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The Time I’ve Loved You: Episode 11

Awww yeah, these two are definitely where the action isn’t. Get ready for more of the same this hour with some minor variations, though it’s already an improvement over last week since things actually happen… slowly. If there are two constants that can be said of this show, it’s that you always know what they’re selling even if you don’t know what they’re saying, and that Seo-hoo’s still the worst.

This week’s recap delay brought to you by Dramabeans, KCON, and copious meat consumption. Regularly scheduled programming will resume next week.

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EPISODE 11 RECAP

Dae-bok sends Hana a text for her to come back to the house since Seo-hoo’s there, and while Dad would be content to not give him the time of day, Mom lets Seo-hoo say what he’s come to say.

“I’m sorry. This time I won’t disappoint you,” Seo-hoo tells her family before adding, “I will marry Hana.”

They barely get time to react to that bombshell before Hana drags him out of her house. It’s interesting how she caters to him even though she’s upset with him, and him just confronting her on the issue seems to get her to back down. (Seo-hoo: “Did I do something wrong?” Hana: “It’s not something you did wrong, but…”)

She tries telling him that he should’ve consulted her first before bringing up marriage in front of her parents, and Seo-hoo obstinately defends his actions because he’s really going to marry her.

Hana sighs that the problem isn’t whether they get married, and asks him to try considering her position. He asks whether her dragging him out of the house was her “position” before that he’s trying his best, and he’s going to get very angry if she fails to acknowledge that. How dreamy.

Dae-bok texts Won to tell him that Hana dragged Seo-hoo out of the house, and he finds her sitting alone in a nearby park. He debates whether to call her but just texts instead, acting like he doesn’t know what really happened. Hana doesn’t volunteer any extra information.

They continue on that way via text for the rest of the evening, with Hana remaining unaware that Won is the only other human being around.

She goes home to find her parents’ door closed, while Dae-bok offers his two cents on the matter: he’d honestly thought his sister had Dissociative Identity Disorder when she came back from Paris after dating Seo-hoo there.

He admits that seeing her change so much so fast was scary, but seeing her after her breakup with Seo-hoo was worse. Therefore, he can join the club of people who are against her getting back together with that “rabbit jerk.”

Later that night, Hana thinks about how upset her whole family is over Seo-hoo, but remembers how he promised he was trying his best. I guess that’s enough for her.

Hana goes out with Na-young and newlywed friend Jung-mi, who both give her differing opinions on the whole Seo-hoo situation. Jung-mi sees the bright side of Seo-hoo, and thinks that Hana shouldn’t have dragged him away in front of her parents—after all, he was there to talk about marriage.

Na-young is the voice of reason, stating simply that she doesn’t like him after he left for three years, came back, and told Hana’s parents he was going to marry her. Hana’s kind of stuck on the matter herself, and just sighs that she wishes Seo-hoo was more cautious, while Na-young warns that she doubts he’ll ever think before he acts even if he were to come back from the dead.

Brief cut to Hana at work, where she sees a pamphlet for their company’s collaboration with Seo-hoo and texts him: “I know you’re trying. Thank you.”

Won has a needlessly extended scene where he does nothing but teach the newbies how to properly open champagne and wine on flights, and Mi-hyang notes that his enormous one month trip certainly seemed to make him more charismatic.

The president of Seo-hoo’s Big Bad Agency is arriving soon, which Seo-hoo takes to mean that he should play hard until she gets here, since she’ll take up most of his time.

His manager sighs that the only reason why Seo-hoo doesn’t want to be busy is because of Hana, and uses her name to double as the number one (since hana means one) when he says sarcastic things like: “Of course. It’s really important to never lose the one.”

Hana runs into Won while getting some snacks for her mom, and Won figures that she and Seo-hoo must’ve had a fight if she’s alone. After a lot of small talk, Won finally works up the courage to ask how she’s been, which Hana calls out as a necessary question that came pretty belatedly in their conversation.

Still, she says she’s doing well at work and with Seo-hoo. When Won asks if she’s bragging that her relationship is going well, Hana claims to know that what he really wanted to ask was whether Seo-hoo is giving her a hard time.

“I’m telling you now that I’m fine and everything’s going well,” she adds, a bit too emphatically. As if to prove she’s trying to convince herself more than Won, Won stops walking with her just to watch her instead, and she fails to notice.

Hana brings her loot home to Mom that evening, and only after an unrelated apology does her mother note that Hana has had a lot to be sorry for lately. “Then what should I do? I like him,” Hana says.

Mom isn’t happy about it, which prompts Hana to ask why she hasn’t said they can’t ever date. And that’s because Mom knows that saying something like that would change nothing—besides, she knows how stubborn her daughter is, and if it was something Hana would give up just because she said so, she wouldn’t have done it in the first place.

But, she warns her daughter, falling in the same place twice (so, breaking up with Seo-hoo again) would be pathetic. Hana doesn’t seem to register any of the risks, and instead asks how Dad’s been taking things.

After another quick cut to Won at work, this time preparing a bus that’ll give food to the needy on behalf of their airline, we cut back to Hana meeting Seo-hoo at his new apartment.

He claims he got it because she wasn’t comfortable at the hotel, causing Hana to remark, “You really are the same.” She flashes back to a similar situation when he’d gotten a new apartment and gave her the keys on a sparkling rabbit keychain.

