run and hide.

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I'm voting for Chajumma because I managed to wrote down his stir fry meat recipe and it taste delicious. I probably watch him cook this and that with my jaw permanently on floor & get in his way trying to write down and taking pictures as recipe. Seojinnie probably just shoo me away and ask me to cut down sorghum/equivalent of that for his alone time. I will be so sad. lmao

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Someone forgot to put a tab :P

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Is there ANY place where I can watch/download this show with English subtitle? I've been searching for forever :(

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HottestCollab is subbing the current season.

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you can google myboytaec for season 1

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Are they the only ones who sub? They didn't sub the episodes in season 1 that Taec wasn't in (part of 7 and 8) and I want to watch them :(

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Thank you sooo much!! :D

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How about the Fishing Village? Anyone who sub this?

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dramacool have it, but they just sub eposode 1 and 2. hope they will continue subbing the rest

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Whoa! I had to read it over to make sure I hadn't written it myself as I've been toying with the same thoughts in my head these last few days after obsessing with TMAD and GoF. I was thinking, how cool would it be if NaPD put Chajumma and Seojinnie together for a crazy new format show? Then again I remembered what he said about putting Mingki, Sanchae and Byul together in Jeongseon and he said he'd rather not mix the two shows' elements together. Let's see him change his mind and make this a crazier ratings game for the viewers!

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Hahaha hilarious post as always!!

I love and have missed Thing vs Thing and would love to see more of these kinds of posts if possible!

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maybe make them neighbor in nowhere? with each sidekick? they can still compete without being head to head in one kitchen tehehehehe

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I just laughed seeing Seojinnie's first pic up there. LOL, what happened ? :D

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Oh my been forever since I last comment. Javabeans & Girlfriday + Na PD are geniuses for bring me out of hibernation.

I guess when the the series first started no one had much expectation like... sure cook your own meals in a farm or a far flung fishing village. But coz Na PD is a genius in casting . Else we won't know that Seojinnie and Taec have aptitude for farming or that Chajumma is such an awesome cook and Hae Jin ahjusshi is such an engineer! And Ho-jun is like a little pet himself with the real pets.

And when I saw the oven, I was like NA PD, you want to make Seojinnie bake bread?! And compare them? It was especially hilarious after they apply garlic butter to the bread and Seojin was decorating with herbs and Kwangkyu was like "enough, just... " and Seojinnie was like..." this is MY bread"guess we never expect that he one day be so proud and protective of his produce lol....

A bit sad to know they only lease the farm for a year... would be glad to see them go thru all 4 seasons since they just plant new produce in that field with a heart shape... Taec is so proud mowing the field with that heart and Kwangkyu lounging at that patch of green is just so cute. It will actually be awesome to see the produce grow. Hopefully the new owners will allow them to film there next season or something to check out the produce or just extend the lease...

The animals for both TMAD and TMAD - FV is so adorable... even Jackson the goat lol...

The guests too has been great as well for TMAD 2 with Park Shin Hye... and Ji Sung oppa - cannot wait!

That said I wonder if TMAD - FV will make a return... but it seems Chajumma is so busy with his dramas... that will be nice to see the FV team again... and looking forward to more awesome dishes...

I guess initially I don't get what people mean by healing and all... its like... ok just some guys trying to cook and survive and bickering with Na PD... but after watching a few episodes... I get it, with such a simple premise it seems like they are not doing much at all but yet they have done everything. its just very calming to watch... though it does get a little slow sometimes and lack of subs... but some things are just universal like that... easy enough to understand without subs.

I hope we get to see both TMAD & TMAD - FV back for more... a mash up will be mind blowing!

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I am just stupidly, half-in love with Seo-jinnie at this point - for me, there's no contest.

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what a great post!!! I was laughing throughout. Poor seojinnie i do think he would lose out in a direct battle with chajumma. At least he has his chemistry with ji woo. But v funny exchange here! Especially at the end when we had the imaginary grand battle royale hehehehe

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Hahahahaha! I love Thing vs. Thing and I'd love to see it more often. Maybe a few times a year. I'm sure the readers can suggest things to compare.

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hillarious!!
Myself can't pick between two. Both of them are awesome in their own way.

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Seo jinnie hands down!!! Just love him and his dimples!

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Where can I watch the fishing village with subs? I really can't find any links that are still active anywhere.

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It makes me really want to watch the fishing season but I can’t find them subbed

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That show you described, with Seo-Minnie and Chajumma and sidekicks in tow, would be awesome.

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I like Seo-jin, I seen him complain very lovely, and caring other people

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After finally catching up on the GOF ship on Hulu, I immediately marathoned all 3 seasons. Was pretty sad that the Greece season wasn't available. Then I gobbled the whole season of TMAD. After a whole week of variety with seo-genie, I can say I am flipping in love with his grumpiness, his I'm-so-pretty-and-cool-for-the-camera, his perfectionist OCD ways, AND HIS DIMPLES GAHHHHH HOW CAN A MAN TWICE MY AGE HAS SUCH EFFECT ON ME GOOD GOD

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Truthfully, I prefer Fishing Village concept over the farming concept so I also want to demand another season of Fishing village version. I miss chajumma and his delicious looking food. He always make me feel so hungry.

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I do a search for Fishing Village with English subs every week. Really hope someone picks up that project.

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I've watched Farming one with Seojinnie subbed but where is the Fishing Village one with eng subs?

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Even if Cha Seung-won ask her, would Kim Sun-ah want to appear on the show with Lee Seo-jin considering Lee Seo-jin ditched her BFFE Kim Jung-eun? That would be interesting though!!

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Can we have chajumma on the flowers over grandpa show as a guest and vice versa and cos of their alpha male characters both will interview that each party had it easy...

Then the following season can be chajumma on grandpa over flowers as the luggage boy and seojinni in the fishing village?

I am very curious to know how chajumma will handle travelling with the halbes while seojinnie will no doubt grumble a lot about being in the fishing village.

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hahaha! so true! the difference between cha and seojin. i really curious if na pd put them together. i bet seojin will just gonna sit watching cha do all the work :D

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Best post ever! Love you guys!

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I gobbled the whole season of TMAD.

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