“This is where I’ll be living now, and where you’ll be,” he’d said with a smile. Hana blinked before asking if she was being proposed to just like that, and he pulled her into an embrace by way of answer. In the present, he shows her a closet he’s also stocked with purses and shoes just for her.

Won’s airline hosts an outdoor event giving out free food and even haircuts to country ajummas, which Won jokingly claims to know how to do because of his time in the army.

So-eun earns points with the ladies by speaking in their dialect, and actually manages to grab Won’s attention without meaning to this time.

Hana and Seo-hoo go on a sponsored trip to a fine sunglasses boutique, where she helps him pick out the perfect pair. He seems visibly shaken by a call he pointedly ignores—must be the president from his Big Bad Agency.

She tries on his pair and he goes back to being normal (or his version of it), as he looks her in the eye and tells her, “Have I told you that I like you because you’re pretty?”

Things get a bit awkward in the car when Hana tells funny stories about her friends only for Seo-hoo to dryly remark that he can’t find her anecdotes funny unless he knows the people she’s talking about. But then he gets a call from President Min of his Big Bad Agency, which cuts the date short.

Manager Yoon meets with Director Byun to talk about options should the benefit concert be postponed (no one mentions that it was outright cancelled before), before checking in with Hana. He tells her that Seo-hoo’s agency president is coming into town, and that he didn’t tell her because hd didn’t want to concern her.

But he’s telling her now because there could be problems with the collaboration because of it. Hana calls Seo-hoo without luck, and only starts putting the pieces together when she remembers how strange he’d been acting around his phone lately.

Mi-hyang’s autograph from Teacher Park included an invite for a date, so she gets all spruced up just to go to a little restaurant that serves messy gamjatang, or pork bone soup.

Teacher Park is much more nonchalant about the date than she is, though he wants them to meet often like this for food and tea. He doesn’t really respond to Mi-hyang playing coy—after all, they’re past the age for that, aren’t they?

Hana happens upon Won at their nearby corner store and sits down for a beer with him, though she keeps the talk to work and not personal affairs.

After telling him that she got the Jumei project back at work, he tells her that their newlywed buddy Chang-soo missed his honeymoon flight. I’m guessing the small talk is because they don’t want to address the elephant in the room.

Dad is your typical dad when he doesn’t address the topic that’s been putting distance between him and his daughter, instead acting like nothing happened at breakfast the next morning.

Seo-hoo picks President Min up from the airport, and seems visibly uncomfortable when his boss slips her arm into his and suggests he take her sightseeing. Won’s brows furrow when he sees the two of them getting into a car together.

Seo-hoo unenthusiastically asks if President Min has come into town just to stop him from doing what he wants to do. “Do what you want to do,” she says with an easy smile, “except for what I say you can’t do.”

Reminding him that he wouldn’t be anything without her, she tells him that he’ll be leaving in a few weeks for a schedule in Venice that’ll take two years. He tells her he has no plans on leaving Korea, and picks up on her not-so-veiled threat that she’ll leave Hana’s company alone… for now. She knows that he’s dating, and probably knows that Hana’s working on his collaboration.

While Mi-hyang blames Won for making it difficult for her to accept a date with Teacher Park (now that she knows Seo-hoo was his apprentice), Won gets schooled by one of the Three Stooges for being too cold to So-eun at work.

Assistant Hong tells Dae-bok that there was a scandalous relationship between President Min and Seo-hoo, before pouting that he only ever wants to hear about Seo-hoo, and not about her.

To soothe her worries, Dae-bok kisses her on the cheek and then on the lips. I know, I know—he was born in 1989, but he still looks indecently young next to her.

Hana finally asks Seo-hoo if there’s something going on with his agency, and he responds that it’s just normal stuff, like contract issues. When she asks if he’s really okay, he jokingly asks if she’s worried about him or the collaboration project before assuring her that there’s no reason to worry.

Seo-hoo finally gets to meet Hana’s two girlfriends like he wanted to, resulting in an awkwardly stilted dinner. Both girls become visibly uncomfortable when Seo-hoo grabs Hana’s hand and holds it under the table on his thigh, and if he picks up on it, he doesn’t do anything about it.

He manages to say somethings that win Jung-mi over, like how he never got to meet them initially because he was in and out of Korea, and wasn’t able to meet them recently because he was too busy dating Hana. Na-young mutters under her breath, “Then why didn’t he show up for three years…”

Hana wants to avoid that question, and Seo-hoo kind of does and doesn’t by saying he had “circumstances” which prevented him from coming the past three years. “That’s why I’m being careful right now,” he claims. “I won’t make the same mistake twice.”

Her friends are under the impression that Won isn’t at the dinner because of work, when in reality he’s lying alone on a park bench brooding. When the subject of him having met Won is brought up at dinner, Seo-hoo comments on Hana and Won’s closeness in a way that says he isn’t really a fan.

Then he drops the same bombshell on her friends as he did with her parents: “Even if I marry Hana, they’ll still be close, right?” There’s silence between Hana and Won on the car ride home until she tells him they should talk.

Won switches to brooding at home, where Mi-hyang confronts him over Hana dating Seo-hoo again—what else would explain his mood lately? When she finds out for sure, she chastises Won for his terrible, terrible timing and mentions that the last time she ended up this distressed about him and Hana was when Hana first started dating Seo-hoo.

But through her complaints, Won is able to figure out that she’s pining over someone and asks if she’s in a relationship. “I was thinking about it, why?” she barks defensively. She’ll have no more talk on the subject, since she’s embarrassed as is.

Hana and Seo-hoo go for a very slow walk to discuss their problems, most notably with Hana wondering why they keep getting into uncomfortable situations when they just got back together. Seo-hoo: “We got back together and I said I want to marry you. What’s the problem?”

She tries to placate him by saying that whatever the reason for his three year absence, she’s back with him and trying her best. He doesn’t like the word “trying,” even though she puts it in the context of her trying to forget the past and think only about loving him.

What he wants to know is if she’s acting this way because of Won, which seems to come out of left field. She doesn’t understand what Won has to do with their problems, causing Seo-hoo to angrily wonder why she hasn’t asked why he was gone for three years. Why haven’t you just told her?

“What difference would it make if I knew that? I thought if we met again then our past has to be forgotten, because it will hurt us if we bring it up,” Hana returns, once again proving that she’s not the brightest crayon in the box. “I’m trying to say nothing happened before and forget about it.”

But he can never forget that she was crying in Won’s eyes that day, and even smiling at him despite the pain he caused. Tears spring to his black shark eyes as he adds, “When I said I wouldn’t make the same mistake twice, I meant I won’t lose you ever again. Whether it’s because of Choi Won or not.”

There must only be one road to get to everything around their houses, since Won bumps into Hana brooding on a park bench on his way home. He knows she’s upset about something, and thinks back to Seo-hoo getting in the car with President Min. Is this going to be another case where he sees something suspicious he should report to her but doesn’t?

He asks her what’s going on, because he can tell something’s wrong by looking at her face. She insists it’s nothing still, and it’s because she knows their relationship is one where they can just look at each other and know, she doesn’t want to discuss things further.

But Won stops her by the wrist and tells her as comfortingly as possible, “Oh Hana, I told you I’ll be your friend. Didn’t I tell you that I’d be on your side?” Hana: “I know. That’s why, because you know too much… because you know everything… I can’t say anything to you. Our relationship now has to be that way.” She pulls herself free from his grasp, and leaves.

Hana runs into President Min at work the next day, and the tension between the two turns weirdly confrontational when Min compliments(?) her on her work with Seo-hoo’s project. Alone. “Please take good care of our Seo-hoo,” she says with a manufactured smile.

Won’s thoughts drift toward what Hana said last night while someone else conveniently spouts all the wonderful features of their aircraft, and he gets the same housewarming invitation for the newlywed couple as Hana.

But Hana encounters more gossip at work, this time about the scandals Seo-hoo had with his sponsor/President Min while overseas. It doesn’t ease Hana’s worries when she calls Seo-hoo and receives no answer, or when Assistant Hong notices that Seo-hoo’s not coming around the office the way he used to.

Hana and Won both end up buying toilet paper as a housewarming gift for Chang-soo and Jung-mi without knowing it, and are accused of doing their gifting in a “buy one, get one free” sort of way. Besides, toilet paper is considered a good housewarming gift since it’s said to bring luck and long life to the couple.

The old friends talk about Won’s last serious girlfriend in college, though Hana denies their claims that she hated that girl. But then they figure out that Hana’s trip to Paris—and her subsequent relationship with Seo-hoo—happened because she moved the dates to take graduation pictures with Won.

Na-young’s all, “So you met Seo-hoo because of Won?” She also notes that their destiny must be really off-kilter if they were meant to be lovers, which Won awkwardly laughs off.

Later, when Hana comments on how the two newlyweds just act like best friends because that’s what they were first, Won mentions that their relationship is nothing to sniff at either. “Don’t you think our relationship is something great? After all this time, what don’t we know about each other?”

Even she acknowledges that they know everything about each other, which is exactly his point. He doesn’t want her claiming she can’t tell him something and that that’s how their relationship has to be.

“Let’s not get to where we can’t even be friends,” Won says with a smile. “Let’s go back… to that place where we had fun and were happy.”

 
COMMENTS

Does he mean their super secret rooftop? I’d say that they haven’t gone there since Won’s hotly contested confession, but that’d mean that whatever he said to Hana in that park was a confession, and that people cared enough to hotly contest it. I don’t think either of those things happened. Some words were said, verbs were included, and both of them left that conversation more confused than when they started it.

But then Won’s magical one month trip happened, which seems like such a bizarre span of time to use when he’d just decided against a two year overseas training opportunity for Hana. He’d plainly told her that their relationship wouldn’t be the same if she dated someone else, only to come back a whole thirty days later and say instead that nope, everything was going to stay the same—he’s always going to be her friend, and he’ll always be on her side.

Even though Won is about as cryptic as everyone else is in this show about their true feelings, I alternated between feeling sorry for him and being angry at him for his inaction this episode, which I guess is a step up from feeling nothing when he got five whole minutes of screen time last week. I can understand shifting the focus to Seo-hoo as a romantic rival if it was meant to highlight Won as being that much better for her, but instead this whole ordeal is making Hana look worse and Won look almost simple with his inability to just say something.

So it’s something of a step forward that he did finally say something at the end, even though all his confrontations with Hana are probably a lot less direct than she actually needs right now. He’s a lot less direct than she actually needs right now, which is where I can kiiiiind of see where Seo-hoo wins her over by being creepily confrontational even if that doesn’t make him any more honest. But at the same time, if Hana’s so wooed by being ordered around and controlled, why are we even wasting our breath here?

It bothers me that Won sees the forest for the trees when it comes to Hana and Seo-hoo but says nothing, since this’ll mark the second time (that we know of) where he’s seen Seo-hoo engage in suspicious behavior with other women without telling Hana about it. I get where he might not want to interfere with her relationship and otherwise influence her decision-making at all, to an almost detrimental degree—… wait. Y’know what, I don’t think I get him after all. Or Seo-hoo. Or Hana.

On second thought, especially Hana. If history exists for us to learn from our mistakes, then it’s not something to forget. Forget throwing us a bone, I think it’s more important that she throw herself one first.

 
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I don't know why I still continue to watch this show. Makes me go bald... Or make their characters go bald instead. Yep. I think the latter is better. When is she going to wake up!? When will the characters learn to speak what they really, think, feel, or what they have seen!? Good grief!!!

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You still watch this show?! All I do is scroll down, look at the screen shots and know what's going on. It takes only 20 seconds of your life.

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I totally agree. It takes me 5 seconds LOL

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I'm with you ... even though the recaps are well-written, the show is such a frustrating exercise in inaction and indecision, that I look at the pretty pictures and move on.

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I spend a lot more time reading the comments here than actually watching the show. Oh.. wait.. I have not watched since EP4.

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haha, me too! oh my God. but i keep downloading every new episode but.. havent watched any since last week. :)

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I wana love this show but.....errrrg! ?

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Ah, poor HeadsNo2, hwaiting!

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Didn't HeadsNo2 stuck with some crappy drama(s) in past too and all of us giving her/him pat-in-back comments?

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Big thanks Heads for writing this!

I really thought you did stop recapping it...which is a bummer for me because I like this drama.There is also a fun and enlightening discussion in Soompi's TTWWNIL thread that helps me understand it better.

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Couldn't take it anymore. Stopped at Ep 6.

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I was so worried you will stop the recapping due to all those negative comments... thank u for not giving up!

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I didn't even read the whole recap cause I already know what is happening by seeing the screen shots.

I hope DB will recap Yong Pal. Episode 1 was so good, I feel like I just watched a movie.

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Thanks Heads! Poor you... my commiserations once again.

I admit I cannot bring myself to watch, and so I read enough to know that nothing is happening... LOL! Thank you for giving us a fun read and good laughs. At least this show is good for that.

I repeat that I feel bad for the actors... nothing they can do to save themselves even when they are in a train they can probably tell will be a wreck. :( :)

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The only good thing about this show is the OST.

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IMO, the main characters sister's and brother's budding romances are MUCH more compelling than the main romantic story line. That romance is just an aggravating snoozefest.

PRODUCT PLACEMENT : Apparently TANDY is a corporate sponsor for this drama. This means that TANDY has paid a lot of money to have their products and corporate logo prominently shown throughout the drama. Hana just happens to work for TANDY and we consequently see the corporate logo everywhere. It is especially visible on her desk where is almost billboard sized. Or maybe large nameplate sized. Hana is an uber hard working, dedicated employee. She goes the extra mile to do an excellent job. This and her love for her family are her most admirable traits. However, TANDY constantly provides conflict in her life. Her co-workers and upper management constantly undermine her via backbiting, nepotism and other non-professional practices. They actually seem to be trying to impede her forward progress. What is the message that TANDY wants the watcher to see? Is it "TANDY the company that punishes hard working employees, buy our products"? I am so confused, maybe you have to be a Korean consumer to understand. Why would you pay money to have your company portrayed is such a negative light?

W A R N I N G : You are now entering a heavy SARCASIM ZONE!

I do have a theory that follows the drama's story line. TANDY wants to be the BAD BOY company (i.e. Seo-hoo) and not the GOOD GUY company (i.e. Won). By taking for granted and abusing their employees (i.e. Hana) they are showing their BAD BOY side. Everyone knows that "consumers" love BAD BOYS. GOOD GUYS are boring. They are considerate, sacrificing, loyal, dependable, loving and faithful. Nothing of any true value. It is obvious that TANDY has decided to project that BAD BOY image using this drama. They must be marketing geniuses?

Maybe this is just a cultural thing? I still have issues with the ending of "Secret Garden". Ra-im gave her mother-in-law THREE beautiful grandkids (two boys and a girl). This is supposed to be almost every Korean mothers' dream, numerous GRANDKIDS! She should have been elevated to sainthood, but instead she was still a pariah. Go figure.

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Tbh, I think pretty much all of Secret Garden was majorly messed up, not just its ending.

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LOL! Interesting take on the PPL. Now that you mention it, I wonder if their marketing people know what's happening on the show.

The TANDY shoes are displayed beautifullyy and look nice but do they think that our seeing how Ha Na suffers when wearing them and takes them off when she can, is conducive to good marketing?! LOL.

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I'm so used to US shows creating fake companies that I keep forgetting that TANDY is a REAL company. Hana is ALWAYS rubbing her feet/legs and if she's not in heels, she's in sneakers. Does Tandy not make a comfortable flat or a ballet slipper? Is black running shoes your only option for funeral foot attire?

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That thought about Tandy crossed my mind also. Why would they pay so much for massive PPL, and then make everyone that works at the company look like total incompetent malicious idiots?

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I confess I'm just recap writing for fun of seeing this drama get worse and worse.

"“I will marry Hana.” ..... He is such a controlling guy, uhhh. It's all about him, what he wants – without realising that marriage is about what TWO people want. Well, if you marry her, you'll end up divorcing.

"causing Hana to remark, “You really are the same.”" Wow, she even realises it and still continues on with him. He hasn't changed! He won't change! Honestly, I kind of want her to marry the guy and be in misery since she really doesn't learn. I mean, all your family and pretty much all your friends – whom you normally get along with and trust in their judgement – are telling you it's not a good idea to date this guy, and yet you insist. Girl, sometimes when everyone has another opinion than you, it's because YOU are the one that's wrong....

Won should just move on with his life. (Not that I feel particularly sympathetic towards him either.)

"Na-young’s all, “So you met Seo-hoo because of Won?” "

Ughhh. I hate stupid, twisted lines like this. I guess some of Hana's friends aren't particularly bright crayons in the box either...

"After all this time, what don’t we know about each other?"

Surprisingly, there's quite a lot they don't know about each other. Sorry, but they are really not as good friends as they think they are, most of all because they fail to be honest with each other. Really can't cheer for this couple.

Heads2No, HWAITING!!!

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I gave up this series 2 episodes ago.

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This drama is so frustrating- when it could be at least like 9end 2outs - similar story but more enjoyable. I wonder if there is problem with casting - they are too perfect? Wish female lead is more of faulty, pointy character, and male lead is more timid kind. Then again with this writing, no one could make it. Anyway best thing about this show is Head's recap. Thanks for the recap!

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I don't know what's happening with this drama or whether something is actually happening.. So frustrating. Such a waste for everything. Ha Ji Won is the only the reason that I'm still holding on. Hoooo.

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Must. Stop. Watching. This. Horrible. Drama. . . . . . But. Won. Is. Too. Handsome. To. Abandon. UGH!

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LOL!

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I'm still watching it though... I don't know why.. hahahaha
thanks for the recap! ^_^

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Aw.... HeadsNo2 must be really pissed.... I feel bad that she has to receive a lot of negative comment... 언니 화이팅 하새유!! :)

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I don't think anyone is negative about Heads at all. If anything, she is admired for perseverance against the overwhelming odds that this show is just not going to get better.

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yups! i admire her for being 'tough' with this show. it's not easy to write/recap something that getting odd in every single episode. sigh. especially if we already lose our 'desire' to write. she's one of a kind. salute!

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Huh? I dropped the show a long time ago and skimmed the recaps last week, but Piano Boy STILL has not told her why he was gone for 3 years? That is... incredible.

I'm curious see if the sales of the PPL products goes UP or DOWN, since the products are now associated in the watchers' minds with extreme annoyance and frustration.

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Watching this show really makes me miss the no-nonsense gil ra im but then again thats a different drama all together! Ra im would probably step into this drama and give hana a piece of her mind

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Thanks for the recap, HeadsNo2! Like others, I feared that you had stopped because it was too horrible to go on. I dropped this drama after episode 5, but for some reason cannot stop being interested in what happens. So I am really grateful for your recaps! You are a trooper.

I would love to know what caused the writer switch and what the new writer has done before this drama. Although I don't thing the first 5 episodes were brilliant by any stretch of the imagination, they were far superior to the unwatchable driv

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Oops...

Drivel that has come since the switch. Why hasn't this new writer, who has assassinated all his/her own characters, been replaced?

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I know I am in the minority, but I can't hate Seo Hoo (lingering Pinnochio feels). And the longer this drama airs, I can say that I don't/do like him any less as Won. Let's be honest, both have major character faults. But I can't blame Ha Na for going back to Seo Hoo. He is the only one that actually professes his love for our lead. As possessive as his love is, at least he voices his feelings. Won told Ha Na early and consistently that they could not be together (with whatever non-expressed reason). And if you really want to be honest, Ha Na's and Won's friendship has never been healthy for their significant others. Seo Hoo has always been jealous of their relationship, and probably could not understand why he could never get as close to Ha Na. While that is an extremely sorry excuse for leaving your fiancé with no explanations, he certainly did not want to be the third person in his own relationship.

While I will finish watching this this show, it will be quickly forgotten.

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Before I reply to your comment, I would like to make sure that HeadsNo2 gets the RECOGNITION and PRAISE she deserves for the EXCELLENT JOB she has done recapping this drama. I appreciate your hard work and look forward to your future posts.

I understand your point completely actions are so overrated, words hold all the power. For example, an new born baby has no idea that it is loved by it's mother becuase he/she can not understand her words. The multitude of daily selfless actions that she performs have absolutely no effect on the child. It is not until that child learns to understand language and hears his mother say that she loves he/she that the child knows it is truely loved. Until a person is told, with words, how another person feels there is no way to non-verbally communicate. To confess your love with words, but maintain a consistant pattern of inconsiderate selfish behavior is a true love. However, to silently support a person with a multitude of selfless actions has no real worth and can hardly be considered love. Unfortunately, there are so many parents, siblings, friends and lovers that have not yet learn the real truth. Words count not actions, or maybe if you pay attention to what is said and then done you truly know in your heart if you are loved. No, strike the second part of the last sentence it is just too radical an idea.

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<To confess your love with words, but maintain a consistant pattern of inconsiderate selfish behavior is a true love

??? So, by your argument as long as someone says "I love you" clearly and repeatedly but beats you up, cheats on you, etc. it's "true love"? Seriously or am I misunderstanding you here?

I think both words and actions count.

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SARCASIM from Merriam-Webster Dictionary "the use of words that mean the opposite of what you really want to say especially in order to insult someone, to show irritation, or to be funny" NOTE : I was trying to be funny.

My writing skills are poor in comparison to HeadsNo2. However, I has ASSUMED that my use of SARCASIM was well enough written to be understood. I was wrong. A new born child only knows actions, having no understanding of words. The true love that develops between them is based solely on the mother's actions. Using a special word like "love" and not supporting it by actions gives it no real weight. Love is an action word. If used selfishly it can even become as offensive as some other four letter words. So there is no misunderstanding : Seo-hoo only truly loves himself. Won truly loves Hana and also her family. I believe he loves her family almost as much as he loves her. If she actively chased him with 1% of the enthusiam that she chased her other boyfriends, they would be married with three kids living the Korean dream. Won has only been able to fool her because he has never been put to the test.

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Sarcasm doesn't translate too well on the net.

Crystal's point definitely had some validity but I guess because you responded sarcastically you disagreed entirely with her?

No harm done.

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Sarcasm is a literary device and is appropriate where ever words are written or spoken. It is good that you see the validity in Crystal's point. I am sure she take great comfort in that. Everyone's option has merit in a free exchange of ideas. I look forward to your future comments. However, I am a bit embarrassed to have misspelled sarcasm several times. You live, you learn, you grow...

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@aranea: You maybe a lovely person outside, but man, do you come off totally condescending in your comments. And before you throw the definition of "condescending" at me, I do know what it means and yes, that's what I get from your words...unless you meant to come off this way then congrats! Job well done!

@alua & Crystal: I also see the validity of Crystal's points mainly because if it was someone else, I would have given them the benefit of the doubt but so far, my opinion on Hana is that she's a stupid woman. Thus, I can totally see why she would come back to Seo Hoo based on Crystal's comments that he's "winning" over Won simply because he's straightforward enough with what he wants and communicate that to her. She, obtuse silly woman that she is, only has enough intelligence to grasp what's clearly stated in front of her.

With that said, I don't think Won is a better candidate for Hana either since even though he clearly cares for her, he also has no trust in her ability to make SOUND judgement by herself which ok to be fair, Hana hasn't really demonstrate that she's capable of that except for in the early ep where she went to the wedding of her ex to talk to the bride.

I was so looking forward to this drama cause of Jin Wook pretty but man, it's the first time where I'm seriously #teamnoone.

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I am not saying actions don’t matter, but they need to be used in tandem with words. People are not mind readers. If you want someone to know something you need to say it. Clearly Ha Na and Won do not speak the same “love language”. If they did, they would not have taken a trip on this 17 year merry-go-round. Neither of the two male characters offer a good option for Ha Na, nor she for them. Won’s character is just as bad as Seo Hoo in opposite ways. I would rather Ha Na take her own sabbatical, grow up and figure out what she needs and wants. But this is a work of fiction and we will arrive to whatever misguided destination the writers have decided.

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I was watching this video about 500 Days of Summer the other day, which gave a great inside of the movie's overall theme of romcom..
Then this drama come to my mind and thought to myself, could it be that we are seeing the releatshinhip from one side of the coin..

Watch it if you have seen the movie 500 Days of Summer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yG4rGP7X-o

ps.. by the way I dropped this drama after 6ep.. :)

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damm why can't I edit in dramabean comments hahah

I meant relationship... sorry..

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Heads, I gave up this drama since episodes ago, but I want to cheer you on and will continue reading your recaps!
Your recaps are far more entertaining than the drama itself! Even not watching this, I got frustrated by the characters.. Can't imagine how the actors could keep acting in this horrible, annoying show.

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me when a new episode of this show comes out: *exhale*, "hmmm, should I bother?"

me when a new Heads recap of this show comes out: *skips merrily off to read*, "oh, GOODY!"

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Yup the recap and comments are much better than the show.

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I wanna grab someone hair!! Whether its Hana, Won or Seo-hoo. It'll make me feel better.

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Owww, thanx for the recap, Heads!

Weekend getaway with goodfriends, meat and drinks are highly needed prior to recapping this drama. So, how many more to go? I'll put the champange in the chiller for the last ep.. ^^

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Seo-hoo:
Seo-hoo was the one who didn't come to the engagement party, but why does he still have the feeling that he's right to be angry and put the blame on Ha-na? That's really confused me.

Oh Ha-na:
She stops Seo-hoo when he tries to explain why he didn't show up at the party. Duh Girl for the whole 3 years and 10 episodes, you have been trying to find the explaination for why he didn't show up and that has haunted you ever since. I don't understand that and why does she have to bring 3 bags, THREE separate bags, every time she goes to work?

Choi Won:
He confesses in front of his friend burial, NOW he can continue to go on his life and not to feel sorry for him to love Hana and will tell that to Hana. Oh Boy, I think you have done that, confessing to Hana, in 3 - 2 episodes ago, before your 1 month trip? Writer-nim, I think you have retrogate amnesia.

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<but why does he still have the feeling that he’s right to be angry and put the blame on Ha-na?

He's a classically emotionally abusive person. Controlling and able to twist everything to be Hana's fault as a way to make her feel guilty (and control her). Well, maybe he's not totally a classic abuser, since normally these people manage to charm others – but Hana's family and friends are all onto him.

<why does she have to bring 3 bags

Hahaha... I guess you're picking this up from actually watching, because I didn't realise that. But... shhhh... I actually do that. Backpack (computer, lunch etc), camera bag and shoulder bag (for my wallet & stuff). But I'm guessing Hana has "alternative" bags, rather than bags with different functions?

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I kind of undertand if she brings backpack, with let say shoulder bag and a clutch or a backpack, a tote, and a shoulder bag, or put her in situation as a student (yeah that time when you have to bring Everything) or a traveller. It is kind of make sense, I do that to. But two shoulder bags, and a clutch, or a sling bag, a hand bag, and and a clutch, it makes her like a sale manager who is desperate to sell her bags. If she can wear two pair of shoes at one time, I bet the director nim would have made her done that.

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I'm still watching this drama and I don't really know why. Perhaps I'm a masochist!

This episode is the worst of Hana thus far. OMG! How can she be this stupid and frustrating? Her acceptance of how Seo-hoo treats her got on my nerve. And she can still say to Mom that it's because she likes him. She's like those abused wives who refuse to leave their husbands. Even I can understand the abused wives behaviour because they might be dependent on their husbands. But I Cannot comprehend Hana at all!!!

As for Seo-hoo, the more I see him, the more I dislike him. Seriously, the smirk on his face, the tears in his eyes, I just cannot find an iota of sympathy for him. I'm beginning to hate the actor even though I liked him in Pinnochio.

I also cringe during his scenes with Hana because I find the actor so unnatural and uncomfortable with HJW. It has improved marginally in recent episodes but I'm not convinced of why Hana liked him so much based on how uncomfortable he is with her. Finally, the part that he always stooped down to Hana's level because he is so tall reminds of the scenes in Secret Garden where Hyun Bin did the same to HJW. But the chemistry between HB and HJW was so great that it was no comparison. In fact, I cringed further when I see Seo-hoo doing this to Hana.

Sorry just had to rant.

Really thanks to HeadsNo2. I read your recaps faithfully because I just want to know if I'm unfair in my frustration with the drama. Glad to know I'm not the only one.

I love both HJW and LJW. I guess that's why I'm still watching it.

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<She’s like those abused wives who refuse to leave their husbands. Even I can understand the abused wives behaviour because they might be dependent on their husbands. But I Cannot comprehend Hana at all!!!

The huge difference between Hana and abused spouses is that she had a three year break from Seo-hoo – lots of time to disentangle herself from an unhealthy relationship. AND she had and has lots of support of multiple people (they all know! she isn't secretly suffering here, though she might pretend all is fine and dandy!). Nor is she even living with the guy (yet), but at home, out of his sphere of control. I have every sympathy for abused spouses, but just about none for Hana...

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I'm still struggling to watch this drama though it made me feel like I swallowed the poison food, especially these few episodes. Anyway, since I already started, I will crawl to the end. 4 episodes left, soon it will be over.

To be fair, TW version was more frustrated & super draggy. K-version's faster. I watched this show because of Hajiwon, but it's not help.

Hope the writers can make the last 4 episodes to be better.

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I can't believe that this has become the Seo-hoo show. Like, Drama, just stop featuring scenes about him and his stupid agency problems because I don't care! Why is this all of a sudden a workplace drama where our male lead is not even part of it?

One of my favorite things about this show early on was how it focused on only Won and Hana. Their points of view, there introspection, their lives. It gave the show a tone, at least. But now that's all gone in favor of Seo-hoo's "complications." My Lee Jin-wook (who is the only reason I'm still watching) is barely getting screen time, and when he does, he's teaching people how to open a champagen bottle as if it's the hardest thing to do. What the hell.

And as annoying as So-eun was, I feel bad that she is barely a character now. My hope for her was that after accepting that Won didn't like her, she would become his friend and help him sort out his feelings. But the writers are too obsessed with Seo-hoo.

One last bit: At least we know from Dae-bok that Hana wasn't herself in the first relationship with Seo-hoo. Just wished he was written more dynamically, with more personality, and had some chemistry with her. She treats him the way I treat creepy lurkers.

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I find myself watching this drama when I am extremely bored and it seems like nothing could be worse than my boredom. Then I am reminded there is something of that magnitude in existence, namely this show. While it has not reached Doctor Stranger level of bad (yet), it is basically drivel. And the perfect example of terrible life decisions. I paused on a moment when SH and Hana were hugging and thought, It truly has nothing of value to offer.

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I don't know if I would have continued with this drama if I wasn't currently unemployed. When it started, I thought it was so cute but with each passing episode, I constantly check to see how many more episodes before I can stop watching.

Intentional or not but the drama has me liking Seohoo more and more. He hasn't changed. He is who he is and we might not like him but he's probably the only character who isn't flipping and flopping all over the place.
"We're friends forever" "No, we can't be friends" "Friends?" Ack! Enough already.

Seriously, I've been writing alternate scenarios in my head. Won decided to go on his 2 yr training while he was on his monthlong quest hanging out with the airplane cafe mocha girl. Hana dates and marries Seohoo and gets fired from her job. She's a frustrated stay at home wife while Seohoo goes back and forth from blaming her for his career decline and going away for months at a time on tour. He blames her for not having kids and she goes on long walks in plastic house slippers and sees the cutest kid at the park only to look up and see that it's Won and some other lady's kid. She runs up all excited to say hello and he introduces her to his wife "as someone who used to live next door" Meanwhile, Won's cousin decided to have a hot affair with Seohoo's teacher and tossed her career to be a professional groupie where she ends up meeting a younger Kpop star who steals her away and romances her. The End.

By the way, is it just me or does President Min look like Hana? Coincidence or purposely casted that way?

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Hana, she has eyes to see only the outer appearances of men. She probably forgot her brain somewhere to look into the inner sides of them.

Rabbit jerk Hoo, I really hated his eyes. They looked weird for me. Never love his face too, no feeling at all.

Wonnie, you're one of the lead, stop brooding & do something.

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Reading the comments it seems like I'm not the only one who dropped it. It's just so frustrating, the story about SeoHoo and all this 'I cant forgive him bec he's gone for 3 years but I still like him' think is getting too draggy. Seo Hoo's character doesn't fit at all too. I know he's a big part of her life but can we just move on? It couldve been good if they showed him, they why he was gone and that's it. They shouldve focused more on Won's one sided love, why he said before he wouldn't like her, his journey to wooing her, Hana's figuring out of her feelings (what ever happened to the spark after they spent a night together in a room before?!). Maybe this is because of the multiple scriptwriter change?

This could have been a great bestfriends-in-love drama with excellent actors, but it's not living up to expectations.

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I never came into these posts because I dropped the show and I saw a lot of comments and I thought everyone was loving it. Imagine my surprise when I finally clicked and it was full of people who'd dropped it and were as frustrated as I was, lol.

It's just incredibly irritating, I just want to slap some sense into these characters and can Seo-Hoo just be gone?

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I wanted to watch this drama when I first saw it but man oh man just reading the recaps is giving me headaches and makes me constantly cringe. It sounds tooooo all over. Can't even force myself >.<

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I quit this drama episodes ago and just checked in to see if anything major happened

Clearly not
Oh well
I'll probably read the last ep recap

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'shark eyes'
Lol ? ? ?
Damn Ha ji won isn't going to be in another drama anytime soon, she'll stick to movies like Gong yoo, thanks, the time i was bored out of my mind.how do you make Ha ji won boring and annoying? Way to kill Fandoms, Heirs ruined Lee min ho for me and now HJW has joined the club.Luckily i still have Hyun bin though Hyde jekyll and me tried to ruin it.

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I quote a knetizens comment "The Time It Gave Me Cancer" is what this drama is.

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I am not saying actions don't matter, but they need to be used in tandem with words. People are not mind readers. If you want someone to know something you need to say it. Clearly Ha Na and Won do not speak the same "love language". If they did, they would not have taken a trip on this 17 year merry-go-round. Neither of the two male characters offer a good option for Ha Na, nor she for them. Won's character is just as bad as Seo Hoo in opposite ways. I would rather Ha Na take her own sabbatical, grow up and figure out what she needs and wants. But this is a work of fiction and we will arrive to whatever misguided destination the writers have decided.

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Edit: Did not mean to post twice, but as response to previous comment.

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This show would have been awesome if it just had, oh, I don't know... 5 episodes???

Ep 1: Ha Na is dissed by boyfriend who marries her colleague but becomes stronger for this experience. Won comforts her and makes her feel special. Nice sweet moments that we 'Aww' over.

Ep 2: Ha Na is tricked by L's character and figures it out and shows her intrepid character and abiltiy to be objective in treating him fairly. She demonstrates her independence by bringing/using her own umbrella on a rainy day. Won applauds her and she notes his care and support.

Ep 3: Ha Na asks Won point blank if he likes her and he lies because he is too comfortable with their close friendship and special times. Seo Hoo returns and upsets Won's applecart.

Ep 4: Seo Hoo is less of a jerk and gives Won a run for his money. Ha Na is torn and gives Won a chance to help her decide between the two. If he likes her, she'll dump Seo Hoo. Won disappears to think it through. Ha Na stands firm and does not let Seo Hoo sway her while she waits for Won's answer.

Ep 5: Won finally decides to let go of whatever debt of honor or whatever it is that's keeping him from claiming Ha Na for himself and confesses to her. Seo Hoo is sent packing which makes the music company he works for very happy. Ha Na and Won tell their families which makes everyone else very happy. But most of all, with their sweet wedding, no female 2nd lead syndrome, no other tropes and no delays, we viewers will be sooooo super happy!!!

The people who will not be happy: TANDY marketing dept. :)

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I love Ha Ji Won but the story is so dragging which is such a pity for even a brilliant casts. I can't stand this. Haven't watched episode 11 coz I'm thinking is it worth it. This drama should have ended with 12 episodes.. I'm outta this drama

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I think both men do love Hana in their own way. I mean she's a beautiful, independent and desirable woman. BUT she needs a man who know what he wants. Neither of the males can be counted on for that.

I for one am rooting either way. I like Piano Guy because he can get her ahead in her career, and he's got an exciting lifestyle. I mean seriously, he's a hotshot pianist for crying out loud.

But then I also root for Won because he's needy enough to be very loving and supportive as a partner. Besides he's way hotter. Topping all those sexiest cabin attendant lists worldwide, come on...

As for Hana, I realize she's just like every real woman, who likes shiny things and also, likes the familiarity of an old love ie once adored ex. Better to go with something you know than try out something new, right?

I still watch because funny enough, this is a good show. Nice cinematography and the side characters are fun to watch ie Won's aunt and the Piano Tutor ponytail guy. LOL

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I'm just drifting along with this show. I'm sorta surprised I'm still able to make it through a whole episode. Seo Hoo is frustrating as always. I dislike the scenes with him and Hana. The scenes are so uncomfortable and unlikable.

The pace of this story is super languid.

I like Ha Ji Won and Lee Jin Wook. Good actors. Great chemistry. Boring drama.

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